WEBVTT 00:30.000 --> 00:34.080 and let's call our meeting to order for the Police and Fire Commission for 00:34.080 --> 00:42.400 Monday April 13th, 2026. Roll call. I see that Ed is absent, but he is 00:42.400 --> 00:47.640 excused. All other commissioners are present. Public appearances, comments, 00:47.640 --> 00:55.920 correspondence. Hearing none, we can move on. Chairman's comments, I have nothing 00:55.920 --> 01:01.800 to report this month. So let's take a look then at the previous meeting 01:01.800 --> 01:09.200 minutes. That was the meeting of March 9th. Any corrections there or comments? 01:09.200 --> 01:19.480 Hearing none, is there a motion to accept those minutes? So moved. And is 01:19.480 --> 01:29.320 there a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay, passes. Okay, then it's my 01:29.320 --> 01:35.560 privilege and honor to recognize the anniversaries we have this month. And the 01:35.560 --> 01:40.240 first individual from the Police Department is Lieutenant James Mature with 01:40.240 --> 01:46.360 two years of service. Police support specialist Shelley Heathslip is with 22 01:46.400 --> 01:51.840 years of service. And next door at the fire department, engineer Mike Didier, 33 01:51.840 --> 01:59.280 years of service. And driver David Luft of with four years of service. And as 01:59.280 --> 02:06.040 always, the PFC thanks them for their service to our community. Okay, next item 02:06.040 --> 02:09.560 on the agenda is with the Police Department. And we can first take a look 02:09.560 --> 02:16.000 at the March invoices. And Chief, it looks like you have a new summary there for 02:16.000 --> 02:21.320 us. Oh, okay. Sorry, I didn't see that. But Becky, maybe you want to tell us 02:21.320 --> 02:30.560 about the new summary. I added this summary just to kind of give you a brief 02:30.560 --> 02:37.600 overview of what is all in that packet. Just to kind of give you the highlights. 02:37.600 --> 02:42.880 If you have any questions or comments, let me know so that I can like it. 02:42.880 --> 02:52.960 Yeah, thank you. Very concise. Good job on that. Okay, so is there any questions 02:52.960 --> 03:01.800 commissioners of the March invoices? No, hearing none. Okay, let's then move 03:01.800 --> 03:09.600 along to the police budget for the this is the first quarter January, February and 03:09.600 --> 03:34.440 March. And any questions there? No, okay. Then we can move on to municipal court 03:34.440 --> 03:37.800 statement. I don't believe if I have a municipal court statement in my packet. 03:37.800 --> 03:51.880 Do we have one? Okay. Yep, no problem there. Okay, perfect. And then calls for 03:51.880 --> 04:00.200 service for the month of March. Another busy month, 1238 calls for service. 04:00.680 --> 04:11.560 Commissioners, any questions on calls last month? Very agreeable crowd tonight. 04:14.360 --> 04:20.440 And last but not least is the Wisconsin information based reporting. 04:21.320 --> 04:34.520 Any questions with that? No. Okay, hearing none, then let's move along to the 04:34.520 --> 04:46.280 chief's report for this month. Oh, I apologize for stepping out, but it was important. 04:46.360 --> 04:55.160 Okay. Yeah, I think first up I have we received a thank you card from the food pantry. 04:56.120 --> 05:00.920 And I guess I'll read this to you. It says police department, thank you for your very 05:00.920 --> 05:07.880 generous donation of $1,450 in March to the food pantry incorporated. It is greatly appreciated 05:07.880 --> 05:12.920 by all. We cannot continue to help feed our clients without the wonderful support of donors 05:12.920 --> 05:20.760 like you, the food pantry. Very nice. And was that a an event that you had at the 05:20.760 --> 05:26.840 police department or? It was an event that was kind of county-wide. It had to do with 05:28.120 --> 05:33.800 the Adam Hartwig Memorial for the Ozaki County Sheriff. Okay, very good. 05:33.960 --> 05:57.880 And then the annual report and I guess what I included on here is there's a little bit more 05:58.440 --> 06:06.680 descriptive in this year's report about the record management, the records bureau manager 06:07.320 --> 06:13.080 Tammy and what she does and especially our police support specialists. 06:15.400 --> 06:20.440 Because I guess there is a lot of stuff that they do that really isn't 06:20.920 --> 06:32.440 noticed or I guess captured by all. And honestly with being short officers, we keep pushing 06:32.440 --> 06:37.880 more on them each year. And in fact, that's what's going to happen again this year is there's a 06:37.880 --> 06:53.240 few more duties coming their way. And sworn personnel, page 12, basically we had one officer 06:53.240 --> 07:03.560 resign and then we do have an officer currently in recruit school at WCTC. He finishes up the 07:03.640 --> 07:12.520 beginning of May. And so when he gets back, we've got we're going to have him go through a little 07:12.520 --> 07:17.400 bit more field training. And then with the field training, we're going to do some jobs, 07:17.400 --> 07:23.240 some shadowing. Basically, that's where he's in his own squad and goes to calls and there's 07:23.240 --> 07:29.000 another officer field training officer that goes there and is just kind of there if he needs him. 07:29.480 --> 07:34.680 And after that, then he'll be on his own. So that'll certainly help us out. 07:36.520 --> 07:41.080 And I guess one of the other things I wanted to point out are our citations are down. 07:41.960 --> 07:54.520 And for this year and what I would contribute that to is we had we lost the officer that resigned 07:54.600 --> 08:04.680 in May. And then also we had an officer that was injured in September and was out. 08:05.800 --> 08:14.440 And this was the first year that we moved Detective Lieutenant Herda off the road and he was 08:15.000 --> 08:21.240 just doing detective work. So we have I guess fewer officers out there issuing citations. 08:22.120 --> 08:33.400 Okay. And with that, I don't know if anybody has any questions, comments. There is some some 08:33.400 --> 08:43.080 good information too about the detective bureau and what they've all done. He's been extremely busy 08:44.760 --> 08:50.920 and he essentially he swamped and that's one of the things too we're taking with the records clerks 08:50.920 --> 08:56.360 or the police support specialists. We're going to try and push some of the work 08:58.120 --> 09:01.960 that he has to do, especially with search warrants and whatnot onto them 09:03.880 --> 09:09.000 until we can get some more people. Sure. Commissioner, is any questions on the report? 09:09.560 --> 09:15.240 Who did you say is swamped? Is it Lieutenant Herda? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. 09:15.880 --> 09:22.360 It's a very completely report and it's it's always fun to look back at all the things that 09:22.360 --> 09:28.200 have happened in the past year. It's amazing. Yeah. And to me that I guess sorry to interrupt, 09:28.200 --> 09:33.160 but I guess the two biggest things to for us this year, I think were 09:35.320 --> 09:41.160 reaccreditation, which is always a big deal in getting through that and we passed that with 09:41.240 --> 09:47.800 flying colors and then national night out. And I think that was a tremendous success and 09:50.040 --> 09:55.160 this coming summer, it will be up in Belgium and the sheriff's department will be hosting. 09:55.720 --> 09:58.200 That's typically August, as I recall. Correct. Yes. 10:01.000 --> 10:02.760 Chairman. Yes. Just comment. Yes. 10:02.760 --> 10:08.200 Chief, thank you. Very nice report. Any comments, any additional comments on the CIT training? 10:08.200 --> 10:13.000 I know you called that out in the report this year. I'm a big fan of it. Everybody is getting 10:13.000 --> 10:18.520 trained in it, right? Every one of them. We try and get everybody through. They only do it one 10:18.520 --> 10:25.960 time a year now. Yeah. And so it all depends on on staffing. And but every year we when they 10:25.960 --> 10:33.880 have it, we send at least one person. Okay. Good. Okay. Any other questions or comments? 10:33.880 --> 10:44.040 And I guess with that too, I just like to thank Becky, who did a fantastic job. I guess probably 10:44.040 --> 10:51.160 her biggest thing is staying on top of everybody to get the information she needs for all the 10:51.160 --> 10:58.520 statistics and everything that's in the report. So thank you. Another fine job? Becky. Thanks, Becky. 10:59.320 --> 11:05.080 And anything else to report there, Chief? Nope. That is it. Okay. Good. 11:07.080 --> 11:13.880 Okay. Then I think we can move along to the fire department. And let's first look at EMS 11:13.880 --> 11:19.960 invoices for the month of March. Oh, can I interrupt? I'm sorry. I do have one more thing. Okay. 11:21.160 --> 11:25.320 I guess I just wanted to let you know that it had come up. I think it was last meeting or meeting 11:25.320 --> 11:34.440 before about the fines and municipal court looking at the fines and getting the cities 11:34.440 --> 11:38.200 and villages that participate a little bit more of the revenue from those. 11:39.800 --> 11:47.160 Traffic citations are going up by $10 a citation. And then later this year, I believe 11:47.320 --> 11:55.960 it looks like probably fall. Municipal citations will go up $10, but that has to go through 11:57.320 --> 12:03.720 counsel. Okay. And the traffic citations, when does that take effect? Or has it? 12:05.560 --> 12:08.840 Technically now already. Oh, it has. Yeah. 12:11.560 --> 12:14.520 Anything else, Chief? That's it. Sorry. Okay. No problem. Okay. 12:15.480 --> 12:22.040 Okay. Let's go back then to the fire department. And this is the EMS invoices 12:22.040 --> 12:27.800 for the month of March. And Chief, anything that jumps out at you there? 12:29.000 --> 12:34.600 Not really. I simulate trainer update. This is actually some funding that we'll be able to 12:34.600 --> 12:43.080 utilize some of our fat money for. But essentially we have a exact kind of replica of our cardiac 12:43.080 --> 12:48.120 monitor that we can use for training. But with the new one, we had to update it to the new software. 12:48.120 --> 12:54.440 So it matches the life pack 35 from the 15 that we have. So it's a really useful tool for our guys, 12:54.440 --> 12:59.800 especially with so many new paramedics that we can pull this thing out. It's got a rhythm generator 12:59.800 --> 13:05.320 in it. I mean, you can darn near make it wash your car for you if you want. So it's a really cool 13:05.320 --> 13:06.920 tool that we have access to. 13:11.320 --> 13:14.840 Commissioners, any questions? Okay. 13:17.080 --> 13:21.160 Then let's take a look at fire invoices for the month of March. 13:21.160 --> 13:27.720 Just one small correction here after talking with a finance director. Under operations equipment, 13:27.720 --> 13:32.920 we did buy new particulate hoods, which are kind of the protective hoods that we were 13:32.920 --> 13:37.880 during a structure fire that both provides some thermal protection to the areas not covered by 13:37.880 --> 13:43.320 the mask. And also the new ones prevent some carcinogen exposure with all the potential 13:43.320 --> 13:49.320 cancer causing agents that we're seeing in structure fires. We were able to get a grant from our 13:49.320 --> 13:55.800 municipal insurance provider to cover the cost of half of these. Typically that would occur 13:55.800 --> 14:00.760 within an operations budget. But because we were allocated funding for some turnout gear through 14:00.760 --> 14:06.200 capital that money was moved to a capital project. So it doesn't come out of the operations fund. 14:08.040 --> 14:13.080 Just a question for your chief. The turnout gear. How many people is that 14:14.680 --> 14:19.800 outfit? Oh, so that is just the particulate hoods that got us 40 hoods. 40 of them. 14:19.800 --> 14:26.600 Yep. So that is enough for all of our staff that are trained fire personnel to have one. 14:27.320 --> 14:33.480 We kept the old ones as spares. So once if we go to a fire, we'll collect those from everybody, 14:33.480 --> 14:39.080 we'll launder them to get anything out of them. So debris, particulate, whatever we need. 14:39.800 --> 14:48.600 And then in the interim, we'll use the old ones that we had. So. Okay. Any other questions for the chief? 14:48.600 --> 15:00.600 Okay. Then let's move right along to EMS calls for the month of March. A bunch of them. 15:01.560 --> 15:09.720 Yes, 141 calls. About 12% for the month prior. We've already hit 420 calls for the year 15:10.520 --> 15:17.160 through March. And we continue at a kind of gang neck pace already. You'll see that we are still 15:17.160 --> 15:22.200 going to the town of Belgium, quite frequently. We've reached out to the town of Belgium and the 15:22.200 --> 15:28.840 respective agencies to figure out what the status of that transition is. And we're not getting any 15:28.840 --> 15:33.560 calls back. So at this point, we're just going to continue to operate in the best interest of 15:33.560 --> 15:43.320 the patients until we're told otherwise. And your average response time this month? Yeah, 15:43.560 --> 15:48.520 six minutes and seven seconds. So we're doing really well from that perspective, even when we're 15:48.520 --> 15:57.480 going outside of the area. Right. Any questions, commissioners? 16:01.720 --> 16:08.680 Okay, then let's take a look at. We've got mutual aid here also. Just two mutual 16:08.680 --> 16:13.960 aids for EMS for this month, it looks like. Yeah, those are days that we are short staffed. 16:13.960 --> 16:18.840 We're not able to provide a second ambulance at that time. So we did have two mutual aid 16:18.840 --> 16:23.080 requests. But again, considering where we came from, we'll take it. 16:30.360 --> 16:37.240 And then we can move along to the fire calls for month of March. Fire calls, we continue to be at 16:37.320 --> 16:47.640 a breakneck pace. I just looked before I came here. I finished report 109 today and looked back 16:47.640 --> 16:56.760 last year. We were at, I think, 80 at the same time. So we are moving right along from a call 16:56.760 --> 17:06.200 volume standpoint. But yeah, response time still looked good. About five minutes and 33 seconds 17:06.200 --> 17:14.120 to first arriving unit on scene for those calls. And I did see we had one call for burnt toast, 17:14.120 --> 17:19.480 but we responded in one minute. Yes. Excellent. Excellent. 17:21.720 --> 17:24.440 I'm not going to shame them on. We're not going to name names. 17:24.440 --> 17:28.520 Tons and tons of people watching this at home. 17:28.520 --> 17:29.080 Hey, purview. 17:32.040 --> 17:35.880 Okay. I had to go there to get the good stuff. Any other questions? 17:36.840 --> 17:37.400 On page. 17:40.760 --> 17:43.800 Okay, Chief, then let's hear your report for the month. 17:43.800 --> 17:48.760 Okay. So bringing this up for consideration and possible action this evening, 17:49.560 --> 17:54.680 I did send a memo in advance to hopefully provide some context as to what we're 17:54.680 --> 17:59.240 talking about again. And just to refresh everybody's memory, we did talk about this 18:00.040 --> 18:06.120 late in 2025. But at that time, we decided to kind of table things just to see if we got any 18:06.120 --> 18:11.800 input from the general public, both either to the commission or to myself. And I have not 18:11.800 --> 18:18.040 received anything and to my knowledge, you have not received anything. So at the request of the 18:18.040 --> 18:25.560 city administration, they had asked that we'd bring back the fire inspection fees to be added 18:25.560 --> 18:31.400 to the city fee schedule. Although the fire inspections would begin a little bit sooner, 18:32.200 --> 18:36.520 actually within the next month or two, the fees will not be implemented until the December 18:36.520 --> 18:43.240 property tax bill would be distributed. Again, this is a way to offset some of the costs of a 18:43.320 --> 18:50.200 service that were legally required to provide by the state. These inspections are state mandated 18:50.200 --> 18:56.440 at least once a year without a change to your municipal ordinances, which we were able to do. 18:56.440 --> 19:01.400 And that means we're doing more than 620 inspections throughout the course of the year. In fact, 19:01.400 --> 19:09.880 last year, we did closer to 670 with reinspections. Currently, the full cost of doing fire inspections 19:09.960 --> 19:14.840 is absorbed within the fire department's general budget. So residential taxpayers are effectively 19:14.840 --> 19:22.360 subsidizing the commercial inspection requirement. This proposal at least shifts towards more of a 19:22.360 --> 19:27.720 user-based cost recovery model, placing at least some of the responsibility on those who directly 19:27.720 --> 19:33.080 benefit or are required to receive the service. I know one of the talking points last time that 19:33.080 --> 19:38.920 we discussed were the 2% do fundings and how that partially does cover some of the fire inspection 19:38.920 --> 19:46.600 costs. But just to remind everybody, 2% do's cover a lot of things. From training, fire equipment, 19:46.600 --> 19:52.360 we just talked about the costs of just hoods alone. We just paid an invoice for turnout gear for 19:52.360 --> 19:58.520 a new firefighter, which was like $4,200 just for one set of gear. It also is supposed to cover 19:58.520 --> 20:05.800 public education on top of everything else. So we'll talk about our 2% do audit in just a second. 20:05.800 --> 20:12.120 Part of that was accounting for the 2% do's funding, and it didn't take long to exceed that 20:12.120 --> 20:22.040 threshold. So just to be clear that this fee does not fully offset the cost of the fire inspections 20:22.040 --> 20:27.400 that we're doing. When we're doing fire inspections, we're sending typically two people A to be a 20:27.400 --> 20:35.720 little bit more thorough. B, it is a safety thing for our people. And thirdly, there's another set of 20:35.720 --> 20:43.560 eyes there. When we're out doing inspections, that's typically taking an emergency response 20:43.560 --> 20:50.280 crew off or an ambulance crew off of the streets. Our call volume is at the pace now where there's 20:50.280 --> 20:54.440 days where they can plow through inspections and not get interrupted. But it wasn't very 20:54.440 --> 20:59.400 respectful to the business owners when we would come or set up an appointment and then have to 20:59.400 --> 21:04.520 leave, come back, leave, come back, leave and come back. So we try to at least take them out of the 21:04.520 --> 21:10.040 rotation if we can. Now that's not always a reality with our staffing, but we try to do our 21:10.040 --> 21:16.440 best when it comes to that. When we're looking at these fees, they're generally ranging from 21:18.120 --> 21:24.760 $25 to a few hundred dollars based on the square footage. And I just want to be clear that these 21:24.760 --> 21:30.040 are billed to the property owner or the landlord, not to the individual businesses or the tenants 21:30.120 --> 21:36.280 operating within those areas. I also think the most important thing here is it helps us serve as 21:36.280 --> 21:42.280 a compliance tool. When we're out doing reinspections, sometimes we have to do multiple 21:42.280 --> 21:48.120 reinspections. And this gives us a mechanism to both recuperate some of the costs, but also have 21:48.120 --> 21:57.000 some sort of incentive for the property owner to not or to fix the violations that we found. 21:57.880 --> 22:05.720 So this also included in this proposal has a some level of structure for plan reviews and those 22:05.720 --> 22:09.960 type of things, something that we're not currently compensated for, but again matches other 22:09.960 --> 22:15.240 municipalities. And just finally, this is not something that's new, it might be new to Port 22:15.240 --> 22:20.520 Washington, but is not new to the area. All of our neighboring communities have these structures 22:20.600 --> 22:27.880 in place. I've included their fee schedules associated with their fire inspections in the 22:27.880 --> 22:33.800 packet for you to review. So with that quick summary, I'll take any questions that you have. 22:35.080 --> 22:41.400 So Chief, with the fees, your fees I see are right in line with what Cedarburg or 22:42.200 --> 22:48.120 Grafton-Sockville is charging or Southern Ozaki, it looks like, right? They're pretty much the same 22:48.120 --> 22:55.240 fees that anyone would encounter in the county. Yes. And they're not excessive fees, but it is one 22:55.240 --> 23:00.920 way of trying to recoup some of the time that your department's spending there. Yeah, and I think 23:00.920 --> 23:06.680 is, you know, we see a significant amount of development in this city, particularly on the 23:06.680 --> 23:12.520 north side, that this helps us recuperate a lot of the time that we are going to be spending out 23:13.400 --> 23:19.000 at those sites doing fire inspections and other fire department related acceptance testing and 23:19.000 --> 23:24.040 those type of things. Commissioner, do I have any questions? 23:28.280 --> 23:34.840 Well, I guess my biggest question was that the last time we brought this up, it was brought to 23:34.840 --> 23:41.240 our attention that there's the 2% fee that is paid for by our businesses for the fire prevention, 23:41.240 --> 23:47.640 things like that. And that does not directly go to the fire department itself, but is brought to 23:47.640 --> 23:54.920 the city as a whole. I guess my issue is that we're bringing forth another fee that businesses 23:54.920 --> 24:01.320 are having to pay. And we want, I guess as the PFC, we want to see that it's actually allocated 24:02.440 --> 24:08.840 to the fire department for their time that they're putting forth and not just going to a slush fund 24:08.840 --> 24:16.120 for the city that they can use with whatever they want to. How do we guarantee like, how do we 24:16.120 --> 24:21.720 show that these people are actually paying for something that's specific? Is there a way to be 24:21.720 --> 24:27.240 billed that goes directly to the fire department itself and not to a city slush fund that can be 24:27.240 --> 24:32.200 allocated to whatever the city actually needs it for? I feel like you're bringing in more revenue 24:32.200 --> 24:36.680 for the city and you're not necessarily seeing that revenue being allocated for the fire department. 24:36.680 --> 24:44.200 Is there a way to manipulate the way it gets funded to the fire department? Can it be 24:44.200 --> 24:51.960 invoiced from the fire department? So that would be a better question for the finance director. 24:51.960 --> 24:58.760 And you know, through GGF, I think it's important that that recommendation be carried through with 24:58.760 --> 25:04.040 any action that you guys take. This evening, just to be clear, when we do get our 2% dues, 25:04.120 --> 25:09.480 like we don't get the check directly to the fire department, but we are able to account for some 25:09.480 --> 25:15.400 of that, all of that funding out of the budget we have. So that 2% dues, I just want to make sure 25:15.400 --> 25:20.520 we're not getting ourselves in trouble from that standpoint, like that money is being utilized 25:20.520 --> 25:26.280 by the fire department. But it's not like we're just getting that check over to us if that makes. 25:26.280 --> 25:32.040 That's saying like 2% checked on the thing. I get that, but I feel like you're bringing in more money 25:32.040 --> 25:37.640 for the city. And I would like to see it go to the fire department for what the fire department 25:37.640 --> 25:45.000 is actually doing, not just a general fund for the city that they may or may not give you even more 25:45.000 --> 25:52.200 budget. I mean, I just, that's my biggest concern. Is the police is bringing the fires bringing in 25:52.200 --> 25:57.640 more? They're asking something of our community. And yet we can't say that it's being designated 25:57.640 --> 26:08.520 for what we're paying it for. So I'm not sure. I have to tread lightly here. I understand 26:08.520 --> 26:15.560 your concern with that. And I think, you know, I share similar concerns. I think the best action 26:15.560 --> 26:20.280 for that is, you know, if this is something that we want to proceed with, I know that, you know, 26:20.280 --> 26:25.160 from a finance standpoint, there's concerns with earmarking and those type of things for accounts. 26:26.120 --> 26:32.680 But I do think it's something that, you know, needs to be flushed out a little bit with the GGF 26:32.680 --> 26:37.640 and council. And if we make a motion on this, I think that's something that potentially could 26:37.640 --> 26:46.840 be included in that motion. And Chief, the 2% fee that has very narrow boundaries on what that 26:46.840 --> 26:53.080 can be used for, correct? Yes, yes. The 2% fees, although it's, I mean, it's not narrow, but it's 26:53.080 --> 27:01.320 fire protection equipment apparatus, fire inspections, fire prevention. And then it can go towards 27:01.320 --> 27:10.120 either wages or sorry, like retirement, like WRS or LOSA program. So it's, yeah, it has to be kind 27:10.120 --> 27:18.040 of in those accounts. Okay. And as the chief mentioned, we did talk about this, I believe, 27:18.040 --> 27:22.440 at the December meeting and tabled it at that point, just to see if there were any comments 27:22.440 --> 27:29.000 from the community. And I've not received any comments. And chief, how did we put it out to 27:29.000 --> 27:36.360 the community to bring up comments? This meeting, this meeting, knowing that it was going to be on 27:36.360 --> 27:48.760 the on our minutes, our agenda in the paper, right? And I know, I don't believe it made it in the 27:48.760 --> 27:52.680 paper because there were other things going on at that meeting that were more exciting. 27:54.200 --> 28:00.840 And I know I had somebody today who asked me, like, what our meeting was looking like. And I 28:00.840 --> 28:05.560 mentioned we were readressing this and they're like, I have heard nothing about this. And they 28:05.560 --> 28:11.640 were just kind of like, tell me what's going on. Okay. For our agenda would have been 28:11.800 --> 28:17.480 some correct for them to have looked at to have gone come here to come or, or the 28:19.960 --> 28:26.120 YouTube are our viewers. Yeah. And this scene in back and the member was included in the 28:26.120 --> 28:32.600 agenda packet that was published both for the meeting that we had last year, as well as this 28:32.600 --> 28:38.840 meeting. It was published in both. Yep. Okay. All right. I just want to be very clear how it was 28:39.480 --> 28:46.520 was brought out to the community. Okay. Any other questions, commissioners? 28:48.520 --> 28:56.440 So would someone like to make a motion to advance this fee structure and plan 28:57.640 --> 29:03.960 to the common council for approval? So it has to go from us approving or giving our guests to 29:03.960 --> 29:11.080 common council to finance. So it will go the next step from here. I have already discussed a lot 29:11.080 --> 29:17.480 of this with the city attorney to ensure that there's no potential legal issues related to this. 29:17.480 --> 29:22.440 It would go to GGF and then it would be added to the city's fee schedule, which would have to 29:22.440 --> 29:29.400 be approved by the council. Got it. Correct. Dan, is my chain of events correct there? Yes. 29:34.920 --> 29:42.680 Okay. Well, I don't know how to make the, I mean, I am in agreement that this is something that is not, 29:44.440 --> 29:52.920 it is being done everywhere around us. And I feel like you did the due diligence of researching 29:52.920 --> 29:57.240 and finding all that information and putting it in our packet. I feel like it's legitimate 29:57.320 --> 30:04.600 thing to do. My only concern is I would like to see that it actually goes for something that 30:05.240 --> 30:12.440 is in the fire department, either an increase in your budget for next year. I just, I feel like 30:13.480 --> 30:17.320 you're doing, you're doing things that I feel like you should be getting reimbursed for. 30:17.960 --> 30:22.520 And if they're not able to guarantee that, it seems kind of silly that we're bringing in more 30:22.520 --> 30:27.160 money and making a cost for something that you guys are providing service for, and it's not going 30:27.160 --> 30:33.320 to you. But I don't know how to make a motion. Joe, that's where I need you. 30:35.480 --> 30:39.560 I've talked to the chief about this and a little bit to the city. I think it's kind of deep water 30:39.560 --> 30:43.560 in terms of the way that the budgets are done. I think the best we're going to be able to do 30:43.560 --> 30:49.960 is motion to approve it as that the chief tracked this revenue so that it can be part of the conversation 30:50.040 --> 30:54.760 at budget time. I think that's about as far as we can get. And I'll make that motion. 30:56.040 --> 30:58.440 Okay. Motion to approve. 31:00.360 --> 31:05.320 The chief will be tracking the increase revenue and we ask that that we'll ensure that that's part 31:05.320 --> 31:11.640 of the budget discussion each year. Priest revenue and part of budget discussion. 31:14.360 --> 31:16.760 Okay. So we have a motion. Is there a second to that motion? 31:17.720 --> 31:23.000 I'll second it. Okay. Second. And all in favor of the motion? 31:24.200 --> 31:31.720 Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? For the record opposed. Okay. Okay. Motion passes. 31:35.240 --> 31:40.360 Okay. And you have more to report tonight? Yeah, a couple of things here. I'm moving 31:40.360 --> 31:44.840 into the fire chief's report. Fresh off of our two percent dues audit didn't know that was going 31:44.840 --> 31:50.120 to be such a popular topic tonight. This is something that's done every few years. 31:50.840 --> 31:55.160 It was my first time going through the two percent dues audit process. 31:56.520 --> 32:02.360 We went through with flying colors. Luckily, they were very happy to see some improvements 32:02.360 --> 32:08.920 in our reporting, especially on the training side of things, including lesson plans, those 32:08.920 --> 32:14.600 hours, all of that kind of stuff is important part of that process, ensuring that our folks 32:14.680 --> 32:19.720 are working towards appropriate certifications. You know, some other parts of that, making sure 32:19.720 --> 32:24.920 our fire reports are all done. They're uploaded directly. There's a lot of steps that go through 32:24.920 --> 32:31.320 this process. But everything went well. So yeah, we should be good for the next couple of years 32:31.320 --> 32:37.000 and free to receive those funds when they come from the state. How often does that happen then? 32:37.800 --> 32:44.440 It's kind of a moving target. They send every three to four years. Sometimes it's two. 32:44.440 --> 32:49.880 Sometimes I think it has a lot to do with how your audit went. If that makes sense, I think if 32:49.880 --> 32:54.200 you're on the naughty list, you get audited a little bit more frequently than the other direction. 32:55.480 --> 33:00.920 You just have to provide them a lot of data. Yeah, there was a lot of data that we needed to 33:00.920 --> 33:06.280 provide a lot of different reports that we needed to provide to them. So we went through all of that. 33:06.280 --> 33:10.920 It was a couple hours meeting with DSPS to go through all of that stuff. So but things went 33:10.920 --> 33:18.840 relatively well. Okay, great. All right, next. So I just wanted to outline a process 33:19.960 --> 33:25.560 coming up here for reviewing and approving the updated departmental policies and procedures. 33:25.560 --> 33:27.640 You all know that we've been working on this for a while. 33:29.000 --> 33:34.200 Be draft of at least we're going to build this out into sections. It'll be an administrative 33:34.200 --> 33:40.760 section, work rules section, an operational section. So the administrative section is 33:40.760 --> 33:47.800 largely ready to go, or at least ready for you guys to review. I will be sending that to Jim by 33:47.800 --> 33:55.400 the end of the week to distribute to you all to have some time to digest and read through them. 33:55.400 --> 33:59.960 I didn't think it was fair to drop them in your lap in the packet here and then be like, hey, 34:00.040 --> 34:06.440 on Monday, I'm sure you all had better things to do this weekend than read through probably 50 34:06.440 --> 34:12.600 pages of administrative policy. So hopefully over the next month, you guys can take some time 34:12.600 --> 34:18.040 to digest some of those, and then we can bring them up for approval next month. And then we'll 34:18.040 --> 34:21.880 give you a couple months off, and then we'll bring back the next set and so on and so forth 34:21.880 --> 34:26.680 till we're through the entire book. But I would like to have everything wrapped up before quarter 34:26.680 --> 34:29.480 four of this year, so we have everything in place. 34:30.760 --> 34:35.320 And Chief, these updates, how old is the old manual that you're working off of? 34:36.280 --> 34:40.440 2013. So it's time. Yeah, it's been time. Okay, good. 34:41.800 --> 34:44.920 Yes, I look forward to receiving that. No, you don't, but that's okay. 34:46.840 --> 34:51.720 Last thing on my list is just a quick update on the Public Safety Building project. It is now 34:51.720 --> 34:56.600 at the pace where every time you go there, something is new and different. It's fun to see, 34:56.600 --> 35:02.040 they have finally poured the concrete in the apparatus floor on the fire side, which was a 35:02.040 --> 35:07.960 major milestone for us. You know, they're starting to get to the point where flooring is going in, 35:07.960 --> 35:12.200 tiles going up, drop ceilings are going in, so it really looks like a building on the inside. 35:13.240 --> 35:21.160 We continue to be on track for a June occupancy, probably a PD side a little bit before us, 35:21.160 --> 35:27.480 but everything remains on schedule with hopefully our move in to be scheduled around the end of 35:27.480 --> 35:32.040 July, or at least to be operating out of there by the end of July, because it'll take some time. 35:32.040 --> 35:36.520 We'll get occupancy in June, and then we have to install the furniture and the owner furnished 35:36.520 --> 35:39.800 equipment and all that kind of stuff. So it's going to take some time to do that. 35:40.920 --> 35:44.600 And we can't really be operating out of two places, so we want to make sure everything's up 35:44.600 --> 35:50.680 and operational and functioning before we make the move. So one more fish day at the current. 35:51.560 --> 35:57.640 House. And this could be for either chief, any plans for a public open house? 35:58.760 --> 36:06.120 Yes, we had talked about this. I think we had planned to do that during our open house in October, 36:06.120 --> 36:13.320 where we typically do our combined public safety open house during fire prevention week. So that 36:13.320 --> 36:20.440 was the working plan as of now to do it then. Good. And then everybody should be pretty settled 36:20.440 --> 36:28.760 in everything in there. So. Okay, is there any other business we need to discuss tonight? 36:31.240 --> 36:36.680 Looks like our next meeting will be Monday, May 11th, and that will be Sarah's last meeting, 36:36.680 --> 36:47.640 I believe. Yes, sir. And if I hear there's no other comments, is there a motion to adjourn our meeting? 36:47.640 --> 36:54.680 I'll make that motion. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. We're adjourned. Thank you.