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Council meeting for tonight, Wednesday, April 8th, 2026.

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All older persons, our council members are present.

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Please join with me and Evan.

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I'm sorry, Dan Benning is absent and excused.

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Evan, you're gonna stand right here, buddy.

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Scott working on his mayor badge this evening

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for citizenship is gonna lead the Pledge of Allegiance with me.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for

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which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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All right, man, I think you've met all the requirements you can go.

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I sat there once upon a time, packed 3855 with my scout troop and a while back.

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So I appreciate you being here tonight.

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All right, with that, then we're gonna move into public comments and appearances.

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Just a reminder to community members, you have the three minutes to speak and

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a maximum of 30 minutes this evening.

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This time we'll welcome public comments and appearances.

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Okay, Tracy Finch, port view drive, port Washington.

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Mayor, the question from ABC 12 could not have been more clear.

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Do you regret allowing 24 hour construction and yet you did not answer it?

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You avoided responsibility and the people of port Washington deserve better than avoidance.

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Before proving the around the clock construction, any leader should understand what an AI data

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center brings in its early phases.

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The research is consistent.

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The first six to 12 months are the busiest, loudest and most disruptive period of the

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entire project.

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This is when land is transformed into industrial zone.

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Private equipment run nonstop, hundreds of thousands of workers are on sites.

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Major civil, electrical and utility work happen all at once.

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This is the phase that impacts residents the most.

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You knew the original schedule was 7 to 7 p.m.

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But within minutes of meeting with Vantage, you approved a 24 hour construction five days

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a week with a chuckle.

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The decision was made without meaningful consideration.

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The people who live here, the people who trusted you to protect their well-being instead,

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instead the priority was placed on the developer's timeline.

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You also suggested that these residents should be used to farm nighttime noises because of

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farming.

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Anyone who has lived near farmland knows the comparison is inaccurate.

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Farm noises happen occasionally, not every night, not for months and not at an industrial

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scale.

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Your decision has consequences.

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Residents did not ask for heavy construction during the hours when families are trying

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to sleep, recover and maintain their health.

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You did not account for their stress, the disruption or the mental strain this would

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create.

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And when a community is placed under the level of pressure without support, the harm does

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not stay isolated to individuals.

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It spreads, it affects families, workplaces, schools and overall stability of the town.

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This is why the residents of poor Washington deserve access to a licensed mental health

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support at no cost.

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I am asking the city to consider providing a professional licensed therapist funded by

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the city to all residents living within a one-mile radius of the data center.

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This situation was created by the approval of your 24-hour construction and the community

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should not be left to shoulder the impact alone without proper support, the long-term

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consequences could not only individual well-being but the overall health of our community.

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It requires taking responsibility of your outcomes, your decisions, especially when

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those decisions harm the community.

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It means acknowledging mistakes, correcting the course and putting residents of poor Washington

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first.

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That is what the city needs from you right now, but instead your actions suggest unwillingness

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to face the consequences of the choices you made.

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Thank you.

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Speaker, James Perez, 2214, Stonecroft Drive, Town of Grafton, it has been my experience

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that you can learn a lot by carefully observing the actions of those more intelligent than

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you are.

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I am certain that some of the boys in the room are already saying that, in my case,

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that probably encompasses pretty much just thought everybody that must come in contact

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with.

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I don't think it is that bad, but let's consider again the words that we have all heard before

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written by Abraham Lincoln in March of 1865 in advance of his second inaugural address.

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It goes as follows with Malwis towards none, charity for all with firmness in the right

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as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in to

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bind up the nation's wounds.

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The mayor has a catchphrase that we have heard as well a number of times that you can't shake

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hands with a clenched fist.

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It is not quite Lincoln-esque, but the sentiments are the same.

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Perhaps now is the appropriate time to bury some hatchets, and that all of us go forward

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unite and in together striving to build a better port Washington for all of its citizens.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Like Speaker.

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Name and address.

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Mike Beaster, 305 South Garfield Avenue, and it's the last time I get to speak from

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this end.

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I want to express my heartfelt gratitude to the voters in Ward 6 for giving me the

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opportunity to be their voice here at City Hall.

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Seeing democracy in action as an incredible feeling as elected officials, we are responsible

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for being more informed than the average resident when making good decisions, however, no single

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input to representative democracy matters more than the will of the people.

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I vow to always take this responsibility seriously and make the best decisions I can for the

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people of the city, especially those in Ward 6.

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We represent the folks who pay taxes here, raise children here, and own and shop at small

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businesses here.

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We do not represent Larry Ellison, Sam Altman, or Dana Adams.

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This community belongs to we the people, our voices matter.

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And with that, I will once more invite Vantage to open a dialogue with the community in a

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town hall setting so that people can better understand what is coming and voice their

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concerns.

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I believe Mayor Ted is doing his best to communicate between Vantage and the city, but one person

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can't be expected to catch everything.

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Concerns like enforcement of noise levels, like what we see in Mount Pleasant, and why

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is we energies raising residential rates 9.2% next year to pay for new gas generation

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facilities when we've been told time and time again that this project won't affect our rates.

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We don't need billboards and misleading push-pull surveys, we need communication and transparency.

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My guess is that other older persons would also find this beneficial for their constituents.

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I also welcome further discussions with state officials and regulators.

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They have thus far failed to put the same effort into creating some basic protections for communities

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revolving around AI data centers as they did into pushing 2025X16 through.

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This bill put the city in a position to put even more money into tax increment financing.

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When phase two of this project will find more value locked up in TID than the entire current

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value of the city until last night.

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Finally, poor Washington is the best place in Wisconsin with a renewed focus on what

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the residents of this great city are asking for.

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I'm confident we can keep it that way.

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Thanks.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker.

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That's it.

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All right.

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That's going to move us into the agenda then.

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We have the first item here is the consent agenda, which is the approval of minutes from

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previous meetings.

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Is there anyone willing to make that motion?

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So moved.

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Second.

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Second.

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Any questions or concerns on that motion?

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All right.

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Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Aye.

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All right.

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Motion carries.

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Next is under mayor's business.

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There's just a couple of things here.

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One is I just wanted to again thank the I don't know why I stood there.

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I stopped.

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Joe DeBore and captains are necky.

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They gave me an almost two hour tour of our new safety center out on the west side of

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town.

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And I just wanted to encourage community members to as they drive by there, ask any questions

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that they have.

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It's state of the art.

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So fantastic facility and we're going to be opening that up for tours to our seniors.

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In a couple of weeks, the seniors are going to take a tour with me through the senior

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center.

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So if you're a member of the senior center and you'd like to go, please make sure to

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contact them and register.

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So we're going to take a site tour of the building and then we're also going to take

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it them on a site tour of the construction project on the north side with vantage, which

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leads me to the second one, which is I wanted to thank the 30 plus people who attended this

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past month for the data center tour.

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If any of you are ever interested in going on the monthly community stakeholder tours

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of the data center, please shoot me an email and we'll consider you for that.

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With that then, as we go into May here on May 18th, so council members of any of you

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are available, that is the mayor for the day where I have the fourth graders from Lincoln

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Elementary and Dunwoody Elementary and St. John's the 23rd to come for their mayor

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for the day.

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So they'll come and be sworn in at eight o'clock in the morning and everyone is welcome to

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witness that.

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At their schools, respectively, each of the schools do it a little different.

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Some of the schools have the students run.

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Some of the schools have the young people appointed.

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Also as a reminder, if anyone is interested in sitting on any of the boards, commissions

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or committees for the city of Port Washington, please send me an email.

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There are several openings.

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It's become very difficult to ask for community volunteers to serve in those committees over

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the last few years.

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So if you're interested in everything from police and fire commission to the library

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to public works to CDA and everything in between, you can look up online or contact us if you're

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interested in those.

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With that then, I want to move into several proclamations here.

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I'm going to shift around the order to start out with two proclamations.

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One is for the month of April is something that, especially in our current time and current

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state, I think is very important for us to recognize.

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Port Washington is home to many military families.

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And when I grew up living on Portview Drive in the Kerry Apartments, our apartment buildings

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were filled with Coast Guard families from Milwaukee who are from all over the United

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States.

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And it just is something that is a special part for me to recognize that the month of

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April is the month for military children.

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Young men, women, who's moms and dads and family members are active in the military tend

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to move around a lot.

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They tend to shift communities and they tend to live with the anxiety and fear of their

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parents serving.

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So I'm very proud that we will be proclaiming this month in recognition of military children

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in the city of Port Washington.

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That proclamation will be able to be viewed online.

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There's some unique facts here about the state of Wisconsin.

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There are two million children in the United States who are the children of men and women

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who serve in the military.

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And in the state of Wisconsin, there are 10,000 school-aged military children across our state.

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And again, many of them live here in the state of Wisconsin.

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So I want to thank them and their families.

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The second one is another thing.

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And Tom, you're here, so you get to accept this one.

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My favorite building in the city is where I went as a kid all the time, which is the

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Anita Corn Library.

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If you have not visited there since the upgrade and the investment through Tom's work through

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getting the grant and Roger's work in getting the construction done, please do.

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But this is National Library Week is coming up April 19th through April 25th.

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And I just want to remind everyone to utilize the great functionality of our library, the

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resources and the awesome people who work there who can support you and us.

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So I'll read this one because whereas Wisconsin libraries have long served as trusted and

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treasured institutions and library workers and librarians fuel efforts to improve their

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communities, campuses and schools.

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And whereas the W.J.

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Anita Corn Libraries are organizers and information experts who for decades have guided people

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to the best information resources and librarians provide expertise service and guidance to

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patrons to access credible sources and information, making their own informed decisions about

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the worlds they navigate and whereas our library and librarians offer more books, more than

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books offering communities the opportunity to be engaged and deliver new services that

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more closely connect communities and their needs.

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And whereas our librarian librarians work to serve all community members offering services

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and educational resources that transform communities, open minds and promote knowledge growth,

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particular as a society continues to transition to the digital landscape.

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And whereas the Wisconsin libraries, librarians, library workers and support, supporters across

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America are celebrating National Library Week.

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It's this year for the 68th year.

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Now therefore I be it resolved as mayor of the city of Port Washington do declare the

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month of the week of April 19th through the 25th as National Library Week and encourage

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our residents to please go to the Anita Corn Library just to visit and participate.

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Tom I also want to make sure that most community members know that that is a safe haven for

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members of our community who are in transition and struggle and use all of those different

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resources to give themselves a firmer footing for their future.

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So thank you for creating that safe and inclusive environment for us.

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I want to give this to you.

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All right and then the last proclamation is for our friend Alderman Tierney down here

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to my right.

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Pat is someone who I have had the pleasure of knowing for many years and I think our

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relationship started in the early 90s playing softball for Willie's Wish, dominating the

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softball circuit in Port Washington and Softville.

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Yeah, you me and Joe de Lucia.

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But with that I wrote a proclamation here very cognizant of the fact that it's for a

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journalist so my word choice is very specific and I hope it is meaningful for you.

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But I do want to thank you on behalf of myself and the council for just being a very steady

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member of this council making the commitment serving on all the boards, commissions and

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committees and as you hear in a second I think the key things that really stood out for me

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in all my years watching you on council were three key terms which is your integrity,

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your curiosity and your kindness all feeling a common sense approach to governance and

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really doing a great job representing your ward.

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So this proclamation stands for this evening and the historical record that whereas the

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city of Port Washington thrives when its citizens commit themselves to the pursuit of the common

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good guided by a vision for sustainable and vibrant future and whereas since 2018 Alderman

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person Patrick Tierney of the sixth ward has served this community with an unwavering spirit

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of integrity ensuring that the trust placed in him by the residents of Port Washington

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was held as sacred and a paramount duty and whereas throughout Alderman Tierney's tenure

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he has approached the complexities of city governments with a city governance with a

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profound curiosity never settling for easy answers but instead seeking to understand the

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why behind every challenge and the how of every solution and whereas Mr. Tierney's leadership

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has been defined by a rare and genuine kindness treating every constituent city staff member

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and colleague with the dignity and respect that strengthens the social fabric of our

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amazing city and whereas he has been steadfast advocate for common sense approaches balancing

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the needs of today with the fiscal and operational realities of tomorrow ensuring that Port Washington

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remains a place where families and businesses can flourish and whereas Mr. Tierney's service

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has been driven by a deep and genuine concern for the future leaving a legacy of thoughtful

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stewardship that will benefit generations of Port Washington residents yet to come.

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Now therefore I Theodore Nitsky mayor of the city of Port Washington do hereby issue this

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proclamation of profound gratitude and recognition to all the person Pat Tierney of the sixth

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ward for his distinguished service from 2018 to 2026 on behalf of the common council and

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all of the citizens of Port Washington we thank you from our heart for your hard work and

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your dedication to our community. Thank you Pat.

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Okay that's going to take us then to presentation from public works on facilities and future

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planning. Rob.

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All right thank you so yes I've been asked to make a brief presentation on what we are doing in

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public works to manage and track our facilities condition the condition of our facilities rather

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and put that into a 10 year budget forecast so this is not this is in no way a substitute

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for what we do with the budget that's going to be much more detailed but I want to quickly

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go through what we've been doing what we are doing and what we will continue to do in the

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future to manage the condition of our building so I'm going to start with so I think most of

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the council knows about the the Kraus Anderson facilities condition assessment in 2024 and let

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me quick say that if you're following if anyone's fine along with the the PowerPoint that I gave

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you last week I've tweaked it a little bit so I have it flip flopped a tiny bit here but you know

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prior to doing that facilities condition assessment we have a few other studies that were more in

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depth for some of our facilities including the wastewater treatment plant we did a needs analysis

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in 2021 along with the water filtration plant that was also completed in 2021 we're completing both

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of those projects this year. Library which Mayor reference was first had a it's condition assessment

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performed by Plunkett research in 2021 so a lot accomplished in that year and then the municipal

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garage where we're both our street department and park and rec how's their maintenance equipment

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that was performed by Keeney architects in 2024 and we had the presentation in 2025.

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We also have a full report we've had a full evaluation on all the HVAC equipment and all

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our buildings of course that and the next one roofing are the really the big ticket items that

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we encounter when we are maintaining our buildings and so in addition to that work that had been

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done in 2022 just most recently in 2025 Garland again our roofing consultant provided us with

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information on all the roofs and all the our buildings so that we know when to anticipate

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those improvements and then finally is the Krause Anderson facilities condition assessment

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that covers several buildings including City Hall the library the recreation office

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pool locker rooms the senior center the Eggert house in the 1860 light station

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facilities that are not included in the Krause Anderson facility condition assessment include

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the police and fire building although they did go through and and evaluate their their

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conditions as part of a complete evaluation and essentially the the foundation for the needs to

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construct a new facilities they're of course not in in the report now as we're we're completing

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construction on the new public safety building and as I just mentioned the streets the streets

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and parks municipal garage is a separate study as is the water plant wastewater plant the pebble

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house which was performed by our own staff in 2023 and then the marina buildings also reviewed by

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staff so I just wanted to highlight a couple of big ticket items so so we're in a pretty good

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position I think with our HVAC systems it's just that the senior center is reached the end of its

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use life for furnaces and condensers same thing here at City Hall they both been functioning

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without too many problems but again they're at there they end near the end of their life

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expectancy the police building there's was near the end of its life expectancy but of course that's

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being replaced with the with the new building and then jumping down to roofs both police and fire

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were in need of roof so we don't have those liabilities anymore and I list that down at the

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bottom one point six million dollars in addition to the judge Eggert house now that's going to be

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replaced this year with the assistance of the advantage who made a contribution towards their

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improvements along with some private donations that they received the senior center is is currently

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forecasted for 2032 replacement the parks main office in the water park building

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I have pegged at 2028 on our facilities condition assessment it's 2027 in the in the garland

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report but they've had no leaks and so we feel we may be able to get another year out of those

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okay and then DPW Parks and Garage improvements so I didn't I didn't want to lose track of that

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because it's not in the facility condition assessment but the estimated design cost for

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additions and improvements to that building are six hundred thousand dollars and the estimated

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construction costs are 19 million dollars and so we don't have that we that hasn't landed yet on

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our 10 year improvement plan but we will be discussing that again at budget this year

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okay and so the Krause Anderson facility condition assessment so I wanted to have a slide here

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that showed it but there's really a ton of information and so I'm going to I'm going to jump out of

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here for one second and then bring up what I have is kind of a condensed don't lose it

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yeah it's super

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okay well I uh and now is this not going to come back up

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okay this is called clairvoyance I uh if I been up that's why I was up here early to unplug

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yeah would you like us to gather around your laptop rub yeah no or you could yes if I believe

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I I um included the the spreadsheet that is in your packet what I can describe is that it is a

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very detailed report from Krause Anderson which includes all the aspects including roof HVAC the

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exterior enclosure um electronics every every item of the building um is evaluated in that in

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that report and again it's because it's so comprehensive there wasn't a real good way to

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project it on the slide and so I apologize for the technology maybe we need to add the

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maybe we need to add the technology to our facilities condition assessment that it's a need

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of work but I only had a couple more slides and so I'll just describe them the things that we need

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to consider when we're doing our long range budgeting is um what is the condition and

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criticality and that's something in the Krause Anderson report so you know what what's the

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condition of the roof and and of course the roof is a very critical item if the carpets in need

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of repair it may be in terrible condition but it's not critical that we replace it right and so

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what is the item at the end of its useful life so we have a life projection for instance of the

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boilers is 20 years we're at like 20 years we're past 20 years and so but those are big ticket

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items so are they requiring a lot of maintenance so we track the amount of maintenance that we're

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we're spending on Bassett to come in and repair the the boilers or the air handlers or the condensers

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are they still functioning um and how do we even out our expenditure so if you could have seen

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the Krause Anderson report it would show that we have split up about a five million dollars worth

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of deferred maintenance over 10 years and that amounts to about five hundred thousand dollars

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in expenditures annually so that doesn't mean it's definitely going to be five million dollars

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each year because something that's forecasted out eight years may last 12 years or we may have

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to move it up so we just have that on our radar I see it as kind of a worst-case scenario

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having to spend that half a million dollars but working together with Mark our treasure

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we can forecast or or kind of have that expectation that we need to put money into our buildings right

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to keep them operating and so that's where it's that's where it is sitting right now

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and then finally what's the long-term plan for using our building so for instance

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police and fire who had liabilities for about the roof and their HVAC system

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you know we want to have wanted to have replaced them five years ago only to

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move out of the building right and next year or the same thing if there if this

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there's always been discussions about whether the senior center is going to stay in their

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current location or move so we want to so I if there's an expectation from the council that we

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may be moving any of our operations we need to know that because then we'll bandaid our systems

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until move out so those are just the importance of long-term planning

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and everything that was referenced here tonight is on the public works web page and so if you'd

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like to see that please go to our web page including this presentation which I'll have up tomorrow

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so but all the reports that I that I included in this presentation are on there on our website

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any questions for Rob I guess for me real quick Rob thanks for putting this together I think

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if anyone goes has a chance to go through the crowds Anderson study you'll see how comprehensive

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it is it's really nice to see like red yellow green what kind of work we're kind of looking

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under and I think one thing that we've done a good job of forecasting what the next 10 years

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looks like we didn't even have a five-year plan I think several years ago so it's really nice to

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see that since we've been so successful with the library the lighthouse that like create things

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like that seeing all this information in one place have you thought about grant money and

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potential for some of these some of these big ticket items that have you given any thought

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in that regard we are always looking for grants you know we've been so you mentioned Valley Creek

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one of the reasons we've been so successful with that is that I mean the funding for projects like

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that are out there so we're trying to meet those goals because they recognize communities don't

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one don't have that kind of money and two they might not have ecology or the the environmental

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value is as something that they are able to place money and so we've been a we've been really

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successful with grants and as was mentioned earlier I'd my hats off to Tom who got one of the only

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library grants I think in fact the only one in this region and and so we are always looking for

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ways to creatively finance any of these projects so I'm definitely proud of that and like the

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work we did on the lighthouse bringing in grants wherever we can and other questions I was up here

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practicing two hours before and of course it glitched during the presentation so my apologies

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for that no worries okay thank you Rob that brings us into the agenda then for the evening on

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committees council committees the first agenda item is consideration and possible action to

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approve a one day extension of alcohol premise for Port Washington Main Street festivals of the

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city of the arts oh I'm sorry I blew right past that thank you there are officers reports that I

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that I went past I was just very excited to make sure we could have beer at the arts festival

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so the first agenda item is an election update from the city clerk Susan is excused from the

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evening because working the elections takes you into two days of straight work so the total

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the spring election total votes cast were 4201 which is equivalent of a 50.88 turnout

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absentee balance issued were 1,328 and returned from the absentee ballots were 1,198 the referendum

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results were yes votes 2,672 with a no vote of 1,409 and alderman new mire alderman bending and now

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our newest alderman mr bister will be sworn in for their 2026 to through 2028 terms on April 21st

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our next council meeting so we extend our thank you to all poll workers and election workers

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for what they do to make sure that we have free and clear elections in our democracy

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also okay just a couple things I wanted to thank the clerk's office and the inspectors and all

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the volunteers and all the staff that put all the time and effort into an election it really is

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quite amazing what all goes on for a city election and I do appreciate all of all that work um and

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the elders that I'll stop with that and then we have a presentation a little bit later about from

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grave and they'll be talking about intersection improvements that have to do with the data center

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project so they'll be talking about what we'll be getting modified lanes increasing and then

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roger will be here for that too and then the next council meeting April 21st we'll be having a

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presentation about all of the tid five pre projects so that will go project by project especially

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the projects that will be happening in the first three years so there's a lot of work going into

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that and we'll get that available probably by the end of the week if not the beginning of next

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week for the public to view that but please come to that next meeting and um absorb all of that

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information that will be happening in the city that's awesome thank you okay I'll try this again

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consideration and possible action to approve establishments one day extension of alcohol

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premises for Port Washington main street festival of the arts and the issue is should the common

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council approve a one day extension of alcohol license for inventors brew pub on east Washington

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street and the Port Washington state bank parking lot behind steers saloon to allow participation

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in the main street art festival of the arts and the event is May 30th 2026 the city clerk has

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reviewed and approves this request as presented for the establishments listed on the attachments

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that is the report I'm covering for Susan any questions or concerns on that something we've

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done before in years past so I would make a motion to approve the one day extension of alcohol

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premises there's a motion a second any questions or concerns on the motion

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right seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye opposed

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motion carries that brings us into the second agenda item is the consideration and possible

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action on use of capital reserves to fund bike trail paving in 2026 the issue is should the

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you should we use capital reserves to fund bike paving in 2026 and the staff recommends approval

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to use capital reserves to fund bike trail paving Melissa I can start out and if Rob wants to jump

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in this is our collaboration with the county they will be doing some paving on inner urban

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trail and they approached us and asked if this section of the trail we wanted to have done because

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they could get it covered through a grant and it would be much more cost effective after meeting

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with our staff and them so if they get the grant then we're asking for permission to use capital

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reserves to do this work while they're doing the other work and I don't know if Rob has anything

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else to add the trails in poor condition during the for the portion that they're recommending that

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it be resurfaced and so we're enthusiastically cooperating with them and that's between sock

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road and LL correct yep okay any questions or concerns on that yes mr gasper just not a

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question concern just I'm going to recuse myself on this vote since I am the chief designer on

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that section of the trail are you going to put in curves or anything fun uh yeah they didn't

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really want that I want to loop the loop don't want to loop the loop all right I'll make a motion

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to approve the use of capital reserve funds there's a motion to approve is there a second

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I'll second motion is seconded any questions or concerns on that motion

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all right seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye opposed

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all right one recusal and one recusal all right the next agenda item is consideration and

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impossible action on the valley creek box culvert design alternatives on lake street

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the issue is should the common council approve a design alternative to valley creek that opens

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the culvert on both sides of lake street the staff is recommending that the common council

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approve that valley creek uh that that be designed to open the box culvert on both sides of the lake

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as I turn this over to rob here I do want uh the council to know that I have met with the legion

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as well as members of the fish take committee as they use a lot of that park and uh they they

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are very understanding to what could potentially happen down there as we restore to its original

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state rob terrific okay so we have with us the the stan tech team uh who will be making a

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presentation uh this evening um this uh specifically we're going to talk about the specific thing

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that we're going to talk about at this meeting is the design alternative to um completely open

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up the creek on both sides of of lake street it should work um and so you know we're quickly

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approaching um completion of the the design of the entire uh corridor um we had our 30 percent

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presentation at the october 14th board of public works and then we had a public information

442
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:42,800
meeting that was very well attended on december 9th of of last year um all the way through our

443
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:49,680
design has included opening up the box culvert east of lake street um but alderman gasper uh

444
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:56,480
challenged our our design team to to come up uh with a day lighting um design that included the

445
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,400
west side of lake street too so completely opening it up um and uh improving the way it

446
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,640
handled stormwater and handled these major flooding events that we're experiencing so

447
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:14,160
we made a presentation on that at board of public works at our march meeting it was unanimously

448
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:20,400
approved by the board of public works and uh i also had reached out to the legion who um

449
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:27,200
uh who had uh no issues with it and reached out to the marina we use uh some of that parking

450
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:34,880
area for long-term boat trailer storage and um uh they were agreeable to finding other locations

451
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:40,800
and i've reached out to ozaki county uh their administrator who said they'd be willing to work on

452
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:50,160
us uh with us uh to use their parking lot um uh on main street so um so we've been

453
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:58,240
met with uh support uh from this it's supported by um john crayon at parkland rack and um but we

454
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:02,880
did want to because it's a it's a big change we think it's a great change but uh we wanted to

455
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:09,760
present it to the um the council as well so with that our team is ready this is sarah

456
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:16,000
magerris and hather schwarr from stanta yeah dig it away is it working good it's working for now

457
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,200
hi everyone thank you for having us tonight my name is sarah and i'm here with my colleague

458
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:27,840
hather um i just want to provide a little context before we dive into the alternatives that we're

459
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,720
considering i don't know if everyone is familiar with with the design as a whole so i want to

460
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:39,440
acknowledge the the holistic vision and the series of partnerships and funding pursuits that really

461
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:45,280
led up to this point just to start so this what you're seeing here is what our concept design

462
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:53,760
or 30 design looks like you can see that um it starts at noreport drive in fact we are designing

463
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:59,200
further north of that into birchwood hills where there's ongoing restoration efforts

464
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:06,640
um between the friends group and stantec and the parks department planting trees we'll be

465
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,440
doing some streambake stabilization up in that neck of the woods erosion control and clearing

466
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:18,320
of debris moving downstream toward hales trail we're looking at doing bridge replacements on

467
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:24,640
both hales trail and noreport to improve the the flow of water through the system um grading back

468
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,680
the banks of the of the stream itself if any of you are familiar with this corridor it's highly

469
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:37,440
eroded clay bluffs and we want to relax those slopes increase the floodplain um habitat

470
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:43,440
and flood capacity along this corridor and improve trail systems um so here are some real

471
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,760
quick just cross sections of what different sections of the stream will look like uh we

472
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:53,760
have proposed step pool systems in the lower left hand corner in the upper right hand corner sort

473
00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:01,280
of a cross section of a lower level floodplain something that might be referenced further downstream

474
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,240
and then in the lower right hand corner there's a section of of stream that's up against the

475
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:11,280
interurban trail that where there's a wall falling in currently um we're proposing to

476
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,760
revegetate grade those banks and create a more accessible stream corridor where trails can be

477
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:25,360
placed in the floodplain further downstream additional floodplain management erosion control tree

478
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:32,080
planting uh we're proposing to do an overflow a wetland overflow complex uh what's in what's

479
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:39,680
currently the Gunther Pond mountain bike park um relocating some of those features into different

480
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:48,000
areas um there's we plan to to rebuild and relocate much of the mountain bike trails and then downstream

481
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:54,560
is the daylighting at Lake Street which we are um talking about here tonight so this comprehensive

482
00:40:54,560 --> 00:41:00,960
approach also includes stormwater infrastructure improvements green infrastructure um with the

483
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:08,400
attempt to slow the flow of our storms that are flushing down through this system um you know the

484
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,840
and the the funding that we're using to complete the design is a big focus on floodplain

485
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:20,240
flood management ecosystem restoration fish passage and recreational access so those are

486
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:28,000
the components that we're focused on here um many of you have seen the 30 design the 30 design

487
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:35,040
proposes that we leave a lot of the paving in place that exists we are still we would still

488
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:41,520
have an extended uh culvert but a larger size culvert so it can handle additional flood flows

489
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:48,080
and the day lighting at downstream would be about 200 to 250 feet toward the lake between

490
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:53,920
Lake Street and the lake what we're here to talk about today is a proposed full day lighting and

491
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:59,680
when I say full day lighting they'll still be a bridge so that Lake Street can cross the system

492
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:06,800
it's about 100 linear feet compared to what what was a much longer section um there are many

493
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:12,560
benefits to this from an ecological perspective and from a flood control perspective I'm gonna let

494
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,360
our stream engineer Heather dig into the details and the pros and the cons of these different options

495
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:27,440
thanks Sarah so um instead of uh apples to apples pros and cons table we have a table here for you

496
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,840
that's showing the no day lighting the full culvert replacement kind of the existing conditions of

497
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,320
where we're at is on the left in the middle is that partial day lighting that's that 30 percent

498
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,560
that Sarah showed you which was day lighting that downstream section of the culvert but leaving

499
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,200
the majority of the culvert in place and then the alternative on the far right there the full

500
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,360
day lighting that's at 60 percent that's that last figure that you saw that was just the shorter

501
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:55,040
section of culvert where Lake Street is so a few things that are just concerns or things that I

502
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,560
know that that are covered as far as in the design that you're gonna have questions about is are

503
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,120
shown here on this table and the first one is of course flood risk and stormwater treatment

504
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,520
and if we look at the the no day lighting or kind of that existing conditions right now as you know

505
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,360
that the flow is constricted through there right there's existing flooding that's happening

506
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,640
those water surfaces will continue to be high in that reach there's still chances for debris

507
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,720
jams any culvert that you put in there as far as that constriction you're going to have some of

508
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,800
that and then there's not really a chance for that infiltration of stormwater to happen there

509
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,600
and as you can get into that 30 percent design where we're shorting it up the flow is still

510
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,000
constricted there's still a chance of debris jams but you do have that increased stormwater

511
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,040
infiltration down that downstream end because you have more exposed natural land uh native

512
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,760
vegetation to suck up some of that water um so there is some stormwater benefits there and then

513
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:49,600
that full day lighting option we've done preliminary modeling basically shorting shortening a 600

514
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:56,080
foot long culvert down to 100 foot we're actually seeing about three feet of drop of water surface

515
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,200
elevations upstream on the culvert it's actually dropping by almost three feet right now so I mean

516
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,920
that that's that's like we're in the conceptual modeling stage right now but that's showing you

517
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,360
the level of change we're not talking about inches of water surface elevation we're talking

518
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:15,440
about feet of water surface elevation uh it's giving you a wider floodplain upstream and downstream

519
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:23,200
to allow that flow and debris to be able to pass um there's less there's 16 000 square footage

520
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,080
of impervious pavement that's going to be reduced and then more stormwater infiltration

521
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,720
and I can go through each one of these on recreational value too but I think if you think

522
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:37,920
about it from what you have now from existing conditions to shortening up the culvert to removing

523
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,480
it as much as the the full day lighting you know you're talking about more park space you're talking

524
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,840
about increased public access to a stream and when I say increased public access it's not just because

525
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,000
it's open too we're talking about safer slopes for people to be able to get down and actually

526
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:58,000
access the corridor itself um and and just the benefits of it being able to interact with the

527
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,120
stream I do want to point out that there is an existing playground in that area right now it is

528
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,520
in the floodplain it needs to be relocated no matter what alternative that we choose

529
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,760
um it's an older playground too so it's something that's going to be part of the plan but the placement

530
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,640
of that playground is something that we can still uh you know discuss and you can see it on on the

531
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:22,640
figure that Sarah showed you it's right now um next to where that the fish day's tent is is where

532
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:29,360
it's located right now so we talked about the flood management we talked about recreation the

533
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:34,080
other considerations are the ecological value shown here the cost and the long of the long-term

534
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:40,000
maintenance cost so from an ecological value uh the existing conditions right the culvert

535
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:46,000
some fish can get up through it but it's limited it's a little flow barrier right now um plus fish

536
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:51,280
don't really like to go swim through a 600 foot long dark culvert they see that as a really big

537
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:56,640
limitation so by shortening the culvert even to our 30 design more officially able to get through

538
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,960
but by shortening even more to the just 100 foot long you actually will get daylight from the

539
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:09,120
upstream and the downstream through that culvert uh more fish will want to go through uh in addition

540
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,840
that gunther pond area will have areas for fish to actually spawn right there'll be there'll be

541
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,240
floodplain benches there that that some fish will maybe want to spawn at and so it's it's really

542
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:24,560
bringing up that healthy ecosystem for fish uh to be able to use this corridor cost we don't have

543
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,800
a full estimated cost in every single one of these yet we're in that alternative you know we're

544
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,360
asking you guys to think about if this is something that you know should be done but just from a broad

545
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,560
sense of comparison right now with the the no daylighting full culvert replacement it's the most

546
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:44,640
expensive option it's because a structure that's that long 600 feet long is more expensive than a

547
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,400
culvert that's only a hundred feet long so that's why you see three dollar signs for the no day

548
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:54,320
lighting and only one dollar sign for the the full day lighting so we do have a structural cost

549
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,320
estimated right now for that shorter culvert based on just the bridge and the culvert somewhere

550
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:05,040
around eight hundred thousand dollars uh to reduce it down to that the 30 design it's somewhere around

551
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:10,080
close to one and a half to two times the cost of that so maybe like one and a half to two million

552
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:16,400
dollars is what it is for that um slightly daylighted option and then when you think about maintenance

553
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,440
the bigger structure is the longer the structure is the more maintenance that goes with it the more

554
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,400
things that could go wrong so we just are pointing out here at the very last line like higher long-term

555
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:32,240
maintenance costs for a bigger structure versus lower with something that's shorter so that that

556
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:40,160
is the comparison table and i don't know if you want to go to questions or if you had something

557
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,720
else you want to talk about zero i think we can go to questions

558
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,160
do you want to bring up the boundary um

559
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,720
i i don't i don't normally start i just wanted to start by thanking you for this that i

560
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:03,040
it's very rare that a community gets to restore uh in daily and bring back the original navigable

561
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:08,800
stream um even with the 60 percent i mean just with just having a bridge basically there in that

562
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:17,840
small culvert i think that is this is incredible um especially because um you know that creek i'm

563
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:23,600
i'm thinking back my whole life and just the different ways in which different generations have tried

564
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:30,640
to fix that i mean i remember um when they threw pieces of old sidewalk down to try to retain the

565
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:36,720
hills and that's my first question for you robber the team is what what year did they put in the

566
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:43,680
big cement blocks uh just south of uh or just east of um elephant park do you remember the

567
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,560
because those are all got collapsed in like the first flood that hit down there yeah prior to 2001

568
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:54,560
i'm guessing maybe those lines all that is a 96 flood yes they were there prior to that but

569
00:48:54,560 --> 00:49:02,080
they're all i mean they're only held up by gravity until they're pushed down by gravity so and again

570
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:07,600
addressing the bridges all the way up along there too yes and and i do have one request when we

571
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:13,200
get that far if we get that far is in those bridge designs to put in respectful smart bridges versus

572
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:18,160
just a road with a big tube underneath it and the only thing keeping us safe is a wood fence

573
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,600
um because that's been completely redone in there and it's just such a beautiful corridor for our

574
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:28,480
city that i don't know i just i think this is really this is wonderful but i'm gonna stop talking

575
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:33,360
and i've got i've got other questions here but i'm gonna let council go other questions from

576
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,760
council alder person pastel yeah i'm really excited about this project because i've got

577
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:43,680
neighbors who've lost at least 30 feet of their backyard um along valley creek so i think this

578
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:50,720
is extremely important can you review for us rob the the funding for this whole project where

579
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:58,240
is this going to be coming from yep and so our stantic team can chime in with some of the other

580
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:06,000
ancillary funding mechanisms but um this is uh this is included there's 10 million dollars included

581
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,440
in tidd to five to cover this so this would not be you know our goal from the beginning my goal

582
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:18,800
from the beginning is to do this project without having to rely on our taxpayers or to borrow for

583
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:25,120
it and so we've been very aggressive in going after going after grants and um we're we're very

584
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:31,920
grateful that it was included in tidd five this is of course in the same watershed that uh the

585
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:40,160
vantage project is in the headwaters and so um it uh is essentially a part of this stream corridor

586
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:45,600
and so we were able to include 10 million dollars in tip funding so that'll be paid by the increment

587
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:51,600
from um that development on the north side and then also uh vantage did uh make a three million

588
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:58,560
dollar donation to lnrp that will go towards this and we are currently uh seeking funding from uh

589
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:04,400
national fish and wildlife foundation for six point three million dollars to fund the balance of

590
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:10,320
that so right now they're still working on um they're they're just at 60 percent so the budget

591
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:16,960
is still being developed but right now it could be uh as much as 20 million dollars to complete

592
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:23,200
this project all the way from the north and in birchwood hills down to to lake michigan and so

593
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,880
we are working again on putting the the pieces of the financing the pieces of the puzzle of finance

594
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:35,680
this again without relying on taxpayers so i'm very excited about the opportunity and so

595
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:42,400
um that's why we we are moving at great speed so that we can meet the deadlines for these grant

596
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:48,640
applications and so we should know by the end of may i think if we are going to be invited to

597
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,840
submit a full proposal for uh from the national fish and wildlife foundation they have funded

598
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,360
uh over nine hundred thousand dollars of the design and so once you are in their pipeline

599
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:04,400
in other words once they have put you in their funding program they want to see the project

600
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:10,000
through to completion so we're very optimistic that uh we'll score well in a very competitive

601
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,120
grant process cool thank you good question other questions

602
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:20,080
ultimately that's not so much a question it's just a comment i've uh i'm sorry some of you have

603
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,600
heard me say this at park and rec and you've heard me say it at public works too

604
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,840
but i think i'm very enthusiastic about this project and i think that one of the things

605
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:34,000
it's really important is to look at the entire project you know it just uh it just fits together

606
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:40,000
so well and because so much to control flood waters and the actions we've had from way up

607
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,680
at the beginning of it all the way down it's kind it's so completely thought through

608
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,800
that uh and i think it's obvious if you study the whole project i really encourage anyone to do

609
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:54,560
that uh one of my first uh right after i was elected one of my first uh meeting one of my

610
00:52:54,560 --> 00:53:00,160
early meetings with public works was right after we had had that huge flood that kind of overstorned

611
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:06,720
the uh the culvert there and everything and uh i'm glad that we're you know finally maybe getting

612
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:13,600
able to deal with that uh that whole problem now so again i'm very enthusiastic but goes well

613
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:23,200
other questions mr gasper um sure um more of comments again um yeah when um when i looked at the 30

614
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:29,360
percent and i pushed for them the head this direction um to me you're seeing the long box culvert it just

615
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:38,800
wasn't a very nice park like environment and i wanted to be more of a of a park amenity for us for

616
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:44,640
future generations going on and when you look at you like oh but we're losing park to the creek

617
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,440
but you're really not the creek is still part of the park the slopes are going to be gentle you're

618
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:56,080
going to walk down to it um in fact currently on the west side where the parking lot is it is so

619
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:01,360
steep to go down there that it really isn't safe to go down by it and this will make that a much

620
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,440
more gentle slope that people will be able to venture down there if somebody wants to go fishing

621
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:13,040
right there it would be safe to do so um you know we also look at this area having had the flooding

622
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:18,880
has older minterney mentioned and um the people in lighthouse condominiums have had their parking

623
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:25,040
garage flooded out twice over the last 20 years and there they've had enough of that um and this

624
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:31,360
should do the best pretty much that we can to alleviate that flooding but it's not only their

625
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:36,080
building that's flooding each of those flooding events has run a whole and even some of the more

626
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:41,520
minor ones has run a whole lot of mud into the water treatment plant that has been problematic

627
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,480
in there and a couple in at least one of the cases we were a couple inches of water away from the

628
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:53,840
water treatment plant having to shut down so this really is necessary for public safety in that you

629
00:54:53,840 --> 00:55:01,200
know we're our water plant is always at risk from this creek and this is about as I said the best

630
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,560
we can do to alleviate that risk with the with the water treatment plant the current site so

631
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:16,400
yeah I I very much like this alternative and you know we they took pains to make sure that

632
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:23,760
every single parking stall was accounted for and replaced and they're saving um you know paved

633
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:29,600
areas there's a lot more green space because of this while saving having just as many parking spots

634
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:36,800
so unfortunately parking stalls are an unnecessary or are a necessary evil um you know it'd be a

635
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:42,000
much nicer park without having to supply it but people like to be able to park and go to the park

636
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,840
so um we've made sure to maintain all those parking stalls

637
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:53,040
so it's your new um sorry yeah so thank you just to follow up on ultimate asthma observations

638
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,600
about flooding how do you remediate as far as protecting the water treatment plant in the yacht

639
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:03,600
club if we have a really large dispersion of water how what did we take into account for that if you

640
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:09,600
can I'm sorry can you repeat how do we protect the water treatment plant and the yacht club if we have

641
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:15,280
a huge flood how does that take into account for that for future I will say that this this

642
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,800
plant doesn't necessarily take that into account I'll say that like it's not I could put together

643
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:26,880
maybe a flood map that would actually show how the reduction in inundation area could be reduced

644
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:33,200
right it with this open stream that's something that we could definitely map out for you to show

645
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:39,200
the reduction as far as the inundation area goes but we haven't been asked specifically to look at

646
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,120
the wastewater treatment plant yet as far as that goes but you do have a sustainability

647
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,480
plan I believe for the wastewater treatment plant and flooding so that's something we can look at

648
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,120
water field water field water field I'm sorry I'm sorry water field water field okay thank you

649
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:58,720
yeah one more thing to just add to your to the answer if I may um you know at by by daylighting

650
00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:04,320
more of the channel we're providing a preferred route for any flood flows to go directly into the

651
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:09,600
lake through the open channel what's happening currently is debris is building up and then that's

652
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:15,120
forcing the flood water to go to other places and that's posing a risk to adjacent parking areas

653
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,680
and the water treatment plant in a different type of way thank you I wholeheartedly support

654
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:26,080
the project I think it's a great idea thank you I would just I'm gonna add here I just I really

655
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,920
appreciate that we're finally taking a proactive approach to flood mitigation and poor wash instead

656
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:36,720
of a reactive when we put up the gate reactive when we throw up walls reactive the navigable stream

657
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:41,200
part I mean that's been a passion project for me my whole life trying to get sturgeon reintroduced

658
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:47,440
in the Milwaukee River and just fish in here I am wondering how you are working with the design

659
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:53,680
scope of the headwaters in the area that is now on the vantage project with their 60 to 100

660
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:59,440
potential acres of retention ponds one of the main reasons we were told that area flooded

661
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:05,360
year after year after year was because of the different agriculture agricultural drain tiling

662
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:12,240
systems that didn't line up and just sent all the water into town rapidly so I'm just I'm hoping

663
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,880
that that is proactive in the conversation as well which is what puts it in the tidd is because that

664
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:21,440
is what flooded us traditionally for all those years so it's more of a comment and please make

665
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:26,080
sure you guys are working together we were up there the other day they've already got I can't

666
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:30,000
remember what it was 60 acres of retention ponds currently up there so I'm hoping that

667
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,880
makes for a much quieter spring here in Port Washington yeah I know that you know it's counter

668
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:41,360
intuitive to some to to most people that development actually improves the stormwater runoff but that's

669
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:48,160
the case so with with every every development the city of Port Washington and this is a standard

670
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:54,800
which was established even before I came here so I'm very proud that we have a stormwater ordinance

671
00:58:54,800 --> 00:59:01,280
that requires the 100-year storm to be reduced to a two-year pre-development runoff and so

672
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:08,400
some of our only a few of our developers complained about it but I mean that means we're kind of

673
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:14,560
in that sweet spot for making sure that we are that every development improves the situation

674
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:19,200
for the people who live downstream of those developments and so it's really paid off.

675
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,440
I have two other wonderings as we move forward with the project and as you're writing the grant

676
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:29,840
and one is thinking back to when we had our young people here from TJ if there's a way to

677
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:34,720
build in a community service project when we do the plantation plantings in the vegetation in there

678
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,880
so we've got some youth ownership in the project and then the other one is

679
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,680
really I had it's more of a question for John but are we going to go in there in this project

680
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:50,880
and are we going to work to remove as much of the debris as possible or at least fell those trees

681
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,680
so that they're more natural instead of getting washed up and jamming up the creek over time

682
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:01,520
is that part of the scope of the renewal to remove all those right so the design the design of

683
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:08,960
this incorporates actually that debris that's currently in the in the floodplain we are going

684
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:15,120
to be using that to break debris to stabilize the the new bang embankments and so they're actually

685
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:22,800
use that vegetation to reduce future erosion and to establish the the stream bangs

686
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:28,320
and the rest of it that we don't use is going to be hauled out and so awesome I mean it's going to

687
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:35,200
be essentially a clean a clean site once we are completed with this project fantastic yeah

688
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,280
Evan do you have any questions

689
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,320
okay all right any other questions or comments from council

690
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:48,480
Mr. Mayor hold on Mr. Benning I just call on Miss Miller I'll call you next okay

691
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:55,440
so just an adjacent wondering you talk about the fish coming back into this creek and all of that

692
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:02,800
so would that be part of this plan to get the DNR involved to repopulate or to have spawning

693
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:08,000
areas created or is that going to be an adjacent plan that we would do after

694
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:16,960
if anyone knows we know I can speak to that it is a part of the comprehensive plan all of the

695
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:22,080
the fish habitat improvements will be built into the design itself and we're working with Sea Grant

696
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:28,480
Titus Selheimer is a PhD with Sea Grant and he's been doing research on the creek itself to better

697
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:34,160
understand what species are trying to encourage to come up he's seen he's seen observations of

698
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:41,360
salmon coming up from Lake Michigan suckers and we're hoping for northern pike so it's all part of

699
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:49,360
it so so we wouldn't be stalking it or would we just allow it naturally come up because there is

700
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:55,040
some restocking of our fish in Lake Michigan and other lakes so I was just curious it's something

701
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,600
that we could talk about but as of right now it would be naturally occurring let let giving

702
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,560
them basically a path to come up okay thank you and as far as DNR you know we've already been

703
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,800
coordinating with them like like Sarah said the Sea Grant and and the DNR is aware of this

704
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,840
and not only is the DNR aware but we've had the UWM students have been here doing the research

705
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,160
with Titus from Sea Grant on this they've been coming up here and looking at fish and doing

706
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:25,280
some water quality assessments we have some UWM students doing some mapping for us looking at

707
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:33,440
trails we've had school-aged people coming here and doing tours with LNRP so the community

708
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:38,000
the youth that aspect of it is something that has been brought into the project and we're going to

709
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:44,720
continue to do that again it's just awesome I mean I'm older but I'm not that old but that that

710
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,600
creek level has dropped so much over the course of my life through the erosion and I worry all the

711
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,000
time about the west side of the bluff so I mean I think we've got a nice compounding effect here

712
01:02:54,000 --> 01:03:00,320
and I'd ask us to move as quickly as possible in this so Mr. Benning yeah I just want to say thanks

713
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:06,640
to Rob and the team I gave him a list of questions on Monday morning with the timing of the packet

714
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:12,000
and the holiday and elections and things like that so thank you for the feedback there I do have

715
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:19,120
you know some concerns with the cost of this in my my recollection may not be right but I thought

716
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:25,440
we had started out at a 15 million dollar estimate and now we're up to 20 million and so I'm concerned

717
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:34,640
that that keeps creeping up so I'd like to get to a a good number that we understand fairly well

718
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:41,280
I have concerns about losing more green space down there and I understand that you know

719
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:47,680
the green space we will be kind of adding along the edge of the creek is this very beneficial

720
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:54,960
but we're also losing green space kind of over on the north side of the driveway behind the

721
01:03:54,960 --> 01:04:01,840
van shell where we're adding a whole bunch of parking spots in there so just green space in

722
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:09,280
that area especially with what we had to lose with the water treatment plant is getting valuable

723
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:15,280
and the more we can retain down there the better so keep that in mind I think the other thing is

724
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:21,680
that when we when we consider the bridge for the path along the lakefront you know when we have

725
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:28,800
festivals that is the path for emergency vehicles to get in there because lake streets closed we

726
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:35,360
need to make sure that bridge is capable of handling that that volume of traffic going through there

727
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:42,800
as well so just and and mayor I I don't want to disagree with you but I have had some of the

728
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:49,040
fish day people reach out to me and and very concerned about losing space down there for

729
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:56,800
their festival thank you any other questions or concerns though is there someone willing to

730
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:04,000
make a motion sure I'll move to I'll move to accept the staff recommendation and the staff

731
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:10,000
recommendation again is to do the 60 day lighting correct Rob is there someone willing to make a

732
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:16,320
second seconder second by ultimate tyranny any questions or concerns on the motion

733
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:22,320
right seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye aye opposed aye all right motion carries

734
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:28,800
thank you very much this we're very much looking forward to this thank you okay that brings us to

735
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,840
unfinished business which is from the top of the hour our librarian is here to do a charter

736
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,440
presentation which I blew right past the mic excitement to proclaim it his week

737
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:45,600
so Tom you are up to do your charter presentation well it's really you have three minutes please

738
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:52,480
state your name and address Tom Carson library director 424 Grand Avenue take as much time as you

739
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:57,680
need he said three minutes so basically you have a copy of the charter in your packet

740
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:06,000
so really our focus this year is getting used to all the new renovations and I will tell you

741
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:13,920
we've received nothing but positive comments from our users especially which I'm very proud of

742
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:21,360
is the bathrooms were finally redone that actually has been people have been shocked when they've

743
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:29,200
walked into the bathrooms but also they really are using the study rooms and the conference room

744
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:37,040
and the computer lab we're offering more computer classes which are gradually going up in attendance

745
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:45,040
so our goal is still to be a community gathering space as well as an opportunity people to access

746
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:53,520
information we are like all public libraries in this country we are changing it's really not

747
01:06:53,520 --> 01:07:03,040
about it's not just about the book anymore the print book our statistics for digital access to

748
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:10,080
materials is gone up dramatically it's gone up dramatically around the state the state is working

749
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:19,200
on trying to create more opportunity to people to access digital content I have to repeat this

750
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:28,240
a lot because people think that libraries can get digital books really cheaply we cannot we actually

751
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:38,880
pay about well the system the state system pays 76 dollars for a digital title and once they

752
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:48,240
sir 26 times they got to buy that copy again so and the state knows that we need more money for

753
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:55,360
the program there are organizations working with the state to provide more funds for the digital

754
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:01,680
library we are one of few states in the country that provide digital materials to every resident

755
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:07,680
in the state of Wisconsin you just need a library card and a password to access the collection

756
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:14,800
yes it is heavily used there's like 400 holds on some titles but we're doing the best we can to

757
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:20,160
meet those needs so I just want to invite everyone to come and use the library that's what we're

758
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:28,720
there for we have well-trained staff we are have great programming especially for kids

759
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:36,080
we really focus on literacy and getting kids started so when they get off to school they're ready

760
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:47,120
and get them to enjoy learning so please come and use us we have everything done except we

761
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:54,240
got to do a little way finding we have all the latest technology all our computers have been updated

762
01:08:55,040 --> 01:09:04,480
our Wi-Fi we now have 12 access points versus two so we really have improved that so feel

763
01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:09,840
free to come and use us any questions what's the current wait time of Theo of golden

764
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:19,680
you know sir you could look it up it's a bunch but I will tell you we are participating in what

765
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:27,600
they call the advantage program so if you're using digital content in the digital library always go

766
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:33,840
the next step to see if we have it in our library system because we are spending a little more

767
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:40,320
money to buy extra copies but it's only for those folks who live in Dodge Washington,

768
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,880
Shabogan and Otaki County.

769
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,920
Tom are there ways the public can support the library?

770
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:52,160
Sure we always take donations you can be a member of the Friends group the Friends group

771
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:57,520
helps us a lot because they they're in charge of the use book sale so and you can get some

772
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:02,640
really good deals on use books I mean there's a lot some people bring in brand new books

773
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:13,040
they're a buck versus $15 now they're not there every day but we also there's opportunities for

774
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:20,800
programming our scene this year is dinosaurs for the summer we have some really great programming

775
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:28,080
coming up and so yeah we take donations we are not taking books donations yet just keep that in mind

776
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:33,280
people keep calling us but we got to create a little more space to take those donations

777
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:37,760
awesome and I appreciated hearing that Mr. Harris is going to be in an inflatable dinosaur

778
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:44,800
costume waving people in the summer so well that was very cool we did I actually contacted

779
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:50,480
a company in California that brings we can get a 30 foot dinosaur

780
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:57,760
um but it's two thousand dollars a day and I don't think that's uh the right way to use

781
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,480
a day Bob wouldn't charge that we'll build that

782
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:08,560
no it's actually a replica and they're 30 feet 30 feet high I mean they ship it it it

783
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:14,800
it blows up with air and it'd be really cool but it'll feel too pricey I think for like $15 on

784
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:19,760
Amazon we can get Bob their costume other questions for about the charter

785
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,280
not so much about the charter but I do want to thank you and everybody who has worked at the

786
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:32,080
library continues to work at the library um me and my family have been card holders since 1987

787
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:39,040
when we moved back into town before that we've had other library cards but um most importantly

788
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:44,240
though it's not only the members of our community who are physically here right now

789
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:49,920
when my son was in the Navy serving in Japan in Spain he also used all of the services that

790
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:54,720
are available online and for someone who doesn't have access when they're on on a ship in the

791
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:59,760
middle of the ocean this was fabulous for him so I want to thank you again well thank you and

792
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:05,920
so the statewide program is BadgerLink and the digital Wisconsin digital library all available

793
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:12,240
you can be in China yeah and download books I know people who have done it uh so it is available

794
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:19,600
so use these resources they're available okay thank you Tom yep thank you all right that moves

795
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:25,280
us back into oh I'm sorry all the maternity do you have a question oh no okay all right that

796
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:29,280
brings us to new business then the public works five-year planning for intersection improvements

797
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:34,800
for the vantage data center uh Rob I'm going to turn this over to you and our friends from

798
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:41,840
grave yep okay I'll kick this off and I'll first just for clarification um the the title of this

799
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:47,280
item is really just the intersection intersection improvements for vantage data center the public

800
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:52,800
works five-year planning that's going to be at our uh at our next council meeting and a preview of

801
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:57,760
that at our upcoming board of public works meeting uh next week so we have representatives from

802
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:04,240
grave they are engineers who are working for vantage and designing intersection improvements

803
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:12,080
that will facilitate movement of vehicles both workers and oversized trucks to and to and from

804
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:20,400
the site we have Alex Monal and our model sorry and you got a model okay sorry Alex Monal and

805
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:26,400
Jim Lisa here from from grave and so I'll kick it over to Alex all right thank you thank you all

806
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:31,520
for inviting me and Greg here tonight to talk a little bit about the roadway improvements

807
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:38,960
um I wanted to to start off by saying you know we we looked at you can see on this map which is

808
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:45,920
the tid five area um the red circles are the locations the intersections that were included

809
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:53,120
in our study this these were identified um in conjunction with the city um Ozaki County and

810
01:13:53,120 --> 01:14:00,720
the Wisconsin DOT because it does include an interchange with i43 um we really focused on

811
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:05,680
improvements that would be required for two different um two different reasons so the first

812
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:13,200
would be flow and traffic operations and reducing congestion um and impacts to the motoring public

813
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:19,440
because of the increase in volume and then we also looked at improvements focused on geometrics

814
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:24,720
because of some of the size of some of the vehicles that would be coming through you know the the

815
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:31,040
larger delivery vehicles so all of the improvements at these intersections and along the roadways are

816
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:41,040
focused on addressing one of those two issues at these intersections so the first area that we

817
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:51,520
looked at is highway h um with the interchange at i43 this is exit 100 um so highway 32 and h

818
01:14:51,520 --> 01:15:00,800
on the north side of town um starting at the north end so the intersection of uh h and kw um

819
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:08,480
no significant improvements adding a right bound uh right turn lane for the northbound

820
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:13,600
approach so that that northbound traffic can move out of the way out of the through lanes and make

821
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:20,720
their turn um a little bit of pavement widening there for vehicle tracking um as we move to the

822
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:26,960
southbound and northbound ramp terminals with i43 those would be kind of the biggest areas

823
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:33,280
where we wanted to focus on improvement um those we are looking at adding temporary signals to

824
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:41,520
both of the ramp terminals um and that is really to help provide progression along h and make

825
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:47,520
sure that there aren't impacts on the ramps um with the amount of volume that we are expecting to

826
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:53,760
the site during construction um there could be delays potentially on the freeway if we weren't

827
01:15:53,760 --> 01:16:01,280
to put signals in and also potential um potential delays on county h thank you for coming tonight

828
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:10,960
so putting in these signals um and in tying them connecting to the signal at ll um immediately

829
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:16,960
south of the interchange will help provide that progression along county h and make sure that

830
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:23,440
your movements off of the ramps are uh occurring so that you're not seeing those long delays and

831
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:29,520
impacting the motoring public um when we worked with the dot on these one of their biggest concerns

832
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:36,880
was making sure that we're not creating long queues um whether it's on h or on the ramps

833
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:42,960
keeping traffic flowing with progression so um in addition to any of the the

834
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:49,280
the temporary timings themselves there will be coordination between all three signals so that

835
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:55,840
you can create that progression as you're moving through the corridor uh we are also looking at

836
01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:03,040
adding some turn lanes so at the um southbound ramps it's kind of hard to see in this image but

837
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:10,640
right now there is only one northbound left turn lane to go south on i-43 we are proposing to take

838
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:15,600
the middle lane which is currently a through lane and make that a shared through left turn lane

839
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:22,640
to help reduce that queuing and really make sure that we're not impacting uh the through traffic

840
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:29,040
that is trying to go on h so um that involves widening the on ramp so you'll see there's um

841
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:36,640
we've added some pink shading that's uh an expansion of pavement to um allow for two receiving lanes

842
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:44,640
so that we can pump more traffic through and minimize those impacts to the public

843
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:54,640
at highland lane so now we're moving kind of northeast a little bit so this is um taking ll and

844
01:17:54,640 --> 01:18:03,440
highland drive um highland lane is the underpass that goes under uh 43 um we are looking at uh

845
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:09,840
we are looking at uh an enhanced pedestrian trail crossing so this is also right where

846
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:16,800
the inner urban trail crosses highland drive um looking to really enhance visibility and safety

847
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:24,160
there um making sure uh right now we are looking at um putting in rectangular rapid flashing beacons

848
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:30,480
which is the wigwag lighting that you can push a button and there's um lights that flash to notify

849
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:35,840
drivers that there are pedestrians or people biking on the trail making those crossings

850
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:43,120
one of the other things that we are proposing on ll is some widening to account for a free flow

851
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:52,320
southbound right turn um for people exiting um we're going to be restricting left turns out of

852
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:58,720
that movement to go north on ll uh just because of congestion allowing that movement would um

853
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:06,240
it really create congestion and delay on highland drive and highland lane so by expanding the

854
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:13,520
cross section on ll to the south we'll be providing space for a free flow right turn lane on highland

855
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:25,040
lane then lastly on lake drive at the north end of the site so the top image is at kw on the west

856
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:32,960
side and the bottom image is lake and ll on the east side um we're proposing adding right turn

857
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:38,320
lanes for those counterclockwise circulation patterns and that's really to get the traffic

858
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:45,520
coming to the site out of the main lanes of travel so that anybody that's slowing down

859
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:52,800
to make a turn is not impacting through traffic um separating those movements helps avoid any

860
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:57,200
potential safety issues with rear ends for vehicles slowing down and just help separate

861
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:02,960
movements and gives everybody their own lane and then it also minimizes any congestion issues with

862
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:13,200
traffic slowing down so these are the improvements that we are recommending um have been approved

863
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,000
the concepts have been approved by the wisconsin department of transportation

864
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:25,760
as far as schedule and timeline goes uh we submitted plans last week to the dot we did get

865
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:31,920
some comments back we've been working with them um in the dnr on um getting appropriate approvals

866
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,560
and we have a meeting with them scheduled tomorrow to talk about some of the temporary

867
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:42,080
signals logistics we are expecting to get those permit approvals within the next several weeks

868
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:48,320
and the vantage team is working on pricing and getting those um improvements set up and we are

869
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:55,200
expecting that though they will be installed within the next two months or so so i would think by

870
01:20:55,200 --> 01:21:04,880
may you'll be seeing a lot of these improvements coming awesome uh moosa and just um for clarity

871
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:10,000
and i know rob spoke to this but this isn't an action item this is just an update um the title

872
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:15,680
is like a little bit wonky but where we are working with the county on most of this

873
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:20,320
road construction work so that they're getting the revenue for that and they are not doing they

874
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:25,920
can't do the traffic signal pieces um so we're working externally on that but i just want to

875
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,360
let you know it's not an action item it's just an update these are requirements from

876
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:34,800
the dot to make sure that this is a safe project but like yeah eventually we'll get more clarity

877
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:41,120
on the timing and like five-year plan this will all come piecemeal as a this work this work will

878
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:52,560
all be done pretty rapidly um within the next six months yes this work is being done to eliminate

879
01:21:52,560 --> 01:22:00,720
or minimize uh congestion during construction so these improvements will actually be removed

880
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:05,200
once construction is complete so like the temporary signals we're not putting in permanent

881
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:10,240
signals at the ramp interchanges the volumes won't need that post-construction so they should be

882
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:16,000
installed very soon in the next you know month or two months two to three months

883
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:24,000
and then we'll be removed post-construction and and and none of this involves any

884
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:29,760
eminent domain issues this is already owned by the east of the state the county or the

885
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:35,520
municipality that's for by or by vantage or by vantage yes correct okay thank you

886
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,720
other questions mr good i was going to call you mr gimpson

887
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:50,000
yeah um looking particularly by the i-43 ramps my initial impression was that it looked like

888
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:57,040
overkill but i can see that dot would require that no matter what um so i was going to ask for

889
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:02,240
the temporary signals um it is truly going to be temporary dot is not going to require us to

890
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:07,040
put up monotubes for just a couple years because i have worked on a project where they did require

891
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:12,880
us to put up a monotubes that we knew would come down in three years uh that is not currently uh

892
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:17,280
on the table our plans the temporary signal plans that we put together and have submitted

893
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:25,120
for review um do show polls it would post um so i i would not expect that they will be requiring

894
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:31,200
anything like that um it is the intent to remove them post-construction the the warrants were not

895
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:37,040
met for permanent installation okay um would the the turn ramps in is the intent to remove

896
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:42,480
them post-construction to or are they going to stages without the signals or potentially get

897
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:46,640
striped out if we don't need them you mean the widening yes the widening for the like the turn

898
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:54,240
lanes or the the extra lane down the ramp and so that the pavement could be removed it could be

899
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:59,760
left and striped right now the plan is that it would be removed um all of the pavement markings

900
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:08,080
so um particularly at the uh southbound off-rams for that dual um shared through left lane um we

901
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:12,880
have a pavement marking plan that shows the temporary condition and then a removal and restoration

902
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:17,760
plan as well that shows everything going back to the conditions that it is right now so that will

903
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:22,800
return to two through lanes and a single left turn lane in the future okay yeah actually the

904
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:27,920
for the traffic on that on that bridge it's four lanes but it could be just a two-lane bridge

905
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:33,760
would be completely adequate under normal conditions yes the DOT really overbuilt that in the 70s

906
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,440
yes target roads here on wisconsin public radio

907
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:44,960
mr gasper do this does this for a living so it's always interesting i have no idea what

908
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:50,080
you're talking about what was it pipes pipe pipe what is now a month so like a lot of tube is

909
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:56,720
DOT it sounds like a Disney thing it's it's about a up to a 36 inch wide pole that comes up it's

910
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:02,800
on a base that goes down about 16 feet into the ground in fact i don't know how we'd ever really

911
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:08,320
would remove those other than blasting them they're um they're they're huge with full and full of

912
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:13,440
steel they're overkill and they're really expensive and referenced in the calm plan update

913
01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:21,360
all right so no other questions or clarifications on the report for us mr mare yeah mr betting

914
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:30,560
just a couple comments questions um how long is you anticipate the temporary signals being in

915
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:38,640
place the construction is expected to last for about five years okay that's for phase one or

916
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:48,880
phase one and two phase one okay so okay um and then the traffic coming northbound and 43

917
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:57,360
and the off ramp that then wants to go northbound on ll has to cross a couple lanes to get to that

918
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:05,040
left turn lane if you know if we got a consideration there that we don't back up traffic blocking

919
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:12,960
cross is trying to cross there or can't get across there yes so the signal phasing is set up there

920
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:21,600
is a southbound at the the ll and h intersection there is a southbound left turn there um green arrow

921
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:29,680
phase and so that movement that path from the off ramp making a right turn to then go south and

922
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:35,680
make another left turn onto ll that is one of the patterns that the signal timings are um will be

923
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:42,160
set to address and accommodate that movement okay because it i mean it's a little hairy today

924
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:49,520
even trying to get across two lanes and i just didn't know with the lights holding up traffic um

925
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:55,520
how that was going to work so so the lights will actually assist that because the southbound

926
01:26:55,520 --> 01:27:02,000
traffic on h will be stopped when the the right turn traffic i mean you will have right turn on

927
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:11,680
reds but um there will be i guess i'm more concerned about northbound 43 off ramp traffic

928
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:18,240
queuing up for the stoplight and then if you got eight or ten vehicles backed up there that are

929
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:26,560
coming down and queuing up to get either straight or or left turn so that's it gets more my concern

930
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:33,520
is the volume coming off 43 and wanting how many of them don't want to turn left on ll going north

931
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:43,360
on ll okay this way over here yeah on ll yeah so if you're making this this movement coming down

932
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:53,360
and then that direction so if i've got vehicles queued up on on the off ramp from 43 north

933
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:59,040
and then that light turns green for me and i've got to get all those vehicles today it's usually

934
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:05,360
one or two vehicles i could have six or eight vehicles lined up there yes so the lights will

935
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:12,720
be timed so that you can make that movement kind of all together and that's something that we will

936
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:18,640
be monitoring and and working with the dot on who's managing these timings um

937
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:25,920
traffic flows fluctuate throughout the day and the timings um we have different timing plans for

938
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:30,880
different movements and flows so that might be a pattern that you see during the morning peak

939
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:38,240
hour as people are driving to the site um and you might have a different timing pattern or

940
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:44,640
prioritize different routes at different times of the day so we work with with the dot who manages

941
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:52,880
the signals to adjust timings as needed okay thank you okay that looks like those are all of our

942
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:57,120
questions thank you very much for coming in this evening and presenting this and looking forward to

943
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:01,520
a little safer north side there absolutely thanks okay that brings us into consideration a possible

944
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:07,040
action on resolution 2026 dash 04 approving governmental responsibility for targeted runoff

945
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:11,840
management and urban non-point source and stormwater management grants the issue is

946
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:16,800
should the city approve resolution 2026 04 to authorize the director of public works to apply

947
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:23,760
for dnr targeted runoff management trm and urban non-point source grants to fund improvements to

948
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:33,520
valley creek the staff's recommendation is approval of resolution 2026 04 rob okay so um following

949
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:40,000
it up on how we are planned to fund the valley creek improvements these are two more grants that

950
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:48,080
the stantec team has identified both supported by the department of natural resources dnr and

951
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:54,800
they require prior to submitting these grant applications that the council passed a resolution

952
01:29:54,800 --> 01:30:00,400
supporting them so it's two different grants that we intend to apply for the non-point

953
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:06,880
source pollution grant and a targeted runoff management grant and so those will support

954
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:14,960
two aspects of the project one being the stormwater management best management practice bmp

955
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:21,120
on the west side of upper lake park which was also mentioned by the mayor this evening to um

956
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:28,000
attenuate erosion on the the bluff and the other is uh to

957
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:38,960
help pay for what we call RSCs or um all right I'm having a moment here but regenerative storm

958
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:50,880
water conveyance uh at various discharge locations along the creek so um so one is a 70

959
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:58,240
percent uh grant funding rate the other is 50 percent we have matching funds provided both by

960
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:02,960
the vantage uh donation that I mentioned before of three million dollars and the 10 million

961
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:13,040
dollars that has been um allocated in the tiff um and so uh staff is recommending approval of the

962
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:21,760
resolution that is in your packet any questions anyone willing to make a motion on the recommendation

963
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:27,600
to approve resolution 2026 dash 04 permitting him to go after these grants I move uh to approve

964
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:34,800
resolution uh 2026 dash 04 there's a motion is there a second second there's a motion a second

965
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:39,280
any questions or concerns on the motion all right seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye

966
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:45,040
opposed all right motion carries just as a reminder council when more than three of us have our

967
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:50,800
microphones on we get feedback consideration impossible action on the approval of an easement

968
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:55,840
to we energies for electric utility on east jackson street should the city approve an easement

969
01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:00,400
agreement for electric utilities for we energies to provide power to the peer street landing

970
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:05,360
development the staff recommendation is to approve the easement for we energies roger

971
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:11,920
all right um so the peer street landing development was approved at the last

972
01:32:12,480 --> 01:32:17,360
council meeting and uh as as part of their development they're they're removing some

973
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:22,400
power poles bearing bearing power lines and transformer that serves this area

974
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,360
is on one of those power lines so that that's coming down needs to be on the ground

975
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:33,200
so um just a little point of clarification this transformer serves the house adjacent to the

976
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:39,600
city parking lot on the north side of pure street and and then also the one of the buildings

977
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:44,400
have from franklin street so it serves two properties across the street from the pure street landing

978
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:50,640
pure street landing has a transformer for their development on their property

979
01:32:52,800 --> 01:33:00,080
um so anyway as as a result of of these design and and action taken um

980
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:05,360
we energies needs is putting this transformer on the ground they need space for it and they're

981
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:16,000
requesting an easement from us okay all right any questions or concerns i would just um as

982
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:22,720
a comment say um i'm not sure it's the best place to put it but i don't know where's better um it

983
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:27,840
it it's it's a it's a spot that if we were ever to want to redevelop that parking lot i have a

984
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:32,880
feeling no matter where we put it there it's going to be in the way and we probably can't make the

985
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:38,080
right decision on it because it's no matter where we put i think it's going to be in the way there

986
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:45,840
but since it is uh not just exclusive to the one parcel but um also benefits the others i guess i

987
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:52,880
would move to approve this item we have a motion is there a second i'll second move it in second

988
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:57,200
any questions or concerns on the motion seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye

989
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:04,080
all right opposed that motion carries that takes us into the last agenda item this evening

990
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,840
which is public comments and appearances are there any public comments or appearances this

991
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:14,640
evening all right seeing seeing none i would like to give the floor to alderman attorney

992
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:23,680
just thank you mr mary just wanted to uh express my thanks to everyone uh both on the council and

993
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:30,320
the staff and the two mayors i've worked with and the three administrators and um to appreciate

994
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:38,400
educating me as we go along i was thinking today that in late 1979 it was in just october i was

995
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:43,600
just finishing up a four-year hitch in the navy i had about six months to go i was at an instructor

996
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:48,720
at great lakes and i was living in canosia i had a part-time job at the newspaper and i went down

997
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:53,760
to the newspaper to drop off some copy one day i ran into the sports editor and i was always

998
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,680
kind of looking hey need any stories covered you know anything i can do to get a new clip

999
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:02,800
chris is probably the only one that knows what a clip is but uh the uh he said well you know i'm

1000
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,760
looking for some guys to go out and cover the state championship football game we're really

1001
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:11,040
excited about this trampers in it it's one of the first state championship games ever played

1002
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:15,120
it'll be great it was in ashkash and i said i said who are they playing he said port washington and

1003
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:22,800
i said oh where's port washington and a year later i was sitting in this council chamber covering

1004
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:28,720
the port washington common council as a reporter and up a year before that i didn't i wasn't sure

1005
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:36,400
where the city was located so uh that uh was quite a change uh and i just wanted to say that uh

1006
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:42,560
the whole time that i've been on the common council or before that when i was covering the city

1007
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:49,840
there's always been kind of a matter of uh too many things needing and we don't have not enough

1008
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:56,320
dollars and um it got uh and always we've talked about things that were kicked down the road

1009
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:01,040
deferred maintenance and this type of thing and having kind of gone through some of the history

1010
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:06,000
it's hard to blame some of those people that kicked things down the road when i moved here

1011
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:13,760
i checked inflation was 15 percent and unemployment was almost eight it was 7.9 percent and we went

1012
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:19,760
through we went through the great depression when we had so many open storefronts downtown we the

1013
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:25,840
mayor has mentioned that we saw our once thriving industrial base just kind of shrink over the years

1014
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:32,960
and uh i think you know and things kept getting pushed off so it's hard to blame people but i think

1015
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:39,520
you know in the last 18 months we had an opportunity to do a reset and it you know no matter what

1016
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:44,560
people think it was not an easy decision i don't think it was easy for anybody i lost all kinds

1017
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:51,200
sleep over it and uh in a way it would have been easier to say no let's not do this you know it's

1018
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:55,680
you know i think we could but then i think we would have been kicking financial issues down the road

1019
01:36:55,680 --> 01:37:00,880
and i think somebody would have been able to blame us for that and uh you know like we could have

1020
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:07,120
waited for that absolutely perfect potential development that everybody would have loved

1021
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:12,560
and wouldn't have caused any trade-offs and we'd still be waiting and they'd be waiting in the

1022
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:19,600
perpetuity so i you know i think i think we took a responsible approach and i'm uh you know i'm

1023
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:25,600
i'm gonna live with that and i want to do want to say it it's been a pleasure to work with all of you

1024
01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:35,120
and uh i have never had any reason any reason at all to doubt any of your integrity or to doubt

1025
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:40,720
your sincere desire to do what is best for the city and what is best for the people that live here

1026
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:46,800
and i'm proud to have worked with you and and i hope i'm not going to go die tomorrow or anything

1027
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:51,120
so we'll see you around but uh it's been a pleasure it's been a pleasure thank you

1028
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:58,720
with that would you like to make a motion there's a motion to adjourn is there a second

1029
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,880
second by all room and puzzle any questions or concerns on the motion

1030
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:12,880
pass this to him please all right all in favor signify by saying aye opposed the motion carries

1031
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:17,680
the meeting is adjourned go pirates and good night thank you pat