WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:08.320 The park and recreation board uh it's been properly noticed and we'll show that uh right now 00:08.320 --> 00:13.200 members Dan Ross and Wayne Cruciella aren't here but that we do have a quorum with the three 00:13.200 --> 00:20.160 members that we have. First order of business is to approve minutes of the previous meeting. 00:20.800 --> 00:22.640 I'll make the motion to approve. 00:22.720 --> 00:24.240 In the motion do we have a second? 00:26.160 --> 00:30.960 Okay any questions about the motion? All in favor please say aye. 00:31.520 --> 00:37.920 Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. The minutes are approved. Uh public comments and appearances. 00:39.920 --> 00:46.640 We don't have any anyone in the public right now uh so we'll let that go. We'll move on to 00:46.640 --> 00:50.080 chairperson's business. I do have a couple of things I want to say but I think I will 00:50.080 --> 00:56.480 I would like to hold those until the end of the meeting. Um so we'll move on to members liaisons 00:56.480 --> 01:01.920 business uh do either of you have something that you would like to mention or bring up at this time. 01:03.760 --> 01:07.120 It's not required but it's an opportunity. 01:10.800 --> 01:16.000 Okay so we'll move on to the director of parks, recreation and forestry. John you're on. 01:20.640 --> 01:23.120 Yes we did. 01:27.040 --> 01:34.800 Okay um first off I do want to thank Patrick for his service 01:37.120 --> 01:41.040 with the park and rec for how long have you been on? Yeah 01:41.760 --> 01:49.520 Well we're going to miss you and we really hope you come back as a citizen. 01:50.960 --> 01:57.600 It looks like that may be in the work so um so but I just wanted to say thank you I always 01:57.600 --> 02:04.880 appreciate your support over the years and your ideas. Um okay so uh we got a few things on here 02:05.840 --> 02:11.360 that I'd like to go through. I'm connected here I don't know why I'm not. 02:15.680 --> 02:21.600 It's uh it's coming up. It's just not I'm there we go. Okay. 02:35.520 --> 02:45.680 Um okay um starting off with uh we'll go through the recreation update. 02:46.560 --> 02:49.920 Our spring gymnastics have started. There will be starting in mid-April. 02:52.080 --> 02:57.840 We do have a lot of registration that's been happening with that. It's always been a successful 02:57.920 --> 03:09.520 program. Baseball um we've I think we are at one um one player pitch for sling pitch 03:09.520 --> 03:17.440 and um a lot of T-ball. So we've got a lot of T-ball has been very popular. Our registration 03:18.080 --> 03:26.880 opened up this morning um had over 7500 in revenue on registration on the first day so that's 03:26.880 --> 03:33.600 exciting. People are catching on and um paying attention when we when we post this stuff. 03:35.520 --> 03:44.960 Um on the pool pool update um opening day will be June 12th um we'll be filling the pool beginning 03:44.960 --> 03:49.360 of May. That's always tricky. I can't give a date on that. Every year we do have a restoration 03:49.360 --> 03:55.840 done on the pool basin but prior to that the groundwater has to settle enough that it's not 03:55.840 --> 04:03.120 seeping through the cracks. Um one of the things with that pool is every winter depending on 04:03.760 --> 04:10.720 what type of winter we have. If we have a really a lot of extreme cold and temperature changes 04:10.720 --> 04:18.080 we often end up with um cracks in the pool and we have to bring in. It's budgeted every year that 04:18.080 --> 04:26.880 we have uh restoration company come in and and do tuck pointing and uh fill in a lot of the cracks 04:26.880 --> 04:33.920 and unfortunately this past year was pretty rough on it. Um pool passes did open up. I'm not sure 04:33.920 --> 04:42.640 where we're at on those yet. Um the theater update we do have Madagascar coming up on May 1st and 04:42.640 --> 04:48.400 2nd and then our summer production is going to be the hunchback of Notre Notre Dame and 04:50.480 --> 04:56.240 that is going to be the last production under the recreation department. Um I'm not sure if I brought 04:56.240 --> 05:02.080 this up in the past that we were in talks with the school. The way that it operates 05:02.960 --> 05:12.880 um we use the school facilities. There's staff um from the school that works on our 05:13.920 --> 05:18.080 there's a lot of overlap and back and forth so we started discussing with the school 05:18.800 --> 05:26.160 could this be an opportunity to keep theater going and they're better suited with their staff 05:26.720 --> 05:35.840 to keep it running and and run it with their um fund 80 to help support it. So after the summer 05:35.840 --> 05:43.440 production theater will be shifting under the school system. Um and I'm gonna say you know that's 05:43.440 --> 05:48.320 one of the things that we're trying to work on more is more collaboration with the school and 05:48.880 --> 05:57.040 um I've had talks with um there I'm not sure his title but um that that runs all the outside 05:57.040 --> 06:04.320 programs to make sure that we're not overlapping and that we're running programs you know because 06:04.320 --> 06:09.680 we're a small community it doesn't make sense for us to compete. So that's one of the things that 06:09.680 --> 06:14.800 you know we've looked at um it's going to be better suited to run under the school. So it's 06:14.960 --> 06:19.680 not going away it's it's still here for the community it's just going to be run under the 06:19.680 --> 06:28.880 school and that same goes with um the safety town program um that was also under recreation 06:30.160 --> 06:36.720 but what it is is you're preparing kids a lot you know to be in the school so we would operate 06:36.720 --> 06:44.640 the safety town in the school with the school resource officer. So again it's you know it's 06:44.800 --> 06:53.040 it's better shifted under the school. Um moving on to our our park and forestry update 06:54.640 --> 07:02.480 we um we had a very successful year on our pruning um and and removals were just wrapping up. 07:04.080 --> 07:09.760 And the nice thing is um we were able to secure a grant this last year a DNR urban 07:09.760 --> 07:14.960 forestry grant that helps cover a lot of the operating costs that just got done submitting 07:14.960 --> 07:22.240 that grant um we pruned over a thousand trees um we did a lot of training in there we had some 07:22.240 --> 07:28.000 new guys from the street department um it was really well exciting for me probably not exciting 07:28.000 --> 07:33.200 as much for them with the pruning but um they're starting to really see the effects of of what 07:33.200 --> 07:39.200 we're doing um you know a good case and point was that windstorm we were just talking about came 07:39.200 --> 07:45.840 through and we had nearly 70 mile an hour winds we really only had three trees that 07:47.120 --> 07:54.480 caused major damage and I and I think back to when I had first started here we we would when 07:54.480 --> 07:59.120 we got storms we would get a lot of uh you're really starting to see a turn with a lot less 07:59.120 --> 08:05.760 damage um when things are properly taken care of um so we are out stump grinding right now and 08:06.400 --> 08:15.600 the um we'll start digging holes next week and the planting um our spring planting trees for the 08:15.600 --> 08:23.040 street trees will be planting roughly a hundred street trees we did have some some photos of the 08:24.720 --> 08:31.360 guys we did some pruning up at Colbach Park I mean a lot of overgrown invasives in there 08:32.000 --> 08:36.960 um this is uh the middle pictures I'm not showing up no am I 08:51.600 --> 08:53.760 yeah shouldn't this just be sharing my screen though 09:01.920 --> 09:14.560 okay yeah I guess I assumed this was coming off your computer but it is but it's not actually 09:14.560 --> 09:20.640 what you wanted right at this point well I'll see if I can I'll see if I can pull those 09:21.440 --> 09:23.840 those up later 09:28.960 --> 09:34.560 okay well I can I can pull up the pictures after I go through um 09:36.880 --> 09:42.160 staff hiring update um summer staff we're getting a lot of positions coming in 09:42.560 --> 09:50.560 um as I and I were just kind of working through the the pool staff and um where we are 09:51.840 --> 09:58.240 where we're at on that um so I'm gonna start interviewing the seasonal positions for the pool 09:59.360 --> 10:08.800 as early as next week the rec supervisor position to replace um Beth who has been gone for a few weeks 10:08.880 --> 10:16.480 now we're down to two very strong candidates very happy with both it's a tough decision 10:17.760 --> 10:25.520 but we'll be narrowing that down this week we do have an aquatics coordinator 10:26.240 --> 10:30.960 slash head guard that's just more of a management position to help with the pool so 10:31.920 --> 10:35.440 the good news is we're in we're in a good position with the pool it was 10:35.680 --> 10:46.160 um you know it's a it's a very uh labor intensive uh program I guess um throughout the whole 10:46.160 --> 10:55.040 summer so I think we have almost 40's um seasonal staff there so um the confident we're going to 10:55.040 --> 11:01.680 have a good year there will be some some new faces but they have backgrounds in pool and um we do 11:01.760 --> 11:08.240 have a lot of returning staff um then I can go into I'd like to go into a little bit of that 11:08.240 --> 11:11.760 could I just I wanted to ask a couple of questions about these before we move maybe move on into 11:11.760 --> 11:18.880 those things uh one thing on on the pool update and I'm kind of passing on a concern or a question 11:18.880 --> 11:24.480 that was asked me by a constituent are we do we go when we before we put the stuff out the the 11:24.480 --> 11:30.080 chairs and this kind of thing do we kind of go over those and maybe get rid of ones that are not 11:30.800 --> 11:35.200 or maybe test them to make sure that they're yeah going to be able to carry weight and 11:35.200 --> 11:40.640 everything like that and get rid of any that are torn and yeah we we go through and may um 11:41.520 --> 11:47.520 I'm probably going to get a little bit more involved with that this year um I noticed last 11:47.520 --> 11:53.920 year we did have some chairs that ended up and we did go through and we had to remove a lot of 11:53.920 --> 12:00.560 the chairs but um we we have an opening day or a pool cleaning day with the entire staff 12:01.600 --> 12:07.360 mid-May where we put everything out go through everything wash everything down 12:07.360 --> 12:14.240 house all that um and then get everything set prior to our opening okay that's good and then 12:14.240 --> 12:19.280 do we periodically kind of review I mean our staff like told you know keep an eye out for 12:19.280 --> 12:23.040 something that might happen so you know just so that we don't have something out there that 12:23.040 --> 12:27.440 somebody might sit down on and just yeah right to the ground or something so particularly if 12:27.440 --> 12:33.280 they're grandparents or something like that no anyone could get you know yeah we do and I did I'll 12:33.280 --> 12:41.920 be honest I did notice that um last year there was a few instances that I had to bring that back 12:41.920 --> 12:47.440 to attention that you can be a little bit more stern with that for that reason so that'll be 12:47.440 --> 12:56.000 definitely um close eye on and uh something that uh when you were talking about the pruning and 12:56.000 --> 13:01.120 this type of thing I wanted to ask uh is that is the reason is part of that the fact that you 13:01.120 --> 13:06.560 we get rid of all the dead stuff that's on there but also maybe thin out the canopy a little so 13:06.560 --> 13:13.200 it doesn't catch as much wind yeah you're structurally pruning to some part of the main 13:13.200 --> 13:20.960 thing is a lot of times they'll develop uh codominant stems um weak stems that can cause 13:22.720 --> 13:30.480 ultimately cause failure on the tree um in wind storms whatnot um yeah it does reduce wind load 13:30.480 --> 13:37.120 as well but um and then on top of that because of where the trees are we have to clear or raise 13:37.200 --> 13:44.640 them clearance pruning so there's there's several approaches um and the way we went out at this year 13:44.640 --> 13:50.400 is we in the beginning of the season we focused on structural pruning where we were able to spend 13:50.400 --> 13:56.480 a lot of the time and we did uh about 250 trees structurally pruned then we had to shift our 13:56.480 --> 14:01.840 focus more to clearance pruning into a lot more clearance pruning because you're not going through 14:01.840 --> 14:06.880 the whole trees but in this instance it's finding that balance to make sure we're getting both 14:06.880 --> 14:15.200 things done okay good thank you yes i have two questions how freak i don't know anything 14:15.200 --> 14:22.560 of relay about pool cleaning but how frequently is the bottom of the pool cleaned especially in 14:22.560 --> 14:31.920 the lap lanes so that should be done weekly where we have uh we've got a robot that goes in there and 14:32.880 --> 14:41.120 is that runs at night throughout the night and okay scrubs it um and then you know depending on 14:42.640 --> 14:52.160 um you know if there's need it is scrub too okay so i did notice last year that there was algae 14:52.160 --> 15:00.080 build up and again that was i'll take the blame for it but that was part of what the aquatics 15:00.080 --> 15:06.800 coordinator i was kind of leaning on they were returning it was my first time going through a 15:06.800 --> 15:14.640 season of the pool so i need to be more involved to make sure these things are getting done because 15:14.640 --> 15:21.280 once it gets beyond it's hard to go back right so it's something that really needs to be kept up 15:21.280 --> 15:27.200 on and it did get a little bit too far last year and it was hard to hard to get rid of 15:27.280 --> 15:35.280 once it's there okay the other question i have is we talked about um evaluations after like 15:35.280 --> 15:44.400 a soccer program or swimming lessons did we ever follow up with that at all so i did i did ask and 15:44.400 --> 15:50.880 what what i was told is that we were putting those out and getting little to no returns 15:51.760 --> 15:58.400 um so i don't i don't know it's something i can talk with zia about if we can add that in you know 15:58.400 --> 16:08.560 maybe um you know something that i work with with the last program manager and um she said that 16:08.560 --> 16:16.240 you know they try to this but it failed but i i think with this new it's it's going to be community 16:16.240 --> 16:22.320 activity supervisor is the title now um i would like to open that back up because i think 16:22.320 --> 16:26.720 there's ways to probably do it now that are automated and a little bit easier that you 16:26.720 --> 16:33.840 could get the feedback or maybe it was maybe it was just a form or something that people didn't 16:33.840 --> 16:40.880 right and i don't know if it was sent by how it was managed but i think it's important that we do 16:40.880 --> 16:48.320 that yeah i'm i'm very open to that so i i will um i will talk with the new community activity 16:48.320 --> 16:54.720 supervisor to yeah i know now and a lot of things kind of isn't just this but i i get a text that 16:54.720 --> 17:01.440 will ask me to evaluate something i get an email and and then i'll get reminders so i think you know 17:01.440 --> 17:07.120 that yeah it would be a maybe i think there's probably much easier ways now that we'll get um 17:07.760 --> 17:10.480 probably a much stronger response if it's easy for people 17:12.000 --> 17:18.080 and is it anonymous do you know that because some people if people have a concern or 17:18.080 --> 17:23.120 complaint they may not want i mean it's just human nature but they may not want their name 17:24.000 --> 17:32.880 associated with yeah negative comment or constructive i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know 17:32.880 --> 17:36.240 whenever somebody brings it up to me i i i really try to 17:37.520 --> 17:43.040 because i mean i'll get them a lot where it's just trees and um you know things like that or 17:43.040 --> 17:48.800 things in the park and the most part you know people are respectful about it and it's 17:49.840 --> 17:56.240 we can't see everything so right right um yeah i'm i'm open and i want to know so yeah i i think 17:56.240 --> 18:02.160 that's a great idea to have it um have it sent anonymous and then and then we'll we'll see and 18:02.160 --> 18:06.240 we can evaluate what kind of returns we're getting if we're getting people we'll keep it 18:06.240 --> 18:08.880 it i i don't think it's going to take much to do 18:16.320 --> 18:23.200 okay um what's that i'll i'll um i'll get a little bit of a overview of the 18:23.200 --> 18:40.160 uh let's see why okay okay that's what's going on is the presentation was overriding 18:40.160 --> 18:51.360 everything like you said down um so uh the valley creek corridor um we've been working 18:51.360 --> 18:56.960 with stan tech on this um this just kind of an overview and a bit of a presentation that they 18:56.960 --> 19:00.800 gave us so i'll piece through some of this um 19:04.320 --> 19:11.840 i'm not directly involved with all of it but i i do know a lot about it um and you know i've i've 19:11.840 --> 19:19.920 seen actions of this creek you know from from just from working for the city for the 15 years of of 19:19.920 --> 19:29.360 how flashy it can get in heavy rainstorms um we have made attempts over the years to to try and 19:30.960 --> 19:37.280 you know just open these things up but with our staff i i can recall a few years back we 19:39.360 --> 19:44.480 went in there when it was frozen with an excavator and a a crew of five for 19:45.280 --> 19:54.080 almost a month and we cleared it out but um i think with a couple of heavy rains by the next year 19:54.080 --> 20:00.880 you couldn't even tell we we touched anything um so it it was going to take something bigger um 20:01.520 --> 20:09.040 and you know we we have had you know a few flooding issues um so so valley creek stems all the way 20:09.040 --> 20:15.600 this is just a picture of uh this is about halfway between jacks and inhales trails of showing you 20:15.600 --> 20:23.600 what happens with that um bank it you know what happens here is it just keeps undercutting and 20:23.600 --> 20:29.760 what you're end up seeing in the future is as that keeps undercutting you're going to start having 20:29.760 --> 20:37.680 more major events where major collapses come in and then that starts changing the whole landscape 20:37.840 --> 20:49.680 um so um valley creek stems all the way up from birchwood hills um you know comes down through 20:49.680 --> 20:56.560 where areas that are affected that we have i mean other than we do have sanitary sewer and and 20:57.440 --> 21:04.720 you know other drains that come through there um but we have birchwood hills where it starts we 21:04.720 --> 21:11.040 have anton park our community gardens whitefish park upper lake park um gunther park 21:12.080 --> 21:16.960 and then north beach which isn't really effective but it just kind of give you a um relevance of 21:16.960 --> 21:28.720 where this is so um some of the things that you know is happening through here is different photos 21:28.880 --> 21:37.840 um you know they've tried with the heavy stone um heavy blocks um there it's nothing can stop 21:37.840 --> 21:45.280 if if you've ever seen what this creek looks like after a heavy rain it's it's continuously 21:45.920 --> 21:51.040 undercutting um the stabilization and then on top of it we've had all the 21:53.600 --> 21:58.000 ash trees that have went down there's several willow trees that have went in there 21:59.680 --> 22:08.080 you know it's just it's a recipe for just continued um failure on those those banks 22:13.520 --> 22:16.480 so the main focus is going to be the ecology 22:20.000 --> 22:26.400 funding primarily through grants um they're they're going to talk more about this at council 22:27.360 --> 22:33.120 um you know as i said this is um i'm not i'm not leading this but um there has been 22:34.080 --> 22:44.160 um 1.4 million so far in uh in grants um and working on the um stream design and i believe 22:44.160 --> 22:50.240 the final stream design is is coming up um in april 22:50.720 --> 23:02.400 so again um some of the goals uh restoration of the watershed improve water quality 23:03.760 --> 23:08.560 better public access um and resilient to two floods 23:13.840 --> 23:19.280 um give you an idea like um you know our culvert um we were talking about that earlier 23:19.360 --> 23:26.880 it's there's there's no way that that that culvert can handle the amount of water that comes through 23:26.880 --> 23:33.760 that that creek so um you know we are looking at opening that up and i've got some slides down 23:33.760 --> 23:36.240 further um in veterans park 23:37.040 --> 23:52.960 so there has been a lot of uh communication about this um we've we've had several uh input 23:52.960 --> 23:58.560 from from different avenues on this um again stantex is really leading the design on it 23:59.040 --> 24:11.200 but agencies involved um coastal management program the dnr um senator baldwin was here 24:11.200 --> 24:13.840 um visited and was very supportive of the project 24:21.120 --> 24:26.880 so we're always looking for different avenues and partnerships to to work with and i think 24:26.960 --> 24:32.720 this will really open it up if it's more accessible because right now it's it's it's not very accessible 24:32.720 --> 24:36.960 we do have the trails that go through there and the mountain bike trails but um there's a lot of 24:36.960 --> 24:42.080 steep banks and um it's just it's not i think there's an area of opportunity for it 24:47.360 --> 24:54.720 um it's all going to be nature based so when you look at what's down there's there's ways to 24:54.880 --> 25:04.960 there's ways to move and utilize a lot of that down down wood and um once you you find the the 25:04.960 --> 25:09.120 natural flow of that stream you're not going to have things as flashy and you're not going to have 25:09.120 --> 25:18.400 as much undercutting and um you you can create that that uh the banks to withstand those heavy 25:19.040 --> 25:22.720 heavy rain flows by opening up that um basin 25:25.760 --> 25:33.040 this kind of gives um you know a few ideas of of how that is you recreate um 25:34.800 --> 25:38.480 the basin that that it's not going to be is is sharp of banks 25:38.480 --> 25:53.600 just a few more slides on that um here's some examples of you know what we have and it's a lot 25:54.560 --> 26:02.080 a lot more aesthetic um and and healthier that you're not going to have uh these exposed pipes 26:02.320 --> 26:14.800 for drainage um this is the Walter Street ravine probably not you can see this if you look for it 26:14.800 --> 26:22.400 when you're when you're walking um up the creek that's that's to the west looking west i'm going 26:22.400 --> 26:35.120 towards Walter Street um these are just some bridge ideas these are again our concept designs 26:36.080 --> 26:41.680 um up by up by ant one you go with culvert or single span bridges 26:45.920 --> 26:50.320 but yeah to kind of give you an example you know just the pictures on the right of it's just a 26:50.320 --> 26:51.680 lot more attractive of 26:57.360 --> 27:00.320 i think i have a few other pictures that i can 27:04.400 --> 27:08.320 you should mention that we when during that open house we did have a pretty good turnout 27:09.120 --> 27:15.360 here with a lot i thought a lot of positive comments and and some good questions you know some it was 27:16.240 --> 27:22.480 i think in my opinion was one of the better uh presentations like that that we've had 27:22.480 --> 27:29.920 with good feedback and um yeah um there's been a lot of planning going into this so there's just 27:29.920 --> 27:37.680 you know a few more um slides of of the proposed areas that we're looking at um 27:38.480 --> 27:47.760 and then you know on top of it this all kind of stems from the agricultural land at the north of 27:47.760 --> 27:53.840 of bertuit hills and i was concerned when i first heard about that development that is starting to 27:53.840 --> 28:01.600 gain traction um in just north of bertuit hills i can't think of the the name of it right now but 28:02.160 --> 28:08.880 um they do have once that development goes in there's going to be a stormwater management 28:08.880 --> 28:13.600 plan that's really going to help reduce the water feeding into valley creek 28:15.040 --> 28:22.480 now this is you know nearly a two-mile span from there so you're still going to be collecting a 28:22.480 --> 28:28.800 lot of water coming in um throughout here so it's still important that this gets done but 28:29.520 --> 28:36.240 reducing a lot of water from the from the headwater um is going to really help too 28:37.360 --> 28:45.280 i'll show i've got some other larger pictures of proposed plans down at um veterans park that i 28:45.280 --> 28:56.400 can share with you can i interrupt for one moment so the edge of the stream where it goes into the 28:56.400 --> 29:04.320 lake if the houses are built and they have a stormwater management plan is there any chance 29:04.320 --> 29:10.880 that at the end there it goes into the lake it becomes more of a dry bed or more of a trickle 29:10.880 --> 29:19.520 depending on rain so are you saying like like down when it hits the lake well in that in veterans 29:19.520 --> 29:25.920 park where we plan on having it exposed yeah i i don't think that it's going to be a heavy flow 29:26.720 --> 29:31.520 and it right now i mean it isn't either right if you go look at it right now like 29:32.240 --> 29:40.400 so but if it's even reduced more because of the length of the stream might it diminish the issue 29:40.400 --> 29:48.640 i would say that there's still there's still going to be it's more that stormwater management 29:48.640 --> 29:53.520 is going to kick in when you have a heavy heavy rain flow that it's that you're not going to get 29:53.520 --> 30:02.800 hit you're still getting all the same water collecting during normal periods it's during those 30:03.840 --> 30:11.920 high storms high flashy events that it's going to reduce heavy rain but um you know how i don't know 30:11.920 --> 30:17.040 how much water is moving through there on a regular basis okay just because it's closed and 30:17.600 --> 30:24.880 um but i i would say that it's it's not going to be like a deep river going through there it'll be 30:24.880 --> 30:36.240 it'll be low so to give you um an idea here um this is one of the the concept ideas of 30:37.440 --> 30:45.600 veterans park it would be so right now if you can see my cursor over here um right now we have 30:45.600 --> 30:51.520 this whole parking lot you know with we've got the slanted stalls here 30:53.120 --> 31:01.280 and then we've got two-sided parking coming over here this would be reduced to a walking path 31:01.280 --> 31:07.120 going through those two red lines would be the walking path and then we would have parking coming 31:07.120 --> 31:12.160 out onto Lake Street at the base of the hill there would be a small gap there 31:12.720 --> 31:20.320 um and i think this you know they're still working on this then where we do have the asphalt pad 31:20.320 --> 31:28.960 over here that would be increased in size um because this would be opened up over here where we have 31:28.960 --> 31:37.840 the playground um we would remove the playground then we'd be looking at adding a smaller footprint 31:37.840 --> 31:42.880 of a playground um i've been looking at some different options for that they have some 31:42.880 --> 31:50.080 taller slide options um it would be a smaller but you would you would still have you know close to 31:50.080 --> 31:57.520 the same amount of amenities it would just be more of an upright piece there's some ash trees that 31:57.520 --> 32:03.760 over here that we've been treating but they're not they're not in great shape um so we would put 32:03.760 --> 32:13.040 them over right now they have this placed on the on top of the tent um but this is still 32:14.480 --> 32:21.040 you know concept um plans and not a hundred percent but that's that's where i would look at 32:21.040 --> 32:29.120 moving shifting that that playground over to um so that still allow the tents to go up um you still 32:29.120 --> 32:38.000 have parking over here um and i think the way they had it you were at close to even or um 32:39.360 --> 32:42.720 maybe a couple of spots lost with the change 32:46.640 --> 32:53.520 there wouldn't be an ability or a reason why they couldn't put it like on the that top parking 32:53.520 --> 32:59.280 map by the striped tent to the right of that where there's that big opening between the two 32:59.280 --> 33:04.880 buildings you you couldn't put it in there about right right above there keep going a little bit 33:04.880 --> 33:11.920 right in there yes the playground yes because the bathrooms are right there people with children 33:11.920 --> 33:16.960 they would be away from the road they'd be away from the stream they would be away from in front of 33:17.680 --> 33:24.320 the yacht club they would be yeah i can say i mean we have those we do have those 33:26.240 --> 33:35.120 trees all in there um but i don't think they're i'll take a look at that um i know we have those 33:35.120 --> 33:41.600 those conifer trees in there but um there might be a way for for that to work too 33:41.600 --> 33:49.040 um it just seems like a safer place yeah where's the ban shell 33:52.640 --> 34:00.400 yeah the ban shell wait oh is this the no i'm confused um 34:02.400 --> 34:10.480 right here yeah it is yeah this is the ban shell and then we shift to the right these are the 34:10.560 --> 34:17.120 evergreens this is the spot you're talking about yeah i'm sorry that that looked like open space 34:17.840 --> 34:27.280 just from the the grainy sorry all of the parking um currently right through there that's all 34:27.280 --> 34:34.240 going to be gone is that what you're saying this so this red double red line would be the new walking 34:34.240 --> 34:39.280 path right this would all be regraded because right now you have the walking path and then you've 34:39.360 --> 34:46.160 got a steep cut off right that goes down here so this would all be removed okay and regraded 34:47.200 --> 34:52.880 to a gentle slope and then you'd have your walking path so then you would have 34:54.480 --> 35:00.160 one row of parking okay all the way through that you would access from lake street got it 35:00.800 --> 35:06.560 my understanding is that same number of parking spaces what has changed is that those 10 35:07.120 --> 35:13.680 15 spaces that were extra long for yeah trailers that's what we will lose okay and i think they 35:13.680 --> 35:17.840 might have said now that we might actually have two fewer parking spaces or something like that 35:17.840 --> 35:23.280 because they were yeah there were a couple that were they were concerned about and then right where if 35:23.840 --> 35:30.160 it comes somebody's coming down the hill and from my understanding there may be an opportunity to do 35:30.160 --> 35:37.600 trailer parking behind the in the county parking lot which would be the same distance 35:39.440 --> 35:46.640 because that parking lot is generally empty yeah all we can for sure it was actually i think we 35:46.640 --> 35:54.560 counted it was like 180 feet they were both about the same distance to the marina but i'll take a 35:54.560 --> 36:00.720 look at that space between there and see if there would be enough room 36:03.840 --> 36:09.040 to put that in there and the reason you're doing the relocation of playground is that 36:10.240 --> 36:19.200 I bred that yeah because that that is pretty much right over the the playground is right over the 36:19.200 --> 36:25.280 culvert right now okay or just to the south of it okay 36:36.320 --> 36:42.160 so what did you when you that was open yeah oh okay 36:43.760 --> 36:46.080 okay 36:49.200 --> 36:59.120 so yeah and you know as a yeah when do you hope to have it completed 37:01.840 --> 37:07.760 that's going to depend on on the funding okay and where are we with funding like 50 percent 37:11.280 --> 37:16.800 that's a good question now it's i know they're i think it's going to council next 37:19.520 --> 37:26.560 next week i came through came through public works last didn't yeah i was voted on at public 37:26.560 --> 37:32.640 works so i i believe it's on the agenda for for next week okay and i know i know you said 37:32.640 --> 37:44.240 tami baldwin supports that how just like with yay good job or behind you or something yeah i don't 37:45.200 --> 37:51.520 as i said i you know when they they came they visited i don't know yeah as far as i know that's 37:51.520 --> 37:56.320 how it started i'm not gonna sugar going no that's okay i'm just wondering i mean is there funding 37:56.320 --> 38:01.680 that she's working on yeah there was there were some grants that she was kind of she helped us with 38:01.680 --> 38:08.880 yeah i think okay rob might have the rob rob rob was going to lead on this i just i wanted to bring 38:08.880 --> 38:14.640 it to the attention of the park or just because you know it's going to be affecting one of our 38:14.640 --> 38:21.600 parks so that's that's where i came in but um you know i'll likely be a little bit more involved 38:22.480 --> 38:30.000 now is the park um the playground equipment able to be reused or is it seen better days it's 38:30.320 --> 38:39.840 it's over 20 years old now oh wow okay all right so there is and once you i did we did an 38:39.840 --> 38:46.960 inspection on it um we do full inspections we do a full inspection with our insurance every three 38:46.960 --> 38:56.560 years but we also do staff inspections annually and um there's it's it's getting to the point where 38:56.560 --> 39:01.680 you know some of those plastic pieces they're not replaceable either and you can't 39:02.560 --> 39:07.120 you can't make any adjustments to playground equipment like they're very strict about that 39:07.120 --> 39:15.360 like if uh swing fails i can't go it has to be that specific swing for that um we've had some 39:15.360 --> 39:20.080 issues with that where i've had to take just swing sets down because i can't replace the swing 39:20.160 --> 39:27.200 because they stop making it and you know oftentimes you know that'll be the case when something's 39:27.200 --> 39:34.400 20 years old okay so yeah i don't think there's there's much that can be done with the playground 39:34.400 --> 39:38.880 um and they're buried in really heavy footings so by the time you 39:41.280 --> 39:46.880 start trying to move it you're you're almost you're better off and and they do have um the 39:46.960 --> 39:53.200 technology with these um playgrounds is really increased so you can do a much smaller footprint 39:54.000 --> 40:00.000 um you know and since then possibly playground has went in so this playground really doesn't get 40:00.000 --> 40:06.400 used that heavy the main the main time that it's used is when we do have festivals or music 40:06.400 --> 40:13.600 bring their kids down and give them a chance to play and it's it's almost i guess it's just my 40:13.600 --> 40:20.080 opinion you know if you are watching an event at the band shell if you could have the playground 40:20.080 --> 40:25.600 in front of you instead of behind you you know because the kids are playing back here as my 40:25.600 --> 40:31.200 experience do remember going there and i'm like oh my god where's my kid and i find him like he's 40:31.200 --> 40:41.920 in the slide but you need a thought is you know are they by the lake um so yeah but not over 40:41.920 --> 40:52.560 yeah good yeah so i mean there there may be i'll look into um because i'm always open 40:52.560 --> 40:58.640 and suggestions for these things and this is you know this has been very fluid so a lot of this is 40:59.280 --> 41:04.160 is you know just kind of coming with these concept designs 41:04.560 --> 41:15.760 so any other questions with with this um again this will be going to discuss more at council that 41:15.760 --> 41:25.040 they might have a little bit more information to answer to if you come to the council but jane i 41:25.040 --> 41:28.880 think i think that's a good question i'll make sure we get an answer to we'll ask that question at 41:28.880 --> 41:34.800 council about uh what percentage of the funding we have now and maybe a timeline 41:38.160 --> 41:42.640 are you done with your presentation can i do a couple follow up questions on this yeah okay 41:42.640 --> 41:48.000 well it just it's what the things we've talked about um so you talked about a community activity 41:48.000 --> 41:54.240 director that's a new position it's replacing a position but a new title yes okay it's replacing 41:54.240 --> 42:04.320 the recreation program manager and has that been posted filled what's this that posted 42:04.320 --> 42:10.320 interviewed that's the one that we're down to two candidates for okay sorry i missed that yeah 42:10.320 --> 42:14.480 that's right i said we've narrowed down to two candidates we'll be making a decision by the 42:14.480 --> 42:19.520 end of the week okay and then i agree with jane about the follow up on the evaluations if it's 42:19.520 --> 42:24.320 electronic and it was previously done in paper form statistically you always get a 42:24.320 --> 42:29.760 low response in paper yeah um and my my guess is that may have been what was going on in the past 42:29.760 --> 42:36.320 yeah um how has i noticed that you talked about like lots of t-ball registration now that we've 42:36.320 --> 42:41.440 gone to electronic registration they're finding the site no one's been calling about not being 42:41.440 --> 42:46.640 able to find it because i know you gave us a demonstration on that there everyone seems to be 42:46.640 --> 42:54.480 okay with that yeah i i don't know maybe zia i can lean on you a little bit if you've gotten 42:54.480 --> 43:06.320 feedback um but from my gathering i haven't gotten um calls or concerns as much i was wanting and i 43:06.320 --> 43:11.760 think that you helped me out with it but i was trying to get on the site just to gather information 43:11.760 --> 43:20.320 about gymnastics for three-year-olds and i couldn't do it it was you just it one not pop up i couldn't 43:20.320 --> 43:27.440 i'm just like so i finally called you um then when i went back on because it's you know you get 43:27.440 --> 43:34.160 this message and it says click here for registration while though i couldn't even find the gymnastics 43:34.160 --> 43:42.320 for little people i i i'm thinking i'm thinking that the website's not super easy to navigate 43:43.520 --> 43:52.560 i i i just don't think it is maybe it was just that particular time because it won't even come up 43:52.560 --> 43:58.960 gymnastics it went right to use sports and then there was no category for for gymnastics and younger 43:59.040 --> 44:07.360 kids um but then when i went on it like a number of days later i was able to find it so i don't 44:07.360 --> 44:16.080 know if it was just glitchy that day or what but but it's it's a touch frustrating yeah i i don't know 44:16.080 --> 44:23.760 if it's i know when you you google it and we kind of went through that 44:24.640 --> 44:32.400 once you're out of once you're in direct desk which is that do we do this as a committee or did 44:32.400 --> 44:38.320 you do that when when did we do this we did it here yeah it was right before you came up oh okay okay 44:38.320 --> 44:46.400 and we added some tabs to try to make it but it it's a little bit and we're a little bit limited 44:46.480 --> 44:55.840 because rec desk is the software that we use for and we've searched all avenues of how we can make 44:55.840 --> 45:03.440 that as user-friendly okay unless we are to change the whole platform which i could certainly look 45:03.440 --> 45:11.520 into but that would be a process and um i i don't know we i don't think we've been getting a lot of 45:12.000 --> 45:17.760 complaints on it from that's great or you know maybe people are stopping in too to register i 45:17.760 --> 45:23.280 don't know if people stopping in person or we don't have a zombie site out there yet do we i mean 45:23.280 --> 45:28.960 because i know sometimes it's hard to take old sites down no i've had i haven't had it with the 45:28.960 --> 45:32.400 port thing but i've had a couple things where i was looking for something i found myself on a site that 45:32.960 --> 45:40.240 wasn't really operating anymore but it's it still shows up on your searches we shouldn't and i don't 45:40.320 --> 45:47.760 know if you've been getting any kind of because we had she said roughly $7,500 worth of registration 45:47.760 --> 45:52.640 comes through on the first day and i don't know if you've been getting feedback on complaints or 45:55.760 --> 45:58.320 can you maybe use the mic just in case yeah 46:02.320 --> 46:07.600 we had two calls today but they were new they've never worked the program before so they were new 46:07.680 --> 46:12.800 to the program and after walking them through that it was pretty simple i think they just missed a 46:12.800 --> 46:20.560 tab or two for that and then the about the old websites that weren't active anymore we do have 46:20.560 --> 46:28.240 a parks and rec website that is still that is still active but it's not city it's not run through the 46:28.240 --> 46:35.920 city it was from the last time it was active for probably 2016 and because we don't have any 46:36.000 --> 46:41.920 management rights over it we can't kill it ask them to take it down if it was obviously yeah 46:42.640 --> 46:50.960 yeah okay but overall you feel like it's worked out better and because no are you full time with 46:50.960 --> 46:57.600 park and recs because there's another position that's halftime or is that you i'm full time with it 46:57.600 --> 47:05.600 so i'm here money through friday eight to four i do most of the registrations i'm at city hall so 47:05.600 --> 47:11.920 when people do come in for in-person registrations i take them in as well okay and then but there is 47:11.920 --> 47:18.480 another part time that's shared with senior center that's the that's the position the pool 47:19.680 --> 47:25.680 that's the position that we're hiring for that was the program manager oh okay so the program 47:25.680 --> 47:32.240 manager's position which is now community activity supervisor is is the title um we'll oversee the 47:32.240 --> 47:39.280 pool um we'll be Zai's role is administrative assistant so she's handling you know all the 47:39.280 --> 47:44.880 registration everything feedback like that program manager is going to be more involved with running 47:44.880 --> 47:51.440 the programs um overseeing the pool and then also working with the senior center outside of the 47:51.440 --> 47:57.440 pool hours so that that's where that and that's a part-time position that's also full time oh that's 47:57.520 --> 48:03.360 full time but it's split among different departments got it yeah split between the senior center and 48:03.360 --> 48:11.440 the so i have another pool question sorry to be that's okay i'm a tevby downer but when the pool 48:13.200 --> 48:17.440 when people want to do lap swimming like i know many people like to go early in the morning and 48:17.440 --> 48:24.800 they get there and it's closed and it's like how can we get the word out when the when the pool is 48:24.880 --> 48:32.640 closed um i understand of course with weather that's just common sense but there've been times 48:32.640 --> 48:38.240 where you know it's not we had two times last year that a kid overslapped that 48:40.560 --> 48:49.360 i can see that happening in part and part of the and trust me because i used to swim a lot in the 48:49.360 --> 48:55.920 mornings and if you build up enough courage to get yourself up and go swimming before work and you 48:55.920 --> 49:10.240 get there so i agree with the frustration on that um we do if the temperature is below i i think 49:10.240 --> 49:19.280 we were gonna post it that we're in conjunction with all the other area pools it's auto is 49:19.360 --> 49:26.960 67 degrees and it was a recommendation by the by the state then we close but we'll post that 49:27.680 --> 49:35.680 on where on our website okay on the park and back or on the website it's usually we usually 49:35.680 --> 49:42.000 post it on social media so if you follow us on facebook and instagram we do have a pirate's 49:42.000 --> 49:49.680 hollow page and we usually update it there do you know about that but i think for many people 49:49.680 --> 49:54.800 they are not on you know people aren't on social media i think we need to have it in another 49:54.800 --> 49:59.280 location as well was there i mean if they're not on social media usually this decision 49:59.280 --> 50:06.080 happens right away so i don't know how you could get it to them i i don't i don't i mean so you 50:06.080 --> 50:12.400 post it on i mean can you just post it on the website not part of social media that people 50:12.400 --> 50:17.280 i don't know i'm just saying yeah you know what you know how frustrating it is no i know but i mean 50:17.280 --> 50:23.920 it's just like how can we improve the ability to if it's if it's if it's a reason for being 50:23.920 --> 50:31.280 too cold that we close i i don't know yeah i guess if you look on 50:31.840 --> 50:39.120 i think social media is is probably your best bet i think we're going to get the strongest 50:39.120 --> 50:48.160 for instant results so social media pirates hollow okay i'm trying i can't get it to come up 50:53.760 --> 50:54.400 okay well 50:55.120 --> 51:04.560 well anyway i so now i got it okay so now i have a couple more questions so i had asked for a budget 51:04.560 --> 51:11.360 line it's still not included but i noticed that's still part of the charter that we're supposed to be 51:11.360 --> 51:17.440 monitoring the budget but if we don't ever see the budget how are we to monitor so i i did talk with 51:18.080 --> 51:24.320 mark the finance director about that and i will include that in our next one because it'll be 51:25.280 --> 51:29.600 he doesn't he hasn't put out the first quarter budget yet i would have brought it to this one but 51:29.600 --> 51:37.600 he posted the quarterly budget so he doesn't ever do monthly no he does it quarterly 51:40.000 --> 51:47.040 okay okay so at the next meeting i'll i'll have it on there okay and last question for me hopefully 51:47.040 --> 51:53.040 tonight update on the elephant slide slash sign 51:56.720 --> 52:01.120 elephant park elephant park the slide was taken away 52:04.240 --> 52:10.080 yeah it's done it's been refurbished it's at the shop um we'll put it we have to put our trees in 52:10.080 --> 52:17.040 first because they'll die if i don't get them in um the elephant will forever live you know so 52:18.720 --> 52:20.400 we will be putting it up this spring 52:22.320 --> 52:22.560 yep 52:24.720 --> 52:31.360 i did find pyretala wallop water park on on instagram i didn't look on i didn't look on facebook yet but 52:31.360 --> 52:36.880 i did find it on instagram yeah and i don't know i mean maybe um 52:37.440 --> 52:45.520 um maybe maybe we make some kind of of post that just letting letting people know in advance like 52:45.520 --> 52:52.640 just so you know if we reach this temperature you know be prepared we'll we'll be closing the pool 52:52.640 --> 53:02.400 especially if you know like this week is going to be especially cold reminder we close about 67 53:03.360 --> 53:07.040 degrees yeah we could even maybe post that right the way of the lap lanes 53:08.320 --> 53:14.000 i mean as a sign just at the entrance to the pool yeah yeah yeah and i obviously if someone 53:14.000 --> 53:20.160 oversleep you know yeah yeah i yeah well part of the thing that 53:23.120 --> 53:30.400 well it's it's the kids but part of the part of the um new full-time position is they're they're 53:30.480 --> 53:36.240 going to be coming in in the mornings too so that should correct that because that was one of the 53:36.240 --> 53:42.000 things that really bothered me i didn't like the fact that we're relying on because it was it was 53:42.000 --> 53:49.200 tricky for me because parks opens up six thirty so i get that crew going and then i come over to the 53:49.200 --> 53:56.480 pool so um you know i get i get all the park staff going and i come over to the pool and that happened 53:56.480 --> 54:02.960 twice last year where i come over and oh my god nobody's here and there was some very unhappy 54:03.920 --> 54:12.320 lap swimmers um so that's uh those are all things i'm glad that i i like really like the feedback 54:12.320 --> 54:17.600 because it helps it helps us um adjust things um 54:23.200 --> 54:34.960 and then lastly um we have the our our charter that will be presented at not this upcoming it's 54:34.960 --> 54:46.240 the next council meeting um so last year i i or um no alderman gasper yeah he's sorry they 54:46.240 --> 54:55.920 would like to have um the chair read it you will be i should be out of office by then i i could come 54:55.920 --> 55:02.560 to that meeting just as the former chair of the but i don't know if that i i'd i'd want to run 55:02.560 --> 55:06.240 that by the mayor and yeah i don't i don't think you can read it so 55:11.280 --> 55:18.400 so we'd be looking for someone to read the the charter at council not actually read the whole 55:18.400 --> 55:25.360 charter right highlight the highlights of it these were the pictures i was looking for before 55:26.320 --> 55:31.520 it was just the forestry crew um that was part of the windstorm jackson street 55:33.680 --> 55:38.320 and then again taking down larger ash tree with our spider lift 55:40.640 --> 55:44.480 since since you're showing that and i promised no more questions i was mistaken 55:46.240 --> 55:52.960 so the area in our triangle park is where we have our christmas tree our holiday tree oh yes 55:53.040 --> 55:59.040 so that property that's just to the west of that is that private property or is that city-owned 55:59.040 --> 56:05.440 property little of both because i was wondering all those down trees in there are we ever going to 56:05.440 --> 56:09.280 if that's our property are we ever going to do anything we go through there on 56:11.200 --> 56:15.760 well it's it's every every few years where it builds up we'll take stuff out of there i did have 56:15.760 --> 56:22.720 the guys there was two larger down trees in there um and they they've got them down to the 56:22.720 --> 56:26.560 ground at least they were both hung up maybe that's what you were seeing like there was 56:26.560 --> 56:31.040 two that were hung up they're pretty bad we did get those on the ground time permits we'll get 56:31.040 --> 56:37.680 those out of there um but i i would say probably every two years we go through because a lot of 56:37.680 --> 56:44.960 those you know just end up falling but um our property kind of down by the christmas tree that's 56:44.960 --> 56:50.240 all ours going up that hillside but then as you go up the hill it shifts into the apartments 56:50.800 --> 56:56.480 and then everything on jacks and street side we only own about 15 feet from the sidewalks so 56:56.480 --> 57:02.160 that's all um theirs but i did meet with a couple of residents last week and they're going to be 57:02.160 --> 57:10.160 doing some work there to um remove some of the down trees so going up the hill to upper lake park 57:10.160 --> 57:17.280 those the integrity of those trees it's scary because they are just really leaning yeah so 57:17.280 --> 57:22.960 i think about three years ago we went through and and took out some of the larger cottonwoods 57:22.960 --> 57:28.560 there's two more in there that i have scheduled to take out oh to take out yeah i've been watching 57:28.560 --> 57:34.800 them i think your husband actually um sent me an email oh um a while back okay 57:35.680 --> 57:41.760 yeah so subconsciously he might have said something yeah i don't know what i mean 57:41.760 --> 57:48.480 like we um i drove up there and it's like oh my gosh a big windstorm is that actually they haven't 57:48.480 --> 57:54.720 moved there's there's two cottonwoods that i left in there and i really like the canopy i know it's 57:54.720 --> 58:02.400 goes over so you want but they are getting to a point where i don't it's not i wouldn't say it's 58:02.480 --> 58:08.000 at a level of risk that i'm concerned about right now because i do watch and see if there's any 58:08.000 --> 58:15.040 movement on that root plate behind there and they're they're solid um but i can't say nothing you 58:15.040 --> 58:22.160 know you never know if you had three heavy days of rain and then a heavy windstorm like anything 58:22.160 --> 58:28.240 can happen so um those are slated i've got them on the board to take down okay well i'll tell 58:28.720 --> 58:33.920 my house back yeah so he'll he'll see they'll they'll come down i think there's there's two more 58:33.920 --> 58:39.440 possibly a third that we'll we'll take out of there and just to just a point of interest on that is 58:39.440 --> 58:45.360 when we did take those down a few years back there were numerous complaints i may i just you know 58:45.360 --> 58:50.000 you can't win i i understand that and they clearly needed to come down they were dangerous yeah 58:50.000 --> 58:54.320 yeah i was trying to find anytime we cut a tree it's like oh yeah end of the world you're trying to 58:54.320 --> 59:00.800 find a balance and i'm definitely one obviously that um tries to preserve the the trees the best 59:00.800 --> 59:08.960 we can and oh that's good so but but those um when it becomes a level of risk that we don't want to 59:08.960 --> 59:13.200 take we'll we'll take them down yeah and i was just wondering what that level of risk was 59:13.760 --> 59:19.360 you think it's pretty good pretty good yet for the most part it's not it doesn't even have me 59:19.360 --> 59:27.040 concerned right now okay it's just the size of them okay i do have one words the question what does 59:27.040 --> 59:33.840 concern you i have another question i want to know like the planters on the streets when do those 59:33.840 --> 59:43.840 get planted and who i know yvonne right does she plant them is is she the person who chooses 59:43.840 --> 59:51.360 everything to go in the planters or how does that work she we have been shifting more and more that 59:51.360 --> 59:56.880 she's doing a little bit more of the designing she works with a nursery okay so some of them 59:57.680 --> 01:00:06.240 are a little bit more shade so um yeah i just uh i think we have the designs laid out um 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:12.720 i think that was just wrapping up this last week so those will go in not for a little while yeah 01:00:12.720 --> 01:00:19.840 right in right in bold yeah but once weather permits they'll okay all right 01:00:25.520 --> 01:00:32.320 so yeah this is um i just have to have the charter up but um and it goes through the highlights 01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:40.560 and everything so i can um provide that before the the next let me we should discuss that mary 01:00:40.560 --> 01:00:45.520 lou would you be willing to do that to be you're the only alderman on the uh on this 01:00:45.520 --> 01:00:51.040 committee other me so i'd be happy to be you'd be the natural one i think unless you come back as 01:00:51.040 --> 01:00:53.840 uh well then i'm still not the chairman i'm not 01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:04.080 is jim mccarle still on that um this his name's not listed he stepped down oh okay well that's 01:01:04.080 --> 01:01:08.400 too which is too bad because he was very yeah very good for many years many years many years 01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:14.640 can i just include in there that so we'll need a secretary as well for the board 01:01:15.520 --> 01:01:21.200 because he did step down so think about that before the next meeting 01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:27.520 do you want me out what do we need to get some people 01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:34.080 why do we need a secretary for jim carls was a secretary oh so our board has an official 01:01:34.160 --> 01:01:40.800 secretary compared to other boards so we need that spot needs to be filled in in addition to 01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:47.440 the chairperson so we need a chairperson and a secretary yes correct we have and i will say jim 01:01:49.200 --> 01:01:55.040 jim did probably the best job on minutes i mean the most thorough job on minutes of 01:01:55.040 --> 01:01:59.920 of any committee that i've ever been involved with he was he was really very thorough he was 01:02:00.560 --> 01:02:03.760 i used to be amazed by the amount of detail he got into those 01:02:07.120 --> 01:02:11.200 not that i think anyone who gets the job has to be quite as thorough as he was 01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:15.520 let's say don't count on me because i did part minutes and there there's nothing in there 01:02:19.120 --> 01:02:25.120 okay do you want anything else john you want to go over or with us what's that so mary lu's going 01:02:25.200 --> 01:02:33.120 to do the uh she'll do the presentation for the council at the council and but do you want to 01:02:33.120 --> 01:02:40.320 kind of go over any other highlights or yeah i've seen this somewhat before um well this is the 01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:48.640 same that i presented um i think uh an last meeting was was at the last meeting so i haven't changed 01:02:48.640 --> 01:02:55.760 anything on here um prior to the council if you want to talk with me about it if you 01:02:57.200 --> 01:03:04.560 okay we can we can go over anything but it's pretty straightforward um my understanding 01:03:04.560 --> 01:03:08.480 the council is just looking for an overview of this and 01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:18.640 um so what's that i i don't have anything more okay yes there's any more questions 01:03:19.600 --> 01:03:24.720 okay so if you have any more questions here's a good time to ask just and the questions are 01:03:24.720 --> 01:03:30.000 all fine i never feel like you have to as far as i'm concerned the the old idea the only stupid 01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:35.440 question is the one you didn't ask you know so there's two alderman on the committee will that 01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:41.200 will another alderman be replaced i don't know there's a it the if you look at the charter it 01:03:41.200 --> 01:03:47.360 only requires one alderman okay but i we've i think we've had two for quite a number of years 01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:57.440 no maybe maybe it does now position was was coming to to park and rain i don't that's you know that's 01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:02.960 that's called and okay i haven't talked with him about it but it's you mean the person who's going 01:04:03.200 --> 01:04:09.840 yeah i thought i i guess maybe i'm mistaken but i thought that they were automatically coming 01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:15.920 to this you may be you may be right but it is it is Ted's call so you know he's 01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:22.960 everyone serves it his be his um okay so we'll go to public comments and appearances and this is 01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:31.760 your one shot and i did want to just say that i you know this is my last meeting uh with this 01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:40.720 committee and i wanted to thank you know mary lu and jane and wane and uh dan and also uh and 01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:46.720 we just talked about him on gem because uh for the help that they've given me over the years 01:04:46.720 --> 01:04:53.600 i wanted to thank john for uh his uh you know his leadership and filling me in on a lot of things 01:04:53.600 --> 01:04:58.160 in zai i think you've done a great job since you came on board and it really helped us out uh 01:04:58.160 --> 01:05:03.680 this is a this has been kind it's kind of a fun committee to be on i am hoping that maybe i 01:05:03.680 --> 01:05:10.720 will be able to come back to it as a citizen number but uh thanks you all and uh and like uh in the 01:05:10.720 --> 01:05:17.600 park and recreate and the friends of park and recreation too for uh their support and uh guess 01:05:17.600 --> 01:05:24.080 that's really all i had um any you know thank you pat for your service we really do appreciate 01:05:24.080 --> 01:05:29.520 everything that you've given to the community and to this group here thank you thank you 01:05:31.040 --> 01:05:33.520 all right so i guess we will look for a motion to adjourn 01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:37.200 a motion to adjourn have a motion do i have a second 01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:43.920 motion and seconded to adjourn all in favor say aye aye opposed