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The park and recreation board uh it's been properly noticed and we'll show that uh right now

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members Dan Ross and Wayne Cruciella aren't here but that we do have a quorum with the three

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members that we have. First order of business is to approve minutes of the previous meeting.

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I'll make the motion to approve.

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In the motion do we have a second?

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Okay any questions about the motion? All in favor please say aye.

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Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. The minutes are approved. Uh public comments and appearances.

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We don't have any anyone in the public right now uh so we'll let that go. We'll move on to

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chairperson's business. I do have a couple of things I want to say but I think I will

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I would like to hold those until the end of the meeting. Um so we'll move on to members liaisons

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business uh do either of you have something that you would like to mention or bring up at this time.

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It's not required but it's an opportunity.

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Okay so we'll move on to the director of parks, recreation and forestry. John you're on.

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Yes we did.

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Okay um first off I do want to thank Patrick for his service

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with the park and rec for how long have you been on? Yeah

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Well we're going to miss you and we really hope you come back as a citizen.

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It looks like that may be in the work so um so but I just wanted to say thank you I always

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appreciate your support over the years and your ideas. Um okay so uh we got a few things on here

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that I'd like to go through. I'm connected here I don't know why I'm not.

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It's uh it's coming up. It's just not I'm there we go. Okay.

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Um okay um starting off with uh we'll go through the recreation update.

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Our spring gymnastics have started. There will be starting in mid-April.

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We do have a lot of registration that's been happening with that. It's always been a successful

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program. Baseball um we've I think we are at one um one player pitch for sling pitch

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and um a lot of T-ball. So we've got a lot of T-ball has been very popular. Our registration

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opened up this morning um had over 7500 in revenue on registration on the first day so that's

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exciting. People are catching on and um paying attention when we when we post this stuff.

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Um on the pool pool update um opening day will be June 12th um we'll be filling the pool beginning

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of May. That's always tricky. I can't give a date on that. Every year we do have a restoration

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done on the pool basin but prior to that the groundwater has to settle enough that it's not

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seeping through the cracks. Um one of the things with that pool is every winter depending on

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what type of winter we have. If we have a really a lot of extreme cold and temperature changes

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we often end up with um cracks in the pool and we have to bring in. It's budgeted every year that

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we have uh restoration company come in and and do tuck pointing and uh fill in a lot of the cracks

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and unfortunately this past year was pretty rough on it. Um pool passes did open up. I'm not sure

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where we're at on those yet. Um the theater update we do have Madagascar coming up on May 1st and

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2nd and then our summer production is going to be the hunchback of Notre Notre Dame and

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that is going to be the last production under the recreation department. Um I'm not sure if I brought

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this up in the past that we were in talks with the school. The way that it operates

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um we use the school facilities. There's staff um from the school that works on our

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there's a lot of overlap and back and forth so we started discussing with the school

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could this be an opportunity to keep theater going and they're better suited with their staff

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to keep it running and and run it with their um fund 80 to help support it. So after the summer

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production theater will be shifting under the school system. Um and I'm gonna say you know that's

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one of the things that we're trying to work on more is more collaboration with the school and

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um I've had talks with um there I'm not sure his title but um that that runs all the outside

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programs to make sure that we're not overlapping and that we're running programs you know because

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we're a small community it doesn't make sense for us to compete. So that's one of the things that

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you know we've looked at um it's going to be better suited to run under the school. So it's

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not going away it's it's still here for the community it's just going to be run under the

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school and that same goes with um the safety town program um that was also under recreation

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but what it is is you're preparing kids a lot you know to be in the school so we would operate

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the safety town in the school with the school resource officer. So again it's you know it's

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it's better shifted under the school. Um moving on to our our park and forestry update

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we um we had a very successful year on our pruning um and and removals were just wrapping up.

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And the nice thing is um we were able to secure a grant this last year a DNR urban

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forestry grant that helps cover a lot of the operating costs that just got done submitting

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that grant um we pruned over a thousand trees um we did a lot of training in there we had some

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new guys from the street department um it was really well exciting for me probably not exciting

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as much for them with the pruning but um they're starting to really see the effects of of what

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we're doing um you know a good case and point was that windstorm we were just talking about came

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through and we had nearly 70 mile an hour winds we really only had three trees that

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caused major damage and I and I think back to when I had first started here we we would when

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we got storms we would get a lot of uh you're really starting to see a turn with a lot less

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damage um when things are properly taken care of um so we are out stump grinding right now and

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the um we'll start digging holes next week and the planting um our spring planting trees for the

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street trees will be planting roughly a hundred street trees we did have some some photos of the

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guys we did some pruning up at Colbach Park I mean a lot of overgrown invasives in there

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um this is uh the middle pictures I'm not showing up no am I

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yeah shouldn't this just be sharing my screen though

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okay yeah I guess I assumed this was coming off your computer but it is but it's not actually

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what you wanted right at this point well I'll see if I can I'll see if I can pull those

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okay well I can I can pull up the pictures after I go through um

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staff hiring update um summer staff we're getting a lot of positions coming in

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um as I and I were just kind of working through the the pool staff and um where we are

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where we're at on that um so I'm gonna start interviewing the seasonal positions for the pool

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as early as next week the rec supervisor position to replace um Beth who has been gone for a few weeks

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now we're down to two very strong candidates very happy with both it's a tough decision

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but we'll be narrowing that down this week we do have an aquatics coordinator

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slash head guard that's just more of a management position to help with the pool so

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the good news is we're in we're in a good position with the pool it was

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um you know it's a it's a very uh labor intensive uh program I guess um throughout the whole

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summer so I think we have almost 40's um seasonal staff there so um the confident we're going to

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have a good year there will be some some new faces but they have backgrounds in pool and um we do

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have a lot of returning staff um then I can go into I'd like to go into a little bit of that

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could I just I wanted to ask a couple of questions about these before we move maybe move on into

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those things uh one thing on on the pool update and I'm kind of passing on a concern or a question

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that was asked me by a constituent are we do we go when we before we put the stuff out the the

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chairs and this kind of thing do we kind of go over those and maybe get rid of ones that are not

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or maybe test them to make sure that they're yeah going to be able to carry weight and

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everything like that and get rid of any that are torn and yeah we we go through and may um

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I'm probably going to get a little bit more involved with that this year um I noticed last

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year we did have some chairs that ended up and we did go through and we had to remove a lot of

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the chairs but um we we have an opening day or a pool cleaning day with the entire staff

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mid-May where we put everything out go through everything wash everything down

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house all that um and then get everything set prior to our opening okay that's good and then

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do we periodically kind of review I mean our staff like told you know keep an eye out for

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something that might happen so you know just so that we don't have something out there that

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somebody might sit down on and just yeah right to the ground or something so particularly if

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they're grandparents or something like that no anyone could get you know yeah we do and I did I'll

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be honest I did notice that um last year there was a few instances that I had to bring that back

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to attention that you can be a little bit more stern with that for that reason so that'll be

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definitely um close eye on and uh something that uh when you were talking about the pruning and

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this type of thing I wanted to ask uh is that is the reason is part of that the fact that you

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we get rid of all the dead stuff that's on there but also maybe thin out the canopy a little so

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it doesn't catch as much wind yeah you're structurally pruning to some part of the main

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thing is a lot of times they'll develop uh codominant stems um weak stems that can cause

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ultimately cause failure on the tree um in wind storms whatnot um yeah it does reduce wind load

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as well but um and then on top of that because of where the trees are we have to clear or raise

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them clearance pruning so there's there's several approaches um and the way we went out at this year

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is we in the beginning of the season we focused on structural pruning where we were able to spend

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a lot of the time and we did uh about 250 trees structurally pruned then we had to shift our

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focus more to clearance pruning into a lot more clearance pruning because you're not going through

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the whole trees but in this instance it's finding that balance to make sure we're getting both

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things done okay good thank you yes i have two questions how freak i don't know anything

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of relay about pool cleaning but how frequently is the bottom of the pool cleaned especially in

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the lap lanes so that should be done weekly where we have uh we've got a robot that goes in there and

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is that runs at night throughout the night and okay scrubs it um and then you know depending on

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um you know if there's need it is scrub too okay so i did notice last year that there was algae

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build up and again that was i'll take the blame for it but that was part of what the aquatics

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coordinator i was kind of leaning on they were returning it was my first time going through a

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season of the pool so i need to be more involved to make sure these things are getting done because

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once it gets beyond it's hard to go back right so it's something that really needs to be kept up

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on and it did get a little bit too far last year and it was hard to hard to get rid of

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once it's there okay the other question i have is we talked about um evaluations after like

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a soccer program or swimming lessons did we ever follow up with that at all so i did i did ask and

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what what i was told is that we were putting those out and getting little to no returns

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um so i don't i don't know it's something i can talk with zia about if we can add that in you know

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maybe um you know something that i work with with the last program manager and um she said that

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you know they try to this but it failed but i i think with this new it's it's going to be community

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activity supervisor is the title now um i would like to open that back up because i think

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there's ways to probably do it now that are automated and a little bit easier that you

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could get the feedback or maybe it was maybe it was just a form or something that people didn't

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right and i don't know if it was sent by how it was managed but i think it's important that we do

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that yeah i'm i'm very open to that so i i will um i will talk with the new community activity

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supervisor to yeah i know now and a lot of things kind of isn't just this but i i get a text that

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will ask me to evaluate something i get an email and and then i'll get reminders so i think you know

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that yeah it would be a maybe i think there's probably much easier ways now that we'll get um

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probably a much stronger response if it's easy for people

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and is it anonymous do you know that because some people if people have a concern or

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complaint they may not want i mean it's just human nature but they may not want their name

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associated with yeah negative comment or constructive i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know

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whenever somebody brings it up to me i i i really try to

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because i mean i'll get them a lot where it's just trees and um you know things like that or

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things in the park and the most part you know people are respectful about it and it's

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we can't see everything so right right um yeah i'm i'm open and i want to know so yeah i i think

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that's a great idea to have it um have it sent anonymous and then and then we'll we'll see and

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we can evaluate what kind of returns we're getting if we're getting people we'll keep it

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it i i don't think it's going to take much to do

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okay um what's that i'll i'll um i'll get a little bit of a overview of the

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uh let's see why okay okay that's what's going on is the presentation was overriding

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everything like you said down um so uh the valley creek corridor um we've been working

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with stan tech on this um this just kind of an overview and a bit of a presentation that they

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gave us so i'll piece through some of this um

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i'm not directly involved with all of it but i i do know a lot about it um and you know i've i've

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seen actions of this creek you know from from just from working for the city for the 15 years of of

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how flashy it can get in heavy rainstorms um we have made attempts over the years to to try and

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you know just open these things up but with our staff i i can recall a few years back we

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went in there when it was frozen with an excavator and a a crew of five for

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almost a month and we cleared it out but um i think with a couple of heavy rains by the next year

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you couldn't even tell we we touched anything um so it it was going to take something bigger um

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and you know we we have had you know a few flooding issues um so so valley creek stems all the way

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this is just a picture of uh this is about halfway between jacks and inhales trails of showing you

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what happens with that um bank it you know what happens here is it just keeps undercutting and

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what you're end up seeing in the future is as that keeps undercutting you're going to start having

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more major events where major collapses come in and then that starts changing the whole landscape

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um so um valley creek stems all the way up from birchwood hills um you know comes down through

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where areas that are affected that we have i mean other than we do have sanitary sewer and and

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you know other drains that come through there um but we have birchwood hills where it starts we

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have anton park our community gardens whitefish park upper lake park um gunther park

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and then north beach which isn't really effective but it just kind of give you a um relevance of

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where this is so um some of the things that you know is happening through here is different photos

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um you know they've tried with the heavy stone um heavy blocks um there it's nothing can stop

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if if you've ever seen what this creek looks like after a heavy rain it's it's continuously

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undercutting um the stabilization and then on top of it we've had all the

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ash trees that have went down there's several willow trees that have went in there

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you know it's just it's a recipe for just continued um failure on those those banks

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so the main focus is going to be the ecology

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funding primarily through grants um they're they're going to talk more about this at council

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um you know as i said this is um i'm not i'm not leading this but um there has been

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um 1.4 million so far in uh in grants um and working on the um stream design and i believe

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the final stream design is is coming up um in april

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so again um some of the goals uh restoration of the watershed improve water quality

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better public access um and resilient to two floods

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um give you an idea like um you know our culvert um we were talking about that earlier

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it's there's there's no way that that that culvert can handle the amount of water that comes through

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that that creek so um you know we are looking at opening that up and i've got some slides down

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further um in veterans park

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so there has been a lot of uh communication about this um we've we've had several uh input

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from from different avenues on this um again stantex is really leading the design on it

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but agencies involved um coastal management program the dnr um senator baldwin was here

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um visited and was very supportive of the project

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so we're always looking for different avenues and partnerships to to work with and i think

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this will really open it up if it's more accessible because right now it's it's it's not very accessible

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we do have the trails that go through there and the mountain bike trails but um there's a lot of

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steep banks and um it's just it's not i think there's an area of opportunity for it

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um it's all going to be nature based so when you look at what's down there's there's ways to

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there's ways to move and utilize a lot of that down down wood and um once you you find the the

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natural flow of that stream you're not going to have things as flashy and you're not going to have

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as much undercutting and um you you can create that that uh the banks to withstand those heavy

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heavy rain flows by opening up that um basin

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this kind of gives um you know a few ideas of of how that is you recreate um

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the basin that that it's not going to be is is sharp of banks

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just a few more slides on that um here's some examples of you know what we have and it's a lot

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a lot more aesthetic um and and healthier that you're not going to have uh these exposed pipes

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for drainage um this is the Walter Street ravine probably not you can see this if you look for it

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when you're when you're walking um up the creek that's that's to the west looking west i'm going

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towards Walter Street um these are just some bridge ideas these are again our concept designs

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um up by up by ant one you go with culvert or single span bridges

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but yeah to kind of give you an example you know just the pictures on the right of it's just a

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lot more attractive of

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i think i have a few other pictures that i can

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you should mention that we when during that open house we did have a pretty good turnout

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here with a lot i thought a lot of positive comments and and some good questions you know some it was

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i think in my opinion was one of the better uh presentations like that that we've had

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with good feedback and um yeah um there's been a lot of planning going into this so there's just

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you know a few more um slides of of the proposed areas that we're looking at um

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and then you know on top of it this all kind of stems from the agricultural land at the north of

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of bertuit hills and i was concerned when i first heard about that development that is starting to

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gain traction um in just north of bertuit hills i can't think of the the name of it right now but

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um they do have once that development goes in there's going to be a stormwater management

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plan that's really going to help reduce the water feeding into valley creek

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now this is you know nearly a two-mile span from there so you're still going to be collecting a

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lot of water coming in um throughout here so it's still important that this gets done but

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reducing a lot of water from the from the headwater um is going to really help too

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i'll show i've got some other larger pictures of proposed plans down at um veterans park that i

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can share with you can i interrupt for one moment so the edge of the stream where it goes into the

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lake if the houses are built and they have a stormwater management plan is there any chance

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that at the end there it goes into the lake it becomes more of a dry bed or more of a trickle

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depending on rain so are you saying like like down when it hits the lake well in that in veterans

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park where we plan on having it exposed yeah i i don't think that it's going to be a heavy flow

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and it right now i mean it isn't either right if you go look at it right now like

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so but if it's even reduced more because of the length of the stream might it diminish the issue

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i would say that there's still there's still going to be it's more that stormwater management

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is going to kick in when you have a heavy heavy rain flow that it's that you're not going to get

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hit you're still getting all the same water collecting during normal periods it's during those

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high storms high flashy events that it's going to reduce heavy rain but um you know how i don't know

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how much water is moving through there on a regular basis okay just because it's closed and

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um but i i would say that it's it's not going to be like a deep river going through there it'll be

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it'll be low so to give you um an idea here um this is one of the the concept ideas of

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veterans park it would be so right now if you can see my cursor over here um right now we have

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this whole parking lot you know with we've got the slanted stalls here

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and then we've got two-sided parking coming over here this would be reduced to a walking path

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going through those two red lines would be the walking path and then we would have parking coming

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out onto Lake Street at the base of the hill there would be a small gap there

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um and i think this you know they're still working on this then where we do have the asphalt pad

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over here that would be increased in size um because this would be opened up over here where we have

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the playground um we would remove the playground then we'd be looking at adding a smaller footprint

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of a playground um i've been looking at some different options for that they have some

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taller slide options um it would be a smaller but you would you would still have you know close to

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the same amount of amenities it would just be more of an upright piece there's some ash trees that

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over here that we've been treating but they're not they're not in great shape um so we would put

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them over right now they have this placed on the on top of the tent um but this is still

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you know concept um plans and not a hundred percent but that's that's where i would look at

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moving shifting that that playground over to um so that still allow the tents to go up um you still

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have parking over here um and i think the way they had it you were at close to even or um

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maybe a couple of spots lost with the change

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there wouldn't be an ability or a reason why they couldn't put it like on the that top parking

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map by the striped tent to the right of that where there's that big opening between the two

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buildings you you couldn't put it in there about right right above there keep going a little bit

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right in there yes the playground yes because the bathrooms are right there people with children

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they would be away from the road they'd be away from the stream they would be away from in front of

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the yacht club they would be yeah i can say i mean we have those we do have those

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trees all in there um but i don't think they're i'll take a look at that um i know we have those

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those conifer trees in there but um there might be a way for for that to work too

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um it just seems like a safer place yeah where's the ban shell

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yeah the ban shell wait oh is this the no i'm confused um

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right here yeah it is yeah this is the ban shell and then we shift to the right these are the

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evergreens this is the spot you're talking about yeah i'm sorry that that looked like open space

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just from the the grainy sorry all of the parking um currently right through there that's all

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going to be gone is that what you're saying this so this red double red line would be the new walking

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path right this would all be regraded because right now you have the walking path and then you've

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got a steep cut off right that goes down here so this would all be removed okay and regraded

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to a gentle slope and then you'd have your walking path so then you would have

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one row of parking okay all the way through that you would access from lake street got it

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my understanding is that same number of parking spaces what has changed is that those 10

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15 spaces that were extra long for yeah trailers that's what we will lose okay and i think they

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might have said now that we might actually have two fewer parking spaces or something like that

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because they were yeah there were a couple that were they were concerned about and then right where if

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it comes somebody's coming down the hill and from my understanding there may be an opportunity to do

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trailer parking behind the in the county parking lot which would be the same distance

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because that parking lot is generally empty yeah all we can for sure it was actually i think we

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counted it was like 180 feet they were both about the same distance to the marina but i'll take a

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look at that space between there and see if there would be enough room

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to put that in there and the reason you're doing the relocation of playground is that

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I bred that yeah because that that is pretty much right over the the playground is right over the

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culvert right now okay or just to the south of it okay

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so what did you when you that was open yeah oh okay

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okay

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so yeah and you know as a yeah when do you hope to have it completed

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that's going to depend on on the funding okay and where are we with funding like 50 percent

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that's a good question now it's i know they're i think it's going to council next

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next week i came through came through public works last didn't yeah i was voted on at public

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works so i i believe it's on the agenda for for next week okay and i know i know you said

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tami baldwin supports that how just like with yay good job or behind you or something yeah i don't

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as i said i you know when they they came they visited i don't know yeah as far as i know that's

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how it started i'm not gonna sugar going no that's okay i'm just wondering i mean is there funding

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that she's working on yeah there was there were some grants that she was kind of she helped us with

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yeah i think okay rob might have the rob rob rob was going to lead on this i just i wanted to bring

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it to the attention of the park or just because you know it's going to be affecting one of our

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parks so that's that's where i came in but um you know i'll likely be a little bit more involved

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now is the park um the playground equipment able to be reused or is it seen better days it's

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it's over 20 years old now oh wow okay all right so there is and once you i did we did an

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inspection on it um we do full inspections we do a full inspection with our insurance every three

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years but we also do staff inspections annually and um there's it's it's getting to the point where

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you know some of those plastic pieces they're not replaceable either and you can't

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you can't make any adjustments to playground equipment like they're very strict about that

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like if uh swing fails i can't go it has to be that specific swing for that um we've had some

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issues with that where i've had to take just swing sets down because i can't replace the swing

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because they stop making it and you know oftentimes you know that'll be the case when something's

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20 years old okay so yeah i don't think there's there's much that can be done with the playground

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um and they're buried in really heavy footings so by the time you

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start trying to move it you're you're almost you're better off and and they do have um the

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technology with these um playgrounds is really increased so you can do a much smaller footprint

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um you know and since then possibly playground has went in so this playground really doesn't get

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used that heavy the main the main time that it's used is when we do have festivals or music

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bring their kids down and give them a chance to play and it's it's almost i guess it's just my

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opinion you know if you are watching an event at the band shell if you could have the playground

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in front of you instead of behind you you know because the kids are playing back here as my

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experience do remember going there and i'm like oh my god where's my kid and i find him like he's

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in the slide but you need a thought is you know are they by the lake um so yeah but not over

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yeah good yeah so i mean there there may be i'll look into um because i'm always open

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and suggestions for these things and this is you know this has been very fluid so a lot of this is

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is you know just kind of coming with these concept designs

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so any other questions with with this um again this will be going to discuss more at council that

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they might have a little bit more information to answer to if you come to the council but jane i

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think i think that's a good question i'll make sure we get an answer to we'll ask that question at

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council about uh what percentage of the funding we have now and maybe a timeline

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are you done with your presentation can i do a couple follow up questions on this yeah okay

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well it just it's what the things we've talked about um so you talked about a community activity

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director that's a new position it's replacing a position but a new title yes okay it's replacing

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the recreation program manager and has that been posted filled what's this that posted

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interviewed that's the one that we're down to two candidates for okay sorry i missed that yeah

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that's right i said we've narrowed down to two candidates we'll be making a decision by the

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end of the week okay and then i agree with jane about the follow up on the evaluations if it's

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electronic and it was previously done in paper form statistically you always get a

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low response in paper yeah um and my my guess is that may have been what was going on in the past

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yeah um how has i noticed that you talked about like lots of t-ball registration now that we've

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gone to electronic registration they're finding the site no one's been calling about not being

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able to find it because i know you gave us a demonstration on that there everyone seems to be

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okay with that yeah i i don't know maybe zia i can lean on you a little bit if you've gotten

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feedback um but from my gathering i haven't gotten um calls or concerns as much i was wanting and i

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think that you helped me out with it but i was trying to get on the site just to gather information

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about gymnastics for three-year-olds and i couldn't do it it was you just it one not pop up i couldn't

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i'm just like so i finally called you um then when i went back on because it's you know you get

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this message and it says click here for registration while though i couldn't even find the gymnastics

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for little people i i i'm thinking i'm thinking that the website's not super easy to navigate

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i i i just don't think it is maybe it was just that particular time because it won't even come up

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gymnastics it went right to use sports and then there was no category for for gymnastics and younger

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kids um but then when i went on it like a number of days later i was able to find it so i don't

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know if it was just glitchy that day or what but but it's it's a touch frustrating yeah i i don't know

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if it's i know when you you google it and we kind of went through that

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once you're out of once you're in direct desk which is that do we do this as a committee or did

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you do that when when did we do this we did it here yeah it was right before you came up oh okay okay

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and we added some tabs to try to make it but it it's a little bit and we're a little bit limited

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because rec desk is the software that we use for and we've searched all avenues of how we can make

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that as user-friendly okay unless we are to change the whole platform which i could certainly look

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into but that would be a process and um i i don't know we i don't think we've been getting a lot of

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complaints on it from that's great or you know maybe people are stopping in too to register i

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don't know if people stopping in person or we don't have a zombie site out there yet do we i mean

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because i know sometimes it's hard to take old sites down no i've had i haven't had it with the

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port thing but i've had a couple things where i was looking for something i found myself on a site that

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wasn't really operating anymore but it's it still shows up on your searches we shouldn't and i don't

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know if you've been getting any kind of because we had she said roughly $7,500 worth of registration

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comes through on the first day and i don't know if you've been getting feedback on complaints or

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can you maybe use the mic just in case yeah

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we had two calls today but they were new they've never worked the program before so they were new

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to the program and after walking them through that it was pretty simple i think they just missed a

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tab or two for that and then the about the old websites that weren't active anymore we do have

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a parks and rec website that is still that is still active but it's not city it's not run through the

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city it was from the last time it was active for probably 2016 and because we don't have any

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management rights over it we can't kill it ask them to take it down if it was obviously yeah

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yeah okay but overall you feel like it's worked out better and because no are you full time with

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park and recs because there's another position that's halftime or is that you i'm full time with it

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so i'm here money through friday eight to four i do most of the registrations i'm at city hall so

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when people do come in for in-person registrations i take them in as well okay and then but there is

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another part time that's shared with senior center that's the that's the position the pool

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that's the position that we're hiring for that was the program manager oh okay so the program

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manager's position which is now community activity supervisor is is the title um we'll oversee the

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pool um we'll be Zai's role is administrative assistant so she's handling you know all the

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registration everything feedback like that program manager is going to be more involved with running

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the programs um overseeing the pool and then also working with the senior center outside of the

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pool hours so that that's where that and that's a part-time position that's also full time oh that's

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full time but it's split among different departments got it yeah split between the senior center and

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the so i have another pool question sorry to be that's okay i'm a tevby downer but when the pool

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when people want to do lap swimming like i know many people like to go early in the morning and

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they get there and it's closed and it's like how can we get the word out when the when the pool is

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closed um i understand of course with weather that's just common sense but there've been times

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where you know it's not we had two times last year that a kid overslapped that

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i can see that happening in part and part of the and trust me because i used to swim a lot in the

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mornings and if you build up enough courage to get yourself up and go swimming before work and you

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get there so i agree with the frustration on that um we do if the temperature is below i i think

395
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:19,280
we were gonna post it that we're in conjunction with all the other area pools it's auto is

396
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:26,960
67 degrees and it was a recommendation by the by the state then we close but we'll post that

397
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:35,680
on where on our website okay on the park and back or on the website it's usually we usually

398
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:42,000
post it on social media so if you follow us on facebook and instagram we do have a pirate's

399
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:49,680
hollow page and we usually update it there do you know about that but i think for many people

400
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,800
they are not on you know people aren't on social media i think we need to have it in another

401
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,280
location as well was there i mean if they're not on social media usually this decision

402
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:06,080
happens right away so i don't know how you could get it to them i i don't i don't i mean so you

403
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:12,400
post it on i mean can you just post it on the website not part of social media that people

404
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,280
i don't know i'm just saying yeah you know what you know how frustrating it is no i know but i mean

405
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:23,920
it's just like how can we improve the ability to if it's if it's if it's a reason for being

406
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:31,280
too cold that we close i i don't know yeah i guess if you look on

407
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:39,120
i think social media is is probably your best bet i think we're going to get the strongest

408
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:48,160
for instant results so social media pirates hollow okay i'm trying i can't get it to come up

409
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,400
okay well

410
00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:04,560
well anyway i so now i got it okay so now i have a couple more questions so i had asked for a budget

411
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:11,360
line it's still not included but i noticed that's still part of the charter that we're supposed to be

412
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:17,440
monitoring the budget but if we don't ever see the budget how are we to monitor so i i did talk with

413
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:24,320
mark the finance director about that and i will include that in our next one because it'll be

414
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,600
he doesn't he hasn't put out the first quarter budget yet i would have brought it to this one but

415
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:37,600
he posted the quarterly budget so he doesn't ever do monthly no he does it quarterly

416
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:47,040
okay okay so at the next meeting i'll i'll have it on there okay and last question for me hopefully

417
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:53,040
tonight update on the elephant slide slash sign

418
00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:01,120
elephant park elephant park the slide was taken away

419
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:10,080
yeah it's done it's been refurbished it's at the shop um we'll put it we have to put our trees in

420
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:17,040
first because they'll die if i don't get them in um the elephant will forever live you know so

421
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:20,400
we will be putting it up this spring

422
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:22,560
yep

423
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:31,360
i did find pyretala wallop water park on on instagram i didn't look on i didn't look on facebook yet but

424
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,880
i did find it on instagram yeah and i don't know i mean maybe um

425
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:45,520
um maybe maybe we make some kind of of post that just letting letting people know in advance like

426
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:52,640
just so you know if we reach this temperature you know be prepared we'll we'll be closing the pool

427
00:52:52,640 --> 00:53:02,400
especially if you know like this week is going to be especially cold reminder we close about 67

428
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,040
degrees yeah we could even maybe post that right the way of the lap lanes

429
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:14,000
i mean as a sign just at the entrance to the pool yeah yeah yeah and i obviously if someone

430
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:20,160
oversleep you know yeah yeah i yeah well part of the thing that

431
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:30,400
well it's it's the kids but part of the part of the um new full-time position is they're they're

432
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:36,240
going to be coming in in the mornings too so that should correct that because that was one of the

433
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:42,000
things that really bothered me i didn't like the fact that we're relying on because it was it was

434
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:49,200
tricky for me because parks opens up six thirty so i get that crew going and then i come over to the

435
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:56,480
pool so um you know i get i get all the park staff going and i come over to the pool and that happened

436
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:02,960
twice last year where i come over and oh my god nobody's here and there was some very unhappy

437
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:12,320
lap swimmers um so that's uh those are all things i'm glad that i i like really like the feedback

438
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:17,600
because it helps it helps us um adjust things um

439
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:34,960
and then lastly um we have the our our charter that will be presented at not this upcoming it's

440
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:46,240
the next council meeting um so last year i i or um no alderman gasper yeah he's sorry they

441
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:55,920
would like to have um the chair read it you will be i should be out of office by then i i could come

442
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:02,560
to that meeting just as the former chair of the but i don't know if that i i'd i'd want to run

443
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,240
that by the mayor and yeah i don't i don't think you can read it so

444
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:18,400
so we'd be looking for someone to read the the charter at council not actually read the whole

445
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:25,360
charter right highlight the highlights of it these were the pictures i was looking for before

446
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,520
it was just the forestry crew um that was part of the windstorm jackson street

447
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,320
and then again taking down larger ash tree with our spider lift

448
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,480
since since you're showing that and i promised no more questions i was mistaken

449
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:52,960
so the area in our triangle park is where we have our christmas tree our holiday tree oh yes

450
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:59,040
so that property that's just to the west of that is that private property or is that city-owned

451
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:05,440
property little of both because i was wondering all those down trees in there are we ever going to

452
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,280
if that's our property are we ever going to do anything we go through there on

453
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,760
well it's it's every every few years where it builds up we'll take stuff out of there i did have

454
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:22,720
the guys there was two larger down trees in there um and they they've got them down to the

455
00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:26,560
ground at least they were both hung up maybe that's what you were seeing like there was

456
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:31,040
two that were hung up they're pretty bad we did get those on the ground time permits we'll get

457
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:37,680
those out of there um but i i would say probably every two years we go through because a lot of

458
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:44,960
those you know just end up falling but um our property kind of down by the christmas tree that's

459
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:50,240
all ours going up that hillside but then as you go up the hill it shifts into the apartments

460
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:56,480
and then everything on jacks and street side we only own about 15 feet from the sidewalks so

461
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:02,160
that's all um theirs but i did meet with a couple of residents last week and they're going to be

462
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:10,160
doing some work there to um remove some of the down trees so going up the hill to upper lake park

463
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:17,280
those the integrity of those trees it's scary because they are just really leaning yeah so

464
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,960
i think about three years ago we went through and and took out some of the larger cottonwoods

465
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:28,560
there's two more in there that i have scheduled to take out oh to take out yeah i've been watching

466
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:34,800
them i think your husband actually um sent me an email oh um a while back okay

467
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:41,760
yeah so subconsciously he might have said something yeah i don't know what i mean

468
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:48,480
like we um i drove up there and it's like oh my gosh a big windstorm is that actually they haven't

469
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:54,720
moved there's there's two cottonwoods that i left in there and i really like the canopy i know it's

470
00:57:54,720 --> 00:58:02,400
goes over so you want but they are getting to a point where i don't it's not i wouldn't say it's

471
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:08,000
at a level of risk that i'm concerned about right now because i do watch and see if there's any

472
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:15,040
movement on that root plate behind there and they're they're solid um but i can't say nothing you

473
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:22,160
know you never know if you had three heavy days of rain and then a heavy windstorm like anything

474
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:28,240
can happen so um those are slated i've got them on the board to take down okay well i'll tell

475
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:33,920
my house back yeah so he'll he'll see they'll they'll come down i think there's there's two more

476
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:39,440
possibly a third that we'll we'll take out of there and just to just a point of interest on that is

477
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:45,360
when we did take those down a few years back there were numerous complaints i may i just you know

478
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:50,000
you can't win i i understand that and they clearly needed to come down they were dangerous yeah

479
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,320
yeah i was trying to find anytime we cut a tree it's like oh yeah end of the world you're trying to

480
00:58:54,320 --> 00:59:00,800
find a balance and i'm definitely one obviously that um tries to preserve the the trees the best

481
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:08,960
we can and oh that's good so but but those um when it becomes a level of risk that we don't want to

482
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,200
take we'll we'll take them down yeah and i was just wondering what that level of risk was

483
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:19,360
you think it's pretty good pretty good yet for the most part it's not it doesn't even have me

484
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:27,040
concerned right now okay it's just the size of them okay i do have one words the question what does

485
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:33,840
concern you i have another question i want to know like the planters on the streets when do those

486
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:43,840
get planted and who i know yvonne right does she plant them is is she the person who chooses

487
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:51,360
everything to go in the planters or how does that work she we have been shifting more and more that

488
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:56,880
she's doing a little bit more of the designing she works with a nursery okay so some of them

489
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:06,240
are a little bit more shade so um yeah i just uh i think we have the designs laid out um

490
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:12,720
i think that was just wrapping up this last week so those will go in not for a little while yeah

491
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:19,840
right in right in bold yeah but once weather permits they'll okay all right

492
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:32,320
so yeah this is um i just have to have the charter up but um and it goes through the highlights

493
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:40,560
and everything so i can um provide that before the the next let me we should discuss that mary

494
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,520
lou would you be willing to do that to be you're the only alderman on the uh on this

495
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:51,040
committee other me so i'd be happy to be you'd be the natural one i think unless you come back as

496
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,840
uh well then i'm still not the chairman i'm not

497
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:04,080
is jim mccarle still on that um this his name's not listed he stepped down oh okay well that's

498
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,400
too which is too bad because he was very yeah very good for many years many years many years

499
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:14,640
can i just include in there that so we'll need a secretary as well for the board

500
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:21,200
because he did step down so think about that before the next meeting

501
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,520
do you want me out what do we need to get some people

502
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:34,080
why do we need a secretary for jim carls was a secretary oh so our board has an official

503
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:40,800
secretary compared to other boards so we need that spot needs to be filled in in addition to

504
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:47,440
the chairperson so we need a chairperson and a secretary yes correct we have and i will say jim

505
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:55,040
jim did probably the best job on minutes i mean the most thorough job on minutes of

506
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,920
of any committee that i've ever been involved with he was he was really very thorough he was

507
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,760
i used to be amazed by the amount of detail he got into those

508
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,200
not that i think anyone who gets the job has to be quite as thorough as he was

509
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,520
let's say don't count on me because i did part minutes and there there's nothing in there

510
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:25,120
okay do you want anything else john you want to go over or with us what's that so mary lu's going

511
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:33,120
to do the uh she'll do the presentation for the council at the council and but do you want to

512
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:40,320
kind of go over any other highlights or yeah i've seen this somewhat before um well this is the

513
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:48,640
same that i presented um i think uh an last meeting was was at the last meeting so i haven't changed

514
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:55,760
anything on here um prior to the council if you want to talk with me about it if you

515
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:04,560
okay we can we can go over anything but it's pretty straightforward um my understanding

516
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,480
the council is just looking for an overview of this and

517
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:18,640
um so what's that i i don't have anything more okay yes there's any more questions

518
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:24,720
okay so if you have any more questions here's a good time to ask just and the questions are

519
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:30,000
all fine i never feel like you have to as far as i'm concerned the the old idea the only stupid

520
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:35,440
question is the one you didn't ask you know so there's two alderman on the committee will that

521
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:41,200
will another alderman be replaced i don't know there's a it the if you look at the charter it

522
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:47,360
only requires one alderman okay but i we've i think we've had two for quite a number of years

523
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:57,440
no maybe maybe it does now position was was coming to to park and rain i don't that's you know that's

524
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:02,960
that's called and okay i haven't talked with him about it but it's you mean the person who's going

525
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:09,840
yeah i thought i i guess maybe i'm mistaken but i thought that they were automatically coming

526
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,920
to this you may be you may be right but it is it is Ted's call so you know he's

527
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:22,960
everyone serves it his be his um okay so we'll go to public comments and appearances and this is

528
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:31,760
your one shot and i did want to just say that i you know this is my last meeting uh with this

529
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:40,720
committee and i wanted to thank you know mary lu and jane and wane and uh dan and also uh and

530
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:46,720
we just talked about him on gem because uh for the help that they've given me over the years

531
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:53,600
i wanted to thank john for uh his uh you know his leadership and filling me in on a lot of things

532
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:58,160
in zai i think you've done a great job since you came on board and it really helped us out uh

533
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:03,680
this is a this has been kind it's kind of a fun committee to be on i am hoping that maybe i

534
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:10,720
will be able to come back to it as a citizen number but uh thanks you all and uh and like uh in the

535
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:17,600
park and recreate and the friends of park and recreation too for uh their support and uh guess

536
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:24,080
that's really all i had um any you know thank you pat for your service we really do appreciate

537
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:29,520
everything that you've given to the community and to this group here thank you thank you

538
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,520
all right so i guess we will look for a motion to adjourn

539
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,200
a motion to adjourn have a motion do i have a second

540
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,920
motion and seconded to adjourn all in favor say aye aye opposed