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We're rolling down this tonight.

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I think we can call the meeting to order.

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Seven o'clock.

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Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, a one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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We have some visitors this evening.

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Okay, so tonight our first visitor would be Representative Keith Allen from the Minnesota

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He talked to me a couple of three weeks ago or so, and he would like to address the Council

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on the legislative session.

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Thank you, Keith.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you, Board, for giving me the opportunity to be able to speak real briefly.

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I saw the Jeansville School is going to be speaking here tonight, so I don't want to

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get in their way because they have some exciting things they've been doing there as well, and

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it's been fun to be able to watch what they've been doing.

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Anyway, I've just completed my freshman year at the Capitol.

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A lot of stuff ended up happening this last year.

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I had the opportunity to be able to serve on the bonding committee, which did a huge focus

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on public infrastructure, and as you probably have heard, the City of Wasik is going to

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be getting some upgrades to their wastewater treatment plant, which has been drastically

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needed and impacts local communities specifically around some of the businesses that you end

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up utilizing that and employing people in the local communities as well.

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But there was a huge focus on wastewater treatment and water delivery systems, and as you dig

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down into the entire state, it is not just that community, but it is hundreds of communities

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throughout our state that are impacted by this.

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It's been impressive to watch what Jeansville has done as a community, specifically around

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what you've done as far as your infrastructure for wastewater and what you've done for water

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and fresh water delivery systems here.

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Talking to the City Administrator here has just been amazing what you've done, and really

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shows as a great example of what other communities need to be looking at long-term as far as

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they're working and trying to keep up with those systems as their communities are growing.

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So hats off to you as a board for making those tough decisions many years ago.

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It's incredibly impressive.

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We also did some public safety investments as far as local safety infrastructure improvements

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and initiatives, ended up doing some bipartisan housing packages that were aimed at increasing

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housing production statewide.

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Property tax relief, we were pushing exceptionally hard on that, didn't get everything through

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that we were hoping to be able to get.

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You also heard about the car tabs.

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We were able to get some relief for one year.

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Some of my colleagues were trying to push to quadruple them over what they were currently

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at, and that was a non-starter for a lot of us up the Capitol.

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We were able to, with the fraud that was happening in the state of Minnesota, we ended up getting

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the, finally got the officer, the inspector general across the finish line, which was

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something that was drastically needed.

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It's going to be a nonpartisan watchdog that's going to go in and actually go through books,

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find where there's fraud happening in the state of Minnesota, and actually have teeth

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and law enforcement capability in order to be able to brick claw that money back, and

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hopefully be able to stop that from getting out of control like we've seen.

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Some of the other things that we were able to stop was there was an unrealized capital

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gains tax, which would have impacted a lot of rural communities, specifically small business

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owners, farming operations, and then there was also the climate super fund that was trying

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to get passed, which would have gone back to a year before I graduated, 1995, and anybody

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that would have used any kind of carbon source fuel, LP gasoline, diesel fuel, you name it,

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it would have been a tax that would have been leveraged back against every single household

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in the state of Minnesota to the tune of about $8,000 a year.

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I don't think anybody can afford that, so especially with us in the rural communities,

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the livestock that we raised, the crops that we produce, it would be a huge, huge impact

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But with that, I'd like to thank you for your activity at the capital for making your voices

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heard on a regular basis.

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You guys have an amazing administrator, you have an amazing county commissioner, a set

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of county commissioners that have been actively up at the capital, advocating on behalf of

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everybody in our community, and I just can't thank you enough for what you do.

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So with that, any questions?

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I didn't do that good of a job, did I?

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How did you like the new job?

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I've been impressed with how things have went.

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I was told coming into this not to expect too much as far as what we were going to be

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able to do because it's a very unique situation.

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Going back to the 1980s was the last time, early 80s was the last time we had dealt in

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a scenario like this where the house chamber was completely tied.

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I was amazed with the amount of work I was able to get accomplished, and the amount of

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bills I was able to get through and under the governor's desks in a situation like

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particular issues to bring things across the board, and that was something I really worked

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I didn't want to burn any bridges.

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I wasn't going to try to make any headlines or anything because, yeah, my data was raised

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just to be workhorses, not show horses, and it's important to get up there and actually

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get something accomplished.

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Probably one of the biggest things I ended up getting done was there was a school bus

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bill that was passed that there was a minor technicality where they were able to drive

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around.

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People were speeding through the stop arms on school buses because they weren't fully

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extended out, and I was able to clarify the loss, so the moment the amber lights come

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on, they'll get fined for it and take it in court and prosecute it like they should be.

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Yeah, it was interesting, but I'm glad I was up there and I was there at the right moment,

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Interesting.

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Any other questions for Keith?

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Well, speaking of town, you're going to come back with another request for a local field

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and use chat, and I'm hoping that you once again will support that effort along with

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our other legislators.

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It's pretty important for them to do this bill that we've never done in one thing coming

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It's a little bit of a government that we've not spread all of these text numbers, that

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we've spread the cost over all of those things.

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No, just to report on that.

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There was a social district one that came up along with the local option sales tax.

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Those two were one of the bigger ones, one of the big ones that I was pushing on.

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We have some that believe all tax dollars should go to the capital and should be distributed

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from the state side.

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I don't necessarily believe that.

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I'm the kind of individual that prefers local government to be able to make the decision

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for themselves.

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The closer the decisions are to the people, the more impact it truly has.

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I've always thought that it's, you know, more of the power should be local than it should

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be at the capital.

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We're there to help with regulation and some of the bigger components that we function

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as a state.

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But realistically, I mean, we should be putting more power in terms of education back in our

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school boards.

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We should be putting more power as far as local projects and everything back in cities and

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county commissioners' hands.

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They're more accountable to the people than, they're just as accountable to the people

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as I am.

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And I think that's the way it should be looked at.

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Local sales options, or the local sales option taxes a great example of it.

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So hopefully with any luck, we'll get a chance to be able to do it because there was a lot

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of communities throughout the state that were really banking on us getting that done.

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And it was, we had one individual that was obstructing us on the tax committee that just,

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she wasn't going to let it happen.

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We're very much appreciated that our legislators went backwards and we felt very fortunate to

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get in front of the full dependent on the health tax committee thanks to the influences of our

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legislators.

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So thank you very much for that work.

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I'm going to ask you to do it again.

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Happy to do it again too.

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Anything else for Keith?

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Thanks for stopping.

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And my condolences to your board too for losing your president this last year.

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Thank you.

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It was a sad thing to hear about.

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And I can't imagine what you guys have had to go through as a board in order to be able

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to try to work through that, losing a colleague unexpectedly, really does shake everybody

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to their core.

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And my condolences are to you guys along with the family and hopefully everything is going

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more smoothly.

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I appreciate that.

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You can die by her a couple of weeks ago if you want to tell them what you gave.

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Oh, yeah, I dropped off a letter, a letter to the family along with a flag that was flown

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over the capital, an American flag that was flown over the capital as a thank you for his

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service here.

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Thank you.

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With that, thank you again.

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And my office is always there.

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If there's anything that I can do, I'm just a phone call away and I'm more than happy

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to sit down and do whatever I can to be able to help.

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So that's what my office is there to do is to be able to work for you.

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Thank you.

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Next up, JWP schools.

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I'm a little sideways there.

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How's that?

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Is that better?

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Thanks, Lynn.

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Thank you for having us here.

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I'm Wendy Dyker.

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I'm the business manager at JWP schools.

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We wanted to, it worked out great to be here at the same night as Representative Allen to

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talk about some more legislation that's really going to impact schools if it passes.

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So I just wanted to give you a city leader some information about this proposed constitutional

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amendment on the permanent school fund and help us kind of get information out to the

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voters and help make sure that the voters find this ballot question that will be coming up

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in November.

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I did not know anything about this permanent school fund until I started working at a

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school.

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So on the next slide, I'll give you a little background on what it is and how it works.

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The permanent school fund and permanent land trusts were set up in 1858 when the Minnesota

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Constitution was written.

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We've got a legacy of valuing education in Minnesota and it was set into our Constitution right

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away that land, there were two parcels in every township that were set aside to generate

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revenue for funding public education in perpetuity.

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And the DNR manages those parcels and in the last 170-ish years some land has been swapped

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around or sold off.

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in this land trust.

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weeks ago, but I found also there's about a million acres also that are called severed

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rights acres, severed rights lands, and we have a little bit of that in Waseka County.

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Basically that is the surface of the land, does not belong to the state, but any mineral

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extractions or resource extractions from that land helps fund the trust.

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So there's another million acres of that land as well.

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They generate revenue from those lands on mineral extractions, timber harvesting, land leases,

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the school land trust parcels.

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Any revenue that's generated then goes to the state investment board and the state investment

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board manages this trust fund and all these dollars.

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They also manage some other trusts like our public employees retirement trust and the

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teachers retirement trust.

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So they do a lot of work on investing Minnesota dollars.

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And in the Constitution are some very specific rules about how those distributions from the

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endowment fund are sent to the Minnesota Department of Education.

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Today, that fund for this permanent school fund, this endowment fund is valued at about

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$3 billion right now.

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So then once the Minnesota Department of Education gets that annual distribution, they look at

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how many students are in Minnesota and they come up with a per pupil amount.

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on how many students are in that district.

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So Minnesota Department of Education in recent years has gotten about $58 million from that

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endowment fund.

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And a couple, several years ago, a couple issues were brought to the legislature.

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And it has far outpaced the distributions that have been going to the school districts.

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And that the distributions can vary from year to year.

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The market's great.

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We get a lot of money.

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The market's poor.

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Don't get so much.

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So it's been difficult for the Minnesota Department of Education to help the districts understand

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how much we'd be able to get year to year and help us budget.

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So in May 2024, the legislature put together a task force to kind of look at the past performance

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of this endowment fund, look at what other states are doing, do some projections, and come up

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with some recommendations on how to best calculate and distribute funds from this endowment fund

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to help preserve it, but also see if there was a way to increase or level out or have

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some better practices since funding vehicles and investment practices and things have changed

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in 170 years.

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So what could we do today?

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That might be better.

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So the task force has some recommendations.

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There's a link on the bottom of this slide to the permanent school fund task force report.

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It's about 86 pages long, and you'll get all the information on all the studies they did

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and the work they did.

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But all the work that they did, they brought three recommendations to the legislature in

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January.

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And the first two recommendations kind of go hand in hand.

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The first part of the recommendation is to pull those directions and directives and instructions

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on how this distribution happens out of the Constitution.

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So they want to propose an amendment to the Constitution to make the language allow for

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the legislature to make changes and look at how this fund is working and have them follow

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best practices and make law that way rather than have this all so specific in the Constitution.

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So that's kind of what the first two recommendations are.

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And then the third recommendation is their recommendation on how these distributions ought to be

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calculated.

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So rather than taking just the interest and dividends from a particular year, the task force

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recommends taking a look at the fund balance and the value over three years and taking an

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average of that value and then taking a four and a half percent portion of that and distributing

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that to the schools.

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So it would really even out the dollars that we're getting.

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And so year to year we could kind of have a better guess as to what the distribution would

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be to the schools.

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So that link there, if you really want to read it all, it's stimulating and interesting.

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There's a lot of charts and graphs in it too.

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So from that came some bills that we'll go into effect if this ballot question passes.

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So one of the bills was to have this proposed amendment and have a ballot question.

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And then if it's votes yes, there's some more bills that will go into place to help, you know,

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once that language is out of Constitution, it would now be in law.

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So the question is, you know, shall the Minnesota Constitution be amended to increase the funding

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going to school districts from the permanent school fund, which is a fund that supports

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school districts without raising individual income or property taxes effective July 1,

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2027.

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So that will be a yes, no question on the ballot.

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Historically, yes, no questions on ballots are skipped a fair amount of the time.

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You know, people maybe don't have the information.

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I'm not really sure what to vote on.

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I'm not sure if they support it or not.

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So we're really asking as a school district that, you know, as you're out talking to your constituents,

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talking to coffee, talking to your family that they seek out some information.

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There's a lot of information and resources, which I'll get to in a little bit too.

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And have them look for this question on their ballot in November.

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And, you know, Mark, yes or no, whether they would like to support it or not.

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Again, this has no impact on any taxes.

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There's no income tax or property tax change at all if they vote yes.

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If they vote no, things would just stay the same as they are.

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We'd continue to just get our distributions based on the Constitution.

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If they vote yes, it would update and modernize the way the fund is handled.

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So then that's kind of the big overview.

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If we kind of look at what's that going to do around here,

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I pulled together some of our neighboring districts.

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Jamesville's on the second row there and the JWP district is on the second row.

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But we've got our neighboring districts too to kind of show if we were to move to this new calculation

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to the distribution how this could impact our districts.

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That third column there, that's the final ADM 202324.

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ADM stands for average dealing membership.

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And so basically on any given day in 2324, you'd find that many students getting instructed in our districts.

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So JWP ended up with 623.87 students on average on a given day in 2324.

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And then in 2425, we received this 42,529 based on the number of students we had.

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And that year, the per pupil amount was at $68.17.

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So you can see what all of our districts received from this endowment fund in fiscal year 25.

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So if we take those same numbers and say we had looked at what we had in 2324,

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what we could have received in 25 with that new calculation,

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that would have put us at about $96 per pupil calculation from that distribution with that 4.5%.

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So JWP would have gotten about $59,892.

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So that would have bumped us up $17,000, which doesn't sound like a ton when we're talking about a $10 million budget,

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as our enrollments declining, things are costing more.

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That $17,000 could really be helpful.

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And all these districts, we're seeing that.

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So if we're looking at today's numbers or 2324 numbers and this change to the calculation,

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it would be about a 40% increase on the endowment fund distribution that the districts would be getting statewide,

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which is helpful for all of our districts, of course.

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A lot of districts are seeing enrollment declines.

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So these numbers from 2324, you know, they'll fluctuate.

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We're seeing it go down this year, 2526.

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We are at about 608.

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I think we're able to count 608 students.

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So, you know, these numbers aren't going to be set in stone, of course.

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This is just an illustration.

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But, you know, as you think about how enrollment changes and how that calculation could change,

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it's just kind of an illustration to see.

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And again, you know, we'll just kind of drive this again.

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There's no tax impact at all.

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This is all money that's been set aside for the schools and is sitting in this fund.

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And the legislation is just trying to find a way to help better utilize that for the schools.

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So, the next slide has some resources for you.

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If you want to dig into it or share these, the first one is a Minnesota permanent school

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fund amendment landing page.

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This page was put together by the Minnesota School Boards Association.

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They're an organization that supports the school boards and school administrators with lobbying

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and training and support.

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Also, the Minnesota Association of School Administrators.

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I'm not going to remember the name of it, but it's the Metropolitan School District.

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There's an association that supports metropolitan schools.

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And then the Minnesota Rural Educators Association.

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That supports us out in greater Minnesota.

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Those four organizations got together and put together this website.

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So, there's a whole bunch of information, a lot more details that kind of gave you a high overview.

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But if you really want to dig into some of it, that's on that website.

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The next one is the permanent school fund presentation.

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That is a 14 slide presentation by the task force that was presented to the legislature.

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It was also presented to these different organizations and the Minnesota School Boards Association.

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So, the task force kind of talked a little more in depth on what they did.

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My one or two slides there, this kind of pulled out into 14 slides.

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And then, of course, that 86 page report, if you want to see even more.

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And then, if you're kind of nerding out about the land, like we do out in greater Minnesota,

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I put the website for the school land trust from the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources.

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So, there's some maps out there where you can kind of see where the different parcels are

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and what's happening on those parcels.

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So, that's about all I have on that.

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Do you have any questions on any of the information?

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Otherwise, Jeremy and I are always very happy to take calls, take visits.

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I was just going to make a point though.

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If you skip the question, it's no vote.

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I was going to ask that.

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So, make sure you vote.

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Yes, make sure you fill in a yes or a no.

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Because what they'll do is they'll look at all the voters who voted that day

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and the yeses need to have a majority to pass.

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So, if there's, you know, 1,000 voters and one of them didn't even vote at all.

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That's 20 noes and then, you know.

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So, it's really, they take a look at the total number of voters and how many yeses

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were on there.

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So, yeah, skipping the question completely is effectively a no.

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Yeah.

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Souls are going to be people like campaigning, like signs, like a vote yes sign.

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There may be.

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There may be.

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You know, as schools, school officials, we are here to give some information

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and just share the information with you and give you some resources

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so you can make your decision.

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There may be some vote yes campaigns happening around the state or around the city.

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We're not going to be doing that at the school of course, but you may see some of that.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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So, do I understand the recommendations were to remove it from the Constitution?

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This does not remove it from the Constitution.

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It changes the Constitution distribution numbers, correct?

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Right.

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So, it would remove those distribution instructions from the Constitution

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and put those instructions into legislation, into a bill.

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That's the same as removing it from the Constitution.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, that's what this ballot question is.

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So, this recommendation is to remove it from the Constitution.

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Right.

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The task force recommendation is that.

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Yeah.

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In some bureaucrats and legislature.

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Sort of.

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Give them some more on flexibility.

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I think that that wasn't presented quite well enough.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Changing constitutions are unhealthy.

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I would rather see them change the Constitution numbers rather than removing it from the document

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that's a hundred and some years old.

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And even if that is the case, it still has to be amended because the numbers.

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Right.

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So, there would be an amendment.

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Yeah.

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There would have to be a different amendment.

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The amendment now is to remove those.

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Move that language.

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I'm just giving you that.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Can I just ask a question?

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Sure.

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And just a clarification of what you were doing, Jim.

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This.

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And I do think the nuance of this conversation is important.

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What part of this?

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This question on the ballot.

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What part of this does it?

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Does it remove from the Constitution?

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Because the Constitution is still doing to have the establishment of this permanent fund as part of that.

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As part of that's not going to change.

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Isn't that the management piece?

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Because for a hundred and some years the formula has been untouchable.

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Now the point I want will move from our Constitution into the hands of legislators.

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So elected body people.

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Not the Department of Education.

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Right.

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I think that nuance is important.

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Because I think the word you use, bureaucrat, that makes you go boy out.

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I mean we want people who have direct accountability to constituents, to people who pay those taxes.

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So it wouldn't be the Department of Education.

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It wouldn't be the Department of Natural Resources.

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It would be a legislator and a subdivision of a legislature that would manage and distribute.

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Correct?

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The legislature would actually have a final vote on it.

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This is probably, and I'm glad you're touching on this because this was one of the more exciting things we ended up getting through

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and the act like winning the silence about what.

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As we see sales happening within timber, my mineral extraction, that kind of thing,

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these funds actually grow, it grows substantially bigger.

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And this gets the legislature to be able to bump it up.

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They're currently using it as a very, very conservative number.

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But realistically, down the path, there could be a lot more money that's currently sitting in there.

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You say the site that's happened, you know, some of the human sales and some of the other mineral extraction stuff that's happening

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in the state, the timber sales and how they've managed land.

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This was something that it was exciting to see it.

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It's me, I've seen schools struggling in terms of dollars and what they're able to do here in the state.

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This was like finding an extra dollar or anything.

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I agree with you.

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Four and a half to five percent is historically very conservative.

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Even in negative downtime, four and a half to five percent is still sustainable long term.

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So I don't argue with that.

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I'm glad you clarified that the legislature, not a department, the governor would be managing this.

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It'll be the legislative act.

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Thank you very much.

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And at no time, this money can go anywhere else except for the school district.

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That's correct.

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Correct.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Much more comfortable.

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Any other questions?

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Thank you very much.

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Downfall with this is here again where if you don't vote, it's a no vote.

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And I'm not in favor of that policy.

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It should be the tally of the people that voted.

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I voted on that question to look at.

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Sure.

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We should not allow it up to people that just ignored it.

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Seeing the presidential elections where they just go in and fill out that part of the election form and never looked at the rest of it.

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And it hurts a lot of good ideas and good projects.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

481
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:11,680
Yeah.

482
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,680
Yeah.

483
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,680
Yeah.

484
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,680
Yeah.

485
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,680
Yeah.

486
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,680
Yeah.

487
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:17,680
Yeah.

488
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,680
Yeah.

489
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,680
Yeah.

490
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,680
Yeah.

491
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,680
Yeah.

492
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,680
Yeah.

493
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,680
So I got the right guy.

494
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Call the, call the secretary of state on that.

495
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,680
No.

496
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,680
You're not going to get it done this year.

497
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Yeah.

498
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,680
Yeah.

499
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,680
Yes.

500
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:38,680
And so the last slide has my email address and Jeremy's email address that you don't feel like stopping into our office.

501
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,680
You can always call or email us or shop us on the street.

502
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:52,680
Ask me what that link is again for the website and we'll be glad to help share the information and we hope that you'll help us to a city leaders.

503
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,680
Thank you so much.

504
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,680
Thank you.

505
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,680
Thank you.

506
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,680
Thank you.

507
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:06,680
Approval of the agenda.

508
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,680
All in favor.

509
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,680
All right.

510
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,680
All right.

511
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,680
All right.

512
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,680
Consent agenda.

513
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,680
All right.

514
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:26,680
You have minutes from the June 22nd meeting and then you have a couple of, you have a receivable report and then there's a couple of payables.

515
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:36,680
The only thing I want to point out with payables is that there are some expenses in here paying for the electric project outside of town.

516
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,680
And then we did have a couple, we have a couple leases for equipment.

517
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:47,680
So we have their semi annual payments in tonight's agenda.

518
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:55,680
That's all I got.

519
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:05,680
Motion to approve.

520
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,680
All in favor.

521
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,680
All right.

522
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,680
Public forum.

523
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,680
Do we have anybody here that would like to speak through public forum?

524
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,680
Go ahead, Mike.

525
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,680
Oh, you got to go up to the deal there.

526
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,680
That's the rule.

527
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,680
Mike Santel.

528
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,680
You guys all know me, I think.

529
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:38,680
I just wonder if you guys could apply some pressure to the railroad to get something done with the main street railroad crossing there.

530
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680
That thing is rough as can be.

531
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,680
You're just talking about that.

532
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,680
We've been.

533
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,680
I don't know what it's.

534
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,680
I agree.

535
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,680
I just want to point that out and make sure that we can send them a letter or whatever.

536
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,680
I don't know what's on the county road.

537
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,680
Maybe you can help out with that too on that side.

538
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,680
It's.

539
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,680
I've already spoken to the county.

540
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,680
The county can ask fix it.

541
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,680
I understand that.

542
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,680
Yeah.

543
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,680
You can apply pressure to the railroad maybe.

544
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,680
Well, good luck with that.

545
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,680
If we ask them to fix it, they will ask us to pay for it.

546
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:19,680
And it goes upwards of $150, $250,000.

547
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,680
Okay.

548
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,680
We are reluctant to make any kind of official ask.

549
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,680
But there's a little blue sign there.

550
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,680
And it's got a phone number on it.

551
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,680
And everybody should call it only three times a day.

552
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,680
Teal Street is getting to be pretty bad too.

553
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,680
Yeah.

554
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,680
That's only for four years old, I think.

555
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,680
Those railroad ties are like eaten out and divoted.

556
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,680
Thank you.

557
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,680
Anybody else want to speak to public forum?

558
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,680
Last call.

559
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,680
Moving on.

560
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,680
Notices and communications.

561
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,680
Nothing.

562
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,680
Cultural reports.

563
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,680
Nothing.

564
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,680
Oh, I'm not supposed to talk.

565
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,680
That's mobile 3D.

566
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:24,680
So, for Jim, for any, does he wish to get on any boards?

567
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,680
Or are we just going to?

568
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,680
Where do you want me to serve?

569
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,680
We hadn't really talked about that prior to last week.

570
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,680
Whatever he came up with then, he just let me know.

571
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,680
Okay.

572
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,680
Right?

573
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,680
Oh, I'll probably just stay on the ones I'm on for right now.

574
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,680
It's only six months.

575
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,680
Yeah.

576
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Right.

577
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,680
I have nothing to do.

578
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Bark road or whatever other one I want.

579
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,680
Yeah.

580
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Yeah.

581
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,680
Jacob Lurkey won the?

582
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,680
What's that?

583
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,680
Jacob Lurkey won the thing for EDA.

584
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,680
Oh, yeah.

585
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,680
Yeah.

586
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Well, you're on that committee.

587
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,680
I'm here to help you.

588
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,680
You're on that committee.

589
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,680
You're on that committee.

590
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,680
That's all right.

591
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,680
No, I got a different committee I have to talk about.

592
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:20,680
EDA has awarded the business challenge grant of $20,000 to the Lurkey family for their

593
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,680
project on East Main Street.

594
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:31,680
So, I have not visited with them personally.

595
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,680
So, I'm sure they're excited about it.

596
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:43,680
And we've had a brief conversation with the colony about when we can do something like

597
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:51,680
that again.

598
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,680
Thank you.

599
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,680
So much.

600
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,680
The last planning commission was a joint meeting with EDA.

601
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,680
We had Ron Hamilton come in and talk to us.

602
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,680
It was a long and enlightening conversation.

603
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,680
I don't know if you really made any progress towards doing anything, but it was a good

604
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,680
conversation.

605
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,680
I missed the park road.

606
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,680
I was in the camp.

607
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,680
So, if you know what happened.

608
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,680
No.

609
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,680
I mean, we're just looking at some equipment.

610
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,680
Things like that.

611
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,680
You know.

612
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,680
Science for parks.

613
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Nursing Hall.

614
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,680
They had a water main break a couple weeks ago.

615
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,680
They were currently running off a hydrant.

616
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,680
The Department of Health needed an engineering plan.

617
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,680
So, Mike says, what did you say?

618
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,680
You got some coal from the $20,000 coal.

619
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,680
They're under.

620
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,680
Under $20,000.

621
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:57,680
So, are we going to look at that next week at our meeting?

622
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,680
This week.

623
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Is it this week?

624
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,680
I have a meeting this week.

625
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,680
So, we're going to talk about it this week.

626
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,680
Talk about how they're going to fix it or.

627
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Workout as their hands in how the water supply comes in.

628
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,680
Somehow, I don't know exactly what they're looking for.

629
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,680
The fair marshals of all are located.

630
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,680
It's replacing the pipe, I think.

631
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,680
Well, how?

632
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,680
My engineering job.

633
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,680
It's our house process.

634
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Thank you.

635
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,680
Interesting.

636
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:54,680
Just to me, you'd fix the old one and then figure out how we're going to move forward with renewing it.

637
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,680
That makes sense.

638
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Gotcha.

639
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Can this be internal for me or is it external?

640
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,680
Well, no.

641
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,680
Main that we got to go forward in.

642
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,680
I don't exactly where it comes in.

643
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,680
It comes in on the east side, I believe.

644
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,680
I'm not sure.

645
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,680
I'm not sure.

646
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:19,680
It's a little bit different also, even in there, I guess.

647
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,680
Just a second of the nursing home, not part of the road.

648
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,680
Right.

649
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,680
Yep.

650
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,680
Gotcha.

651
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,680
All right.

652
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,680
I'll let you know that too.

653
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:36,680
I met with the utility board prior to this.

654
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,680
Not a whole lot, obviously.

655
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:43,680
We talked about the project out there and progress on all that.

656
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:50,680
They are making progress, so that's good.

657
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,680
Everything else is pretty routine in nature.

658
00:39:54,680 --> 00:40:01,680
We talked about the 2027 projects and I'll smoke it.

659
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,680
Golf board has not met lately.

660
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,680
Things are going really good out there, by the way.

661
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,680
Kevin makes its own when I chat with him.

662
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,680
Did they win in a morning?

663
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,680
Oh, yes.

664
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,680
Sorry.

665
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,680
It'll be in Clinton's thing too.

666
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,680
I mean the stuff on here.

667
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Voted Mankato's best golf course, which is pretty cool.

668
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,680
Pretty good thing.

669
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,680
Yeah.

670
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:38,680
I mean for municipally owned golf course, that's cool.

671
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:45,680
I reached out to Jacob and Kevin and they put a lot of hard work into that.

672
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,680
And obviously Scott Allen did 25 years as well.

673
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:55,680
I heard that they are going to get a plaque from the free press.

674
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,680
That's why I heard too.

675
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,680
Okay.

676
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,680
That's my understanding.

677
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,680
Yeah.

678
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,680
That makes sense because I've seen them in businesses that.

679
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,680
Yeah.

680
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,680
Not we should hustle one off from.

681
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,680
I agree.

682
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,680
No.

683
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:13,680
It's a very nice honor.

684
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,680
Administrative report.

685
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,680
Yes.

686
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,680
In tonight's packet, you have the June bank reconciliation.

687
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,680
You have the CAF balance report dated last Friday.

688
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:30,680
They did announce here that Prairie Ridge was voted best of.

689
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,680
And Andy just mentioned that.

690
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:38,680
On July 1st, we did receive our first half property taxes of about 760,000.

691
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:45,680
So I photocopied the check and then the next page shows where those monies go, what different

692
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,680
funds they go into.

693
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,680
And I was just going to mention that we're supposed to have our first half local government

694
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,680
aid probably, well, hopefully this week, but it's supposed to be by the middle of July,

695
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:03,680
which is pretty much today.

696
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:08,680
We sent letters out to the properties on East Front Street, explaining the project that

697
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,680
we're going to be doing there in the summer.

698
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,680
And we'll reach out to the residents here pretty soon in the next few days to see if they

699
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,680
have any questions.

700
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,680
You also have the second quarter personnel expense report in front of you there.

701
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,680
In this couple of weeks, you'll have to leave conference and they had a bunch of these

702
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,680
on a table.

703
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,680
So I snagged a bunch.

704
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,680
It's just a good overview of the legislative session.

705
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,680
You want it?

706
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:43,680
Yeah, I don't know.

707
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,680
Yeah, it is.

708
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:51,680
And then last but not least, the coalitions weekly grief is in there and I'm going to let

709
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,680
you know next week.

710
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,680
They have their summer conference in new homes, so I'll be a new home next week for that

711
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,680
conference.

712
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:10,680
That's all I got.

713
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,680
Motion to approve administrative report.

714
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,680
Second.

715
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,680
All in favor?

716
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,680
Aye.

717
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,680
Looks like nothing from department heads.

718
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,680
We'll have golf here next meeting.

719
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,680
There you go.

720
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,680
Get more from Kevin at that time.

721
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680
Staff reports.

722
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Yes, under administration here, we have a few items to talk about.

723
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:45,680
First one, Caitlin Kratz, the community development director.

724
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:52,680
We had her performance review with her a week or so ago and she passed her learning period,

725
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:59,680
and what our personnel policy says is that when a person passes that, the city council

726
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,680
needs to make that motion to approve.

727
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:08,680
And once you make that motion, Caitlin will be considered a regular employee, no longer

728
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,680
probationer.

729
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,680
I'll make that motion to pull her off of the training and make her a full-time employee.

730
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,680
She knew it.

731
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,680
It's spectacular at the EDA meetings, and she's done a lot of great stuff around here

732
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:27,680
lately, so I've seen her working firsthand and doing a great job.

733
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,680
Motion and a second.

734
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,680
All in favor?

735
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,680
Aye.

736
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,680
Aye.

737
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,680
Aye.

738
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,680
Aye.

739
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,680
Aye.

740
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:36,680
Aye.

741
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,680
Aye.

742
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:38,680
Aye.

743
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,680
Aye.

744
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,680
Aye.

745
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,680
Aye.

746
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,680
Aye.

747
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,680
Aye.

748
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,680
Aye.

749
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:50,760
Which will be part of West North Street and a little small area of South Scookam.

750
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:58,760
So tonight's resolution orders the firm to put together the feasibility report, and Jason

751
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:05,360
will present that to the city council at the First Meeting on August 10th.

752
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:11,060
So, let's do this as kind of the next step moving forward for a routine street utility

753
00:45:11,060 --> 00:45:12,060
project.

754
00:45:12,060 --> 00:45:23,060
Any commotionally approved that straighten you until the day improvements?

755
00:45:23,060 --> 00:45:24,060
Second.

756
00:45:24,060 --> 00:45:25,060
All in favor?

757
00:45:25,060 --> 00:45:26,060
Aye.

758
00:45:26,060 --> 00:45:27,060
Aye.

759
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:28,060
Aye.

760
00:45:28,060 --> 00:45:29,060
Aye.

761
00:45:29,060 --> 00:45:30,060
Aye.

762
00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:31,060
Aye.

763
00:45:31,060 --> 00:45:32,060
Aye.

764
00:45:32,060 --> 00:45:33,060
Aye.

765
00:45:33,060 --> 00:45:34,060
Aye.

766
00:45:34,060 --> 00:45:35,060
Aye.

767
00:45:35,060 --> 00:45:36,060
Aye.

768
00:45:36,060 --> 00:45:37,060
Aye.

769
00:45:37,060 --> 00:45:38,060
Aye.

770
00:45:38,060 --> 00:45:39,060
Aye.

771
00:45:39,060 --> 00:45:40,060
Aye.

772
00:45:40,060 --> 00:45:41,060
Aye.

773
00:45:41,060 --> 00:45:42,060
Aye.

774
00:45:42,060 --> 00:45:43,060
Aye.

775
00:45:43,060 --> 00:45:44,060
Aye.

776
00:45:44,060 --> 00:45:45,060
Aye.

777
00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:46,060
Aye.

778
00:45:46,060 --> 00:45:47,060
Aye.

779
00:45:47,060 --> 00:45:48,060
Aye.

780
00:45:48,060 --> 00:45:49,060
Aye.

781
00:45:49,060 --> 00:45:50,060
Aye.

782
00:45:50,060 --> 00:45:51,060
Aye.

783
00:45:51,060 --> 00:45:52,060
Aye.

784
00:45:52,060 --> 00:45:53,060
Aye.

785
00:45:53,060 --> 00:45:54,060
All in favor?

786
00:45:54,060 --> 00:45:55,060
Aye.

787
00:45:55,060 --> 00:45:56,060
Aye.

788
00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:57,060
Aye.

789
00:45:57,060 --> 00:45:58,060
Aye.

790
00:45:58,060 --> 00:45:59,060
Aye.

791
00:45:59,060 --> 00:46:00,060
Aye.

792
00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:01,060
Aye.

793
00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:02,060
Aye.

794
00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:03,060
Aye.

795
00:46:03,060 --> 00:46:04,060
Aye.

796
00:46:04,060 --> 00:46:05,060
Aye.

797
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:10,220
something, based on the November election we might, you know, get the invoice in January

798
00:46:10,220 --> 00:46:14,620
so we do put a little money into the elections every year.

799
00:46:14,620 --> 00:46:20,940
I'm going to ask the council tonight, staff, talking about these budgets, we are going

800
00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:27,700
to propose a 3% cost of living, increased across the board for wages, and tonight at

801
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:34,820
this point, we are going to budget a 10% increase for all insurance, and as you know,

802
00:46:34,820 --> 00:46:38,420
we always get those final insurance numbers, you know, usually around Thanksgiving or

803
00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:39,420
so.

804
00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:46,660
So we'll have more concrete numbers in a few months.

805
00:46:46,660 --> 00:46:49,900
Anybody have any questions on these?

806
00:46:49,900 --> 00:47:00,420
I will point out that we were able to finish June, you know, with your reconciliation.

807
00:47:00,420 --> 00:47:04,300
So I entered all the year-to-date budgets in all the different line items.

808
00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:09,380
He actually expenses this year, and everybody's really, really close to 50%, so everybody's

809
00:47:09,380 --> 00:47:11,380
doing a great job.

810
00:47:11,380 --> 00:47:20,500
Obviously, this is the preliminary number, so everybody's aware of that.

811
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:27,380
So if you're doing that cost of living, increased for everything, how much of a bump

812
00:47:27,380 --> 00:47:29,980
does that for the council?

813
00:47:29,980 --> 00:47:30,980
Zero.

814
00:47:30,980 --> 00:47:34,900
I would like to ask for that number to get bumped a little bit.

815
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:39,100
Not anything obscene, but here's the deal.

816
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:42,100
You can't vote on giving yourself a raise.

817
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:49,260
It has to go effective, the next council, and it's in the city code, so we would have

818
00:47:49,260 --> 00:47:50,260
to- I understand.

819
00:47:50,260 --> 00:47:51,260
Yep.

820
00:47:51,260 --> 00:47:54,060
I don't think it should be a topic that we bring up.

821
00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:55,060
Okay.

822
00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:56,060
Nothing extreme, you know, nothing at all.

823
00:47:56,060 --> 00:47:57,060
Right.

824
00:47:57,060 --> 00:48:00,260
We wanted to double-check every month, but I don't think it'd be too much to ask for

825
00:48:00,260 --> 00:48:07,300
council to get an extra X amount, you know, something small.

826
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:12,180
So then the raise wouldn't go in here into effect until we were all gone.

827
00:48:12,180 --> 00:48:19,140
It will all be the next January 1, right?

828
00:48:19,140 --> 00:48:20,140
How does that work?

829
00:48:20,140 --> 00:48:23,940
Because like with the legislature, it's the next legislative session.

830
00:48:23,940 --> 00:48:26,980
It should be January 1, here, our budget.

831
00:48:26,980 --> 00:48:27,980
Yeah.

832
00:48:27,980 --> 00:48:32,980
But we have to amend the city code, and we have to, you know, go through those steps,

833
00:48:32,980 --> 00:48:33,980
too.

834
00:48:33,980 --> 00:48:34,980
So.

835
00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:40,180
Yeah, we can start the ball on that.

836
00:48:40,180 --> 00:48:41,420
I think we should start the ball.

837
00:48:41,420 --> 00:48:45,540
I mean, I'm perfectly happy with what I'm doing and what I'm getting, but it might allow

838
00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:56,060
more interest in wanting to come in if they just hurt that little absolutely.

839
00:48:56,060 --> 00:49:03,700
There's another topic I wanted to bring up, I'll talk you up to the meeting.

840
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:06,700
Anything else on the portion of the general phone?

841
00:49:06,860 --> 00:49:13,300
Ah, that's all I have.

842
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:14,300
Moving on.

843
00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:17,420
Fire department, air packs.

844
00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:23,460
Yes, we have two bids here and one is for new air packs, and then the second quote is

845
00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:28,300
for the new cascade system, which we fill, said air packs.

846
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:31,260
So you have two quotes.

847
00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:36,340
One is 174-665, that is for the air packs themselves.

848
00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:41,620
The second sheet would be for the cascade system within the fire hall, a little over

849
00:49:41,620 --> 00:49:42,620
57,000.

850
00:49:42,620 --> 00:49:48,580
I know Andy was talking a little bit last week, and Mike, maybe, if you want, or I

851
00:49:48,580 --> 00:49:53,220
can, or whatever, but if we explain Sourcewell a little bit.

852
00:49:53,220 --> 00:49:54,220
I can try.

853
00:49:54,220 --> 00:49:55,220
Okay.

854
00:49:55,220 --> 00:50:00,060
Sourcewell, as we bought our last fire truck through that, it's a buying group set up

855
00:50:00,060 --> 00:50:09,820
by the legislature that gets state bids, and I tried getting other bids from different

856
00:50:09,820 --> 00:50:13,780
vendors, and once they found out we already had a Sourcewell bid, they said it's illegal

857
00:50:13,780 --> 00:50:15,940
for us to bid on it.

858
00:50:15,940 --> 00:50:22,660
I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what they, I tried two different vendors with

859
00:50:22,660 --> 00:50:29,780
Gregor and Scott, and they said they wouldn't even bid on it, because they get themselves

860
00:50:29,780 --> 00:50:37,300
in trouble, because they're going against basically a state bid.

861
00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:44,060
Our department has been MSA since the day we started wearing packs, it's a brand we're

862
00:50:44,060 --> 00:50:45,060
used to.

863
00:50:45,060 --> 00:50:51,700
Keep in mind ours are 2004 models, which are three generations from what we're looking

864
00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:54,580
at here.

865
00:50:54,580 --> 00:51:03,020
Life expectancy is 10 to 15 years on these, we've got 22, 23 years on them, so 24 on some

866
00:51:03,020 --> 00:51:04,020
of them.

867
00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:06,820
They're just starting to show where.

868
00:51:06,820 --> 00:51:13,540
I talked to Jim, you weren't here, but I talked to you guys two months ago, I think.

869
00:51:13,540 --> 00:51:20,100
Let you know that we would be coming in brace for it, and I wasn't too far off in my guess.

870
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:34,220
These bids here, if you look at the 57,000 one, the storage cylinder tanks, we may, I'm

871
00:51:34,220 --> 00:51:38,820
pretty sure we're going to take that off of there, and we're going to lease those tanks.

872
00:51:38,820 --> 00:51:48,140
The price for leasing them is way less than what it would cost to buy them.

873
00:51:48,140 --> 00:51:53,380
We currently lease the low-pressure ones, we just did the bill for that, it's like $130

874
00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:59,340
a year, and they want almost two grand a piece for them, we need seven of them.

875
00:51:59,340 --> 00:52:04,740
I can't imagine the high-pressure ones are going to be that much more expensive, so if

876
00:52:04,740 --> 00:52:12,140
we can get them leased for $500 a year, over the next 20 years, and then every 10 years

877
00:52:12,140 --> 00:52:16,660
they need to be hydro-tested, which is probably a thousand a piece, they get them hydro-tested

878
00:52:16,660 --> 00:52:23,820
and if they're leased, they just swap them all, so I haven't got concrete numbers on

879
00:52:23,820 --> 00:52:31,140
that leasing, but I'm pretty sure we can do better than buying them off here, so if you

880
00:52:31,140 --> 00:52:39,860
look on the other ones, the other sheet here, we have the bottom there, it's used riddles,

881
00:52:39,860 --> 00:52:50,100
we have 13 packs currently, which is a good number for us to have with a number of seats

882
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:54,740
on the truck, a number of members we have and all that, for backup teams and all that.

883
00:52:54,740 --> 00:52:59,260
We have great hoses on each of our 13 packs, we're missing one right now, that's why we

884
00:52:59,260 --> 00:53:05,420
have one used one, so we're reusing those, to buy those news, they're about $1,000 a

885
00:53:05,420 --> 00:53:12,900
piece, so six foot piece of hoses with two fittings on it.

886
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:20,620
I believe these manufacturers were at the federal Senate hearings, trying to explain

887
00:53:20,620 --> 00:53:28,980
why everything went up so high in prices, but I don't think they got it anywhere, but

888
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:30,820
any questions for me on this?

889
00:53:30,820 --> 00:53:34,100
We do have the money in the capital of expenditures.

890
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:41,100
We do realize by doing this, we are putting our next tanker that would be next in the

891
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:47,820
rotation, that's going to be put back a year and a half to two years, we totally understand

892
00:53:47,820 --> 00:53:52,660
that as we're going into this, we feel the packs are more, they use a lot more than that

893
00:53:52,660 --> 00:54:01,500
second tanker.

894
00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:05,820
Any questions for me?

895
00:54:05,820 --> 00:54:16,260
Oh yes, all these tanks, they expire, our tanks are, a lot of them are coming to do

896
00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:22,300
are, we've got some that aren't, but about half our tanks are, our actual bottles we

897
00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:29,300
were in our back, they're a 15 year life on it, we have about half our tanks, and currently

898
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:36,020
we have a low pressure system, and the NFPA will not allow a low pressure system anymore,

899
00:54:36,020 --> 00:54:42,660
we have to go to a high pressure system, they can't sell us a low pressure anymore, logic

900
00:54:42,660 --> 00:54:47,060
behind that I have no idea, but other than manufacturers sit on that board and decide

901
00:54:47,060 --> 00:54:55,700
what we, it's my personal opinion on that, always trying to add stuff so we have to keep

902
00:54:55,700 --> 00:55:05,820
increasing the prices.

903
00:55:05,820 --> 00:55:13,980
The money you have in reserve is also the money that would be used for fire trucks.

904
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:20,540
Yes, it's the same, anything over, I believe it's $5,000 we try and take out of there is

905
00:55:20,540 --> 00:55:26,340
what Andrew wants on the schedule to any high dollar item where we set aside money

906
00:55:26,340 --> 00:55:37,860
per year to, so we aren't having to borrow money, it will, it definitely will, and we

907
00:55:37,860 --> 00:55:50,260
understand that, our second tanker is 92, I believe in, we don't use it very often, and

908
00:55:50,260 --> 00:55:55,780
it still works, it's underpowered for what it is, but it's, for what we use it for, it

909
00:55:55,780 --> 00:56:04,340
works, it's not ideal, but we can get by a couple more years with that, we believe.

910
00:56:04,340 --> 00:56:08,780
And if we did roll both them trucks out with mutual aid the way it is now, there would

911
00:56:08,780 --> 00:56:13,900
be another tanker, any time we're rolling tankers, we're not mutual aid coming anyway

912
00:56:13,900 --> 00:56:19,980
with more tankers, so that tankers are less of the problem as they used to be, because

913
00:56:19,980 --> 00:56:25,620
of mutual aid, you know, if I see it as a fire we're rolling towards them with our

914
00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:38,060
tankers too, to help support them, so that, that helps in that area.

915
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:46,980
I guess what I'm looking for is an okay to purchase this with potentially minusing at

916
00:56:46,980 --> 00:56:59,580
the $13,562.36, and that'll, that lease will be paid during our operating expenditure,

917
00:56:59,580 --> 00:57:04,580
the lease payment will work, if we can get a decent deal on them.

918
00:57:04,580 --> 00:57:11,340
I would move to the except the order proposal, and move forward, then I explain the source

919
00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:18,580
well enough to everybody, how that works, you can buy more than just fire trucks, it's

920
00:57:18,580 --> 00:57:24,900
virtually anything, you know, you want a greater heating air conditioning, all that stuff's

921
00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:29,140
off, there's office paper, there's anything, thousands of stuff on that source well that

922
00:57:29,140 --> 00:57:36,260
we should have more for it, I mean what good's the equipment, people running a campery.

923
00:57:36,260 --> 00:57:41,060
I think we have them all back, and they're all on service for the last eight months or

924
00:57:41,060 --> 00:57:48,620
so, we've had three or four, and getting service and trying, and getting harder to get parts

925
00:57:48,620 --> 00:57:52,660
for it, they tell me, but.

926
00:57:52,660 --> 00:57:55,500
So we had a motion and a second, all in favor, who's second?

927
00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:57,100
He motioned that second.

928
00:57:57,100 --> 00:57:59,100
Okay.

929
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:00,100
All in favor?

930
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:01,100
Aye.

931
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:02,100
Aye.

932
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:03,100
Aye.

933
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:04,100
Aye.

934
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:05,100
Aye.

935
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,100
Aye.

936
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:07,100
Aye.

937
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:08,100
Aye.

938
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:09,100
Aye.

939
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:10,100
Aye.

940
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:10,560
Aye.