WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:10.280 All right, it is seven o'clock and we will call this meeting to order. 00:10.280 --> 00:13.520 Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:13.520 --> 00:28.520 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:28.520 --> 00:43.520 Any additions or corrections to tonight's agenda? 00:43.520 --> 00:47.520 I have none. 00:47.520 --> 00:50.520 All motion to approve the agenda is written. 00:50.520 --> 00:53.520 All in favor? 00:53.520 --> 00:55.520 Consent agenda. 00:55.520 --> 00:58.520 Should we do you want to do the? 00:58.520 --> 01:01.520 Oh, yes. 01:01.520 --> 01:12.520 We're going to have Jason come up and talk about the 2027 street and utility improvements before we move on to the rest of the meeting. 01:12.520 --> 01:15.520 All right, well, thank you for bringing me up front. 01:15.520 --> 01:17.520 Didn't need to, but I appreciate it. 01:17.520 --> 01:23.520 So I'll kick Clinton each time we want to go to the next slide to just bear with me on that. 01:23.520 --> 01:24.520 All right. 01:24.520 --> 01:25.520 Good evening, everybody. 01:25.520 --> 01:37.520 Jason, I'm right with Bolton and make here to present the preliminary engineering report for our upcoming 2027 street and utility improvements are in the great city of Janesville. 01:37.520 --> 01:42.520 I did update you guys on work that this was coming about a month ago. 01:42.520 --> 01:49.520 And since that time, we've actually did a lot more homework of the project itself. 01:49.520 --> 01:56.520 And they're here to present the one of the first documents for this 2027 project. 01:56.520 --> 02:02.520 This project was that we're talking about here is outlined in the capital improvement plan. 02:02.520 --> 02:08.520 We've been talking about this for many, many years and we are getting towards the end of our capital improvement plan. 02:08.520 --> 02:14.520 And we did make this minor revision and flip flops two of the projects and we've talked about that. 02:14.520 --> 02:22.520 Essentially, the second street project was ahead of this, but due to the water main breaks we've had up on North Street. 02:22.520 --> 02:26.520 Working with staff, it certainly made a lot of sense to flip those. 02:26.520 --> 02:32.520 So the project that we're talking about here is West Street from, or excuse me, West North Street. 02:32.520 --> 02:34.520 Yeah, see, that's where it gets us. 02:34.520 --> 02:39.520 I don't know, North Street from West Street to Craig. 02:39.520 --> 02:45.520 And then that small section of Skukam that is from Mill Street down to South Street itself. 02:45.520 --> 02:53.520 Yeah, so I'll just kind of go through some of the existing conditions that we found here. 02:53.520 --> 03:00.520 So the streets themselves on North Street is about 24 feet wide. 03:00.520 --> 03:09.520 It does not have a curbing gutter and has some significant challenges as far as the crown and how we convey storm water out there. 03:09.520 --> 03:17.520 Understanding that we have is that it was built in 1972 and that's again that's going to be the vintage of the utilities that are underneath it. 03:17.520 --> 03:23.520 Last maintenance on it was 2001 for our knowledge and there was an overlay down on that. 03:23.520 --> 03:29.520 The section of Skukam Street on the south of town is about 18 feet wide with no curbing gutter. 03:29.520 --> 03:34.520 The sidewalks, there's none on North Street. 03:34.520 --> 03:38.520 Some of the boulevards have moderate slopes sloping away from the roadway. 03:38.520 --> 03:44.520 So there's going to be some challenges with sidewalking here and we'll get into those details when we get into the design. 03:44.520 --> 03:49.520 But I can explain that a little bit more on the next slide. 03:49.520 --> 03:56.520 The existing sidewalk on West Skukam consists of one in front of one property itself. 03:56.520 --> 04:02.520 Santa Carrie Sewer, we did some televising of those in 2015. 04:02.520 --> 04:06.520 Many of those pipes segment showed SAGs and infiltration points. 04:06.520 --> 04:14.520 So while it is a PVC pipe built in 1972, I believe that's got to be some of the first PVC pipe that was ever done, 04:14.520 --> 04:18.520 not the same type of quality PVC pipe that we're seeing today. 04:18.520 --> 04:24.520 So when I saw there was PVC, I'm like, well, that's usually not something that we're in the market for replacing. 04:24.520 --> 04:32.520 However, after I did review the televising, it certainly is a path that's useful life with SAGs and infiltration and such. 04:33.520 --> 04:40.520 Skukam itself has that eight inch VCP, petrified clay pipe, and old clay pipe that we're used to seeing. 04:40.520 --> 04:47.520 So again, showing that older vintage that's shown some SAGs in there as well. 04:47.520 --> 04:52.520 Water main itself on North Street is four inch cast iron pipe. 04:52.520 --> 04:58.520 There's been seven water meringue breaks since 2009, three of those within the past year plus. 04:58.520 --> 05:04.520 So that's where, you know, it really comes to fruition that we need to get after this project. 05:04.520 --> 05:11.520 Water main itself is falling apart and water main breaks, I think, are 10 to 12,000 probably on a per each basis, 05:11.520 --> 05:13.520 and any time we've got to fix those. 05:13.520 --> 05:15.520 And that's just a bandage. 05:15.520 --> 05:17.520 So again, research useful life. 05:17.520 --> 05:20.520 And we're also looking at the hydrogen spacing on it. 05:20.520 --> 05:25.520 We'll redo that with the project itself, but right now there's not adequate spacing there. 05:25.520 --> 05:28.520 Skukam Street is a six inch ductile iron. 05:28.520 --> 05:32.520 Records indicators put in in 1982. 05:32.520 --> 05:39.520 So we've seen some of the challenges of that kind of ductile iron pipe on another segment within town 05:39.520 --> 05:41.520 where we've seen some water main breaks. 05:41.520 --> 05:43.520 So again, that's reached its useful life. 05:43.520 --> 05:48.520 And we're going to be upsizing that to the city standard eight inch PVC. 05:48.520 --> 05:53.520 Storm sewer along North Street is a little bit of a mess. 05:53.520 --> 05:55.520 It's broken into two different areas. 05:55.520 --> 06:01.520 I don't get into that a little bit when we get to the proposed conditions on what we're intending on doing there. 06:01.520 --> 06:05.520 So if you want to click through, I think what do we have next? 06:05.520 --> 06:07.520 This will exist in sections. 06:07.520 --> 06:09.520 Yeah, the sections themselves. 06:09.520 --> 06:15.520 So the proposed section is very similar to every other street that we've been reconstructing in town. 06:15.520 --> 06:22.520 We have a city standard of about 34 feet face to face, and that's face of curve to face of curve. 06:22.520 --> 06:27.520 With a five foot walk on one side of the street. 06:27.520 --> 06:30.520 Construction of the sidewalk. 06:30.520 --> 06:34.520 We're anticipating on the south side as adjacent to the city park there. 06:34.520 --> 06:41.520 But once we get into the design, we'll really look at utilities, trees, cross slopes and things like that. 06:41.520 --> 06:48.520 But by and large, I believe the south side is going to make the most sense on North Street because it's adjacent to the park there. 06:48.520 --> 06:50.520 Let's drive away to things like that. 06:50.520 --> 06:54.520 So we'll bring that forward as we get into the design itself. 06:54.520 --> 07:07.520 We'll be holding open houses where we can talk about the impacts of trees, the removal of trees and the construction of any potential retaining walls to install that sidewalk. 07:07.520 --> 07:11.520 The pavement section itself is going to be about the same as what we've done in the past. 07:11.520 --> 07:18.520 A geo grid followed by some inch and a half rock, followed by some class five aggregate, and then the bituminous on top of that. 07:18.520 --> 07:27.520 We found over the past 20 years that that's been a very good section for building roads in the great city of Janesville, understanding our clay soils and such. 07:27.520 --> 07:34.520 We've built some pretty good roads with that, seeing good longevity of those, able to maintain that. 07:34.520 --> 07:44.520 One other thing that I did want to point out in this section is that towards the edge, towards the edge of each side, we do have an under drain underneath the roadway itself. 07:44.520 --> 07:48.520 I was going to ask that question, but thank you. 07:48.520 --> 07:50.520 That's on the typical section. 07:50.520 --> 07:57.520 While it has some storm water conveyance, it allows people to connect their sump pumps to it. 07:57.520 --> 08:01.520 It's mainly to drain the pavement, drain the subsurface. 08:01.520 --> 08:14.520 If we got the clay material on our subgrade here, as water bubbles up, frosts, letting the water out, we allow this drainage layer on the bottom to go out away from our crown and collect in that drain tile. 08:14.520 --> 08:17.520 That goes out to the storm so it gets that out there. 08:17.520 --> 08:25.520 Twofold, we drain the pavement, it increases the life of the pavement, and then it also provides the sump pump connection. 08:25.520 --> 08:29.520 We'll have a connection point to each of the properties that are out there. 08:29.520 --> 08:44.520 If they have a sump pump and that's currently a hose laying across the yard that just may regurgitate through the soils itself, we'll allow a connection point to each property or work with those homeowners that they could connect those. 08:44.520 --> 08:49.520 That's not meant for rough drains or things like that, this is meant for groundwater. 08:49.520 --> 08:59.520 It's been a great addition to the city to maintain our roads and to provide those, because I think we all have those sump pumps. 08:59.520 --> 09:04.520 Sanitary sewer itself, so here, I'll just kind of walk through that. 09:04.520 --> 09:10.520 If you want to go to your exhibit that shows, just come up there if you don't mind. 09:11.520 --> 09:15.520 This shows north street here, so we'll just kind of walk through. 09:15.520 --> 09:18.520 We'll get the sidewalk showing on that south side that's in pink. 09:18.520 --> 09:25.520 Our concrete driveways and driveway approaches are in the blue. 09:25.520 --> 09:33.520 So within each driveway, we'll have a piece to five foot apron, and then we will replace back what the existing conditions are. 09:33.520 --> 09:38.520 Some of these, if they're the luminous, believe the luminous pass the five foot apron. 09:38.520 --> 09:41.520 If it's gravel, it'll be gravel pass the five foot apron. 09:41.520 --> 09:46.520 If it's concrete, their driveway will put concrete past that five foot apron. 09:46.520 --> 09:55.520 On the south side, the fluid different will have concrete up to the sidewalk itself, making sure that that's continuous along this south side there. 09:56.520 --> 10:01.520 Again, high back urban gutter, the P618, which we typically see. 10:01.520 --> 10:12.520 Sanitary sewer within this, the entire stretch runs from east to west all the way down and connects down at west street. 10:12.520 --> 10:22.520 So we'll be putting in a new A H PVC, new water industry sewer services out to the right of the way and connect to those existing ones. 10:23.520 --> 10:26.520 We're going to do a little bit more research through the design. 10:26.520 --> 10:32.520 Exactly identifying where those locations are and do some televising of the individual services themselves. 10:32.520 --> 10:41.520 It provides a lot of good information going into this on what the contractor can expect, and then we also know if there's any of what's called snake services, 10:41.520 --> 10:47.520 where a property may be going across another property before it comes down there below through somebody's backyard. 10:47.520 --> 10:56.520 This seems a bit more straightforward than some of the other projects we've had in town, where maybe it goes from port to chrome and seeing some of those connections that are kind of weird. 10:56.520 --> 11:02.520 This should be fairly straightforward, but that's typical to make sure that we have enough evidence of what's going on out there. 11:02.520 --> 11:06.520 Waterman itself will be another eight inch PVC. 11:06.520 --> 11:10.520 We'll have hydrant spacing to meet the current standards. 11:10.520 --> 11:15.520 I think we're going to get one, two, three, four hydrants along this stretch. 11:15.520 --> 11:20.520 I think right now there's maybe two or three, so we'll add fire protection out there. 11:20.520 --> 11:27.520 We'll have valves to be able to maintain the system and then do one inch water services to each one of the properties. 11:27.520 --> 11:32.520 Pork stop at the main, per stop at the property lines themselves. 11:32.520 --> 11:35.520 Storm sewer is kind of broken up into two segments. 11:35.520 --> 11:38.520 There's kind of a brake line midway. 11:38.520 --> 11:41.520 The eastern portion kind of drains over land. 11:41.520 --> 11:43.520 We're going to have some unique situations. 11:43.520 --> 11:46.520 We're not going to be able to get everything to the road. 11:46.520 --> 11:54.520 We may have to have some catch faces on the backside of the curving gutter on this south side, because it is so much lower than the road itself. 11:54.520 --> 12:04.520 We'll get into that when we get into the design, but essentially this outlets between these properties up to the skull for some provision. 12:04.520 --> 12:05.520 Yeah. 12:05.520 --> 12:08.520 We'll have to look at what this is. 12:08.520 --> 12:14.520 There's got to be some perpetual easement there, but we'll get into the details of the storm sewer outlet. 12:14.520 --> 12:15.520 That's the east side. 12:15.520 --> 12:20.520 West side is going to go from east to west, coming down to West Street. 12:20.520 --> 12:30.520 We'll have new catch faces collecting it halfway, so we're not having a pool of water coming all the way down the road down and inundating this intersection. 12:30.520 --> 12:39.520 We're breaking it up, having some catch faces facing along there, and that will ultimately all led to West Street and so on. 12:39.520 --> 12:44.520 I think that's the improvements themselves on that. 12:44.520 --> 12:59.520 When we're talking about school coming a little bit more straight forward there, the water and the sanitary sewer, we're showing a 34-foot wide road sidewalk on one side connecting here on South Street. 12:59.520 --> 13:04.520 And then the storm sewer all goes down towards South Street that was done. 13:04.520 --> 13:18.520 With that South Street project where we upside the storm sewer in that region, doing the south side drainage improvements in the 90s, when Clinton and I were starting here, 2002. 13:18.520 --> 13:21.520 We started in the 90s. 13:21.520 --> 13:23.520 So, okay, let's see. 13:23.520 --> 13:25.520 We're going to do a nice one where we have. 13:25.520 --> 13:27.520 We have fun stuff. 13:27.520 --> 13:32.520 With that our report, I do talk about permits. 13:32.520 --> 13:35.520 We'll make sure that we get the permits, Department of Health. 13:35.520 --> 13:39.520 I work in West La Seca County on that, and then a storm water permit. 13:39.520 --> 13:50.520 Pennix being in there shows a complete breakdown of the costs themselves of that North Street portion, about 1.7 scoop on streets, about 381,000. 13:50.520 --> 13:56.520 And that includes a 5% contingency, soft costs, and all of those things in there. 13:56.520 --> 13:59.520 So those are the total estimated project costs. 13:59.520 --> 14:02.520 Again, these are engineers' estimates. 14:02.520 --> 14:03.520 It is not. 14:03.520 --> 14:05.520 We have in business projects. 14:05.520 --> 14:19.520 These are estimates that myself and my fellow engineer, Eric Halzer, that's helping me with this project has looked at historic bids over this last year, plus, and then kind of identified based on the size of this project. 14:19.520 --> 14:27.520 The unit price estimates for these were both North Street and Skookam Street itself. 14:27.520 --> 14:34.520 So we're feeling pretty good as about this estimate under today's numbers themselves. 14:34.520 --> 14:41.520 So if we bounce forward, the preliminary assessment role. 14:41.520 --> 14:45.520 So I believe you guys reviewed the assessment policy at the last meeting. 14:45.520 --> 14:46.520 Is that correct? 14:46.520 --> 14:47.520 Yeah. 14:47.520 --> 14:49.520 And adopted that new policy. 14:49.520 --> 14:54.520 The one kind of the one new item to it was, what are we doing with the storm sewer itself? 14:54.520 --> 14:59.520 I like to put 30% on a per each basis for the storm sewer. 14:59.520 --> 15:06.520 So, assessing 30% of the streets of benefiting property owners based on an adjusted footage basis. 15:06.520 --> 15:08.520 So we're looking at the corner lots. 15:08.520 --> 15:10.520 We get the project and Craig Street before. 15:10.520 --> 15:12.520 What are they receiving assessment on? 15:12.520 --> 15:16.520 Making sure that we are following the corner of our policy. 15:16.520 --> 15:21.520 30% of the sand and surface storm and water main based on per parcel basis. 15:21.520 --> 15:23.520 It has nothing to do with front footage. 15:23.520 --> 15:26.520 It has to do on a per parcel basis. 15:26.520 --> 15:37.520 And then the remaining portion itself would be updated by the general fund along with the corresponding enterprise funds for the other utilities themselves. 15:37.520 --> 15:41.520 So with that, we prepared the assessment roles. 15:41.520 --> 15:52.520 We went through and identified each property, our best estimations from the information we have right now on who's getting a sewer service, who's getting a water service with this project. 15:52.520 --> 16:01.520 And putting those in there based on the individual parcels that North Street is. 16:01.520 --> 16:13.520 For us, we have assessments ranging from about 6,000, 15,000 words to 20,000 or so. 16:13.520 --> 16:24.520 And we weren't looking at those total assessment numbers themselves and they have increased since we last did a project here in Jamesville. 16:24.520 --> 16:30.520 Inflation over the past five years and construction prices has been significant. 16:30.520 --> 16:34.520 And so we haven't done a project here in about four or five years. 16:34.520 --> 16:40.520 And so we're seeing a significant uptick in unit prices for work to be done. 16:40.520 --> 16:50.520 So what I really attributed to is I felt like in the early 2000s, we come out of the recession, prices held really steady. 16:50.520 --> 16:54.520 And put together a cost estimate five years later, the cost estimate is the same. 16:54.520 --> 16:57.520 Because there wasn't a huge jump in prices. 16:57.520 --> 17:07.520 Then we got to the recent inflationary jumps and we've seen the construction prices feel like they really caught up to where they probably should have stepped up over time. 17:07.520 --> 17:13.520 So we made a significant jump over this last three, four years in construction prices themselves. 17:13.520 --> 17:15.520 So that's what the market is today. 17:15.520 --> 17:18.520 And so what we've done is followed your assessment policy. 17:18.520 --> 17:22.520 Slide that to the enterprises and the numbers that we're expecting. 17:22.520 --> 17:29.520 Again, we're going to go through the bidding process and then redo the fees or the assessment role itself. 17:29.520 --> 17:31.520 Those will be the numbers of the assessing books. 17:31.520 --> 17:34.520 It's based on actual construction numbers themselves. 17:34.520 --> 17:39.520 So what this is is an estimate based on the information we have here today. 17:39.520 --> 17:43.520 All right. 17:43.520 --> 17:45.520 What do we have? 17:45.520 --> 17:46.520 Go ahead. 17:47.520 --> 17:49.520 We have a park on North Street. 17:49.520 --> 17:50.520 Yep. 17:50.520 --> 17:53.520 I don't believe there's any parking there currently. 17:53.520 --> 17:54.520 Any parking? 17:54.520 --> 17:55.520 Parking. 17:55.520 --> 17:56.520 Yeah. 17:56.520 --> 17:57.520 Yeah. 17:57.520 --> 18:00.520 I mean, now with no car being just parked in the ground. 18:00.520 --> 18:01.520 Right. 18:01.520 --> 18:07.520 So they'll be parking on the street now that we have the 34-volt wide road. 18:07.520 --> 18:10.520 Are you talking about putting some lanes in there? 18:10.520 --> 18:17.520 That's, well, that's a question for us to decide if we want to go forward with that. 18:17.520 --> 18:23.520 Also, we need to have, we should put a tap in so that we don't have to dig the street up. 18:23.520 --> 18:27.520 Should we want to put a restroom in there with sewer and water? 18:27.520 --> 18:28.520 Yeah. 18:28.520 --> 18:30.520 He doesn't have those shown here. 18:30.520 --> 18:31.520 But we will have those. 18:31.520 --> 18:32.520 We talked about those. 18:32.520 --> 18:33.520 Yeah. 18:33.520 --> 18:34.520 It's not illustrated here, but I'll make sure. 18:34.520 --> 18:36.520 We're going to put a sewer and water stuff to it. 18:36.520 --> 18:38.520 You don't have to dig up the road. 18:38.520 --> 18:39.520 Yeah. 18:39.520 --> 18:44.520 So, I know the bathroom isn't currently being used, but again, in the future, we're looking 18:44.520 --> 18:52.520 at any improvements of that park that sewer and water would be extended to it. 18:52.520 --> 18:56.520 So, I understand the business, you know, just being able to pull off to the side and have 18:56.520 --> 18:57.520 that. 18:57.520 --> 18:58.520 Now we're going to have a defined road. 18:58.520 --> 19:02.520 There's going to be ample parking on 7 road. 19:02.520 --> 19:03.520 It's held. 19:03.520 --> 19:05.520 So, I mean, there's certainly enough for one side. 19:05.520 --> 19:09.520 There is one enough for two-way traffic parking on both sides. 19:09.520 --> 19:11.520 We are not going to restrict it. 19:11.520 --> 19:14.520 You know, this is a very residential road, right? 19:14.520 --> 19:19.520 So, if we did have people parked on both sides, you know, it's not going to be lying the 19:19.520 --> 19:20.520 entire distance. 19:20.520 --> 19:22.520 So, vehicles can weave in and out. 19:22.520 --> 19:25.520 I think that's very similar to all the other roads in town. 19:25.520 --> 19:29.520 So, there will be enough parking, you know, on both sides of that road. 19:29.520 --> 19:31.520 I'm not sure what you're seeing out there. 19:31.520 --> 19:34.520 Are you seeing more than 10 cars at any one given time? 19:34.520 --> 19:41.520 For a long time, that was the through for farmers coming from east to west is down north 19:41.520 --> 19:42.520 street. 19:42.520 --> 19:43.520 Still is. 19:43.520 --> 19:44.520 Yeah. 19:44.520 --> 19:45.520 Yeah. 19:45.520 --> 19:52.520 Because you can't get under the trestle and going down the old new, or county road 14 is not 19:52.520 --> 19:53.520 advisable. 19:53.520 --> 19:58.520 The north street is the access for farm vehicles going from west to east. 19:58.520 --> 20:03.520 There is no place to cross until you get to lesion. 20:03.520 --> 20:05.520 Or you got to go down all the way to. 20:05.520 --> 20:10.520 So, they go on north street south and north wood, come up and go across and they do that 20:10.520 --> 20:11.520 job. 20:11.520 --> 20:16.520 They come in on west street and then they come down west north and then go across. 20:16.520 --> 20:17.520 Okay. 20:17.520 --> 20:19.520 And up, what is that, 19? 20:19.520 --> 20:20.520 Yeah. 20:20.520 --> 20:23.520 So, that is a bypass for several. 20:23.520 --> 20:25.520 I'm not sure a lot. 20:25.520 --> 20:32.520 I know there's more of them going down old 14, though, just because it's wider. 20:32.520 --> 20:36.520 And once you get through town, old 14 is decent. 20:36.520 --> 20:37.520 Yeah. 20:37.520 --> 20:38.520 Yep. 20:38.520 --> 20:41.520 Because then people can pass and now we have a bypass shoulder. 20:41.520 --> 20:44.520 So, that should improve down to there. 20:44.520 --> 20:46.520 Also, they were going through what is it? 20:46.520 --> 20:48.520 Prairie Lane or whatever. 20:48.520 --> 20:49.520 It is. 20:49.520 --> 20:50.520 Prairie Circle. 20:50.520 --> 20:51.520 Oh. 20:51.520 --> 20:52.520 Didn't know that. 20:52.520 --> 20:53.520 Mm-hmm. 20:53.520 --> 20:54.520 Mm-hmm. 20:54.520 --> 20:55.520 Mm-hmm. 20:55.520 --> 20:58.520 Well, that's really wide enough, is it? 20:58.520 --> 21:00.520 What do you not permit parking? 21:00.520 --> 21:01.520 Yeah. 21:01.520 --> 21:03.520 I mean, I think it's, I definitely think it's wide enough. 21:03.520 --> 21:06.520 Right now, we have a 24-foot wide road that's been functioning out there. 21:06.520 --> 21:08.520 They could pull off to the side. 21:08.520 --> 21:13.520 But, you know, we're adding another 10 feet, you know, of dedicated pavement itself. 21:13.520 --> 21:16.520 So, yeah. 21:16.520 --> 21:17.520 All right. 21:17.520 --> 21:19.520 So, the last, what is it, one of the last slides we have? 21:19.520 --> 21:20.520 There's a schedule itself. 21:20.520 --> 21:22.520 Oh, we need to figure it out. 21:22.520 --> 21:23.520 So, here we are. 21:23.520 --> 21:25.520 I presented the feasibility report. 21:25.520 --> 21:26.520 That's in here. 21:26.520 --> 21:29.520 That's on 8.10 tonight, where I have a resolution in front. 21:29.520 --> 21:33.520 I have a resolution in front of you to accept that report and call for the improvement hearing 21:33.520 --> 21:34.520 itself. 21:34.520 --> 21:37.520 We're going to be advertising that, and then we're going to hold the improvement hearing 21:37.520 --> 21:41.520 here at City Hall that comes from meeting on the 14th. 21:41.520 --> 21:43.520 You still have that meeting on that night? 21:43.520 --> 21:44.520 Yep. 21:44.520 --> 21:45.520 It doesn't have to move. 21:45.520 --> 21:46.520 Okay. 21:46.520 --> 21:47.520 So, we'll plan on that. 21:47.520 --> 21:49.520 I will present a very similar presentation. 21:49.520 --> 21:51.520 This will be open to the public. 21:51.520 --> 21:53.520 Open to the residents. 21:53.520 --> 21:55.520 We'll be sending out notices to them. 21:55.520 --> 22:01.520 I'll have essentially the similar information explaining this to the public and the property 22:01.520 --> 22:03.520 owners that are out there. 22:03.520 --> 22:07.520 So, at that time, I will listen to any comments that they may have. 22:07.520 --> 22:13.520 At that time, it'll be up to you guys if you want to move forward with the authorizing 22:13.520 --> 22:17.520 of the plans and specifications after that hearing. 22:17.520 --> 22:22.520 So, if we're talking about the September 14th, we continue to move forward. 22:22.520 --> 22:24.520 We'll start the design. 22:24.520 --> 22:27.520 We'll do the surveying of it right away. 22:27.520 --> 22:32.520 Get a good 60% design done. 22:32.520 --> 22:38.520 And then we're going to hold an open house here at City Hall, November, early December, 22:38.520 --> 22:41.520 staying away from Thanksgiving or Christmas. 22:41.520 --> 22:46.520 That'll be allow a more informal opportunity for property owners to come in. 22:46.520 --> 22:48.520 We'll have boards of the improvements. 22:48.520 --> 22:49.520 They can talk to designers. 22:49.520 --> 22:50.520 They can talk to Clinton. 22:50.520 --> 22:51.520 They can talk to myself. 22:51.520 --> 22:55.520 Ask those individual questions that isn't such a formal hearing process. 22:55.520 --> 22:57.520 So, we found that to be very beneficial. 22:57.520 --> 23:01.520 It's allowing property owners to learn more about the project. 23:01.520 --> 23:05.520 I mean, I put themselves in that myself in their position. 23:05.520 --> 23:09.520 If I don't know what's going on, you know, I'm saying that it causes a lot of anxiety. 23:09.520 --> 23:15.520 So, while we've been through this and we know what's going on, explaining that to them 23:15.520 --> 23:19.520 and, you know, answering those general questions goes a long ways. 23:19.520 --> 23:25.520 We're going to also hold another open house just prior to construction here. 23:25.520 --> 23:27.520 So, we're going to be doing it in December. 23:27.520 --> 23:30.520 Then we're going to open the bids in March. 23:30.520 --> 23:32.520 We're going to hold that assessment hearing in April. 23:32.520 --> 23:35.520 Those meet those final assessment numbers. 23:35.520 --> 23:39.520 And then we'll have this construction open house and just prior to construction. 23:39.520 --> 23:44.520 So, you know, if we talked about it in November, all of a sudden it's May. 23:44.520 --> 23:45.520 What the heck do we talk about it? 23:45.520 --> 23:47.520 I forget what they said. 23:47.520 --> 23:51.520 It allows them another opportunity to refresh their questions as we're getting closer to 23:51.520 --> 23:53.520 backhoe showing up in town in the road getting dugout. 23:53.520 --> 23:59.520 So, finding that those two opportunities to answer questions goes a long ways to 23:59.520 --> 24:05.520 keeping the phone calls at a dull roar through construction and just educating people 24:05.520 --> 24:07.520 on what's going on. 24:07.520 --> 24:09.520 So, stands for completion. 24:09.520 --> 24:13.520 We're looking at probably having probably the first part of October. 24:13.520 --> 24:16.520 And then the final definition is the following year. 24:16.520 --> 24:20.520 We're going to put on that last layer of the two minutes pavement itself. 24:20.520 --> 24:25.520 So, we allow that one seed in a freeze-thaw or digging utilities, things like that. 24:25.520 --> 24:30.520 So, if there's any settlement that happens over that first year, then we put that final surface on 24:30.520 --> 24:31.520 to have a nice crown road. 24:31.520 --> 24:37.520 So, I think that should do my slides. 24:37.520 --> 24:39.520 I got anything else? 24:39.520 --> 24:41.520 Questions, comments, concerns, or compliments? 24:41.520 --> 24:42.520 Yep. 24:42.520 --> 24:43.520 Top compliment. 24:43.520 --> 24:44.520 That's not on there. 24:44.520 --> 24:46.520 I'll have that next time. 24:46.520 --> 24:48.520 Invisible lake. 24:48.520 --> 24:49.520 All right. 24:49.520 --> 24:50.520 Anything else? 24:50.520 --> 24:53.520 Anybody have any thoughts, questions? 24:53.520 --> 24:55.520 We're following the same process. 24:55.520 --> 25:00.520 We've been doing on many projects and I have done a lot of projects in town and, you know, 25:00.520 --> 25:04.520 we're not saying we're perfect at any of this, but I think we've learned from years past 25:04.520 --> 25:09.520 and this one, we're going to just take everything we've learned in the past and try and deliver 25:09.520 --> 25:13.520 a good project to yourself. 25:13.520 --> 25:18.520 Otherwise, thanks for your time and I'll look forward to entertaining that resolution 25:18.520 --> 25:20.520 and we'll get that advertisement going. 25:20.520 --> 25:21.520 Yep. 25:21.520 --> 25:23.520 So, number resolution number 25 is attached. 25:23.520 --> 25:28.520 It accepts Jason's report that he just gave and it also calls for the improvement hearing 25:28.520 --> 25:31.520 on September 14th. 25:31.520 --> 25:37.520 I'll make a motion to approve resolution 25. 25:37.520 --> 25:38.520 Second. 25:38.520 --> 25:39.520 All in favor? 25:39.520 --> 25:40.520 Aye. 25:40.520 --> 25:41.520 All right. 25:41.520 --> 25:42.520 Thank you. 25:42.520 --> 25:43.520 Yep. 25:43.520 --> 25:44.520 Thank you. 25:44.520 --> 25:45.520 Thank you. 25:45.520 --> 25:53.520 Moving back up. 25:53.520 --> 25:56.520 Consent agenda. 25:56.520 --> 25:58.520 All right. 25:58.520 --> 26:01.520 Attached are the minutes from our last meeting and I do have to point out. 26:01.520 --> 26:07.520 I noticed that we have to put Sarah Joel's name on the minutes so we did that all right. 26:07.520 --> 26:12.520 So, with tonight's minutes just include Sarah Joel as attending at our last meeting. 26:12.520 --> 26:20.520 Other than that, we basically have the routine regular bills totaling about 89,000 this 26:20.520 --> 26:21.520 time. 26:21.520 --> 26:23.520 Any questions? 26:23.520 --> 26:30.520 What is the 694 Pearson acres? 26:31.520 --> 26:35.520 Oh, we had to look at some sort of things. 26:35.520 --> 26:43.520 Oh, it only helped us with it. 26:43.520 --> 26:49.520 It would just be a normal cost for us on the development. 26:49.520 --> 26:50.520 Yep. 26:50.520 --> 26:53.520 It counts payable. 26:53.520 --> 26:56.520 It comes up pre-taxed daycare withholding. 26:57.520 --> 27:06.520 What is nobody on city staff doing daycare that I didn't think or how does that affect 27:06.520 --> 27:07.520 us? 27:07.520 --> 27:08.520 Yeah. 27:08.520 --> 27:13.520 If you have daycare, you can take it out of your check. 27:13.520 --> 27:15.520 Pre-taxed. 27:15.520 --> 27:20.520 And then that's basically a withdrawal that we put into for. 27:20.520 --> 27:25.520 Yeah, we have to put a few actually that. 27:26.520 --> 27:36.520 There they are. 27:36.520 --> 27:44.520 Rental inspections. 27:44.520 --> 27:49.520 Let's see. 27:49.520 --> 27:51.520 I guess it's even never mind. 27:51.520 --> 27:55.520 I was looking at it as being down and it's not. 27:55.520 --> 27:57.520 So where is it? 27:57.520 --> 28:03.520 Year to date amount is 975. 28:03.520 --> 28:06.520 So yeah, we're down. 28:06.520 --> 28:09.520 Well, from our budgeted amount. 28:09.520 --> 28:15.520 Yeah, and that's kind of a cycle thing where we will have several rental inspections. 28:15.520 --> 28:16.520 All in one. 28:16.520 --> 28:30.520 That that's the building official, the building official doing the inspection cost that. 28:30.520 --> 28:39.520 I think that was all I had for budget. 28:39.520 --> 28:42.520 My motion to approve the consent agenda. 28:42.520 --> 28:44.520 All in favour? 28:44.520 --> 28:55.520 Aye 28:55.520 --> 28:59.520 public forum, do we have anybody here that would like to speak through public forum? 28:59.520 --> 29:11.060 last chance moving on notices and communications I have none council 29:11.060 --> 29:22.000 reports I have to report that I took an extra long nap and was late for the 29:22.000 --> 29:27.280 UDA meeting so we didn't have a quorum so they didn't have a meeting 29:27.280 --> 29:42.300 however we did listen to a gentleman present on daycare daycare daycare 29:42.860 --> 29:53.180 bringing he was reporting he worked with Mapleton and Mapleton has built a 29:53.180 --> 29:59.860 house and they rent it to a daycare operator to establish a daycare center 29:59.860 --> 30:07.720 for 10 to 12 kids in their community and it's possible something like that could 30:07.720 --> 30:13.720 work for our community it would be a step in the right direction to get a daycare 30:13.720 --> 30:19.880 or a new daycare in town if the city would build a house and we're not talking a 30:19.880 --> 30:25.280 large house we're talking eight to nine hundred square feet is what he had is 30:25.280 --> 30:34.480 what Mapleton has so we're continue to investigate that 30:34.480 --> 30:44.560 guys what do you have anything any commission met but what we talked about 30:44.560 --> 30:50.480 will be doing later in the meeting sure by the way congratulations for quite a 30:50.480 --> 30:56.400 performance on the music in a park yes the park board excel that the this in the 30:56.400 --> 31:03.880 park and days old night out couldn't throw hot dogs at the people fast yeah 31:03.880 --> 31:08.040 leave they went they went pretty good anybody wanted to know we handed over to 31:08.040 --> 31:19.840 240 hot dogs some of it all of water chips in 40 minutes I think based on my 31:19.840 --> 31:25.280 conversations with Paul we're gonna try not to ourselves next year you get the 31:25.280 --> 31:29.840 weather we have the other night exactly the conversations left to have this year 31:29.840 --> 31:38.800 the attendance was close to between 550 and 600 people which is phenomenal we 31:38.800 --> 31:43.360 had quite a turnout from out of town so we're pulling from the strong area even 31:43.360 --> 31:48.440 as far as Mankato we're gonna have to add some extra streets so they have a 31:48.440 --> 32:05.080 place to park yeah okay after January we can put six spaces down on North 32:05.080 --> 32:18.280 Park I had a utility board meeting last week just a lot of the I think we paid 32:18.280 --> 32:26.800 some bills for the substation project we had a little setback with our led 32:26.800 --> 32:32.880 service line money from the state so that's gonna get pushed back I believe 32:32.960 --> 32:43.200 just a lot of it's the water yeah the service lines we they were talking 32:43.200 --> 32:47.680 about how they're buying off the grid or through their broker I should say 32:47.680 --> 32:51.720 there's a lot of things that I'm kind of getting up to speed on that are 32:51.720 --> 33:00.560 interesting but pretty routine in nature the most part the personnel 33:00.560 --> 33:04.720 committee will be talking about that here shortly 33:09.360 --> 33:13.600 the administrative report um can we have Kelly go first if she doesn't have to 33:13.600 --> 33:17.520 zero on it we can 33:19.360 --> 33:23.320 department had we have Kelly here with the library 33:23.320 --> 33:27.760 thank you here with the library just to kind of give an update of how the summer 33:27.760 --> 33:33.680 went we had a great summer so like a typical month we have like a little 33:33.680 --> 33:39.000 patron counter you know when you go in and out what typical month can be a good 33:39.000 --> 33:47.040 three four hundred between June and July we had eighteen hundred so very good 33:47.040 --> 33:56.960 June and July we had 109 kids dying up that's ages three to eighteen and last 33:56.960 --> 34:02.840 year was 92 so we're up as well as we had 82 finishers and we're up from last 34:02.840 --> 34:10.840 year where we had 72 finishers that's great we had a lot of duplicate finishers 34:10.840 --> 34:16.680 because the prizes were super exciting this year we had a dinosaur lamp for 34:16.680 --> 34:24.640 ages three to nine ages 10 to 12 we had a beginner 3d printer and ages 13 to 18 34:24.640 --> 34:30.440 we had a candle paper white I will report back that the 3d printer has been 34:30.440 --> 34:36.760 used 22 times now the mom was in today so the individual that one is absolutely 34:36.760 --> 34:42.680 loving it the candle paper white I just helped the patron today connected to 34:42.680 --> 34:48.640 their Libby app so we're already using the Kindle as well so it's been great I 34:48.640 --> 34:54.040 had about 25 events not including passive events so like the scavenger 34:54.040 --> 35:00.280 hunt that I do and with the 25 events we had almost 530 attendees so that averages 35:00.280 --> 35:07.120 you know about 21 attendees per event so overall just a really great summer our 35:07.120 --> 35:12.080 library carnival was very successful even though it was horribly hot I felt 35:12.080 --> 35:18.560 horrible but you can't replay on something like that so we still had over 35:18.560 --> 35:25.280 120 individuals come so overall I've had a lot of compliments from the kids 35:25.280 --> 35:31.960 and the parents are appreciative as well that was our summer anything else that 35:31.960 --> 35:38.440 you'd like to ask me what can you print with your 3d printer I think he's 35:38.440 --> 35:44.240 printing a lot of toys but like you can do a wide variety of stuff with it so if 35:44.240 --> 35:48.440 I needed a bearing holder for my lawnmower I could come in and do that just 35:48.440 --> 35:51.520 take out your checkbook 35:52.720 --> 35:58.960 I'm just asking the question you can get the film into the printer to make all 35:58.960 --> 36:05.000 your little bits and bobs if you want to program it yes we'll print that is there 36:05.000 --> 36:11.760 anything you need from us so oh I'll back Kate my head email me what of the 36:11.760 --> 36:19.480 list and I sent it to her she was looking into grants so what is the 36:19.480 --> 36:23.520 status I think she's going to plan on presenting at the next council meeting 36:23.520 --> 36:28.680 she's still gathering up some things with the grants and the application stuff so 36:28.680 --> 36:35.120 that should be coming here shortly okay that's great I mean now it's like that 36:36.120 --> 36:42.200 otherwise you think dire of pressing no I mean just the overall stuff that you 36:42.200 --> 36:48.480 all know about so is there one thing you can get a point that's brought your 36:48.480 --> 37:00.680 numbers up so high attendance I tried to do about one a day that we're open 37:06.120 --> 37:11.200 very good I'm sure I was out on medical leave for a couple of months and I'm sure 37:11.200 --> 37:19.760 everyone was kind of glad that I was back so but yes I try and trash well 37:19.760 --> 37:23.400 thank you thank you thank you appreciate it thank you all community 37:23.400 --> 37:31.240 appreciates it oh let's see here now it's your turn came 37:31.320 --> 37:36.040 minister to report you have in the packet tonight the July reconciliation for the 37:36.040 --> 37:38.960 bank thanks Kelly 37:43.120 --> 37:51.880 there we go the cash balance from last Friday the certificate that the golf 37:51.880 --> 37:57.280 course did receive for the best of on the set the clubhouse right now that that 37:57.280 --> 38:02.800 came here I think eight or nine days ago I can't read that thing because 38:02.800 --> 38:08.120 clearance of that oh I have in last meeting us that we send a personal 38:08.120 --> 38:13.760 thank you to representative Keith Allen so we did that put a copy of that in 38:13.760 --> 38:20.440 your and Caitlin put together a six-month building permit report that she 38:20.440 --> 38:24.560 showed the Planning Commission last week so I included that in the report 38:24.560 --> 38:32.960 tonight CARES Act the federal government gave us money for you know 38:32.960 --> 38:39.080 COVID relief we obviously had a report on what we were spending that money on I 38:39.080 --> 38:44.160 did get a notification last week that we have officially gone through that 38:44.160 --> 38:53.360 program and we were approved or whatever so it's it's done and I'm not going to 38:53.360 --> 38:56.920 get into this vote I just put some info on there and James on they know it but 38:56.920 --> 39:01.920 Kylie did a good job with that so that's all I have 39:01.920 --> 39:05.540 no incriminating evidence from back of our packages and follow up being in 39:05.540 --> 39:18.140 the corner motion to approve administrator report second all in 39:18.140 --> 39:20.420 your favor 39:28.620 --> 39:39.380 we already did that variants for JD 3 properties yes JD 3 properties 39:39.380 --> 39:46.060 on jangel hard work they I'm just going to pull up the diagram they own a small 39:46.060 --> 39:51.700 lot just behind their building on the other side of the alley 39:52.780 --> 39:58.500 here's a hardware store right here they're looking to put a storage shed there 39:58.500 --> 40:07.660 so they can store some store items the front yard setback they are requesting 40:07.660 --> 40:11.940 a variance on so they can actually build a building there I mean a lot so 40:11.940 --> 40:16.540 small if you followed all the setbacks you wouldn't get a very big building in 40:16.540 --> 40:21.580 there so the planning commission held their home hearing last Wednesday there 40:21.580 --> 40:28.180 was no one in attendance and also staff did not receive any phone calls or 40:28.180 --> 40:32.220 visits you know for people prior to the hearing so the planning commission does 40:32.220 --> 40:37.180 recommend approval on the various will be approved by adopting the resolution 40:37.180 --> 40:43.780 and then either Caitlin and I will record it at the county so that it's 40:43.780 --> 40:49.940 permanently on that property anything Jennifer did I miss anything I know 40:49.940 --> 40:54.180 but I do have one question we're earning a comment that Caitlin made as a planning 40:54.180 --> 40:58.900 commission that I didn't catch until after the meeting was over she made a comment 40:58.900 --> 41:26.100 that there are I think it is her side but let me look I was thinking it was 41:26.100 --> 41:31.940 forefoot for side but I could be definitely wrong 41:31.940 --> 41:47.140 B2 right yeah I'm going to sit down with a lax 41:47.140 --> 42:04.620 application oh yeah yeah I'll whatever speed 42:04.620 --> 42:18.660 Clinton okay side yard 42:19.300 --> 42:33.260 seven feet come in tomorrow look it up 42:34.620 --> 42:59.420 okay I know the central business district they have zero 43:04.620 --> 43:09.180 well do you want us to look at that and then we can maybe do this at the next 43:09.180 --> 43:13.700 meeting if we have to change some wording on the resolution does that 43:13.700 --> 43:31.100 make sense so what was presented to the to the Commission front yard okay 43:34.620 --> 44:04.580 I guess my my personal take is if the if the planning Commission is okay with 44:05.300 --> 44:11.260 what was given we didn't have any problem we talked at length about it and it all 44:11.260 --> 44:19.780 seen okay you know reasonable and what is it 208 market would have been the only 44:19.780 --> 44:24.500 concern that any of us hadn't they never showed up or so-called why don't we do 44:24.500 --> 44:29.860 this Jennifer let's use this diagram user diagram yeah we'll use the highlighted 44:29.940 --> 44:35.540 I agree with that and then we can make sure that your diagram was the standard 44:35.540 --> 44:40.500 that we're setting for a set back I wouldn't make that motion that we use 44:40.500 --> 44:45.700 that as a standard very setback that yes yeah that's what the plan Commission 44:45.700 --> 44:53.060 approved so that's my motion to prove with that diagram were you thinking of 44:53.060 --> 45:00.340 making your shed bigger no no I don't think we had it maybe thought about 45:00.340 --> 45:05.860 the flag it further south not changing the side of the little of the flag it 45:05.860 --> 45:09.300 just that your brother's house to be allowed for a little bit of parking but 45:09.300 --> 45:14.740 it's we work in the building to with them all around otherwise we can stick to 45:14.740 --> 45:19.620 what I had purples on there on there I would guess you want to get a 45:19.620 --> 45:23.940 construction going as soon as possible that would be that that's what that 45:23.940 --> 45:28.580 would my thinking behind your not wanting to the lake that's two more 45:28.580 --> 45:31.220 weeks is the next lap to the north yours 45:31.220 --> 45:37.300 no let's see the city guys park there oh geez those city guns yeah 45:37.300 --> 45:42.980 see I've only ever really have seen one or two vehicles there never 45:42.980 --> 45:44.980 thought 45:48.340 --> 45:54.100 Clinton do you know I forgot to ask the plan Commission between the parking lot 45:54.100 --> 45:58.260 which apparently is the banks and that lot are there 45:58.260 --> 46:02.260 dividers there are the concrete stoppers there is a 46:02.260 --> 46:06.660 or is it just go from a rail fence is there between the parking lot in your 46:06.660 --> 46:10.180 and your building are there the concrete stoppers or just go from like paid 46:10.180 --> 46:24.580 met the graph there's nothing I guess if this works 46:24.580 --> 46:28.500 I quote now would be the time if you did want to shift it one way or the other 46:28.500 --> 46:32.020 to tell us so we can ponder on that well I think you're 46:32.020 --> 46:41.540 diagram should work right yeah that diagram works okay 46:41.540 --> 46:45.540 okay I just wanted to be fair and get that 46:45.540 --> 46:49.220 opening if she wants it to be six feet on one side four feet down the other 46:49.220 --> 46:54.180 no don't work the way it's wrong okay I believe 46:54.180 --> 47:00.900 motion was made by Jim seconded all in favor 47:00.900 --> 47:06.420 all right all right most carries for zero 47:06.420 --> 47:10.980 thank you for pointing that out 47:11.940 --> 47:15.940 well later it'd be a big problem right 47:15.940 --> 47:26.500 a new portion of the 2027 budget yeah so what we're looking at tonight is a 47:26.500 --> 47:30.500 community development so that would be the EDA and also planning and zoning 47:30.500 --> 47:35.700 basically Caitlin right um I did put some more money in this year's budget for 47:35.700 --> 47:40.900 her training because of previous year's cedar would have paid for the training 47:40.900 --> 47:46.500 of the employee you know but now Caitlin's ours so I did put some money in for 47:46.500 --> 47:48.980 training and the only other thing I wanted to bring 47:48.980 --> 47:53.060 off is that if if you recall on scott moles the 47:53.060 --> 47:57.540 development in northwood we had some incentive money 47:57.540 --> 48:02.180 in this budget once he got a certificate of occupancy for one of the buildings 48:02.180 --> 48:08.340 he built and sold he would get money from us as an incentive to 48:08.340 --> 48:11.860 keep him going um he's looking at possibly doing 48:11.860 --> 48:18.180 a similar setup just next door so he was wondering if the city council 48:18.180 --> 48:23.380 would be willing to include that again next year so 48:23.380 --> 48:28.420 if you're okay with that I did put more money into that miscellaneous line item 48:28.420 --> 48:33.540 towards the bottom here basically I doubled it 48:34.180 --> 48:40.500 so and would that be out there for anybody that 48:40.500 --> 48:45.140 wanted to develop um it was in his developer's agreement so it was for him 48:45.140 --> 48:50.420 okay are you saying he wants to put another screen in or another unit like 48:50.420 --> 48:54.100 he has yeah so he has the property right next to him now 48:54.100 --> 48:59.540 right and he's gonna do like five or six more I was under the belief that 48:59.540 --> 49:03.940 he had the space in between also 49:04.420 --> 49:08.980 between there and a choice green oh I don't think so 49:08.980 --> 49:16.500 okay well it would go to the east right yeah so it would be that 49:16.500 --> 49:20.740 well you'll elaborate next to him right yeah but there's a lot of space in there 49:20.740 --> 49:24.260 for multiple houses and it'd be nice to see that 49:24.260 --> 49:29.860 come under developing the two whoever owns it 49:29.860 --> 49:34.500 so because he has room for to the west too for another 49:34.500 --> 49:39.620 he doesn't have any multiple to all of it yeah like he has now has there 49:39.620 --> 49:45.220 yes okay next to barbs 49:45.220 --> 49:54.100 we have any further discussion on that 49:55.300 --> 50:00.180 I'm looking at the bottom line community development and you're saying a 31 50:00.180 --> 50:03.780 percent decrease but the numbers look like they're going out it's an 50:03.780 --> 50:10.740 increase I just saw that 50:14.980 --> 50:20.580 well for the lack of opportunity for development that we have I feel that 50:20.580 --> 50:24.660 we should encourage it as much as possible 50:24.660 --> 50:27.300 in my opinion 50:27.300 --> 50:32.020 if you don't encourage them it will look at others as 50:32.820 --> 50:37.620 and anything we can encourage have development in the community 50:37.620 --> 50:41.620 it's better for the whole community 50:41.620 --> 50:47.140 and if he's going to have multiple drawings of $18,000 that you're putting in 50:47.140 --> 50:51.140 extra this is pretty pretty quick 50:51.140 --> 50:54.820 a standard house if you have a $300 house 50:54.820 --> 50:59.700 probably going to have what $2,000 of city taxes 50:59.700 --> 51:05.460 of all 2,500 maybe so you know you put five or six houses in there 51:05.460 --> 51:10.340 you recover that money really quickly you don't build them 51:10.340 --> 51:14.420 and you don't get that expansion of base and you don't get that 51:14.420 --> 51:17.620 incoming you don't get those people in town so 51:17.620 --> 51:22.900 I think it's money well spent just the perspective 51:22.900 --> 51:26.740 yes I kind of view it as this is something in this pledge a long time ago 51:26.740 --> 51:29.540 when he started and we should follow through with it 51:29.540 --> 51:33.780 I agree so yeah I think that's a really good 51:33.780 --> 51:36.340 in fact addition to good 51:40.500 --> 51:43.780 any more discussion on that 51:45.380 --> 51:49.700 public safety oh yeah just want to give you a verbal 51:49.700 --> 51:54.740 okay I'm sorry go ahead um we had a total of six applications come in for 51:54.740 --> 51:58.260 police chief I would like to interview five 51:58.260 --> 52:03.060 um the committee that was interested in helping with the interviews are still 52:03.060 --> 52:05.940 interested so if it's okay with the council 52:05.940 --> 52:09.700 I'm going to get in touch with all five of those and I would really like to do 52:09.700 --> 52:13.300 some interviews like that third or fourth week of 52:13.300 --> 52:15.620 August 52:16.180 --> 52:19.860 I mean it's a couple weeks away but if we can try to get them all on one day or 52:19.860 --> 52:21.700 one afternoon that'd be awesome 52:21.700 --> 52:23.700 personnel did with this 52:23.700 --> 52:27.460 personnel did at that time frame well we didn't have a personnel committee 52:27.460 --> 52:31.460 meeting just because this kind of came up Friday 52:31.460 --> 52:35.540 no Thursday Friday so if you're okay with that um 52:35.540 --> 52:40.260 Andy and Ivan are on the committee and then Jeremy earlier 52:40.260 --> 52:43.540 sheriff doulas and then an individual from the council the government 52:43.540 --> 52:46.100 some and kato 52:48.100 --> 52:51.940 part of this let's do group 52:51.940 --> 52:55.540 well well I don't even say when I enter the room 52:55.540 --> 53:00.900 calls I said well I'm definitely in favor of that 53:00.900 --> 53:06.020 Ivan yeah you can get the date picked out let me know 53:06.020 --> 53:11.620 yep let's get her moving 53:12.340 --> 53:18.420 uh is there anything else no uh Clinton I'm not here on Thursday I 53:18.420 --> 53:21.540 brought the signs in for farmers market okay 53:21.540 --> 53:25.460 somebody left for tomorrow okay yep 53:26.660 --> 53:30.580 all right sorry I'm gone no he can go out there with us 53:30.580 --> 53:36.580 yeah well I didn't think he's the manager you should be able to find 53:36.580 --> 53:40.180 somebody to do it right there you go