All right, it is seven o'clock and we will call this meeting to order.
Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Any additions or corrections to tonight's agenda?
I have none.
All motion to approve the agenda is written.
All in favor?
Consent agenda.
Should we do you want to do the?
Oh, yes.
We're going to have Jason come up and talk about the 2027 street and utility improvements before we move on to the rest of the meeting.
All right, well, thank you for bringing me up front.
Didn't need to, but I appreciate it.
So I'll kick Clinton each time we want to go to the next slide to just bear with me on that.
All right.
Good evening, everybody.
Jason, I'm right with Bolton and make here to present the preliminary engineering report for our upcoming 2027 street and utility improvements are in the great city of Janesville.
I did update you guys on work that this was coming about a month ago.
And since that time, we've actually did a lot more homework of the project itself.
And they're here to present the one of the first documents for this 2027 project.
This project was that we're talking about here is outlined in the capital improvement plan.
We've been talking about this for many, many years and we are getting towards the end of our capital improvement plan.
And we did make this minor revision and flip flops two of the projects and we've talked about that.
Essentially, the second street project was ahead of this, but due to the water main breaks we've had up on North Street.
Working with staff, it certainly made a lot of sense to flip those.
So the project that we're talking about here is West Street from, or excuse me, West North Street.
Yeah, see, that's where it gets us.
I don't know, North Street from West Street to Craig.
And then that small section of Skukam that is from Mill Street down to South Street itself.
Yeah, so I'll just kind of go through some of the existing conditions that we found here.
So the streets themselves on North Street is about 24 feet wide.
It does not have a curbing gutter and has some significant challenges as far as the crown and how we convey storm water out there.
Understanding that we have is that it was built in 1972 and that's again that's going to be the vintage of the utilities that are underneath it.
Last maintenance on it was 2001 for our knowledge and there was an overlay down on that.
The section of Skukam Street on the south of town is about 18 feet wide with no curbing gutter.
The sidewalks, there's none on North Street.
Some of the boulevards have moderate slopes sloping away from the roadway.
So there's going to be some challenges with sidewalking here and we'll get into those details when we get into the design.
But I can explain that a little bit more on the next slide.
The existing sidewalk on West Skukam consists of one in front of one property itself.
Santa Carrie Sewer, we did some televising of those in 2015.
Many of those pipes segment showed SAGs and infiltration points.
So while it is a PVC pipe built in 1972, I believe that's got to be some of the first PVC pipe that was ever done,
not the same type of quality PVC pipe that we're seeing today.
So when I saw there was PVC, I'm like, well, that's usually not something that we're in the market for replacing.
However, after I did review the televising, it certainly is a path that's useful life with SAGs and infiltration and such.
Skukam itself has that eight inch VCP, petrified clay pipe, and old clay pipe that we're used to seeing.
So again, showing that older vintage that's shown some SAGs in there as well.
Water main itself on North Street is four inch cast iron pipe.
There's been seven water meringue breaks since 2009, three of those within the past year plus.
So that's where, you know, it really comes to fruition that we need to get after this project.
Water main itself is falling apart and water main breaks, I think, are 10 to 12,000 probably on a per each basis,
and any time we've got to fix those.
And that's just a bandage.
So again, research useful life.
And we're also looking at the hydrogen spacing on it.
We'll redo that with the project itself, but right now there's not adequate spacing there.
Skukam Street is a six inch ductile iron.
Records indicators put in in 1982.
So we've seen some of the challenges of that kind of ductile iron pipe on another segment within town
where we've seen some water main breaks.
So again, that's reached its useful life.
And we're going to be upsizing that to the city standard eight inch PVC.
Storm sewer along North Street is a little bit of a mess.
It's broken into two different areas.
I don't get into that a little bit when we get to the proposed conditions on what we're intending on doing there.
So if you want to click through, I think what do we have next?
This will exist in sections.
Yeah, the sections themselves.
So the proposed section is very similar to every other street that we've been reconstructing in town.
We have a city standard of about 34 feet face to face, and that's face of curve to face of curve.
With a five foot walk on one side of the street.
Construction of the sidewalk.
We're anticipating on the south side as adjacent to the city park there.
But once we get into the design, we'll really look at utilities, trees, cross slopes and things like that.
But by and large, I believe the south side is going to make the most sense on North Street because it's adjacent to the park there.
Let's drive away to things like that.
So we'll bring that forward as we get into the design itself.
We'll be holding open houses where we can talk about the impacts of trees, the removal of trees and the construction of any potential retaining walls to install that sidewalk.
The pavement section itself is going to be about the same as what we've done in the past.
A geo grid followed by some inch and a half rock, followed by some class five aggregate, and then the bituminous on top of that.
We found over the past 20 years that that's been a very good section for building roads in the great city of Janesville, understanding our clay soils and such.
We've built some pretty good roads with that, seeing good longevity of those, able to maintain that.
One other thing that I did want to point out in this section is that towards the edge, towards the edge of each side, we do have an under drain underneath the roadway itself.
I was going to ask that question, but thank you.
That's on the typical section.
While it has some storm water conveyance, it allows people to connect their sump pumps to it.
It's mainly to drain the pavement, drain the subsurface.
If we got the clay material on our subgrade here, as water bubbles up, frosts, letting the water out, we allow this drainage layer on the bottom to go out away from our crown and collect in that drain tile.
That goes out to the storm so it gets that out there.
Twofold, we drain the pavement, it increases the life of the pavement, and then it also provides the sump pump connection.
We'll have a connection point to each of the properties that are out there.
If they have a sump pump and that's currently a hose laying across the yard that just may regurgitate through the soils itself, we'll allow a connection point to each property or work with those homeowners that they could connect those.
That's not meant for rough drains or things like that, this is meant for groundwater.
It's been a great addition to the city to maintain our roads and to provide those, because I think we all have those sump pumps.
Sanitary sewer itself, so here, I'll just kind of walk through that.
If you want to go to your exhibit that shows, just come up there if you don't mind.
This shows north street here, so we'll just kind of walk through.
We'll get the sidewalk showing on that south side that's in pink.
Our concrete driveways and driveway approaches are in the blue.
So within each driveway, we'll have a piece to five foot apron, and then we will replace back what the existing conditions are.
Some of these, if they're the luminous, believe the luminous pass the five foot apron.
If it's gravel, it'll be gravel pass the five foot apron.
If it's concrete, their driveway will put concrete past that five foot apron.
On the south side, the fluid different will have concrete up to the sidewalk itself, making sure that that's continuous along this south side there.
Again, high back urban gutter, the P618, which we typically see.
Sanitary sewer within this, the entire stretch runs from east to west all the way down and connects down at west street.
So we'll be putting in a new A H PVC, new water industry sewer services out to the right of the way and connect to those existing ones.
We're going to do a little bit more research through the design.
Exactly identifying where those locations are and do some televising of the individual services themselves.
It provides a lot of good information going into this on what the contractor can expect, and then we also know if there's any of what's called snake services,
where a property may be going across another property before it comes down there below through somebody's backyard.
This seems a bit more straightforward than some of the other projects we've had in town, where maybe it goes from port to chrome and seeing some of those connections that are kind of weird.
This should be fairly straightforward, but that's typical to make sure that we have enough evidence of what's going on out there.
Waterman itself will be another eight inch PVC.
We'll have hydrant spacing to meet the current standards.
I think we're going to get one, two, three, four hydrants along this stretch.
I think right now there's maybe two or three, so we'll add fire protection out there.
We'll have valves to be able to maintain the system and then do one inch water services to each one of the properties.
Pork stop at the main, per stop at the property lines themselves.
Storm sewer is kind of broken up into two segments.
There's kind of a brake line midway.
The eastern portion kind of drains over land.
We're going to have some unique situations.
We're not going to be able to get everything to the road.
We may have to have some catch faces on the backside of the curving gutter on this south side, because it is so much lower than the road itself.
We'll get into that when we get into the design, but essentially this outlets between these properties up to the skull for some provision.
Yeah.
We'll have to look at what this is.
There's got to be some perpetual easement there, but we'll get into the details of the storm sewer outlet.
That's the east side.
West side is going to go from east to west, coming down to West Street.
We'll have new catch faces collecting it halfway, so we're not having a pool of water coming all the way down the road down and inundating this intersection.
We're breaking it up, having some catch faces facing along there, and that will ultimately all led to West Street and so on.
I think that's the improvements themselves on that.
When we're talking about school coming a little bit more straight forward there, the water and the sanitary sewer, we're showing a 34-foot wide road sidewalk on one side connecting here on South Street.
And then the storm sewer all goes down towards South Street that was done.
With that South Street project where we upside the storm sewer in that region, doing the south side drainage improvements in the 90s, when Clinton and I were starting here, 2002.
We started in the 90s.
So, okay, let's see.
We're going to do a nice one where we have.
We have fun stuff.
With that our report, I do talk about permits.
We'll make sure that we get the permits, Department of Health.
I work in West La Seca County on that, and then a storm water permit.
Pennix being in there shows a complete breakdown of the costs themselves of that North Street portion, about 1.7 scoop on streets, about 381,000.
And that includes a 5% contingency, soft costs, and all of those things in there.
So those are the total estimated project costs.
Again, these are engineers' estimates.
It is not.
We have in business projects.
These are estimates that myself and my fellow engineer, Eric Halzer, that's helping me with this project has looked at historic bids over this last year, plus, and then kind of identified based on the size of this project.
The unit price estimates for these were both North Street and Skookam Street itself.
So we're feeling pretty good as about this estimate under today's numbers themselves.
So if we bounce forward, the preliminary assessment role.
So I believe you guys reviewed the assessment policy at the last meeting.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
And adopted that new policy.
The one kind of the one new item to it was, what are we doing with the storm sewer itself?
I like to put 30% on a per each basis for the storm sewer.
So, assessing 30% of the streets of benefiting property owners based on an adjusted footage basis.
So we're looking at the corner lots.
We get the project and Craig Street before.
What are they receiving assessment on?
Making sure that we are following the corner of our policy.
30% of the sand and surface storm and water main based on per parcel basis.
It has nothing to do with front footage.
It has to do on a per parcel basis.
And then the remaining portion itself would be updated by the general fund along with the corresponding enterprise funds for the other utilities themselves.
So with that, we prepared the assessment roles.
We went through and identified each property, our best estimations from the information we have right now on who's getting a sewer service, who's getting a water service with this project.
And putting those in there based on the individual parcels that North Street is.
For us, we have assessments ranging from about 6,000, 15,000 words to 20,000 or so.
And we weren't looking at those total assessment numbers themselves and they have increased since we last did a project here in Jamesville.
Inflation over the past five years and construction prices has been significant.
And so we haven't done a project here in about four or five years.
And so we're seeing a significant uptick in unit prices for work to be done.
So what I really attributed to is I felt like in the early 2000s, we come out of the recession, prices held really steady.
And put together a cost estimate five years later, the cost estimate is the same.
Because there wasn't a huge jump in prices.
Then we got to the recent inflationary jumps and we've seen the construction prices feel like they really caught up to where they probably should have stepped up over time.
So we made a significant jump over this last three, four years in construction prices themselves.
So that's what the market is today.
And so what we've done is followed your assessment policy.
Slide that to the enterprises and the numbers that we're expecting.
Again, we're going to go through the bidding process and then redo the fees or the assessment role itself.
Those will be the numbers of the assessing books.
It's based on actual construction numbers themselves.
So what this is is an estimate based on the information we have here today.
All right.
What do we have?
Go ahead.
We have a park on North Street.
Yep.
I don't believe there's any parking there currently.
Any parking?
Parking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, now with no car being just parked in the ground.
Right.
So they'll be parking on the street now that we have the 34-volt wide road.
Are you talking about putting some lanes in there?
That's, well, that's a question for us to decide if we want to go forward with that.
Also, we need to have, we should put a tap in so that we don't have to dig the street up.
Should we want to put a restroom in there with sewer and water?
Yeah.
He doesn't have those shown here.
But we will have those.
We talked about those.
Yeah.
It's not illustrated here, but I'll make sure.
We're going to put a sewer and water stuff to it.
You don't have to dig up the road.
Yeah.
So, I know the bathroom isn't currently being used, but again, in the future, we're looking
at any improvements of that park that sewer and water would be extended to it.
So, I understand the business, you know, just being able to pull off to the side and have
that.
Now we're going to have a defined road.
There's going to be ample parking on 7 road.
It's held.
So, I mean, there's certainly enough for one side.
There is one enough for two-way traffic parking on both sides.
We are not going to restrict it.
You know, this is a very residential road, right?
So, if we did have people parked on both sides, you know, it's not going to be lying the
entire distance.
So, vehicles can weave in and out.
I think that's very similar to all the other roads in town.
So, there will be enough parking, you know, on both sides of that road.
I'm not sure what you're seeing out there.
Are you seeing more than 10 cars at any one given time?
For a long time, that was the through for farmers coming from east to west is down north
street.
Still is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you can't get under the trestle and going down the old new, or county road 14 is not
advisable.
The north street is the access for farm vehicles going from west to east.
There is no place to cross until you get to lesion.
Or you got to go down all the way to.
So, they go on north street south and north wood, come up and go across and they do that
job.
They come in on west street and then they come down west north and then go across.
Okay.
And up, what is that, 19?
Yeah.
So, that is a bypass for several.
I'm not sure a lot.
I know there's more of them going down old 14, though, just because it's wider.
And once you get through town, old 14 is decent.
Yeah.
Yep.
Because then people can pass and now we have a bypass shoulder.
So, that should improve down to there.
Also, they were going through what is it?
Prairie Lane or whatever.
It is.
Prairie Circle.
Oh.
Didn't know that.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Well, that's really wide enough, is it?
What do you not permit parking?
Yeah.
I mean, I think it's, I definitely think it's wide enough.
Right now, we have a 24-foot wide road that's been functioning out there.
They could pull off to the side.
But, you know, we're adding another 10 feet, you know, of dedicated pavement itself.
So, yeah.
All right.
So, the last, what is it, one of the last slides we have?
There's a schedule itself.
Oh, we need to figure it out.
So, here we are.
I presented the feasibility report.
That's in here.
That's on 8.10 tonight, where I have a resolution in front.
I have a resolution in front of you to accept that report and call for the improvement hearing
itself.
We're going to be advertising that, and then we're going to hold the improvement hearing
here at City Hall that comes from meeting on the 14th.
You still have that meeting on that night?
Yep.
It doesn't have to move.
Okay.
So, we'll plan on that.
I will present a very similar presentation.
This will be open to the public.
Open to the residents.
We'll be sending out notices to them.
I'll have essentially the similar information explaining this to the public and the property
owners that are out there.
So, at that time, I will listen to any comments that they may have.
At that time, it'll be up to you guys if you want to move forward with the authorizing
of the plans and specifications after that hearing.
So, if we're talking about the September 14th, we continue to move forward.
We'll start the design.
We'll do the surveying of it right away.
Get a good 60% design done.
And then we're going to hold an open house here at City Hall, November, early December,
staying away from Thanksgiving or Christmas.
That'll be allow a more informal opportunity for property owners to come in.
We'll have boards of the improvements.
They can talk to designers.
They can talk to Clinton.
They can talk to myself.
Ask those individual questions that isn't such a formal hearing process.
So, we found that to be very beneficial.
It's allowing property owners to learn more about the project.
I mean, I put themselves in that myself in their position.
If I don't know what's going on, you know, I'm saying that it causes a lot of anxiety.
So, while we've been through this and we know what's going on, explaining that to them
and, you know, answering those general questions goes a long ways.
We're going to also hold another open house just prior to construction here.
So, we're going to be doing it in December.
Then we're going to open the bids in March.
We're going to hold that assessment hearing in April.
Those meet those final assessment numbers.
And then we'll have this construction open house and just prior to construction.
So, you know, if we talked about it in November, all of a sudden it's May.
What the heck do we talk about it?
I forget what they said.
It allows them another opportunity to refresh their questions as we're getting closer to
backhoe showing up in town in the road getting dugout.
So, finding that those two opportunities to answer questions goes a long ways to
keeping the phone calls at a dull roar through construction and just educating people
on what's going on.
So, stands for completion.
We're looking at probably having probably the first part of October.
And then the final definition is the following year.
We're going to put on that last layer of the two minutes pavement itself.
So, we allow that one seed in a freeze-thaw or digging utilities, things like that.
So, if there's any settlement that happens over that first year, then we put that final surface on
to have a nice crown road.
So, I think that should do my slides.
I got anything else?
Questions, comments, concerns, or compliments?
Yep.
Top compliment.
That's not on there.
I'll have that next time.
Invisible lake.
All right.
Anything else?
Anybody have any thoughts, questions?
We're following the same process.
We've been doing on many projects and I have done a lot of projects in town and, you know,
we're not saying we're perfect at any of this, but I think we've learned from years past
and this one, we're going to just take everything we've learned in the past and try and deliver
a good project to yourself.
Otherwise, thanks for your time and I'll look forward to entertaining that resolution
and we'll get that advertisement going.
Yep.
So, number resolution number 25 is attached.
It accepts Jason's report that he just gave and it also calls for the improvement hearing
on September 14th.
I'll make a motion to approve resolution 25.
Second.
All in favor?
Aye.
All right.
Thank you.
Yep.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Moving back up.
Consent agenda.
All right.
Attached are the minutes from our last meeting and I do have to point out.
I noticed that we have to put Sarah Joel's name on the minutes so we did that all right.
So, with tonight's minutes just include Sarah Joel as attending at our last meeting.
Other than that, we basically have the routine regular bills totaling about 89,000 this
time.
Any questions?
What is the 694 Pearson acres?
Oh, we had to look at some sort of things.
Oh, it only helped us with it.
It would just be a normal cost for us on the development.
Yep.
It counts payable.
It comes up pre-taxed daycare withholding.
What is nobody on city staff doing daycare that I didn't think or how does that affect
us?
Yeah.
If you have daycare, you can take it out of your check.
Pre-taxed.
And then that's basically a withdrawal that we put into for.
Yeah, we have to put a few actually that.
There they are.
Rental inspections.
Let's see.
I guess it's even never mind.
I was looking at it as being down and it's not.
So where is it?
Year to date amount is 975.
So yeah, we're down.
Well, from our budgeted amount.
Yeah, and that's kind of a cycle thing where we will have several rental inspections.
All in one.
That that's the building official, the building official doing the inspection cost that.
I think that was all I had for budget.
My motion to approve the consent agenda.
All in favour?
Aye
public forum, do we have anybody here that would like to speak through public forum?
last chance moving on notices and communications I have none council
reports I have to report that I took an extra long nap and was late for the
UDA meeting so we didn't have a quorum so they didn't have a meeting
however we did listen to a gentleman present on daycare daycare daycare
bringing he was reporting he worked with Mapleton and Mapleton has built a
house and they rent it to a daycare operator to establish a daycare center
for 10 to 12 kids in their community and it's possible something like that could
work for our community it would be a step in the right direction to get a daycare
or a new daycare in town if the city would build a house and we're not talking a
large house we're talking eight to nine hundred square feet is what he had is
what Mapleton has so we're continue to investigate that
guys what do you have anything any commission met but what we talked about
will be doing later in the meeting sure by the way congratulations for quite a
performance on the music in a park yes the park board excel that the this in the
park and days old night out couldn't throw hot dogs at the people fast yeah
leave they went they went pretty good anybody wanted to know we handed over to
240 hot dogs some of it all of water chips in 40 minutes I think based on my
conversations with Paul we're gonna try not to ourselves next year you get the
weather we have the other night exactly the conversations left to have this year
the attendance was close to between 550 and 600 people which is phenomenal we
had quite a turnout from out of town so we're pulling from the strong area even
as far as Mankato we're gonna have to add some extra streets so they have a
place to park yeah okay after January we can put six spaces down on North
Park I had a utility board meeting last week just a lot of the I think we paid
some bills for the substation project we had a little setback with our led
service line money from the state so that's gonna get pushed back I believe
just a lot of it's the water yeah the service lines we they were talking
about how they're buying off the grid or through their broker I should say
there's a lot of things that I'm kind of getting up to speed on that are
interesting but pretty routine in nature the most part the personnel
committee will be talking about that here shortly
the administrative report um can we have Kelly go first if she doesn't have to
zero on it we can
department had we have Kelly here with the library
thank you here with the library just to kind of give an update of how the summer
went we had a great summer so like a typical month we have like a little
patron counter you know when you go in and out what typical month can be a good
three four hundred between June and July we had eighteen hundred so very good
June and July we had 109 kids dying up that's ages three to eighteen and last
year was 92 so we're up as well as we had 82 finishers and we're up from last
year where we had 72 finishers that's great we had a lot of duplicate finishers
because the prizes were super exciting this year we had a dinosaur lamp for
ages three to nine ages 10 to 12 we had a beginner 3d printer and ages 13 to 18
we had a candle paper white I will report back that the 3d printer has been
used 22 times now the mom was in today so the individual that one is absolutely
loving it the candle paper white I just helped the patron today connected to
their Libby app so we're already using the Kindle as well so it's been great I
had about 25 events not including passive events so like the scavenger
hunt that I do and with the 25 events we had almost 530 attendees so that averages
you know about 21 attendees per event so overall just a really great summer our
library carnival was very successful even though it was horribly hot I felt
horrible but you can't replay on something like that so we still had over
120 individuals come so overall I've had a lot of compliments from the kids
and the parents are appreciative as well that was our summer anything else that
you'd like to ask me what can you print with your 3d printer I think he's
printing a lot of toys but like you can do a wide variety of stuff with it so if
I needed a bearing holder for my lawnmower I could come in and do that just
take out your checkbook
I'm just asking the question you can get the film into the printer to make all
your little bits and bobs if you want to program it yes we'll print that is there
anything you need from us so oh I'll back Kate my head email me what of the
list and I sent it to her she was looking into grants so what is the
status I think she's going to plan on presenting at the next council meeting
she's still gathering up some things with the grants and the application stuff so
that should be coming here shortly okay that's great I mean now it's like that
otherwise you think dire of pressing no I mean just the overall stuff that you
all know about so is there one thing you can get a point that's brought your
numbers up so high attendance I tried to do about one a day that we're open
very good I'm sure I was out on medical leave for a couple of months and I'm sure
everyone was kind of glad that I was back so but yes I try and trash well
thank you thank you thank you appreciate it thank you all community
appreciates it oh let's see here now it's your turn came
minister to report you have in the packet tonight the July reconciliation for the
bank thanks Kelly
there we go the cash balance from last Friday the certificate that the golf
course did receive for the best of on the set the clubhouse right now that that
came here I think eight or nine days ago I can't read that thing because
clearance of that oh I have in last meeting us that we send a personal
thank you to representative Keith Allen so we did that put a copy of that in
your and Caitlin put together a six-month building permit report that she
showed the Planning Commission last week so I included that in the report
tonight CARES Act the federal government gave us money for you know
COVID relief we obviously had a report on what we were spending that money on I
did get a notification last week that we have officially gone through that
program and we were approved or whatever so it's it's done and I'm not going to
get into this vote I just put some info on there and James on they know it but
Kylie did a good job with that so that's all I have
no incriminating evidence from back of our packages and follow up being in
the corner motion to approve administrator report second all in
your favor
we already did that variants for JD 3 properties yes JD 3 properties
on jangel hard work they I'm just going to pull up the diagram they own a small
lot just behind their building on the other side of the alley
here's a hardware store right here they're looking to put a storage shed there
so they can store some store items the front yard setback they are requesting
a variance on so they can actually build a building there I mean a lot so
small if you followed all the setbacks you wouldn't get a very big building in
there so the planning commission held their home hearing last Wednesday there
was no one in attendance and also staff did not receive any phone calls or
visits you know for people prior to the hearing so the planning commission does
recommend approval on the various will be approved by adopting the resolution
and then either Caitlin and I will record it at the county so that it's
permanently on that property anything Jennifer did I miss anything I know
but I do have one question we're earning a comment that Caitlin made as a planning
commission that I didn't catch until after the meeting was over she made a comment
that there are I think it is her side but let me look I was thinking it was
forefoot for side but I could be definitely wrong
B2 right yeah I'm going to sit down with a lax
application oh yeah yeah I'll whatever speed
Clinton okay side yard
seven feet come in tomorrow look it up
okay I know the central business district they have zero
well do you want us to look at that and then we can maybe do this at the next
meeting if we have to change some wording on the resolution does that
make sense so what was presented to the to the Commission front yard okay
I guess my my personal take is if the if the planning Commission is okay with
what was given we didn't have any problem we talked at length about it and it all
seen okay you know reasonable and what is it 208 market would have been the only
concern that any of us hadn't they never showed up or so-called why don't we do
this Jennifer let's use this diagram user diagram yeah we'll use the highlighted
I agree with that and then we can make sure that your diagram was the standard
that we're setting for a set back I wouldn't make that motion that we use
that as a standard very setback that yes yeah that's what the plan Commission
approved so that's my motion to prove with that diagram were you thinking of
making your shed bigger no no I don't think we had it maybe thought about
the flag it further south not changing the side of the little of the flag it
just that your brother's house to be allowed for a little bit of parking but
it's we work in the building to with them all around otherwise we can stick to
what I had purples on there on there I would guess you want to get a
construction going as soon as possible that would be that that's what that
would my thinking behind your not wanting to the lake that's two more
weeks is the next lap to the north yours
no let's see the city guys park there oh geez those city guns yeah
see I've only ever really have seen one or two vehicles there never
thought
Clinton do you know I forgot to ask the plan Commission between the parking lot
which apparently is the banks and that lot are there
dividers there are the concrete stoppers there is a
or is it just go from a rail fence is there between the parking lot in your
and your building are there the concrete stoppers or just go from like paid
met the graph there's nothing I guess if this works
I quote now would be the time if you did want to shift it one way or the other
to tell us so we can ponder on that well I think you're
diagram should work right yeah that diagram works okay
okay I just wanted to be fair and get that
opening if she wants it to be six feet on one side four feet down the other
no don't work the way it's wrong okay I believe
motion was made by Jim seconded all in favor
all right all right most carries for zero
thank you for pointing that out
well later it'd be a big problem right
a new portion of the 2027 budget yeah so what we're looking at tonight is a
community development so that would be the EDA and also planning and zoning
basically Caitlin right um I did put some more money in this year's budget for
her training because of previous year's cedar would have paid for the training
of the employee you know but now Caitlin's ours so I did put some money in for
training and the only other thing I wanted to bring
off is that if if you recall on scott moles the
development in northwood we had some incentive money
in this budget once he got a certificate of occupancy for one of the buildings
he built and sold he would get money from us as an incentive to
keep him going um he's looking at possibly doing
a similar setup just next door so he was wondering if the city council
would be willing to include that again next year so
if you're okay with that I did put more money into that miscellaneous line item
towards the bottom here basically I doubled it
so and would that be out there for anybody that
wanted to develop um it was in his developer's agreement so it was for him
okay are you saying he wants to put another screen in or another unit like
he has yeah so he has the property right next to him now
right and he's gonna do like five or six more I was under the belief that
he had the space in between also
between there and a choice green oh I don't think so
okay well it would go to the east right yeah so it would be that
well you'll elaborate next to him right yeah but there's a lot of space in there
for multiple houses and it'd be nice to see that
come under developing the two whoever owns it
so because he has room for to the west too for another
he doesn't have any multiple to all of it yeah like he has now has there
yes okay next to barbs
we have any further discussion on that
I'm looking at the bottom line community development and you're saying a 31
percent decrease but the numbers look like they're going out it's an
increase I just saw that
well for the lack of opportunity for development that we have I feel that
we should encourage it as much as possible
in my opinion
if you don't encourage them it will look at others as
and anything we can encourage have development in the community
it's better for the whole community
and if he's going to have multiple drawings of $18,000 that you're putting in
extra this is pretty pretty quick
a standard house if you have a $300 house
probably going to have what $2,000 of city taxes
of all 2,500 maybe so you know you put five or six houses in there
you recover that money really quickly you don't build them
and you don't get that expansion of base and you don't get that
incoming you don't get those people in town so
I think it's money well spent just the perspective
yes I kind of view it as this is something in this pledge a long time ago
when he started and we should follow through with it
I agree so yeah I think that's a really good
in fact addition to good
any more discussion on that
public safety oh yeah just want to give you a verbal
okay I'm sorry go ahead um we had a total of six applications come in for
police chief I would like to interview five
um the committee that was interested in helping with the interviews are still
interested so if it's okay with the council
I'm going to get in touch with all five of those and I would really like to do
some interviews like that third or fourth week of
August
I mean it's a couple weeks away but if we can try to get them all on one day or
one afternoon that'd be awesome
personnel did with this
personnel did at that time frame well we didn't have a personnel committee
meeting just because this kind of came up Friday
no Thursday Friday so if you're okay with that um
Andy and Ivan are on the committee and then Jeremy earlier
sheriff doulas and then an individual from the council the government
some and kato
part of this let's do group
well well I don't even say when I enter the room
calls I said well I'm definitely in favor of that
Ivan yeah you can get the date picked out let me know
yep let's get her moving
uh is there anything else no uh Clinton I'm not here on Thursday I
brought the signs in for farmers market okay
somebody left for tomorrow okay yep
all right sorry I'm gone no he can go out there with us
yeah well I didn't think he's the manager you should be able to find
somebody to do it right there you go