Okay. Here we go. Got a full house tonight. How was your labor day? Outstanding. Outstanding.
Do you want to treat? It was very busy in Greenfield though. It was incredibly busy. A lot of fun that we get.
This is the plan commission meeting to be held Tuesday September 8th, 2026 at 6pm. The meeting is called to order. Would you please call the roll?
Present.
Alderperson-Kastner.
Present.
Brian Weiss.
Present.
Don Carlson.
Present.
Bob Krenz.
Present.
Zach Marshall.
Present.
Mike Brazwell.
Here.
Daniel Vojak.
Present.
Randy Lee.
Randy and Danielle are alternates today. They can engage in discussion but can't vote. We have a full house down on the other hand. How you doing, Zach? You doing okay?
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
No cupcakes.
You buy drinks after.
Yes, drinks on me after.
Really?
Can't do that.
Yeah.
The water refrigerator.
All right.
Item two is the approval of the minutes from the August 11th, 2026 meeting. Is there a motion to approve?
I'll make a motion to approve.
Hi, Commissioner Brazwell. Is there a second?
I'll second.
Thank you.
Commissioner Weiss. All in favor?
Aye.
And I was working as a opposed.
Okay.
Geez.
I like the excuse.
I'm not sure that's a good enough reason.
Did we say all in favor yet?
All in favor?
Aye.
Out of close. Motion carries. Item three, discussion regarding last Common Council meeting?
Just a couple of updates. Burger and Chorema Lab received approval for their special use permit. We also received approvals for the two CSMs that appeared for you. The first one was the St. Francis in 31st.
that was the right-of-way vacation,
as well as the three-parcel CSM over on 35th Street.
And then the landscaping plan for 7800 West Layton
was also approved.
All right, thank you.
Item four is the signage plan appeal for conversion
and height extension of existing double-sided billboard.
So I'm located 10521 West Layton, submitted by Matthew
Gilson doing business as Lamar Central Outdoor LLC,
represented by Frank Voss.
Thank you.
So the existing sign is shown on the right there.
It's currently a static sign.
It's also currently 52 feet.
What we're looking at here is a conversion of that double-sided
billboard to be digital.
The Electronic Message Center, EMC, a portion of that
must comply with section 1919 of the sign code that regulates
brightness, how often it can change, motion,
all of those items.
In addition to the billboard being digitized,
it's also going to be raised.
The photos on the right show the current.
And this is what is being proposed.
It's going to be raised by 10 feet.
To achieve this, a crane will be used
to remove the existing static signs.
And then the post will be modified
to increase the height by 10 feet.
And then the new signage will be installed.
This does not go to Common Council.
Plan Commission has the sole decision-making authority
regarding signage.
Staff recommends approval of the signage plan.
You know, the ironic thing about this sign location
is when Peterbilt was there and they decided
to build the office complex, they promised
that that sign would be removed from that location
when they built the office building.
And apparently our building inspector at the time
didn't think that was an important part of Plan
Commission's wishes.
Albeit, I don't want an old static sign there anymore.
I'd rather have a new funky digital one.
But unfortunately, I think that may be seen from a neighborhood
that might be more than 600 feet away, but it will be seen.
Yeah.
So it's kind of strange is the lower picture right there.
I don't know if you can see.
I don't know if there's no way to do the thing like that, right?
That's where I live.
We're going to cross from that red dot, literally.
Yeah, I'm right there.
I don't have an objection.
I mean, whether it's the only thing
that I would be concerned of with all of these billboards
is the LED technology has improved dramatically
to be certain that the way that the I use a guy from Walmart,
you kind of look like a guy from Walmart.
Yeah.
It's the shade too nice.
Subliminally, you know, that really worked well.
I mean, the concern is that there was another billboard
proposal, I think, on 102nd in Oklahoma, somewhere
over there, or it's coming up.
It's coming up.
And there was one on 894 immediately east
of where your old Lamar sign would
was in the stadium interchange over there.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with that,
where the turf sign is now.
The technology for the LEDs to stay focused on the lines
of sight on the road, as opposed to the, I don't know
what it is, the bleeding over is really important.
Literally from the house that I reside in,
I can see seven or eight billboards along the freeway.
And the ones that are the newer ones
tend to be less obnoxious and obtrusive compared
to the older ones, the static ones, generally.
So I hope you, you know, I mean, I think as a condition of this
is that the staff is comfortable that that technology that I
think we're more well aware of and cognizant of
and have a little bit better expertise
that that technology is used on this billboard
than otherwise I'd have no objection.
It can be any brighter than the one that's by the dump.
You know, on the one that's on.
Thanks, Caroline.
No, for like 51st.
Like 51st in, yeah, in 94 there.
That one's pretty bright.
That one is bright, that's older technology, though, too.
If you look at the one immediately east of the turf,
it is more focused towards the roadway.
Yeah, I can tell you historically,
you are usually a little bit different
than our drivers are in the drive on the city.
But I do know the new signs won't go away again.
Have 252 fitting walls of each and each.
Yeah, I mean, that's what.
What would have been lower than this one?
Yeah, the older ones didn't have near that technology.
Sure, but I mean, it's probably depends on the color, too, right?
You mean, you put some bright colors,
you can get bright light.
Exactly.
Okay, is there, I'll make a motion to approve,
as presented with the Mayor's comments?
Second.
Okay, Commissioner Weiss,
seconded by Commissioner Carlson, all in favor?
Aye.
Opposed, motion carries.
N and 5A and 5B is especially used for the American National Red Cross,
a proposed blood donation centered relocated 50,
05 South 76th Street.
This also includes a site review.
Does anybody have any objection to the American Red Cross
coming to our city?
This location.
If you are, is the Red Cross here this evening?
Yes.
Well, he's been sitting here for a long time,
so he should talk about it for a while.
No.
I'd make a motion to approve the item as presented.
I'll say.
Those are good hours.
It's good hours.
It's a vitally important thing, I think, to our community
and the community as a whole everywhere.
Is it just blood or is it platelets, too?
Is it just blood donation?
OK.
Yeah.
There's a real need for that.
Not the platelets?
Yes.
Oh, platelets, also.
And you pay for that, too?
And do they pay out for that, too?
Ooh, it's donation.
No, it's all donation.
No, it's all donation.
Yeah.
Oh, it's for diversity.
Yeah.
For it that way.
Vericity pays, don't they?
No.
Vericity is.
No.
I just don't.
I'm not even honest.
You can get a free t-shirt.
Or a hat or something.
Or a hat or something.
I made the motion.
Is there a second?
No.
A second.
Oh, Brian is your wife.
All in favor?
Aye.
Post-motion carries.
I apologize.
I didn't quite hear.
Who made the second?
Me.
Brian.
OK.
So, be here first.
Me.
Brian.
Yeah.
Incorporating comments that you had.
Item 6A and 6B is a certified survey map combining three commercial lots.
Look at it, 59, 49, 59, 80, and 80, 59, 81, South 27th Street.
By Department of Work doing Businesses Greenfield Veterinary Clinic, represented by Ahmad Nadi.
This is also a site landscaping review.
Yeah.
So, I do want to mention, because it kind of looks like it's just two lots.
There is a third lot back here.
So that is being incorporated.
So in case you were wondering where the third lot is, it's this portion back here that will
be incorporated as well.
So it's a three-light lot combo.
Are they here tonight?
Yes.
Back right.
So, in general, the CSM is required because the owner of the vet clinic intentionally
purchased that property to the north because they want to expand their parking lot.
After driving in the parking lot, it's very, very tight.
So this is very needed and will definitely help enhance their business.
I make a motion to approve the item as presented.
It's getting rid of the ISOR next door that's improving that business, which is would you
someone invested a whole bunch of money into recently?
So that's a beautiful thing.
Did someone second it?
I'll second it.
Commissioner Braswell seconds.
This is a business in Greenfield that has flourished for many, many years and keeps getting
better and better.
Absolutely.
I'm kind of proud of it.
Motion.
I am too.
Motion made and seconded.
All in favor?
Aye.
Thank you.
Opposed?
Motion carries.
Can each other's a Cubs game tonight?
Against the burger.
No, sir.
Next one is seven temporary use permit for heat Haven, Santa Park are proposed season
all out to our community, Santa Park be located 4930 West Loomis, Loomis submitted
by Jesse Hive.
That picture isn't the actual one, is it?
Did they do it in this permission?
So this temporary use was previously in Wauwatosa at Hart Park.
So they were located there.
They were very successful.
We did reach out to Wauwatosa to see how did it go.
They said no issues.
They said it basically operated at any one of their other parks and rock add-on activities
in terms of how well we're in.
Are they here tonight?
They are going to have three barrel saunas.
Those are located here.
They're also going to have changing rooms with locking doors.
They'll also have lockers.
They have a cold shower that is located in the semi-heated greenhouse there.
The cold shower is serviced by a hose and then the water is dumped over the individual.
There's no soap or anything.
So from a regulatory standpoint, it is not considered gray water.
So it basically gets regulated like a splash pad would.
I mentioned that just in terms of in case you care about sanitary and sewer lines and
all that kind of stuff.
But that is how it is run.
The hours of operation, they are only open when bloom coffee garden is also open.
So if bloom isn't open, they will not be open.
So they're only open together.
This is their proposed hours.
They have two full-time employees.
Bloom was reviewed back in April of 2024.
There's no new issues.
Staff recommended.
Such nice people there, don't they?
No.
All right.
Is the liquor license expanding to this area?
I am not aware that the liquor license is expanding.
In order to do that, they would need to apply to the clerk's office and amend the premises
description.
I don't believe they want to.
Is there a liquor license?
Do you intend on serving alcohol out of these things or allowing them to drink alcohol?
I am standing in for just a few, but I can have some.
Okay.
If they do, you have to follow rules.
So as it sits tonight, you don't have a liquor license because there have to be an expansion
of the premises, the extension of the premises.
I wouldn't be against it, but it just needs to be done right.
Is there a motion to approve this?
I just have a quick question.
People who use the cold shower, they're going to be told not to bring their own soap.
The people who use the son is, will they be told not to bring their own soap for that
cold shower?
It's not necessarily a shower or just a cold rinse.
Okay.
Okay.
Very good.
Okay.
What are the locker rooms going to just be containers or curtains or what?
I did talk to Jesse about it about the locker rooms and they will be the changing rooms.
The changing rooms will have doors with locks on them, so not curtains.
Just not a curtain.
Not curtains.
Doors with locks.
Is there a motion to approve?
Was there a motion to approve?
I'll make a motion to approve.
Castner made the motion.
Is there a second by Carlson?
All in favor?
Aye.
Aye.
Opposed?
Motion carries.
Welcome.
Welcome.
Yeah?
More fun.
Item made is architectural plan review for Starlight Wellness Clinic and Spa located at 6825 West
Lake in Avenue.
Real small, real easy.
They want to change the front entrance of their building.
Right now it's windows.
They want to put a door there.
I'd make a motion to approve the item as presented.
I'll second.
Seconded by Commissioner.
I'm assuming there's going to be like a walkway or something there.
Yes it'll.
It's just blocked by a.
It has a landing and then a ramp.
Okay.
So that way it's ADA compliant both in the front and they're retaining their other entrance,
which is ADA compliant as well.
So there'll be two.
Those guys here tonight.
Is that you?
Your Starlight?
Okay.
All right.
Motion was made and seconded.
All in favor?
Aye.
Opposed?
Motion carries.
Item 9A, 9B, Special East Front for Gold Coast Subs Food Truck, a proposed food truck
home base located at 4263 West Lake and this is behind the business.
This is also a site review for Gold Coast, which is leased from the food carol folks.
So what we're looking at here, Gold Coast Subs is an existing limited service restaurant
and they're just looking to add the food truck home base to this property for one food truck.
The properties on C2, so it's special use.
Cars of operation are 7 to 10.
Daily parking requirements, 55 are required, 40 are provided, common council can waive
that shortage.
Site review, everything about the site seemed fine.
The engineering staff here are working with the property owner regarding some concerns
regarding gravel washout into a catch basin, but that is something that engineering is
working with the property owner to address.
The public hearing may be scheduled on October 20th.
I just want to, before we vote on this, I want to
point out that this gentleman here purchased the building when he was held for you, 19.
He's a budding entrepreneur.
This weekend, last weekend, on Saturday we had a pretty big event over at the turf.
I think there are probably three or four hundred people or five hundred.
There's a lot throughout the day.
He had his food truck there.
I think he did a pretty robust business and it was an honor having you there over the
weekend.
You're a wonderful part of our community and thank you very much.
I wish every 18, 19, 21 had the ambition that you do.
I'll make a motion to approve.
Commissioner Carlson, is there a second?
Marshall.
He's his son's escape order.
I will second.
Sorry.
Under discussion, I go there quite often and I enjoy their say cheese sandwich a lot.
I just learned something on Sunday after I drove five miles across the city on my bicycle.
What's that?
I don't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was at the...
Good though.
That's good.
I'll have to go back.
Motion was made and seconded.
Just under discussion, the event went really, really well.
It was sort of, I don't know if it was, it wasn't impromptu, but it wasn't a city sponsored
event.
A local skateboarder kind of started it.
Stage wasn't open like early on.
The stage was open and music was playing from it, not bands though.
We didn't get power to the turf until about one or two o'clock Friday afternoon or while.
I want to point out that we would have had water.
And although the Milwaukee Water Works Inspector was there throughout the entire construction
process of the meter pit and said everything was great.
And despite the efforts to get the water there and to get a meter installed so that
we would have water at the turf, because there was water in the pit and there wasn't
a ladder, even though the pit was designed consistent with Milwaukee Water Works and
was approved by Milwaukee Water Works, even though there was a sump pump there that could
have taken the water out.
And even though there were other contractors on site that could have dropped a ladder into
the pit to install the meter, the meter installer decided that he wasn't going to do it.
So I want to thank...
So we go through this, this is a learning exercise for especially the new ones.
We spend a tremendous amount of time, staff spends a tremendous amount of time before
we get to this point to make sure that everything's in order and everything is, you know, sometimes
things change and sometimes we don't catch everything.
But once it gets approved here and it gets approved by the council, there's another step
beyond that, which is our inspectors, which is, you know, engineering stuff, and then
yeah, there's all sorts of things that could happen.
The thing that's disappointing to me and when other communities, maybe larger ones that
are adjacent to us without naming names, do things like they did, potentially, by analogy
with the water meter, you can ruin everything that you've done up until that point.
As far as customer service and being, you know, getting folks to invest in your community.
So it was extremely disappointing that we didn't have what, we had the bathrooms were
done, the contractors, we were done.
And somebody didn't want to wait around to go down a ladder that we could have, he should
have a ladder in his truck, I would think.
And that is just incredibly disappointing to me.
So that being said, he was a rock star, he was there the entire day, I think he had
a pretty good turnout, was really fun after the event.
Everything was cleaned up, there were volunteers working with the folks, they had their own
little orange things on, they were picking up, I went Sunday morning and looked around
bright and early, the place looked spotless.
Does the meter in?
The meter is still not in.
I did drive down the expressway coming back from the airport and did notice this big American
flag from the road.
Elder person Kastner was very instrumental in recognizing how important it is to provide
mass to the site and thought that three flag poles would be there, there's an American
flag with an eagle that goes with the wind, there's also a turf flag and a green field
flag at that event on Saturday, literally had a dozen, two dozen people come up to me
and say, how do I get one of them flags?
The turf flag.
But no, the site, the park, Eric Dresson, who was an escape boarding hall of fame was
there over the weekend, really nicely, really great skateboarder.
He said it's one of the top three parks in the country, the historical significance
places near the top.
So there were license plates from Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa, Minnesota, tons from
Wisconsin, a lot of folks came up from Northern Illinois.
That's any given weekend.
You can go there, well, it's raining, potentially.
But if you go there tonight, you'll see people from all over.
That's awesome.
They need a hotel to stay in.
Well, we did a study and it was premature at the time, but, you know, because of, you
know, but another quick thing, next door to the turf, and the reason I'm bringing this
up is because he was at the turf, so I'm stretching what I can say, it sounds like the
building's next door, the big tech, light industrial spaces that should be starting
in three to four weeks or sooner, so that's a good thing.
So, all right, sorry.
There's a motion.
There's a motion.
Motion is second.
All in favor.
Aye.
Opposed?
Motion carries.
Thank you.
And all you do?
Absolutely.
Keep it up.
It's doing great.
Thank you.
Thank you.
For the Cobblestone Hotel and Suites of Provost Hotel to be located at 8,900 Cera Lane, submitted
by Jeremy Grisbach, doing businesses, Cobblestone Hotel Development LLC.
This is also the site landscaping and architectural review.
This is a matter of first impression for most people, so.
So what we're looking at is the final building pad in 84 South, which is incredibly exciting
to really see it to the very end here.
So, Cobblestone Hotel, in Suites, they're going to construct a four-story building.
It'll be approximately 36,800 square feet.
The property is on PUD, which is a special use.
However, very similar to the other projects that have appeared in 84 South recently, such
as Cooper's Hawks, Starbucks, Chipotle, all of that, because there was an intensive amount
of public participation during the 84th South Creation Project.
In the past, public hearings have been waived by Plan Commission for these projects.
Therefore, Plan Commission may choose to waive the public hearing requirement for this as
well.
Five full-time employees, ten part-time employees.
It's going to be not only a hotel, but it'll have an indoor pool.
It'll offer continental breakfast, a fitness area, beer, and wine bar.
It is a hotel, so the hours of operation are 24, 7, 365.
The hearing requirement, 66, are required.
They will provide 124 spaces that does include the ones down here as well.
This, if the public hearing is waived, it could be expedited to next week's Common
Council meeting on September 15th.
Just looking through some elevations and materials, the elevations are shown.
The South Elevation here is the primary entrance that faces into the 84 South property.
The North Elevation is what is going to face the freeway.
In terms of materials, they are proposing a thin-stone veneer, which is over here, and
then they are going to have cement siding.
Even though the color swatch is solid, it's a siding color, so there's going to be lots
of lines.
It's not going to look like ethos at all.
Over on the right, I'm just showing a picture from their recent building that opened up
in Waukesha.
It has the same, the stone veneer is the same.
This is Efis, so we won't have that portion of it, and they aren't proposing any of the
dark color, but I just wanted to show kind of what this little square looks like when
you put it on a whole building and a whole side of the building.
Can we stop there and I complain maybe?
See how that picture of the Waukesha building and the elevation of the brown area is higher
than the rest of the building?
I don't see any of that differentiation in the building that is being presented here,
and I think that would help tremendously on the design and feel of the building.
You're saying just before the dark area?
Where the dark area is, similar to where the entrance, bring it up like this one is to give
it more, because that's what you're going to see.
You're not going to see the cars parked on the parking lot.
You're going to see this beautiful building with this kind of, now you'll see kind of
an up and down, it'll look, no, no, no, I'm just saying you just need that extra height
above the roof light like you did in that one, exactly right there.
I actually like the brown area.
I think we can get a Hyperion, so I don't think that'd be an issue.
Based on the, and I don't know what it is on top of my head, but the Aurora building's
five stories, so yeah, so I assume that the PUD allows for up to five, so I don't think
you'd be carrying on that.
I like to be sharp as well.
I like the brown, actually.
I'm sorry, I'm not using the right terminology, and if one of our designers, they'd all are
happy, but I think you'll understand what I'm saying.
That's dimension.
Yeah.
I like that a lot better.
So basically, the same design, the same design as Waukesha, except where the EFS is, it'll
be the cement board, hardy board that we use, that'll give it the lines and draw it in.
Yeah.
Okay.
We can do that.
And Micah, whatever.
Yeah, I think that's true.
Yeah.
And then Hooper's Hawk has that same darkness, so that'll tie in a little bit.
Point is together.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Is it going to have any community rooms or spaces to rent out?
We do have a meeting room in, probably 40-ish people in there that can be rented out, and
then also our breakfast room slash bar, it can be rented out during the day if people
wanted to do, like, offsite meetings for a couple hours or breakout meetings or something
like that.
So we're not looking to be a conference center or anything like that, but there are, you
know, whether it's a gift openings the day after a wedding could be the get ready for
the wedding room, you know, like the bridesmaids prep room can be rented out during the week
for offsite meetings and the such.
There.
Yep.
Showers.
Wedding showers, baby showers.
Yeah.
Try these cold showers.
Depends on them.
With lock doors.
Yeah.
No, it's hope.
I have to bring you room.
Yeah.
I see this.
Okay.
Has the bar with the beer and wine, are you looking to get a full liquor license?
If the license is available, we would probably just go for the full liquor license as long
as the cost isn't exponentially more than a beer and wine license.
It's all different in every city, obviously what's available and whatnot.
So it's part of the recommendation is there's no objection to a full service liquor.
No objection.
I would encourage that.
Yeah.
We're not looking to be the local tavern.
No.
No service for the guys.
I think for yes, it makes sense.
Yep.
Perfect.
Not the margaritas at the holiday in that place.
No.
No, the holiday.
No.
Remember that.
You'll see on that thing too.
It says possible future outdoor activation.
There's this idea that maybe there'll be a patio out there is something.
Yeah.
We talked about doing different things, you know, and again, they're just all ideas.
So I hate to put anything on record, but it just gives us a, you know, if we do it as
grass to begin with and do some nice landscaping out there, we can always upgrade it later,
but we could also do a different sort of little public outings or something like that
out there and have that as a space that could be used to draw more people to the area for
special events or something like that.
Very good.
A good sunset sign.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
The set lines.
Why not?
We're trying to figure out a set line.
I don't think you'd have the set lines with a sunset line.
In the late.
Sorry.
So with regard to signage, you'd probably want to sign along the freeway.
Yeah, we normally put the signs on the building.
We'd love to do for sure the freeway facing and then also the parking lot facing sides.
If we could do the sides of the building, if we could do all four sides, if that worked,
that'd be the best case scenario for us.
But if that's an issue, we for sure would like the two on the highway facing side and
then I'm going to call it the parking lot facing side.
Mm-hmm.
Will anyone see them on the sides?
I mean, it's going to be blocked by both buildings.
Yeah, I guess it'd be blocked by Aurora coming from the South.
Yeah, and then.
OK, drive by.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think if we had the two, we'd be fine.
Yeah.
And if you're in the parking lot, it's right there.
You'd be surprised.
Yeah.
Could anyone?
Oh, I can imagine.
You haven't done this analysis of the pictures.
Have you?
Yeah.
Just because I'm sure there's a sign code waiver coming at some point.
Generally speaking.
So they showed me two wall signs.
They're allowed to have two wall signs.
They're allowed at 200 square feet of signage, I'm sure it's, or 250.
So I just.
So the ones that are represented in the pictures that you saw, I think that's pretty cool.
Yeah.
I think that's the appropriate size.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'd get a waiver into this motion if there is one to approve it to allow two signs to
be consistent with the signs.
Is there a fire lane going to the back, to the north side of the road?
Yeah.
There's a service road coming between Stein-Hoffels and where the hotel, or the space as it goes
back there.
And then there's the road coming from the back also.
Two ways to get there.
Yeah.
It really is way to the front.
I thought it was back farther in the first rendition.
We moved it up to kind of be flush with the rest of the buildings on the parking lot side.
Are thinking on that.
And you can tell me I'm wrong.
I hear it a lot.
Thinking on that was twofold.
I thought it just looked better with everything's kind of in line on the parking lot side.
And then it also gets it a little bit further from the road from a noise standpoint.
Obviously we'll have to do some special noise window, reduction windows and whatnot on the
freeway side.
But the distance will help us to there.
Plus it opens up the back if you ever put a package on the back and it gives us that
extra space to use.
Yeah.
I actually like it.
Good at it.
So we're now on.
Okay.
Turn to the signage real quick.
I just want to make sure I have my ducks in a row on my end.
So the current sign code would allow for two wall signs up to 200 square feet do you want?
He's asking for two wall signs.
So he already gets it.
Do you want to just increase the square footage just to.
I want this square footage to be consistent with whatever is on the architectural drawing.
Perfect.
And that may be that may be that already.
Yeah.
I'm not positive.
Otherwise we're going to just come back with a waiver because it's 80 feet over something.
Yeah.
80 square feet.
Right.
I don't know.
So.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is there a motion?
I'll make a motion.
Commissioner Carlson.
Is there a second?
I'll second.
With the understanding of the modifications.
Yeah.
That was all the modifications that we're going to discuss and then the liquor license is
probably.
Yes.
The liquor license is probably a big thing too.
Yeah.
I'll start getting liquor from total wine and bringing it.
Yeah.
I think it's going to be a great place for a hotel.
Yeah.
It'll be good.
Yeah.
And the hotel studies suggest it as much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's going to be done in two weeks.
My family's coming to town.
You'll have to send them to Waukesha for now.
Sorry.
It takes about 12, 14 months.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Once we were the aggressive goal is to start construction yet this year and then hopefully
they open by the end of 27.
But that is very aggressive.
The weather is going to have to cooperate and we're going to have to have a few things
go our way.
So normally it's 15-ish months by the time we start pushing dirt actually opening the
doors.
Question for you.
What's the going rate for?
You know, it's really market by market.
The feasibility study that was done suggested that the average daily rate should average
somewhere around that 150-ish mark.
And again, that season, there may be nights in the busy times where we're getting $300
a night, but there may be a Tuesday night in December, January, February, March that we'd
be happy to rent your room for $109 or $119.
So it's a commodity that expires every night and once you didn't sell it, you can't ever
sell that night.
Yeah.
That's true.
But I mean, we're upper middle class.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, it's very comparable to one of the big brands.
We're based out of Nina, Wisconsin.
We're 161 hotels open or under construction in 26 states.
My partner and I own the brand or the franchise company, Cobblestone Hotels.
We own a general contracting company that'll be the builder.
We have a management company that we own that'll operate it out of the 161 hotels, about
30 of them are corporate stores and this will be another corporate store, where we'll
be the majority owner.
So I live in the Piwaki area, spend a lot of time over this way.
And we started talking about this with the guys from Cobalt on the land and then I was
introduced to Mayor Nitsky.
It was interesting because 30 years ago, my wife lived in Overlook Farms when I started
dating her and I drove by here all the time living up in Hartford and I never had a dream
up building a hotel and now it's really cool because you guys have done a great job with
the city, but that development also just, it's kind of really turned that whole area
around.
What does your son do?
There's a lot of my money, racist stock cars.
So there's an Allen Quikki connection there too, which whenever Greenfield pops up Allen
Quikki and that's another thing to, with this Main Street prototype, we'll be building
all the guestroom artwork, our local historical pictures.
So there will be at least some way somehow an Allen Quikki picture and then there's actually
a mural in the lobby, like a wallpaper mural on one of the walls of a local historical
picture.
So I normally don't get involved in that but I'll be big in a favor or two from our operations
people to have a pick or two on some pictures.
So his son is a pretty accomplished, new or younger accomplished race car driver.
What, what, is he driving trucks now or super late models and then a Midwest truck series
he's dabbled a little bit and some of the bigger truck stuff, NASCAR wise, but as he
said, his dad doesn't love them that much.
All right, motion was made and seconded, right?
All in favor?
Aye.
All opposed?
Motion carries.
Thank you.
Thank you all very much.
Appreciate it.
I just want to give a couple updates on a couple occupancy permits.
The next month's big things come in Elizabeth presidents is going to come back for conceptual
review.
So they're going to be looking just for some feedback on that again.
There is a new user going to VC beauty school.
So pretty prepared for a rezone and a CSM for that.
And then I just wanted to give a quick update on 33 22 West Layton Avenue.
That is where Mr. Chicken is located after months of a lot of work from staff and the
city attorney and emails and all that kind of stuff that they are implementing their landscape
plan now and they are actively taking out the asphalt.
If you remember that property over on Lumis it has the paved the whole back part has a
really steep part coming right off the alley and that's being ripped out.
It's going to have a retaining wall and landscaping and it's really just going to look a lot nicer.
So after eight years we're finally getting what we were promised.
Oh, I think it's longer than that.
It's been 27 years.
Well, I've been here for eight years.
Since pizza.
Yeah.
We did.
I did look at the old historical and since the building was built in, what was it, 67 70
something is all been paved.
So we're very excited for it to not be entirely paved anymore.
So that's all I got.
Just one quick thing under community development report.
So like when you're the mayor and stuff you want the city to be a better place and you
want it to be active, activated.
You want people to visit your city a lot, right?
I think we all do.
I mean that's kind of what we do what we do.
So over the weekend I was at the turf event, right?
And I left there and it was really active.
And then I drove down Loomis to Layton and I took a right.
And I drove by Conkel Park where the stuff was happening at the beer garden.
And then I went past that and the miniature golf course was pretty active at that night.
And then I went a little bit further and I got to the house of Harley event that was
going on.
It was pretty active.
And then I went through the row construction of, you know, which is supposed to be done.
It'll be done by October I think, right?
And then I went, you know, past cops and it was it was hopping, right?
And then I went, I kept going down late in Avenue and I looked at Cooper's Hawk and it
was pretty darn crowded and like all of the stuff that we've been trying to do for a really
long time.
I can recall a time, you know, I could, I could take that trip 20 years ago and there
would have been, you know, an old tool and die environmentally sensitive problem at the
turf, right?
And I could have taken a right and Conkel Park would have basically been a field with concrete
blocks protruding from it with no activation whatsoever.
And a volleyball court kind of off an asphalt thing, there might have been a softball game.
The miniature golf course may have been going, but it didn't, even 20 years ago was, it was
a little challenged, right?
House of Harley, 20 years ago was part was a hardware store.
If you'll remember that and a lampshade place, I think.
Do you remember all that?
That was an 80.
It was a 20.
Well, 25.
30.
Right?
But it doesn't look like it, 20 years ago, it didn't look like it looks now.
I think the new house has definitely been in there.
And you know, and cops probably look, I think it didn't have the corner was there with
the gas station, which is why, you know, they can't build on it for a while.
So that's kind of why it is what it is right now, you know, as a meditation kind of area.
And 84 South was the old sign-offles on the corner and those homes, right?
The landscape in 176th Street wasn't there either.
No, wasn't there, and it needs to be kind of spruced up a little bit.
Oh, yeah.
Is there anything that's coming here?
Coping with an 84th Street, right across the street from 84 South.
Now there's a sign there that says development opportunity.
So I'm not quite sure what that's about.
I don't know if you've been immediately north of Penny Mustard, I'm actually very aware
of it.
Two houses.
They do.
I do.
Yeah.
So the two houses immediately north of Penny Mustard are owned by Penny Mustard.
They'll be coming to plan commission next month for CSM and rezone.
Okay.
And as I'm sitting here, although this is in Greenfield, the Sendex on Hylun Hunter
and Edgerton.
Yep.
Quick trip, apparently.
Yeah.
Bought them.
Bought it.
I didn't ever, didn't know that.
That's good.
I mean, while we still don't have a quick trip and anybody wants one, the mere fact that
one's four blocks from my house is pretty good.
But I can get my donuts without having to go all the way down to Minaj, you know?
I love those donuts.
They're really good.
Chickens good.
The Mountain Dew flavored donuts weren't good.
I got to tell you, I was excited that they were going to be good, but they weren't good.
But the cherry ones and the, yeah, you just see a cannon.
One quick trip is kind of close to Bucky's.
There's a quick trip on Ryan out there, right?
There's one on Ross.
Is it not Ross?
What is it?
Drexel.
Drexel.
Yeah.
The one that's kind of weird, it's like part of the industrial park over there.
Right over there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They just redid the whole thing.
I'm not sure I'm going to be driving no creek to go to Bucky's just to, yeah.
Last year, we were driving through, like, my home from, uh, Dali Park's place.
You were at Dali Park's place?
Dali World?
You were there?
We stepped up to the Bucky's and, uh, we built it, Dali.
Just to get into the parking lot, we had to wait 10 minutes for it to come in.
Oh, my goodness.
And there's eight percent acre in the park.
We have over 120 pounds.
Yeah.
I just think.
And you go inside.
And it's all the wall people.
It's a gas station.
Yeah.
Well, with a Walmart at the edge.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Pretty much like a, yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I wonder if there's down on a serious kid.
I don't know.
I wonder if there's down on a serious kid.
So, this is, I just, community, and I know we want to get out of here, but under community
development report, I'm stretching it here a little bit.
But back when 84th South was started, that was the same time that Akia was looking around,
right?
And it's like, why don't you put in Akia there, right, on the 40 acres?
So, Akia would take the entire 40 acres.
I don't know what Akia's are worth.
So, do you want to, in Akia, 40 acres of your most valuable property?
Or do you want sort of a really true mixed use development that's worth 200 million?
So that's always the challenge with some of that stuff across the street, over at spring
wall.
And it sounds like that's still moving along.
There was an article in the paper about Mandel last week, if you saw that, it should have
no material impact on anything that's happened.
Yeah, they sold off, right?
And they sold off?
I think they sold off parts of it.
So, that stuff's all complicated, it's all taxes, and it's all this and that, but, so
you could, you know, do you want to Woodmans or, and Woodmans isn't going there, although
they looked at the site once.
Do you want to Woodmans that's worth 18 million, or do you want housing that brings more people
to your community?
It's $56 million, so you kind of want, you know, and it is naturally mixed use, there's
a pharmacy there, there's a grocery store there, right?
Bike trail?
There is a bike trail there, there's a restaurant there, that's going to-
The access to Willard's fourth home in the fridge, or is it just a free spot?
So you're constantly, oh, why don't you put a target there, right?
Well, you, we can put a target there, but it's worth, right?
And you could have other things, and, you know, maybe some of those communities like
Oak Creek and Franklin that have a lot of land, you know, they can, once you put a
target there, you know, we'll come visit, right?
So just-
And then there's such values, always a problem, right?
They always-
Yeah.
Challenge to assess value, which also is a problem, right?
With those big box stores or something.
Yeah, so we, I don't know, this is under community development managers report.
We have been involved in litigation with Walmart for a number of years.
Yep.
We received a decision last week that was advantageous to us at the trial court.
I suspect that they're going to appeal, because it wouldn't be a good thing, necessarily,
for them.
But that's the other struggle is that these-
That's why I'm trying to get the grass cut dude, seriously.
It's like they have a lot of the property.
We put a lot of resources into them on a daily basis, and then they turn around and
come back and say, you know, our property is worth less than way less, way, way less than
what we paid for it, not even the bill, just to buy it into environment, right?
Yeah.
I'm just saying, right?
That's a struggle, right?
A more diverse tax base that isn't reliant on one big thing is usually better.
So, anyways.
Hey, Gina, do you have an estimated time for that building that's on 51st and late in there
across from Conkel?
I do not.
I mean, it's all in the inspector's hands at this point in the-
Is it?
Is this moving slower than I would expected?
Having gone through the construction, I have a shelter recently at the turf, you know,
which was supposed to be complete by the middle of July, but the block was this and they couldn't
get that.
Yeah.
Contractors are really- They're stretched thin, so even his hotel, you know, 12 months,
15 months, 18 months to build this thing, right?
Wow.
Why can't you build it quicker, right?
Because things just take time.
I think the weather is- The lead time is on, like, electrical switches and a whole bunch
of other stuff are incredible.
Crazy.
The buildings that I talked about on Loomis that are going to be going up, the precast,
as I understand it, the precast concrete walls, right, have been pre-ordered for months.
Just to get them in queue, to get there.
So it's not like you can just go to Menard, just like, hey, throw some concrete panels
on the back and let's go build something.
It's- The tariffs, clearly, are going to have some challenges, I think, with Canada, with
other prices, maybe, right?
I mean, that's- That stuff is- I mean, that has real impact.
It's not, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Especially on long leads.
So, anyways, is there a motion to adjourn?
I'll make a motion to adjourn.
Sorry, I can- By Commissioner Weiss, I can make Commissioner Carlson, I don't favor.
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