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Call to order the

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Kenosha council meeting for

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Monday, August 17, 2026.

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Roll call please.

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Okay, let the record reflect the quorum is present.

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I want to ask everyone to please rise for a moment of silence followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Tonight I would like to ask everyone to please keep in your thoughts and prayers.

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The memory of Bishop Lawrence Kirby who passed away this past Friday.

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I know he was a friend to many of you in this room and many around this community.

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And our thoughts and prayers with the Kirby family as they deal with his loss.

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Can I get a motion to approve the minutes of July 20th and August 3rd, 2026?

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The move is second.

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Any changes or corrections?

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Seeing none.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries.

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We have 21 citizens that have signed up to speak.

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Each will have three minutes.

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When your name is called please proceed to the podium state your name and address for the record.

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The first speaker is Mary Marcynquez.

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The mic on?

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Yes ma'am.

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Okay.

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Hello.

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I am here tonight because I'm opposed to moving forward with the construction of an AI data center.

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Mary, can we get your name and address for the record please?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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It is my understanding that it will be one of the largest in Wisconsin to date with plans

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for a one-minute-foot complex.

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Mary, I'm sorry.

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You still can't hear me.

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No, I just need your name and address and then we can get started.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Mary Marcynquez, 7641 50th Avenue.

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Thank you ma'am.

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Okay.

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Can I start now?

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Okay.

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Hello.

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I'm opposed to moving forward with the construction of an AI data center in our county.

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It is my understanding that it is one of the largest in Wisconsin to date and it plans

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for a million-foot complex.

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I propose that we the people are allowed to vote on the data center if possible in November.

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I think that we as a state should enact a moratorium on any data center in Wisconsin

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and especially here so close to home.

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We need to ensure that the effects to our climate, rising temperatures, pollution on

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our land and water, as well as noise pollution are held to a minimum.

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There are too many unknowns to date.

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Any proposal, any proposed fossil fuel plants need to be halted.

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We need to utilize only alternative environmentally safe energy sources in the future.

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I have two grandchildren, one, age five, one, nine months and I fear that they will inherit

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the devastating effects of our poor choices.

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They deserve our attention to detail so that their future environment is a livable one

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because it is their environment.

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We need to stop research and take responsibility for our actions.

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We are not at the point where we know enough about using renewable energy in this situation.

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Remember, the CEOs of Microsoft do not have to live in this community after they wreak

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their havoc.

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I am a lover of nature and I was lucky to have spent the last two weeks in Wisconsin

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and Michigan reserves.

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On this vacation, I went to Pennvine, Wisconsin.

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If you do not know where that is, that is up north, way up north and there is an island

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there surrounded by the Menominee River and that island is protected by we energy.

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We energy has taken and protected the habitats of the plants and animals in that area.

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And I would ask the energy that we can work together.

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If they can protect our habitats, then we can work with them.

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They need to take the responsibility to tell us exactly up front what they are going to

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do and what their role is in data centers.

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Ma'am, you have 30 seconds.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, Nick Prorock.

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Nick Prorock 8858 Sheridan Road.

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Thank you, Mayor and all the persons for your attention this evening.

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I would like to talk about some of the lessons that I have learned about innovation since

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I have been paying attention.

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What is innovation?

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Innovation is recognizing that in the city of 100,000 people, we need outside influence

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and outside investments for growth because there is no way that us commoners could have

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the solutions to our everyday problems.

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Innovation is Microsoft abandoning their climate goals and acknowledging that the profit stream

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from artificial intelligence is more valuable than a future planet that has sustainable

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ecosystems and that is not on fire.

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Innovation is establishing training programs for younger generations to learn how to work

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in industries which are unpopular and unwelcome in the community.

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Innovation is promising thousands of jobs to workers and laborers to build the infrastructure

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that will make our city worse and paying them very well to do it.

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Innovation is NDAs.

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It's recognizing early the projects that people are against and planning through

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secrecy ways to move those projects forward anyway.

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Innovation is creating new realities by saying there is no NDA.

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Innovation is deciding that we don't need land to grow food and understanding that harvesting

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data on people is more profitable.

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There is nothing flashy about feeding the hungry.

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Innovation is rejecting notions like the right to privacy and enforcing mass surveillance

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on everyone and getting that technology to be paid for with our taxes.

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Innovation is allowing outside investors to buy up Kenosha land and water and sell it

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back to the people who were here first.

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Innovation is building luxury apartment buildings and charging homeless people to sleep outside.

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Innovation is figuring out how to assess people's property at higher values so you can charge

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them a lower percentage of property tax but still charge them more money.

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Innovation is doing things more morally grounded people wouldn't consider doing business practices

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like polluting the air and water and tracking where people go 24 hours a day.

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Innovation is recognizing that you are right and we are wrong in abandoning your duties

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to represent the people to achieve your dreams and your growth and your goals and your vision

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for Kenosha is the best path forward.

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Thank you for making Kenosha the center of innovation in southeast Wisconsin.

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I'd like you to request you consider the possibility that the most innovative ideas will come from

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the people who live here not from AI and not from trillion dollar companies.

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Nick you have 30 seconds.

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So I'd like to ask that you don't build this data center, pass a moratorium to make sure

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that our environment and our water is kept clean and safe and thank you for your time.

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Julie, Christian Berry.

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Hi, my name is Julie Christian Berry.

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I live in Pleasant Prairie.

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However, the ill effects of the data center, no, no city, county or other limits.

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I do however own an apartment building at 6703 35th Avenue in Kenosha.

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I'm concerned about the value of my property and the ability to find tenants once the dangers

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of the data center become real.

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My tenants are real people and they matter to me.

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I say with no shame that my four daughters and my five very young grandchildren are the

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people I worry most about.

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I don't have to recite the environmental and human concerns.

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I have this is a third common council meeting I've been to, but the first I have spoken

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at since public speaking does not come easily to me.

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I should have spoken up when the data center went up in Mount Pleasant since we own an

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apartment building and we're seeing, but it seemed to go up overnight.

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These projects are being rushed through secretly.

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No public notices, no information in learning sessions, no town forums to educate people.

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You are elected to represent us, not big tech.

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Pause this debacle by initiating a forum, excuse me, a moratorium so that you can educate

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yourselves please and your constituents.

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Thank you.

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Howard Gusk.

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Howard Gusk is 5914, 128th Avenue, Kenosha, actually town of Paris.

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We own Woofman's Lodge right on the corner there.

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Obviously I'm here against the data center, not against development.

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You line their good neighbors, Amazon was a good neighbor, you know, they've landscaped

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the property, it looks good, not against development in that area.

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I mean, we're talking my street.

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Our street's going now to four lanes from two rural road that's starting next year.

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You know, a data center is not a fit for that area.

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I have large, everyone's talked about the pollution, the energy, what are we all know

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about that.

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My concern really is the constant noise.

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You're hearing out of Texas from all these people that live nearby, the constant drone.

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You're not far from Paris school, which is award winning school, and you have all the

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farm animals there.

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No one knows the impact and what it's going to do to melt production, beef production.

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I think that we need to hit the pause button on this and, you know, everyone's not in my

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backyard.

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Everyone that's speaking here lives quite a distance away.

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We're only about a mile away, maybe two miles away from it.

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Far enough that I won't see it, but all my friends and neighbors, it's in their backyard.

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So, you know, I just want to express that I think this should be done by referendum.

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This should not be jammed down our throats.

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I think, you know, and see, I can pretty much guarantee you're not going to find anybody

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speaking in favor of this.

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But it is amazing that in Texas, it's become that they're putting a moratorium on these

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things.

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Thanks for your time.

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Leslie Brown.

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Leslie Brown, 5914, 128th Avenue, Kenosha.

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I just want to go on record as saying, I believe we need a moratorium on these AI data

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centers.

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They're being rushed through without allowing, you know, the proper information sessions

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in that for the, you know, citizens that are living near and are going to be affected by

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them.

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And what's the rush?

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You know, these, we need to take our time and do, you know, look into this there, you

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know, again, you know, progress, great, you know, but this isn't the type of progress

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that we need.

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You're going to be threatening the health of citizens, you know, future generations.

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A lot of us people out there were on wells, you know, and it's just, and the gas turbine

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plants that they need to power these, that's a whole nother problem.

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And the, the, the plant that they want to power, it will employ eight full-time employees.

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My business, Woofman's Lodge, employs 14 people.

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My small business is going to employ more than one of the power plants that they need

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to run these.

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So I just think that we need to slow things down.

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Let's do this wisely or better yet, let's not, you know, you know, let us have a chance

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at our own future and our own health.

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Thank you.

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Jerry Moore.

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Jerry Moore, 10, 9, 18, 69th Street.

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In my five last council speaks to you.

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The voices in opposition to data centers have been clear and unified.

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We've said no, we've asked for a moratorium, public announcements to the community and

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group forums.

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Even though on issues like this, we really deserve a vote.

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Monday after Monday, we ask and speak into nothingness.

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While an industrial giant stands to disrupt, destroy, displace, change, replace, homelands,

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environments, our health, and Wisconsin culture with ugly and demanding infrastructure.

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Drastic changes uprooting lives, habitats, and land parcels never intended for this scale

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of industrial development.

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70% of Americans oppose data centers.

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And the lack of public notice or group forums is more than disheartening, adding to, I feel,

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intentional secrecy.

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How many of you have even driven by the Mount Pleasant Fairwater Site or seen the nighttime

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glare?

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Recently, I drove to the proposed site, farmhouse windows painted black, as during non-disclosure

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days, something boarded up would have drawn attention and raised too many questions.

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To me again, secrecy.

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Driving down UE, I saw the route a July 6 speaker said was the most beautiful of bike

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rides.

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I saw natural pollinator patches with beads, birdsong, and crickets.

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Experienced ecosystems that, through city partnerships, you're now trying to create here

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in the city, but destroying in Paris because of land decisions you made to annex rezone

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that uproot lives, lands, legacies.

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The citizens we probably can forgive disagreement, we can forgive difficult decisions.

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What we don't forgive is feeling that our voice is never mattered.

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Be transparent, Council, represent constituents, not boardrooms.

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We need room for difficult questions, respectful disagreement, and information not heard or

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thought about.

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We need public servants who encourage participation and earn trust.

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Give a legacy on Council as doing the correct thing.

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Write the wrongs and say act as if you stood up and tried.

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May I be happy?

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If not one of the complicity and secrecy, I am proud and thankful of the younger friends

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behind me who care about what happens beyond their lifetime.

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Maybe that is what legacy is all about, what we cared enough to keep intact.

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Thank you.

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Amy Mayer.

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Hello.

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I'm Amy Mayer.

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I live at 614, 15th place in Kenosha, and I have a few statistics that I think are very

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important to consider.

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One large data center will use between 30 to 150 million gallons in one month.

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A medium one uses between 9 and 15 million gallons a month.

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And what we're finding is that once the cooling process is done, some of that water is turned

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to steam.

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However, some of it is going into our municipal systems.

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Now we know what's going on in Indiana.

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Right now, Indiana has between 72 and 125 data centers.

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So think of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Indiana, we're all around Lake Michigan.

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And the number of these data centers and the amount of water that's being consumed on

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a monthly basis, a citizen in Indiana had stated she has never seen anything like this

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in 45 years.

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So yes, there is rain, but perhaps the sewer systems are overloaded.

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Not just that, there's heavy electrical usage.

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If the system is overloaded, something that has not yet been explored, for long term,

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people won't be able to access hot water, they're cooking, they're refrigeration.

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So this is why it's imperative that as a community and as a country, we really need

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to examine and think very carefully about everything that is going on.

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It's very serious.

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So the tech players want to run fast and furious, run with the ball, of course, because they're

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going to be gaining from that financially.

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So we really need to put this into perspective and make an educated decision.

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Thank you.

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Jackie Simm Hello, Jacqueline Simm, 5502, 63rd Street.

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I'm standing before you tonight to ask the council to enact a moratorium on the proposed

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AI data center in Kenosha.

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There are four points of concern that I would like to raise.

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First, this industrial warehouse is not an innovation hub.

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We are being sold a story about tech innovation, but let's be honest, handing over Kenosha

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land for massive 1 million square foot industrial warehouse complex does not sound like innovation

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nor does it benefit our community.

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Second, the job numbers are vague.

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Official minutes from the November 2024 plan commission meetings showed that the developers

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representatives stated that each building would employ 10 to 20 workers.

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Now public statements claim around 50 per building with employees and vendors occupying

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each building.

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Throwing temporary contractors, third party vendors, maintenance, security and technical

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employees into a single baseline number, a high to the number of permanent high paying

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local jobs.

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We are told 80 to $100,000 per year, but let's be clear that's only for people with graduate

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degrees and we don't know what that actual figure is.

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Is it four people?

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Is it eight people?

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We don't know.

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There's a lot of temporary benefit while the buildings are being constructed, but I want

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you to consider the long term impacts.

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Third, when asked about the water source for the site, the official FAQ gives a single

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vague sentence, quote, the source for the site would be from the Kenosha water utility,

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end quote.

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That complete lack of detail ignores where the water actually comes from, our beautiful

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gem Lake Michigan.

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It hides the massive systemic water footprint required by the power plants to generate

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the electricity that this facility will require every day.

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We're being told it's 4,500 gallons per day, but that's not actually true because the energy

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source, they also require water.

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So that number's not included in this 4,500 gallons per day figure.

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So that needs to be stated plainly and transparently to the people.

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Fourth, there are documented noise issues at the existing facilities in Wisconsin.

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In Port Washington, residents have filed a class action lawsuit against local facility

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regarding sound levels.

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As recently as July 20th, 2026, thank you, Microsoft confirmed that engineering teams

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are continuing to evaluate and mitigate the noise at that site.

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We do not want Kenosha to become another caution story for Wisconsin.

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Kenosha County should not be Microsoft's guinea pig.

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I urge this council to listen to the people who live here, protect our resources and pass

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a moratorium to shut this project down.

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Thank you.

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Dorothy Nolan.

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Hello, my name is Dorothy Nolan.

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I live at 802.21st Avenue in Kenosha.

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My comments today are regarding the proposed data center.

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I last spoke to this council about my concerns on air quality because I feel strongly about

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the data center extraction of our resources like land and water.

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I've been looking closely at the headline warning signs around the country on this topic.

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Here are my recent top 10.

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Number one, Governor Abbott of Texas has halted data center approvals.

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He has directed the state's regulators to complete a comprehensive audit before projects

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can move forward.

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Two, the illusion of waterless AI, how closed-loop data centers shift the freshwater burden

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to power plants.

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Three, experts say we don't need more data centers to build better AI.

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Four, Lake County residents file lawsuit to block 472 Acre Data Center campus in Grays

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Lake, Illinois.

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Five, AI's impact on the environment is absolutely horrifying.

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Six, open AI says it's AI went rogue and launched an unprecedented cyber attack.

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Seven, we energies is already proposing a 14% rate increase over the next two years.

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Eight, inside this secretive deal for a $10 billion data center in rural North Carolina.

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Nine, the left and right agree on one thing, no data centers.

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Ten, a massive amount of data center power abruptly disconnected from the largest US

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electric grid in July, 2026, causing a voltage disturbance that could be felled from D.C.

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to Chicago down to Miami.

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There's a common thread that continues to surface when you look at the headlines and

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that's one of lack of trust and a technology that's out of control.

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Collectively, the public trust has been eroded given the secrecy and silence around these

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data centers.

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My concern is that the city of Kenosha may not be looking at the resource extraction

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around the country.

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We do not have limited resources.

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We have no regulations or plan for massive job losses.

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The projected pollution is a major health hazard and our electric grid is not ready

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to handle a load.

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You have an obligation as a governing body to act on our behalf and not the tech companies.

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Miami, you have 30 seconds.

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Look around the country.

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This is not just an issue in Kenosha.

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The warning signs are everywhere.

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We need a pause on this to make sure the proper guardrails are in place.

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Thanks.

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Greg Kessen.

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Greg Kressen, 802. 21st Avenue, Kenosha.

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I say no to the data center and I also say no to the gas plants.

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My comments today are about the details of the power issue that occurred on July 22nd

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because of the data center in Virginia.

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Just before 8 a.m. on July 22nd, electricity flickered on and off for about 10 minutes.

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An engineer's data says it happened throughout the eastern half of the United States, from

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Chicago to Boston to Miami.

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He ties a problem to a data center alley in Ashburn, Virginia and says that seamlessly

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small blip is a sign that our infrastructure is in danger.

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Experts say cracks in our infrastructure grid are starting to show as the data center industry

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consumes electricity as a rate this world has never seen or experienced before.

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The data centers are such a big load on the grid that they have that departmental impact

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on the surrounding grid said Bob Marshall with ting labs.

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The company sells a device to plug into the wall to monitor your home's electricity and

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alert you if something's awry to try to prevent an electrical fire.

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With millions of these devices in your homes across the U.S., Marshall's data collected

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shows something he flagged as a concern at 7.56 a.m. electricity throughout the eastern

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half of the U.S. dropped, spiked, dropped, spiked and leveled off.

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Marshall said it happened a few more times over the next 10 minutes.

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This one event serving either one building or whatever the data center complex is impacted

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the entire region and this is what experts are worried about.

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News 4 reached out to Dominion energy about the power grid glitch.

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The power company said a piece of equipment on one of the high-end voltage transmission

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lines that serves data centers failed knocking it out of service.

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As a result, the data center system switched back up power.

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Dominican energy did not disconnect area data centers from the grid.

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The data centers on systems transferred from the backup power for a very short period

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of time.

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Ting labs provided News 4 with a graphic showing the scale of the service disruption.

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The company said orange is really bad and red is worse.

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Those colors were more, the colors covered more than half the U.S.

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Wisconsin is completely covered in orange.

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People working on regulations around this, they're concerned on these events and the

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future could cause the grid to become unstable and if that does happen back in a few, over

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a few more minutes over 10, we'd be dealing with a real problem and the possibility of

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a blackout.

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Our hospitals and schools and everyone that is sick, we need the power for humans.

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Speaker Arabella Kessler.

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Arabella Kessler, 33, 27, 47th Avenue, Kenosha, Wisconsin.

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Today I'm here to focus on a demand for a moratorium.

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All over the state, moratoriums are being passed to protect our residents, lands and

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lakes.

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Green County, Manitowoc County, Dane County, Dodge County and the city slash townships

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of Superior, Madison, Waterloo, just to name a few of all already passed moratoriums with

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dozens of other places having them or outright bans proposed.

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The village of Wrightstown had a referendum on their primary ballot this past week asking

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the people their opinion on data center development.

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The answer was an overwhelming no, we don't want them here with 87% of residents voting

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against development.

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Additionally, the small town of Caseville, Wisconsin had a proposed $1 billion data center

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and despite a potential 5.5 million annually in property tax revenue, they unanimously

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struck it down 44-0 going as far as to enact an outright ban on data centers in their town.

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Clearly, other counties, cities and townships see the dangers and concerns that residents

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have brought up and are willing to listen to their constituents.

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Why won't Kenosha?

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Why are we rushing if not purely for political and financial incentives to build something

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when we know so little about how it may affect Kenosha and the lake as a whole?

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You can say you know the potential effects, but have you listened to any scientists outside

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of the ones on Microsoft's payroll?

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Maybe it's because Microsoft has offered grants to our already underfunded public institutions

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which we have accepted.

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Microsoft has been laying its seeds here for years, quite literally by partnering with

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us last year to create pollinator patches, lulling us into a quiet sense of security

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before they leave us high and dry.

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Look across the country, this is what these corporations do.

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Another point I'd like to mention today is my strong suggestion to host a public town

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hall where you can clearly hear the voices of the folks you represent.

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The mayor was comfortable running town halls as an older person for his district.

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What changed?

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To only speak to residents individually shows a lack of confidence in the city's ability

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to defend their position on the benefits of hyperscale data centers and an awareness

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that a majority of the city is not in favor.

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You are only breeding division.

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What are you so afraid of?

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Does it annoy you to sit and listen to me?

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To participate in the role you chose and were elected to do?

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I strongly encourage each older person to independently research this issue and talk

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to the folks they represent.

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Whether you want to believe in the facts presented to you or not, there are many reasons to support

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a moratorium.

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These technocrat billionaires and hyperscale data centers are rapidly changing the political

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and physical landscape of our country.

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What's the risk of airing on the side of caution?

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Once we sign the contracts, once we agree to these companies' demands, we lose all leverage.

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You cannot seriously expect me to believe, do you even believe, that we can check and

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balance Microsoft?

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The same Microsoft that currently has an open lawsuit against them for failing to follow

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through with their promises in Mount Pleasant?

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Which by the way, despite this and their commitment to being a good neighbor, in the next

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few years they plan on tripling the amount of energy they are using now.

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If you look across the country, there are countless lawsuits popping up against other

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data centers for similar issues.

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In terms of fighting back against these companies, let's look at the township of Sailing, Michigan.

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There was a proposed $16 billion data center, which residents helped prevent.

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However, two days later, the developers and landowners sued the township and contractually

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bullied them into backing down.

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The data center will be allowed to move forward with construction entirely against the town's

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wishes.

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This is just one example, but if you'd like, I can come back with more.

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These are corporations that have the ability to overrule local governments, and we need

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to be talking about it, and we need to be angry about it.

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I know I am, which is exactly why Kenosha needs to pass a moratorium now.

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You all still have a chance to show me.

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Thank you.

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I'm just got Albert.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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She's almost done.

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Next speaker, please.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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Folks, come on.

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We're being respected.

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We're being respected.

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We're being respectful here.

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I'm just asking, please.

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Open needing law violations.

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Ma'am, thank you.

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Next speaker, please.

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Thank you.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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You're going to be escorted out.

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You're going to be served.

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This is a, I'm going to ask you one more time, please.

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We are being respectful by listening.

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This is a meeting.

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We have rules that we have to follow.

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I'm asking you nicely, sir.

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Otherwise, I'm going to ask you to leave.

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I'm asking you to leave.

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This thing's happening.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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I know it's time.

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Oh, wow.

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Thank you.

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Please continue.

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Thank you.

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We just need your name and address for the record, please.

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Thank you.

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My name is Scott Albert, 7822, 30th Avenue.

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Progress has to be positive and profitable.

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Good evening, Mr. Mayor and ladies and gentlemen of the Common Council.

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Thank you, Mayor, for meeting with me several weeks ago.

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I have a discussion about the hyperscale AI data center.

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I appreciate the amount of details that was taken to ensure this proposed data center

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but operate in a way that would protect all aspects and concerns being expressed

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by the citizens, neighbors, and friends of Kenosha.

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I still do not want a hyperscale AI data center.

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However, I am asking for a moratorium.

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A moratorium is a temporary stop or pause on a specific activity, rule, or legal duty.

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Governments, courts, or businesses use a moratorium to delay actions,

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such as paying debts, building new houses, or catching certain fish

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until a problem is fixed or a situation is studied.

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I ask you, Mr. Mayor and ladies and gentlemen of the Common Council,

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for said moratorium so we can study the hyperscale AI data centers that are already functioning.

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I believe these are functioning and are only theories behind the operations of the hyperscale AI data centers.

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A moratorium will allow studies to be conducted in order to fully evaluate the operations of said data centers.

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Last Tuesday, I exercised my civil duty to vote my conscience.

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Today, I stand here with my fellow citizens of Kenosha, my neighbors, all your neighbors,

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to exercise yet another civil duty, and that is to stand here and vocalize my opposition to the hyperscale AI data center.

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I would like the opportunity to vote on this proposal and hope the option will be available as a referendum.

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As for today, I stand here and ask as a citizen of Kenosha for moratorium. Thank you.

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Colton Roberts.

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Hello, my name is Colton Roberts. I live at 47, 10, 18th of Kenosha, Wisconsin.

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It'll be a second week. I say it, coward.

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Pure cowardice is being shown from our administration, not only to the disrespect to the people,

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not only to the blagrant violation of the spirit of our First Amendment rights,

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but due to the fact that half of y'all are over the age of 60 and will not live to see the effects of the data center.

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When my daughter turns 21, they can legally drink, what if she has asthma, due to the shit y'all done?

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What happens if when I'm going to retire, I can't, because I'm on a deathbed, because you in basilic freakwads, I don't know,

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do nothing but push for a carcinogenic building to be built in our societies?

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What happens when there's no one left to sue because y'all are dead?

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What are we going to do?

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We can't tear down the building once it's built.

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Say it again, cowardice is being shown from this administration.

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I'm looking you in the eye, Mr. Mayor.

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It's tomato-headed freak.

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No, why should I show respect to the people who are not respecting me?

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I have one representative of the City Council, Mr. Kelly McKay.

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He has shown me former respect, compassion, understanding, and kindness than that man sitting up there.

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Just because you don't like what someone has to say, you still got to listen to it.

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I listened to every single word you said when you invited me to speak to you one-on-one.

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And I gave it thought, and I disagreed with you.

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But I didn't call for the damn cops to bring me out, sorry to bring you out, because I didn't like what you had to say.

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Shame, nothing but shame.

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I wish I'd want to say, but my heart is racing, I can barely think of it calling you fox.

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Next speaker, Leanne Carpenter.

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Leanne, last name starts with a C.

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Leanne on 43rd Avenue.

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My writing was a little sloppy, Carpenter.

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Leanne Carpenter of 1585, 43rd Avenue.

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I want to speak about the non-disclosure agreement, which is probably why people are very pissed off.

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I actually looked up the definition because I wasn't sure of all the specifics of what an NDA was.

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And I found an NDA is a legally binding contract in which one or more parties agree not to disclose specific confidential information to others.

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So were the others, the citizens of Kenosha?

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It protects trade secrets, business strategies, proprietary technology, and other sensitive data by creating a confidential relationship between the two parties.

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Now, a confidential relationship with trust between you guys and Microsoft, not between you guys and the others, which is the way it's supposed to be.

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When you tell us, the others, to trust you, the data center will bring jobs, financial incentives for the community, and there won't be any negative impacts because Microsoft gave you guys a sales pitch and you trust them, you believe them.

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While at the same time, you're keeping the terms, the negotiations, the future predictions, a secret behind an NDA, you are lying by omission to all the others.

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You're breaking trust in a big, big, big way.

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By agreeing to the NDA, you're telling Microsoft that the citizens of Kenosha are a nuisance, a stumbling block, or hurdle to be overcome, something to be dealt with after the fact.

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Put it up and we'll deal with them later.

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And whether or not anybody in this room actually has those thoughts or had those thoughts in the beginning, it doesn't matter because Microsoft does have those thoughts.

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They are a large company, a successful company, that's how they got where they are.

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They don't worry about the aftermath, which is us.

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They worry about their bottom line.

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That's why you guys are here to protect us, to advocate for us.

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Microsoft or any other big company that comes in here wanting our stuff for whatever reason should be considered guilty or not safe until they prove themselves to be otherwise.

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In this case, jobs and cash incentives were used as bribes for your silence.

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You have 30 seconds.

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A project of this magnitude, if it's truly in the best interest, of the community should not require secrecy.

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Period.

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Please do the right thing.

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Listen to us.

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We need a moratorium.

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If not a full stop to the building of this data center or any other data center proposal from any other company.

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Anybody else who wants to come in here and use our stuff.

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Thank you for your time.

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Hello.

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My name is Ed Ruka, 7727 Fifth Avenue.

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I'm standing here tonight, not a policy expert.

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Just a resident deeply concerned about the data center.

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What it means for our homes, our kids and our wallets.

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When the big tech companies come to town, they talk about job creation tax revenues.

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But when you look at the past pitch, doctors, scientists, environmental health researchers are flagging serious health and financial risks that hit us.

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That hit us right at the neighborhood level.

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Here's what real world data shows from an independent study from Dr. Michael Cork, who has a PhD from Harvard.

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Dr. Cork has been studying data centers for over 15 years.

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First, the air we breathe.

01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:18.440
These facilities bring massive banks of diesel backup generators and sometimes even power their own plants right on site.

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After recent study models, national data centers grows shows that air pollution from these sites cause over 1000 premature deaths

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and will cost our healthcare system 20 billion every single year by the year 2030.

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Other studies have found just one large data center running on site power can cause up to 90 million a year in local health damages.

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Mostly our kids ending up in the ER with asthma attacks, our seniors facing heart issues.

01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:06.440
And I know that many of you have children and grandchildren that you would not want to harm.

01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:16.440
And as some of you may be seniors, like me, or have parents that are seniors, I'm sure you don't want to cut their lives short.

01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:21.440
Or maybe some might want to get rid of their parents a little early in life.

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Yes, I've heard the arguments of Uline and Amazon and other companies that would have diesel trucks running.

01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:38.440
And you would the same exhaust that these generators would.

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But we have to remember one thing.

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Each truck employs somebody.

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A diesel generator doesn't employ anybody.

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So you have 30 seconds.

01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:51.440
All right.

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Second noise, the nonstop noise from data centers.

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Huge cooling fans 24, 7, 365 of a low frequency and the study of noise pollution shows that living near the constant hum.

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People's sleepless, raises stress hormones, and spikes of blood pressure.

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Imagine not being outside the whole time in your backyard when these are here.

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Sorry, your time is up.

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Okay, thank you very much.

01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:32.440
Next speaker, Gary Comack.

01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:38.440
Gary, I'm 37th Street.

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Last call for Gary.

01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:53.440
Next speaker, Niam Raman.

01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:58.440
Neve Raman, 6837, 155th Avenue.

01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:06.440
To be honest, there's no place that rather be less tonight on this beautiful summer evening, especially given all the rain we've had recently.

01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:15.440
Yet I find my evenings, weekends, and even breaks during the workday being taken up by a massive amount of volunteer hours fighting this data center.

01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:26.440
I, and a slew of other folks that's growing and growing, are working overtime, balancing full time jobs, childcare, family obligations, summer events, wedding planning,

01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:32.440
house side hustles, summer school, vacations, sick parents, aging pets, losses.

01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:34.440
The list goes on and on.

01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:38.440
Yet we continue to show up to these meetings as futile as they feel.

01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:46.440
We continue to put hours and hours into video editing, graphic design, content strategy, yard sign distribution, event planning,

01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.440
contacting speakers, rallying residents, door knocking.

01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:53.440
I could talk your ear off on how much we've done and are still doing.

01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:56.440
Just know we're coming for your jobs.

01:05:56.440 --> 01:06:04.440
I'm seriously impressed at the amount of courage, intelligence, sharp-minded and whitted, strategic, quick-acting, hard-working, et cetera,

01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:07.440
folks I've come to know through this activism.

01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:12.440
People of all ages, races, genders, political ideologies, it's honestly refreshing.

01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:16.440
And I know Kenosha will be in good hands for the next generation.

01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:20.440
But what I fear is that we'll have so much cleaning up we'll need to do.

01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:29.440
Cleaning up and paying financially but also physically and mentally for the self-indulgent, greedy, ignorant, irresponsible,

01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:36.440
I don't know, choices made by our current elected officials, who may I remind since it seems like they need reminding every two weeks

01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:40.440
work for us, the residents of the city that they govern.

01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:46.440
So I could rant and rave up here all day as I have before and as everyone else has,

01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:51.440
and in private phone calls with my alderman and other alderman, but let me ask you these questions.

01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:55.440
What will your reaction be if and when our drinking water turns brown?

01:06:55.440 --> 01:07:00.440
Can you sleep with yourself at night knowing you're endangering the constituents of your districts?

01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:07.440
Why do you simply refuse to provide any level of dialogue that's not in a private one-on-one conversation?

01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:13.440
Did you see how viral the video went the last two weeks when Montana was escorted out by the cops?

01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:20.440
Yeah, that went viral and had about 60,000 views, over 2,000 likes and hundreds of comments.

01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:25.440
And quite frankly, the vast majority was praised for her speaking out.

01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:30.440
We acknowledged she went over her three minute time, but everybody was in favor and wanted to hear what she had to say.

01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:32.440
You have 30 seconds.

01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.440
Will you have any regret if you're not elected back into office?

01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:40.440
Since I won't get answers to those questions tonight anyways, I'll just say like many others have before,

01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:45.440
if you're not listening and you're not paying attention, a wave is rising higher and higher,

01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:50.440
and we're taking you all down with it.

01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:53.440
Next speaker, Daniel Laska.

01:08:20.440 --> 01:08:42.440
Daniel Laska, we've all met before.

01:08:42.440 --> 01:08:44.440
Yes, has he yet?

01:08:44.440 --> 01:08:45.440
Cool.

01:08:45.440 --> 01:08:47.440
My name is Dan Laska.

01:08:47.440 --> 01:08:48.440
We've all met before.

01:08:48.440 --> 01:08:52.440
24-0-3-136 have.

01:08:52.440 --> 01:09:03.440
As I said before, I share a property line with Microsoft, and tonight I'm talking because this is very personal for us.

01:09:03.440 --> 01:09:12.440
I'll personal what I just put up is the actual distance from the wall in my house to Microsoft property.

01:09:12.440 --> 01:09:14.440
I'm R2.

01:09:14.440 --> 01:09:20.440
That to that is a distance to heavy industrial.

01:09:20.440 --> 01:09:25.440
You guys did that November 21st, 2024.

01:09:25.440 --> 01:09:30.440
And for all those, you can see the video of them voting on it on the Kenosha website.

01:09:30.440 --> 01:09:32.440
You can dig for it.

01:09:33.440 --> 01:09:34.440
So that's why it's personal.

01:09:34.440 --> 01:09:36.440
I'm trying to protect my family.

01:09:36.440 --> 01:09:37.440
I'm a father.

01:09:37.440 --> 01:09:38.440
You're a father's.

01:09:38.440 --> 01:09:40.440
How would you feel?

01:09:40.440 --> 01:09:42.440
This is about the size of a patio, right?

01:09:42.440 --> 01:09:44.440
It's 10 feet, 4 inches.

01:09:44.440 --> 01:09:46.440
It recurs how far that is.

01:09:46.440 --> 01:09:51.440
It's 10 feet, 4 inches to the wall of my house to heavy industrial.

01:09:51.440 --> 01:09:57.440
November 24th, November 21st, 2024.

01:09:57.440 --> 01:09:59.440
You all seem kind of pretty happy in the room.

01:09:59.440 --> 01:10:01.440
You almost wanted to give high fives.

01:10:01.440 --> 01:10:03.440
A lot of gaveling going on.

01:10:03.440 --> 01:10:05.440
I'm pretty proud.

01:10:05.440 --> 01:10:07.440
That moment changed this.

01:10:07.440 --> 01:10:10.440
I thought I had a house that was safe.

01:10:10.440 --> 01:10:14.440
I wanted to raise my family, raise my children in.

01:10:14.440 --> 01:10:19.440
Instead, I'm up here, and I've added the minutes because you get three minutes, and then we're getting five minutes.

01:10:19.440 --> 01:10:21.440
And I applaud everybody here for showing up.

01:10:21.440 --> 01:10:22.440
This was amazing.

01:10:22.440 --> 01:10:24.440
Good for you guys.

01:10:24.440 --> 01:10:29.440
I had 18 minutes in front of you over the past six or seven sessions to talk.

01:10:29.440 --> 01:10:32.440
And I've tried to come up with an angle every time, a different one.

01:10:32.440 --> 01:10:34.440
This was my latest.

01:10:34.440 --> 01:10:43.440
But I'm up here as a father trying to protect his family, his children, as a representative that loves his community of Paris.

01:10:43.440 --> 01:10:45.440
He's trying to protect my community.

01:10:45.440 --> 01:10:47.440
I'm trying to protect my land name.

01:10:47.440 --> 01:10:51.440
I have a lot of equity in that.

01:10:51.440 --> 01:10:55.440
In a weird way, I'm trying to protect your community.

01:10:55.440 --> 01:11:00.440
How ironic is that when your guys come into us?

01:11:00.440 --> 01:11:01.440
How many of you have visited?

01:11:01.440 --> 01:11:07.440
I live 800 feet from the actual intersection of 142 and 36.

01:11:07.440 --> 01:11:09.440
You've been out there?

01:11:09.440 --> 01:11:10.440
Seen it?

01:11:10.440 --> 01:11:13.440
Did you look at it before you voted on it?

01:11:13.440 --> 01:11:15.440
Would you buy a car before you looked at it?

01:11:15.440 --> 01:11:17.440
Would you buy a house before you looked at it?

01:11:21.440 --> 01:11:25.440
So you have 30 seconds?

01:11:25.440 --> 01:11:27.440
This is very personal to me.

01:11:27.440 --> 01:11:29.440
And I'm not going to stop.

01:11:29.440 --> 01:11:30.440
You came to my doorstep.

01:11:30.440 --> 01:11:38.440
You came 10 feet, 4 inches from my doorstep.

01:11:38.440 --> 01:11:40.440
We're serious people.

01:11:40.440 --> 01:11:46.440
We're very serious and we're getting very organized.

01:11:46.440 --> 01:11:51.440
Sometimes, if you win, you can really lose.

01:11:51.440 --> 01:11:56.440
Thank you.

01:11:56.440 --> 01:12:02.440
Next speaker, Jared Hunt.

01:12:02.440 --> 01:12:09.440
Jared Hunt.

01:12:09.440 --> 01:12:13.440
Last call for Jared Hunt.

01:12:14.440 --> 01:12:17.440
59-21-6th Avenue.

01:12:17.440 --> 01:12:21.440
Next speaker, Samuel Erving.

01:12:22.440 --> 01:12:28.440
I'm going to bring it down here.

01:12:28.440 --> 01:12:35.440
Don't start my time, or do you see it?

01:12:35.440 --> 01:12:40.440
Cripple, come on.

01:12:40.440 --> 01:12:44.440
Samuel Irving, 88-29-17th Avenue.

01:12:45.440 --> 01:12:52.440
I'm a big movie fan.

01:12:52.440 --> 01:12:54.440
And arts have always been a passion of mine.

01:12:54.440 --> 01:12:56.440
I worked in it for a long time.

01:12:56.440 --> 01:13:01.440
I worked as an engineer doing concerts and events.

01:13:01.440 --> 01:13:03.440
I've been around, I know tech.

01:13:03.440 --> 01:13:05.440
Anyway, I digress.

01:13:05.440 --> 01:13:08.440
We can learn about from these films that we watch.

01:13:08.440 --> 01:13:12.440
They often show us ideas and themes that give us insight on the world around us

01:13:12.440 --> 01:13:16.440
from love and loss and working through that and technology

01:13:16.440 --> 01:13:20.440
and the dangers of not fully understanding its reach.

01:13:20.440 --> 01:13:26.440
In Minority Report, starring Tom Cruise, everybody's favorite, 2002.

01:13:26.440 --> 01:13:30.440
People live in a world where they're always being watched

01:13:30.440 --> 01:13:33.440
and crime is reported before can even happen.

01:13:33.440 --> 01:13:36.440
It's far fetched, it's dramatic, it makes the movie good.

01:13:36.440 --> 01:13:39.440
But a lot of this is coming real today.

01:13:40.440 --> 01:13:45.440
The clairvoyance of the tech, obviously, is not real

01:13:45.440 --> 01:13:51.440
and the dramatic fight scenes just make the movie exciting, but it makes a good film.

01:13:51.440 --> 01:13:55.440
The theme and the background of the film remains.

01:13:55.440 --> 01:14:00.440
It warns of the dangers of surveillance and the invasion of privacy

01:14:00.440 --> 01:14:03.440
with the idea that anybody can be a potential threat.

01:14:03.440 --> 01:14:07.440
Even you, especially you, everyone of you.

01:14:07.440 --> 01:14:10.440
Especially as people who work in government.

01:14:10.440 --> 01:14:12.440
Where am I going with this?

01:14:12.440 --> 01:14:15.440
Well, look at the tech they use.

01:14:15.440 --> 01:14:19.440
Facial recognition, data tracking, phone tracking,

01:14:19.440 --> 01:14:21.440
cameras everywhere.

01:14:21.440 --> 01:14:24.440
Does that sound familiar?

01:14:24.440 --> 01:14:26.440
It should.

01:14:26.440 --> 01:14:29.440
You carry everything with that in your pocket.

01:14:29.440 --> 01:14:34.440
Your entire life, recorded, watched, building a case against you

01:14:34.440 --> 01:14:36.440
whether you like it or not.

01:14:36.440 --> 01:14:38.440
What supports this?

01:14:38.440 --> 01:14:43.440
How do you manage this much data?

01:14:43.440 --> 01:14:45.440
Data centers.

01:14:45.440 --> 01:14:46.440
It's easy.

01:14:46.440 --> 01:14:50.440
But we've had data centers since, what, 70s, 80s

01:14:50.440 --> 01:14:55.440
to manage the internet and work it?

01:14:55.440 --> 01:14:58.440
The tech only grows from here.

01:14:58.440 --> 01:15:01.440
AI has made leaps in only months.

01:15:01.440 --> 01:15:05.440
You cannot imagine where it will be in a year,

01:15:05.440 --> 01:15:08.440
five years or ten years from now.

01:15:08.440 --> 01:15:14.440
In 2002, they guessed so much of the surveillance tech.

01:15:14.440 --> 01:15:19.440
Even earlier than that in movies that,

01:15:19.440 --> 01:15:22.440
can't think of it on top of my head, but I'll go on.

01:15:22.440 --> 01:15:23.440
You have 30 seconds.

01:15:23.440 --> 01:15:24.440
Thank you.

01:15:24.440 --> 01:15:28.440
These hyperscale data centers, whether you agree with it or not,

01:15:28.440 --> 01:15:32.440
will be supporting the mass surveillance state.

01:15:32.440 --> 01:15:35.440
Flock cameras are a huge part of that.

01:15:35.440 --> 01:15:38.440
And you know exactly where this is going,

01:15:38.440 --> 01:15:41.440
tracking every single license plate in and out of the state

01:15:41.440 --> 01:15:43.440
where you're going to every doctor's appointment,

01:15:43.440 --> 01:15:46.440
to every store, everything.

01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:49.440
And your legacy supports it.

01:15:49.440 --> 01:15:53.440
Every line crossed that you allow with these data centers

01:15:53.440 --> 01:15:56.440
that big tech is partnering with governments to do

01:15:56.440 --> 01:15:58.440
will be your legacy.

01:15:58.440 --> 01:16:02.440
Congratulations.

01:16:02.440 --> 01:16:09.440
Thank you.

01:16:09.440 --> 01:16:10.440
Thank you.

01:16:10.440 --> 01:16:11.440
Please continue.

01:16:11.440 --> 01:16:14.440
B, communications, petitions, reports of departments.

01:16:14.440 --> 01:16:16.440
B, one approval of the following applications.

01:16:16.440 --> 01:16:17.440
A, 16 operators licenses.

01:16:17.440 --> 01:16:22.440
B, three special class B beer and or special class B wine licenses.

01:16:22.440 --> 01:16:25.440
Gentlemen from 10th.

01:16:25.440 --> 01:16:26.440
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

01:16:26.440 --> 01:16:29.440
I make a motion to concur the recommendation of license

01:16:29.440 --> 01:16:32.440
permit to approve B, one.

01:16:32.440 --> 01:16:34.440
Any laptops, sir?

01:16:34.440 --> 01:16:37.440
I thought I hit it.

01:16:37.440 --> 01:16:40.440
Moved and seconded to approve item B, one.

01:16:40.440 --> 01:16:41.440
Any discussion?

01:16:41.440 --> 01:16:42.440
Seeing none.

01:16:42.440 --> 01:16:43.440
All those in favor say aye.

01:16:43.440 --> 01:16:44.440
Aye.

01:16:44.440 --> 01:16:45.440
Any opposed?

01:16:45.440 --> 01:16:46.440
Motion carries.

01:16:46.440 --> 01:16:48.440
B, two conditional use permit for a tattoo establishment

01:16:48.440 --> 01:16:54.440
located at 4400 Sheridan Road.

01:16:55.440 --> 01:16:57.440
Gentlemen from the third.

01:16:57.440 --> 01:16:58.440
Thank you.

01:16:58.440 --> 01:17:01.440
I move to approve B, two in concurrence with the City

01:17:01.440 --> 01:17:04.440
Plan Commission.

01:17:04.440 --> 01:17:07.440
It's been moved and seconded to concur an item B, two.

01:17:07.440 --> 01:17:09.440
At this time, open up to a public hearing.

01:17:09.440 --> 01:17:11.440
Anyone here speaking item B, two?

01:17:11.440 --> 01:17:12.440
Please come forward.

01:17:12.440 --> 01:17:14.440
State your name and address.

01:17:14.440 --> 01:17:18.440
Mitch Braver, 1802 28th street.

01:17:18.440 --> 01:17:19.440
Kenosha, Wisconsin.

01:17:19.440 --> 01:17:20.440
Yeah.

01:17:20.440 --> 01:17:21.440
What am I doing?

01:17:21.440 --> 01:17:23.440
Sorry about that.

01:17:24.440 --> 01:17:25.440
Yeah.

01:17:25.440 --> 01:17:28.440
I'm here for any questions.

01:17:28.440 --> 01:17:29.440
Yep.

01:17:29.440 --> 01:17:30.440
Okay.

01:17:30.440 --> 01:17:33.440
If there are any questions from the council, we'll call you back up.

01:17:33.440 --> 01:17:34.440
Absolutely.

01:17:34.440 --> 01:17:35.440
Thank you so much.

01:17:35.440 --> 01:17:36.440
Thank you, sir.

01:17:36.440 --> 01:17:38.440
Anyone else here to speak an item B, two?

01:17:38.440 --> 01:17:39.440
Anyone else?

01:17:39.440 --> 01:17:40.440
Anyone else?

01:17:40.440 --> 01:17:41.440
Seeing none.

01:17:41.440 --> 01:17:42.440
Coals of public hearing.

01:17:42.440 --> 01:17:45.440
Motion on the floor is concurrence on item B, two.

01:17:45.440 --> 01:17:47.440
Any discussion?

01:17:47.440 --> 01:17:48.440
Seeing none.

01:17:48.440 --> 01:17:49.440
All those in favor say aye.

01:17:49.440 --> 01:17:50.440
Aye.

01:17:50.440 --> 01:17:51.440
Any opposed?

01:17:51.440 --> 01:17:52.440
Motion carries.

01:17:53.440 --> 01:17:58.440
Item B, two, three.

01:17:58.440 --> 01:18:05.440
Item B, two, three.

01:18:05.440 --> 01:18:10.440
General use permit amendment for a tattoo and body piercing

01:18:10.440 --> 01:18:19.440
establishment located at 7611 purging Boulevard.

01:18:19.440 --> 01:18:24.440
and address forty nine twenty five sixty eight street

01:18:24.440 --> 01:18:31.000
basically my wife and I we've owned this property seventy six eleven Persian

01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:36.440
Boulevard for Jamie Waldron operates her gypsy camp gem girls I'm here to

01:18:36.440 --> 01:18:41.200
today discuss the recommendation that was made for removing a portion of the

01:18:41.200 --> 01:18:46.280
parking lot and planter boxes and install some planter boxes I attended

01:18:46.280 --> 01:18:51.480
Planning Commission or actually Common Council both times with her and we had

01:18:51.480 --> 01:18:56.400
spoken to a representative and we were told it was a recommendation he had

01:18:56.400 --> 01:19:00.440
advised us that we don't bring it up unless we needed to based on that

01:19:00.440 --> 01:19:05.760
guidance we didn't step forward with anything when it came to Jamie getting

01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:09.880
her occupancy approval however we were informed that she could not open our

01:19:09.880 --> 01:19:13.440
business unless the escrow amount and additional five hundred dollar temporary

01:19:13.480 --> 01:19:20.400
occupancy was paid so we helped comply with that we had if we had been

01:19:20.400 --> 01:19:25.400
presented with this as a requirement instead of a recommendation we would have

01:19:25.400 --> 01:19:30.360
addressed these immediately so I apologize on that piece of it since

01:19:30.360 --> 01:19:33.560
purchasing the property we have made significant improvements to enhance

01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:37.680
both the appearance and functionality the building has been painted new

01:19:37.680 --> 01:19:41.840
shutters installed decorative window of planters and the parking lot has been

01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:45.080
recoded we have also made other improvements that comply with city

01:19:45.080 --> 01:19:49.160
requirements including lowering the sign turning it away from being over the

01:19:49.160 --> 01:19:54.680
sidewalks we've invested considerable considerable amount of time and money in

01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:58.720
improving the property and we believe those efforts demonstrate our commitment

01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:03.480
to maintaining and extract an attractive well-kept business we're

01:20:03.480 --> 01:20:08.360
respectfully requesting that an acceptance that would allow us to leave

01:20:08.400 --> 01:20:13.480
the remaining leave the parking lot as it is the parking lot already has very

01:20:13.480 --> 01:20:18.240
limited and extremely tight maneuvering spaces removing pavement to install

01:20:18.240 --> 01:20:24.040
planter boxes and landscaping features would create several concerns first it

01:20:24.040 --> 01:20:28.760
would present a first safety issue raised planters or similar permanent

01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:32.160
structures would create a tripping hazards when customers step out of the

01:20:32.160 --> 01:20:37.040
vehicles second because of the tight parking configuration any planters or

01:20:37.040 --> 01:20:41.280
landscaping features would likely be struck by a vehicle on a regular basis

01:20:41.280 --> 01:20:45.640
continuing continuing causing continual damage and maintenance issues while we

01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:50.680
understand the city's goal is to approve the appearance of the property we believe

01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:54.720
we've already accomplished this objective objective through an extensive

01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:59.480
exterior improvements that we have made third as shown in the photographs I did

01:20:59.480 --> 01:21:05.240
bring some if anybody wanted them or wanted to pass them out

01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:13.400
the photographs shows vehicles already require multiple back and forth

01:21:13.400 --> 01:21:18.160
movements just to exit the parking space adding a permanent obstruction would

01:21:18.160 --> 01:21:23.720
significantly reduce the maneuverability and caught and could make some parking

01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:30.160
spaces impractable or unusable for customers finally snow removal would

01:21:30.160 --> 01:21:34.880
become extremely difficult because of the limited space plowing the parking lot

01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:38.720
is already a challenge installing permanent landscaping within the

01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:42.080
parking area would create additional obstacles and increase the likelihood

01:21:42.080 --> 01:21:46.920
of property damage during winter maintenance in closing I respectfully

01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:51.760
ask the Commission to consider these facts when making the decision we

01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:58.360
requested is a we request is reasonably given the limited parking lot size the

01:21:58.360 --> 01:22:03.000
existing maneuverability constraints this the substantial improvements we have

01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:07.120
already made to the property and the fact that we relied on understanding that it

01:22:07.120 --> 01:22:11.360
was a recommendation versus a rent mandatory requirement thank you and if

01:22:11.360 --> 01:22:16.520
you have any questions I'm here to answer thank you sir anyone else on item B3

01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:21.280
from the public anyone else anyone else seeing none closed the public hearing

01:22:21.280 --> 01:22:30.880
Mr. Casey sir if I'm not mistaken that that condition was removed at City

01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:35.320
Planning Commission correct I was not at that meeting mayor but in looking at the

01:22:35.320 --> 01:22:40.880
report yes okay condition duty the conditions approved require to remove

01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:44.360
the asphalt in the striped area around the existing sign and replacing it with

01:22:44.400 --> 01:22:53.120
Mulcher stone and the recommendation was to remove that condition right so I guess

01:22:53.120 --> 01:22:59.000
it further the applicant and for for Council at City Plan Commission City

01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:05.560
Plan Commission agreed with the owner or the applicant here to remove that and I

01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:12.520
would I would ask the council to I would assume that the arm of the 16th

01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:17.440
understood that he was there and actually voted for that but that was I'm assuming

01:23:17.440 --> 01:23:21.640
that was part of your meant to be for your motion so that condition that this

01:23:21.640 --> 01:23:25.480
gentleman was asking for relief was already granted via City Plan Commission

01:23:25.480 --> 01:23:29.520
I we do need this body to uphold that and I would ask this council to do that

01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:32.600
because that is what we did at City Plan Commission and agree with the applicant

01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:34.560
correct thank you sir

01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:42.000
gentleman from a third thank you Ron I was going to make some of the same

01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:50.160
points you just did basically by approving this we are approving what this

01:23:50.160 --> 01:23:55.240
gentleman also requested because the condition that he objected to was removed

01:23:55.240 --> 01:24:01.960
at the City Plan Commission meeting the reasons were pretty obvious he did a lot

01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:08.520
of work there and at the same time as your honor is pointed out although that

01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:14.120
we try to make things when we have new developments etc we try to keep

01:24:14.120 --> 01:24:19.600
everything to a certain standard it would not been fair in this situation a lot of

01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:26.080
older places have parking lots and this parking lot would have been really

01:24:26.080 --> 01:24:31.320
hazardous if they totally complied with this with the conditions that were were

01:24:31.360 --> 01:24:36.440
proposed thus the City Plan Commission agreed to remove those conditions and

01:24:36.440 --> 01:24:42.800
thus when you vote for B3 and if you vote in the affirmative you are voting to

01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:47.880
basically give this gentleman what he wants as well relief from that condition

01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:53.920
thank you thank you sir lady from the eighth yeah I'll make this just short and

01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:57.800
sweet as elder person of the district I thank the City Plan Commission for

01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:03.480
voting for this and I'm full in full support thank you ma'am anyone else on

01:25:03.480 --> 01:25:09.440
B3 if not motion on the floor is approval vitamin B3 as recommended by City

01:25:09.440 --> 01:25:15.600
Plan Commission correct all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion

01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:19.040
carries see recommendations from the committee on licenses impermit see one

01:25:19.040 --> 01:25:23.440
application on Michaela wire for a new operator's license

01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:27.200
gentlemen from intent thank you mr. Mayor make a motion to concur with the

01:25:27.200 --> 01:25:34.240
recommendation license permit any additional ones mr. Chairman not yet sir

01:25:34.240 --> 01:25:40.520
all right so okay at this time open up to a hearing anyone here speaking

01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:44.560
item C1 please come forward state your name and address anyone here to speak

01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:49.080
anyone here speak seeing none close the hearing motion on the floor is

01:25:49.120 --> 01:25:53.640
concurrence it's a license permit any discussion seeing none all those in

01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:58.440
favor say aye any opposed motion carries see to application of Brandon per

01:25:58.440 --> 01:26:02.640
domo for a new operators license gentlemen from the 10th thank you mr.

01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:06.160
Mayor make a motion to deny based on material police records safely related

01:26:06.160 --> 01:26:08.720
to the license

01:26:09.360 --> 01:26:13.400
we've been seconded to would that be to concur with license permit

01:26:13.400 --> 01:26:17.600
recommendations sir yes sir okay at this time open up to a hearing

01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:21.080
and we hear speaking item C2 please come forward say to your name and

01:26:21.080 --> 01:26:23.400
address

01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:35.880
well I'm sorry I'm sorry one second I'm sorry good okay my name is Francis

01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:45.880
flex 2831 14 lane Kenosha I am Brandon's mom sorry he just went to the

01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:55.800
bedroom I would like to speak for him if I can sure sure nobody knows better

01:26:55.800 --> 01:27:04.200
than me the struggles the bad that's bad decisions choices he made but nobody

01:27:04.200 --> 01:27:11.920
knows better than me the progress and how proud I am right now to see the better

01:27:12.280 --> 01:27:20.920
decisions and the improvement I'm talking about you I just don't want to let this

01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:31.840
pass so I am very very confident that he deserve to get the license so he can

01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:36.400
keep working in something he's good at it thank you man Brandon can we get your

01:27:36.400 --> 01:27:41.240
name and address for the record yeah Brandon per domo 2831 14th lane Kenosha

01:27:41.280 --> 01:27:46.200
Wisconsin I want to start by saying I wasn't here last Monday when I was

01:27:46.200 --> 01:27:49.080
supposed to be because I was at work I got out late so I didn't really get to

01:27:49.080 --> 01:27:54.600
speak or anything so start by just kind of saying I know at a glance looking at

01:27:54.600 --> 01:28:00.680
it looks kind of bad looks pretty bad I'm aware of that I am I'm aware of the

01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:06.440
mistakes I've made and it's not any excuses or anything but at least some

01:28:06.440 --> 01:28:13.080
context to kind of what happened when I was 21 my girlfriend passed away and I

01:28:13.080 --> 01:28:18.560
got very very depressed and very lots of issues with addiction and lots of other

01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:22.960
things and it took a long time I didn't want to get better honestly and if you

01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:28.760
look at the record that's from 2022 to 24 was everything happened and that was

01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:34.400
during the time where I didn't want to be here I didn't want to be alive and you

01:28:34.400 --> 01:28:37.960
know I started working as I've worked in restaurants my whole life I start

01:28:37.960 --> 01:28:43.080
working as a bartender supervised and kind of helped me get sober and I mean I

01:28:43.080 --> 01:28:49.320
have a lot of supporting documents here from my clinic where I've been sober for

01:28:49.320 --> 01:28:55.560
almost two years it'll be two years in December I even have the diagnosis from

01:28:55.560 --> 01:29:00.840
my therapist and my psychiatrist stating that it was mostly a situational kind of

01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:05.800
problem that was going on due to what had happened and I even have discharge

01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:10.360
papers showing like my risk level and everything at the time I got discharged

01:29:10.360 --> 01:29:14.800
that was two years ago that was in December 2024 I mean since then I've

01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:19.560
been working I have my associates degree in audio science and engineering and you

01:29:19.560 --> 01:29:23.440
know it's hard because every time you try to move forward you're reminded of

01:29:23.440 --> 01:29:28.120
the mistakes you made it's hard because it's like a wall every single time every

01:29:28.160 --> 01:29:33.280
turn I take to laughter to the right to try to go forward something trying to

01:29:33.280 --> 01:29:36.640
stop me at least that sort of feels like and I know those are my own mistakes but

01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:40.440
it's hard when you're trying to do better and trying to do the thing you like

01:29:40.440 --> 01:29:44.480
because it's been really hard to find something I like and I feel like I am

01:29:44.480 --> 01:29:47.360
good at it I even have letters of recommendations in here I don't know if

01:29:47.360 --> 01:29:53.640
anyone wants to look at all this but yeah I mean I don't really have too much

01:29:53.640 --> 01:29:56.480
else to say besides that I guess other than thank you guys for your time

01:29:56.480 --> 01:30:04.720
consideration and I understand either way thank you sir any anyone else on

01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:12.080
item C2 anyone else anyone else if not closer hearing a gentleman from the

01:30:12.080 --> 01:30:24.200
16th or okay yes I'm I share that committee the applicant came in after the

01:30:24.200 --> 01:30:31.160
vote was taken he had a work it wasn't his fault but we we had voted on it

01:30:31.160 --> 01:30:33.360
already to deny

01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:39.760
granted there's 400 points but every applicant deserves a right to a hearing

01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:47.720
so I like to this to be deferred put back into the committee so he can get

01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:53.640
committees that I make a motion to send back to committee yes been moved and

01:30:53.640 --> 01:31:00.200
seconded to send this back to license permit on that motion to send back to

01:31:00.200 --> 01:31:06.400
committee all those in favor say aye any post motion carries this will be at the

01:31:06.400 --> 01:31:10.580
following a license permit me

01:31:11.460 --> 01:31:17.700
C3 application of Nakia Brookshire for a yearly peddler stand located at 28 2014

01:31:17.700 --> 01:31:20.500
Babynae with no adverse recommendations from the police department

01:31:20.500 --> 01:31:28.580
gentlemen from the 10th thank you Mr. Mayor I make a motion to approve C3 C4 C5

01:31:28.580 --> 01:31:37.340
C6 after being read any necessary applicant hearings through C5

01:31:41.100 --> 01:31:46.260
C4 application of auto express services AES auto and towing LLC for a new towing

01:31:46.260 --> 01:31:51.060
service license located at 6432nd Avenue with an adverse recommendation from

01:31:51.060 --> 01:31:55.380
the police department C5 applications for a temporary outdoor extension of the

01:31:55.380 --> 01:31:58.500
class B beer class B liquor license with no adverse recommendations from the

01:31:58.500 --> 01:32:03.220
police department a Bendelli's adventure Inc located at 4601 7th Avenue on

01:32:03.220 --> 01:32:09.860
September 18th through 19th 2026 B bottoms up ventures Inc located at 1402 52nd

01:32:09.860 --> 01:32:16.180
Street on August 21st through 23rd 2026 C Kenosha creative space Inc located

01:32:16.180 --> 01:32:22.860
at 624 57th Street on August 21st through 23rd 2026 with a waiver request of

01:32:22.860 --> 01:32:31.260
10.0 75 D3 by the common council under 10.0 75 I okay at this time open up to a

01:32:31.260 --> 01:32:36.860
hearing anyone here speak and I am C3 4 or 5 please come forward state your

01:32:36.860 --> 01:32:42.420
name and address anyone here to speak anyone here to speak

01:32:45.340 --> 01:32:51.620
Hello Brian Johnson for C4 2832 14th Lane I'm the owner of EAS sewing I'm

01:32:51.620 --> 01:32:58.540
here for any questions if there are any questions thank you sir

01:32:58.540 --> 01:33:05.540
anyone else on C3 4 5 anyone else anyone else seeing none closing hearing

01:33:05.540 --> 01:33:13.060
motion on the floor is concurrence is that correct mr. Chair any discussion

01:33:13.060 --> 01:33:19.100
seeing none all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion carries C6

01:33:19.100 --> 01:33:23.940
application of salon Diamante LLC for a new class B beer reserved class B liquor

01:33:23.940 --> 01:33:28.940
license located at 6712 30th Avenue upon surrender of a class B beer class C

01:33:28.940 --> 01:33:33.260
liquor license from salon Diamante LLC with no adverse recommendations from

01:33:33.260 --> 01:33:37.180
the police department gentlemen from the 10th thank you mr. Mayor I make a

01:33:37.180 --> 01:33:45.100
motion to approve and in that motion is the waving of the main entrance 300

01:33:45.100 --> 01:33:51.900
foot waiver okay at this I'm open up to a hearing anyone here speaking item C6

01:33:51.900 --> 01:33:55.940
please come forward say your name and address

01:33:55.940 --> 01:34:03.700
Alvar Rodriguez my address is 1721 50th string Kenosha

01:34:05.620 --> 01:34:09.740
the floor is yours ma'am if anything you'd like to say to the council on this

01:34:09.740 --> 01:34:20.500
on this item well I'm applying for the liquor because the parties of weddings

01:34:20.500 --> 01:34:29.060
and baby showers sometimes they wanna drink and that's why since they changed

01:34:29.060 --> 01:34:40.660
the rules of the house well I got a feeling there's gonna be some questions

01:34:40.660 --> 01:34:44.740
from the council so if you want to have a seat if you don't have anything else

01:34:44.740 --> 01:34:50.500
to say there may be some questions from council okay thank you ma'am anyone

01:34:50.500 --> 01:34:57.700
else and I'm C6 anyone else anyone else seeing none close to hearing lady from

01:34:57.700 --> 01:35:04.260
the 12th in the meeting committee meeting I voted against this because my concern

01:35:04.260 --> 01:35:10.700
was the exit of people if there was a fire and while I understand that the

01:35:10.700 --> 01:35:16.860
order from the 8th district has shown me pictures where they have two exits but

01:35:16.860 --> 01:35:21.820
then they also have a lift there and then but that still doesn't ease my concern

01:35:21.820 --> 01:35:25.820
because if there's a fire and there's I'm not even sure what the occupancy is

01:35:25.820 --> 01:35:29.420
but then if there's people in there that need to get out and they're using the

01:35:29.420 --> 01:35:39.140
lift that brings even more concern so my my vote will still be a no thank you

01:35:41.620 --> 01:35:48.860
lady from the 8th thank you I have the chance to meet with Miss Rodriguez last

01:35:48.860 --> 01:35:54.900
week who owns the building which is the former St. Luke's Lutheran Church she

01:35:54.900 --> 01:35:59.420
rents out the sanctuary to a congregation and it's part of their rental

01:35:59.420 --> 01:36:03.380
agreement that the hall will not be rented while the congregation holds

01:36:03.380 --> 01:36:09.700
church services and other activities the rental hall does have multiple exits on

01:36:10.140 --> 01:36:15.180
opposite ends of the space it's on the lower level of the old Sunday school

01:36:15.180 --> 01:36:21.540
space which I would describe as a split level not a basement the space has a

01:36:21.540 --> 01:36:27.380
wall of windows above ground on both the east and the west side Mr. Rodriguez is

01:36:27.380 --> 01:36:32.940
also purchased the parking lot and a house across 30th Avenue and a lot east

01:36:32.940 --> 01:36:38.500
of the building on 67th Street the property is well maintained she's

01:36:38.540 --> 01:36:44.460
received numerous appreciative comments from her neighbors and her request for

01:36:44.460 --> 01:36:50.340
this license all stems from a change in state law she has come before us many

01:36:50.340 --> 01:36:56.580
of times attempting to acquire the proper licenses to continue to operate

01:36:56.580 --> 01:37:01.900
her business and I'm asking for your support of Miss Rodriguez and the

01:37:01.900 --> 01:37:10.540
issuance of this license thank you gentlemen from a 16th yeah a couple of

01:37:10.540 --> 01:37:16.020
things when in front of the committee it was tied to two so that should have

01:37:16.020 --> 01:37:21.260
been under she tonight as a denial right if it's a tie it should be a

01:37:21.260 --> 01:37:29.380
denial it says we approved that it was a tie so a tie is a denial I got a

01:37:29.380 --> 01:37:37.700
question for madam clerk yeah as was stated at the meeting it's a no

01:37:37.700 --> 01:37:43.540
recommendation from the council now the the motion was to approve that motion

01:37:43.540 --> 01:37:49.340
failed right now it's a effectively a no recommendation from the license permit

01:37:49.340 --> 01:37:55.060
committee but yeah it says license LP approved that was the motion that was

01:37:55.100 --> 01:38:06.540
made yes sir I got you okay madam clerk the reserve can you shine light for the

01:38:06.540 --> 01:38:12.620
rest of our council about the reserve license how much it costs how many are

01:38:12.620 --> 01:38:24.700
available so on and so forth so we have a total of 39 reserve licenses which can

01:38:24.700 --> 01:38:30.060
be issued after we've reached our quota on regular class be liquor licenses which

01:38:30.060 --> 01:38:36.700
we have and we have currently issued seven so we have 32 remaining and the

01:38:36.700 --> 01:38:48.300
issuance fee is ten thousand dollars thank you yeah I voted I voted no and I'm

01:38:48.300 --> 01:39:00.140
gonna vote no also tonight it's an old church building this party venue is

01:39:00.140 --> 01:39:05.660
certainly not on the first floor some people call it the basement some people

01:39:05.660 --> 01:39:14.180
call it different things but it's I call it the basement because it's not on the

01:39:14.340 --> 01:39:19.980
floor there's a church in a school this is in the basement of the old school

01:39:19.980 --> 01:39:26.420
part of the of the establishment the applicants willing to spend ten thousand

01:39:26.420 --> 01:39:32.740
dollars this is a venue situation it's not it's not a tavern it's a venue they

01:39:32.740 --> 01:39:38.580
have venues marriage wedding so on and so forth so I held there but I know

01:39:38.580 --> 01:39:44.900
she's willing to spend ten thousand dollars for this license but the situation

01:39:44.900 --> 01:39:51.860
and the location of it and the layout of it that's one of the reasons that that

01:39:51.860 --> 01:39:58.300
I'm not I'm not for it so I won't be supported in it tonight thank you thank

01:39:58.300 --> 01:40:03.580
you sir gentlemen from the first thank you based on the comments from the lady

01:40:03.900 --> 01:40:10.500
from the 12th and also gentlemen the 16th I would assume that there's no

01:40:10.500 --> 01:40:15.300
holds right based on this lifestyle subject to hold so do we have from an

01:40:15.300 --> 01:40:21.420
emergency egress standpoint do we have chief here who can speak that I would

01:40:21.420 --> 01:40:26.460
assume that if it's not conformed from the standpoint of emergency egress and

01:40:26.460 --> 01:40:31.580
other code compliance things associated with the activity then I guess we'd have

01:40:31.580 --> 01:40:35.500
a story here but I would think I would think we don't

01:40:35.500 --> 01:40:40.940
the story is that in the lady from the 12th opinion is that she's not

01:40:40.940 --> 01:40:46.380
comfortable with the egress I don't know if I'm stating that correctly man I hope

01:40:46.380 --> 01:40:51.340
we understand that we have inspection and rules in place for for things like

01:40:51.340 --> 01:40:56.300
emergency egress from everything from our own people to NFPA standard so I guess

01:40:56.300 --> 01:40:59.700
I'm curious more than there's more to the story than that I guess I'd be

01:40:59.740 --> 01:41:03.580
willing to listen but it as long as our code compliant and conforming for the

01:41:03.580 --> 01:41:09.060
license activity I can't see your reason that that would be something to

01:41:09.060 --> 01:41:12.860
consider thank you or the motion on the floor is to approve at this point sir

01:41:12.860 --> 01:41:16.180
thank you thank you for

01:41:16.180 --> 01:41:23.220
gentlemen from a second oh yes I was one of the two votes to vote to approve I

01:41:23.740 --> 01:41:29.340
would urge the rest of the council to do the same I asked that question if the

01:41:29.340 --> 01:41:35.060
fire department had had a look around and they had no issues with with her

01:41:35.060 --> 01:41:43.940
business model so I'm satisfied that it's not a public safety hazard and once

01:41:43.940 --> 01:41:50.020
again this this is a it's a it's a business model that we're not that

01:41:50.100 --> 01:41:54.100
familiar with because previously they weren't required to be licensed through

01:41:54.100 --> 01:41:58.020
the state but the change in liquor law says if you're going to host any sort of

01:41:58.020 --> 01:42:02.940
party you have to have a liquor license she feels strongly enough in her

01:42:02.940 --> 01:42:08.660
business plan to spend that ten thousand dollars and this is a way for her to be

01:42:08.660 --> 01:42:14.900
legitimate because there's probably some operators aren't there we haven't been

01:42:14.940 --> 01:42:21.300
notified maybe they're maybe they're operating out of the light of proper

01:42:21.300 --> 01:42:28.100
licensure but we're trying to encourage responsible licensure in this town and

01:42:28.100 --> 01:42:32.820
she's making the effort to do so I'd much rather face this sort of a situation

01:42:32.820 --> 01:42:39.020
than a scofflaw of some sort she's patiently been pretending meetings for

01:42:39.100 --> 01:42:46.580
about two months this council and licensed in permits looking for a way to stay

01:42:46.580 --> 01:42:51.460
in business and I can graduate later for that I know it's a church building but

01:42:51.460 --> 01:42:56.660
she owns the building she rents it out to a church and if she was to hold a

01:42:56.660 --> 01:43:03.100
party in violation of her of her own tenant agreement well she's just not

01:43:03.100 --> 01:43:09.820
going to do that so I urge the council to support this application I support

01:43:09.820 --> 01:43:15.820
the motion thank you thank you sir seeing no other lights motion on the

01:43:15.820 --> 01:43:22.420
floor is approval of item c6 with the waiver of the 300 feet correct Mr.

01:43:22.420 --> 01:43:32.060
Chairman Mr. Chairman thank you sir roll calls been asked for roll call please

01:43:32.060 --> 01:43:49.420
motion carries 15 to 2 item c7 applications of the coffee pot LLC located

01:43:49.420 --> 01:43:52.780
at 4914 7th Avenue with no adverse recommendations from the police

01:43:52.780 --> 01:43:58.620
department a new class B beer class C liquor license B probationary cabaret

01:43:58.620 --> 01:44:03.980
license C permanent outdoor extension gentlemen from the 10th thank you Mr.

01:44:03.980 --> 01:44:08.180
I make a motion to approve C7 C8 after being read any necessary applicant

01:44:08.180 --> 01:44:14.580
hearings C8 application of order what you want LLC for an outdoor dining area

01:44:14.580 --> 01:44:18.780
with extension of the class B beer class B liquor license located at 508 58th

01:44:18.780 --> 01:44:22.620
Street with no adverse recommendations from the police department okay at the

01:44:22.620 --> 01:44:27.180
time open up to a hearing anyone here speaking item C7 or C8 please come

01:44:27.180 --> 01:44:35.420
forward state your name and address anyone here speak any one yes Pablo

01:44:35.420 --> 01:44:40.900
and Diana Scribano 2005 35th place regarding C8 we're just here for any

01:44:40.900 --> 01:44:48.300
questions thank you sir anyone else on C7 or C8 anyone else anyone else seeing

01:44:48.300 --> 01:44:53.980
none close in hearing motion on the floor is approval of C7 and C8 any

01:44:53.980 --> 01:44:58.820
discussion seeing none all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion

01:44:58.820 --> 01:45:04.660
carries e ordinances first reading e1 ordinance by the committee on public

01:45:04.660 --> 01:45:08.500
safety and welfare to amend section 7.125 of the code of general ordinances

01:45:08.500 --> 01:45:17.540
entitled streets controlled by you actually did we vote on it they vote on C8 we

01:45:17.540 --> 01:45:21.740
didn't both thank you all right e1 ordinance by the committee on public

01:45:21.740 --> 01:45:25.540
safety and welfare to amend section 7.125 of the code of general ordinances

01:45:25.540 --> 01:45:29.660
entitled streets controlled by yield signs by rescinding there from the

01:45:29.660 --> 01:45:33.820
yield signs on 54th Avenue at its intersection with 41st Street and to

01:45:33.820 --> 01:45:38.860
include Easton Westbound yield signs on 41st Street and 54th Avenue jump from

01:45:38.860 --> 01:45:48.900
5th motion to send e1 e2 and e3 about F1 and F1 e2 ordinance by the

01:45:48.900 --> 01:45:52.580
committee on public safety and welfare to amend section 7.12 C of the code of

01:45:52.580 --> 01:45:57.380
general ordinances entitled stop streets to include a cell phone stop at the

01:45:57.380 --> 01:46:03.500
intersection of 25th Avenue and 55th Street e3 ordinance by the committee on

01:46:03.500 --> 01:46:07.340
public safety and welfare to amend section 7.12 C of the code of general

01:46:07.340 --> 01:46:11.160
ordinances entitled stop streets by adding Easton West stop signs at 40th

01:46:11.160 --> 01:46:15.060
Street and 32nd Avenue F zoning ordinances first reading F1

01:46:15.060 --> 01:46:18.180
rezoning ordinance by the City Planning Commission to rezone the property at

01:46:18.180 --> 01:46:23.420
3719 25th Street from a to agricultural and holding district RS1 single family

01:46:23.420 --> 01:46:29.860
residential district okay motion and bless you to send e1 through F1 on

01:46:29.860 --> 01:46:34.180
their way any discussion seeing none all those have ever say aye aye any opposed

01:46:34.180 --> 01:46:39.900
motion carries g orness is second reading g1 ordinance by the mayor to

01:46:39.900 --> 01:46:43.300
repeal and recreate sub paragraph 1.01 d1 e regarding the 5th

01:46:43.340 --> 01:46:45.780
aldermanic district for the purpose of adding Ward 102

01:46:47.860 --> 01:46:51.060
gentlemen from 13th move to concur with the finance committee

01:46:51.060 --> 01:46:53.300
recommendation to approve g1

01:46:57.300 --> 01:47:00.660
mr chairman sorry about that

01:47:02.940 --> 01:47:07.020
woman seconded to approve item or concur with finance committee

01:47:07.020 --> 01:47:11.740
recommendation g1 at this time open up to a public hearing anyone here to

01:47:11.780 --> 01:47:15.740
speak an item g1 please come forward state your name and address anyone here

01:47:15.740 --> 01:47:19.900
speak anyone here speak seeing none close the public hearing motion on the

01:47:19.900 --> 01:47:24.780
floor is concurrence any discussion seeing none all is the favorable vote aye

01:47:24.780 --> 01:47:26.300
those opposed no rule call please

01:47:26.300 --> 01:47:44.940
motion carries 17 to 0 h zoning ordinance is second reading h1's ordinance by the

01:47:44.940 --> 01:47:48.260
mayor attachment and zoning district classification ordinance under section

01:47:48.260 --> 01:47:52.780
66.0307 Wisconsin statutes city of Kenosha town of summer state approved

01:47:52.780 --> 01:47:56.860
cooperative plan 37 19 25th street town of summers

01:47:58.700 --> 01:48:00.860
gentleman from 5th a commotion to approve

01:48:03.580 --> 01:48:09.260
spend moved and seconded to approve item b h1 at the same open up to a public

01:48:09.260 --> 01:48:13.260
hearing anyone here speaking on h1 please come forward state your name and

01:48:13.260 --> 01:48:18.300
address anyone here speak anyone here speak seeing none close the public hearing

01:48:18.380 --> 01:48:22.380
motion on the floor is approval any discussion

01:48:23.100 --> 01:48:24.540
seeing none roll call please

01:48:31.100 --> 01:48:35.260
motion carries 17 to 0 aye resolutions aye one resolutions by the committee on

01:48:35.260 --> 01:48:41.100
finance to levy special charges a trash and debris removal $4,985.33

01:48:41.100 --> 01:48:45.900
be grass and weed cutting $3,700 64 cents see property maintenance

01:48:45.900 --> 01:48:49.100
re-inspection fees $13,152

01:48:49.100 --> 01:48:54.460
t building and zoning re-inspection fees $976 finance recommended to approve 6 to 0

01:48:55.180 --> 01:49:00.620
gentleman front 13th move to approve i1 as recommended by finance committee

01:49:05.660 --> 01:49:10.380
moving and seconded to concur with finance and i1 that's a sample open up to a hearing

01:49:11.100 --> 01:49:14.620
anyone here speaking on i1 please come forward state your name and address

01:49:14.620 --> 01:49:19.580
anyone here speak anyone here speak seeing none close the hearing motion on the floor is

01:49:19.580 --> 01:49:23.100
concurrence any discussion seeing none roll call please

01:49:29.740 --> 01:49:33.900
motion carries 17 to 0 aye two resolution by the committee on public works to order the

01:49:33.900 --> 01:49:37.820
cost of public sidewalk and or driveway approach construction and a replacement

01:49:37.820 --> 01:49:42.940
to be specially assessed to a budding property for project 26-1043 73rd street in

01:49:42.940 --> 01:49:46.700
24-7 and resurfacing public works recommended to approve 6 to 0

01:49:47.660 --> 01:49:54.140
lady from the eighth yes i make a motion to concur with the public works committee to approve i2

01:49:58.140 --> 01:50:03.020
it's been moved and seconded to concur with public works on i2 at this time open up to a public hearing

01:50:03.820 --> 01:50:07.420
anyone here speaking item i2 please come forward state your name and address

01:50:07.420 --> 01:50:12.940
anyone here to speak anyone here speak seeing none close the public hearing motion on the floor

01:50:12.940 --> 01:50:16.860
is concurrence any discussion seeing none roll call please

01:50:16.860 --> 01:50:32.700
all the person on the machia motion carries 17 to 0 i3 resolution by the mayor to amend

01:50:32.700 --> 01:50:38.620
the official map for the city of kenosha bisconsin to include the attachment of 3719 25th street

01:50:39.500 --> 01:50:43.260
in the town of summers kenosha county wisconsin in accordance with the approved city of kenosha

01:50:43.260 --> 01:50:47.820
town of summers co-operative plan under section 66.0307 of the wisconsin statutes

01:50:50.300 --> 01:50:54.460
chairman from fifth i motion to approve please

01:51:01.100 --> 01:51:06.300
it's been moved and seconded to approve item b or i3 at this time open up to a public hearing

01:51:06.940 --> 01:51:10.540
anyone here speaking item i3 please come forward state your name and address

01:51:10.620 --> 01:51:16.060
anyone here to speak anyone here speak seeing none close the public hearing motion on the floor

01:51:16.060 --> 01:51:19.660
is approval any discussion seeing none roll call please

01:51:25.740 --> 01:51:31.660
motion carries 17 to 0 k public construction and improvement contracts k1 a word of contract for

01:51:31.660 --> 01:51:39.420
project 26-1043 73rd street and 21st avenue resurfacing to a w oaks and sun ink in the amount of

01:51:39.420 --> 01:51:45.100
$409,800 public works in stormwater utility recommended to approve six to zero

01:51:49.020 --> 01:51:55.180
sorry lady from the eighth yes i make a motion to concur with the public works committee to

01:51:55.180 --> 01:52:02.140
approve k1 moved and second to concur with public works in k1 any discussion

01:52:02.940 --> 01:52:04.300
seeing none roll call please

01:52:10.540 --> 01:52:16.780
motion carries 17 to 0 l other contracts and agreements l1 combination affidavit to combine

01:52:16.780 --> 01:52:21.020
six city owned parcels located between sixth avenue and seventh avenue and 54th street and

01:52:21.020 --> 01:52:25.180
55th street into one parcel finance recommended to approve six to zero

01:52:25.580 --> 01:52:33.260
gentlemen from 13th thank you mr mayor i'm moved to confer what the finance committee

01:52:33.260 --> 01:52:35.260
recommendation to approve l1

01:52:38.380 --> 01:52:41.740
moved and seconded to approve item l1 any discussion

01:52:42.620 --> 01:52:43.900
seeing none roll call please

01:52:44.620 --> 01:52:59.020
motion carries 17 to 0 l2 construction administrative services agreement by in between the city of

01:52:59.020 --> 01:53:04.140
konosha department of public works and Nielsen madson and barber for authentic black hawk

01:53:04.140 --> 01:53:10.620
ridge public works recommended to approve six to zero lady from the eighth yes i moved to

01:53:11.180 --> 01:53:19.180
concur with the public works committee to approve items l1 l2 i'm sorry l2 and l3 after being read

01:53:21.580 --> 01:53:26.700
l3 first revision state municipal financial agreement for shared and road from 75th street

01:53:26.700 --> 01:53:30.300
to succeed first street public works recommended to approve six to zero

01:53:31.980 --> 01:53:36.300
okay motion and floor is concurrence of public works l2 and l3 any discussion

01:53:37.100 --> 01:53:39.100
seeing none roll call please

01:53:47.980 --> 01:53:57.580
other person for reef motion carries 17 to 0 l4 bjafy 2025 edward burn memorial justice

01:53:58.940 --> 01:54:03.420
assistance grant program intern governmental agreement by in between the city of konosha

01:54:03.420 --> 01:54:08.060
wisconsin and the county of konosha wisconsin finance recommended to approve six to zero

01:54:08.700 --> 01:54:09.740
challenge front thirteenth

01:54:10.860 --> 01:54:17.020
move to uh um concur with the finance committee recommendation to approve l4

01:54:18.860 --> 01:54:21.740
move and second to concur on l4 any discussion

01:54:22.380 --> 01:54:23.740
seeing none roll call please

01:54:24.140 --> 01:54:34.540
motion carries 17 to 0 l5 professional services agreement by in between msa

01:54:34.540 --> 01:54:38.540
professional services ink and the city of konosha from mckinley school site development

01:54:39.180 --> 01:54:42.940
public works and stormwater utility recommended to approve six to zero

01:54:45.820 --> 01:54:52.460
uh oh lady from the eighth yes i moved to concur with the public works committee to

01:54:52.460 --> 01:54:53.500
approve l5

01:54:55.340 --> 01:55:00.060
it's been moving and seconded to approve item l5 any discussion

01:55:01.020 --> 01:55:02.860
seeing none roll call please

01:55:11.260 --> 01:55:16.620
motion carries 17 to 0 m recommendations from the committee on finance m1 request to

01:55:16.620 --> 01:55:21.980
rescind 2025 union park october fest invoice finance recommended to approve four to two

01:55:22.780 --> 01:55:28.780
gentlemen from the thirteenth move to concur to concur with the finance committee recommendation

01:55:28.780 --> 01:55:29.900
to approve m1

01:55:31.900 --> 01:55:36.460
moved and seconded to concur with finance on m1 at this time open up to a hearing

01:55:37.180 --> 01:55:40.940
anyone here speaking on an m1 please come forward state your name and address

01:55:41.740 --> 01:55:49.660
a good evening bendy smith 6703 seventh avenue speaking tonight on behalf of mgv harmonia

01:55:50.300 --> 01:55:52.940
the sponsor of the event thank you

01:55:54.300 --> 01:56:00.140
thank you sir anyone else on item m1 anyone else anyone else seeing none

01:56:01.740 --> 01:56:04.300
close the hearing lady from a 12

01:56:05.180 --> 01:56:11.100
i voted against this um during the committee committee meeting i don't have anything against

01:56:11.100 --> 01:56:18.380
union park i love the fish fries there um but i i voted no against it because of the time that

01:56:18.380 --> 01:56:24.380
it took for this to come back because if it was an oversight i think it should have been done

01:56:24.380 --> 01:56:34.140
way before now i guess if i can help um all the person that's not that's on us again

01:56:34.460 --> 01:56:40.060
from our standpoint and the um process was something we missed until it was brought forward and then

01:56:40.060 --> 01:56:45.580
it was just trying to get it scheduled to come back for to allow the applicant to have a hearing

01:56:46.540 --> 01:56:51.980
but that oversight was on was on our part um and yeah i would have liked to have gotten it back

01:56:51.980 --> 01:56:55.980
here uh several weeks ago there's just some other things that were going on just didn't get a

01:56:55.980 --> 01:56:59.660
chance to do that and wanted to make sure that we gave the applicant an opportunity to

01:56:59.660 --> 01:57:04.220
have their hearing and be able to move forward gentlemen from the 17th

01:57:05.820 --> 01:57:11.260
thank you your honor um i was also a no-vote along with my colleague from the 12th district

01:57:12.220 --> 01:57:19.980
my reasoning was as well it was just too long and when i dug deep into the uh file here

01:57:20.780 --> 01:57:23.580
you know i i mentioned to the financial uh

01:57:24.460 --> 01:57:30.380
um committee that i'm a kind of a fiscal conservative if i run my household like that my

01:57:30.380 --> 01:57:36.540
businesses like that and i look at every dollar and when we see rescind on the petition i looked

01:57:36.540 --> 01:57:45.180
at it a little closer um i looked at the application they submitted says it's for profit and when i

01:57:45.180 --> 01:57:51.980
reached out to the parks department she uh indicated that actually we mischarged them it should have

01:57:52.060 --> 01:57:57.660
been uh one thousand three hundred and ten dollars and so we actually gave them a discount on the bill

01:58:00.220 --> 01:58:05.980
now i looked at the letter as well i talked to laura gogrowski after the meeting the finance

01:58:05.980 --> 01:58:11.900
meeting said some questions she straightened some of them out and a lot of it was involved with

01:58:11.900 --> 01:58:18.060
the sister city while we also have a sister city from italy we also had an italian fest last year

01:58:18.140 --> 01:58:24.140
that uh brought in 20 000 people according to the president of the ia fest

01:58:25.180 --> 01:58:32.140
um they are a 501 3c they paid their application fees they paid their liquor license fees they paid

01:58:32.140 --> 01:58:40.540
for all their fencing um the only thing i'm against is just setting a precedent it listed us as a

01:58:40.540 --> 01:58:46.380
sponsor that's why we actually know it didn't list us as a sponsor the reasoning is we're waving

01:58:46.460 --> 01:58:52.140
this is because we're a sponsor while i looked at the 20 25 list there's 29 sponsored events in

01:58:52.140 --> 01:58:57.820
kenosha that was not listed as one of them it is on the 20 26 list so we're good for this year

01:58:58.460 --> 01:59:04.780
but the problem is from last year i looked at the website kenosha.com co-hosted union part tavern

01:59:04.780 --> 01:59:11.340
and mgv harmonica the vital support from visit kenosha area businesses dedicated sponsors

01:59:12.140 --> 01:59:21.980
doesn't list kenosha city anywhere as a sponsor um this year they've got 22 sponsors listed

01:59:23.260 --> 01:59:26.540
and the last thing i have is the um

01:59:30.620 --> 01:59:36.380
city said it's an oversight i just think there's too many oversights there's an oversight on kenosha.com

01:59:36.380 --> 01:59:44.620
by not listing us as a co-sponsor in 20 25 there was incorrect billing and now 11 months later

01:59:44.620 --> 01:59:50.220
we are looking for a reciting on this so i'm still in no vote again it is nothing new at union

01:59:50.220 --> 01:59:55.180
park it's just setting a precedent moving forward i mean we're gonna have people dig up their

01:59:55.180 --> 01:59:59.180
archives in the last three or four years saying hey you know i think we're a sponsor from the city

01:59:59.180 --> 02:00:04.780
we should rescind this fee and that fee and so that's where i'm standing right now thank you

02:00:05.740 --> 02:00:10.380
thank you sir i guess i would say to the council again anytime i don't care if it's

02:00:11.580 --> 02:00:16.140
six weeks ago or six months ago or six years ago if we identify an error we fix it

02:00:16.780 --> 02:00:21.580
um and that's what we're attempting to do here tonight so again it's up to the council but i would

02:00:21.580 --> 02:00:27.820
again that was it's not on this particular business owner's fault uh it's on the city's fault when

02:00:27.820 --> 02:00:32.700
we're just trying to correct it but ultimately it's up to the council motion on the floor is to

02:00:33.420 --> 02:00:39.740
uh concur with finance which would be to rescind correct okay roll call please

02:00:51.820 --> 02:00:53.500
motion carries 11 to 6

02:00:55.740 --> 02:01:02.300
m2 requests to refund 10 re-inspection fees and the total amount of $3,150 for 4509 30th

02:01:02.300 --> 02:01:05.100
avenue finance recommended to deny six to zero

02:01:05.900 --> 02:01:06.940
tell me from 13th

02:01:08.300 --> 02:01:13.420
thank you uh mr mare i'm moved to concur with the finance committee recommendations

02:01:14.060 --> 02:01:19.420
on m2 m3 m4 m4 and n5 after being read

02:01:22.620 --> 02:01:22.940
second

02:01:26.780 --> 02:01:27.340
m3

02:01:27.900 --> 02:01:28.700
sure after

02:01:29.580 --> 02:01:32.220
yep one second we're just gonna gotta read them off first

02:01:35.260 --> 02:01:40.940
m3 requests to refund one re-inspection fee and the total amount of $72 for 8560 37th avenue

02:01:41.500 --> 02:01:45.900
finance recommended to approve six to zero m4 requests to rescind one re-inspection fee

02:01:45.900 --> 02:01:50.940
and the amount of $72 for 716 51st street finance recommended to approve six to zero

02:01:51.500 --> 02:01:55.580
m5 disbursement record number 14 seven million eight hundred and forty two thousand four hundred

02:01:55.580 --> 02:02:00.860
and ten dollars forty five cents finance recommended to approve six to zero okay at this

02:02:00.860 --> 02:02:08.860
time now we'll open up for a hearing on m2 three four and five if you would like to speak please

02:02:08.860 --> 02:02:16.460
come forward state your name and address on m2 three four five um hi my name is justina

02:02:17.100 --> 02:02:27.180
sontag i live at 220 highland way lake janeeva and i'm the one on m2 regarding the property

02:02:27.180 --> 02:02:35.180
at four five zero nine thirtieth avenue um it was just in the finance meeting that started at like

02:02:35.260 --> 02:02:43.020
six fifteen and everyone voted to not rescind the fees i did pay

02:02:45.660 --> 02:02:53.420
about give or take forty six hundred dollars of fees i'm only asking for the thirty one fifty

02:02:53.420 --> 02:03:04.540
back and yes i did make a mistake and and not send the city my forward in address because i went

02:03:04.540 --> 02:03:13.820
to new jersey to take care of my father's estate my father died i it was a hard situation

02:03:14.460 --> 02:03:22.300
in my life that i was dealing with and i was in new jersey for a while my mail was forwarded

02:03:22.300 --> 02:03:30.380
but i did not get any of this mail and yeah technically you know the letter of the law

02:03:31.100 --> 02:03:38.380
you pay it all which which i did and the thing is these are for inspections that take a minute or

02:03:38.380 --> 02:03:47.260
two because when i found out about the situation when i was selling the property and this was all

02:03:47.260 --> 02:03:55.180
added on it was going to be taken out um you know i saw all the inspection fees i immediately took

02:03:55.180 --> 02:04:01.420
care of the situation within two days i called took care of the situation it was just a fence

02:04:01.420 --> 02:04:07.260
a little area of offense that was fallen over i went out after i hired someone to take care of it

02:04:08.380 --> 02:04:13.820
pulled up to the property it took me less than two minutes to inspect and see that it was taken

02:04:13.820 --> 02:04:21.980
care of so that's the amount of time that was spent on this times ten which and i'm not even

02:04:22.060 --> 02:04:27.180
asking for the other fifteen hundred dollars which i did pay just asking for the three thousand

02:04:27.180 --> 02:04:37.020
one hundred fifty dollars which it was two minutes to inspect this fence because i went and

02:04:37.020 --> 02:04:49.100
inspected it and it's just not financially it's just to me in my budget it's a crazy amount of money

02:04:50.060 --> 02:04:56.700
to spend on that and i get that i should have forwarded it my mail was forwarded from new jersey but

02:04:58.780 --> 02:05:04.380
i didn't get all of it i didn't get these notices the tenant that was there

02:05:05.500 --> 02:05:11.500
did not get the notices she died in december and i was not aware of that she didn't notify me

02:05:11.580 --> 02:05:19.820
that she died and so i did i did not know this there was a squatter in the house who was given

02:05:19.820 --> 02:05:29.980
notices i found out later and he didn't forward forward me these notices so

02:05:32.860 --> 02:05:38.380
i'm just the the thing is to if this was a health hazard if this was a

02:05:39.340 --> 02:05:43.500
risk to the community the situation with the fence that's leaning over

02:05:44.300 --> 02:05:49.180
yeah i'm sure it looked ugly but it wasn't a safety risk it wasn't a health hazard it wasn't

02:05:50.300 --> 02:05:57.260
a big threat to anybody and i paid a lot of the fees and i just

02:06:00.060 --> 02:06:02.060
really have a need for the funds

02:06:02.540 --> 02:06:10.780
um i know the what do you call it the finance committee i think it's called

02:06:11.340 --> 02:06:14.140
that mean i went to i know they recommend you know

02:06:15.660 --> 02:06:21.740
forget it she didn't do the right thing she didn't take care of this but it's not up to them

02:06:22.780 --> 02:06:31.020
they're five people it's up to the votes of everyone else here is what i found out

02:06:31.100 --> 02:06:32.620
today and

02:06:35.260 --> 02:06:41.260
basically i'm sorry i didn't take care of it i didn't know about it i was up to my ears and

02:06:42.300 --> 02:06:48.540
siblings and estate issues and all this other stuff with my in grieving the loss of my father

02:06:49.180 --> 02:06:53.660
and dealing with my own health problems which i'm not going to get into but

02:06:55.020 --> 02:06:57.340
um just hoping that

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the other 12 or 13 people are just human just like me maybe so um i don't know if i

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if anyone asked me questions or if that was already done if there are questions from the

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council that we can call you back up unless there's anything else you'd like to add

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um i don't think so okay thank you ma'am okay close the hearing

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gelman from the fifth thank you your honor i was at the finance meeting and i thought she has a

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legitimate case uh due to all the circumstances that were foreseen or not seen or unable to handle

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um i'd never disagree i shouldn't say never disagree i very rarely disagree with finance

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but i think on this one they were wrong and i want to vote for resending thank you

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thank you sir gelman from the first thank you your honor through the chair to the director of

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inspections just a quick question

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do we send these notifications out registered mail return return receipt requests that are

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something of that nature is just regular mail no we send them out class email class email so

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we have no we have no receipt that's we have no way to track so we don't track these

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no tracking corrosion and then maybe through the chair of the city attorney um obviously the

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fees escalate from the first vehicle to seventy two dollars and it goes in 90 then 180 then

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kind of hangs out there at 360 uh it's my understanding that that's there's not just

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inspection fees that have the bear kind of a reasonable resemblance the time we spend

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but there's a punitive portion of this right is that if i'm saying the right legal stuff i

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i would not agree that there's a punitive portion uh to this uh my understanding is these are

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uh charged based on the cost provide the cost of the um of the city's incurring providing

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services to the residents okay i don't believe from memory it wasn't explaining me at one point

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because we could certainly if the fees ask if the fees escalate and the inspection time is roughly

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the same and you're repeating the inspection then it'd be difficult to explain to 360 versus the

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90 in the 180 in the 72 but we could certainly talk about it off the record afterward there's

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there's a number of legal factors that well i'm just trying to i'm just trying to clarify that

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there there is again this is just me going from memory that it's not just a

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reinspection fee certainly the first one should bear a reasonable reason once right to the

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our fees incurred from what once the attorney told me at one time but i was led to believe that

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they become more somewhat punitive in nature also and that was a justification so anyway um we can

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talk about that offline thank you ron thank you sir gentlemen from the 10th

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thank you mr mare um through the mayor through the chair to the applicant

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ma'am can you come back up to the podium please

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I'm sorry i'm not familiar with all the lingo of the applicant reading your

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appeal it says um you were gone for two years yes did you have a property management

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or someone taking care of the property while you were gone for that two-year period

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no i did not usually the tenant would call me if there was any issue or text me

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usually she would call me you stated that the tenant died in December she did she died in

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December and i was not aware of this was rent stopped being paid in December

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no it was paid for December and January so

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so her i think you learned in march or april that the person had passed away then no rent was

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paid for march or april correct and you did not evict the person for non-payment rent

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she was dead so i couldn't evict her the tenant son the tenant son

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no i did not i just baked him to leave okay thank you thank you you're welcome

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thank you sir gentlemen from 13th thank you mr mare

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let's step back a minute first of all this this uh situations began when the city received a

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complaint about a cold violation at this location and the sitting spectra is sent out sent out a

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cold uh official to take a look at what the complaint was about

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determined it was a cold violation and served the process

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and then you know a letter was sent to her address of record

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and the notice was put on the door or handed to the tenant

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and then following that the inspection department went back out

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to determine whether or not work was had begun or was completed on the cold violation

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it was not so then a reinspection fee was applied 11 reinspections took place at this location

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more than once the city inspector made contact with the with the tenant

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requested information on how to contact the property owner phone call or whatever

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was unsuccessful in in getting that done the problem really is here

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that the uh property owner failed to change her address with the city of ganosia

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not only was she gone for two years but failed to to change the address

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her her own address for that property so the city could you know

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they sent the letter out as they're supposed to do the city did its job

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i'm sorry to say the uh the homeowner did not i'm not about to sit here and vote to change

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the processes and the procedures of of our city inspections and codes and and all that

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i would urge my colleagues to vote to deny thank you thank you sir okay so you know lights

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motion and floor is concurrence on finance and m two three four and five roll call please

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motion passes 16-0 and recommendations from the committee on public works and one acceptance

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of project my apologies 16-1 thank you and recommendations from the committee on public works and one

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acceptance of project 25 1044 20th avenue resurfacing which has been satisfactorily completed by

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a laland contractors incorporated the final amount of the contract is four hundred eleven thousand

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one hundred forty dollars and twenty one cents lady from the eighth is to make a motion to

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concur with the public works committee on n one moon is seconded to concur on item n one any

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discussion sing none roll call please

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motion passes 17-0 and two acceptance of project 25-1435 horizon park playground

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which has been satisfactorily completed by stuckey construction company the final amount

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of the contract is four hundred nineteen thousand eight hundred eighty five dollars and sixty five

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cents recommendation pending approval six zero gentlemen from the first looks concur with

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the recommendation to approve in the park commission oh that way

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moving second to concur with the parks commission on n two any discussion

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sing none roll call please

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motion passes 17-0 and three project 26-1-0-4-1-30

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that avenue resurfacing change order number one finance and public works committee recommendation

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approval six zero gentlemen from 13th move to concur with the finance committee recommendation

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to approve n three moving second to concur on item n three any discussion

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sing none all those in favor say or roll call please excuse me

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motion carries 17-0 p and such matters as are authorized by law or regular business p1

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agreement to hire an expert witness with regard to pending litigation with associated wholesale

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grocers in 25-cv-5-17 finance recommended to approve six to zero

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gentlemen from 13th move to concur with the finance committee recommendation to approve

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p1 second moving second to concur with finance and p1 any discussion

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sing none roll call please

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motion carries 17-0 p2 potential settlement authority for the city of kenosha's

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attorneys and Jane Doe versus Joshua Sylvester and the city of kenosha case number two 25-cv-0-1-2-4-3

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finance recommended you concur with the recommendation of legal counsel six to zero

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gentlemen from 13th move to concur with the finance committee recommendation

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thank you on p2 second spin

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moved and seconded to concur with the finance committee recommendation

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any discussion sing none roll call please

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please

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bless you

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alder person ciel

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motion carries 17-0 okay alder person's comments

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gentlemen from the 10th

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thank you mr. Mayor I want to first give a shout out to the k-town connect crew Jason

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Hedman and Donnie Sankato they celebrated their 200th podcast I had the honor of being their

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37th guest I didn't think they would make it to 50 and I was pleasantly surprised and but the

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reality is if you listen to these interviews with people in our community you really learn

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something about them you know a little bit about their business you might know a little bit about

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how these what they serve but it really gives you an insight into why people invest their time

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and energy into this community and I think it was a really special thing and again I congratulate

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them on their 200th podcast I don't think they're going to make it the 300 but who knows

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on a separate note I want to it takes a village to raise a child and sometimes it takes a

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entire community to put on a jazz fest we were supposed to have the 2026 harbor park

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jazz rhythm and blues festival at celebration place on saturday due to what we thought was going to

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be bad weather a decision was made to bring it indoors and that decision

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a lot caused a quite a few people to have to pivot and put some resources in to make sure

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that this concert went off which by the way benefits college students in our community

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it's for scholarships so I just want to thank everyone that was involved it took so many people

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to put that concert on to put the fundraiser together people from the city people from KUSD

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all our volunteers and also those who attended the event it didn't rain

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after all that it didn't rain but I really want to extend a thank you a hearty thank you to everyone

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who within a matter of 24 hours was ready to pivot and make this concert happen which again

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provides scholarships to students in our community so thank you one more time

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thank you sir gentlemen from the third thank you your honor I'm going to try to word this very

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carefully I've been getting emails and then complaints at citizens comments people seem to be

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indignant that they are limited to three minutes when of course there are more than 11 people

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wishy to speak the thing is this is not something we've just decided to do this is

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something we are required to do and you know I'm not going to talk about disruptive people or

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anything like that but I am going to say that they should also bear in mind that a lot of people

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who are on the published agenda have business have their livelihoods really involved with our vote

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on the published agenda they have to wait through all this and then they have to get you know their

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turn for public hearing so we're not ignoring you we are required to provide you your three

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minutes and we're not ignoring you and I'll leave it at that thank you sir motion to adjourn

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and your laptop will be in order want to try that again

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moving in second to adjourn all the favor say aye we stand adjourned thank you everybody

