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Call to order the

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Kenosha council meeting for

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Monday, August 17, 2026.

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Roll call please.

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Okay, let the record reflect the quorum is present.

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I want to ask everyone to please rise for a moment of silence followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Tonight I would like to ask everyone to please keep in your thoughts and prayers.

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The memory of Bishop Lawrence Kirby who passed away this past Friday.

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I know he was a friend to many of you in this room and many around this community.

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And our thoughts and prayers with the Kirby family as they deal with his loss.

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Can I get a motion to approve the minutes of July 20th and August 3rd, 2026?

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The move is second.

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Any changes or corrections?

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Seeing none.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries.

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We have 21 citizens that have signed up to speak.

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Each will have three minutes.

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When your name is called please proceed to the podium state your name and address for the record.

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The first speaker is Mary Marcynquez.

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The mic on?

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Yes ma'am.

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Okay.

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Hello.

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I am here tonight because I'm opposed to moving forward with the construction of an AI data center.

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Mary, can we get your name and address for the record please?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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It is my understanding that it will be one of the largest in Wisconsin to date with plans

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for a one-minute-foot complex.

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Mary, I'm sorry.

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You still can't hear me.

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No, I just need your name and address and then we can get started.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Mary Marcynquez, 7641 50th Avenue.

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Thank you ma'am.

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Okay.

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Can I start now?

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Okay.

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Hello.

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I'm opposed to moving forward with the construction of an AI data center in our county.

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It is my understanding that it is one of the largest in Wisconsin to date and it plans

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for a million-foot complex.

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I propose that we the people are allowed to vote on the data center if possible in November.

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I think that we as a state should enact a moratorium on any data center in Wisconsin

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and especially here so close to home.

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We need to ensure that the effects to our climate, rising temperatures, pollution on

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our land and water, as well as noise pollution are held to a minimum.

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There are too many unknowns to date.

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Any proposal, any proposed fossil fuel plants need to be halted.

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We need to utilize only alternative environmentally safe energy sources in the future.

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I have two grandchildren, one, age five, one, nine months and I fear that they will inherit

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the devastating effects of our poor choices.

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They deserve our attention to detail so that their future environment is a livable one

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because it is their environment.

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We need to stop research and take responsibility for our actions.

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We are not at the point where we know enough about using renewable energy in this situation.

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Remember, the CEOs of Microsoft do not have to live in this community after they wreak

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their havoc.

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I am a lover of nature and I was lucky to have spent the last two weeks in Wisconsin

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and Michigan reserves.

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On this vacation, I went to Pennvine, Wisconsin.

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If you do not know where that is, that is up north, way up north and there is an island

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there surrounded by the Menominee River and that island is protected by we energy.

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We energy has taken and protected the habitats of the plants and animals in that area.

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And I would ask the energy that we can work together.

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If they can protect our habitats, then we can work with them.

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They need to take the responsibility to tell us exactly up front what they are going to

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do and what their role is in data centers.

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Ma'am, you have 30 seconds.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, Nick Prorock.

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Nick Prorock 8858 Sheridan Road.

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Thank you, Mayor and all the persons for your attention this evening.

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I would like to talk about some of the lessons that I have learned about innovation since

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I have been paying attention.

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What is innovation?

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Innovation is recognizing that in the city of 100,000 people, we need outside influence

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and outside investments for growth because there is no way that us commoners could have

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the solutions to our everyday problems.

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Innovation is Microsoft abandoning their climate goals and acknowledging that the profit stream

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from artificial intelligence is more valuable than a future planet that has sustainable

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ecosystems and that is not on fire.

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Innovation is establishing training programs for younger generations to learn how to work

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in industries which are unpopular and unwelcome in the community.

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Innovation is promising thousands of jobs to workers and laborers to build the infrastructure

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that will make our city worse and paying them very well to do it.

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Innovation is NDAs.

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It's recognizing early the projects that people are against and planning through

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secrecy ways to move those projects forward anyway.

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Innovation is creating new realities by saying there is no NDA.

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Innovation is deciding that we don't need land to grow food and understanding that harvesting

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data on people is more profitable.

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There is nothing flashy about feeding the hungry.

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Innovation is rejecting notions like the right to privacy and enforcing mass surveillance

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on everyone and getting that technology to be paid for with our taxes.

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Innovation is allowing outside investors to buy up Kenosha land and water and sell it

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back to the people who were here first.

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Innovation is building luxury apartment buildings and charging homeless people to sleep outside.

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Innovation is figuring out how to assess people's property at higher values so you can charge

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them a lower percentage of property tax but still charge them more money.

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Innovation is doing things more morally grounded people wouldn't consider doing business practices

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like polluting the air and water and tracking where people go 24 hours a day.

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Innovation is recognizing that you are right and we are wrong in abandoning your duties

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to represent the people to achieve your dreams and your growth and your goals and your vision

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for Kenosha is the best path forward.

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Thank you for making Kenosha the center of innovation in southeast Wisconsin.

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I'd like you to request you consider the possibility that the most innovative ideas will come from

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the people who live here not from AI and not from trillion dollar companies.

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Nick you have 30 seconds.

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So I'd like to ask that you don't build this data center, pass a moratorium to make sure

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that our environment and our water is kept clean and safe and thank you for your time.

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Julie, Christian Berry.

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Hi, my name is Julie Christian Berry.

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I live in Pleasant Prairie.

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However, the ill effects of the data center, no, no city, county or other limits.

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I do however own an apartment building at 6703 35th Avenue in Kenosha.

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I'm concerned about the value of my property and the ability to find tenants once the dangers

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of the data center become real.

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My tenants are real people and they matter to me.

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I say with no shame that my four daughters and my five very young grandchildren are the

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people I worry most about.

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I don't have to recite the environmental and human concerns.

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I have this is a third common council meeting I've been to, but the first I have spoken

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at since public speaking does not come easily to me.

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I should have spoken up when the data center went up in Mount Pleasant since we own an

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apartment building and we're seeing, but it seemed to go up overnight.

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These projects are being rushed through secretly.

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No public notices, no information in learning sessions, no town forums to educate people.

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You are elected to represent us, not big tech.

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Pause this debacle by initiating a forum, excuse me, a moratorium so that you can educate

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yourselves please and your constituents.

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Thank you.

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Howard Gusk.

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Howard Gusk is 5914, 128th Avenue, Kenosha, actually town of Paris.

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We own Woofman's Lodge right on the corner there.

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Obviously I'm here against the data center, not against development.

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You line their good neighbors, Amazon was a good neighbor, you know, they've landscaped

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the property, it looks good, not against development in that area.

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I mean, we're talking my street.

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Our street's going now to four lanes from two rural road that's starting next year.

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You know, a data center is not a fit for that area.

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I have large, everyone's talked about the pollution, the energy, what are we all know

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about that.

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My concern really is the constant noise.

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You're hearing out of Texas from all these people that live nearby, the constant drone.

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You're not far from Paris school, which is award winning school, and you have all the

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farm animals there.

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No one knows the impact and what it's going to do to melt production, beef production.

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I think that we need to hit the pause button on this and, you know, everyone's not in my

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backyard.

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Everyone that's speaking here lives quite a distance away.

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We're only about a mile away, maybe two miles away from it.

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Far enough that I won't see it, but all my friends and neighbors, it's in their backyard.

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So, you know, I just want to express that I think this should be done by referendum.

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This should not be jammed down our throats.

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I think, you know, and see, I can pretty much guarantee you're not going to find anybody

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speaking in favor of this.

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But it is amazing that in Texas, it's become that they're putting a moratorium on these

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things.

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Thanks for your time.

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Leslie Brown.

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Leslie Brown, 5914, 128th Avenue, Kenosha.

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I just want to go on record as saying, I believe we need a moratorium on these AI data

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centers.

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They're being rushed through without allowing, you know, the proper information sessions

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in that for the, you know, citizens that are living near and are going to be affected by

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them.

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And what's the rush?

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You know, these, we need to take our time and do, you know, look into this there, you

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know, again, you know, progress, great, you know, but this isn't the type of progress

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that we need.

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You're going to be threatening the health of citizens, you know, future generations.

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A lot of us people out there were on wells, you know, and it's just, and the gas turbine

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plants that they need to power these, that's a whole nother problem.

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And the, the, the plant that they want to power, it will employ eight full-time employees.

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My business, Woofman's Lodge, employs 14 people.

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My small business is going to employ more than one of the power plants that they need

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to run these.

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So I just think that we need to slow things down.

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Let's do this wisely or better yet, let's not, you know, you know, let us have a chance

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at our own future and our own health.

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Thank you.

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Jerry Moore.

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Jerry Moore, 10, 9, 18, 69th Street.

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In my five last council speaks to you.

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The voices in opposition to data centers have been clear and unified.

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We've said no, we've asked for a moratorium, public announcements to the community and

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group forums.

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Even though on issues like this, we really deserve a vote.

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Monday after Monday, we ask and speak into nothingness.

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While an industrial giant stands to disrupt, destroy, displace, change, replace, homelands,

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environments, our health, and Wisconsin culture with ugly and demanding infrastructure.

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Drastic changes uprooting lives, habitats, and land parcels never intended for this scale

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of industrial development.

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70% of Americans oppose data centers.

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And the lack of public notice or group forums is more than disheartening, adding to, I feel,

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intentional secrecy.

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How many of you have even driven by the Mount Pleasant Fairwater Site or seen the nighttime

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glare?

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Recently, I drove to the proposed site, farmhouse windows painted black, as during non-disclosure

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days, something boarded up would have drawn attention and raised too many questions.

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To me again, secrecy.

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Driving down UE, I saw the route a July 6 speaker said was the most beautiful of bike

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rides.

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I saw natural pollinator patches with beads, birdsong, and crickets.

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Experienced ecosystems that, through city partnerships, you're now trying to create here

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in the city, but destroying in Paris because of land decisions you made to annex rezone

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that uproot lives, lands, legacies.

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The citizens we probably can forgive disagreement, we can forgive difficult decisions.

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What we don't forgive is feeling that our voice is never mattered.

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Be transparent, Council, represent constituents, not boardrooms.

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We need room for difficult questions, respectful disagreement, and information not heard or

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thought about.

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We need public servants who encourage participation and earn trust.

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Give a legacy on Council as doing the correct thing.

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Write the wrongs and say act as if you stood up and tried.

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May I be happy?

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If not one of the complicity and secrecy, I am proud and thankful of the younger friends

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behind me who care about what happens beyond their lifetime.

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Maybe that is what legacy is all about, what we cared enough to keep intact.

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Thank you.

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Amy Mayer.

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Hello.

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I'm Amy Mayer.

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I live at 614, 15th place in Kenosha, and I have a few statistics that I think are very

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important to consider.

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One large data center will use between 30 to 150 million gallons in one month.

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A medium one uses between 9 and 15 million gallons a month.

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And what we're finding is that once the cooling process is done, some of that water is turned

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to steam.

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However, some of it is going into our municipal systems.

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Now we know what's going on in Indiana.

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Right now, Indiana has between 72 and 125 data centers.

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So think of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Indiana, we're all around Lake Michigan.

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And the number of these data centers and the amount of water that's being consumed on

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a monthly basis, a citizen in Indiana had stated she has never seen anything like this

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in 45 years.

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So yes, there is rain, but perhaps the sewer systems are overloaded.

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Not just that, there's heavy electrical usage.

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If the system is overloaded, something that has not yet been explored, for long term,

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people won't be able to access hot water, they're cooking, they're refrigeration.

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So this is why it's imperative that as a community and as a country, we really need

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to examine and think very carefully about everything that is going on.

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It's very serious.

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So the tech players want to run fast and furious, run with the ball, of course, because they're

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going to be gaining from that financially.

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So we really need to put this into perspective and make an educated decision.

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Thank you.

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Jackie Simm Hello, Jacqueline Simm, 5502, 63rd Street.

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I'm standing before you tonight to ask the council to enact a moratorium on the proposed

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AI data center in Kenosha.

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There are four points of concern that I would like to raise.

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First, this industrial warehouse is not an innovation hub.

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We are being sold a story about tech innovation, but let's be honest, handing over Kenosha

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land for massive 1 million square foot industrial warehouse complex does not sound like innovation

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nor does it benefit our community.

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Second, the job numbers are vague.

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Official minutes from the November 2024 plan commission meetings showed that the developers

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representatives stated that each building would employ 10 to 20 workers.

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Now public statements claim around 50 per building with employees and vendors occupying

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each building.

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Throwing temporary contractors, third party vendors, maintenance, security and technical

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employees into a single baseline number, a high to the number of permanent high paying

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local jobs.

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We are told 80 to $100,000 per year, but let's be clear that's only for people with graduate

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degrees and we don't know what that actual figure is.

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Is it four people?

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Is it eight people?

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We don't know.

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There's a lot of temporary benefit while the buildings are being constructed, but I want

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you to consider the long term impacts.

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Third, when asked about the water source for the site, the official FAQ gives a single

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vague sentence, quote, the source for the site would be from the Kenosha water utility,

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end quote.

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That complete lack of detail ignores where the water actually comes from, our beautiful

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gem Lake Michigan.

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It hides the massive systemic water footprint required by the power plants to generate

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the electricity that this facility will require every day.

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We're being told it's 4,500 gallons per day, but that's not actually true because the energy

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source, they also require water.

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So that number's not included in this 4,500 gallons per day figure.

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So that needs to be stated plainly and transparently to the people.

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Fourth, there are documented noise issues at the existing facilities in Wisconsin.

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In Port Washington, residents have filed a class action lawsuit against local facility

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regarding sound levels.

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As recently as July 20th, 2026, thank you, Microsoft confirmed that engineering teams

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are continuing to evaluate and mitigate the noise at that site.

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We do not want Kenosha to become another caution story for Wisconsin.

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Kenosha County should not be Microsoft's guinea pig.

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I urge this council to listen to the people who live here, protect our resources and pass

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a moratorium to shut this project down.

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Thank you.

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Dorothy Nolan.

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Hello, my name is Dorothy Nolan.

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I live at 802.21st Avenue in Kenosha.

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My comments today are regarding the proposed data center.

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I last spoke to this council about my concerns on air quality because I feel strongly about

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the data center extraction of our resources like land and water.

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I've been looking closely at the headline warning signs around the country on this topic.

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Here are my recent top 10.

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Number one, Governor Abbott of Texas has halted data center approvals.

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He has directed the state's regulators to complete a comprehensive audit before projects

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can move forward.

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Two, the illusion of waterless AI, how closed-loop data centers shift the freshwater burden

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to power plants.

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Three, experts say we don't need more data centers to build better AI.

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Four, Lake County residents file lawsuit to block 472 Acre Data Center campus in Grays

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Lake, Illinois.

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Five, AI's impact on the environment is absolutely horrifying.

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Six, open AI says it's AI went rogue and launched an unprecedented cyber attack.

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Seven, we energies is already proposing a 14% rate increase over the next two years.

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Eight, inside this secretive deal for a $10 billion data center in rural North Carolina.

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Nine, the left and right agree on one thing, no data centers.

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Ten, a massive amount of data center power abruptly disconnected from the largest US

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electric grid in July, 2026, causing a voltage disturbance that could be felled from D.C.

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to Chicago down to Miami.

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There's a common thread that continues to surface when you look at the headlines and

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that's one of lack of trust and a technology that's out of control.

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Collectively, the public trust has been eroded given the secrecy and silence around these

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data centers.

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My concern is that the city of Kenosha may not be looking at the resource extraction

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around the country.

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We do not have limited resources.

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We have no regulations or plan for massive job losses.

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The projected pollution is a major health hazard and our electric grid is not ready

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to handle a load.

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You have an obligation as a governing body to act on our behalf and not the tech companies.

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Miami, you have 30 seconds.

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Look around the country.

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This is not just an issue in Kenosha.

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The warning signs are everywhere.

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We need a pause on this to make sure the proper guardrails are in place.

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Thanks.

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Greg Kessen.

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Greg Kressen, 802. 21st Avenue, Kenosha.

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I say no to the data center and I also say no to the gas plants.

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My comments today are about the details of the power issue that occurred on July 22nd

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because of the data center in Virginia.

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Just before 8 a.m. on July 22nd, electricity flickered on and off for about 10 minutes.

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An engineer's data says it happened throughout the eastern half of the United States, from

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Chicago to Boston to Miami.

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He ties a problem to a data center alley in Ashburn, Virginia and says that seamlessly

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small blip is a sign that our infrastructure is in danger.

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Experts say cracks in our infrastructure grid are starting to show as the data center industry

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consumes electricity as a rate this world has never seen or experienced before.

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The data centers are such a big load on the grid that they have that departmental impact

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on the surrounding grid said Bob Marshall with ting labs.

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The company sells a device to plug into the wall to monitor your home's electricity and

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alert you if something's awry to try to prevent an electrical fire.

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With millions of these devices in your homes across the U.S., Marshall's data collected

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shows something he flagged as a concern at 7.56 a.m. electricity throughout the eastern

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half of the U.S. dropped, spiked, dropped, spiked and leveled off.

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Marshall said it happened a few more times over the next 10 minutes.

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This one event serving either one building or whatever the data center complex is impacted

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the entire region and this is what experts are worried about.

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News 4 reached out to Dominion energy about the power grid glitch.

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The power company said a piece of equipment on one of the high-end voltage transmission

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lines that serves data centers failed knocking it out of service.

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As a result, the data center system switched back up power.

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Dominican energy did not disconnect area data centers from the grid.

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The data centers on systems transferred from the backup power for a very short period

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of time.

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Ting labs provided News 4 with a graphic showing the scale of the service disruption.

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The company said orange is really bad and red is worse.

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Those colors were more, the colors covered more than half the U.S.

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Wisconsin is completely covered in orange.

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People working on regulations around this, they're concerned on these events and the

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future could cause the grid to become unstable and if that does happen back in a few, over

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a few more minutes over 10, we'd be dealing with a real problem and the possibility of

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a blackout.

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Our hospitals and schools and everyone that is sick, we need the power for humans.

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Speaker Arabella Kessler.

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Arabella Kessler, 33, 27, 47th Avenue, Kenosha, Wisconsin.

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Today I'm here to focus on a demand for a moratorium.

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All over the state, moratoriums are being passed to protect our residents, lands and

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lakes.

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Green County, Manitowoc County, Dane County, Dodge County and the city slash townships

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of Superior, Madison, Waterloo, just to name a few of all already passed moratoriums with

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dozens of other places having them or outright bans proposed.

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The village of Wrightstown had a referendum on their primary ballot this past week asking

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the people their opinion on data center development.

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The answer was an overwhelming no, we don't want them here with 87% of residents voting

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against development.

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Additionally, the small town of Caseville, Wisconsin had a proposed $1 billion data center

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and despite a potential 5.5 million annually in property tax revenue, they unanimously

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struck it down 44-0 going as far as to enact an outright ban on data centers in their town.

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Clearly, other counties, cities and townships see the dangers and concerns that residents

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have brought up and are willing to listen to their constituents.

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Why won't Kenosha?

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Why are we rushing if not purely for political and financial incentives to build something

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when we know so little about how it may affect Kenosha and the lake as a whole?

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You can say you know the potential effects, but have you listened to any scientists outside

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of the ones on Microsoft's payroll?

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Maybe it's because Microsoft has offered grants to our already underfunded public institutions

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which we have accepted.

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Microsoft has been laying its seeds here for years, quite literally by partnering with

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us last year to create pollinator patches, lulling us into a quiet sense of security

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before they leave us high and dry.

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Look across the country, this is what these corporations do.

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Another point I'd like to mention today is my strong suggestion to host a public town

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hall where you can clearly hear the voices of the folks you represent.

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The mayor was comfortable running town halls as an older person for his district.

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What changed?

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To only speak to residents individually shows a lack of confidence in the city's ability

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to defend their position on the benefits of hyperscale data centers and an awareness

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that a majority of the city is not in favor.

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You are only breeding division.

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What are you so afraid of?

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Does it annoy you to sit and listen to me?

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To participate in the role you chose and were elected to do?

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I strongly encourage each older person to independently research this issue and talk

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to the folks they represent.

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Whether you want to believe in the facts presented to you or not, there are many reasons to support

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a moratorium.

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These technocrat billionaires and hyperscale data centers are rapidly changing the political

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and physical landscape of our country.

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What's the risk of airing on the side of caution?

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Once we sign the contracts, once we agree to these companies' demands, we lose all leverage.

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You cannot seriously expect me to believe, do you even believe, that we can check and

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balance Microsoft?

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The same Microsoft that currently has an open lawsuit against them for failing to follow

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through with their promises in Mount Pleasant?

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Which by the way, despite this and their commitment to being a good neighbor, in the next

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few years they plan on tripling the amount of energy they are using now.

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If you look across the country, there are countless lawsuits popping up against other

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data centers for similar issues.

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In terms of fighting back against these companies, let's look at the township of Sailing, Michigan.

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There was a proposed $16 billion data center, which residents helped prevent.

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However, two days later, the developers and landowners sued the township and contractually

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bullied them into backing down.

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The data center will be allowed to move forward with construction entirely against the town's

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wishes.

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This is just one example, but if you'd like, I can come back with more.

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These are corporations that have the ability to overrule local governments, and we need

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to be talking about it, and we need to be angry about it.

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I know I am, which is exactly why Kenosha needs to pass a moratorium now.

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You all still have a chance to show me.

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Thank you.

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I'm just got Albert.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

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Let her speak.

489
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,040
Let her speak.

490
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,040
She's almost done.

491
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,040
Next speaker, please.

492
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,040
Let her speak.

493
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,040
Let her speak.

494
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,040
Let her speak.

495
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,040
Folks, come on.

496
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,040
We're being respected.

497
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,040
We're being respected.

498
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,040
We're being respectful here.

499
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,040
I'm just asking, please.

500
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,040
Open needing law violations.

501
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,040
Ma'am, thank you.

502
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,040
Next speaker, please.

503
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,040
Thank you.

504
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,040
Let her speak.

505
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,040
Let her speak.

506
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,040
Let her speak.

507
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:32,040
You're going to be escorted out.

508
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:40,040
You're going to be served.

509
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,000
This is a, I'm going to ask you one more time, please.

510
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,640
We are being respectful by listening.

511
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:47,640
This is a meeting.

512
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,440
We have rules that we have to follow.

513
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,440
I'm asking you nicely, sir.

514
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,440
Otherwise, I'm going to ask you to leave.

515
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,440
I'm asking you to leave.

516
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,440
This thing's happening.

517
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,440
Let her speak.

518
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,440
Let her speak.

519
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,440
Let her speak.

520
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,440
I know it's time.

521
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,440
Oh, wow.

522
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,440
Thank you.

523
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,440
Please continue.

524
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,440
Thank you.

525
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,440
We just need your name and address for the record, please.

526
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:24,440
Thank you.

527
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,440
My name is Scott Albert, 7822, 30th Avenue.

528
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,440
Progress has to be positive and profitable.

529
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,440
Good evening, Mr. Mayor and ladies and gentlemen of the Common Council.

530
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,440
Thank you, Mayor, for meeting with me several weeks ago.

531
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,440
I have a discussion about the hyperscale AI data center.

532
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,440
I appreciate the amount of details that was taken to ensure this proposed data center

533
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:51,440
but operate in a way that would protect all aspects and concerns being expressed

534
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,440
by the citizens, neighbors, and friends of Kenosha.

535
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,440
I still do not want a hyperscale AI data center.

536
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,440
However, I am asking for a moratorium.

537
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:09,440
A moratorium is a temporary stop or pause on a specific activity, rule, or legal duty.

538
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,440
Governments, courts, or businesses use a moratorium to delay actions,

539
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:18,440
such as paying debts, building new houses, or catching certain fish

540
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,440
until a problem is fixed or a situation is studied.

541
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,440
I ask you, Mr. Mayor and ladies and gentlemen of the Common Council,

542
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:33,440
for said moratorium so we can study the hyperscale AI data centers that are already functioning.

543
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:40,440
I believe these are functioning and are only theories behind the operations of the hyperscale AI data centers.

544
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:47,440
A moratorium will allow studies to be conducted in order to fully evaluate the operations of said data centers.

545
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:52,440
Last Tuesday, I exercised my civil duty to vote my conscience.

546
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:59,440
Today, I stand here with my fellow citizens of Kenosha, my neighbors, all your neighbors,

547
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:08,440
to exercise yet another civil duty, and that is to stand here and vocalize my opposition to the hyperscale AI data center.

548
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:14,440
I would like the opportunity to vote on this proposal and hope the option will be available as a referendum.

549
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:23,440
As for today, I stand here and ask as a citizen of Kenosha for moratorium. Thank you.

550
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:37,440
Colton Roberts.

551
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,440
Hello, my name is Colton Roberts. I live at 47, 10, 18th of Kenosha, Wisconsin.

552
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,440
It'll be a second week. I say it, coward.

553
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,440
Pure cowardice is being shown from our administration, not only to the disrespect to the people,

554
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,440
not only to the blagrant violation of the spirit of our First Amendment rights,

555
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:59,440
but due to the fact that half of y'all are over the age of 60 and will not live to see the effects of the data center.

556
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:05,440
When my daughter turns 21, they can legally drink, what if she has asthma, due to the shit y'all done?

557
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:14,440
What happens if when I'm going to retire, I can't, because I'm on a deathbed, because you in basilic freakwads, I don't know,

558
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:19,440
do nothing but push for a carcinogenic building to be built in our societies?

559
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:25,440
What happens when there's no one left to sue because y'all are dead?

560
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,440
What are we going to do?

561
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,440
We can't tear down the building once it's built.

562
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,440
Say it again, cowardice is being shown from this administration.

563
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,440
I'm looking you in the eye, Mr. Mayor.

564
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,440
It's tomato-headed freak.

565
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,440
No, why should I show respect to the people who are not respecting me?

566
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,440
I have one representative of the City Council, Mr. Kelly McKay.

567
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:53,440
He has shown me former respect, compassion, understanding, and kindness than that man sitting up there.

568
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,440
Just because you don't like what someone has to say, you still got to listen to it.

569
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,440
I listened to every single word you said when you invited me to speak to you one-on-one.

570
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,440
And I gave it thought, and I disagreed with you.

571
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:10,440
But I didn't call for the damn cops to bring me out, sorry to bring you out, because I didn't like what you had to say.

572
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:15,440
Shame, nothing but shame.

573
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:22,440
I wish I'd want to say, but my heart is racing, I can barely think of it calling you fox.

574
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:29,440
Next speaker, Leanne Carpenter.

575
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:37,440
Leanne, last name starts with a C.

576
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:44,440
Leanne on 43rd Avenue.

577
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,440
My writing was a little sloppy, Carpenter.

578
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,440
Leanne Carpenter of 1585, 43rd Avenue.

579
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:57,440
I want to speak about the non-disclosure agreement, which is probably why people are very pissed off.

580
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:04,440
I actually looked up the definition because I wasn't sure of all the specifics of what an NDA was.

581
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:18,440
And I found an NDA is a legally binding contract in which one or more parties agree not to disclose specific confidential information to others.

582
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,440
So were the others, the citizens of Kenosha?

583
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:36,440
It protects trade secrets, business strategies, proprietary technology, and other sensitive data by creating a confidential relationship between the two parties.

584
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:47,440
Now, a confidential relationship with trust between you guys and Microsoft, not between you guys and the others, which is the way it's supposed to be.

585
00:58:47,440 --> 00:59:05,440
When you tell us, the others, to trust you, the data center will bring jobs, financial incentives for the community, and there won't be any negative impacts because Microsoft gave you guys a sales pitch and you trust them, you believe them.

586
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:20,440
While at the same time, you're keeping the terms, the negotiations, the future predictions, a secret behind an NDA, you are lying by omission to all the others.

587
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,440
You're breaking trust in a big, big, big way.

588
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:37,440
By agreeing to the NDA, you're telling Microsoft that the citizens of Kenosha are a nuisance, a stumbling block, or hurdle to be overcome, something to be dealt with after the fact.

589
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,440
Put it up and we'll deal with them later.

590
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:47,440
And whether or not anybody in this room actually has those thoughts or had those thoughts in the beginning, it doesn't matter because Microsoft does have those thoughts.

591
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,440
They are a large company, a successful company, that's how they got where they are.

592
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,440
They don't worry about the aftermath, which is us.

593
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,440
They worry about their bottom line.

594
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,440
That's why you guys are here to protect us, to advocate for us.

595
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:16,440
Microsoft or any other big company that comes in here wanting our stuff for whatever reason should be considered guilty or not safe until they prove themselves to be otherwise.

596
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:22,440
In this case, jobs and cash incentives were used as bribes for your silence.

597
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:23,440
You have 30 seconds.

598
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:30,440
A project of this magnitude, if it's truly in the best interest, of the community should not require secrecy.

599
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,440
Period.

600
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,440
Please do the right thing.

601
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,440
Listen to us.

602
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,440
We need a moratorium.

603
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:45,440
If not a full stop to the building of this data center or any other data center proposal from any other company.

604
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,440
Anybody else who wants to come in here and use our stuff.

605
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,440
Thank you for your time.

606
01:00:52,440 --> 01:01:10,440
Hello.

607
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:15,440
My name is Ed Ruka, 7727 Fifth Avenue.

608
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,440
I'm standing here tonight, not a policy expert.

609
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,440
Just a resident deeply concerned about the data center.

610
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,440
What it means for our homes, our kids and our wallets.

611
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:33,440
When the big tech companies come to town, they talk about job creation tax revenues.

612
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:44,440
But when you look at the past pitch, doctors, scientists, environmental health researchers are flagging serious health and financial risks that hit us.

613
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,440
That hit us right at the neighborhood level.

614
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:59,440
Here's what real world data shows from an independent study from Dr. Michael Cork, who has a PhD from Harvard.

615
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:05,440
Dr. Cork has been studying data centers for over 15 years.

616
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,440
First, the air we breathe.

617
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:18,440
These facilities bring massive banks of diesel backup generators and sometimes even power their own plants right on site.

618
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:32,440
After recent study models, national data centers grows shows that air pollution from these sites cause over 1000 premature deaths

619
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:40,440
and will cost our healthcare system 20 billion every single year by the year 2030.

620
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:52,440
Other studies have found just one large data center running on site power can cause up to 90 million a year in local health damages.

621
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:59,440
Mostly our kids ending up in the ER with asthma attacks, our seniors facing heart issues.

622
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:06,440
And I know that many of you have children and grandchildren that you would not want to harm.

623
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:16,440
And as some of you may be seniors, like me, or have parents that are seniors, I'm sure you don't want to cut their lives short.

624
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:21,440
Or maybe some might want to get rid of their parents a little early in life.

625
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:33,440
Yes, I've heard the arguments of Uline and Amazon and other companies that would have diesel trucks running.

626
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:38,440
And you would the same exhaust that these generators would.

627
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,440
But we have to remember one thing.

628
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,440
Each truck employs somebody.

629
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,440
A diesel generator doesn't employ anybody.

630
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,440
So you have 30 seconds.

631
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:51,440
All right.

632
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:57,440
Second noise, the nonstop noise from data centers.

633
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:09,440
Huge cooling fans 24, 7, 365 of a low frequency and the study of noise pollution shows that living near the constant hum.

634
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:16,440
People's sleepless, raises stress hormones, and spikes of blood pressure.

635
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:21,440
Imagine not being outside the whole time in your backyard when these are here.

636
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:22,440
Sorry, your time is up.

637
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,440
Okay, thank you very much.

638
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:32,440
Next speaker, Gary Comack.

639
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:38,440
Gary, I'm 37th Street.

640
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,440
Last call for Gary.

641
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:53,440
Next speaker, Niam Raman.

642
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:58,440
Neve Raman, 6837, 155th Avenue.

643
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:06,440
To be honest, there's no place that rather be less tonight on this beautiful summer evening, especially given all the rain we've had recently.

644
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:15,440
Yet I find my evenings, weekends, and even breaks during the workday being taken up by a massive amount of volunteer hours fighting this data center.

645
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:26,440
I, and a slew of other folks that's growing and growing, are working overtime, balancing full time jobs, childcare, family obligations, summer events, wedding planning,

646
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:32,440
house side hustles, summer school, vacations, sick parents, aging pets, losses.

647
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,440
The list goes on and on.

648
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,440
Yet we continue to show up to these meetings as futile as they feel.

649
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:46,440
We continue to put hours and hours into video editing, graphic design, content strategy, yard sign distribution, event planning,

650
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,440
contacting speakers, rallying residents, door knocking.

651
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,440
I could talk your ear off on how much we've done and are still doing.

652
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,440
Just know we're coming for your jobs.

653
01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:04,440
I'm seriously impressed at the amount of courage, intelligence, sharp-minded and whitted, strategic, quick-acting, hard-working, et cetera,

654
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,440
folks I've come to know through this activism.

655
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,440
People of all ages, races, genders, political ideologies, it's honestly refreshing.

656
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,440
And I know Kenosha will be in good hands for the next generation.

657
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,440
But what I fear is that we'll have so much cleaning up we'll need to do.

658
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:29,440
Cleaning up and paying financially but also physically and mentally for the self-indulgent, greedy, ignorant, irresponsible,

659
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:36,440
I don't know, choices made by our current elected officials, who may I remind since it seems like they need reminding every two weeks

660
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,440
work for us, the residents of the city that they govern.

661
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:46,440
So I could rant and rave up here all day as I have before and as everyone else has,

662
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:51,440
and in private phone calls with my alderman and other alderman, but let me ask you these questions.

663
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,440
What will your reaction be if and when our drinking water turns brown?

664
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:00,440
Can you sleep with yourself at night knowing you're endangering the constituents of your districts?

665
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:07,440
Why do you simply refuse to provide any level of dialogue that's not in a private one-on-one conversation?

666
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:13,440
Did you see how viral the video went the last two weeks when Montana was escorted out by the cops?

667
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:20,440
Yeah, that went viral and had about 60,000 views, over 2,000 likes and hundreds of comments.

668
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:25,440
And quite frankly, the vast majority was praised for her speaking out.

669
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:30,440
We acknowledged she went over her three minute time, but everybody was in favor and wanted to hear what she had to say.

670
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,440
You have 30 seconds.

671
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,440
Will you have any regret if you're not elected back into office?

672
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:40,440
Since I won't get answers to those questions tonight anyways, I'll just say like many others have before,

673
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:45,440
if you're not listening and you're not paying attention, a wave is rising higher and higher,

674
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:50,440
and we're taking you all down with it.

675
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,440
Next speaker, Daniel Laska.

676
01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:42,440
Daniel Laska, we've all met before.

677
01:08:42,440 --> 01:08:44,440
Yes, has he yet?

678
01:08:44,440 --> 01:08:45,440
Cool.

679
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:47,440
My name is Dan Laska.

680
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:48,440
We've all met before.

681
01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:52,440
24-0-3-136 have.

682
01:08:52,440 --> 01:09:03,440
As I said before, I share a property line with Microsoft, and tonight I'm talking because this is very personal for us.

683
01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:12,440
I'll personal what I just put up is the actual distance from the wall in my house to Microsoft property.

684
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:14,440
I'm R2.

685
01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:20,440
That to that is a distance to heavy industrial.

686
01:09:20,440 --> 01:09:25,440
You guys did that November 21st, 2024.

687
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:30,440
And for all those, you can see the video of them voting on it on the Kenosha website.

688
01:09:30,440 --> 01:09:32,440
You can dig for it.

689
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:34,440
So that's why it's personal.

690
01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:36,440
I'm trying to protect my family.

691
01:09:36,440 --> 01:09:37,440
I'm a father.

692
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:38,440
You're a father's.

693
01:09:38,440 --> 01:09:40,440
How would you feel?

694
01:09:40,440 --> 01:09:42,440
This is about the size of a patio, right?

695
01:09:42,440 --> 01:09:44,440
It's 10 feet, 4 inches.

696
01:09:44,440 --> 01:09:46,440
It recurs how far that is.

697
01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:51,440
It's 10 feet, 4 inches to the wall of my house to heavy industrial.

698
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:57,440
November 24th, November 21st, 2024.

699
01:09:57,440 --> 01:09:59,440
You all seem kind of pretty happy in the room.

700
01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:01,440
You almost wanted to give high fives.

701
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:03,440
A lot of gaveling going on.

702
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:05,440
I'm pretty proud.

703
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,440
That moment changed this.

704
01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:10,440
I thought I had a house that was safe.

705
01:10:10,440 --> 01:10:14,440
I wanted to raise my family, raise my children in.

706
01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:19,440
Instead, I'm up here, and I've added the minutes because you get three minutes, and then we're getting five minutes.

707
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:21,440
And I applaud everybody here for showing up.

708
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:22,440
This was amazing.

709
01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:24,440
Good for you guys.

710
01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:29,440
I had 18 minutes in front of you over the past six or seven sessions to talk.

711
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:32,440
And I've tried to come up with an angle every time, a different one.

712
01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:34,440
This was my latest.

713
01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:43,440
But I'm up here as a father trying to protect his family, his children, as a representative that loves his community of Paris.

714
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:45,440
He's trying to protect my community.

715
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:47,440
I'm trying to protect my land name.

716
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:51,440
I have a lot of equity in that.

717
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:55,440
In a weird way, I'm trying to protect your community.

718
01:10:55,440 --> 01:11:00,440
How ironic is that when your guys come into us?

719
01:11:00,440 --> 01:11:01,440
How many of you have visited?

720
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:07,440
I live 800 feet from the actual intersection of 142 and 36.

721
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:09,440
You've been out there?

722
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:10,440
Seen it?

723
01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:13,440
Did you look at it before you voted on it?

724
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:15,440
Would you buy a car before you looked at it?

725
01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:17,440
Would you buy a house before you looked at it?

726
01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:25,440
So you have 30 seconds?

727
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:27,440
This is very personal to me.

728
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:29,440
And I'm not going to stop.

729
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:30,440
You came to my doorstep.

730
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:38,440
You came 10 feet, 4 inches from my doorstep.

731
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:40,440
We're serious people.

732
01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:46,440
We're very serious and we're getting very organized.

733
01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:51,440
Sometimes, if you win, you can really lose.

734
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:56,440
Thank you.

735
01:11:56,440 --> 01:12:02,440
Next speaker, Jared Hunt.

736
01:12:02,440 --> 01:12:09,440
Jared Hunt.

737
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:13,440
Last call for Jared Hunt.

738
01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:17,440
59-21-6th Avenue.

739
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:21,440
Next speaker, Samuel Erving.

740
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:28,440
I'm going to bring it down here.

741
01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:35,440
Don't start my time, or do you see it?

742
01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:40,440
Cripple, come on.

743
01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:44,440
Samuel Irving, 88-29-17th Avenue.

744
01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:52,440
I'm a big movie fan.

745
01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:54,440
And arts have always been a passion of mine.

746
01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:56,440
I worked in it for a long time.

747
01:12:56,440 --> 01:13:01,440
I worked as an engineer doing concerts and events.

748
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:03,440
I've been around, I know tech.

749
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:05,440
Anyway, I digress.

750
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:08,440
We can learn about from these films that we watch.

751
01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:12,440
They often show us ideas and themes that give us insight on the world around us

752
01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:16,440
from love and loss and working through that and technology

753
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:20,440
and the dangers of not fully understanding its reach.

754
01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:26,440
In Minority Report, starring Tom Cruise, everybody's favorite, 2002.

755
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:30,440
People live in a world where they're always being watched

756
01:13:30,440 --> 01:13:33,440
and crime is reported before can even happen.

757
01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:36,440
It's far fetched, it's dramatic, it makes the movie good.

758
01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:39,440
But a lot of this is coming real today.

759
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:45,440
The clairvoyance of the tech, obviously, is not real

760
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:51,440
and the dramatic fight scenes just make the movie exciting, but it makes a good film.

761
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:55,440
The theme and the background of the film remains.

762
01:13:55,440 --> 01:14:00,440
It warns of the dangers of surveillance and the invasion of privacy

763
01:14:00,440 --> 01:14:03,440
with the idea that anybody can be a potential threat.

764
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:07,440
Even you, especially you, everyone of you.

765
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:10,440
Especially as people who work in government.

766
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:12,440
Where am I going with this?

767
01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:15,440
Well, look at the tech they use.

768
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:19,440
Facial recognition, data tracking, phone tracking,

769
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:21,440
cameras everywhere.

770
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:24,440
Does that sound familiar?

771
01:14:24,440 --> 01:14:26,440
It should.

772
01:14:26,440 --> 01:14:29,440
You carry everything with that in your pocket.

773
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:34,440
Your entire life, recorded, watched, building a case against you

774
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:36,440
whether you like it or not.

775
01:14:36,440 --> 01:14:38,440
What supports this?

776
01:14:38,440 --> 01:14:43,440
How do you manage this much data?

777
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:45,440
Data centers.

778
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:46,440
It's easy.

779
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:50,440
But we've had data centers since, what, 70s, 80s

780
01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:55,440
to manage the internet and work it?

781
01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:58,440
The tech only grows from here.

782
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:01,440
AI has made leaps in only months.

783
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:05,440
You cannot imagine where it will be in a year,

784
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:08,440
five years or ten years from now.

785
01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:14,440
In 2002, they guessed so much of the surveillance tech.

786
01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:19,440
Even earlier than that in movies that,

787
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:22,440
can't think of it on top of my head, but I'll go on.

788
01:15:22,440 --> 01:15:23,440
You have 30 seconds.

789
01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:24,440
Thank you.

790
01:15:24,440 --> 01:15:28,440
These hyperscale data centers, whether you agree with it or not,

791
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:32,440
will be supporting the mass surveillance state.

792
01:15:32,440 --> 01:15:35,440
Flock cameras are a huge part of that.

793
01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:38,440
And you know exactly where this is going,

794
01:15:38,440 --> 01:15:41,440
tracking every single license plate in and out of the state

795
01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:43,440
where you're going to every doctor's appointment,

796
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:46,440
to every store, everything.

797
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:49,440
And your legacy supports it.

798
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:53,440
Every line crossed that you allow with these data centers

799
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:56,440
that big tech is partnering with governments to do

800
01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:58,440
will be your legacy.

801
01:15:58,440 --> 01:16:02,440
Congratulations.

802
01:16:02,440 --> 01:16:09,440
Thank you.

803
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:10,440
Thank you.

804
01:16:10,440 --> 01:16:11,440
Please continue.

805
01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:14,440
B, communications, petitions, reports of departments.

806
01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:16,440
B, one approval of the following applications.

807
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:17,440
A, 16 operators licenses.

808
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:22,440
B, three special class B beer and or special class B wine licenses.

809
01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:25,440
Gentlemen from 10th.

810
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:26,440
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

811
01:16:26,440 --> 01:16:29,440
I make a motion to concur the recommendation of license

812
01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:32,440
permit to approve B, one.

813
01:16:32,440 --> 01:16:34,440
Any laptops, sir?

814
01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:37,440
I thought I hit it.

815
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:40,440
Moved and seconded to approve item B, one.

816
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:41,440
Any discussion?

817
01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:42,440
Seeing none.

818
01:16:42,440 --> 01:16:43,440
All those in favor say aye.

819
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:44,440
Aye.

820
01:16:44,440 --> 01:16:45,440
Any opposed?

821
01:16:45,440 --> 01:16:46,440
Motion carries.

822
01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:48,440
B, two conditional use permit for a tattoo establishment

823
01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:54,440
located at 4400 Sheridan Road.

824
01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:57,440
Gentlemen from the third.

825
01:16:57,440 --> 01:16:58,440
Thank you.

826
01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:01,440
I move to approve B, two in concurrence with the City

827
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,440
Plan Commission.

828
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:07,440
It's been moved and seconded to concur an item B, two.

829
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:09,440
At this time, open up to a public hearing.

830
01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:11,440
Anyone here speaking item B, two?

831
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:12,440
Please come forward.

832
01:17:12,440 --> 01:17:14,440
State your name and address.

833
01:17:14,440 --> 01:17:18,440
Mitch Braver, 1802 28th street.

834
01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:19,440
Kenosha, Wisconsin.

835
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:20,440
Yeah.

836
01:17:20,440 --> 01:17:21,440
What am I doing?

837
01:17:21,440 --> 01:17:23,440
Sorry about that.

838
01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:25,440
Yeah.

839
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:28,440
I'm here for any questions.

840
01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:29,440
Yep.

841
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:30,440
Okay.

842
01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:33,440
If there are any questions from the council, we'll call you back up.

843
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:34,440
Absolutely.

844
01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:35,440
Thank you so much.

845
01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:36,440
Thank you, sir.

846
01:17:36,440 --> 01:17:38,440
Anyone else here to speak an item B, two?

847
01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:39,440
Anyone else?

848
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:40,440
Anyone else?

849
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:41,440
Seeing none.

850
01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:42,440
Coals of public hearing.

851
01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:45,440
Motion on the floor is concurrence on item B, two.

852
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:47,440
Any discussion?

853
01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:48,440
Seeing none.

854
01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:49,440
All those in favor say aye.

855
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:50,440
Aye.

856
01:17:50,440 --> 01:17:51,440
Any opposed?

857
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:52,440
Motion carries.

858
01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:58,440
Item B, two, three.

859
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:05,440
Item B, two, three.

860
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:10,440
General use permit amendment for a tattoo and body piercing

861
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:19,440
establishment located at 7611 purging Boulevard.

862
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:24,440
and address forty nine twenty five sixty eight street

863
01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:31,000
basically my wife and I we've owned this property seventy six eleven Persian

864
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:36,440
Boulevard for Jamie Waldron operates her gypsy camp gem girls I'm here to

865
01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:41,200
today discuss the recommendation that was made for removing a portion of the

866
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:46,280
parking lot and planter boxes and install some planter boxes I attended

867
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:51,480
Planning Commission or actually Common Council both times with her and we had

868
01:18:51,480 --> 01:18:56,400
spoken to a representative and we were told it was a recommendation he had

869
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,440
advised us that we don't bring it up unless we needed to based on that

870
01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:05,760
guidance we didn't step forward with anything when it came to Jamie getting

871
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,880
her occupancy approval however we were informed that she could not open our

872
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,440
business unless the escrow amount and additional five hundred dollar temporary

873
01:19:13,480 --> 01:19:20,400
occupancy was paid so we helped comply with that we had if we had been

874
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:25,400
presented with this as a requirement instead of a recommendation we would have

875
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:30,360
addressed these immediately so I apologize on that piece of it since

876
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,560
purchasing the property we have made significant improvements to enhance

877
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:37,680
both the appearance and functionality the building has been painted new

878
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,840
shutters installed decorative window of planters and the parking lot has been

879
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,080
recoded we have also made other improvements that comply with city

880
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:49,160
requirements including lowering the sign turning it away from being over the

881
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:54,680
sidewalks we've invested considerable considerable amount of time and money in

882
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,720
improving the property and we believe those efforts demonstrate our commitment

883
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:03,480
to maintaining and extract an attractive well-kept business we're

884
01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:08,360
respectfully requesting that an acceptance that would allow us to leave

885
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:13,480
the remaining leave the parking lot as it is the parking lot already has very

886
01:20:13,480 --> 01:20:18,240
limited and extremely tight maneuvering spaces removing pavement to install

887
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:24,040
planter boxes and landscaping features would create several concerns first it

888
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:28,760
would present a first safety issue raised planters or similar permanent

889
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,160
structures would create a tripping hazards when customers step out of the

890
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:37,040
vehicles second because of the tight parking configuration any planters or

891
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,280
landscaping features would likely be struck by a vehicle on a regular basis

892
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:45,640
continuing continuing causing continual damage and maintenance issues while we

893
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:50,680
understand the city's goal is to approve the appearance of the property we believe

894
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,720
we've already accomplished this objective objective through an extensive

895
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,480
exterior improvements that we have made third as shown in the photographs I did

896
01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:05,240
bring some if anybody wanted them or wanted to pass them out

897
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:13,400
the photographs shows vehicles already require multiple back and forth

898
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:18,160
movements just to exit the parking space adding a permanent obstruction would

899
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:23,720
significantly reduce the maneuverability and caught and could make some parking

900
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:30,160
spaces impractable or unusable for customers finally snow removal would

901
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:34,880
become extremely difficult because of the limited space plowing the parking lot

902
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,720
is already a challenge installing permanent landscaping within the

903
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,080
parking area would create additional obstacles and increase the likelihood

904
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:46,920
of property damage during winter maintenance in closing I respectfully

905
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:51,760
ask the Commission to consider these facts when making the decision we

906
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:58,360
requested is a we request is reasonably given the limited parking lot size the

907
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:03,000
existing maneuverability constraints this the substantial improvements we have

908
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:07,120
already made to the property and the fact that we relied on understanding that it

909
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:11,360
was a recommendation versus a rent mandatory requirement thank you and if

910
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:16,520
you have any questions I'm here to answer thank you sir anyone else on item B3

911
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:21,280
from the public anyone else anyone else seeing none closed the public hearing

912
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:30,880
Mr. Casey sir if I'm not mistaken that that condition was removed at City

913
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:35,320
Planning Commission correct I was not at that meeting mayor but in looking at the

914
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:40,880
report yes okay condition duty the conditions approved require to remove

915
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,360
the asphalt in the striped area around the existing sign and replacing it with

916
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:53,120
Mulcher stone and the recommendation was to remove that condition right so I guess

917
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:59,000
it further the applicant and for for Council at City Plan Commission City

918
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:05,560
Plan Commission agreed with the owner or the applicant here to remove that and I

919
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:12,520
would I would ask the council to I would assume that the arm of the 16th

920
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,440
understood that he was there and actually voted for that but that was I'm assuming

921
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:21,640
that was part of your meant to be for your motion so that condition that this

922
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,480
gentleman was asking for relief was already granted via City Plan Commission

923
01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:29,520
I we do need this body to uphold that and I would ask this council to do that

924
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,600
because that is what we did at City Plan Commission and agree with the applicant

925
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,560
correct thank you sir

926
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:42,000
gentleman from a third thank you Ron I was going to make some of the same

927
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:50,160
points you just did basically by approving this we are approving what this

928
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:55,240
gentleman also requested because the condition that he objected to was removed

929
01:23:55,240 --> 01:24:01,960
at the City Plan Commission meeting the reasons were pretty obvious he did a lot

930
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:08,520
of work there and at the same time as your honor is pointed out although that

931
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:14,120
we try to make things when we have new developments etc we try to keep

932
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:19,600
everything to a certain standard it would not been fair in this situation a lot of

933
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:26,080
older places have parking lots and this parking lot would have been really

934
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:31,320
hazardous if they totally complied with this with the conditions that were were

935
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:36,440
proposed thus the City Plan Commission agreed to remove those conditions and

936
01:24:36,440 --> 01:24:42,800
thus when you vote for B3 and if you vote in the affirmative you are voting to

937
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:47,880
basically give this gentleman what he wants as well relief from that condition

938
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:53,920
thank you thank you sir lady from the eighth yeah I'll make this just short and

939
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,800
sweet as elder person of the district I thank the City Plan Commission for

940
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:03,480
voting for this and I'm full in full support thank you ma'am anyone else on

941
01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:09,440
B3 if not motion on the floor is approval vitamin B3 as recommended by City

942
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:15,600
Plan Commission correct all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion

943
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,040
carries see recommendations from the committee on licenses impermit see one

944
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:23,440
application on Michaela wire for a new operator's license

945
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,200
gentlemen from intent thank you mr. Mayor make a motion to concur with the

946
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:34,240
recommendation license permit any additional ones mr. Chairman not yet sir

947
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:40,520
all right so okay at this time open up to a hearing anyone here speaking

948
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:44,560
item C1 please come forward state your name and address anyone here to speak

949
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:49,080
anyone here speak seeing none close the hearing motion on the floor is

950
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:53,640
concurrence it's a license permit any discussion seeing none all those in

951
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:58,440
favor say aye any opposed motion carries see to application of Brandon per

952
01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:02,640
domo for a new operators license gentlemen from the 10th thank you mr.

953
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:06,160
Mayor make a motion to deny based on material police records safely related

954
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,720
to the license

955
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,400
we've been seconded to would that be to concur with license permit

956
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:17,600
recommendations sir yes sir okay at this time open up to a hearing

957
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,080
and we hear speaking item C2 please come forward say to your name and

958
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,400
address

959
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:35,880
well I'm sorry I'm sorry one second I'm sorry good okay my name is Francis

960
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:45,880
flex 2831 14 lane Kenosha I am Brandon's mom sorry he just went to the

961
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:55,800
bedroom I would like to speak for him if I can sure sure nobody knows better

962
01:26:55,800 --> 01:27:04,200
than me the struggles the bad that's bad decisions choices he made but nobody

963
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:11,920
knows better than me the progress and how proud I am right now to see the better

964
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:20,920
decisions and the improvement I'm talking about you I just don't want to let this

965
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:31,840
pass so I am very very confident that he deserve to get the license so he can

966
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:36,400
keep working in something he's good at it thank you man Brandon can we get your

967
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:41,240
name and address for the record yeah Brandon per domo 2831 14th lane Kenosha

968
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:46,200
Wisconsin I want to start by saying I wasn't here last Monday when I was

969
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,080
supposed to be because I was at work I got out late so I didn't really get to

970
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:54,600
speak or anything so start by just kind of saying I know at a glance looking at

971
01:27:54,600 --> 01:28:00,680
it looks kind of bad looks pretty bad I'm aware of that I am I'm aware of the

972
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:06,440
mistakes I've made and it's not any excuses or anything but at least some

973
01:28:06,440 --> 01:28:13,080
context to kind of what happened when I was 21 my girlfriend passed away and I

974
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:18,560
got very very depressed and very lots of issues with addiction and lots of other

975
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,960
things and it took a long time I didn't want to get better honestly and if you

976
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:28,760
look at the record that's from 2022 to 24 was everything happened and that was

977
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:34,400
during the time where I didn't want to be here I didn't want to be alive and you

978
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,960
know I started working as I've worked in restaurants my whole life I start

979
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:43,080
working as a bartender supervised and kind of helped me get sober and I mean I

980
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:49,320
have a lot of supporting documents here from my clinic where I've been sober for

981
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:55,560
almost two years it'll be two years in December I even have the diagnosis from

982
01:28:55,560 --> 01:29:00,840
my therapist and my psychiatrist stating that it was mostly a situational kind of

983
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:05,800
problem that was going on due to what had happened and I even have discharge

984
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:10,360
papers showing like my risk level and everything at the time I got discharged

985
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:14,800
that was two years ago that was in December 2024 I mean since then I've

986
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:19,560
been working I have my associates degree in audio science and engineering and you

987
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,440
know it's hard because every time you try to move forward you're reminded of

988
01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:28,120
the mistakes you made it's hard because it's like a wall every single time every

989
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:33,280
turn I take to laughter to the right to try to go forward something trying to

990
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,640
stop me at least that sort of feels like and I know those are my own mistakes but

991
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,440
it's hard when you're trying to do better and trying to do the thing you like

992
01:29:40,440 --> 01:29:44,480
because it's been really hard to find something I like and I feel like I am

993
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:47,360
good at it I even have letters of recommendations in here I don't know if

994
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:53,640
anyone wants to look at all this but yeah I mean I don't really have too much

995
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,480
else to say besides that I guess other than thank you guys for your time

996
01:29:56,480 --> 01:30:04,720
consideration and I understand either way thank you sir any anyone else on

997
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:12,080
item C2 anyone else anyone else if not closer hearing a gentleman from the

998
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:24,200
16th or okay yes I'm I share that committee the applicant came in after the

999
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:31,160
vote was taken he had a work it wasn't his fault but we we had voted on it

1000
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,360
already to deny

1001
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:39,760
granted there's 400 points but every applicant deserves a right to a hearing

1002
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:47,720
so I like to this to be deferred put back into the committee so he can get

1003
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:53,640
committees that I make a motion to send back to committee yes been moved and

1004
01:30:53,640 --> 01:31:00,200
seconded to send this back to license permit on that motion to send back to

1005
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:06,400
committee all those in favor say aye any post motion carries this will be at the

1006
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:10,580
following a license permit me

1007
01:31:11,460 --> 01:31:17,700
C3 application of Nakia Brookshire for a yearly peddler stand located at 28 2014

1008
01:31:17,700 --> 01:31:20,500
Babynae with no adverse recommendations from the police department

1009
01:31:20,500 --> 01:31:28,580
gentlemen from the 10th thank you Mr. Mayor I make a motion to approve C3 C4 C5

1010
01:31:28,580 --> 01:31:37,340
C6 after being read any necessary applicant hearings through C5

1011
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:46,260
C4 application of auto express services AES auto and towing LLC for a new towing

1012
01:31:46,260 --> 01:31:51,060
service license located at 6432nd Avenue with an adverse recommendation from

1013
01:31:51,060 --> 01:31:55,380
the police department C5 applications for a temporary outdoor extension of the

1014
01:31:55,380 --> 01:31:58,500
class B beer class B liquor license with no adverse recommendations from the

1015
01:31:58,500 --> 01:32:03,220
police department a Bendelli's adventure Inc located at 4601 7th Avenue on

1016
01:32:03,220 --> 01:32:09,860
September 18th through 19th 2026 B bottoms up ventures Inc located at 1402 52nd

1017
01:32:09,860 --> 01:32:16,180
Street on August 21st through 23rd 2026 C Kenosha creative space Inc located

1018
01:32:16,180 --> 01:32:22,860
at 624 57th Street on August 21st through 23rd 2026 with a waiver request of

1019
01:32:22,860 --> 01:32:31,260
10.0 75 D3 by the common council under 10.0 75 I okay at this time open up to a

1020
01:32:31,260 --> 01:32:36,860
hearing anyone here speak and I am C3 4 or 5 please come forward state your

1021
01:32:36,860 --> 01:32:42,420
name and address anyone here to speak anyone here to speak

1022
01:32:45,340 --> 01:32:51,620
Hello Brian Johnson for C4 2832 14th Lane I'm the owner of EAS sewing I'm

1023
01:32:51,620 --> 01:32:58,540
here for any questions if there are any questions thank you sir

1024
01:32:58,540 --> 01:33:05,540
anyone else on C3 4 5 anyone else anyone else seeing none closing hearing

1025
01:33:05,540 --> 01:33:13,060
motion on the floor is concurrence is that correct mr. Chair any discussion

1026
01:33:13,060 --> 01:33:19,100
seeing none all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion carries C6

1027
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:23,940
application of salon Diamante LLC for a new class B beer reserved class B liquor

1028
01:33:23,940 --> 01:33:28,940
license located at 6712 30th Avenue upon surrender of a class B beer class C

1029
01:33:28,940 --> 01:33:33,260
liquor license from salon Diamante LLC with no adverse recommendations from

1030
01:33:33,260 --> 01:33:37,180
the police department gentlemen from the 10th thank you mr. Mayor I make a

1031
01:33:37,180 --> 01:33:45,100
motion to approve and in that motion is the waving of the main entrance 300

1032
01:33:45,100 --> 01:33:51,900
foot waiver okay at this I'm open up to a hearing anyone here speaking item C6

1033
01:33:51,900 --> 01:33:55,940
please come forward say your name and address

1034
01:33:55,940 --> 01:34:03,700
Alvar Rodriguez my address is 1721 50th string Kenosha

1035
01:34:05,620 --> 01:34:09,740
the floor is yours ma'am if anything you'd like to say to the council on this

1036
01:34:09,740 --> 01:34:20,500
on this item well I'm applying for the liquor because the parties of weddings

1037
01:34:20,500 --> 01:34:29,060
and baby showers sometimes they wanna drink and that's why since they changed

1038
01:34:29,060 --> 01:34:40,660
the rules of the house well I got a feeling there's gonna be some questions

1039
01:34:40,660 --> 01:34:44,740
from the council so if you want to have a seat if you don't have anything else

1040
01:34:44,740 --> 01:34:50,500
to say there may be some questions from council okay thank you ma'am anyone

1041
01:34:50,500 --> 01:34:57,700
else and I'm C6 anyone else anyone else seeing none close to hearing lady from

1042
01:34:57,700 --> 01:35:04,260
the 12th in the meeting committee meeting I voted against this because my concern

1043
01:35:04,260 --> 01:35:10,700
was the exit of people if there was a fire and while I understand that the

1044
01:35:10,700 --> 01:35:16,860
order from the 8th district has shown me pictures where they have two exits but

1045
01:35:16,860 --> 01:35:21,820
then they also have a lift there and then but that still doesn't ease my concern

1046
01:35:21,820 --> 01:35:25,820
because if there's a fire and there's I'm not even sure what the occupancy is

1047
01:35:25,820 --> 01:35:29,420
but then if there's people in there that need to get out and they're using the

1048
01:35:29,420 --> 01:35:39,140
lift that brings even more concern so my my vote will still be a no thank you

1049
01:35:41,620 --> 01:35:48,860
lady from the 8th thank you I have the chance to meet with Miss Rodriguez last

1050
01:35:48,860 --> 01:35:54,900
week who owns the building which is the former St. Luke's Lutheran Church she

1051
01:35:54,900 --> 01:35:59,420
rents out the sanctuary to a congregation and it's part of their rental

1052
01:35:59,420 --> 01:36:03,380
agreement that the hall will not be rented while the congregation holds

1053
01:36:03,380 --> 01:36:09,700
church services and other activities the rental hall does have multiple exits on

1054
01:36:10,140 --> 01:36:15,180
opposite ends of the space it's on the lower level of the old Sunday school

1055
01:36:15,180 --> 01:36:21,540
space which I would describe as a split level not a basement the space has a

1056
01:36:21,540 --> 01:36:27,380
wall of windows above ground on both the east and the west side Mr. Rodriguez is

1057
01:36:27,380 --> 01:36:32,940
also purchased the parking lot and a house across 30th Avenue and a lot east

1058
01:36:32,940 --> 01:36:38,500
of the building on 67th Street the property is well maintained she's

1059
01:36:38,540 --> 01:36:44,460
received numerous appreciative comments from her neighbors and her request for

1060
01:36:44,460 --> 01:36:50,340
this license all stems from a change in state law she has come before us many

1061
01:36:50,340 --> 01:36:56,580
of times attempting to acquire the proper licenses to continue to operate

1062
01:36:56,580 --> 01:37:01,900
her business and I'm asking for your support of Miss Rodriguez and the

1063
01:37:01,900 --> 01:37:10,540
issuance of this license thank you gentlemen from a 16th yeah a couple of

1064
01:37:10,540 --> 01:37:16,020
things when in front of the committee it was tied to two so that should have

1065
01:37:16,020 --> 01:37:21,260
been under she tonight as a denial right if it's a tie it should be a

1066
01:37:21,260 --> 01:37:29,380
denial it says we approved that it was a tie so a tie is a denial I got a

1067
01:37:29,380 --> 01:37:37,700
question for madam clerk yeah as was stated at the meeting it's a no

1068
01:37:37,700 --> 01:37:43,540
recommendation from the council now the the motion was to approve that motion

1069
01:37:43,540 --> 01:37:49,340
failed right now it's a effectively a no recommendation from the license permit

1070
01:37:49,340 --> 01:37:55,060
committee but yeah it says license LP approved that was the motion that was

1071
01:37:55,100 --> 01:38:06,540
made yes sir I got you okay madam clerk the reserve can you shine light for the

1072
01:38:06,540 --> 01:38:12,620
rest of our council about the reserve license how much it costs how many are

1073
01:38:12,620 --> 01:38:24,700
available so on and so forth so we have a total of 39 reserve licenses which can

1074
01:38:24,700 --> 01:38:30,060
be issued after we've reached our quota on regular class be liquor licenses which

1075
01:38:30,060 --> 01:38:36,700
we have and we have currently issued seven so we have 32 remaining and the

1076
01:38:36,700 --> 01:38:48,300
issuance fee is ten thousand dollars thank you yeah I voted I voted no and I'm

1077
01:38:48,300 --> 01:39:00,140
gonna vote no also tonight it's an old church building this party venue is

1078
01:39:00,140 --> 01:39:05,660
certainly not on the first floor some people call it the basement some people

1079
01:39:05,660 --> 01:39:14,180
call it different things but it's I call it the basement because it's not on the

1080
01:39:14,340 --> 01:39:19,980
floor there's a church in a school this is in the basement of the old school

1081
01:39:19,980 --> 01:39:26,420
part of the of the establishment the applicants willing to spend ten thousand

1082
01:39:26,420 --> 01:39:32,740
dollars this is a venue situation it's not it's not a tavern it's a venue they

1083
01:39:32,740 --> 01:39:38,580
have venues marriage wedding so on and so forth so I held there but I know

1084
01:39:38,580 --> 01:39:44,900
she's willing to spend ten thousand dollars for this license but the situation

1085
01:39:44,900 --> 01:39:51,860
and the location of it and the layout of it that's one of the reasons that that

1086
01:39:51,860 --> 01:39:58,300
I'm not I'm not for it so I won't be supported in it tonight thank you thank

1087
01:39:58,300 --> 01:40:03,580
you sir gentlemen from the first thank you based on the comments from the lady

1088
01:40:03,900 --> 01:40:10,500
from the 12th and also gentlemen the 16th I would assume that there's no

1089
01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:15,300
holds right based on this lifestyle subject to hold so do we have from an

1090
01:40:15,300 --> 01:40:21,420
emergency egress standpoint do we have chief here who can speak that I would

1091
01:40:21,420 --> 01:40:26,460
assume that if it's not conformed from the standpoint of emergency egress and

1092
01:40:26,460 --> 01:40:31,580
other code compliance things associated with the activity then I guess we'd have

1093
01:40:31,580 --> 01:40:35,500
a story here but I would think I would think we don't

1094
01:40:35,500 --> 01:40:40,940
the story is that in the lady from the 12th opinion is that she's not

1095
01:40:40,940 --> 01:40:46,380
comfortable with the egress I don't know if I'm stating that correctly man I hope

1096
01:40:46,380 --> 01:40:51,340
we understand that we have inspection and rules in place for for things like

1097
01:40:51,340 --> 01:40:56,300
emergency egress from everything from our own people to NFPA standard so I guess

1098
01:40:56,300 --> 01:40:59,700
I'm curious more than there's more to the story than that I guess I'd be

1099
01:40:59,740 --> 01:41:03,580
willing to listen but it as long as our code compliant and conforming for the

1100
01:41:03,580 --> 01:41:09,060
license activity I can't see your reason that that would be something to

1101
01:41:09,060 --> 01:41:12,860
consider thank you or the motion on the floor is to approve at this point sir

1102
01:41:12,860 --> 01:41:16,180
thank you thank you for

1103
01:41:16,180 --> 01:41:23,220
gentlemen from a second oh yes I was one of the two votes to vote to approve I

1104
01:41:23,740 --> 01:41:29,340
would urge the rest of the council to do the same I asked that question if the

1105
01:41:29,340 --> 01:41:35,060
fire department had had a look around and they had no issues with with her

1106
01:41:35,060 --> 01:41:43,940
business model so I'm satisfied that it's not a public safety hazard and once

1107
01:41:43,940 --> 01:41:50,020
again this this is a it's a it's a business model that we're not that

1108
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:54,100
familiar with because previously they weren't required to be licensed through

1109
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:58,020
the state but the change in liquor law says if you're going to host any sort of

1110
01:41:58,020 --> 01:42:02,940
party you have to have a liquor license she feels strongly enough in her

1111
01:42:02,940 --> 01:42:08,660
business plan to spend that ten thousand dollars and this is a way for her to be

1112
01:42:08,660 --> 01:42:14,900
legitimate because there's probably some operators aren't there we haven't been

1113
01:42:14,940 --> 01:42:21,300
notified maybe they're maybe they're operating out of the light of proper

1114
01:42:21,300 --> 01:42:28,100
licensure but we're trying to encourage responsible licensure in this town and

1115
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:32,820
she's making the effort to do so I'd much rather face this sort of a situation

1116
01:42:32,820 --> 01:42:39,020
than a scofflaw of some sort she's patiently been pretending meetings for

1117
01:42:39,100 --> 01:42:46,580
about two months this council and licensed in permits looking for a way to stay

1118
01:42:46,580 --> 01:42:51,460
in business and I can graduate later for that I know it's a church building but

1119
01:42:51,460 --> 01:42:56,660
she owns the building she rents it out to a church and if she was to hold a

1120
01:42:56,660 --> 01:43:03,100
party in violation of her of her own tenant agreement well she's just not

1121
01:43:03,100 --> 01:43:09,820
going to do that so I urge the council to support this application I support

1122
01:43:09,820 --> 01:43:15,820
the motion thank you thank you sir seeing no other lights motion on the

1123
01:43:15,820 --> 01:43:22,420
floor is approval of item c6 with the waiver of the 300 feet correct Mr.

1124
01:43:22,420 --> 01:43:32,060
Chairman Mr. Chairman thank you sir roll calls been asked for roll call please

1125
01:43:32,060 --> 01:43:49,420
motion carries 15 to 2 item c7 applications of the coffee pot LLC located

1126
01:43:49,420 --> 01:43:52,780
at 4914 7th Avenue with no adverse recommendations from the police

1127
01:43:52,780 --> 01:43:58,620
department a new class B beer class C liquor license B probationary cabaret

1128
01:43:58,620 --> 01:44:03,980
license C permanent outdoor extension gentlemen from the 10th thank you Mr.

1129
01:44:03,980 --> 01:44:08,180
I make a motion to approve C7 C8 after being read any necessary applicant

1130
01:44:08,180 --> 01:44:14,580
hearings C8 application of order what you want LLC for an outdoor dining area

1131
01:44:14,580 --> 01:44:18,780
with extension of the class B beer class B liquor license located at 508 58th

1132
01:44:18,780 --> 01:44:22,620
Street with no adverse recommendations from the police department okay at the

1133
01:44:22,620 --> 01:44:27,180
time open up to a hearing anyone here speaking item C7 or C8 please come

1134
01:44:27,180 --> 01:44:35,420
forward state your name and address anyone here speak any one yes Pablo

1135
01:44:35,420 --> 01:44:40,900
and Diana Scribano 2005 35th place regarding C8 we're just here for any

1136
01:44:40,900 --> 01:44:48,300
questions thank you sir anyone else on C7 or C8 anyone else anyone else seeing

1137
01:44:48,300 --> 01:44:53,980
none close in hearing motion on the floor is approval of C7 and C8 any

1138
01:44:53,980 --> 01:44:58,820
discussion seeing none all those in favor say aye aye any opposed motion

1139
01:44:58,820 --> 01:45:04,660
carries e ordinances first reading e1 ordinance by the committee on public

1140
01:45:04,660 --> 01:45:08,500
safety and welfare to amend section 7.125 of the code of general ordinances

1141
01:45:08,500 --> 01:45:17,540
entitled streets controlled by you actually did we vote on it they vote on C8 we

1142
01:45:17,540 --> 01:45:21,740
didn't both thank you all right e1 ordinance by the committee on public

1143
01:45:21,740 --> 01:45:25,540
safety and welfare to amend section 7.125 of the code of general ordinances

1144
01:45:25,540 --> 01:45:29,660
entitled streets controlled by yield signs by rescinding there from the

1145
01:45:29,660 --> 01:45:33,820
yield signs on 54th Avenue at its intersection with 41st Street and to

1146
01:45:33,820 --> 01:45:38,860
include Easton Westbound yield signs on 41st Street and 54th Avenue jump from

1147
01:45:38,860 --> 01:45:48,900
5th motion to send e1 e2 and e3 about F1 and F1 e2 ordinance by the

1148
01:45:48,900 --> 01:45:52,580
committee on public safety and welfare to amend section 7.12 C of the code of

1149
01:45:52,580 --> 01:45:57,380
general ordinances entitled stop streets to include a cell phone stop at the

1150
01:45:57,380 --> 01:46:03,500
intersection of 25th Avenue and 55th Street e3 ordinance by the committee on

1151
01:46:03,500 --> 01:46:07,340
public safety and welfare to amend section 7.12 C of the code of general

1152
01:46:07,340 --> 01:46:11,160
ordinances entitled stop streets by adding Easton West stop signs at 40th

1153
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:15,060
Street and 32nd Avenue F zoning ordinances first reading F1

1154
01:46:15,060 --> 01:46:18,180
rezoning ordinance by the City Planning Commission to rezone the property at

1155
01:46:18,180 --> 01:46:23,420
3719 25th Street from a to agricultural and holding district RS1 single family

1156
01:46:23,420 --> 01:46:29,860
residential district okay motion and bless you to send e1 through F1 on

1157
01:46:29,860 --> 01:46:34,180
their way any discussion seeing none all those have ever say aye aye any opposed

1158
01:46:34,180 --> 01:46:39,900
motion carries g orness is second reading g1 ordinance by the mayor to

1159
01:46:39,900 --> 01:46:43,300
repeal and recreate sub paragraph 1.01 d1 e regarding the 5th

1160
01:46:43,340 --> 01:46:45,780
aldermanic district for the purpose of adding Ward 102

1161
01:46:47,860 --> 01:46:51,060
gentlemen from 13th move to concur with the finance committee

1162
01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:53,300
recommendation to approve g1

1163
01:46:57,300 --> 01:47:00,660
mr chairman sorry about that

1164
01:47:02,940 --> 01:47:07,020
woman seconded to approve item or concur with finance committee

1165
01:47:07,020 --> 01:47:11,740
recommendation g1 at this time open up to a public hearing anyone here to

1166
01:47:11,780 --> 01:47:15,740
speak an item g1 please come forward state your name and address anyone here

1167
01:47:15,740 --> 01:47:19,900
speak anyone here speak seeing none close the public hearing motion on the

1168
01:47:19,900 --> 01:47:24,780
floor is concurrence any discussion seeing none all is the favorable vote aye

1169
01:47:24,780 --> 01:47:26,300
those opposed no rule call please

1170
01:47:26,300 --> 01:47:44,940
motion carries 17 to 0 h zoning ordinance is second reading h1's ordinance by the

1171
01:47:44,940 --> 01:47:48,260
mayor attachment and zoning district classification ordinance under section

1172
01:47:48,260 --> 01:47:52,780
66.0307 Wisconsin statutes city of Kenosha town of summer state approved

1173
01:47:52,780 --> 01:47:56,860
cooperative plan 37 19 25th street town of summers

1174
01:47:58,700 --> 01:48:00,860
gentleman from 5th a commotion to approve

1175
01:48:03,580 --> 01:48:09,260
spend moved and seconded to approve item b h1 at the same open up to a public

1176
01:48:09,260 --> 01:48:13,260
hearing anyone here speaking on h1 please come forward state your name and

1177
01:48:13,260 --> 01:48:18,300
address anyone here speak anyone here speak seeing none close the public hearing

1178
01:48:18,380 --> 01:48:22,380
motion on the floor is approval any discussion

1179
01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:24,540
seeing none roll call please

1180
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:35,260
motion carries 17 to 0 aye resolutions aye one resolutions by the committee on

1181
01:48:35,260 --> 01:48:41,100
finance to levy special charges a trash and debris removal $4,985.33

1182
01:48:41,100 --> 01:48:45,900
be grass and weed cutting $3,700 64 cents see property maintenance

1183
01:48:45,900 --> 01:48:49,100
re-inspection fees $13,152

1184
01:48:49,100 --> 01:48:54,460
t building and zoning re-inspection fees $976 finance recommended to approve 6 to 0

1185
01:48:55,180 --> 01:49:00,620
gentleman front 13th move to approve i1 as recommended by finance committee

1186
01:49:05,660 --> 01:49:10,380
moving and seconded to concur with finance and i1 that's a sample open up to a hearing

1187
01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:14,620
anyone here speaking on i1 please come forward state your name and address

1188
01:49:14,620 --> 01:49:19,580
anyone here speak anyone here speak seeing none close the hearing motion on the floor is

1189
01:49:19,580 --> 01:49:23,100
concurrence any discussion seeing none roll call please

1190
01:49:29,740 --> 01:49:33,900
motion carries 17 to 0 aye two resolution by the committee on public works to order the

1191
01:49:33,900 --> 01:49:37,820
cost of public sidewalk and or driveway approach construction and a replacement

1192
01:49:37,820 --> 01:49:42,940
to be specially assessed to a budding property for project 26-1043 73rd street in

1193
01:49:42,940 --> 01:49:46,700
24-7 and resurfacing public works recommended to approve 6 to 0

1194
01:49:47,660 --> 01:49:54,140
lady from the eighth yes i make a motion to concur with the public works committee to approve i2

1195
01:49:58,140 --> 01:50:03,020
it's been moved and seconded to concur with public works on i2 at this time open up to a public hearing

1196
01:50:03,820 --> 01:50:07,420
anyone here speaking item i2 please come forward state your name and address

1197
01:50:07,420 --> 01:50:12,940
anyone here to speak anyone here speak seeing none close the public hearing motion on the floor

1198
01:50:12,940 --> 01:50:16,860
is concurrence any discussion seeing none roll call please

1199
01:50:16,860 --> 01:50:32,700
all the person on the machia motion carries 17 to 0 i3 resolution by the mayor to amend

1200
01:50:32,700 --> 01:50:38,620
the official map for the city of kenosha bisconsin to include the attachment of 3719 25th street

1201
01:50:39,500 --> 01:50:43,260
in the town of summers kenosha county wisconsin in accordance with the approved city of kenosha

1202
01:50:43,260 --> 01:50:47,820
town of summers co-operative plan under section 66.0307 of the wisconsin statutes

1203
01:50:50,300 --> 01:50:54,460
chairman from fifth i motion to approve please

1204
01:51:01,100 --> 01:51:06,300
it's been moved and seconded to approve item b or i3 at this time open up to a public hearing

1205
01:51:06,940 --> 01:51:10,540
anyone here speaking item i3 please come forward state your name and address

1206
01:51:10,620 --> 01:51:16,060
anyone here to speak anyone here speak seeing none close the public hearing motion on the floor

1207
01:51:16,060 --> 01:51:19,660
is approval any discussion seeing none roll call please

1208
01:51:25,740 --> 01:51:31,660
motion carries 17 to 0 k public construction and improvement contracts k1 a word of contract for

1209
01:51:31,660 --> 01:51:39,420
project 26-1043 73rd street and 21st avenue resurfacing to a w oaks and sun ink in the amount of

1210
01:51:39,420 --> 01:51:45,100
$409,800 public works in stormwater utility recommended to approve six to zero

1211
01:51:49,020 --> 01:51:55,180
sorry lady from the eighth yes i make a motion to concur with the public works committee to

1212
01:51:55,180 --> 01:52:02,140
approve k1 moved and second to concur with public works in k1 any discussion

1213
01:52:02,940 --> 01:52:04,300
seeing none roll call please

1214
01:52:10,540 --> 01:52:16,780
motion carries 17 to 0 l other contracts and agreements l1 combination affidavit to combine

1215
01:52:16,780 --> 01:52:21,020
six city owned parcels located between sixth avenue and seventh avenue and 54th street and

1216
01:52:21,020 --> 01:52:25,180
55th street into one parcel finance recommended to approve six to zero

1217
01:52:25,580 --> 01:52:33,260
gentlemen from 13th thank you mr mayor i'm moved to confer what the finance committee

1218
01:52:33,260 --> 01:52:35,260
recommendation to approve l1

1219
01:52:38,380 --> 01:52:41,740
moved and seconded to approve item l1 any discussion

1220
01:52:42,620 --> 01:52:43,900
seeing none roll call please

1221
01:52:44,620 --> 01:52:59,020
motion carries 17 to 0 l2 construction administrative services agreement by in between the city of

1222
01:52:59,020 --> 01:53:04,140
konosha department of public works and Nielsen madson and barber for authentic black hawk

1223
01:53:04,140 --> 01:53:10,620
ridge public works recommended to approve six to zero lady from the eighth yes i moved to

1224
01:53:11,180 --> 01:53:19,180
concur with the public works committee to approve items l1 l2 i'm sorry l2 and l3 after being read

1225
01:53:21,580 --> 01:53:26,700
l3 first revision state municipal financial agreement for shared and road from 75th street

1226
01:53:26,700 --> 01:53:30,300
to succeed first street public works recommended to approve six to zero

1227
01:53:31,980 --> 01:53:36,300
okay motion and floor is concurrence of public works l2 and l3 any discussion

1228
01:53:37,100 --> 01:53:39,100
seeing none roll call please

1229
01:53:47,980 --> 01:53:57,580
other person for reef motion carries 17 to 0 l4 bjafy 2025 edward burn memorial justice

1230
01:53:58,940 --> 01:54:03,420
assistance grant program intern governmental agreement by in between the city of konosha

1231
01:54:03,420 --> 01:54:08,060
wisconsin and the county of konosha wisconsin finance recommended to approve six to zero

1232
01:54:08,700 --> 01:54:09,740
challenge front thirteenth

1233
01:54:10,860 --> 01:54:17,020
move to uh um concur with the finance committee recommendation to approve l4

1234
01:54:18,860 --> 01:54:21,740
move and second to concur on l4 any discussion

1235
01:54:22,380 --> 01:54:23,740
seeing none roll call please

1236
01:54:24,140 --> 01:54:34,540
motion carries 17 to 0 l5 professional services agreement by in between msa

1237
01:54:34,540 --> 01:54:38,540
professional services ink and the city of konosha from mckinley school site development

1238
01:54:39,180 --> 01:54:42,940
public works and stormwater utility recommended to approve six to zero

1239
01:54:45,820 --> 01:54:52,460
uh oh lady from the eighth yes i moved to concur with the public works committee to

1240
01:54:52,460 --> 01:54:53,500
approve l5

1241
01:54:55,340 --> 01:55:00,060
it's been moving and seconded to approve item l5 any discussion

1242
01:55:01,020 --> 01:55:02,860
seeing none roll call please

1243
01:55:11,260 --> 01:55:16,620
motion carries 17 to 0 m recommendations from the committee on finance m1 request to

1244
01:55:16,620 --> 01:55:21,980
rescind 2025 union park october fest invoice finance recommended to approve four to two

1245
01:55:22,780 --> 01:55:28,780
gentlemen from the thirteenth move to concur to concur with the finance committee recommendation

1246
01:55:28,780 --> 01:55:29,900
to approve m1

1247
01:55:31,900 --> 01:55:36,460
moved and seconded to concur with finance on m1 at this time open up to a hearing

1248
01:55:37,180 --> 01:55:40,940
anyone here speaking on an m1 please come forward state your name and address

1249
01:55:41,740 --> 01:55:49,660
a good evening bendy smith 6703 seventh avenue speaking tonight on behalf of mgv harmonia

1250
01:55:50,300 --> 01:55:52,940
the sponsor of the event thank you

1251
01:55:54,300 --> 01:56:00,140
thank you sir anyone else on item m1 anyone else anyone else seeing none

1252
01:56:01,740 --> 01:56:04,300
close the hearing lady from a 12

1253
01:56:05,180 --> 01:56:11,100
i voted against this um during the committee committee meeting i don't have anything against

1254
01:56:11,100 --> 01:56:18,380
union park i love the fish fries there um but i i voted no against it because of the time that

1255
01:56:18,380 --> 01:56:24,380
it took for this to come back because if it was an oversight i think it should have been done

1256
01:56:24,380 --> 01:56:34,140
way before now i guess if i can help um all the person that's not that's on us again

1257
01:56:34,460 --> 01:56:40,060
from our standpoint and the um process was something we missed until it was brought forward and then

1258
01:56:40,060 --> 01:56:45,580
it was just trying to get it scheduled to come back for to allow the applicant to have a hearing

1259
01:56:46,540 --> 01:56:51,980
but that oversight was on was on our part um and yeah i would have liked to have gotten it back

1260
01:56:51,980 --> 01:56:55,980
here uh several weeks ago there's just some other things that were going on just didn't get a

1261
01:56:55,980 --> 01:56:59,660
chance to do that and wanted to make sure that we gave the applicant an opportunity to

1262
01:56:59,660 --> 01:57:04,220
have their hearing and be able to move forward gentlemen from the 17th

1263
01:57:05,820 --> 01:57:11,260
thank you your honor um i was also a no-vote along with my colleague from the 12th district

1264
01:57:12,220 --> 01:57:19,980
my reasoning was as well it was just too long and when i dug deep into the uh file here

1265
01:57:20,780 --> 01:57:23,580
you know i i mentioned to the financial uh

1266
01:57:24,460 --> 01:57:30,380
um committee that i'm a kind of a fiscal conservative if i run my household like that my

1267
01:57:30,380 --> 01:57:36,540
businesses like that and i look at every dollar and when we see rescind on the petition i looked

1268
01:57:36,540 --> 01:57:45,180
at it a little closer um i looked at the application they submitted says it's for profit and when i

1269
01:57:45,180 --> 01:57:51,980
reached out to the parks department she uh indicated that actually we mischarged them it should have

1270
01:57:52,060 --> 01:57:57,660
been uh one thousand three hundred and ten dollars and so we actually gave them a discount on the bill

1271
01:58:00,220 --> 01:58:05,980
now i looked at the letter as well i talked to laura gogrowski after the meeting the finance

1272
01:58:05,980 --> 01:58:11,900
meeting said some questions she straightened some of them out and a lot of it was involved with

1273
01:58:11,900 --> 01:58:18,060
the sister city while we also have a sister city from italy we also had an italian fest last year

1274
01:58:18,140 --> 01:58:24,140
that uh brought in 20 000 people according to the president of the ia fest

1275
01:58:25,180 --> 01:58:32,140
um they are a 501 3c they paid their application fees they paid their liquor license fees they paid

1276
01:58:32,140 --> 01:58:40,540
for all their fencing um the only thing i'm against is just setting a precedent it listed us as a

1277
01:58:40,540 --> 01:58:46,380
sponsor that's why we actually know it didn't list us as a sponsor the reasoning is we're waving

1278
01:58:46,460 --> 01:58:52,140
this is because we're a sponsor while i looked at the 20 25 list there's 29 sponsored events in

1279
01:58:52,140 --> 01:58:57,820
kenosha that was not listed as one of them it is on the 20 26 list so we're good for this year

1280
01:58:58,460 --> 01:59:04,780
but the problem is from last year i looked at the website kenosha.com co-hosted union part tavern

1281
01:59:04,780 --> 01:59:11,340
and mgv harmonica the vital support from visit kenosha area businesses dedicated sponsors

1282
01:59:12,140 --> 01:59:21,980
doesn't list kenosha city anywhere as a sponsor um this year they've got 22 sponsors listed

1283
01:59:23,260 --> 01:59:26,540
and the last thing i have is the um

1284
01:59:30,620 --> 01:59:36,380
city said it's an oversight i just think there's too many oversights there's an oversight on kenosha.com

1285
01:59:36,380 --> 01:59:44,620
by not listing us as a co-sponsor in 20 25 there was incorrect billing and now 11 months later

1286
01:59:44,620 --> 01:59:50,220
we are looking for a reciting on this so i'm still in no vote again it is nothing new at union

1287
01:59:50,220 --> 01:59:55,180
park it's just setting a precedent moving forward i mean we're gonna have people dig up their

1288
01:59:55,180 --> 01:59:59,180
archives in the last three or four years saying hey you know i think we're a sponsor from the city

1289
01:59:59,180 --> 02:00:04,780
we should rescind this fee and that fee and so that's where i'm standing right now thank you

1290
02:00:05,740 --> 02:00:10,380
thank you sir i guess i would say to the council again anytime i don't care if it's

1291
02:00:11,580 --> 02:00:16,140
six weeks ago or six months ago or six years ago if we identify an error we fix it

1292
02:00:16,780 --> 02:00:21,580
um and that's what we're attempting to do here tonight so again it's up to the council but i would

1293
02:00:21,580 --> 02:00:27,820
again that was it's not on this particular business owner's fault uh it's on the city's fault when

1294
02:00:27,820 --> 02:00:32,700
we're just trying to correct it but ultimately it's up to the council motion on the floor is to

1295
02:00:33,420 --> 02:00:39,740
uh concur with finance which would be to rescind correct okay roll call please

1296
02:00:51,820 --> 02:00:53,500
motion carries 11 to 6

1297
02:00:55,740 --> 02:01:02,300
m2 requests to refund 10 re-inspection fees and the total amount of $3,150 for 4509 30th

1298
02:01:02,300 --> 02:01:05,100
avenue finance recommended to deny six to zero

1299
02:01:05,900 --> 02:01:06,940
tell me from 13th

1300
02:01:08,300 --> 02:01:13,420
thank you uh mr mare i'm moved to concur with the finance committee recommendations

1301
02:01:14,060 --> 02:01:19,420
on m2 m3 m4 m4 and n5 after being read

1302
02:01:22,620 --> 02:01:22,940
second

1303
02:01:26,780 --> 02:01:27,340
m3

1304
02:01:27,900 --> 02:01:28,700
sure after

1305
02:01:29,580 --> 02:01:32,220
yep one second we're just gonna gotta read them off first

1306
02:01:35,260 --> 02:01:40,940
m3 requests to refund one re-inspection fee and the total amount of $72 for 8560 37th avenue

1307
02:01:41,500 --> 02:01:45,900
finance recommended to approve six to zero m4 requests to rescind one re-inspection fee

1308
02:01:45,900 --> 02:01:50,940
and the amount of $72 for 716 51st street finance recommended to approve six to zero

1309
02:01:51,500 --> 02:01:55,580
m5 disbursement record number 14 seven million eight hundred and forty two thousand four hundred

1310
02:01:55,580 --> 02:02:00,860
and ten dollars forty five cents finance recommended to approve six to zero okay at this

1311
02:02:00,860 --> 02:02:08,860
time now we'll open up for a hearing on m2 three four and five if you would like to speak please

1312
02:02:08,860 --> 02:02:16,460
come forward state your name and address on m2 three four five um hi my name is justina

1313
02:02:17,100 --> 02:02:27,180
sontag i live at 220 highland way lake janeeva and i'm the one on m2 regarding the property

1314
02:02:27,180 --> 02:02:35,180
at four five zero nine thirtieth avenue um it was just in the finance meeting that started at like

1315
02:02:35,260 --> 02:02:43,020
six fifteen and everyone voted to not rescind the fees i did pay

1316
02:02:45,660 --> 02:02:53,420
about give or take forty six hundred dollars of fees i'm only asking for the thirty one fifty

1317
02:02:53,420 --> 02:03:04,540
back and yes i did make a mistake and and not send the city my forward in address because i went

1318
02:03:04,540 --> 02:03:13,820
to new jersey to take care of my father's estate my father died i it was a hard situation

1319
02:03:14,460 --> 02:03:22,300
in my life that i was dealing with and i was in new jersey for a while my mail was forwarded

1320
02:03:22,300 --> 02:03:30,380
but i did not get any of this mail and yeah technically you know the letter of the law

1321
02:03:31,100 --> 02:03:38,380
you pay it all which which i did and the thing is these are for inspections that take a minute or

1322
02:03:38,380 --> 02:03:47,260
two because when i found out about the situation when i was selling the property and this was all

1323
02:03:47,260 --> 02:03:55,180
added on it was going to be taken out um you know i saw all the inspection fees i immediately took

1324
02:03:55,180 --> 02:04:01,420
care of the situation within two days i called took care of the situation it was just a fence

1325
02:04:01,420 --> 02:04:07,260
a little area of offense that was fallen over i went out after i hired someone to take care of it

1326
02:04:08,380 --> 02:04:13,820
pulled up to the property it took me less than two minutes to inspect and see that it was taken

1327
02:04:13,820 --> 02:04:21,980
care of so that's the amount of time that was spent on this times ten which and i'm not even

1328
02:04:22,060 --> 02:04:27,180
asking for the other fifteen hundred dollars which i did pay just asking for the three thousand

1329
02:04:27,180 --> 02:04:37,020
one hundred fifty dollars which it was two minutes to inspect this fence because i went and

1330
02:04:37,020 --> 02:04:49,100
inspected it and it's just not financially it's just to me in my budget it's a crazy amount of money

1331
02:04:50,060 --> 02:04:56,700
to spend on that and i get that i should have forwarded it my mail was forwarded from new jersey but

1332
02:04:58,780 --> 02:05:04,380
i didn't get all of it i didn't get these notices the tenant that was there

1333
02:05:05,500 --> 02:05:11,500
did not get the notices she died in december and i was not aware of that she didn't notify me

1334
02:05:11,580 --> 02:05:19,820
that she died and so i did i did not know this there was a squatter in the house who was given

1335
02:05:19,820 --> 02:05:29,980
notices i found out later and he didn't forward forward me these notices so

1336
02:05:32,860 --> 02:05:38,380
i'm just the the thing is to if this was a health hazard if this was a

1337
02:05:39,340 --> 02:05:43,500
risk to the community the situation with the fence that's leaning over

1338
02:05:44,300 --> 02:05:49,180
yeah i'm sure it looked ugly but it wasn't a safety risk it wasn't a health hazard it wasn't

1339
02:05:50,300 --> 02:05:57,260
a big threat to anybody and i paid a lot of the fees and i just

1340
02:06:00,060 --> 02:06:02,060
really have a need for the funds

1341
02:06:02,540 --> 02:06:10,780
um i know the what do you call it the finance committee i think it's called

1342
02:06:11,340 --> 02:06:14,140
that mean i went to i know they recommend you know

1343
02:06:15,660 --> 02:06:21,740
forget it she didn't do the right thing she didn't take care of this but it's not up to them

1344
02:06:22,780 --> 02:06:31,020
they're five people it's up to the votes of everyone else here is what i found out

1345
02:06:31,100 --> 02:06:32,620
today and

1346
02:06:35,260 --> 02:06:41,260
basically i'm sorry i didn't take care of it i didn't know about it i was up to my ears and

1347
02:06:42,300 --> 02:06:48,540
siblings and estate issues and all this other stuff with my in grieving the loss of my father

1348
02:06:49,180 --> 02:06:53,660
and dealing with my own health problems which i'm not going to get into but

1349
02:06:55,020 --> 02:06:57,340
um just hoping that

1350
02:06:57,900 --> 02:07:10,700
the other 12 or 13 people are just human just like me maybe so um i don't know if i

1351
02:07:11,500 --> 02:07:16,220
if anyone asked me questions or if that was already done if there are questions from the

1352
02:07:16,220 --> 02:07:19,340
council that we can call you back up unless there's anything else you'd like to add

1353
02:07:19,340 --> 02:07:31,980
um i don't think so okay thank you ma'am okay close the hearing

1354
02:07:33,420 --> 02:07:39,100
gelman from the fifth thank you your honor i was at the finance meeting and i thought she has a

1355
02:07:39,100 --> 02:07:47,900
legitimate case uh due to all the circumstances that were foreseen or not seen or unable to handle

1356
02:07:48,460 --> 02:07:54,780
um i'd never disagree i shouldn't say never disagree i very rarely disagree with finance

1357
02:07:54,780 --> 02:07:59,340
but i think on this one they were wrong and i want to vote for resending thank you

1358
02:08:00,860 --> 02:08:05,500
thank you sir gelman from the first thank you your honor through the chair to the director of

1359
02:08:05,500 --> 02:08:07,900
inspections just a quick question

1360
02:08:08,380 --> 02:08:18,780
do we send these notifications out registered mail return return receipt requests that are

1361
02:08:18,780 --> 02:08:24,220
something of that nature is just regular mail no we send them out class email class email so

1362
02:08:24,220 --> 02:08:28,540
we have no we have no receipt that's we have no way to track so we don't track these

1363
02:08:29,100 --> 02:08:35,340
no tracking corrosion and then maybe through the chair of the city attorney um obviously the

1364
02:08:35,340 --> 02:08:39,980
fees escalate from the first vehicle to seventy two dollars and it goes in 90 then 180 then

1365
02:08:40,620 --> 02:08:45,340
kind of hangs out there at 360 uh it's my understanding that that's there's not just

1366
02:08:45,340 --> 02:08:49,740
inspection fees that have the bear kind of a reasonable resemblance the time we spend

1367
02:08:49,740 --> 02:08:55,180
but there's a punitive portion of this right is that if i'm saying the right legal stuff i

1368
02:08:55,180 --> 02:09:02,700
i would not agree that there's a punitive portion uh to this uh my understanding is these are

1369
02:09:03,580 --> 02:09:10,940
uh charged based on the cost provide the cost of the um of the city's incurring providing

1370
02:09:10,940 --> 02:09:15,980
services to the residents okay i don't believe from memory it wasn't explaining me at one point

1371
02:09:15,980 --> 02:09:22,300
because we could certainly if the fees ask if the fees escalate and the inspection time is roughly

1372
02:09:22,300 --> 02:09:27,420
the same and you're repeating the inspection then it'd be difficult to explain to 360 versus the

1373
02:09:27,500 --> 02:09:32,540
90 in the 180 in the 72 but we could certainly talk about it off the record afterward there's

1374
02:09:32,540 --> 02:09:37,580
there's a number of legal factors that well i'm just trying to i'm just trying to clarify that

1375
02:09:38,220 --> 02:09:42,060
there there is again this is just me going from memory that it's not just a

1376
02:09:42,060 --> 02:09:45,580
reinspection fee certainly the first one should bear a reasonable reason once right to the

1377
02:09:46,060 --> 02:09:50,860
our fees incurred from what once the attorney told me at one time but i was led to believe that

1378
02:09:50,860 --> 02:09:56,700
they become more somewhat punitive in nature also and that was a justification so anyway um we can

1379
02:09:56,700 --> 02:10:02,380
talk about that offline thank you ron thank you sir gentlemen from the 10th

1380
02:10:05,500 --> 02:10:10,060
thank you mr mare um through the mayor through the chair to the applicant

1381
02:10:14,860 --> 02:10:17,580
ma'am can you come back up to the podium please

1382
02:10:17,580 --> 02:10:27,100
I'm sorry i'm not familiar with all the lingo of the applicant reading your

1383
02:10:29,420 --> 02:10:38,540
appeal it says um you were gone for two years yes did you have a property management

1384
02:10:38,540 --> 02:10:41,580
or someone taking care of the property while you were gone for that two-year period

1385
02:10:42,540 --> 02:10:48,140
no i did not usually the tenant would call me if there was any issue or text me

1386
02:10:49,100 --> 02:10:53,820
usually she would call me you stated that the tenant died in December she did she died in

1387
02:10:53,820 --> 02:10:58,140
December and i was not aware of this was rent stopped being paid in December

1388
02:11:00,860 --> 02:11:08,460
no it was paid for December and January so

1389
02:11:09,260 --> 02:11:15,100
so her i think you learned in march or april that the person had passed away then no rent was

1390
02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:21,260
paid for march or april correct and you did not evict the person for non-payment rent

1391
02:11:22,700 --> 02:11:29,900
she was dead so i couldn't evict her the tenant son the tenant son

1392
02:11:31,820 --> 02:11:38,220
no i did not i just baked him to leave okay thank you thank you you're welcome

1393
02:11:39,420 --> 02:11:43,740
thank you sir gentlemen from 13th thank you mr mare

1394
02:11:45,820 --> 02:11:54,140
let's step back a minute first of all this this uh situations began when the city received a

1395
02:11:54,140 --> 02:12:05,020
complaint about a cold violation at this location and the sitting spectra is sent out sent out a

1396
02:12:05,020 --> 02:12:10,220
cold uh official to take a look at what the complaint was about

1397
02:12:11,740 --> 02:12:16,140
determined it was a cold violation and served the process

1398
02:12:20,140 --> 02:12:27,740
and then you know a letter was sent to her address of record

1399
02:12:29,740 --> 02:12:33,740
and the notice was put on the door or handed to the tenant

1400
02:12:35,740 --> 02:12:41,180
and then following that the inspection department went back out

1401
02:12:42,700 --> 02:12:49,740
to determine whether or not work was had begun or was completed on the cold violation

1402
02:12:51,100 --> 02:13:01,100
it was not so then a reinspection fee was applied 11 reinspections took place at this location

1403
02:13:01,420 --> 02:13:07,980
more than once the city inspector made contact with the with the tenant

1404
02:13:09,500 --> 02:13:16,060
requested information on how to contact the property owner phone call or whatever

1405
02:13:16,060 --> 02:13:23,340
was unsuccessful in in getting that done the problem really is here

1406
02:13:23,580 --> 02:13:34,540
that the uh property owner failed to change her address with the city of ganosia

1407
02:13:37,420 --> 02:13:44,140
not only was she gone for two years but failed to to change the address

1408
02:13:46,300 --> 02:13:51,500
her her own address for that property so the city could you know

1409
02:13:52,300 --> 02:13:57,740
they sent the letter out as they're supposed to do the city did its job

1410
02:13:59,020 --> 02:14:09,420
i'm sorry to say the uh the homeowner did not i'm not about to sit here and vote to change

1411
02:14:11,260 --> 02:14:19,260
the processes and the procedures of of our city inspections and codes and and all that

1412
02:14:20,140 --> 02:14:28,700
i would urge my colleagues to vote to deny thank you thank you sir okay so you know lights

1413
02:14:28,700 --> 02:14:41,980
motion and floor is concurrence on finance and m two three four and five roll call please

1414
02:14:42,220 --> 02:14:54,700
motion passes 16-0 and recommendations from the committee on public works and one acceptance

1415
02:14:54,700 --> 02:15:10,700
of project my apologies 16-1 thank you and recommendations from the committee on public works and one

1416
02:15:10,700 --> 02:15:18,140
acceptance of project 25 1044 20th avenue resurfacing which has been satisfactorily completed by

1417
02:15:18,140 --> 02:15:24,780
a laland contractors incorporated the final amount of the contract is four hundred eleven thousand

1418
02:15:24,780 --> 02:15:30,780
one hundred forty dollars and twenty one cents lady from the eighth is to make a motion to

1419
02:15:30,780 --> 02:15:38,620
concur with the public works committee on n one moon is seconded to concur on item n one any

1420
02:15:38,620 --> 02:15:43,260
discussion sing none roll call please

1421
02:15:54,860 --> 02:16:04,140
motion passes 17-0 and two acceptance of project 25-1435 horizon park playground

1422
02:16:04,220 --> 02:16:09,580
which has been satisfactorily completed by stuckey construction company the final amount

1423
02:16:09,580 --> 02:16:14,380
of the contract is four hundred nineteen thousand eight hundred eighty five dollars and sixty five

1424
02:16:14,380 --> 02:16:21,580
cents recommendation pending approval six zero gentlemen from the first looks concur with

1425
02:16:21,580 --> 02:16:29,660
the recommendation to approve in the park commission oh that way

1426
02:16:30,620 --> 02:16:34,780
moving second to concur with the parks commission on n two any discussion

1427
02:16:35,580 --> 02:16:36,940
sing none roll call please

1428
02:16:48,060 --> 02:16:55,180
motion passes 17-0 and three project 26-1-0-4-1-30

1429
02:16:55,180 --> 02:17:01,580
that avenue resurfacing change order number one finance and public works committee recommendation

1430
02:17:01,580 --> 02:17:07,980
approval six zero gentlemen from 13th move to concur with the finance committee recommendation

1431
02:17:07,980 --> 02:17:16,140
to approve n three moving second to concur on item n three any discussion

1432
02:17:17,020 --> 02:17:20,300
sing none all those in favor say or roll call please excuse me

1433
02:17:27,020 --> 02:17:33,500
motion carries 17-0 p and such matters as are authorized by law or regular business p1

1434
02:17:33,500 --> 02:17:38,140
agreement to hire an expert witness with regard to pending litigation with associated wholesale

1435
02:17:38,140 --> 02:17:43,980
grocers in 25-cv-5-17 finance recommended to approve six to zero

1436
02:17:44,860 --> 02:17:50,540
gentlemen from 13th move to concur with the finance committee recommendation to approve

1437
02:17:51,100 --> 02:17:56,700
p1 second moving second to concur with finance and p1 any discussion

1438
02:17:57,900 --> 02:17:59,420
sing none roll call please

1439
02:17:59,420 --> 02:18:09,580
motion carries 17-0 p2 potential settlement authority for the city of kenosha's

1440
02:18:09,580 --> 02:18:16,860
attorneys and Jane Doe versus Joshua Sylvester and the city of kenosha case number two 25-cv-0-1-2-4-3

1441
02:18:17,420 --> 02:18:22,380
finance recommended you concur with the recommendation of legal counsel six to zero

1442
02:18:22,940 --> 02:18:27,020
gentlemen from 13th move to concur with the finance committee recommendation

1443
02:18:27,980 --> 02:18:33,980
thank you on p2 second spin

1444
02:18:37,340 --> 02:18:41,180
moved and seconded to concur with the finance committee recommendation

1445
02:18:41,900 --> 02:18:45,500
any discussion sing none roll call please

1446
02:18:46,380 --> 02:18:48,380
please

1447
02:18:51,820 --> 02:18:52,780
bless you

1448
02:18:55,740 --> 02:18:56,700
alder person ciel

1449
02:18:58,380 --> 02:19:02,940
motion carries 17-0 okay alder person's comments

1450
02:19:04,860 --> 02:19:06,220
gentlemen from the 10th

1451
02:19:06,220 --> 02:19:16,140
thank you mr. Mayor I want to first give a shout out to the k-town connect crew Jason

1452
02:19:16,140 --> 02:19:24,140
Hedman and Donnie Sankato they celebrated their 200th podcast I had the honor of being their

1453
02:19:24,140 --> 02:19:31,500
37th guest I didn't think they would make it to 50 and I was pleasantly surprised and but the

1454
02:19:31,580 --> 02:19:37,260
reality is if you listen to these interviews with people in our community you really learn

1455
02:19:37,260 --> 02:19:40,620
something about them you know a little bit about their business you might know a little bit about

1456
02:19:40,620 --> 02:19:48,460
how these what they serve but it really gives you an insight into why people invest their time

1457
02:19:48,460 --> 02:19:54,300
and energy into this community and I think it was a really special thing and again I congratulate

1458
02:19:54,300 --> 02:19:59,740
them on their 200th podcast I don't think they're going to make it the 300 but who knows

1459
02:20:00,620 --> 02:20:06,540
on a separate note I want to it takes a village to raise a child and sometimes it takes a

1460
02:20:07,100 --> 02:20:14,860
entire community to put on a jazz fest we were supposed to have the 2026 harbor park

1461
02:20:16,380 --> 02:20:21,740
jazz rhythm and blues festival at celebration place on saturday due to what we thought was going to

1462
02:20:21,740 --> 02:20:26,700
be bad weather a decision was made to bring it indoors and that decision

1463
02:20:27,500 --> 02:20:35,500
a lot caused a quite a few people to have to pivot and put some resources in to make sure

1464
02:20:35,500 --> 02:20:42,780
that this concert went off which by the way benefits college students in our community

1465
02:20:42,780 --> 02:20:48,460
it's for scholarships so I just want to thank everyone that was involved it took so many people

1466
02:20:48,460 --> 02:20:55,740
to put that concert on to put the fundraiser together people from the city people from KUSD

1467
02:20:55,740 --> 02:21:01,900
all our volunteers and also those who attended the event it didn't rain

1468
02:21:03,020 --> 02:21:09,260
after all that it didn't rain but I really want to extend a thank you a hearty thank you to everyone

1469
02:21:09,260 --> 02:21:15,420
who within a matter of 24 hours was ready to pivot and make this concert happen which again

1470
02:21:15,420 --> 02:21:19,820
provides scholarships to students in our community so thank you one more time

1471
02:21:20,540 --> 02:21:28,220
thank you sir gentlemen from the third thank you your honor I'm going to try to word this very

1472
02:21:28,220 --> 02:21:34,940
carefully I've been getting emails and then complaints at citizens comments people seem to be

1473
02:21:34,940 --> 02:21:42,140
indignant that they are limited to three minutes when of course there are more than 11 people

1474
02:21:44,300 --> 02:21:49,580
wishy to speak the thing is this is not something we've just decided to do this is

1475
02:21:49,580 --> 02:21:56,220
something we are required to do and you know I'm not going to talk about disruptive people or

1476
02:21:56,220 --> 02:22:02,460
anything like that but I am going to say that they should also bear in mind that a lot of people

1477
02:22:02,460 --> 02:22:10,460
who are on the published agenda have business have their livelihoods really involved with our vote

1478
02:22:10,460 --> 02:22:16,140
on the published agenda they have to wait through all this and then they have to get you know their

1479
02:22:16,220 --> 02:22:26,780
turn for public hearing so we're not ignoring you we are required to provide you your three

1480
02:22:26,780 --> 02:22:35,980
minutes and we're not ignoring you and I'll leave it at that thank you sir motion to adjourn

1481
02:22:35,980 --> 02:22:46,380
and your laptop will be in order want to try that again

1482
02:22:50,140 --> 02:22:55,180
moving in second to adjourn all the favor say aye we stand adjourned thank you everybody