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Call to order the council meeting for Monday, July 6, 2026. Roll call please.

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Let the record reflect the quorum is present. The lady from the 6th and the gentleman from the 14th are excused.

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At this time I would like to ask one to please rise for a moment of silence followed by the pledge.

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Tonight I would ask everyone to please keep in your thoughts and prayers the families of those who lost their lives in

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Lake Geneva and the voting accident this weekend.

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We stand by you and we are here for you.

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Need a motion on your laptop for approval minutes of the meeting held June 15th, 2026.

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Any changes or corrections? Seeing none. All those in favor say aye.

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Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries.

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At this time I would like to call up the gentleman from the 2nd and the members of the Mayor's Youth Commission for Youth Commission Awards this evening.

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Hello, welcome everyone.

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Thanks for coming to tonight's meeting. My name is Meg Fisher and I'm the chairperson of the Mayor's Youth Commission.

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I'd like to thank everyone for attending tonight's meetings, especially the families of the recipients of tonight's awards.

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The Mayor's Youth Commission has developed

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an awards program that recognizes the youth of Kenosha for their achievements, their accomplishments and their contributions to making the city and in turn the world a better place.

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We'd like to thank their nominators for seeing the good in each of them.

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We'd like to thank the families for raising such great kids.

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But most of all we'd like to thank tonight's recipients for making great choices in the lives and have brought to you here at this evening.

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And now for some awards.

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I'll turn this way so I can see you better.

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All right, Elliot, come on up.

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Elliot Fortner is a junior at Lakeview Academy.

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Elliot is a bright, compassionate and creative student who contributes positively to both his school and community academically.

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Elliot demonstrates strong ability and abstract reasoning, particularly in mathematics and computer science.

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His AP Scholar and Honors Recognition reflects consistent success in rigorous coursework.

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He's also self-aware as a learner, recognizing both his strengths in theoretical work and areas for growth, demonstrating maturity and in strong growth mindset.

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Beyond the classroom, Elliot is an active and dependable student leader.

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He participates in ROV Club, which just plays second at the 2026 MATE Great Lakes Regional ROV Competition.

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Board Game Night.

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Sorry, Board Game Club, National Honor Society, Math Club, Computer Programming Club, and Tutoring.

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In tutoring, Elliot recognized a need for more structured academic support, approached a staff member to serve as an advisor,

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and helped organize a system to coordinate qualified student tutors with peers needing assistance.

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This initiative reflects his leadership, responsibility, and commitment to helping others succeed.

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In his other roles, he continues to promote collaboration, inclusion, and academic engagement among his peers.

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Elliot's creative interest in music production and tabletop role-playing games reflects his imagination and depth of thought.

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He engages deeply in storytelling, meaning, and structure, often bringing both creativity and analysis to his work.

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Elliot is a student of strong character and intellectual depth who consistently seeks respectful dialogue and meaningful collaboration.

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Congratulations, Elliot.

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Next is Elena Torres Gomez.

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Come on up, Elena.

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Elena is a graduate of second grade at Frank Elementary School.

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Elena consistently helps create a positive classroom environment by asking how to help and offers to support her classmates daily.

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Her kindness and patience make others feel safe and included.

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She is eager to learn, participates with enthusiasm, and approaches new tasks with curiosity and a willingness to try.

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Elena often takes on small leadership roles, such as explaining how to do something or being trusted to run school errands.

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Elena is a character leader of empathy, something because she is such a kind-hearted person.

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She also shows respect, responsibility, and a positive attitude that raises the tone of the classroom community.

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She's also been selected to be the student of the month for three consecutive years.

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Lastly, Elena has also had perfect attendance for the past three years.

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She doesn't want to miss a single day of school, which demonstrates reliability and commitment to her education.

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Congratulations.

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Next, we have a trio of students who are being awarded tonight, so Lauren, Claire, and Audrey come on up.

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They're not all three here, but we have two of them are going to be recognized tonight.

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Lauren, Claire, and Audrey are in fifth grade, graduates of fifth grade at Nash Elementary School.

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Claire Buck's mom, Lauren Heimstead, and Audrey Faulkner wrote about how our school looked awful because of all the trash.

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The girls in this group asked if they could clean up the area.

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They first said it could be our home room to clean up.

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Then they thought about all of the grades.

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Next, they decided that leaders empower others.

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So, they asked if they could make it a school-wide event.

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It was fun to experience how this unfolded organically and was student-driven.

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These kids are truly the best.

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They are so solution-minded and such an inspiration.

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Congratulations.

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Next is Owen Hermes, a junior at Indian Trail.

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Owen is a standout candidate for the Mayor's Youth Commission Award due to dedication and excellence in all areas of his high school career.

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He has maintained a perfect straight A record throughout high school while maintaining a rigorous course load, including several AP classes.

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He is a member of the National Honor Society, track and cross-country teams, and completed over 100 hours of community service.

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He consistently demonstrates a level of maturity and responsibility that sets him apart from his peers.

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He is highly organized and motivated in all aspects of his life.

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Congratulations, Owen.

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Now a new voice for you.

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Awesome.

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Dawson Server is in 5th grade, Southport Elementary.

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Throughout her 5th grade year, Dawson has served as a responsible and safe member of Southport's Safety Patrol

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and an integral part of the Southport Student Ambassadors,

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which is a teacher-nominated leadership position within the school that supports other students and staffs

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in building our school community and culture.

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As part of this team, Dawson mentored younger students, aided teachers in the classroom, and welcomed new students and families to Southport.

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As an ambassador, Dawson kept her commitment to attendance, behavior, and work ethic.

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Dawson also participated in the Battle of the Books, a team-based reading competition, as well as the Southport spelling bee,

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and are both opportunities outside the classroom for dedicated individuals to participate in academically.

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Also, her artwork has been recognized in this year's KUSD art show, as well as when she was in 3rd grade.

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In addition to her many school roles, Dawson is an active member in a wanness in her local church community,

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which focuses on the fundamentals of God and the Bible.

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Dawson is also an avid athlete participating in team sports such as softball, flag football, and volleyball within her community.

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She also has an interest in joining the theater department during middle school next year.

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In her free time, she loves to recreate artwork, swim, enjoy the outdoors, play with her dogs, and spend time with her cousins and family.

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Dawson is a well-rounded individual, her personality, leadership, compassion, determination, and academic success shines brightly here at Southport,

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and throughout other aspects of her life as well.

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Many of her fellow students consider her role model and a friend with the most genuine heart. Congratulations.

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Samantha Tanuda is in 5th grade at Roosevelt Elementary.

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Samantha is a lieutenant on the safety patrol and has been nominated for safety patroller of the year.

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On top of that, she plays hockey on two different teams, plays the piano, the double bass in the school orchestra,

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participates in the arrangement program, has no missing work, and has excellent attendance.

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Samantha is kind, helpful to her classmates and teachers, and is an all-round great kid.

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She has been an asset to Roosevelt since coming here in 2nd grade to attend the enrichment program,

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and we all know she will do great things in middle school. Congratulations.

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APPLAUSE

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Ethan Turner is a senior at St. Joseph's Catholic Academy. Ethan plays high school football track and on the cross-country team.

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Ethan was a varsity letter winner in football for two years and a varsity letter winner in track for four years.

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Ethan made the WFCA academic all-state this year as a senior. Ethan is a leader on the school retreat team,

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guiding younger students to facilitate ways to experience Christ and connect with their faith.

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Ethan displayed academic excellence by spending his middle school career making the first honors list

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and making the first honors each year in high school as well. Ethan challenged himself this year,

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taking AP courses and participating in a dual credit theology course offered with a Marquette co-op arrangement.

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Ethan is a model student. He serves at Mass almost every Wednesday and is part of St. Anthony's pair here in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

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Ethan is a bright, well-rounded student athlete and community member who shows leadership and exceptional work ethic

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and displays a higher level of compassion than other students of his class.

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Between his classroom teachers and coaches, they cannot say enough wonderful things about Ethan and his leadership.

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Congratulations.

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Well, first off, thank you to the Mayor's Youth Commission for all the work that goes into recognizing these amazing students.

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To the student honorees here tonight, you guys are incredible.

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I can't say every time that we have these and I listen to all of the accomplishments, you know, obviously from grade school on up to high school,

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you know, it's incredible what we should all be proud of in this community is to have individuals like yourselves who care deeply about their community,

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who care deeply about their education, and you don't just talk about it, you do something about it.

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And I'm very thankful for all of you, for all the things that you have accomplished at this point.

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And I know that there's just listening to what you all have accomplished.

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I know that there's a lot more in store for you as you continue on your life's journey.

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To the parents, family, brothers and sisters, teachers, thank you for raising such amazing young people.

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It never ceases to amaze me.

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I heard a young person here out tonight, he was reading a book here and his goal was 40 this summer, he's already at 36.

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So he's going to blow that goal away.

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So again, whenever I hear people talk bad about youth or talk bad about things, I just shake my head and I go,

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you're not talking to the people I talk to.

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The people of Kenosha here, the young people here, are incredible.

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And it's because of all of you who raised such amazing young people, we're very proud of all of them.

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So thank you all for what you've done.

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At this time, I'd like to ask for a five-minute recess for pictures.

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We'll put five minutes recess for pictures.

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I'll move in a second and all of a favor say aye.

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Aye.

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We stand in recess.

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Everyone, if you want to come up, we're going to do some pictures.

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Five minutes having elapsed.

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We are back in session.

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Please continue.

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Citizens, comments.

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We have 17 citizens that have signed up to speak.

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Each will have three minutes.

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When your name is called, please proceed to the podium and state your name and address for the record.

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The first speaker is Aaron Mann.

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Aaron Mann, 5934th Avenue in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

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Hello, council.

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Mr. Mayor, I don't know if you remember me at all, but a while back.

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I was honored to perform with the mayor in a show of little shop of hoarders.

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I don't know if anybody got to see it or not, but it's fantastic.

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He rolled up in a police car, got out, did the opening monologue, kicked it off.

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It was fantastic.

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Great job.

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But the show itself, I don't know if anybody's ever seen little shop of hoarders or if you've seen

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the movie starring Rick Moranis, it is a show about a mysterious plant that arrives promising

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fame and fortune.

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See more feeds, the main character, see more, feeds his blood to this plant.

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It grows, it brings money, but the plant keeps demanding more, more blood, more sacrifice.

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By the end, it is consumed everything, America and the world.

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The Greek chorus in the show has one lesson here, don't feed the plants.

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You can quote the writer on this, but the show is quite literally a testament to how greed

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and capitalism can ruin us.

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The evil character, the plant, is called Audrey Two, and in this case, I'm referring to,

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you probably guessed it by now, the Microsoft AI data center, being the plant.

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And I'm telling this council, don't feed the plant, much like the message at the end

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of the show.

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A few points you've probably already heard or not, but are very worth repeating, all based

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on the facts and numbers, via this source sheet I decided to pull together.

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You probably hear this multiple times today.

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The jobs that this data center are going to bring are a mirage.

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Let's look at the numbers.

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10 to 20 people are going to be employed.

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That's roughly 40 to 80 people, total jobs for a facility that is a million square feet,

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four buildings total.

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Wall Street Journal quotes this is saying, this is the lowest number of jobs per square

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foot of any facility.

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Offices are manufacturing on that same level would definitely employ hundreds, if not more,

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of connotions.

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We put a little elbow grease into that.

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The secrecy is .2 that I brought to you today.

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Kenosha signed an NDA with the Microsoft in May for over seven months.

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Residents had no idea what was being negotiated on their behalf.

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Microsoft only abandoned NDA's this past March, not out of goodwill, but because communities

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across Wisconsin made secrecy politically toxic.

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Even now their own lawyer admits they'll still use NDA's for land purchases.

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The transparency they're offering is the transparency that we forced.

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Point three I'm bringing to you.

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The environment in public health, you've probably heard a lot about this multiple times, but

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the facility will use 4,500 gallons of water daily.

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And that's just what's disclosed.

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In Mount Pleasant, a single Microsoft data center drains 2.8 million gallons from Lake

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Michigan annually.

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Erin, you have 30 seconds.

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Thank you.

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The last points I would like to bring to you are your electric bills and property values,

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but I am running out of time, so I will cut to the chase.

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To wrap up, Mayor, I shared a stage with you.

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I know you care about this community, but I urge you to look at what this actually is.

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A trillion dollar corporation asking us to foot the bill for their power, sacrifice our water,

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and accept environmental costs so that they can train AI models that will never benefit

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a Kenosha resident, or anyone for that matter.

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Maybe in the short term, but not the long term.

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And little shot before is the main character piece.

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Thank you for your time.

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Folks, I'm going to ask, as I do at every meeting, that we don't applaud, jeer, sneer,

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yell, just let everyone speak with their mind.

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Everyone has their three minutes.

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That way we can get through as many of these as we possibly can.

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I appreciate that.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, Nicholas Prorak.

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Nick Prorak 8858 Sheridan Road.

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Good evening.

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Thanks again for having me here.

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I'm here to talk about the data center.

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Before I do, I want to say congratulations for all of you to not be under the NDA anymore.

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They, Microsoft did release, a press release in March saying they didn't want to do NDA's,

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but Microsoft officially canceled the NDA with Kenosha June 22nd, so two weeks ago.

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So that's wonderful news for transparency.

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Now, if we could have two years of open and honest conversation about the project and concrete

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measures that are being taken to ensure residents are protected and Microsoft can be held accountable,

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that would be fantastic.

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Opposition to this project is growing every day, and not because we're making really good

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arguments, but because every time we talk to someone, we're new people who don't know about the data center.

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Secondly, I submitted a public records request at the end of May.

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My records related to communications with Microsoft and the city.

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The assistant city attorney told me that there's 18,000 documents that they need to go through,

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and they're getting back to me on a cost, so it's my request to the mayor and to the common council

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that you waive the costs and you, you know, be transparent with the people of Kenosha for free.

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With that being said, I'm a fax guy.

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It's really important for me to, like, when we're talking about anything, to talk about fax,

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and so I just want to talk about today how hyperscale AI data centers are not the same as cloud computing data centers.

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You might see people say that, well, if you don't want a data center, then you should give up your cell phone,

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you should give up your computer, you should give up your smart TV.

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This data center that Microsoft wants to build, this AI data center, will not affect your ability to use Facebook,

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it won't affect your ability to use Instagram, it won't affect your ability to listen to your favorite audio book,

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to stream Netflix, they're totally unrelated.

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The largest data centers before modern AI, the modern AI data center build out, used about 100 megawatts of electricity.

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The Mount Pleasant AI data center is expected to use 3.3 gigawatts of electricity.

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That's 33 times the amount of electricity that data centers used to use.

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Nick, you have 30 seconds.

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That's the equivalent of 3.3 million homes.

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So comparing cloud data centers to AI data centers is like comparing mom and pop stores to Wal-Mart.

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You say, well, you buy stuff, so it's your fault that Wal-Mart wants to build here,

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but we know mom and pop shops are not the same as Wal-Mart.

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All in person, Rosenberg, I remember when you fought hard to stop a Wal-Mart in District 9.

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This is the hyperscale version of a Wal-Mart.

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So I'd like to ask you, gentlemen and ladies, please pass a moratorium to allow the time to ensure that everyone of you is educated on the issue that reals up.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, Kimberly Laska.

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Good evening, mayor and alder people.

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My name is Kimberly Laska. I live at 2403, 136th Ave.

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Microsoft Corporation is my new neighbor.

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They just haven't moved in yet.

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So I want to tell you a little bit more of my personal take on the situation.

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I got to meet Microsoft at the Community Connect event,

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held June 23rd at the Fountain Banquet Hall in Racine.

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I met the VP Bowen.

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He was flown in from Redmond, Washington, and he was sure to remind me that Microsoft was a for-profit company.

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And I also talked to the land use representative, who came all the way from Toronto,

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and she tried to reassure me by saying, oh, honey, don't worry,

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you can get a free car wash during the construction phase.

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I was neither reassured nor optimistic about Microsoft being a good neighbor after this open house.

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What I did feel was a sense of connection with the other attendees,

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mostly locals, fellow homeowners, trying to make sense of these giant, noisy, rumbling boxes invading our neighborhoods.

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And I certainly felt less alone when I attended the Quam, D.C. event at Rodee Center last Tuesday, July 29th,

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and some of you were there.

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Thank you for coming.

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I sat in the audience, laughing along to Charlie Barron's jokes and fighting back tears

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when Amanda Mueller from Port Washington spoke so eloquently

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about her experience of living through the construction phase of an AI data center.

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I felt a strong sense of community.

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And again, the other day, when I saw the Gallup and Pew Trust polls citing that seven out of ten Americans

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are opposed to the construction of AI data centers.

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I knew for sure I wasn't alone.

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Both polls cited the major concerns of rising home energy costs,

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the impact on the environment, and the quality of life for those living nearby.

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Those are my concerns too.

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Marquette Law School's latest poll found the same 70% opposition to data centers

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and noted the skepticism on the part of the public is bipartisan.

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But I already knew that, and I knew that from talking to my neighbors.

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It didn't matter if they were Republican, Democrat, or independent.

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No one wanted a data center moving in.

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So I'm here tonight to ask you to consider the moratorium.

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And I'm calling for Democratic accountability.

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Kimberly, you have 30 seconds.

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All right, please listen to your constituents.

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And maybe as an alternative, we could welcome real things that real people need.

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And I'm happy to hang around if anyone wants to hear more about my experience

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at any of these events.

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I brought my knitting, so you know I'm not going anywhere.

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Next speaker, Phil Weitzel.

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Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Alderman.

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I really enjoyed the people tonight, and I could see in our community

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that there's really a lot special here.

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And I think...

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Sir, I apologize for interrupting.

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Please state your name and address.

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Pardon?

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Name and address.

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Oh, name and address?

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Phil Weitzel.

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82036th Avenue, Paris.

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So to pick up where I left off, I really enjoyed the get together this evening,

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and I see our community as something very special.

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And I think that all of you probably need to step back,

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and I'm sure you already have, and you begin to form your opinions on this data center.

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It's just a center of controversy everywhere.

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I mean, quite frankly, we live, about my wife and I live, about two and a half, three miles

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from where that data center would be built.

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And quite frankly, I'm interested in really understanding what the impact is going to have

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on our community.

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Not just Kenosha, but Paris, and the surrounding area.

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I mean, we have a solar farm behind us, and it's huge.

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It's taken a lot of land, a lot of acreage, and it's changed the look of the county.

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It really has.

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It's impacted us.

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We've heard from we energies.

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They were going to put beautiful trees around the solar farm.

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It hasn't happened.

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I haven't seen one tree.

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I'd invite any of you to go out and take a look.

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Given the fact that we are looking at a data center that could potentially bring a lot of

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money into our community, it's a good thing.

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But we need to look at both the good and the positive, the negative and the positives.

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And I just ask that you do that.

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And as a result, I'm asking for maybe we let the people in Kenosha and even out in Paris

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to be able to decide, is this really best for us?

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Is this something we want for our future and for our future grandchildren?

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That's what I'm asking you tonight.

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I'd like you to consider that.

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And rather than saying it's divisive, it's not divisive.

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It could be very beneficial to the community.

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On the other hand, it could be detrimental.

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We don't know.

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We just don't know.

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And there's a lot of unknowns at this point.

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And I would like to hear what those unknowns are before we make the decision.

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Put it before a referendum to the people.

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Allow the people to decide what they want rather than just the people in this room.

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Because we're part of them, but we want them to decide.

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Thank you.

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Arabella Kessler.

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Arabella Kessler 3327-47th Avenue.

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I am a lifelong Kenosha resident and a property owner here for reference.

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I would be about four and a half miles from the data center.

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I'm coming here to denounce it and the fossil fuel plant that would power it.

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And respectfully display the level of frustration I feel towards the city officials on this matter.

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I'm not here to spit facts at you because a lot of other intelligent folks here have

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and will sum it up better than I can.

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However, it is incredibly disappointing to me that the mayor and the council have been doing

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this behind the backs of Kenosha residents and perpetuating lies spun by Microsoft about

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data centers.

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Thank God the NDA is over.

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The Kenosions need to be fully informed on this matter.

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I understand Microsoft has come in and promised the city developments, profits, jobs.

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Surely you've heard this before, but there is not a return on jobs as they are majorly

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temporary construction positions filled by traveling workers.

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Of course, the trillion dollar company that wants to build on our land and use our resources,

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such as our amazing farmlands and Great Lakes, is telling you it's safe and will improve

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the quality of our lives that closed looping systems are different.

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Unfortunately, there's countless video and photo evidence and testimony of actual citizens

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living near data centers demonstrating the exact opposite.

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Whether it is air pollution, forever chemicals, leaching into the ground and water systems

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that cause cancer and birth defects, inability to use running water,

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can you imagine not being able to take a shower or drink the water out of your own home?

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Rising electric bills and new fossil fuel plants, remember folks, that's one of the trade-offs

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to a system that doesn't use massive amounts of water.

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It requires massive amounts of energy, meaning higher costs and even more pollution.

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To each of you sitting before me, remember why you hold the position you hold.

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Remember you were elected to represent us, the beautiful city of Kenosha and its residents.

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Are you really going to allow a trillion dollar company potentially taking over our farmlands,

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polluting the air and poisoning the lakefront be your legacy?

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I urge you all to reconsider before it is too late.

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Consituents deserve to be prioritized over corporate interests and investments.

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Do you work for us, the people, or for Microsoft, the corporation?

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It is not really that we don't know the ramifications of these data centers yet.

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It is not that we don't have enough information to know it's safe or not.

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It is that we are actively seeing the ramifications play out all over the U.S. right now in real time.

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We are actively seeing the damages, people being forced to move out of their homes,

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people not being able to use their water, flooding of properties, constant noise.

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They are seeing higher rates of asthma and different...

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Areabella, you have 30 seconds.

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Thank you.

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I am just going to end this by saying we have seen the damages that have caused.

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We just haven't seen how bad it can really get yet.

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And outside of that, just like the gentleman two before me mentioned,

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this is not the type of data center that holds our clouds.

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This is for hyperscale surveillance centers, and I do not want it here,

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and a lot of young people my age feel the same way.

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Thank you for your time.

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Stephanie Malick.

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Hi there, I am Stephanie Malick at 360714th Avenue in Kenosha.

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This is all new to me.

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This is my first time ever at one of these, so a little nervous.

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But anyway, I want to ask for a moratorium on the data centers for Kenosha,

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and really for a lot of the area.

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I've got four kids.

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I'm really nervous about them not having water, not having clean water,

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having issues as they grow up, and I don't think I'm alone.

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There was many people at the Rode Center, and I think many of us in the area

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are very worried about the next seven generations.

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I don't know if you've ever seen the movie The Lorax, but I don't want my kids to glow,

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so if we can stop some of these things that we're doing in the area,

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like causing more pollution, these data centers are hungry,

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very hungry for our water that we have here,

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and I've been talking to my dad about, like, what are we going to do?

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He's 85 years old, and he said, well, we live next to the Great Lakes.

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If there's an issue here, then there's nowhere else to go.

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So it's for those reasons that, like, I think we should have a moratorium on this.

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We don't know why the bees are dying with the vibrations that they have going on

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with these data centers, and why livestock is not producing as much.

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And people have done these studies, and thank you so much to the Aldermen

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and things like that that were at the event that was held at the Rode shows that you care.

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To the ones that were not, maybe you can get some information from that.

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I think that's all I really have to say.

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I just really care about our future, and if you do too,

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I would suggest not having data centers here.

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Thank you.

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Greg Cresson.

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Good evening.

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My name is our first mayor and comma council.

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Thanks so much for the time.

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Hello, my name is Greg Cresson.

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I live at 802. 21st Avenue, Kenosha.

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I'm here tonight to talk about my concerns with Kenosha AI data center,

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air quality, and the effects of backup diesel generators

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and the two gas fire plans planned for Paris, Wisconsin.

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I suffer from asthma, and I am concerned about the air quality

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that will continue to deteriorate with the addition of more AI data centers.

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The American Lung Association has given Kenosha an F rating for high ozone pollution.

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Ozone acts like sunburn on the lungs,

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swelling the airways and triggering acute asthma attacks.

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Due to the failure to meet national safety standards,

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the EPA has reclassified the Kenosha air quality as serious.

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My brothers and I grew up on the rock river, and we used to run around on our bikes.

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And I'm diagnosed. I have an inhaler.

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I have the medications I need.

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I fear for the young kids that aren't diagnosed.

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And with heat, it intensifies the effects and can be very serious.

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And it's, for me, asthma was like trying to run a marathon breathing through a straw.

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I just don't know, and it hits you, and it took me years to figure it out.

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Emission regulations on backup generators are less rigid than on power sources,

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because they are only supposed to be used in an emergency situation.

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Many AI data centers are already using these backup generators far more than advertised.

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At the Mike Rissoff Mom Pleasant Campus, they use these...

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The use of these diesel generators is projected to emit roughly 100 tons of nitrogen oxide annually.

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Gas-fired energy plants aren't much better than diesel as they emit nitrogen oxide

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sulfur dioxide and unstable organic compounds.

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Most towards this type of energy does not live up to the Kenosha comprehensive plan

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to encourage the use of alternative and green projects.

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The data I found on these energy sources will cause flare-up and new cases

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of asthma, deep tissue, lung damage, and emergency visit rooms.

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Studies show that the health and economics costs could be between 25.4 and 47.4 million dollars annually

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for the Paris facilities alone.

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Liz Morzfeld.

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Hi. Good evening. Thanks for listening to me.

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I'm Liz Morzfeld.

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Live at 3331 55th Court.

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I'm just going to say ditto on a lot of things everybody said

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because they kind of took everything I was going to say.

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But when I stop and think about the amount of energy that a data center would use

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and I'm assuming that we energies is going to have to build more power plants.

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So who's going to pay for that?

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That cost will probably pass on to the people.

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Plus then you talk about all the pollution and you talk about all the effects of the noise,

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which you could hear from miles away.

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I think that it's going to affect a lot of people in Kenosha, not just, you know, 10, 15 people.

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And I think that you should consider what the people in Kenosha think

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and try to get them more informed.

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And I think that you should do your due diligence also and get some information on it.

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You know, maybe have them moratorium or whatever and study on it and see what are some of the effects

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because, you know, that's a decision that shouldn't be made really fast.

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It is something that should be thought about and considered.

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And I would hope that all of you considering you represent the city of Kenosha

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will keep that in mind when you make these decisions.

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Thank you.

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David McLean.

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David McLean, 2020, 21st Street.

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Good evening, mayor and members of the common council.

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My name is David and I am a resident of Kenosha.

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I come before you tonight, not in anger, but to raise an urgent alarm regarding hidden financial crisis,

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quietly taking root in our neighborhoods.

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I believe this council cares deeply about the financial well-being of Kenosha families.

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This is why I need to share what is happening at the brand new dollar loan center location

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on June 24th at 2047 22nd Avenue.

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Many people look at these storefronts and assume they are just standard old school payday shops,

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but the reality is far more dangerous and our community desperately needs your help to intervene.

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Dollar loan center does not offer standard 35-day payday loans.

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Instead, they use a specific statutory loophole under Wisconsin statute section 138.09

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to issue open-ended signature loans.

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Because Wisconsin has no cap on interest rates for licensed lenders,

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these loans carry annual percentage rates that can exceed 400%.

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The truly malicious tactic is how the debt is engineered.

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There is no fixed payoff date. Instead, interest accumulates and compounds every single day.

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If a working-class resident in Kenosha borrows $1,500 to repair their car or cover rent,

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they are immediately hit with over $16 of interest every single day.

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If they fall behind, their monthly payments only cover the mounting daily interest,

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meaning they can pay for a year and still owe more than the day they walked in.

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It is a financial treadmill designed to trap vulnerable families in a cycle of permanent debt.

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Internal corporate documents reveal an operational culture that explicitly views our working-class neighborhoods

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as a resource to be heavily extracted.

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This store sits right in a high-density family corridor, right next to a daycare,

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and across the street from an elementary school.

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Rumors indicate that more locations are already being planned for Kenosha.

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Our community cannot survive this kind of economic drain, and we cannot fight a multi-state corporation alone.

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Sir, you have 30 seconds.

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We need our city leaders to step in as our shield.

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State law may control the financial licenses, but this common council controls the dirt.

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You have the zoning power, the ordinance power, and the code enforcement tools to protect our neighborhoods.

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We encourage you to work with us to draft emergency zoning restrictions,

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keep these high-interest storefronts away from our schools and daycares,

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and to enact a moratorium on the new permits before more of these traps open.

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Please look closely at these predatory mechanics, protect our families,

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and help us keep Kenosha's well where it belongs in the pocket of our hard-working residents.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Stephen Janiak.

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Hello, Stephen Janiak, 2605, 18th Avenue, Kenosha, Wisconsin.

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Hello, council members, and Mayor Bogdala.

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I believe that there should be a one-year moratorium on data centers being built in Kenosha.

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I'm concerned that we do not know the full environmental effects

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from these construction projects that are funded by these billion-dollar tech giants.

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The EPA and DNR may not have the proper guardrails in place,

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partly because they don't know what those even are at this point.

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It's sort of like building the airplane while you're flying it.

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Explosive growth is not necessarily good growth, especially when left unchecked

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and left to the folks that only have profits in mind.

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These large-scale projects bring minimal permanent jobs

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and the construction jobs associated with these data centers

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are not necessarily creating new jobs.

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They are merely taking away the already small pool of qualified trade workers

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from other construction projects.

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It delays other local projects as well as increasing bids

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for those less profitable jobs to get done.

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I'd like to know exactly what the benefits are to Kenosha's

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and we will see those proposed tax dollars fully available in our budget.

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What are the other benefits?

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I have not seen or heard from the city any information

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of what these benefits are.

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Clearly the public has questions and they are not being answered

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and that only builds mistrust.

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And the longer we don't get those answers,

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the more the public will push back.

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And this is not just the Kenosha issue that's happening all over our country.

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Again, I think there should be a one-year moratorium

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on this data center project just to take a step back

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and ensure that this is truly a positive thing for our community.

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Thank you for your time.

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Jerry Moore.

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Jerry Moore, 10, 9, 18, 69,

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St. Kenosha, Mayor David Dogdala and Council members.

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As I walk to my car on Juneteenth,

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I noticed the pollinator patch below me at the Lincoln Park Lagoon Bridge

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and I started thinking.

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These patches, as they're called, are being erected everywhere,

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mostly cooperatively with agencies and schools to educate our youth

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about stewardship and promote habitats and their sustainability.

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And they're being done cooperatively with community engagement

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with experts like Dave and Kristi at Root Pike Wind Watershed,

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Farmer Stephanie at Funken Farm,

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Kaylee at Gateway Center for Sustainability

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and Vijay at the UW Extension

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and through library organizational educational events.

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Because working with experts together matters

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to grow, learn, and bring varied expertise.

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As cooperatively, we reach, teach our kids the importance

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of interdependence, the Aldo Leopold land ethic

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of cooperative living in harmony and balance with nature

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and spread the important role that pollinators

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and the bees, like this lady mentioned before,

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bring and connect.

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Yet with data centers, I wrestle.

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I wrestle with how these habitats

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that we have been cooperatively encouraging,

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growing, working to build, and will withstand

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the development of data centers.

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And not just because of one or two builds here or there,

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but a corridor of builds all along the I-94 corridor

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that encroach, disrupt, demolish those green farmland

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knee-high fields in July and the patches of interdependence.

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We've been spending money on and teaching our kids to encourage.

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As the data centers raise temperatures, pollute air,

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and the EMF, or the electric and magnetic fields,

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disrupt habitats we've been trying to build.

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EMFs are invisible areas of energy invisible,

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often called radiation that are associated with the use

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of electrical power and various forms of natural and man-made lighting.

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They interfere with magnetic maps and the bees use for navigation,

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causing disorientation, and in some cases a total loss of foragers.

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So I would like to ask if there has been an environmental impact,

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and if so, please share with the community, bring in experts

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from all sides to discuss, hold community sessions

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and hold aldermanic district meetings and gatherings,

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like David Bogdala used to do in our district at Nash School,

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to allow input dialogue, conversation, and amoratorium,

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which will allow us all to have a voice and a vote in our community.

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Thank you.

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Scott Elberts.

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Good evening. My name's Scott Elberts. I live at 7822, 30th Avenue.

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Thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight.

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Progress has to be positive and profitable.

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I have been a Kenosha County resident since 1996,

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and I have lived in the city of Kenosha since 2002.

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I have an invested interest with Kenosha County and the city of Kenosha.

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I do not want to AI data center in the city.

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I do not want any more AI data centers being built.

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Wisconsin already has 50 centers throughout the state.

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I ask for the common cancel.

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I ask for you, Mayor, for amoratorium.

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I ask that your voices join with our voices as we raise concern

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to the district representatives, the state representatives,

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to our governor.

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I ask to join us and say no.

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One of my concerns is water usage.

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See, I originally come from El Paso, Texas.

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Water is precious and necessary when living in the desert.

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You grow accustomed to the lack of water usage and rotating water restrictions.

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It comes with the territory.

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Since I've lived in Kenosha, I have come to love the presence of water in this territory.

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I enjoy the opportunity to drive to the Lake Michigan and rivers and streams

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and other neighboring bodies of water. I enjoy water.

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It is a way of life, especially in Kenosha.

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I can see why the city of Kenosha was chosen as an ideal site.

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If I was a business and that's only dependent on constants

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and what seems an endless supply of water,

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this would be the perfect spot to build that business.

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But if I was that same business that's solely dependent on heavily relied

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on constant source of water from everyday operations,

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I at least would have the decency to publish my system for review.

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Not just to city developers behind closed doors,

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but to the citizens who would be directly affected unless I was a business

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that was hiding something.

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I fell in love with the southeastern corner of Wisconsin.

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I drive by that beautiful lake every day, going back and forth to work,

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and I am amazed and awestruck.

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Unfortunately, and lately, I am more concerned and awestruck.

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I have two questions to leave with you.

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Lake Michigan and the local ecosystem.

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How will this project affect Lake Michigan?

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Scott, you have 30 seconds.

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Thank you.

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Local water resources, wetlands and climate goals, wells.

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How will this project affect the well system and the families that depend on it

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and the rest of the data center imposes on the well drying up?

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Remember, it is okay to change your mind and say no to this proposal.

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It is okay to join the citizens of Kenosha and say no.

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Rachel Kirschner.

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Hello, I'm Rachel Kirschner.

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I live at 2613 136 Avenue in the town of Paris.

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I had a much longer speech prepared tonight.

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Being my third time here.

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All I have to say tonight is three-starred event residents have filed a class action lawsuit

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against Microsoft.

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I will say that again.

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Three-starred event residents have filed a class action lawsuit against Microsoft.

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Whether that lawsuit ultimately secedes isn't the point.

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The point is that enough people believe something is wrong that they are willing

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to take a global corporations to court.

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Shouldn't that make everyone of youth stop and think because here's what worries me.

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Mount Pleasant approved their data centers.

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Now, Kenosha is being asked to approve another one before we understand the full impacts of

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the first one.

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Why are we rushing?

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Why aren't we waiting for independent studies?

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Why aren't we learning from what's happening just a few miles away?

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Tonight I'm asking you to do something simple.

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Hit the pause button.

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Adopt a moratorium on new data centers until independent studies on infrared, infrasound,

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and low-frequency noises are completed and the community has real answers.

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Thank you.

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Colton Roberts.

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Hello, my name is Colton Roberts.

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I live at 4710 18th Avenue here in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

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I would like to start off by saying I agree with everything everyone said here today.

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The data center will be nothing but trouble for the city.

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But I'd like to bring up another topic to your attention, flat cameras.

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I don't know if anyone in here has done much research on them, but a few days ago it was

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revealed multiple higher-ups, including the VP of sales, who are using the flat cameras

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to look at children's gymnastics rooms and pool rooms in their capital of Savannah, Georgia.

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This is unacceptable.

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Multiple law enforcement agencies have come out and admitted that their officers have used

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flat camera for nefarious purposes, including the not so far away city of Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

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Two officers use them to track one wanted to track their ex and then one to track a

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proposed partner.

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They use the flat camera to track them down and stalk them.

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Now, here in Kenosha, we don't have that many flat cameras, but as I've driven to race

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scene, I have seen many, many more.

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And I'm scared of what these data centers and mass surveillance AI cameras will do to our

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people.

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Multiple studies have come out that show that putting up more cameras does not decrease

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crime.

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Decreasing crime crimes having a competent DA, notice respect.

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These cameras also do nothing but drain resources.

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I believe the city of Kenosha sends about $3,000 a year on one.

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Could we not give that to our officers?

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Solid pay raise, better training, more equipment?

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Maybe give that to our prison system so we can actually put criminals away.

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I have a daughter and I have another child on the way.

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I feel completely and totally exposed knowing every time I drive around one of my children

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may be used for nefarious purposes for some executive not in Georgia who will never face

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charges for their crimes, not only against God but against humanity.

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I understand wanting to have a safe society.

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I want one too, for my children, for myself, for my family.

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But the risks everyone's freedom for safety is unacceptable.

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I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said for he who once, for he who sacrifices freedom

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for safety deserves another both.

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I end my time.

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Thank y'all.

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Linnea Alerad.

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Good evening.

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My name is Linnea Alerad and I live at 8042 42nd Avenue in Kenosha.

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This week on Tuesday I had the privilege of sitting down with Mayor Baknala and speaking

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with him about the data center and my questions and concerns and I appreciate the information

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that was given.

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That was very helpful and your invitation for anybody who wants to talk to you about it

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to make an appointment with you.

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That evening, Tuesday night, I went to the program at the Rode Center with the panel

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of people who have intersections with data centers either through their professional experience

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or their personal experience and there was more good information to hear and to consider.

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And I don't know about you.

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I have never seen the Rode Theater packed to overfilling.

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That was an amazing turnout and an amazing audience.

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There were young parents with their small children, I mean small, young people with their

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hair dyed and their piercings and modern clothes and there were adults all the way up to senior

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citizens and it was wonderful to see so many people represented at that hearing.

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I don't know about you.

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In our country these days, for the last couple years we've had decision after decision after

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decision handed down that impact people's lives considerably.

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Handed down without thought for their concerns, without thought for their input and for what

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they would like to see happen and not have their lives negatively affected.

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To me, the meeting on Tuesday night said there were a lot of people in Kenosha who still

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want to be more informed about this data center.

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The attendance might have had something to do with the comedian but I will tell you nobody

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left.

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I didn't see anybody leave after the comedian and they all stayed through the entire panel discussion.

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I believe it's time to open up.

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Thank you.

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To the city as a whole, I think we need to have town hall meetings or something of the

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sort to give people a chance to voice their concerns, have their questions answered to be

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informed, to be included, to be a part of this decision of what affects their community.

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Thank you.

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Hi, Sage Holloway, 4,500 10th Ave.

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I'm confident my abridged comments will be meaningful.

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Let's just go right into it.

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I don't want a data center in my backyard.

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You get a lot of pushback and you need buy-in from the community because you have to get

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permits.

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You're not really getting a ton of community benefit from having a data center in your

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backyard.

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Those are not my words.

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By the way, those are actually, again, abridged, but direct quotation from Lindy Stone and

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attorney at Microsoft.

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Now, I want to draw your attention to another past situation.

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In 1948, DuPont built a plant in Washington, Virginia.

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They manufactured C8, which was used to make Teflon.

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By 1984, high levels of C8 were found in the local drinking water.

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In the 90s, a farmer by the name of Earl Tennant took things into his own hands after noticing

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mysterious symptoms in his cattle with over 150 of his livestock dying.

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By 1999, internal documents came to light that proved that the company knowingly dumped

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toxic waste into the waterways and that they did not inform regulators, nor citizens, nor

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legislators, such as yourselves.

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DuPont ended up paying over a billion dollars total in settlements between class action

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lawsuits and the early 2000s, all the way to personal injury claims that got paid out

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up until actually pretty recently.

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When Tennant, that farmer, initially lawyered up, he was shunned by the community.

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After all, DuPont had brought so many jobs to the area and the influence on the local

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community and the development that it brought.

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Everyone was aware of that.

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Now, eventually, the truth did come out.

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Thousands of West Virginians died before they even saw anything resembling justice.

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I bring up that example, not because it is a direct comparison.

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We all know that the AI revolution is not the same as a materials company in 1948.

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However, what it brings to you today is the idea that we cannot trust what Microsoft is

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pitching to us when they develop here.

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If Ms. Stone, that lovely lawyer from the beginning of my speech, is willing to say on

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camera that she doesn't want a data center in her backyard, then what might she be saying

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when she's not being filmed?

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Sage, you have 30 seconds.

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Thank you.

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From what I quoted earlier, it feels like the satisfaction.

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It feels like our satisfaction is a box to check for someone like Microsoft, rather than

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our approval to earn as citizens and as lawmakers, even as elected officials.

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Let's not mistake corporate innovation for community enrichment.

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Let's not make the same mistake that Washington, Virginia did.

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Let's take our time to invest in making the best decision for our community for Kenosha.

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Moratorium now, since I'm running out of time, let's all leave it.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, Lou Ragani.

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Good evening.

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I'm Louis Ragani.

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I live in 4526, 29th Avenue, and it was a year ago I was here, and I thought I'd rehash

01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:42.000
that topic once again.

01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:48.000
Maybe sour grapes if you want to call it that, but it happened right here in this room 11

01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:52.000
years ago tonight when the Lakota group went down.

01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:53.000
I see nods.

01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.000
Thank you.

01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:58.600
Lakota group started out about 2010, and the city was behind it.

01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:03.960
All the referendums and all the votes and all the different venues that told about the

01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:09.240
downtown study and this expensive Lakota group study that was really pretty comprehensive

01:16:09.240 --> 01:16:14.440
and still exists somewhere in the files, and the council at that time thought what we'll

01:16:14.440 --> 01:16:19.840
do is take a vote now that we're not going to abandon this as we did so many other studies,

01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:21.360
so many studies in the files.

01:16:21.360 --> 01:16:26.000
So I vote now, whatever the Lakota group comes up with, I vote for it.

01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.720
I maintain that we support it.

01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:29.720
Okay.

01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:31.280
I'm coming to the punchline on that.

01:16:31.280 --> 01:16:34.520
There's always a punchline, isn't there?

01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:40.520
Punchline that on this day in this room, the Lakota group was washed away because the

01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:48.440
we energies wanted five million bucks to replace wires that were under the street that

01:16:48.440 --> 01:16:52.600
they didn't even know existed as it turned out there weren't any wires.

01:16:52.600 --> 01:16:56.600
One of the alderman got a letter on a Friday brought it down here on a Wednesdays.

01:16:56.600 --> 01:17:01.480
Apparently, the alderman took the choke and said, wait a minute, five million bucks?

01:17:01.480 --> 01:17:08.280
Oh, I vote no, I vote no, I, no, no, five million, two years later they spent two million bucks

01:17:08.280 --> 01:17:17.840
to pave sixth avenue between 58th street and 59th place.

01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:24.200
That five million bucks would have covered the Lakota group and it's 10 and a half million

01:17:24.200 --> 01:17:29.800
dollars study that would have paved three and a half miles of streets in Kenosha.

01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:30.880
You ever get any phone calls?

01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:33.360
Why do we fix the streets?

01:17:33.360 --> 01:17:37.600
I see nods, subliminal nods, but nods nonetheless.

01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:42.720
The Burnham Road over here, 8th Avenue would even have paved that and see the city finally

01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:44.120
did that.

01:17:44.120 --> 01:17:49.800
That and lead streetcar tracks for a public transportation system for the entire downtown

01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:56.040
area with the new burgeoning downtown that I thank everybody, congratulate you all along

01:17:56.040 --> 01:17:58.520
with the cobalt partners for making it happen.

01:17:58.520 --> 01:18:00.880
We're coming into the big leagues.

01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:01.880
Thanks to you?

01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:03.280
Sir, you have 30 seconds.

01:18:03.280 --> 01:18:07.560
And the planners, it was all lost, I would have paved every street and we even had a

01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:12.640
street car line for a five million bucks.

01:18:12.640 --> 01:18:19.760
Oh, thank you for all you do and I wish you all a pleasant and productive evening and

01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:22.240
keep working on the Eagles Club.

01:18:22.240 --> 01:18:28.640
That property is far more, far more known throughout the world than is the ballroom

01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:31.600
in Surf City, Iowa, was it clearly?

01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:35.600
Okay, we'll be back.

01:18:39.200 --> 01:18:40.640
Thank you, please continue.

01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:44.640
Be Communications, petitions, reports of departments, B1 approval of the following

01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:49.440
applications, A87 operator's licenses, B1 taxi driver's license, C1 successor of

01:18:49.440 --> 01:18:53.760
agent status license, T3 amusement and recreation requires supervisor licenses.

01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:56.800
Gentlemen, from 10th.

01:18:56.800 --> 01:19:00.080
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, make a motion to concur with the recommendation of license and affirmative

01:19:00.080 --> 01:19:01.080
to approve.

01:19:01.080 --> 01:19:02.080
Second.

01:19:02.080 --> 01:19:04.080
I make a motion to approve.

01:19:06.080 --> 01:19:08.320
It's been moved and seconded to approve.

01:19:08.320 --> 01:19:11.040
Any discussion on the motion?

01:19:11.040 --> 01:19:12.960
Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:13.960
Aye.

01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:14.960
Any opposed?

01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:15.960
Motion carries.

01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:19.480
B2, communication from the City Clerk regarding beer and or liquor licenses declared null

01:19:19.480 --> 01:19:22.240
and void for failure to renew.

01:19:22.240 --> 01:19:23.560
Gentlemen from the 10th.

01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:25.760
I make a motion to receive and file.

01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:27.760
Seconded.

01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:28.760
Seconded to receive and file aye.

01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:29.760
Any discussion?

01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:32.760
Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:33.760
Aye.

01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:34.760
Any opposed?

01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:35.760
Motion carries.

01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:38.480
See recommendations from the Committee on Licenses and Permits, C1 applications for

01:19:38.480 --> 01:19:41.840
renew operators' licenses to be effective July 7, 2026.

01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:46.120
A, Justine, Blackstorff, 10, B, Suzanne Cruz, 50.

01:19:46.120 --> 01:19:47.120
Gentlemen from the 10th.

01:19:47.120 --> 01:19:48.120
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

01:19:48.120 --> 01:19:53.560
I make a motion to approve C1, C2 and C3 after being read in a necessary applicant or public

01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:54.560
hearing.

01:19:55.560 --> 01:20:00.480
C2 application of Sonja Keenan for a new taxi driver license, C3 applications for a temporary

01:20:00.480 --> 01:20:04.200
outdoor extension of a Class B beer, Class B liquor license with no adverse recommendations

01:20:04.200 --> 01:20:12.440
from the Police Department, ABFW Post 1865 located at 6618 39th Avenue on July 11, 2026.

01:20:12.440 --> 01:20:18.440
BTK Kenosha LLC located at 7,074th Place on September 18, 2026.

01:20:18.440 --> 01:20:19.440
Okay.

01:20:19.440 --> 01:20:24.120
Motion on the floor is approval of C1 through C3.

01:20:24.120 --> 01:20:26.000
I'd like to sign, open up to a hearing.

01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:32.440
Anyone here speak on C1, 2, or 3, please come forward, state your name and address.

01:20:32.440 --> 01:20:37.880
Hello, my name is Sonja Keenan.

01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:40.880
I don't know if you have any questions for me.

01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:41.880
Can we get your license, Sonja?

01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:42.880
Wait, what?

01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:44.520
I mean, your address, please.

01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:45.520
I'm sorry?

01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:48.280
605 60th Street and it's for a taxi license.

01:20:48.280 --> 01:20:49.280
Okay.

01:20:49.280 --> 01:20:51.280
Thank you.

01:20:51.280 --> 01:20:54.760
If there's any questions from the council, we'll call you back up.

01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:55.760
All right.

01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:57.240
Thank you.

01:20:57.240 --> 01:21:00.040
Anyone else on C1, 2, or 3?

01:21:00.040 --> 01:21:01.040
Anyone else?

01:21:01.040 --> 01:21:02.040
Anyone else seeing none?

01:21:02.040 --> 01:21:03.040
Close to the hearing.

01:21:03.040 --> 01:21:04.760
Motion on the floor is approval.

01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:06.720
Any discussion?

01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:07.720
Seeing none.

01:21:07.720 --> 01:21:08.720
All those in favor say aye.

01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:09.720
Aye.

01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:10.720
Any opposed?

01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:11.720
Motion carries.

01:21:11.720 --> 01:21:16.200
C4 application of Ilan Events LLC for a new Class B beer, Class B liquor license located

01:21:16.200 --> 01:21:22.080
at 62557 Street Suite 101 with no adverse recommendations from the police department.

01:21:22.080 --> 01:21:23.440
Gentlemen, from the 10th.

01:21:23.440 --> 01:21:24.440
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

01:21:24.440 --> 01:21:28.960
I make a motion to concur with the recommendation license permit for C4, C5, and C6 after being

01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:33.800
read and unnecessary applicant hearings.

01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:39.800
C5 application of MLJ Kenosha LLC for a yearly cabaret license located at 3221, 6C a street

01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:42.440
with no adverse recommendations from the police department.

01:21:42.440 --> 01:21:47.760
C6 renewal application of Marge, Petro, LLC for a Class B beer, Class A beer license

01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:54.600
located at 4433, 22nd Avenue with no adverse recommendations from the police department.

01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:59.800
Okay, that was 6-2.

01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:02.680
Okay, at this time, open up to a hearing.

01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:05.440
Anyone here speaking item C4, 5, or 6?

01:22:05.440 --> 01:22:06.440
Please come forward.

01:22:06.440 --> 01:22:08.080
State your name and address.

01:22:08.080 --> 01:22:11.200
Anyone here speak on C4, 5, or 6?

01:22:11.200 --> 01:22:12.200
Anyone here speak?

01:22:12.200 --> 01:22:13.200
Seeing none.

01:22:13.200 --> 01:22:14.200
Coles are hearing.

01:22:14.200 --> 01:22:15.200
Motion on the floor.

01:22:15.200 --> 01:22:16.200
It's concurrence.

01:22:16.200 --> 01:22:17.200
Any discussion?

01:22:17.200 --> 01:22:18.200
Seeing none.

01:22:18.200 --> 01:22:25.120
Would you like to know?

01:22:25.120 --> 01:22:26.120
What's that tell you?

01:22:26.120 --> 01:22:27.120
Actually, you know what?

01:22:27.120 --> 01:22:36.720
I know I can't even, when I scroll down, I can't even see him.

01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:45.240
Why, he's working on that.

01:22:45.240 --> 01:22:49.760
Can you please use Dominic's check, go ahead.

01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:53.960
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:57.760
I just need you to abstain from C5 for a conflict of interest.

01:22:57.760 --> 01:22:58.760
Thank you.

01:22:58.760 --> 01:22:59.760
Okay.

01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:02.440
We'll be noted.

01:23:02.440 --> 01:23:07.160
Any other, all the persons on C4, 5, or 6?

01:23:07.160 --> 01:23:10.760
With seeing none, motion on the floor is concurrence.

01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:12.200
All those in favor say aye.

01:23:12.200 --> 01:23:13.200
Aye.

01:23:13.200 --> 01:23:14.200
Any opposed?

01:23:14.200 --> 01:23:15.200
Motion carries.

01:23:15.200 --> 01:23:16.680
E ordinance is first reading.

01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:21.480
E1 ordinance by the Mayor to repeal and create chapter 5.119 recycling of the Code of General

01:23:21.480 --> 01:23:25.400
Ordices for the City of Kenosha Public Works recommended to approve 5-0.

01:23:25.400 --> 01:23:29.400
I'm in gentleman for a third.

01:23:29.400 --> 01:23:30.400
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:23:30.400 --> 01:23:35.960
I move to send E1, E2, and F1 on their way after being read.

01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:36.960
Second.

01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:42.560
E2 ordinance by the Mayor to amend subsection 2.06 of the Code of General Ordinances for

01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:47.280
the City of Kenosha regarding payment by non-sufficient fund checks, finance recommended to approve

01:23:47.280 --> 01:23:48.280
5-0.

01:23:48.280 --> 01:23:51.800
F zoning ordinance is first reading, F1 zoning ordinance by the City Planning Commission to

01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:57.360
re-peeling, re-create section 2 of re-zoning ordinance 17-24 to re-zone the property at

01:23:57.360 --> 01:24:04.280
5403, 7th Avenue, 5413, 7th Avenue, 610, 55th Street, 618, 55th Street, and 620, 55th

01:24:04.280 --> 01:24:09.200
Street from B3 Central Business District and IP institutional park district to B5 downtown

01:24:09.200 --> 01:24:13.720
mixed use district in conformance with section 10.82 of the zoning ordinance.

01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:18.320
Okay, motion on the floor is sent E1 through F1 on their way.

01:24:18.320 --> 01:24:19.320
Any discussion?

01:24:19.320 --> 01:24:20.320
Seeing none.

01:24:20.320 --> 01:24:21.320
All those in favor say aye.

01:24:21.320 --> 01:24:22.320
Any opposed?

01:24:22.320 --> 01:24:23.320
Motion carries.

01:24:23.320 --> 01:24:24.320
Aye.

01:24:24.320 --> 01:24:25.320
Resolutions.

01:24:25.320 --> 01:24:26.320
Aye.

01:24:26.320 --> 01:24:29.600
One resolution by the Finance Committee to correct resolution 51-26.

01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:33.840
Finance recommended to approve 5-0 and Public Works recommended to approve 5-0.

01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:35.640
Gentlemen, from the 13th.

01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:36.640
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:42.600
I move to concur what the Finance Committee recommendations on Aye One and Aye Two after

01:24:42.600 --> 01:24:43.600
being read.

01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:44.600
Second.

01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:48.880
Aye Two resolution by the Mayor authorizing execution of the Department of Natural Resources

01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:54.240
principle for given financial assistance agreements, finance, and Board of Water Commissioners

01:24:54.240 --> 01:24:56.240
approved 5-0.

01:24:56.240 --> 01:24:57.240
Okay.

01:24:57.240 --> 01:24:59.440
Motion on the floor is concurrence.

01:24:59.440 --> 01:25:01.520
Any discussion?

01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:02.520
Seeing none.

01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:03.520
All those in favor vote aye.

01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:04.520
Those opposed?

01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:05.520
No.

01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:16.760
Roll call please.

01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:17.760
Motion carries 15-0.

01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:21.960
Aye Three resolution by the Committee on Public Works to order the cost of public sidewalk

01:25:21.960 --> 01:25:26.400
and drive-away approach construction and or replacement to be specially assessed to abutting

01:25:26.400 --> 01:25:31.880
property for Project 26-1040, 27th Avenue and 24th Avenue resurfacing.

01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:34.320
Public Works recommended to approve 4-0.

01:25:34.320 --> 01:25:35.320
Lady from the 8th.

01:25:35.320 --> 01:25:40.680
Yes, I move to concur with the Public Works Committee on item I-3.

01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:45.840
It's been moved and second to concur with Public Works on I-3.

01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:48.200
Any discussion?

01:25:48.200 --> 01:25:49.200
Seeing none.

01:25:49.200 --> 01:25:52.640
All those in favor of Board aye, those, I'm sorry.

01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:53.640
Thank you.

01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:56.040
Time to open it up to a public hearing.

01:25:56.040 --> 01:25:58.880
Anybody here speaking item I-3?

01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:01.320
Anybody here speaking item I-3?

01:26:01.320 --> 01:26:03.000
Anybody here speaking seeing none?

01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:04.560
Close the public hearing.

01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:06.360
Motion on the floor is concurrence.

01:26:06.360 --> 01:26:14.680
Roll call please.

01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:18.200
Motion carries 15-0.

01:26:18.200 --> 01:26:22.100
Aye Four resolution by the Mayor to approve a one-lot certified survey map for property

01:26:22.100 --> 01:26:29.040
located on 52nd Street and 41st Avenue Public Works recommended to approve 4-1.

01:26:29.040 --> 01:26:35.960
I'm going to come to you, gentlemen, from the third.

01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:38.840
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:47.480
I move to concur with the City Plan Commission recommendation for approval on I-4.

01:26:47.480 --> 01:26:48.480
Second.

01:26:48.480 --> 01:26:49.480
Okay.

01:26:49.480 --> 01:26:54.560
It's been moved and second to concur with City Plan Commission.

01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:56.120
Gentlemen from the 10th.

01:26:56.120 --> 01:26:57.120
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

01:26:57.120 --> 01:27:01.480
If you look in your backup, you will see that as part of the documentation.

01:27:01.480 --> 01:27:04.200
There was a deferral at City Plan.

01:27:04.200 --> 01:27:05.960
I didn't ask for that deferral.

01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:12.800
I'd made my comments known to members of the Committee and to the Mayor, but that deferral

01:27:12.800 --> 01:27:16.000
was given due to my work schedule.

01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:22.600
I could not make either one of those meetings, but I guess thank you for that.

01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:25.840
I'm against this and I'm asking you to vote no.

01:27:25.840 --> 01:27:32.720
There's no one in the 10th district that is asking for a third auto-part center.

01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:39.640
At Public Works, it was mentioned that this was an expansion of a, that's incorrect.

01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:46.880
We have advance, we have Riley's, and this will be an auto zone within right across the

01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:48.640
street from each other.

01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:53.840
No one in my district is asking for three auto-part centers.

01:27:53.840 --> 01:27:58.840
Now, I understand that we do not determine who wins in the market.

01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:00.080
The market determines that.

01:28:00.080 --> 01:28:03.840
And I believe in the market.

01:28:03.840 --> 01:28:07.120
My first concern is one, no one's asking for this.

01:28:07.120 --> 01:28:11.280
Two, I already have two auto-part centers in the area.

01:28:11.280 --> 01:28:22.400
If one of these three fail due to the market, now I have an empty commercial building on

01:28:22.400 --> 01:28:27.960
52nd street again.

01:28:27.960 --> 01:28:31.840
It took years for Burger King to be reoccupied.

01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:36.720
And in that period of time, the building was vandalized.

01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:39.840
It became an eyesore.

01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:50.800
It had numerous calls for cleanup, which took city resources, city time.

01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:56.200
We can avoid all of that by voting no now.

01:28:56.200 --> 01:29:03.480
There's no need, there's no demand for a third auto-part center.

01:29:03.480 --> 01:29:11.480
Now, I know one of the comments made was there's, there are storage units all up and down 52nd

01:29:11.480 --> 01:29:12.480
street.

01:29:12.480 --> 01:29:13.480
Okay.

01:29:13.480 --> 01:29:14.480
There are.

01:29:14.480 --> 01:29:17.160
I don't think those are highest or best use for those properties.

01:29:17.160 --> 01:29:24.680
I can't tell a private owner what to do with their property.

01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:29.920
And you would say, well, where the Kmart is, that's a storage center.

01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:34.240
And where Walmart used to be, that's U-Haul, which storage centers.

01:29:34.240 --> 01:29:35.400
So what's the problem?

01:29:35.400 --> 01:29:41.960
Well, I would say the problem is this is a different entity.

01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:48.800
I don't know what the occupancy rate is for the three storage units that are along 52nd

01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:51.760
street in my district.

01:29:52.760 --> 01:29:56.920
However, I will go back to reiterating my first point.

01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:04.480
I do not need three auto parts places right across the street from each other.

01:30:04.480 --> 01:30:06.120
I'd ask you to vote no.

01:30:06.120 --> 01:30:08.400
Thank you.

01:30:08.400 --> 01:30:09.400
Thank you, sir.

01:30:09.400 --> 01:30:10.400
Gentlemen from the 16th.

01:30:10.400 --> 01:30:11.400
Yeah.

01:30:11.400 --> 01:30:12.400
Thank you, Mr. Kennedy.

01:30:12.400 --> 01:30:20.040
All the first in Kennedy, thank you.

01:30:21.040 --> 01:30:29.000
I'm going to vote, yes, I voted, yes, on licensed City Planning Commission.

01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:31.840
Only the strong survive.

01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:36.240
Some people like the brewers, I myself like the Yankees.

01:30:36.240 --> 01:30:45.480
Yes, there is three storage units, facilities on 57th street.

01:30:45.480 --> 01:30:56.200
Pretty soon, you want us to tell Walgreens that CVS pharmacy can't go next to Walgreens?

01:30:56.200 --> 01:31:00.680
Oh, no.

01:31:00.680 --> 01:31:10.320
This is a new auto parts start, it's going to be a bigger facility so they could supply

01:31:10.320 --> 01:31:16.000
quickly to City of Kenosha's needs.

01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:22.440
If Mr. Kennedy doesn't want to end his district, I welcome it in the 16th district.

01:31:22.440 --> 01:31:26.920
I'm for businesses.

01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:35.800
If a business becomes vacant, Kenosha's a hot market, the hottest in the United States.

01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:41.000
It's not 1980 anymore.

01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:51.640
We can't say that they can't build it there, we can't.

01:31:51.640 --> 01:31:55.800
Like I said, the strongest will survive, will they all survive?

01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:56.800
Maybe.

01:31:56.800 --> 01:31:59.960
A good possibility.

01:31:59.960 --> 01:32:05.400
We can't determine that at this point and or ever.

01:32:05.400 --> 01:32:12.280
If they have a right to build, they came in front of the committee, made a good presentation,

01:32:12.280 --> 01:32:15.280
and there is a need for that business.

01:32:15.280 --> 01:32:18.280
Otherwise, they wouldn't do it.

01:32:18.280 --> 01:32:21.440
They're investing their own money.

01:32:21.440 --> 01:32:22.680
I'm all for it.

01:32:22.680 --> 01:32:23.680
Thank you.

01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:25.760
Thank you, sir.

01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:27.240
Gentlemen from the 11th.

01:32:27.240 --> 01:32:31.720
Yes, I agree with my colleague to my left here.

01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:35.240
We don't need another parts store there.

01:32:35.240 --> 01:32:39.000
This is the main thoroughfare to the city of Kenosha downtown.

01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:44.480
I think we need something more different than all the parts store.

01:32:44.480 --> 01:32:50.240
It's just too many there.

01:32:50.240 --> 01:32:51.240
Thank you, sir.

01:32:51.240 --> 01:32:54.840
Gentlemen from the 17th.

01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:56.240
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

01:32:56.240 --> 01:32:58.080
Just a couple of comments here.

01:32:59.080 --> 01:33:04.480
I think it's kind of rich that we have all the people, which I respect greatly, dictating

01:33:04.480 --> 01:33:07.600
what kind of businesses come in and out of our city.

01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:14.360
I question, how many businesses has the Alderman from the 10th ever built or run?

01:33:14.360 --> 01:33:19.560
As a consumer, I love competition, love capitalism, I love choices.

01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:25.160
For my personal experience, I've built a business, a successful business for the past 15 years,

01:33:25.160 --> 01:33:29.960
with eight competitors, within a two minute walk of my business, including one across

01:33:29.960 --> 01:33:35.480
the street directly and one at the corner of my block directly.

01:33:35.480 --> 01:33:38.840
My customers don't seem to mind any of their choices.

01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:40.320
We're talking about auto parts.

01:33:40.320 --> 01:33:46.520
We're not talking about some controversial industry that would affect the name and the

01:33:46.520 --> 01:33:47.840
reputation of Kenosha.

01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:53.440
So I'm in favor of letting them try it out and see what happens if it fails.

01:33:53.440 --> 01:33:54.440
It fails.

01:33:54.520 --> 01:33:55.440
American capitalism.

01:33:55.440 --> 01:33:56.440
Thank you.

01:33:56.440 --> 01:33:57.440
Thank you, sir.

01:33:57.440 --> 01:34:01.080
John, we're from the 10th.

01:34:01.080 --> 01:34:03.080
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

01:34:03.080 --> 01:34:07.800
Through the mayor to the city attorney, do we have the right to say no?

01:34:07.800 --> 01:34:14.160
Or should we just rubber stamp this and go for it as it was implied by the Alderman

01:34:14.160 --> 01:34:18.520
person of the 16th district?

01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:22.240
You have a right to evaluate the application and make a decision.

01:34:22.240 --> 01:34:23.240
Yes, sir.

01:34:23.240 --> 01:34:28.720
Thank you, sir.

01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:35.320
Any more lights?

01:34:35.320 --> 01:34:41.400
Seeing none, Mosha on the floor is concurrence with City Planning Commission to approve.

01:34:41.400 --> 01:34:49.400
Roll call, please.

01:34:49.400 --> 01:35:04.560
Motion carries, 10 to 5.

01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:09.760
I-5 resolution by the principal sponsor, Alderman, Rocco Lamakia, to increase the number of licensed

01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:14.440
towers utilized for towing service by the Kenosha City Police Department.

01:35:14.440 --> 01:35:15.440
Jim from the 5th.

01:35:15.440 --> 01:35:16.440
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:35:16.440 --> 01:35:21.960
Well, on I-5 and I-6, we as a committee for Public Safety and Welfare approved it unanimously,

01:35:21.960 --> 01:35:25.000
so I'd like to change that from just my name.

01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:30.160
Well, let's stick with, unless you're going to make a motion on both, sir.

01:35:30.160 --> 01:35:31.160
Yes, please.

01:35:31.160 --> 01:35:36.560
I'm going to make a motion to concur with Public Safety and Welfare.

01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:37.560
Correct.

01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:38.560
On both of them.

01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:39.560
Okay.

01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:42.160
Instead of changing my name, I'd like the whole committee on it.

01:35:42.160 --> 01:35:46.200
I'd like to speak at it further once we get going on.

01:35:46.200 --> 01:35:52.040
If you'd like to make that motion on your laptop, sir, to approve as, or concur with

01:35:52.040 --> 01:35:54.040
Public Safety and Welfare, correct?

01:35:54.040 --> 01:35:55.040
Yes, sir.

01:35:55.040 --> 01:35:56.040
Thank you.

01:35:56.040 --> 01:35:57.040
Is there a second?

01:35:57.040 --> 01:35:58.040
Second.

01:35:58.040 --> 01:35:59.040
Okay.

01:35:59.040 --> 01:36:00.040
General from the 5th, you have the floor.

01:36:00.040 --> 01:36:02.960
Actually, the motion is to approve I-5 and I-6, correct?

01:36:02.960 --> 01:36:03.960
Correct.

01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:04.960
Yes, sir.

01:36:04.960 --> 01:36:06.320
Can we have the clerk read I-6 and I'll give you the floor, sir.

01:36:06.320 --> 01:36:07.320
Thank you.

01:36:07.320 --> 01:36:14.800
Yes, so to clarify, you're going to concur with Public Safety and Welfare to approve as amended,

01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:15.800
as amended.

01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:16.800
Yes, as amended.

01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:17.800
Okay.

01:36:17.800 --> 01:36:18.800
Thank you.

01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:21.960
And the amendment is resolution by the Public Safety and Welfare Committee.

01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:22.960
Thank you.

01:36:22.960 --> 01:36:23.960
Okay.

01:36:23.960 --> 01:36:24.960
I-6.

01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:30.280
Then resolution by the Public Safety and Welfare Committee to authorize community service officers

01:36:30.280 --> 01:36:36.800
to cite for parking violations under Section 11.15 of the City of Kenosha General Ordinances.

01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:37.800
All right.

01:36:37.800 --> 01:36:39.080
John, from the 5th, you have the floor.

01:36:39.080 --> 01:36:40.080
Thank you, Chief.

01:36:40.080 --> 01:36:44.640
Could you come up to the podium, please?

01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:48.080
Thank you, sir.

01:36:48.080 --> 01:36:51.400
First of all, let's go to I-5 towing.

01:36:51.400 --> 01:36:54.880
We went from, what, 5 to 6 or 6 to 7?

01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:56.720
So we list five companies.

01:36:56.720 --> 01:37:03.560
We actually have seven vendors, three of which are followed by the Jans name.

01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:04.560
Okay.

01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:07.360
And this is a benefit to you guys, correct?

01:37:07.360 --> 01:37:08.360
Correct.

01:37:08.360 --> 01:37:13.080
For snow emergencies, auto accidents, all the above, pretty much.

01:37:13.080 --> 01:37:17.800
Yes, highlighted in the letter I wrote, you know, public safety during snow emergencies,

01:37:17.800 --> 01:37:22.680
major crashes, reduce on-scene time for officers, firefighters and motorists, and then help

01:37:22.680 --> 01:37:25.080
us know removal and traffic management.

01:37:25.080 --> 01:37:26.080
Thank you.

01:37:26.080 --> 01:37:28.960
Now we'll go to I-6.

01:37:28.960 --> 01:37:33.520
Tell everybody what this community center officers will be allowed to do.

01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:38.600
So right now they can only write citations under Chapter 7, but we have the authority

01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:47.160
through Wisconsin State Statues, 800.02 to have them write tickets under other sections

01:37:47.160 --> 01:37:51.200
of our ordinances, including 11.15, so they'd be able to write tickets for vehicles parked

01:37:51.200 --> 01:37:55.040
in lawn rather than being called to the scene and then having to call an officer right

01:37:55.040 --> 01:37:58.280
after because it needed to be a sworn officer to write it.

01:37:58.280 --> 01:38:02.280
So again, this is beneficial to the whole community, especially your department.

01:38:02.280 --> 01:38:04.440
Yeah, it's going to free up resources.

01:38:04.440 --> 01:38:05.440
Thank you, Chief.

01:38:05.440 --> 01:38:09.680
Appreciate the input.

01:38:09.680 --> 01:38:12.680
That's it, sir.

01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:14.720
All right.

01:38:14.720 --> 01:38:16.200
Gentlemen from the 10th.

01:38:16.200 --> 01:38:17.200
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

01:38:17.200 --> 01:38:22.000
I was just wondering, where are we in reference to the licensing fee, the towing fees?

01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:24.440
There was discussion about increasing them.

01:38:24.440 --> 01:38:25.640
Did we take care of that?

01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:27.600
I kind of lost the thread there.

01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:28.600
Sure.

01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:29.600
An answer is no.

01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:34.280
We're still evaluating those, but we are working on that.

01:38:34.280 --> 01:38:35.280
Thanks.

01:38:35.280 --> 01:38:37.120
Gentlemen from the 1st.

01:38:37.120 --> 01:38:38.120
Just put a border.

01:38:38.120 --> 01:38:44.680
Did you get to the gentleman, the 5th, did you get your change of what I make, the change

01:38:44.680 --> 01:38:47.280
of spots, shifting from you to the committee?

01:38:47.280 --> 01:38:51.560
Motion that was made was as amended by Public Safety Law for us, the gentleman motion was

01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:52.560
correct, sir?

01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:53.560
That was on the record.

01:38:53.560 --> 01:38:54.560
Thank you.

01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:55.560
Thank you.

01:38:55.560 --> 01:38:56.560
Okay.

01:38:56.560 --> 01:38:59.920
Motion on the floor is concurrence with Public Safety and Welfare.

01:38:59.920 --> 01:39:01.920
Roll call, please.

01:39:01.920 --> 01:39:07.200
Motion's I-5 and I-6.

01:39:07.200 --> 01:39:27.120
All in person, Pizala.

01:39:27.120 --> 01:39:30.960
Motion carries 14 to 0.

01:39:30.960 --> 01:39:34.200
J appointments, reappointments by the Mayor, J-1 appointment of Raymond Cameron to the

01:39:34.200 --> 01:39:38.520
Transit Commission to bill an expired term that will begin on July 7, 2026 and will expire

01:39:38.520 --> 01:39:42.080
on June 7, 2029.

01:39:42.080 --> 01:39:44.440
How about gentlemen from the 10th?

01:39:44.440 --> 01:39:48.880
Mr. Mayor, make a motion to approve item J-1.

01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:51.280
Anything else, sir?

01:39:51.280 --> 01:39:52.280
Sure.

01:39:52.280 --> 01:39:56.880
Item J-2, after being read any necessary hearings.

01:39:56.880 --> 01:40:03.320
J-2, reappointment of Sean Algros to the Kenosha Housing Authority to fill an expired term that

01:40:03.320 --> 01:40:08.840
will begin July 7, 2026 and will expire June 30, 2031.

01:40:08.840 --> 01:40:09.840
Gentlemen from the 10th.

01:40:09.840 --> 01:40:13.360
I just wanted to extend a thank you to the Mayor and the City Administration for their

01:40:13.360 --> 01:40:20.120
efforts in helping Mr. Cameron get reappointed, so I wanted to thank you for that.

01:40:20.120 --> 01:40:21.120
Thank you, sir.

01:40:21.120 --> 01:40:22.120
Anyone else?

01:40:22.120 --> 01:40:25.400
Motion on the floor is approval of J-1 and J-2.

01:40:25.400 --> 01:40:47.520
Call call, please.

01:40:47.520 --> 01:40:49.160
Motion carries 15-0.

01:40:49.160 --> 01:40:51.520
K-public construction and improvement contracts.

01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:57.640
K-1, award of contract for project 26-1040, 27th Avenue and 24th Avenue resurfacing.

01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:03.440
Two cornerstone papers LLC in the amount of $517,000, public works and stormwater utility

01:41:03.440 --> 01:41:05.280
recommended to approve 5-0.

01:41:05.280 --> 01:41:06.440
Lady, from the 8th.

01:41:06.440 --> 01:41:11.280
Yes, I move to concur with the Public Works Committee on item K-1.

01:41:11.280 --> 01:41:16.120
Moving to second to concur with Public Works on K-1.

01:41:16.120 --> 01:41:17.120
Any discussion?

01:41:17.120 --> 01:41:20.520
Seeing none, all those in favor of vote aye, those opposed?

01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:33.320
No, roll call, please.

01:41:33.320 --> 01:41:34.320
Motion carries 15-0.

01:41:34.320 --> 01:41:37.320
L, other contracts and agreements.

01:41:37.320 --> 01:41:41.000
L, one approval of leased renewal agreement between the City of Kenosha, Wisconsin and

01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:42.000
93-90 partnership.

01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:43.000
LLC number 93-90.

01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:46.000
Finance recommended to approve 5-0.

01:41:46.000 --> 01:41:47.000
Gentlemen, from 13th.

01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:52.680
Move to concur with the Finance Committee recommendations on L-1 and L-2, after being

01:41:52.680 --> 01:41:53.680
read.

01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:54.680
Second.

01:41:54.680 --> 01:41:59.240
L-2 approval of leased renewal agreement between the City of Kenosha, Wisconsin and Southport

01:41:59.240 --> 01:42:03.440
Hanger, Condominium Association, Inc number 95-30.

01:42:03.440 --> 01:42:05.560
Finance recommended to approve 5-0.

01:42:05.560 --> 01:42:10.160
Okay, motion on the floor is concurrence of Finance in L-1 and L-2.

01:42:10.160 --> 01:42:12.160
Roll call, please.

01:42:12.160 --> 01:42:20.800
Motion carries 15-0.

01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:26.360
L-3 property use agreement between the City of Kenosha through the Board of Public Works

01:42:26.360 --> 01:42:30.920
and Kenosha Downtown Partners LLC for Black Sea located at the northeast corner of 55th

01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:32.280
Street and 8th Avenue.

01:42:32.280 --> 01:42:34.200
Public Works recommended to approve 5-0.

01:42:34.200 --> 01:42:36.000
Lady from the 8th.

01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:40.800
Yes, I move to concur with the Public Works Committee on item L-3.

01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:45.440
Move and second to concur on item L-3.

01:42:45.440 --> 01:42:47.160
Any discussion?

01:42:47.160 --> 01:42:56.040
Seeing none, roll call, please.

01:42:56.040 --> 01:42:57.800
Motion carries 15-0.

01:42:57.800 --> 01:43:01.880
L-4, stormwater management practices, maintenance agreement for stormwater management facilities

01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:06.920
between the City of Kenosha, Wisconsin and Horizon SBX, Kenosha, LLC.

01:43:06.920 --> 01:43:10.400
Stormwater utility recommended to approve 5-0.

01:43:11.400 --> 01:43:13.920
Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor.

01:43:13.920 --> 01:43:22.360
I move to concur with the Stormwater Utility Committee on items L-4 through L-7.

01:43:22.360 --> 01:43:26.240
L-5, stormwater management and access agreement for stormwater management facilities between

01:43:26.240 --> 01:43:30.240
the City of Kenosha, Wisconsin and Horizon SBX, Kenosha, LLC.

01:43:30.240 --> 01:43:32.520
Stormwater utility recommended to approve 5-0.

01:43:32.520 --> 01:43:37.600
L-6, stormwater management facilities, maintenance agreement between the City of Kenosha, Wisconsin

01:43:37.600 --> 01:43:39.520
and Tiroweds, LLC.

01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:42.040
Stormwater utility recommended to approve 5-0.

01:43:42.040 --> 01:43:47.280
L-7, permanent stormwater easement and agreement between Tiroweds, LLC and the City of Kenosha.

01:43:47.280 --> 01:43:49.920
Stormwater utility recommended to approve 5-0.

01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:55.560
Okay, motion on the floor is concurrence with Stormwater Utility Committee on L-4 through

01:43:55.560 --> 01:43:56.560
L-7.

01:43:56.560 --> 01:43:57.560
Any discussion?

01:43:57.560 --> 01:44:05.400
Seeing none, roll call, please.

01:44:05.400 --> 01:44:06.400
Motion carries 15-0.

01:44:06.400 --> 01:44:10.520
L-8, first amendment to development agreement between the City of Kenosha, the Kenosha Water

01:44:10.520 --> 01:44:15.880
Utility and Kenosha Downtown Black, LLC for property located between 7th and 8th Avenue

01:44:15.880 --> 01:44:18.720
and 55th and 56th Street.

01:44:18.720 --> 01:44:22.360
Public works, stormwater utility and the Board of Water Commissioners recommended to approve

01:44:22.360 --> 01:44:24.360
5-0.

01:44:24.360 --> 01:44:32.240
Gentlemen from the, or lady from the 8th, I'm sorry, I'm not looking at the wrong one.

01:44:32.240 --> 01:44:36.240
I was looking sorry, I was looking one ahead.

01:44:36.240 --> 01:44:40.920
Make a motion to concur with Public Works Committee on L-8.

01:44:40.920 --> 01:44:47.320
It's been moved in a second to concur with Public Works Committee.

01:44:47.320 --> 01:44:49.760
Any discussion?

01:44:49.760 --> 01:44:59.440
Seeing none, roll call, please.

01:44:59.440 --> 01:45:00.440
Motion carries 15-0.

01:45:00.440 --> 01:45:03.040
M recommendations from the Committee on Finance.

01:45:03.040 --> 01:45:08.600
M-1, disbursement record number 11, 6,561,256.7 cents.

01:45:08.600 --> 01:45:10.800
Finance recommended to approve 5-0.

01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:11.800
Gentlemen from the 13th.

01:45:11.800 --> 01:45:16.080
Move to concur with the Finance Committee recommendation to approve M-1.

01:45:16.080 --> 01:45:17.080
Second.

01:45:17.080 --> 01:45:20.320
Move to second to concur with Finance.

01:45:20.320 --> 01:45:22.280
Any discussion?

01:45:22.280 --> 01:45:31.120
Seeing none, roll call, please.

01:45:31.120 --> 01:45:32.760
Motion carries 15-0.

01:45:32.760 --> 01:45:34.840
M recommendations from the Committee on Public Works.

01:45:34.840 --> 01:45:41.080
M-1, acceptance of project 20-2040, Kenosha Innovation, Neighborhood Phase I, which has

01:45:41.080 --> 01:45:45.720
been satisfactorily completed by A.W. Oaks and Sons, Inc., the final one of the contract

01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:51.000
is $21,292,477.60 cents.

01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:53.440
Public works recommended to approve 5-0.

01:45:53.440 --> 01:45:54.440
Lady from the 8th.

01:45:54.440 --> 01:46:04.480
Yes, I move to concur with the Public Works Committee on items N-1 and N-2.

01:46:04.480 --> 01:46:09.680
And two, acceptance of project 24-1014 Concrete Street and Joint Repairs, which has been satisfactorily

01:46:09.680 --> 01:46:16.360
completed by Beardsley Concrete LLC, the final amount of the contract is $389,855.35.

01:46:16.360 --> 01:46:18.920
Public works recommended to approve 5-0.

01:46:18.920 --> 01:46:19.920
Okay.

01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:22.120
Motion on the floor is concurrence for the public works.

01:46:22.120 --> 01:46:23.680
Any discussion?

01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:35.920
Seeing none, roll call, please.

01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:36.920
Motion carries 15-0.

01:46:36.920 --> 01:46:37.920
Okay.

01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:41.040
Very briefly, Mayor's comments.

01:46:41.040 --> 01:46:51.280
First of all, to all of Kenosha, what an amazing week it has been from the parade to the fireworks

01:46:51.280 --> 01:46:58.800
display and all the events happening along the lakefront was a great fun family event.

01:46:58.800 --> 01:47:05.520
My hats off to all the city staff who put in a ton of hours in preparation, planning,

01:47:05.520 --> 01:47:12.600
cleaning things, trimming trees, adding garbage cans, adding police and fire.

01:47:12.600 --> 01:47:17.400
Everybody was on all hands on deck approach and I think you saw that and I think based

01:47:17.400 --> 01:47:22.120
on I know the weather was a little bit goofy on Saturday, but it cleared up just in time

01:47:22.120 --> 01:47:28.880
and had a great way to celebrate, in my opinion, the greatest country in the world on our

01:47:28.880 --> 01:47:34.080
250th birthday and it was great to see so many families out there enjoying it.

01:47:34.080 --> 01:47:38.420
So my special thanks to all the staff who really put on a lot of time, in particular

01:47:38.420 --> 01:47:43.800
like to call out Chris Coachman from my office who really coordinates a lot of the different

01:47:43.800 --> 01:47:48.160
things and keeps kind of everything kind of moving along on track whether it was the

01:47:48.160 --> 01:47:51.920
parade, whether it's fireworks and everything downtown.

01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:54.920
All of you for all the committee work because I know there's a lot of things that got to

01:47:54.920 --> 01:47:59.440
go through various approval stages to get to that point.

01:47:59.440 --> 01:48:04.240
You all had prompt and thorough hearings and I appreciate all of your efforts because again

01:48:04.240 --> 01:48:07.720
it's all of us working together to make this happen.

01:48:07.720 --> 01:48:13.480
So my congratulations and thanks to all of you and happy birthday America.

01:48:13.480 --> 01:48:15.200
Come in front of the third.

01:48:15.200 --> 01:48:16.200
Thank you, Your Honor.

01:48:16.200 --> 01:48:21.480
First of all, I'd like to ditto your comments that you have just made, say anything from

01:48:21.480 --> 01:48:24.080
going over them again.

01:48:24.080 --> 01:48:30.680
Every year around this time I go on and on about the illegal use of private fireworks

01:48:30.680 --> 01:48:36.080
and I wish people would cease and desist.

01:48:36.080 --> 01:48:42.120
Obviously some people have money to burn literally so consequently and a lot of people enjoy

01:48:42.120 --> 01:48:51.160
them but some of your neighbors have pets of course that don't do well with these unexpected

01:48:51.160 --> 01:48:58.720
explosions and then again there are veterans and we all want to honor our veterans and

01:48:58.720 --> 01:49:03.520
there are some veterans with post traumatic stress disorder so when there is an unexpected

01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:09.240
boom it triggers a reaction and it's not good.

01:49:09.240 --> 01:49:14.440
And finally you know after the fourth I mean there are people still blowing them off

01:49:14.440 --> 01:49:18.200
at one, two, three o'clock in the morning.

01:49:18.200 --> 01:49:22.160
Some people have to go to work the next day and if they hear these explosions you're interrupting

01:49:22.160 --> 01:49:28.760
their sleep and you're just be a gracious person and don't do that.

01:49:28.760 --> 01:49:35.440
I'm sorry these fireworks are illegal and you know I've heard well I got a license.

01:49:35.440 --> 01:49:36.440
No you didn't.

01:49:36.440 --> 01:49:38.440
You did not get a license.

01:49:38.440 --> 01:49:45.360
These places that sell them it's legal to buy them but it's not illegal to blow them

01:49:45.360 --> 01:49:46.360
off.

01:49:46.360 --> 01:49:53.000
And secondarily I've noticed a lot of things in the city as far as especially pedestrian

01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:54.000
safety.

01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:59.320
A lot of people have gotten into these little motorized electric scooters tearing on along

01:49:59.320 --> 01:50:03.800
the sidewalks and weaving in and out among pedestrians.

01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:07.080
And this is an accident waiting to happen.

01:50:07.080 --> 01:50:09.080
Also many bikes on the streets.

01:50:09.080 --> 01:50:12.440
Now if you have a motor cycle you need a license.

01:50:12.440 --> 01:50:18.600
Well you've got teeny tiny little motorcycles on the street and you know basically they

01:50:18.600 --> 01:50:25.400
don't pay attention to the traffic laws you get a whole group of people and I urge our

01:50:25.400 --> 01:50:31.480
police to be a bit more vigilant in enforcing the traffic laws on that.

01:50:31.480 --> 01:50:35.760
I know the police have got a lot on their agenda.

01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:41.760
They've got limited resources and a lot of calls that they have to answer to.

01:50:41.760 --> 01:50:48.920
But at the same time when you see something like this please respond and put a stop to

01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:49.920
it when you can.

01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:52.440
Thank you.

01:50:52.440 --> 01:50:53.440
Thank you sir.

01:50:53.440 --> 01:50:56.520
Jennifer 17th.

01:50:56.520 --> 01:50:57.520
Thank you your honor.

01:50:57.520 --> 01:51:03.920
I just want to take a minute to thank Chief Patton and the KPD for a ride along that my

01:51:03.920 --> 01:51:08.600
son and I were gracious enough to attend on June 24th.

01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:10.920
My son did a second shift with Officer Mark.

01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:15.600
I did a third shift ride along with Officer Jordan.

01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:17.960
I sat through two roll calls.

01:51:17.960 --> 01:51:19.880
We did the complete shift.

01:51:19.880 --> 01:51:25.840
Just gave you an appreciation for their daily jobs, encounters and engagements and what

01:51:25.840 --> 01:51:28.720
they do to keep our streets and our city safe.

01:51:28.720 --> 01:51:35.760
So thank the police force and thank Chief Patton, please thank you.

01:51:35.760 --> 01:51:36.760
Thank you sir.

01:51:36.760 --> 01:51:37.760
Jennifer from the 10th.

01:51:37.760 --> 01:51:38.760
Thank you Mr. Mayor.

01:51:38.760 --> 01:51:42.040
This might sound a little bit less sour grapes but I don't know anything about stormwater

01:51:42.040 --> 01:51:47.640
easements but yet I voted yes for it so maybe I should stop doing that since I haven't ever

01:51:47.640 --> 01:51:52.720
done stormwater easements or any of the other stormwater management or access agreements.

01:51:52.720 --> 01:51:54.080
I haven't done those either.

01:51:54.080 --> 01:52:00.000
So maybe on a go forward basis as put down by the aldermen of the 17th I won't vote

01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:01.600
on those either.

01:52:01.600 --> 01:52:06.600
I love that guy.

01:52:06.600 --> 01:52:14.440
What I really want to talk about though is my good friend, the past alder person and

01:52:14.440 --> 01:52:17.560
county board supervisor Mark Madori.

01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:25.120
In my Facebook memory something popped up where I talked about when Mark Madori was

01:52:25.120 --> 01:52:33.480
appointed to his reappointment to joint services.

01:52:33.480 --> 01:52:36.600
For those who don't know Mark Madori he was a great man.

01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:37.600
He was an aldermen.

01:52:37.600 --> 01:52:39.320
He was a county board supervisor.

01:52:39.320 --> 01:52:43.240
He was a tireless volunteer in our community.

01:52:43.240 --> 01:52:50.080
And his appointment to joint his reappointment to joint services was routine or should have

01:52:50.080 --> 01:52:53.120
been.

01:52:53.120 --> 01:52:54.400
He served in the city.

01:52:54.400 --> 01:52:59.800
He served in the county and he served in our community or he served on the county board.

01:52:59.800 --> 01:53:07.480
So the elect the the appointment of him was a no-brainer.

01:53:07.480 --> 01:53:16.240
One decided that they would bring up a Facebook post and show this as being supportive of

01:53:16.240 --> 01:53:17.240
Antifa.

01:53:17.240 --> 01:53:20.520
And what the frick does Antifa mean?

01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:21.520
It means anti-fascist.

01:53:21.520 --> 01:53:27.880
Well, wasn't our grandfathers the greatest generation weren't they anti-fascist?

01:53:27.880 --> 01:53:31.800
Didn't they fight the fascists in Germany and Italy?

01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:37.640
But I shouldn't go down that line, right?

01:53:37.640 --> 01:53:45.600
I want to read something to you that I wrote in support of as I know aren't we all anti-fascist

01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:50.480
was not the greatest generation anti-fascist isn't being against fascism one of the very

01:53:50.480 --> 01:53:55.720
embodiments of a democratic society but you need to realize in this bizarre world inverted

01:53:55.720 --> 01:54:02.400
mirror whelm up down is down down is down up to twisted reality that you can use words

01:54:02.400 --> 01:54:07.800
like Antifa and right to work in the best Aurelian no speak or double think tradition

01:54:07.800 --> 01:54:16.240
and it obscures the meanings on a 12 to 11 vote the appointment was sent back to committee

01:54:16.240 --> 01:54:22.280
to allow the appointee to clarify their position.

01:54:22.280 --> 01:54:29.520
I spoke called county board members and gave them a understanding of who Mark Midori

01:54:29.520 --> 01:54:43.120
was why their vote was misguided and I had commitments from people to appoint him to

01:54:43.120 --> 01:54:45.800
the joint services committee.

01:54:45.800 --> 01:54:53.840
But that Antifa thing was just a faint the real the left hook that was coming was to

01:54:53.840 --> 01:55:05.160
start showing some messages that market sent to his friends and now he's a misogynist

01:55:05.160 --> 01:55:14.080
he's anti he's a racist he is they started a character assassination against this man

01:55:14.080 --> 01:55:21.480
he withdrew his application his nomination and some people in this community look at

01:55:21.480 --> 01:55:31.280
that as a as a victory they don't understand the embarrassed being embarrassed they don't

01:55:31.280 --> 01:55:41.560
understand the hurt of having your being having your integrity questioned now why why the hell

01:55:41.560 --> 01:55:51.160
am I talking about all this now why because it pissed me off so I wrote about it because

01:55:51.160 --> 01:55:57.560
the people who orchestrated that character assassination are still in power today and

01:55:57.560 --> 01:56:02.280
they're benefiting from the people who helped put that together and I just want people to

01:56:02.280 --> 01:56:14.200
realize that these kinds of things happen in our community to good people I wrote for this

01:56:14.200 --> 01:56:18.320
thing called government to work we need people to give of their time their talent and their

01:56:18.320 --> 01:56:23.720
energy sometimes these gifts are bestowed upon a community with very little reward or

01:56:23.720 --> 01:56:32.800
remunerment remunerment thank you money sometimes the reward a person earns is the heartfelt

01:56:32.800 --> 01:56:37.520
belief that they are helping build a better community the things these good people should

01:56:37.520 --> 01:56:47.600
not earn is an assassination of character I have in my hand right here the original article

01:56:47.600 --> 01:56:57.400
from 1978 talking about the city may quit apart for impaired may pioneer park idea for handicapped

01:56:57.400 --> 01:57:05.920
Mark Midori found this article gave it to me and it sits here in my desk because he is the

01:57:05.920 --> 01:57:11.120
grandfather of the dream playground I know we call Tammy can for you the mother of the dream

01:57:11.520 --> 01:57:19.200
playground but Mark Midori was the grandfather when we look at the Shalom Center and what it

01:57:19.200 --> 01:57:23.920
was and what it became and the amount of work that Mark Midori helped put into it with many many

01:57:23.920 --> 01:57:34.000
other people I am more than willing to stand with the memory of Mark because he has done more for

01:57:34.000 --> 01:57:42.960
this community than any muck raker fake journalist blogger jerk has ever done thank you thank you

01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:52.080
sir gentlemen for 16th thank you mr. Mayor a lot of us been getting a lot of emails I've been getting

01:57:52.080 --> 01:57:57.760
a ton of phone calls about the data center I want to thank the people that showed up tonight to

01:57:57.760 --> 01:58:06.160
talk about the data center 17 people 16 talked about the data center everybody has a right there

01:58:06.160 --> 01:58:18.080
own opinion had a phone call yesterday I get many many voicemails and they call them back they're

01:58:18.080 --> 01:58:27.680
almost always about the data center but we have to be respectful today I had a hang up on somebody

01:58:28.160 --> 01:58:38.240
because I was being disrespected vulgar language and I don't I don't need to hear that we don't

01:58:38.240 --> 01:58:48.080
we don't always have to agree we could disagree but we can remain peaceful but I certainly is not

01:58:48.160 --> 01:58:56.400
going to be a disrespected or called many names on the telephone you know I didn't sign up for that

01:58:57.920 --> 01:59:05.280
so if we keep it keep it respectful we don't have to agree we're not going to agree but

01:59:06.240 --> 01:59:12.160
everybody has a right to their opinion and everybody on the council here listens and takes notes

01:59:13.120 --> 01:59:21.280
what everybody has to say so it's America that's that's the citizens rights and

01:59:23.040 --> 01:59:29.040
but it's all about respect just because we don't have the same opinion on things doesn't mean

01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:37.360
I'm right or that the person's wrong it's just we we have different opinions so thank you bye

01:59:38.080 --> 01:59:44.240
thank you sir seeing no other lights motion to adjourn on your laptop of being ordered

01:59:46.800 --> 01:59:49.120
moved and seconded to adjourn all the favor say aye

