>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO "IN
WISCONSIN."
I'M PATTY LOW.
THIS WEEK DISCOVER HOW THESE
LITTLE GUYS ARE TAKING
WISCONSIN'S CHEESE INDUSTRY TO
THE TOP.
GET OUT YOUR CHECKBOOK AND FIND
OUT HOW YOU'RE ON THE HOOK FOR
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S
MULTI-TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT AND
MEET THIS CITY'S FOREST OFFICER.
WE'LL SHARE SOME EXCITING NEWS
WITH YOU LATER ON "IN
WISCONSIN."
>> MAJOR FUNDING FOR "IN
WISCONSIN" IS PROVIDED BY THE
PEOPLE OF ALLIANT ENERGY, WHO
BRING SAFE, RELIABLE AND
ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY ENERGY
TO KEEP HOMES, NEIGHBORHOODS
AND LIFE IN WISCONSIN RUNNING
SMOOTHLY.
ALLIANT ENERGY, OFFERING
ENERGY-SAVING IDEAS ON THE WEB
AND BY THE ANIMAL DENTAL CENTER
OF MILWAUKEE AND OSHKOSH.
A VETERINARY SPECIALIST WORKING
WITH PET OWNERS AND FAMILY
VETERINARIANS THROUGHOUT
WISCONSIN PROVIDING CARE FOR
ORAL DISEASE AND DENTAL
PROBLEMS OF SMALL COMPANION
ANIMALS.
>> LAST WEEK THE CONGRESSIONAL
BUDGET OFFICE ESTIMATED THE
FEDERAL DEFICIT FOR FISCAL YEAR
2009 WILL HIT $750 BILLION.
OTHER SOURCES SAY THE ACTUAL
NUMBER WILL HIT AN EVEN
TRILLION.
THE DEFICIT IS THE MEASURE OF
HOW FAR OUR NATION'S POCKETBOOK
GOES INTO THE HOLE IN A GIVEN
FISCAL YEAR.
IT'S RELATED TO BUT DIFFERENT
THAN THE NATIONAL DEBT, WHICH
IS THE ACCUMULATION OF DEFICITS
OVER TIME.
DURING LAST WEEK'S PRESIDENTIAL
DEBATE THE CANDIDATES WERE NOT
LONG ON DETAILS ABOUT HOW THEY
WOULD REDUCE THE DEFICIT BUT
RIGHT HERE IN WISCONSIN
REPORTER ART HACKETT FOUND A
CREATIVE PROGRAM AT CARROLL
UNIVERSITY THAT ALLOWS COLLEGE
STUDENTS TO TRY THEIR HAND AT
REDUCING THE FEDERAL DEFICIT.
>> THE DAY AFTER THE FINAL
PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, THESE
STUDENTS IN PROFESSOR LILY
GOREN'S POLITICAL SCIENCE CLASS
TOOK ON A TASK.
IN AN EXERCISE THAT IS PART OF
THE CURRICULUM EVEN IN
NON-ELECTION YEARS THE STUDENTS
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY AND
COME UP WITH A BALANCED FEDERAL
BUDGET.
>> FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO
IS DECIDE AS A GROUP WHAT YOUR
PRIORITIES ARE GOING TO BE.
>> THE EXERCISE IS PREPARED BY
THE CONCORD COALITION, A
NONPARTISAN GROUP WITH THE GOAL
OF MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF THE
SIZE OF THE FEDERAL BUDGET
DEFICIT.
>> DO YOU WANT TO CUT IT, DO
YOU WANT TO KEEP IT WHERE IT
IS, OR DO YOU WANT TO
POTENTIALLY INCREASE IT BY
SPENDING ON THINGS YOU THINK WE
NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON?
>> I DO TRY TO IMPRESS UPON THE
STUDENTS WHO ARE GENERALLY
SPEAKING 18 TO 24 YEARS OLD
THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE MORE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEFICIT
THAN PROBABLY I AM.
>> THE STUDENTS ARE GIVEN A
LIST OF OPTIONS FOR TAX
INCREASES AND SPENDING CUTS,
ALONG WITH INFORMATION ON THE
VARIOUS PROGRAMS.
IN THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES THE
CANDIDATES GET PUT THROUGH A
SURPRISINGLY SIMILAR EXERCISE
WITH ONE DIFFERENCE,
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES CAN TRY
AND BLOW OFF THE QUESTION.
>> GIVE US SOME SPECIFICS ON
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO CUT BACK,
SENATOR OBAMA.
>> BARACK OBAMA AND JOHN MCCAIN
DISAGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS,
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY
APPEARED TO HAVE IN COMMON AT
THE DEBATE WAS A RELUCTANCE TO
OFFER SPECIFIC CUTS TO REDUCE
THE DEFICIT.
>> OKAY.
ENERGY -- SECOND OF ALL ENERGY
INDEPENDENCE.
>> EVENTUALLY MCCAIN OFFERED UP
CUTS TOTALING $18 BILLION.
DURING THE DEBATE OBAMA
MENTIONED $15 BILLION IN
SAVINGS.
THE DEFICIT IS WAY BIGGER THAN
8 OR 15 BILLION DOLLARS.
>> HOW BAD IS IT?
>> TERRIBLE.
>> BILL DUDDLESTON TEACHES
ECONOMICS AT MADISON'S EDGEWOOD
COLLEGE.
>> NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET IS AT
LEAST $500 BILLION, AS MUCH AS
$750 BILLION AND ADDING THE
BAILOUT YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO
A TRILLION DOLLARS IN 2009.
>> IT MEANS LURING CASH FROM
OVERSEAS INVESTORS.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SAVINGS
DOMESTICALLY.
WE HAVE TO LURE PEOPLE IN WITH
HIGHER INTEREST RATES.
>> IT AFFECTS U.S. CITIZENS IN
MANY WAYS.
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WILL BE
TRYING TO BORROW THE SAME MONEY
YOU MAY BE SEEKING FOR A CAR
LOAN OR MORTGAGE.
>> THAT'S THE OLD THEORY O
CROWDING OUT.
CROWDING OUT IS NOT TALKED
ABOUT AS MUCH BECAUSE WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO PULL MONEY IN FROM
ABROAD AND THAT'S BEEN SAVING
US OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN LIVING ON THE
KINDNESS OF STRANGERS.
BUT THAT DEBT MAY COME AT A
HIGHER PRICE GIVEN THE CRISIS
AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT
EVERYBODY IS WANTING TO BORROW
MONEY.
>> THAT DRIVES UP THE COST OF
BORROWING.
GOREN'S STUDENTS UNDERSTAND
IT'S A PROBLEM.
BUT PERHAPS AREN'T AS CONCERNED
ABOUT IT AS PROFESSORS.
>> IT BOTHERS ME BUT IT DOESN'T
DIRECTLY AFFECT ME SO IT
DOESN'T BOTHER ME AS MUCH AS IF
I WAS PAYING TAXES.
>> WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT
BEFORE WE WERE RUNNING A
DEFICIT WHEN WE WERE IN AN
ECONOMIC BOOM TIME THAT WE
SHOULD HAVE BEEN PLANNING FOR
THIS AND WE SHOULD HAVE KEPT
WITH THE SURPLUS WE HAD PRIOR
TO 2001.
>> GOREN SAYS RUNNING A DEFICIT
CREATES PROBLEMS WITH
EVERYTHING THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO DO.
>> IT LIMITS OUR ABILITY TO
POTENTIALLY PROPEL OUR
MILITARY, OR USE THE MILITARY.
IT LIMITS THE GOVERNMENT'S
ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY FUND
HEALTH ISSUES, HEALTHCARE,
WHICH IS ONE OF THE GROWING
COSTS, CERTAINLY, THAT
ESSENTIALLY HAVING A DEFICIT
STRAPS THE GOVERNMENT OF SOME
OF ITS AGILITY.
>> BARACK OBAMA'S PLAN FOR
DEALING WITH THE DEFICIT
INCLUDES A PAY AS YOU GO RULE
SO NEW SPENDING HAS TO BE
BALANCED BY A CUT OF AN
EXISTING PROGRAM OR A TAX
INCREASE.
INCREASED BUDGETING
TRANSPARENCY TO REIGN IN PORK
BARREL SPENDING.
CHANGES IN THE TAX CODE TO
LIMIT USE OF OVERSEAS TAX
HAVENS AND ENDING THE 2001 TAX
CUTS ON PEOPLE EARNING OVER
250,000 A YEAR.
BUT OBAMA ALSO CALLS FOR
CONSIDERABLE NEW SPENDING ON
EVERYTHING FROM THE NATION'S
HIGHWAYS AND BRIDGES, TO
HEALTHCARE, TO THE ELECTRICAL
GRID.
>> BUT I WILL ADD IF WE HAVE A
SERIOUS RECESSION IN 2009, IT
WOULD BE THE WORST THING TO CUT
INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING.
THE WORST THING TO CUT
HEALTHCARE SPENDING.
THAT WOULD EXACERBATE THE
RECESSIONARY FORCES.
>> JOHN MCCAIN'S PLAN CALLS FOR
BALANCING THE BUDGET, LOWERING
CORPORATE TAXES TO PROMOTE
GROWTH AND HE WANTS A ONE-YEAR
SPENDING FREEZE ON PROGRAMS
EXCEPT FOR DEFENSE ACTIVITY,
VETERANS AFFAIRS AND
ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS SUCH AS
MEDICARE.
>> THAT'S IGNORING THE BULK OF
THE DIRECT FEDERAL SPENDING.
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT
TO FREEZE ENTITLEMENTS LIKE
SOCIAL SECURITIES AND THOSE
KINDS OF THINGS.
DIFFICULT TO DO AND HE'S
BASICALLY SAY WELL, THE BIGGEST
PROJECT, DEFENSE, WE'RE NOT
GOING TO TOUCH.
I THINK IT'S UNREALISTIC.
>> AS THE EXERCISE AT CARROLL
UNIVERSITY DREW TO A CLOSE,
STUDENTS CAME TO THE FRONT OF
THE CLASS TO SHOW WHAT THE
CUMULATIVE DEFICITS OVER THE
NEXT TEN YEARS WOULD BE AFTER
THEIR PROPOSED CHANGES IN
TAXING AND SPENDING.
SO BOB SCHIEFFER, LET'S TRY
THAT QUESTION AGAIN.
>> GIVE US SOME SPECIFICS ON
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO CUT BACK.
>> CANCEL THE FUTURE COMBAT
SYSTEM PROGRAM BECAUSE WE
BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE HAVE NOW
IS WORKING.
>> WE GOT RID OF THE MARITIME
PROPOSITION ISSUE SAVED US $14
BILLION.
>> IN SPITE OF MAKING CUTS.
SEVERAL OF THE WORK GROUPS
WOUND UP WITH A PROJECTED
DEFICIT OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS.
TONY NELSON'S GROUP ENDED UP
WITH A SURPLUS BY RAISING TAXES.
BILL DUDDLESTON SAYS PAST
EFFORTS SAY IT TAKES A SLOW BUT
PERSISTENT COMBINATION OF
SPENDING CUTS AND TAX INCREASES
TO ELIMINATE THE DEFICIT.
>> THE SOLUTION IN THE 1990s
WAS TO SLOW DOWN THE RATE OF
SPENDING BELOW INFLATION AND
RAISE TAXES WHERE IT DOESN'T
HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT OF
INCENTIVES.
>> AS HE SAID, IT WILL TAKE
TIME.
PETERSON HOPES THE NEXT
PRESIDENT WILL START WORK ON
THE PROBLEM AS SOON AS HE TAKES
OFFICE.
>> ONCE WE GET OUT OF THE
ECONOMIC CRISIS WE'RE IN NOW WE
NEED TO DO WHAT TONY SAID AND
GET A PLAN GOING TO REDUCE THE
DEFICIT, PAY BACK SOME OF THAT
DEBT SINCE WE'RE BORROWING SO
MUCH MONEY FROM DIFFERENT
COUNTRIES LIKE JAPAN AND CHINA.
WE NEED TO STOP DOING THAT AND
WORRY ABOUT OUR OWN COUNTRY.
>> YOU CAN WATCH OUR ENTIRE
SERIES OF REPORTS ON THE TOP
ISSUES IN THIS YEAR'S
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN BY GOING
TO OUR ELECTION YEAR ONLINE
RESOURCE, WISCONSINVOTE.ORG.
ONCE THERE YOU'LL ALSO FIND
MORE ON ALL OF THE PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATES THAT WILL APPEAR ON
WISCONSIN'S GENERAL ELECTION
BALLOT.
YOU CAN FIND IT ALL AT
WISCONSINVOTE.ORG.
OUR NEXT REPORT FEATURES
WISCONSIN'S DAIRY INDUSTRY.
IT MAY NO LONGER BE THE
NATION'S LARGEST BUT IT AS
ASPIRES TO BE THE BEST.
MANY CHEESES ARE MADE FROM
GOAT'S MILK SO THE STATE'S
AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT HAVE
GOTTEN BEHIND PEOPLE WHO WANT
TO BECOME GOAT FARMER.
ANDY SOTH TAGGED ALONG AT ONE
OF THE STATE'S LARGEST GOAT
FARMS FOR A FIELD DAY.
>> I FEEL REALLY BIG.
>> GENE ZIMMERMAN IS BIG IN THE
SMALL BUT GROWING WORLD OF
WISCONSIN GOAT FARMING.
>> YOU CAN SEE THE GRAIN CART.
>> IT'S WHY DOZENS OF PEOPLE
INTERESTED IN GOATS CAME OUT ON
A GRAY, WINDY DAY FOR A STATE
AG DEPARTMENT SPONSORED DAIRY
GOAT FIELD DAY.
>> I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT GOATS.
>> TREMENDOUS TURNOUT FOR THAT
EVENT LAST WEEK.
>> 78?
A COUPLE OF THEM WERE MY MOM
AND DAD AND MY BROTHER JUST
CAME FOR THE MEAL.
>> A MEAL THAT INCLUDED PLENTY
OF CHEESE MADE FROM GOATS' MILK
AND IT'S A GROWING TASTE FOR
GOAT CHEESE THAT'S SPEEDING THE
GROWING INTEREST IN GOAT
FARMING.
THE NUMBER OF DAIRY GOAT FARMS
IS INCREASING RAPIDLY ACROSS
WISCONSIN.
16 COUNTIES HAVE BETWEEN ONE
AND THREE LICENSED FARMS.
10 COUNTIES ARE HOME TO BETWEEN
4 AND 10 GOAT FARMS AND SOME
HAVE BETWEEN 11 AND 25 LICENSED
DAIRY GOAT FARMS.
>> THERE WAS A LOT OF ANGST A
FEW YEARS AGO ABOUT WHAT WAS
HAPPENING WITH OUR DAIRY
INDUSTRY.
CALIFORNIA IS BEATING US.
PEOPLE WITHIN THE INDUSTRY TOOK
A LOOK AT IT AND SAID WE NEED
TO DO SOME THINGS IF WE'RE
GOING TO STOP LOSING FARMS, IF
WE'RE GOING TO STOP CLOSING
CHEESE FACTORIES.
>> THAT LED TO NEW THINKING.
>> I THINK THEY FINALLY
REALIZED, HEY, WISCONSIN IS THE
NUMBER ONE GOAT DAIRY STATE AND
I BELIEVE THE NUMBER ONE
SPECIALTY CHEESE STATE.
I THINK THEY'VE SAID WE CAN'T
BE THE BIGGEST WITH THE COWS SO
WE'LL BE THE BEST.
>> YOU NEED ONLY VISIT YOUR
GROCER'S DAIRY CASE TO SEE THE
BOOMING CONSUMER INTEREST IN
SPECIALTY CHEESE, MUCH OF IT
MADE FROM GOAT'S MILK.
MUCH OF IT MADE IN WISCONSIN.
>> THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE
THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS IS THE
TREMENDOUS HISTORY AND HERITAGE
OF CHEESE MAKING.
>> THAT CHEESE MAKING HERITAGE
DATES BACK TO THE EARLY
EUROPEAN SETTLERS WHO TURNED
THEIR EXTRA MILK INTO CHEESE IN
THEIR FARM KITCHENS.
DIANA MURPHY STARTED MAKING
CHEESE IN THE SAME WAY ONCE HER
FAMILY STARTED RAISING GOATS.
>> I HAD THIS MILK AND I
THOUGHT WHAT DO I DO WITH IT?
I STARTED MAKING CHEESE IN MY
HOUSE AND THEN I HAD MORE
CHEESE THAN OUR FAMILY COULD
CONSUME SO I WOULD BRING THE
CHEESE TO VERMONT VALLEY TO
SHARE WITH THE OTHER WORKERS
FOR OUR LUNCHES.
>> VERMONT VALLEY IS A
COMMUNITY-SUPPORTED FARM NEAR
BLACK EARTH.
BEFORE LONG THEY ASKED HER TO
ADD HER GOAT CHEESE TO BOXES OF
FRESH PRODUCE THEY PROVIDE
MEMBERS EACH WEEK DURING THE
GROWING SEASON.
TO DO THAT SHE WOULD HAVE TO BE
LICENSED.
>> DIANA MURPHY IS ONE OF THOSE
SPECIAL INSTANCES WHERE SHE HAD
A CAREER OFF-FARM AND DECIDED
THAT SHE WAS GOING TO MILK
GOATS AND THAT SHE WAS GOING TO
BE A CHEESEMAKER, WHICH IS NOT
EASY TO DO.
IT TAKES ABOUT A YEAR OR SO TO
GET THROUGH ALL THE COURSES AND
DO THE APPRENTICESHIP.
>> I TOOK MY CHEESEMAKERS TEST
AND PASSED IT.
THEN I WAS READY TO -- I COULD
LEGALLY MAKE CHEESE AND SELL IT.
>> MURPHY PROVIDES HER FRESH
GOAT CHEESE TO VERMONT VALLEY'S
MEMBERS AND ALSO SELLS IT AT A
MADISON FARMERS MARKET.
AND SHE ENTERED IT IN THE
AMERICAN CHEESE SOCIETY
COMPETITION.
>> WHICH IS THE CREME DE LA
CREME OF SPECIALTY CHEESES IN
THE UNITED STATES AND SHE TOOK
FIRST PLACE FOR HER GOAT FETA
CHEESE SO THAT'S A REAL SUCCESS
STORY.
>> A SUCCESS THAT MANY WOULD BE
GOAT FARMERS WOULD LIKE TO
EMULATE.
ESPECIALLY, IT SEEMS, OTHER
WOMEN.
>> I GET LOTS OF CALLS FROM
WOMEN WHO ARE INTERESTED AND
OFTEN WHEN WE HAVE FIELD DAYS,
A LOT OF WOMEN COME.
>> THE REASON I WENT INTO GOATS
VERSUS COWS I THINK IT'S AN
EASIER ANIMAL TO HANDLE.
THEY'RE SMALLER, OF COURSE,
THEY'RE DIFFERENT THAN COWS IN
MANY WAYS.
BUT JUST THE HANDLING OF THEM
IS MORE CONDUCIVE, I THINK,
MAYBE TO A WOMAN THAN A COW
WOULD BE.
>> GENE ZIMMERMAN RAISED COWS
BUT WHEN HE GOT MARRIED HIS
WIFE CAME WITH GOATS AND BEFORE
LONG THEY MADE THE SWITCH.
>> YOU HAVE TO LOVE THEM.
IT IS LIKE, YOU HAVE TO LOVE
THEM, TOO.
THESE GUYS ARE MORE LOVEABLE.
>> WHILE THEY SHARE A LOVE OF
GOATS ZIMMERMAN AND MURPHY ARE
VERY DIFFERENT GOAT FARMERS
REPRESENTING THE DIVERSITY IN
THIS GROWING INDUSTRY.
ZIMMERMAN HAS A HERD OF
HUNDREDS WHICH REQUIRES A LOT
OF MANAGEMENT.
>> YOU AREN'T A DAIRY PERSON
AND DON'T HAVE HUSBANDRY
SKILLS, THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO
WORK OUT REAL WELL.
>> THAT MEANS ARTIFICIAL
LIGHTING AND OTHER TECHNIQUES
TO KEEP THE GOATS BREEDING,
BIRTHING AND PRODUCING MILK
YEAR ROUND.
MURPHY PRODUCES SEASONALLY LIKE
THE FARM SHE DISTRIBUTES HER
CHEESE THROUGH.
ZIMMERMAN'S MILK IS SHIPPED TO
A LARGE CHEESE FACTORY.
THE MILK FROM THE MURPHY GOATS
GETS MADE ON-SITE TO HER
AWARD-WINNING CHEESE.
>> THERE IS A LOT OF DIVERSITY
WITHIN THE DAIRY GOAT INDUSTRY
JUST AS THERE IS WITHIN THE
DAIRY COW INDUSTRY.
>> COWS, GOATS AND EVEN SHEEP
MAKE FOR A DIVERSE STATE DAIRY
INDUSTRY.
A DIVERSITY MAY HELP MAKE THE
INDUSTRY STRONGER FOR WISCONSIN
AS IT STRIVES TO EVOLVE FROM
BEING THE BIGGEST TO BEING THE
BEST.
>> AGRICULTURE IS OUR GREATEST
ECONOMIC FORCE WITHIN THIS
STATE.
I THINK CHEESEMAKERS WORK
TOGETHER VERY COMPLEMENTARY.
CHEESEMAKERS HELPING
CHEESEMAKERS.
WE HAVE THAT RESOURCE.
>> IT'S EXCITING.
>> WISCONSIN'S REPUTATION FOR
GOAT MILK PROCESSING AND CHEESE
MAKING EXTENDS WELL BEYOND OUR
BORDERS.
GOAT FARMERS FROM AS FAR AWAY
AS MISSOURI SHIP THEIR MILK TO
THE DAIRY STATE TO BE PROCESSED.
NEXT WEEKEND GOAT FARMERS,
DAIRY INDUSTRY EXPERTS AND
THOSE INTERESTED IN LEARNING
MORE ABOUT DAIRY GOATS WILL
MEET IN MERRIMAC FOR A TWO-DAY
CONFERENCE.
WHEN WE THINK OF WISCONSIN'S
FORESTS, IT'S USUALLY THE
LARGE, NATIONAL AND STATE
WOODED AREAS UP NORTH THAT COME
TO MIND.
WELL, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IF WE
TOLD YOU THAT OUR STATE'S
LARGEST CITY ALSO HAS A
NATIONALLY-RENOWNED FORESTRY
PROGRAM?
THAT'S RIGHT, MILWAUKEE.
JO GARRETT FOUND THE PROGRAM IS
ENFORCED BY THE TREE COP.
>> I MONITOR THE CITY TREES AND
PROTECT THE TREES IN THE CITY
OF MILWAUKEE FROM CONSTRUCTION
DAMAGE OR OTHER DAMAGE THAT MAY
OCCUR TO THEM.
THE WHOLE CITY OF MILWAUKEE,
ALL OF IT.
>> IF THERE IS A STREET OR
SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION PROJECT
IN MILWAUKEE JIM KRINGER IS
THERE.
HIS BEAT IS TREES.
>> GOOD MORNING, TONY.
IT'S GOING ALL RIGHT.
WILL YOU BE ABLE TO CLEAR IT?
>> I'LL HAVE TO MOVE THIS.
>> OKAY.
>> THEY CALL HIM THE TREE COP.
KRINGER IS A MAN IN MOTION.
MEASURING.
>> EVERYTHING ON THIS SIDE
WOULD HAVE HAD TO COME OUT.
>> MOVING.
>> WE'LL GET HER DONE.
WE HAVE ALL THE WALKING HERE
THAT'S COMING OUT.
13th AND MITCHELL AND THE CURB
AND GUTTER IS COMING OUT AS
WELL.
>> I DRIVE 120 MILES A DAY AND
WALK 12 TO 17 MILES A DAY
COVERING A BEAT.
>> KRINGER HAS BEEN WALKING
THIS BEAT FOR 25 YEARS.
THIS IS THE RESULT.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT MILWAUKEE'S
URBAN FOREST.
FOR MANY, THESE TREES ARE AN
ESSENTIAL PART OF THE CITY'S
INFRASTRUCTURE.
BOB MCFADDEN IS A FORMER
FORESTRY SERVICES MANAGER FOR
MILWAUKEE.
>> IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THIS HERE
AND IT WAS ALL CONCRETE ASPHALT
IT WOULD BE BRUTAL.
>> TREES CAN MAKE A CITY.
>> IT'S ALL YOU NEED.
>> PRESTON KOLE IS THE
ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES
SUPERINTENDENT FOR THE CITY OF
MILWAUKEE.
>> I'M CONVINCED THAT THE
SOCIAL DYNAMICS BEHIND HAVING A
WELL-CANOPIED SOCIETY, A
WELL-CANOPIED CITY GOES A LONG
WAY TO REDUCING VIOLENCE.
GOES A LONG WAY TO INCREASING
PROPERTY VALUES AND A LONG WAY
TO DEFINING US AS A COMMUNITY.
>> THIS CANOPY ALSO GOES A LONG
WAY IN CUTTING CITY COSTS.
>> WE GET 284,000 TREES IN THE
CITY OF MILWAUKEE.
THOSE TREES SAVE THE HOMEOWNERS
AND TAXPAYERS $21 MILLION A
YEAR.
>> ACCORDING TO CITY OFFICIALS
THE TREES OF MILWAUKEE'S URBAN
FOREST PROVIDE 1.5 MILLION
DOLLARS A YEAR IN COOLING COSTS.
4.5 MILLION IN POLLUTION
ABATEMENT AND 15.5 MILLION IN
GROUNDWATER TREATMENT.
>> SAVED BY THE HOMEOWNERS.
MORE TREES WE PLANT, THE MORE
MONEY THAT'S BEING SAVED.
>> AND THE MORE TREES THEY
SAVE, THE MORE MONEY THEY SAVE.
BIGGER TREES, BIGGER CANOPY.
KRINGER'S TITLE IS URBAN
FORESTRY INSPECTOR.
A JOB HE HELPED CREATE FROM
SCRATCH.
A JOB THAT BEGAN ON THIS STREET.
>> BACK IN 1978, AUGUST OF THAT
YEAR, WE HAD A WINDSTORM COME
THROUGH HERE AS A SIDEWALK
REPLACEMENT PROJECT HAD JUST
FIND UP.
IN ONE EVENING IN AUGUST WE HAD
90 TREES FALL OVER IN THIS
COMMUNITY.
THEY WERE LYING ON TOP OF
HOUSES, LYING ON TOP OF CARS.
>> IT WAS AN EXPENSIVE MESS AND
PEOPLE WERE MAD.
KRINGER WAS HIRED AND ARMED
WITH THE SKILLS FROM A FORESTRY
JOB AND THE B.A. IN ENGLISH OFF
HE WENT IN SEARCH OF AN ANSWER,
IN SEARCH OF A SOLUTION.
>> THE ALDERMEN WANTED THE KNOW
WHY THESE TREES WERE FALLING
OVER IN THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE.
>> SO BEGAN A 25-YEAR ODYSSEY
THAT HAS RESULTED IN A
NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED TREE
INSPECTION PROGRAM THAT HAS
PRODUCED SPECTACULAR RESULTS.
BEFORE KRINGER CAME, TREE
LOSSES IN MILWAUKEE NUMBERED IN
THE HUNDREDS.
>> CITY OF MILWAUKEE AVERAGED A
LOSS OF BETWEEN 400 TO 600
TREES ANNUALLY THAT FELL OVER
IN CONSTRUCTION SITES.
FROM 1981 TO NOW, 2005 WE'VE
HAD LESS THAN 50 FALL OVER IN
CONSTRUCTION SITES.
>> THE CAMPAIGN TO SAVE THIS
CANOPY BEGINS AT GROUND LEVEL
OR BELOW WHERE THE ROOTS MEET
THE STREET.
>> IF YOU CUT THROUGH TOMORROW
STABILIZERS THE TREE CAN'T
SUPPORT ITSELF DURING WIND
STORMS AND THE TREE WILL FALL
OVER.
TAKE A LOOK IN HERE.
THIS IS WHERE I HAVE MY ROOT.
ANY TIME YOU CUT INTO THIS,
THIS IS GOING TO ROT DIRECTLY
INTO THE TREE AND EVERYTHING ON
THIS SECTION OF THE TREE WOULD
EVENTUALLY ROT OUT MEANING ALL
OF THESE ROOTS WOULD ROT OUT.
YOU WOULD HAVE NO SUPPORT ON
THIS SIDE OF THE TREE
WHATSOEVER.
>> MANY COMMUNITIES SIMPLY
DITCH THE TREES.
THEY VALUE THE STRAIGHT LINE.
MILWAUKEE VALUES ITS TREES.
CONSIDER THIS OLD BEAUTY.
>> THIS IS AN AMERICAN ELM.
ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE CITY
OF MILWAUKEE THAT'S STILL LEFT.
>> AN OLD BEAUTY WITH BULGING
ROOTS THAT RAISED UP THE
SIDEWALK AND GOT IN THE WAY.
>> MOST COMMUNITIES CUT IT DOWN.
IT'S CHEAPER NOT TO HAVE IT
IMPACT ON THE CONSTRUCTION.
>> MILWAUKEE DIDN'T CUT IT DOWN.
THEY WENT AROUND.
TO SAVE A TREE KRINGER WILL
INSIST THAT THEY NARROW A WALK.
>> WE'VE ALREADY REDUCED THE
WALK BY A FOOT.
>> RAISE A WALK.
>> MY NEW WALK IS ACTUALLY
GOING TO BE THIS HIGH.
WHICH IS GOING TO GO OVER THE
ENTIRE ROOT SYSTEM ITSELF.
>> HE'LL INSIST ON CERTAIN
EQUIPMENT, WHATEVER IT TAKES.
>> IT'S ALL FOR THE TREES.
ALL FOR THE TREES.
>> EVERY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT
IN THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE
INCLUDES SPECS FOR THE TREES.
IT'S CALLED A SPECIAL
PROVISIONS REPORT AND IT'S
DISTRICT.
>> IT LEGALLY SETS DOWN WHAT
THE BINDING CONTRACT IS, WHAT
THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO FOR EACH
CONSTRUCTION JOB IN THE CITY OF
MILWAUKEE AND HOLDS THEM LIABLE
FOR DAMAGES FOR TREES.
>> DAMAGES.
THAT'S RIGHT, CONTRACTORS ARE
LIABLE FOR DAMAGES TO THE TREES.
>> WHAT I'VE GOT IS ROOTC
DOLLAR SIGN.
IF THEY HIT IT, IT WILL COST
THEM MONEY.
>> MILWAUKEE DOESN'T MINCE
AROUND.
>> IT'S $50 FOR EVERY TWO
INCHES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT $1,500.
WE HAD A JOB WE HAD OVER ON
HADLEY.
I HAD 84 TREES ON THAT JOB.
EVERY ONE OF THOSE TREES GOT
DAMAGED.
IT COST THE CONTRACTOR $42,000.
THE BEST WAY TO AFFECT THE
CONTRACTOR WAS TAKE IT OUT OF
HIS BACK POCKET.
HE TOOK THE GREEN LEAVES DOWN.
I TOOK THE GREEN OUT OF HIS
WALLET AND THAT CHANGED HIS
OPINION OF WHAT WE HAD TO DO ON
THE JOB.
>> THE TREE COP WASN'T ALWAYS
WELL LIKED BUT OVER TIME THE
CREWS AND THE CONTRACTORS HAVE
RESPONDED AND HERE IS THE
RESULT.
MILWAUKEE'S TREES LIVE AN
AVERAGE OF 62 YEARS.
THAT'S TWICE THE NATIONAL
AVERAGE.
>> MILWAUKEE LIKES TREES.
WE LIKE TO SAVE THE TREES HERE.
>> IT'S DIFFERENT.
THEY'LL GO TO RACINE AND
KENOSHA THEY DON'T HAVE THE
SAME GUIDELINES WE HAVE AND
THEY'LL SAY JIM, THEY NEED YOU
HERE, IN MADISON, WE'RE DOING
JOBS IN GREEN BAY WHERE THEY
DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR TREES.
>> THEY'LL TAKE EVERYTHING DOWN.
YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
HAS NOTHING.
>> THIS IS THE TREE COP'S
FAVORITE CASE.
LAYTON AVENUE.
>> IF THE NEXT ROAD WOULD HAVE
EN HERE WOULD HAVE GONE
THROUGH THE CENTER OF EVERY
TREE ON THIS PROJECT.
ALL 280 TREES WOULD HAVE HAD TO
COME OUT.
>> IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
>> THE CATHEDRAL WILL BE HERE
FOR A LONG TIME YET TO COME.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
IT REALLY S. IT ADDS TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
EVERY TIME YOU DRIVE DOWN THAT
BLOCK OR THAT AREA YOU SAY LOOK
WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE.
LOOK WHAT THE CITY HAS
ACCOMPLISHED.
YOU COULD HAVE GONE IN THERE
AND CUT EVERYTHING DOWN.
EVERY SINGLE TREE IN THAT
PROJECT COULD HAVE BEEN CUT
DOWN.
HOW LONG DOES MAN LIVE?
MAYBE 70, 80 YEARS?
WHEN WE'RE GONE, THEY'RE STILL
GOING TO BE HERE.
THEY'LL STILL BE GROWING AND
STRONG.
>> IN ADDITION TO HIS WORK AS
MILWAUKEE'S TREE COP, JIM
KRINGER ALSO TEACHES UW-MADISON
SEMINARS IN SIDEWALK MANAGEMENT.
AND THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR THIS
WEEK.
JOIN US NEXT TIME WHEN WE'LL
TAKE YOU TO THIS REGULARLY
LOGGED FOREST AND EXPLAIN WHY
IT CONTAINS MORE TREES NOW THAN
IT DID 100 YEARS AGO.
WE'LL SHOW YOU HOW LAID OFF
PAPER MILL WORKERS ARE FINDING
NEW LIFE THROUGH RENEWABLE
INDUSTRIES.
AND WE'LL INTRODUCE YOU TO A
PICKY PLATTEVILLE PAIR WHO ARE
A LITTLE NUTTY ABOUT THEIR
HARVEST.
THAT'S NEXT WEEK.
IN THE MEANTIME, AN EXCITING
NOTE WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE
WITH YOU.
"IN WISCONSIN"'S SERIES OF
REPORTS ON WOLVES HAS BEEN
AWARDED AN EMMY.
OUR CONGRATULATIONS GO OUT TO
PRODUCER JOANNE GARRETT, BRAD
WRAY AND FRANK BOLL WHO
RECEIVED THIS AWARD AFTER MORE
THAN THREE YEARS OF CHIPPING
AWAY AT CAPTURING THESE ELUSIVE
ANIMALS ON CAMERA OFTEN IN SOME
VERY CREATIVE WAYS.
WE LEAVE YOU THIS WEEK WITH A
LOOK AT SOME OF THAT EMMY AWARD
WINNING FOOTAGE.
ENJOY.
FOR ALL OF US AT "IN WISCONSIN"
HAVE A GREAT WEEK.
>> I WAS SITTING AND I LOOKED
BACK TO THE WEST OVER HERE AND
I SEE TWO WOLVES COMING ACROSS
THE FROZEN LAKE AND THEY
ACTUALLY STARTED TO COME
TOWARDS ME.
THEY CAME WITHIN 200 YARDS, I
WOULD SUSPECT, AND THE LEAD
WOLF STOPPED AND LOOKED AT THE
BLIND.
ALL OF A SUDDEN HE TOOK OFF
RUNNING STRAIGHT TO THE NORTH
AND HE LOOKED OVER HIS SHOULDER
AS HE'S RUNNING.
IT'S ALWAYS A GIVEAWAY THEY'VE
SEEN YOU AND THEY AREN'T GOING
TO GET ANY CLOSER.
>> MAJOR FUNDING FOR "IN
WISCONSIN" IS PROVIDED BY THE
PEOPLE OF ALLIANT ENERGY, WHO
BRING SAFE, RELIABLE AND
ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY ENERGY
TO KEEP HOMES, NEIGHBORHOODS
AND LIFE IN WISCONSIN RUNNING
SMOOTHLY.
ALLIANT ENERGY, OFFERING
ENERGY-SAVING IDEAS ON THE WEB.
AND BY THE ANIMAL DENTAL CENTER
OF MILWAUKEE AND OSHKOSH.
A VETERINARY SPECIALIST WORKING
WITH PET OWNERS AND FAMILY
VETERINARIANS THROUGHOUT
WISCONSIN PROVIDING CARE FOR
ORAL DISEASE AND DENTAL
PROBLEMS OF SMALL COMPANION
ANIMALS.