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Good to go.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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So the environmental specialists, you said they go on site or near site?

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They kind of monitor the area.

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So not necessarily on site, but monitor the area through usually what we rely on is just

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our mapping system.

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So we kind of have an idea.

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And so we coordinate with the Department of Natural Resources and any of those local

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authorities to kind of keep in context.

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So when, as you mentioned, the gas leak that just happened, there was a number of different,

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whether it was the sheriff's department or bad rivers, response teams, all of the response

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teams, Enbridge.

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They all have this coordinated communication and we're a part of that.

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And so that's just based on what we have as far as kind of like, I guess, let's say,

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for lack of a better word, just the inventory that we have, as far as maps and areas that

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we monitor just for on a regular basis, it could be plant habitat or fishery or wildlife

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different areas there.

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We just are in constant, just constantly monitoring those areas there.

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In regards to the gas leak that happened just about just over a week ago, can you take us

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back to just a week ago and how the communication came down to your office and your environmental

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specialists that this occurred again?

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Well, I initially got a lot of my communication comes from the secretary of the DNR.

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And so our biologists that we have, there is a communication from the Department of Natural

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Resources.

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They sent something out where, and it was through email, so that's how we were notified.

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So there's, in that whole chain of email, a number of our environmental specialists,

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our biologists, and myself included, but I was contacted personally by the secretary

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of the DNR.

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That's how I was informed of what was happening there.

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Because we have strived to improve communication, and so we, it's established between Glifwerk

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and the DNR that we should be communicating with each other in that sense, regardless

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of what the situation is.

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What the situation is.

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So is it that when the gas leak happened, Enbridge has to communicate with the DNR?

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Yeah, because that's where the permit, the DNR is the permit, issues the permit, so

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they're communicating in that sense, and that's how they're bringing.

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In that communication, did they share how much gas?

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Was leaked?

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Not initially, there was just the immediate notification of a gas leak.

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So as for myself and our organization, we didn't know what the volume was, and so those

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are questions we ask in response, like what, all these different things, well what happened,

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what led to that, because we have a concern always for people, if there's families or

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people in the area, impact to the resource, asking a number of different questions.

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In addition to that, there was a lot of emergency response vehicles, so there was a

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lot of local law enforcement, so that was another thing that was, because it had showed

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up on social media, basically on the scanner of this emergency response thing, so that

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was the other way that we were notified about what happened.

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So there was an urgency, you knew something was really bad, something bad had happened

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when there was a number of law enforcement responding, and then there was just in addition

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to just your county, there was tribal emergency response, as well as Enbridge, and so there

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was this kind of, the alert was really high.

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Did they answer your question about how many gallons filled?

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No, they did not.

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As of now, have you been given an estimate?

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Yeah, we were later as the, because I have no direct communication, I have not had any

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direct communication with Enbridge, I have just been solely communicating with the Department

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of Natural Resources, and so I asked those questions, and when I was in communication

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with the state, it had not been remediated, it was still active.

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So I personally just asked the DNR, is there something you can do to stop that, and because

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there's an immediate risk to public safety, there's an immediate public safety risk, and

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I stress that to the Secretary of the DNR, to do something, you have to do more than

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just ask them, or just to stand there and watch, there has to be something more.

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So it was still leaking?

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Yeah, it was still active.

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What time did it start?

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I don't, I don't, don't recall the time.

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I'll find it.

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And so, I was actually- Sorry, your arms are blocking the microphone?

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Thanks.

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Oh, sorry.

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Can we do that more soon again?

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I'm not aware of the time of when the actual leak started, or when the teams were responding,

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what I do, what I was, I did receive a call from the Secretary of the DNR, and she made

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me aware of what was happening there, and then I talked with our team, our biological

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services, our enforcement, and our division of Intergovernmental Affairs to kind of get

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an idea, talked with some of our local, our tribal leadership, reached out to them as

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well, and made them aware of like the communication that I was receiving, and also asking them

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if there is anything that we could do to assist, you know, in whatever capacity that is, but

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just generally just asking that question.

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I did ask those questions of like, what was the damage, what, if was there any impact

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to the resource or any, you know, anything like that, and so there was no immediate

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answer or response from the state of Wisconsin, but eventually, you know, as hours went by,

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then we started to receive more information, and then as the days had gone on as probably

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more of the, you know, I don't want to say investigation, but as the progress of clean

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up and things like that, we were able, we were more informed of like what was what happened.

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And so the leak stopped and then it's the cleanup effort, so what are some specific steps

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that you do to support Bad River in this crisis, this environmental crisis?

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Well, the only thing we can really do for Bad River is to just share this with him, share

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with them any information that we received that they may have not received, so we check

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with them to see, you know, what they've received, because if we don't want to duplicate this

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really unnecessary, if they were receiving everything that we've received, but just based

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on our assessments that have been done, the collection of data that we have for those

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areas, we can just let Bad River know like this area may impact, you know, it could be

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access to, you know, rivers or streams or it could be, you know, harvest area for deer

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or, you know, or berry collection or anything like that, so we'd just look at, you know,

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just through our collection of data to share with them anything that might be relevant

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that they should be concerned about.

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So, when something like this happens.