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Great. Check one, two. Alright. So we have it for the cameras. Could you introduce yourself

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and tell us which organization you're with? I'm Zara Fakari and I'm Officer of Iranian

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Student Association at UWM. Milwaukee. When and why did you leave Iran? My parents

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say love to Iran and it was because of the revolution and also my father was a

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political prisoner in Iran because he was against IRGC so we had that kind of

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thing in our family so it was better for our safety to not leave there anymore.

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Have you ever been there to visit? Yes. When was the last time you were there?

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More than six years ago. How would you describe life there before the war began?

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People were in Iran we had a lot of uprisings so we were always waiting for a

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good moment that people can't get rid of the Islamic regime so what I would

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see every time more hope in people's lives and they were waiting for the

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moment whenever you would even sitting in the taxis or talking with youth or

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old people they would always say that it's pretty close to see the moment that

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they're gone and right now I see that even after facing all of these

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strikes in the country there are all agreeing in this that living under the

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common age dynasty is more horrible and terrifying for them than the threat of

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my souls so that's how they see the situation and how they are waiting for

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the moment to see the freedom for Iranian people because they not only

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thinking about their nation but also the other nations that they're already

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getting involved and they have been involved for 47 years so it's something

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that's national wallet and it's something that would help everyone to see the

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freedom and have a better and safer word and that's all we are thinking of right

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now tensions have been building for a while for months between the United

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States and Iran what was your reaction when you learned that a military strike

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from America and Israel had begun because I was in the all the uprisings it as I

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said it was not just started like a couple of months ago but the worst thing

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that happened to Iranian people was two months ago that the country was again

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under the blackout for more than 10 days we could not hear from them even the

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phone lines inside Iran was completely cut it off and people would even neighbor

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to neighbor they could not call each other so in that moment they slothered

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more than 30,000 people in the country whoever I knew as an Iranian I would

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talk to them and they knew someone close to their families relatives or friends

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that they lost their lives so we all of these tensions started before whatever

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happened with the intervention of any country like Israel or US so we faced

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that and we were all depressed and crying our eyes out for more than two

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months and after that that the blackout finished we could see what has happened

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to Iranian people and then at that moment we tried all diaspora and Iranian

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people outside of Iran we tried to be their worries and asking other countries

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to help our people because for 47 years we tried different ways with

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uprisings we protesting with everything we could not help as our nation we could

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not do anything for ourselves the only thing that the most precious thing is

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our lives we lost a lot of lives we do not have anything more to offer and also we were

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saying that other countries are facing some issues with IRGC and Islamic Republic and the

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threat is not just for Iranian people they're already kidnapped that's what I see

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even right now after 250 hours of blackout they're kidnapped so they're there and the

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the other nations are saying everything all of the tourist activities all of the

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things that happening and threatening people's lives in other countries if you dig into them

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there are some hands of them in that and they're Iran is a very wealthy country they have a lot

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of oil and gas and all the money just goes to supporting and funding tourist activities around

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the world so we begged for this moment honestly all of the uprisings and all the protests and

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rallies that happen even outside of Iran we were mentioning that we need help from

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us we were calling the president we were asking all the countries that it could help us so

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it was something as an intervention that they could help Iranian people to remove this Islamic

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regime and then Iranian people do the job and make the country a free country and taking back

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our own country to the the country the real Iran that was for 47 that was in 1979 it was a real

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Iran people were always judging Iranian people based on the country that it is right now because

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of the government we tried so hard and we are trying so hard to show that we are even kidnapped

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by them we are also under pressure of this government so we are Iranians and we are different we don't

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have anything to do with all of these activities and war should be a better place also for everyone

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so you do support the military action right now yes I do because as I said there was no other way

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around what are the discussions you have with other Iranians about the war who are here in

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Wisconsin with you we never say that we are not terrified we are we are scared of everything

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right now because there are different phases for Iranian people at first we were so happy because

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of the intervention that we were waiting for after that we got really happy and thrilled because of

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the death of the economy but we all knew that it's not just one person it's systematic we cannot

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say that and topple that government down just by killing one person now we are saying that

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everything is happening there and they are using Iranian people as human shield they're all getting

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hidden in the under the hospitals into schools even I'm seeing the Iranian

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Iranian TV that and media inside Iran that they're doing all their interviews exactly in front of

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the blackboards of the schools elementary schools so we are worried for our people it's not thinking

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about the military that is happening because we see that it's targeted and why the technology

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they can choose where to heat and what's happening there and those people who are responsible about

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all the things and terrorist activities are at the target but we are scared that as they never

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cared about humans lives in Iran they're again doing that at this moment using Iranian's life

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as a human shield so that's the most terrifying part for us right now who should lead Iran

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whoever Iranian people inside Iran and Iranian people outside of Iran agreeing with

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right now what I could hear the same both inside and outside of Iran was Rosa Pallavi

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and the everything that they were saying even the last time that Iran was not under

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back under the blackout there were a lot of Iranian students that they did protest inside the schools

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inside the university they were all chanting Javi Shah which in Persian means we're waiting for

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the king so Rosa Pallavi is the previous king son so now everyone is almost most of the higher

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percentage of Iranian people are agreeing on him and they're repeating the same sentence together

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inside and outside that's what I'm hearing and seeing so do you want free and fair elections

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for Iranians yes have you been in contact with family since the war began yes tell us about your

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family so it's so emotional it's because of the blackout there's no way to call them

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so they're calling us directly by the phone lines and the quality of the call is terrible

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what they say is always that we are okay everything is fine and everything will be fine

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do not worry about us and they're saying that they're gone they're already gone everything is

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finished at least in the minds of all Iranians so we know it's kind of over and we are waiting

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for that 24 hours that it happens because based on the history and everything that we read about

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other dictatorships everything happens in the last 24 hours they're standing to the last minute

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but they will fall down in a minute so what they're sharing is that and they're talking about how

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they're using tapes and scotches on the windows because they don't they really do not know

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where are they hidden for example my mother-in-law house all the windows shattered down because

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her house was close to one of the IRGC centers and by course I mean like more than five miles

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or six miles something like that but the point is that we are scary that if they're hidden in the

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neighbor in the other apartment beside you we do not know that's most of the times especially

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right now that they're targeted by missiles so she was like at first I was scared so bad and

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I was screaming and trying to get hidden because in Iran there is no sirens there is no shelters

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as I mentioned the government does not care less about human humans lives in Iran so there is nothing

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there people are just informing each other and imagine there is no internet so in 21st century

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how they can help each other someone is telling the other one or

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other opposite way they're just staring at the targets and recording that to just send it out to

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outside of Iran if they can but they are pretty sure that if the target the muscles are coming for

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targeting IRGC they're safe that's all I know and they feel like this but they're full of hope

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is it difficult being separated and not being able to communicate with family

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what I learned they could not cut off the line from inside calling from inside to outside

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but if I want to call them directly there is no chance and they don't have the internet

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either that's an outage nothing so when they call you is the only time you're communicating

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yes so yeah we set a time so they will do their best to call at that time in the morning

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that's how we can communicate but I'm comparing for example today it was the last I'm going to talk

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with them I'm comparing that to like seven days ago the quality of call is terrible and we were both

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saying that we guess that they're doing something with phone lines too and one of my other friends

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she talked on phone with her family and when she was like crying and asking like how is the

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situation because it's so hard from outside all your beloved ones all your family's relatives

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even your your own your own country is in a very bad situation it couldn't be worse than this but

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she was crying on the phone and when she said how is everything going on there the phone was cut

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it off all we you're pretty sure all of our calls are kind of be scanned or they're hearing

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what we were saying because they're filtering everything too so okay okay what are your hopes

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for family and the other Iranian residents still there I'm comparing my people with other countries

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like Ukrainian or other countries that they had the same situation I'm saying that Iranians are

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not escaping from the country they're not even going outside of Tehran or because many of my

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families are from Tehran in the capital and it was the main target they're staying at homes and

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they're not escaping from the country or even the city because they are waiting for better

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situation to come and also what I think is that people are like more trusted to

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Israel or USA if they're saying just stay at home they're rather to listen to that

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because the Iran government IRGC sent a text message to all the phone lines saying that if

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you're in Tehran leave Tehran and go to another city that was a text that they sent to Iran and

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people and then Iranian people were like okay if the IRGC says that we're not doing that that's

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how the scenario works there so I'm saying that they're not afraid they're recording the

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missiles coming down they are talking to each other easily and they are not escaping from their

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homes so I feel like it's so different from my culture to other cultures because they feel more

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belonging to the country and they feel like they have to stay at their homes and they have to

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support each other and do not get discouraged and also wait for that moment that's what I see

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from outside and as I mentioned the Texas from IRGC right now the Texas that they're receiving

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is that they're threatening Iranian people if they come outside and protest or do anything and

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there are going at night to people at night would chant from out and from their windows like

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death to victor, death to culminate something like this and then they started to walk it I mean

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driving around the area in the streets and playing some songs to cover those chanting and after that

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it didn't work now they're threatening people while they're driving around the area so now the

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situation is changed to threatening Iranian people on TV, on text messages now it's what they're saying

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inside. Okay you had said that you do want a regime change where do you stand on foreign

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intervention forcing that regime change is that do you support that? I do because after 47 years

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if you do have a checklist for getting rid of this regime we have done all the checklists

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it was the last option for us and also right now we're agreeing that together because the other

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they were saying that imagine after more than 10 days of being bombarded and all of those

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missiles to their centers to everything by the most powerful military service in the world like

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us and israel they're still there and they're threatening Iranian people how we could do that

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with bare hands was there any other option for us we could not see that and as I say the last option

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for us was losing more than 40,000 30,000 Iranian people I'm estimating the number because they

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would never let us know how many they are some Iranian organization by writing down the names

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they could do some estimations and now we know that they were with thousands of Iranian people so

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we don't have anything more to offer that's what we are thinking. Okay what are your thoughts about

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the anti-war protests here in the United States and those who think that America should not be

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waging this war? It's really important for everyone to know a people and talk to the people

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and understand those people from their shoes what I really want them if they are looking for

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something good for my people it's the best case scenario to ask my people whether is their thoughts

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no one says the war is good no one says that I want missiles to come to my country even if I say

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that there are IRGC centers there are buildings that they were built in my city in my country

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there are precious not only for me but also for my people but if it could help my people to live

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better life okay even not thinking about the better life if they can be safe for the next years or

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in the future I would like that to happen and also something helpful for other nations too

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they have to know what are we fighting with so if there is any other options for them

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let us know because we could not find any other solution for our people

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for our country for the safety of the Middle East now they can see how the IRGC is reacting

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they're bombarding Dubai Emirates it was so surprising for even Iranians that we are we can

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expect anything from IRGC there is nothing that you can tell me and I said that no there is a

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limit for IRGC there is no limit for them there is no limit in them for killing Iranian people

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for human shells there is no limit for them so what we are seeing is the true face of IRGC

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please see that and please talk to Iranians we Iranians who have our families are below ones

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inside Iran we would definitely know something that you might not feel it and all the scenarios

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are not as easy as you might think written on the paper everything might be complex and more

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complicated so we are thinking that this regime is more horrifying and more scary than IRGC to stay

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in our country that's what we think okay the Trump administration has said the reason

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that they began this war is to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons what are your thoughts

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on that as a justification for this war based on my my experience they have never said anything

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right they were so professionally lying if they have said that they stopped that 100%

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it's a lie if you ask any Iranian they would say that they're definitely they're they're lying

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so if if they say that they stopped it I believe they did not if they say that they wanted to use

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it for peaceful or anything good for human being our 100th person say that it was wrong if

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if there is a use of having bombs by having nuclear technology 100% that's what they were

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looking for so even if they if they say that they stopped it I would not believe that no

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no Iranian would believe that so if any other countries say that no there is some doubts that

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they were continuing that and they were progressing on using on a nuclear weapon or something I do

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believe that more so there is a good chance for them what resolution are you hoping for in the end

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getting rid of Islamic regime Iranian people doing their job to make the country free and having a

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secular government and better place and showing the word what is a real Iran and what is real

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Iranian people and how it could be a better word with peaceful country in the middle list that's

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what we are looking for I've seen some discussion that the Iranian regime is now threatening

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Iranians living abroad have you seen or heard that are you concerned um you know you would be

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concerned if you it's your first time seeing that we're seeing that every day

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Iranian embassy sends a lot of emails to me I can show you there is sending a lot of

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Texas to families of people who are who their their daughters or sons or they're

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anyone close to them or outside of the Iran and they're right now the last threat was for less

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than 48 hours ago that they threat us that they will take over whatever we have inside Iran if

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I don't know if we have an appointment in Iran they're going to take it over because of my

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activity if I do have I don't know a land or any property that I do have they would take it over

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so this was the most recent threat but there are tons and we are every day we're receiving

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emails because if you if they can access to you via I don't know Instagram or

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Twitter or anything they would do that too so and we are living that life of having threats

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every single day you're concerned that attitudes towards Iranian Americans may change as the war

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goes on and more American soldiers are hurt or killed honestly what I'm seeing between

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Iranian peoples I'm not saying that um I'm gonna say that human lives is depending on their nationality

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but we are so so concerned that more non-Iranians losing their lives because we see that it kind

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of helped to our nation so what we're praying all the time is that there is less American or

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non-Iranian lives to lose their lives in this path and we all appreciating this and we cannot

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thank them enough for what they're doing for our nation I know they definitely go into reflect

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all other nation's lives too not only Iranians but at this moment we're just

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just concerned more lives going to be lost with this so we're hoping that date happens ASAP so

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human lives can be saved more not Iranian also but also Americans as well sure okay how old are

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you 30 32 32 32 okay um I've asked a lot of questions there anything else that I didn't ask

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this important um I'm saying because as a person who is trying to be Iranian's voice we and joining

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most of the rallies inside America and being a member of diaspora of Iranians um we are seeing

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other groups that they're against us and they're trying to fight against us and kind of stopping

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us or even intervening with all the rallies that we are doing and they're supporting IRGCs

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even if they don't think that they're doing but they are doing that so what I really want them to

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know is that just by supporting Iranian peoples they can fight against IRGC and if they're against

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Iranian people outside of Iran or inside of Iran there are indirectly they're supporting IRGC

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so I would like them to get more educated on what is the real story what is the real feeling

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of Iranians or at least talk to Iranians or read their stories or talk about what's happening in

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Iran how is their feelings when they do have parents inside Iran definitely their feeling would be

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more realistic than a person who does not have any member of their families than God that they

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don't inside Iran so listening to us and trying to understand us although this uh might not make

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sense because Noah would look for missiles or war in in their country but if there is something that

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we are like trying to get out of that is what the most important thing for us so I would like them

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to understand us and also Muslim people around the world I never felt like they're supporting us

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Iran has more than 90 percent of Muslims in Middle East so I want them to support Iranian

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peoples they're seeing what is happening to other countries even that country with supporting IRGC

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like Oman or Qatar or all those they're not still safe so I want them to see the real face and to

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understand who and where they have to stand for real peaceful word so that's all I'm asking them

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and do not stop us from what we are fighting for okay thank you so much for your time thank you

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could I have you say your name against us so I can the pronunciation correct Z-A-R-A

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F-A-K-A-R-I okay and how do you say it Zara Fakari Zara Fakari yes okay should we do room tone

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Lena I think that's okay it's pretty wide in here I think we're good we're just going to get

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some more footage of you

