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started with Charlie Kirk and with his values and his movement throughout my campus. I had

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I got to hear him speak and talk about the values that the conservative movement provides.

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And I think that was so influential to me, the ideas of economical freedoms and the idea

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of God first and the people that we can centralize our state and our country around the idea

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of the ability to work hard for the money you get. And I think that's a huge thing that

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really drew me into the right. Yeah, totally. So we're in a new election season, right?

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And we got to vote us young people. So what problems do you think you're facing as a young

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person? What are you hearing from your friends about what their concerns are and what their

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issues they're looking for in politicians? Yeah, absolutely. I think a really big one is the

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economical problem. I think that inflation and certain costs have gotten so dramatically high

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that it's becoming difficult out of college to even own to get a home to own a home and to pay off

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that student debt that a lot of people are running into hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt

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that they're paying off throughout the rest of their lives. And I think that the conservative

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movement is providing a way to think that economical solutions are possible and that the moving into

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the correct direction that there is a solution and we are trying to move forward to it.

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Totally, totally. So something that we saw in the last election, there was a ton of articles on

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this. There was like sort of this supposed gender divide between like young men were voting very

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conservative and young women were voting very liberal. Is that something that you've noticed?

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Is that something you feel at all when you've been out there campaigning or talking with people?

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Yeah, I think there is certainly somewhat of a divide at least between men and women. And I think

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that a little bit goes to social media and I think that a lot of women are being told that the right

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is out to attack freedoms on them. And I'd like to advise that that's not the case. And I think

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turning point is providing the ability to show them we are not out to get anyone. We are out to

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provide freedoms for all and to provide an answer to all not take away any freedoms. So I think that

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the more that the young people especially young women listen to the ideas that turning point is

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trying to offer to them, the more they'll be understanding that we are not out to get anyone.

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We are out to understand and to talk openly with everyone on both sides of the aisle.

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Totally totally. Do you so something that I've heard from other people is that maybe there's a

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sense that one party is feeling like they're pushing a gender away or maybe not? Do you do you

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notice that at all? Do you feel like you're pushed away from the Democrats or do you think I know you

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just spoke to some women feel like they're being pushed away from Republicans? Do you notice that at

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all? I think I think to some degree but nothing is nothing to an extent of a large degree. I think

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that in any sense that women are feeling they're pushed away from the conservative movement

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should be taken back a bit. I think that no one is neither male or female are being pushed away

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from either side. I think they're open to both sides and that they should have the ability to

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openly discuss both sides of the aisle to really understand and grasp what they believe and what

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they can pursue. So I think that your question really is it has an idea of men are not being

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pushed away from Democrats and women are not being pushed away from Republicans. It's just simply

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different values in men and women I think. That's fair. So going back you were talking a little

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bit about social media and sort of its effect on our generation. Obviously like we've been on

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social media since we were like I've been social media since I was like 10. What effect do you think

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that's had on the conservative movement for young people? Do you think that's brought more people

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in? Do you think that's maybe radicalized people to different sides? Like where are your thoughts on

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that? Yeah I think that the social media line is something we have to be very careful with because

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and what you reach and what you understand and what you want people to perceive you as. But I

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think there's also another side to that of radicalizing the idea of hatred. And I think that so much

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hatred has been passed around on social media lately. It's gotten to extent that is out of control and

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it needs to come back. And if we can get it back to how it was where it was just simple

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common discussion and debate I think that's a super healthy way to use social media but the

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hatred throughout any apps or any media of any kind is not acceptable and should be

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reprimanded and understood. Totally totally and you know going into this debate

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point that you brought up obviously that's a very important part of turning point that's

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you guys use social media to kind of build this platform right with. I'm just wondering so when

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you're out tabling what are those conversations like what's it like being part of those you know

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conversations that you're having with students who maybe you're feeling coming up to antagonistic

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or maybe they're curious. How do you deal with that? Yeah so the first thing that I always think of

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when I'm tabling or with I'm talking to individuals from the right or the left is I understand where

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they're coming from. I try to understand their story and where their values come into play because

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values are such an important part of where we believe things and where we fall in the aisle

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that you have to understand that before talking to someone before trying to convince them that this

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is what or this isn't. So I think that the more you can understand the story the more you can

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discuss. There's plenty of times that people have come up and simply not known and simply

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who just had a question and wanted an answer and I'm absolutely happy to talk to those people.

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I'm coming from and if we can meet in the middle. There's also other people who know exactly where

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they are and they don't have any reason to move. They don't have any reason to come to a compromise.

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lot of demise, a lot of anger and I feel some of those people it is not a spite of us. I do feel

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that is true but I also feel it's a displacement of their own anger of themselves and I think that's

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I hope one day we can go back to the idea of open-mindedness to either side and so that you can go either

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side can go out and discuss openly about what is the truth and how we can get to it and how we can

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come to an agreement on it. Absolutely absolutely and you know something else that I've been hearing

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from the other people I've interviewed right when we look at like the current Republican candidate

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now it seems like they're going to be younger. We've had a couple presidents that are older.

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world. We're just kind of living in it. How do you navigate that sense that like maybe that the

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young person vote or just young people in politics just we just don't really have a place. Do you have

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that feeling at all? That's a great question but I think the youth vote is such an important vote

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and it absolutely showed on the last election with such the right swing and youth vote. I think

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more than ever the youth vote is becoming more and more important and I think that young people

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who don't think they have a voice or don't think they're being heard I'd ask you to reconsider

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because you are important and you really are the future of where this country is going.

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Your vote matters and absolutely no matter what you think it will impact the future.

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young people become more I guess politically diverse or do you think that was just like a

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one-off because of the economic situations. Where's your head on that?

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coming to believe that they want more of a middle ground they want to stop being

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the right comes to compromise with them and the left seems to fall more and more left that young

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voters will become more purple and even maybe more red and I think that's something interesting to see

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depending on how the parties react to that and how they will be in you know five to ten years

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and then three elections or four elections and I guess again time will just have to tell.

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of young voters identifying as independents do you think that young voters are being pushed away

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from the parties do you think they're unsatisfied with the current state politics.

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That's a really good question I think that the purple like the independents obviously is

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is is dramatic and is important to understand and to to value it but I think that it's not a

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dissatisfaction per se it's more of a uncertainty and they just they have a lot on social media

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young people are on social media more than any other generation and they are the ones

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who really take in the most information and so when you're taking in all this information from

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the right and taking all this information from the left it's hard to decompose all of it and to

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understand what it really offers and what it really is about and I think the more they understand

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and the more information that they get we'll see more right and left and less purple but

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it's tough to know if if there really will be a new independent middle ground for the young vote.

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Yeah yeah and you know obviously your organization was started by Charlie Kirk

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I'm just wanted I would assume you're a viewer of his do you have any thoughts on like his impact

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about how he's influenced your political ideology at all. Yeah absolutely I think his his stance was

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more of a discussion not debate he he never had any hatred for anyone no matter what the media

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would say about him he wanted to have open discussion and debate with everyone and I think

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that that really has changed my perspective on how politics should be run before him I was I always

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thought politics as a debate debate debate a right and a wrong and there must be some debate in the

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middle now I've come to believe there's discussion there's discussion to find a truth there's discussion

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to find okay you believe this I believe this let's find somewhere we can meet and find our truth

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what is the truth and I think that that has really helped me understand what politics really is about

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and what to understand moving forward. Yeah and obviously that was a very good answer by the way

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but you know do you think you could what have you heard from people who maybe aren't fans of

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Charlie Kirk what has their impact been on them do you think they've been he's been able to change

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minds do you think he's had a sway on the gente vote what are your thoughts there.

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Yeah I have I have plenty of people I run into on a daily I have family members who

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really did not like Charlie Kirk and I understand the divide with Charlie Kirk and his ideologies

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but I come I encourage everyone who dislikes him to really just go out and watch what he had to

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speak for and watch what he had to say listen to him and understand what he stood for and what he

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truly believed in because when you find out what he truly believed in and the open discussion and

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the the political discussion between both sides you'll come to believe that he actually wanted

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more of a compromise not a pushing away of those who are not in line with him and I think that's a

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really really key point if we want to come to an agreement in the future. Totally totally and

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did you just um and you've already you went into it a little bit but can you go into a little bit

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more about why you think the youth vote matters and why you are you know out there it's tabling

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uh when you do table. Yeah well the cliche way obviously is the youth is the future obviously

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the youth people are going to be here longer than the the older the boomers the the older

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generations that won't be here as long we have the say into what the future will look like so it's

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so critically important right now to get to those young people and to out stretch our beliefs to

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them to have the open discussion to have the open debate with them and understand where they come

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from and where we come from and how we can meet together to move forward for the society and the

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generation that we want to have. Totally and um man we blew through these questions um last

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question for you you can take your time to think about this um if you have one message that you

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would like to give to politicians what do you think they need to hear from young voters?

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I'm just going to take a moment just to think about that question thank you.

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If I had one one thing I would say to politicians it would be try not to be so far left and so far

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right and to find the middle so that we can come together as a country and be stronger

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being far right and being far left is okay but it's not going to get us anywhere in the end of the

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day. I hope one day we can come together and form the country that we desire. All right well said um

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anything else that you think you would like to have covered that you think I need to know?

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not that I can think of. All right well Zach very nice meeting you. Shaw very nice meeting

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you today as well um you'll let me know when you guys are tabling again and we can come film

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b-roll right? Yes I'll let you know um it should be when do you need it by? Um

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um probably the first week of school is when or second week of school I know that's probably

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when you guys are tabling that would be ideal for us I think. Yeah I can be in touch with you

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with our schedule I have to have a meeting with our team coming up so I'll let you know. Perfect

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thank you so much and thank you guys so much for coming today it was lovely talking with you both.

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Yeah thank you so much for having us. Thank you and um Elijah one last thing so when this package

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does come out do you mind sending this to us just so we know we know we are. Yeah cool okay well

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thanks so much everyone talk to you later. Thank you so much. Take care guys bye bye bye.

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And thank you Zach I'm gonna end this meeting now unless there's another reason I shouldn't

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I'm gonna take your silence as a yes

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very well