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Thank you so much for being here.

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So let's just start off really easy.

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Tell me about yourselves.

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I'm an incoming junior at UW-Milwaukee.

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My major is political science and I'm minor in economics.

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And you were the vice chair of college dance?

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Yes I am.

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And what do you do for college dance?

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Basically, really we're just trying to get people involved.

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And that really is the format of meetings,

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weekly emails, and also just like general outreach during like tabling.

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And what got you into politics?

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Well, really kind of started with like my familial background I would say.

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My parents are both very, very interested in politics,

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especially democratic politics in Milwaukee.

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My dad was a part of the labor union.

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My mom, she's a, she's a professor.

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So they both really see the importance of getting involved.

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And taking that personal right of civic duty.

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And you told me a little bit earlier that you actually gone out and

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acted in politics from a young age.

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What was that about?

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So basically my dad, big Obama fan, probably the biggest Obama fan I've ever met.

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we were really able to go out and canvas and doorknock.

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I remember being extremely cold.

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we were doing that and then he ended up being elected.

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And in my mind as a kid, I was like, I did that.

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You know, I was the one who allowed him to be there.

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But also it was just kind of the feeling of, you know, I can make a change here.

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And so you're a young person, right?

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I've been told.

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So as a young person that's engaged in politics.

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Tell me, what are you experiencing as a challenge right now?

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Well, I think the really the biggest challenge is I feel like a lot of young people don't

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think that the older people in office are seeing eye to eye with us.

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paying for gas that's over four dollars or paying for groceries,

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like facing necessities that aren't as cheap as it used to be.

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more than one job plus balancing, you know, just being young and also

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balancing school and life and family life.

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It's just all kind of becoming a little bit waited, I would say.

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Tell me a little bit more about like old people not understanding.

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Do you feel like that's something that's like part of the parties right now or part

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of your career and wave of politics that there's, you know, like this sort of

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divide between old people and younger people?

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I mean, like, you kind of see this a lot throughout history.

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reproductive justice.

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So I think that we just sometimes don't see eye to eye that tends to flat line.

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A lot of our, like, big issues.

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So I just think that a lot of the time there's just not a lot of through line.

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But, like, there sometimes is.

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You have totally.

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And so tell me about the college.

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Obviously you're a Democrat.

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So what about the Democratic Party?

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for that, which has helped so many people, especially in my city of Milwaukee.

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I don't know that.

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It's fine if you want to try that over or.

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The question was, what about the Democratic Party?

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progressive for some, I just think that they have a really good job of understanding

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that the world needs to change and it needs to progress forward.

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disconnect with another side so you can get what you want at the end.

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Do you think it's one party is pushing one gender away?

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whether that's in the home, being the breadwinner, whether that's in economics,

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being the smarter person.

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to be the breadwinners, to be the ones that, you know, understand that, you know,

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life isn't just a man's job, it's also a woman's job.

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when it's very much not that.

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Have you obviously do a lot of work in politics, but outside of that,

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have you experienced any of that kind of tension in your daily life at all?

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I was like, um, I think that, like, I'm very fortunate to be a part

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and be around many people that don't just see me as a woman,

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or doesn't just see the historical, I guess, notion that women have had.

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and really does understand the importance of equality and equity.

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that it had a really interesting framing on this.

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but women are doing worse politically, right?

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You had, like, the Me Too movement, um, Dobbs, right?

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Do you think that sort of helps even divide,

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but I think within the party, it really did just make us more closer,

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and it really made us understand that we have a lot more to fight for other than just fighting against Republicans.

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Like, we have to strengthen the base so that we can be able to take on people like Donald Trump, you know?

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Um, so moving away from gender, um, one of the, another stat that I saw was that, um,

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young people are more independent, um, and outside of the parties.

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They're still obviously going within the party, because, like, we only have two.

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What do you think our generation is so independent?

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You know, we've lost, or, I guess, Kamlo lost, you know, in 2020, or 2024,

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and then Hillary lost in 2016, like you said, and I think a lot of the times,

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it just doesn't seem like Democrats are doing enough for young people,

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even though it's kind of hard to get kind of that support across the aisle

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so then you can get things done.

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Yeah, and so, as a young person in politics, what do you see other young people doing right now that you think is great?

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Well, I think a lot of the time they're taking, you know, their own initiative to do the research,

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to go out, to go talk to candidates.

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is that we have social media, and we have the internet to be able to do that research

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Yeah, yeah, and, um, going back to college, Democrats, um, you, were you one of the, I'm sorry, um,

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I'm not, I misremembered. Are you one of the founding members of UW Milwaukee?

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I think that's really been the issue, is getting people, you know, interested in, well, why would I vote if I feel like nothing changes?

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or we can show you the changes of what we do when we really come together and get someone in.

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And I think with college Democrats, we were really able to hone in on that, whether that's, you know, tabling events,

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and, you know, we, we really want to have whoever the gubernatorial candidate is, like, we want them to come and speak.

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So we just really want people to just really be excited to go in, so then there'll be more inclined to go to the polls,

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so then there'll be more inclined to tell their friend, hey, you know, go vote, or even, like, just walking around with the sticker,

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you know, like, we have stickers that we give out, we have pins, like, we try to make it as fun and as, like, hard as possible,

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so then we make politics a habit.

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And, um, do you have, like, a, like, a success that you, from this time that you've been with College Gems,

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that you think you're really proud of?

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Yeah, I think one of the biggest successes that we've had was, um, we put on a candidate forum for two of the Assembly 19, I believe.

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Yeah, um, so basically we had a candidate forum for Assembly District 19 for Ryan Clancy and Bridget Manianci,

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and that's where we invited, you know, community leaders, students, my mom came, so many people came, we had questions,

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and we were really able to flesh out these candidates and see what they would do for us.

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and we were really all able to come together and learn about these different candidates,

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even if we didn't know anything about them before, we really did leave learning something important.

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Yeah, yeah, and you mentioned it a little bit earlier, but I want to know your thoughts on social media.

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How do you think that's affected our generation since we've had Instagram since, like, 10?

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You know, right? How do you think that's affected us?

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You know, friend is like, you can really look up anything and you can get that knowledge.

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You know, you don't have to go to a library.

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You don't need to ask someone who's already biased.

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You can go find, you know, unbiased websites.

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Foe is that a lot of the time people can go to the wrong places and find that information.

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Like, a lot of people go to TikTok for their sources, and it's like, a lot of times,

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TikTok is just people talking to a camera with opinions.

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It's not real backed up knowledge.

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there's a lot of people out there who want you to believe one thing,

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So I just think that it's been hard to juggle.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Two more questions for you.

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So this is going to air, like, September 25th.

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So way after the primary, we don't totally know who the Democratic candidate is yet,

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but it's, I think at this point, either going to be Crowley or Hong, right?

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They're both not 68-year-old, like, Tom Tiffany.

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No!

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So my question for you is, you know, like, do you think that has an impact?

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I mean, the last Biden was, he was hit on for being old.

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Trump is starting to be hit on for old. Lindsey Graham just died.

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What do you think that, do you think the age of politicians has an impact on youth folk?

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Oh, absolutely. I think that a lot of the times when we see someone who's a lot older,

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we just don't feel connected. You know, you can talk to your grandparent,

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but you don't really feel super connected like they understand how you feel.

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And I think that having younger candidates really does open up the pool for us to, you know,

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have greater ideas. You know, it's not just people who have been informed by the past,

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it's people who are also informed by the present and the future,

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and who will be leading the future, which is Gen Z.

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Yeah, yeah. So a final question for you. You can take your time with this.

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Do you have a message for politicians as a young person about what you want them to know?

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I have to make those guys. I have to make them the wrong guys.

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Oh, God. Let me think.

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I mean, I guess mine will be, we're here for you just as much as you're here for us.

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You know, as much as we want to help you get somewhere, you also need to help us.

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And I think that a lot of young people are helping, you know, with the Francesca Hong campaign,

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you know, the David Crowley campaign, and even with, you know, Sarah Rodriguez, who just dropped out,

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I think a lot of the times it's really backed by young people.

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A lot of the biggest movements have been backed by the youngest crowds.

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So I just think that we shouldn't lose sign on that.

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You know, if it's just not even just 19 year old, 20 year olds, 21 year olds, but like 10 year olds,

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11 year olds, like start them off young, you know, you shouldn't just allow

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people to just cloud your judgment, especially people who are older.

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You know, and I think a lot of the times we should be really pushing towards the future.

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And I think a lot of the politicians who I see running for the governor's seat really do want young people a part of the future.

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And that's what I like to see.

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Any final thoughts, anything you feel like we've missed on that you really want to say?

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Vote.

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Vote August 11th.

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That's what I want to say.

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This is going to air September 25th, you want to try it?

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Vote November.

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Very good.

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Thank you.

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One last thing before I cut, we got to get what we call room tone.

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So it's just 20 seconds of the sounds around us and like your conditioning a little bit of the street

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helps us smooth out some audio issues in post.

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Yeah, that's fine.

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And cut.