You A Menominee nation lawsuit against social media giants like Mera snap YouTube and tiktok Blames the companies for rewiring the brains of teens and young adults causing suicidal distress The suit alleges the algorithms coded into the platforms encourages obsessive scrolling and resulting negative self-image Especially among girls the lawsuit sites the CDC Saying tribal teen suicide rates far exceed the national average Alleging a link to social media use. We are joined now by one of the attorneys for the Menominee and Indian tribe Tim Purdon and thanks very much for being here Thanks for having me. So your lawsuit describes how soaring suicide and and mental illness have devastated tribal communities What is the situation among the Menominee in Wisconsin? Well generally across Indian country the reservation communities like Menominee, you know for for a long time Decades really, you know the tribal youth the teenage populations in those communities really some of the most at-risk Populations in this country. You look at any of the statistics for mental health suicide rates those sorts of things You know a Native American Female teenager as a five times Rate of suicide risk to a to a white female teenager Those sorts of statistics are all too common in in Indian country and over the last 10 years We've seen injected into that that vulnerable population The sophisticated business practices and algorithms of these social media companies which the growing research and data Directly links to decreased mental health amongst teenagers increased suicides all those sorts of things How exactly in your belief does a young person engaging with social media apps contribute to this? Well the the the the statistics are clear right the CDC studies are clear and they establish a link And so that that that is the scientific basis behind this lawsuit and a number of other lawsuits I mean, let's be clear Menominee Indian Tribe is not the first entity to come forward and sue these social media giants for the negative impact on on Teenage youth mental health 41 at least 41 state attorneys general filed lawsuits similar to ours last October Against these companies including the attorney general for the state of Wisconsin. So this is a nationwide epidemic a nationwide crisis social media platforms impacting young people and And the point of our lawsuit is is that in the mix of all that the most vulnerable Population of teenagers in this country our native teens living in their reservation communities. And so That is why this is what you describe as a first of its kind lawsuit right, so so historically Historically over the last 150 years if you will tribal nations have not necessarily come forward and exercise their sovereignty in this Way coming forward filing a lawsuit On a public health crisis that's impacting their their reservation as it's impacting the rest of the country in the big tobacco cases of the Late 90s American Indian Tribes were not plaintiffs They didn't sue the big cigarette companies and when those cases went to trial and settled Tribal communities didn't really share in the settlement dollars. So over the last five six years. You've seen that change Tribes were heavily involved in the in the litigation against the national and national litigation against opioid Factors and distributors for the opioid opioid epidemic in this country again An epidemic that has hit tribal communities exceptionally hard over 225 federally recognized tribes came forward and filed lawsuits against the opioid manufacturers And when those cases settled to date over 1.5 billion dollars will flow directly to tribes from those settlements This is the the latest situation where tribes are exercising their sovereignty sitting shoulder to shoulder If you will with the state attorney general from Wisconsin the attorney general from Minnesota and bringing these cases saying we are tribal governments We are sovereign. We have these claims. Our people have been impacted. It's a it's a robust Growing exercise of sovereignty by tribal nations in our country. What is your suit seeking? Well, I mean we there's a been a public health crisis the pseudo-leges. There's been a public health crisis created here and we're seeking You know compensation abatement We we want to see that the Dollars flow to the tribes so they can Develop programs to address the growing mental health crisis and in suicide crisis that is delect that is linked to the business practices of some of these defendants And so are there are there specific ideas to your knowledge on the part of the tribes of how they would specifically use this money We are you know, we're at the very we're at the we've taken the first step in what could be a very long journey towards justice here So to talk about what this might look like at the end, I think is a little premature I can tell you in the opioid cases tribes that have received some of that 1.5 billion dollars have built treatment facilities have have You know expanded treatment opportunities on the reservation and and those sorts of mental health treatment mental uh health care Uh options are all too scarce in Indian country So any monies that can be brought in to bring help to people on the reservation is is a big help All right, we leave it there tim perton. Thanks very much Thank you for having me You Really interesting thank you Yeah, yeah, it is uh, you know, we represent the monomony in the opioid case as well and uh, you know, the initial dollars flowed In august september Um, and again, those payments are over a number of years, but we have a client In north the coda that got that opioid money and is building a treatment facility on the reservation for the first time ever I mean the tribes 100, you know, the tribes 1000 years old the government's 100 years old and they've never had an on campus or an on reservation I should say uh Treatment facility so those sorts of dollars are are are important and having them flow directly to the tribes Rather than to say the state government and then the tribes apply for a grant and that sort of thing That's that's a big deal. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We won't be watching it. Uh, thank you. All right. Thank you. Nice to meet you. You too You