Upgraded and they'll be permanent time out here. So it'll eventually not be a problem. Yeah, but we could do that
We could either put it there or we could do an effect order of its program like we do for the
Like
State of the state of the state and stuff like that. Yeah
Where it's got the bar
So he just put the bar at the top with time in it and then programs and then everybody can see the time burst and then
Like that and that's that's the that'll tell us what program that'll tell us what what's actually being recorded
I'm assuming that was programmed during this. Okay, that's what I was watching
Yeah, yeah, I think a time bar on top and yeah, if you want to go there and we can all see it that works
table
Are we putting a drape over this
Okay, I'm just wasn't sure from the wide if like the chords and all that oh, okay
And like the tables because I guess from the wide behind we can see whatever's here. That's that'd be by
Okay
Yeah, I mean, I think the tables fine, it's just we'd have to be more conscious of like what is there
And the mirror and everything
Um
Does anyone have any thoughts about in terms of rich being queued I imagine it doesn't make more sense for you chan to
call me out or
I act like you're east. No, I mean
I'm just wondering what I ever
Would I ever dare jumping in and say hey, can I say something rich we were you hear us?
Someone was talking to me in my ear
I heard what you said what we were talking about before was doing a little hand signal
He's in here
Can you hear me you put up a hand?
Well, just even all of us on the set so like if Anya's like the beginning of the show Anya was talking to Sean
She was looking there and if I wanted to jump in without having Sean having to play conductor
Then I could just like kind of put my my pen up in the air a little bit. You know do a little sure casual thing
But if I'd I think you could do something similar because you wouldn't be in the shot necessarily. Oh, okay
Okay, I just didn't know if I'm gonna be on a screen visible to everyone at all times
And that's where we might have to see if we can get a program shot for you
So then you do know when and when you are not in the wide or the master shot
But that way if like like perfect example is to you know this time
She's talking over there Sean's looking at her and then you you want to jump in you can just do a little little little signal
You know Sean's got his eyes out
He sees that can give you the the head nod or the eyes go there and then he knows
That means we're not even gonna like redirect to just you'll jump in next. I
Think that'll make for the smoothest flow rather than having to like stop start go back to the anchor style host
Yeah, yeah, I like it. I like it. Thanks
He's it felt like the only pause it felt uncomfortable was in that early first couple interactions where it was
Yeah, I was I wasn't sure if I was gonna jump in and I like going back to you
I mean essentially there's never a time where I won't have something to say
But I also I didn't want to I don't want to sit there and dominate like
Everything I'm Zach must answer
And also, I know it's going to be difficult for you. That's the thing I worry about like
Accidentally just kind of like excluding rich because it's so much harder to non-verbally like we want to intentionally
Disclude you. Yeah, just that's fine. That's fine. I was in your position what I would say have them do is time me out long
Because when for me when they give me the 15-second wrap there's not enough time to resummer eyes
Yeah, unless you have something scripted feel like this is the brilliant pithy wrap up
It's much easier in my opinion
When you're running this to simply okay 15 seconds, then you know soon as I wrap up this sentence
Yeah, then we're gonna go to it that way if we're already over time
It's easier to cut out a little chunk
There's always gonna be ten seconds. They can slice if they need it for Wisconsin today for the podcast
It doesn't matter
So that way it's a little bit easier if your tendency is to wrap up tight if your tendency is
15 seconds and I'm gonna finish my thought whether it's 30 seconds or not then you wouldn't want to do that
So with a lot of it depends on where we will be ending
Like if we regularly get under 30 or under a minute
And like it's over there, but rich doesn't necessarily have time cues then it's a different scenario
Because he may not know oh there's only 30 seconds left. I should wrap this up and toss it back
I think we should all get those final minutes worth of time. Did you got them, right? No, you did not okay?
I could hear yours. You can though
But so I think like cuz also
Yeah, I mean I've had that happen in radio where like all of a sudden the music comes on and I had no idea
Yeah, I agree that everyone should get that at least the last minute to 30 seconds so that way we can
Wrap up without making it awkward and get it back to Sean and under under 15 or something
But that's where yeah, it'll be up to you to decide when I get that 15 second cue
Do I just want to that kill it on the spot or do I want to do I naturally run out the end of my thought
You know it's also probably a good reminder to me to have like a little to think about a little ending
Take that I can land with if needed
Yeah, these eventually you'll start to back pocket you'll eventually start to hate yourself by saying that's all the time
Fair because that's what we do at the every time I anchor and it's like
The audience gets used to it, but it's like usually it's a thanks for joining us
So we'll also leave it there. That's what Fred says my hot take on that topic is like
Yeah, they could solve a problem, but
But they really want to like
Crush the other side basically
That's why the name of our show should be because politics because politics
I'm going to literally pitch this and find Kyla put it on that
We'll put it on the document, although it's probably already
through 10 layers of
But then you could every single week look straight to camera and say why because politics just do that
Actually, I have a tool that I've taught my wife when I was explained to her why things happen in politics
Yeah, and I said this is the real issue that they don't want to talk about
And this is the constant distractions
They do so you don't look over here interesting and so every time she says why are they like she started doing it back to me?
Now be she can pick up on oh, it's one of these or wagging the dog's tail where yeah, because politics
It's not the real core issue
So that that would be my visual not that we I do I think one of the end
One of the things that I would love to do is a routine thing on Overton window or like big political science concepts like that
Yeah, because obviously everyone's trying to move the Overton window and people don't realize that they are in the middle of that process
Oh, and explaining to them here's what they're doing to manipulate your thoughts and emotions on this topic
Here's what they're doing to try and make this
normal
So you want to do a regular segment and now and now that Overton window and now we look at the Overton window
30 seconds on how much have we talked about the Epstein files this week for being the overton
Let's take a minute for background. What is the Overton window? Oh, we're out of time. Thanks for joining us. Let's talk about inelastic
It's your call my call you're the one in the middle. It's got a like I
Feel I'd be better like I'm more comfortable over there, but you know
Maybe I just don't know what this looks like to I'm like a little I've seen myself in some TV shots
And it's like oh god
That man is giant, you know, and so I don't want to throw things off
Too much that way and I worry that being in the middle. I will do that
Just be more symmetrical me. We're conical if you like graphed us
Well, I got seniority
Yeah, we're a bell curve
I'm older than you right how old are you? I don't know 47 ish. I'm 47. I'm about to turn 48. Okay
Whoa, we got ourselves to shoot out
June 19th, all right you win. I'm older. Yep. All right
So whatever you want do you do have seniority I do. Yeah, rich is actually 70 holds up. Well
That's my listening age on Spotify you jerk
And I told you that in confidence
Set in that northern Wisconsin lifestyle man. It just keeps you young
Nazareth
I think it famously
You want you want all of them. Yeah, yeah, that works
You want a 15 minutes or do you want it the first one at 10? Oh, I think that I really think
I think first one at 10 works for me
Yeah, I
Think it was I think ten five two and then the way you did it. Yeah
Sure
Is it really warm in there? No, I'm freezing
These used to be hot really I'm also always quite cold
It's my own fault, but I have warm feet warmers
Is there a way that I would do this that was not a cold open is my question today I don't think so
Hey, Zach. Hey, Rich. I think yeah, the two options. We just
There is some podcasts that just start in in the moment
Yeah, it's like we're already talking and then they start rolling the politics podcast
We just oh every you get the cue first words every week. We're basically hey guys
Hey, how's it going and we just like
Chitchat just hey you guys. I'll do it. I don't do that anymore, but yeah, this is not like
Chitchat set up. We're all wearing blazers a little I know it's a little different. I mean we can make it whatever we want
Yes, that's true. I'll do whatever whatever
I'll wear a t-shirt if you tell me to
Oh, yeah
So if the Wisconsin today audience is not getting any of the leads and then the anchors will feed
This is what they were talking about and then it's gonna come out to you right the first thing which will be a
Yeah, yeah, hey, Ronnie. Yeah, I feel like we should say something, right?
Yeah
Yeah, I
Mean I could just start with a question. It just feels it feels like in a podcast. I would say hi. I
Like that yeah, I mean everything we do on the set is always thanks for joining us. Yeah. Hello. Hi
You could break the fourth wall and just welcome them. Hello to you out there
Thanks to all five of you who stumbled across this. Yes, by accident
When we were doing the convention half hours every day at one point we had 67 people watching the live stream
Well, we are crushing it here
Was there talk did I overhear talk in that room the studio about an audience being
In place live studio
Yeah, is there going to be at some point though just the homeless people live in the stairwells
Yeah, okay
Every time they pitched on you like the first time everyone all applaud and cheer
Yep
Today in Wisconsin politics weekly Wisconsin leaders react to the shooting in Minneapolis a presidential endorsement shakes up the governor's race and
Top leaders in Wisconsin state government hint that they're open to some kind of a deal on lowering property taxes
Maybe this is Wisconsin politics weekly. I'm sure WPR capital bureau chief Sean Johnson joining me to talk about these issues
Our PBS Wisconsin political reporter Zach Schultz
WPR capital reporter Anya Van Wachtenonk and WPR political reporter rich Kramer
Wisconsin leaders react to Minneapolis a Trump endorsement shakes up state politics and a deal on property taxes
Maybe this is Wisconsin politics weekly
I'm Sean Johnson here with WPR's Anya Van Wachtenonk and rich Kramer and Zach Schultz from PBS Wisconsin
Today in Wisconsin politics weekly Wisconsin leaders react to the shooting in Minneapolis a
presidential endorsement shakes up the governor's race and top leaders in Wisconsin state government hint that they're open to some kind of deal on
Lowering property taxes maybe this is Wisconsin politics weekly
I'm Sean Johnson here with the BPR's Anya Van Wachtenonk and rich Kramer and Zach Schultz from PBS Wisconsin
Hey, everyone good to see you. Hey, Sean
Hi
Even you rich hi, I said hi I
Did like that intro the best
The last one I like the middle one. I like the topics and then introducing the show. Yeah, I think
Yeah, yes, yep, yep
You can find more at wpr.org PBS Wisconsin at org on our YouTube channels or wherever you get your podcasts
I'm Sean Johnson. Thanks for joining Wisconsin politics weekly or something else
Whatever you like, but I don't think so anything else
I
Think we're good if but let us know
I think you could also have the highs in the open
Like I'm joined with WPR's Anya and Rich. Hey guys. Yeah
Wisconsin's Zach
Oh, yeah, just like a little bit more
What if we did like knowing nods whenever you mention
So that part will be covered up on radio if it matters. Oh sure sure sure sure
They're probably gonna keep you on a one-shot for that whole intro
Alright, so that if we are going to do those cutaway, which we can when we have guests on we introduce them
We cut to the guest away from the anchor
So that's not an issue that just be a matter of talking to the director and I'm sure John would be able to we could
If it's scripted if you want, you know, it cuts to you and it cuts to rich cuts to me. However, though
What would you be open to trying one where I just kind of as I introduce people just
Saying hi to each of them
In the name of trying things and then I don't think we have anything else
One of the one of the shorter ones I think yeah
All right, all right three it is
Are you ready?
All right
You're gonna keep your hands in your lap. I don't know what yeah, what are we doing? They'd be up here
I always kept him on the desk. Okay. I appreciate the yeah, but just it's very yeah
No, thank you. Thank you
Thanks to all the TV folks making this less scary
Wisconsin leaders react to Minneapolis a Trump endorsement shakes up state politics and a deal on property taxes
Maybe this is Wisconsin politics weekly. I'm Sean Johnson here with WPR's Anya Van Wagt and Don Keanu
Rich Kramer in Eau Claire. Hey, Rich
Hello, Sean and PBS Wisconsin Zach Schultz. How's it going Zach? Hello?
Let's start with the reaction to the shooting of Alex Freddie as we have this light friendly intro
Yeah, it would be you're right. You're right. Okay, something to keep in mind
No, that's that's good or we can do PBS WP right as long as riches last that's the important thing
As long as we're clear on that. Yeah
We're all clear everyone's always been clear about it
A little nervous each time good is the key over enunciating each side. Who did I?
I knew Ben Mike Tindall. I mean like sometimes you've also called me like and now like sometimes you just I
Just like none of the name. I just go full boomer
It's fine. We haven't been working together that long or that closely. I don't cry about it all the time
Get them give me a few more years
We're stuck in the record, so all right
You guys record that so radio can have it tomorrow
We recorded it, but the plan is not so
There was some usable stuff in there was
We should leak it