You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You You I know that there are a lot of people still waiting to get into the fridge. area are probably going to be prepared for what they're going to see as they pull into town. Officials also predict the flames could pick up again this weekend. I don't want the community to there to feel a false sense of security that all of these fires will not grow anymore. For now, cooler temperatures and lighter winds have opened a crucial window for firefighters to tame the blazes. On Tuesday, another fire burned close to the nation's main nuclear weapons assembly plant near Amarillo. The site reopened after the fire shifted north. Former President Donald Trump today appealed a ruling that bars him from Illinois's presidential primary ballot. The judge found he incited insurrection, the January 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol. Mr. Trump's lawyer argued that, quote, staying the judgment until the Illinois appellate courts finally decide this case would reduce the great risk of voter confusion. The U.S. Supreme Court is already considering a similar case from Colorado. Congress is moving to head off a partial government shutdown this weekend. The House passed a short-term spending bill today and sent it on to the Senate. The measure funds one set of federal agencies through March 8th and another group through March 22nd. In Russia, President Vladimir Putin has renewed his warning to the West that it could risk nuclear war over Ukraine. That comes after French President Emmanuel McCall said this week that sending NATO troops to Ukraine should not be ruled out. If I use last night's run-downs, the pitches may not be exactly right. On January 31st and we are awaiting some test results, we were hoping that after the second retrieval, we will be able to move forward and beginning in March schedule our first transfer and this ruling has now put our whole timeline and all of our hopes in jeopardy. My name is Peyton Wade. I live in Nashville, Tennessee and I am 32 years old. I think it is absolutely horrific and shocking that this is the reality in the world that we currently live in. As someone who is currently 15 weeks pregnant with my miracle IVF baby, I cannot imagine that IVF would be looked at as anything but a gift for people trying to achieve their family goals and just navigate the world of infertility, which is traumatic enough. Unfortunately, I had multiple ectopic pregnancies that weren't really and truly diagnosed. IVF was the ideal choice for us and to be honest with you, it may be the only option for us. I disagree with the court's ruling that an embryo should be protected legally as a child because this embryo cannot thrive or grow without being in cryogenic freezer. It can only thrive or grow if it's implanted in a uterus and is given the chance to be born. Sometimes some of these rulings can have a domino effect. So while there are several Tennessee decision makers who have vocally said that they support IVF, that they do not see this coming to Tennessee, I think at the end of the day you just don't know who is really going to stand up and do the right thing when push comes to shove. I am very, very worried that women that are facing the fight of their life from a cancer diagnosis now will have to further make tough decisions in terms of if they're going to wait and see what our courts do in order to potentially preserve their fertility and delay treatment or if they will have to decide to immediately start treatments and lose the opportunity to have families in the future. We have three embryos that are still frozen right now. We have three embryos and I am just hoping even if it's just one, it's just that one. My husband and I will be happy if it's just that one but I at least want to have the opportunity to try. Supporters of the legislation to protect IVF treatments gathered at the Alabama State House yesterday to speak with lawmakers. Barbara Kalura helped to organize that effort. She's the president and CEO of Resolve, the National Infertility Association. She joins me now. Barbara, welcome and thanks for joining us. So we've seen lawmakers in Alabama move very quickly to pass bills allowing treatments to resume. The governor is expected to sign that into law and the state's attorney general has said he will not prosecute clinics or doctors providing IVF treatments. So do all of those things combined ease your concerns about access to IVF in Alabama. First of all, thank you so much for having me. You know, I'm listening to the providers on the ground in Alabama, those three clinics you mentioned that are paused. They believe that this bill, if passed and signed into law, will give them an opportunity to start seeing patients again. But I do want to say that there's still a lot to be determined in Alabama that is not totally resolved with this legislation. But for now, the clinics are confident that they will be able to reopen and begin seeing patients again once this is signed into law. What is not resolved with the legislation as it is right now? The law doesn't really talk about the status of an embryo. And so that was the real crux of that Supreme Court case was what is an embryo? Is it a person? Is it a clump of cells? Is it have the potential for life? All of those things are still undecided. This bill protects those providers and patients from any kind of criminal or civil prosecution. So it gives them some immunity and, quite honestly, that was a big reason why they paused. And so we've got a lot of work ahead of us. The good news is these clinics feel confident that they can soon reopen. So that's the case in Alabama, but we also just heard from Peyton Wade in Tennessee worried about what she called a domino effect that other states could also move forward with similar rulings or legislation. Do you see that concern as valid? I absolutely do. And the reason why I say that is because for many years, we've actually been fighting embryo personhood, fetal personhood bills in many states for many years, far before Robie Wade was overturned. When Robie Wade was overturned, we were very, very concerned because we thought we would see a larger number of these kind of bills, which we did in 2023. And we've seen a lot already in 2024. And we don't have the protection in that backstop of Robie Wade if one of these passes. And we know that legislators want to regulate IVF. We know that they want to define when life begins. And look, I was in the Capitol Montgomery yesterday. I was approached by folks who do not approve of IVF, who want it shut down. And they have a voice. And their voices are being heard, not only in Montgomery, but in other state houses. So, we're talking about the state level right now. But at the federal level, we did see an effort by Democratic Senator Tammy Duckworth, who herself relied on IVF to conceive her two daughters, proposing a bill to enshrine IVF protection nationally that Bill's path was blocked by Republican Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith from Mississippi. Do you see the only way to guarantee IVF access through some kind of federal legislation or move? I think it's a number of things. I think the federal bill is an incredible step. And it's an important piece in that puzzle. There are some state constitutions that we're going to have to still get fixed, similar to what we have in Alabama. But that federal legislation is gaining a lot of ground over the last week or two. And we are strongly supporting it. And we need to get that passed. You mentioned a lot of what we've been seeing since the fall of Roe v. Wade. Where do you see this ruling in terms of the trend we've seen since then, when it comes to reproductive rights? Yeah. I mean, this has been on the radar all along. It's just, I think, on the back burner. And I think this Alabama court ruling has really brought it to the forefront. We've already seen it. 60-ounce clear drinking glass. I'm going to support IVF. Thank you. I think we need to look at that. PBS retro. We need to study it. And that concerns me greatly. So I think we're going to have our work cut out for ourselves in many states. That is Barbara Callora, CEO of Resolve, the National Infertility Association. Barbara, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. Now, a story about an exhibition you cannot see. Some arts institutions have been roiled by tensions in the ongoing war in the Middle East. And one controversy has unfolded at the Art Museum of Indiana University, where a prominent Palestinian American artist was scheduled to have her first American retrospective this month. Jeffrey Brown reports for our arts and culture series, Canvas. A work of art returning from an exhibition carried up the stairs to the New York studio of its creator, Samia Hallaby. Here it is, the queen bee being treated like a princess. But this is no routine return. The queen bee was never put on display. The exhibition titled Centers of Energy and scheduled to be shown at the Eskenazi Museum of Art at Indiana University was canceled in late December. The only thing they told me was through sentence letter. The show is canceled and the artwork will be returned safely. That's all. 87-year-old Samia Hallaby is known for her large and vibrant abstract paintings, which she's been making for more than 60 years. In addition, she creates sculptures and works with fiber and textiles and was an early practitioner of computer and digital art, teaching herself how to write computer programs starting in the 1980s. She's also a passionate supporter of Palestinian culture and advocate for Palestinian rights. She was born in Jerusalem in 1936 when Palestine was under British control, playing with her family amid the fighting that eventually led to the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, the period known to Palestinians as the Nakba or catastrophe. Her family eventually came to the US and settled in Cincinnati, Ohio. As an intellectual, I chose to be an abstractionist. I am a Palestinian, and I believe in the Palestinian will to have freedom, I believe, in the right of self-determination and self-defense. I love Palestinian culture. All of these things are me. Her tie to Indiana University is strong. She received her Master of Fine Arts degree there in 1963 and later taught before moving to Yale in 1972, where she was the first woman to have the title of Associate Professor at the School of Art. Her work is in the collections of major US museums, including the National Gallery of Art in Washington and the Guggenheim in New York. And she recently had a large retrospective in the United Arab Emirates. The cancellation came as she was using Instagram to express outrage at Israel's bombing of Gaza in response to the October 7th Hamas terror attacks on Israel. She called Israel's retaliation a genocide and compared Gaza to Auschwitz. Though she was well aware of the tensions at universities around the country, including Indiana, she says the cancellation was a surprise. I thought, stupidly, that I was immune because I was an alumni and belonged there. And so it came as a surprise. My first reaction was to be upset because, hey, this is my second home. You know, someone is now stealing my second home from me. But then I got over that quickly, and I thought, ah, the community there is really very upset about it. It's been quite a big deal, and the fallout is still coming. Ethan Sandwise has been covering campus reaction at Indiana as a multimedia journalist with Indiana Public Media. We're seeing a lot of students and faculty organizing protests, sit-ins, teach-ins. A venue in town is putting on a retrospective in the place of the museum. So the response here has been quite significant. The university itself, however, has said little publicly. In response to the news hour's request for an interview with university president Pamela Witten, we were referred to this previously released short statement. Academic leaders and campus officials canceled the exhibit due to concerns about guaranteeing the integrity of the exhibit for its duration. Last month, university provost Raul Srivastav also cited security concerns at a faculty forum, saying, in part, in this case, we had clearly competing values. We had an exciting W exhibit of a major international abstract artist and alumna three years in the making. We also had a potential lightning rod at a charged political moment that might draw ongoing or major protests and require significant and long-term security we would need for hundreds of other events. Reporter Ethan Sandwise sampled responses across the campus. I haven't spoken with anyone who feels like this is a compelling enough reason to cancel the exhibition. I've talked to faculty members who say if there is a security risk, then that's why we have an IU police department that can provide that extra security. So I don't think a whole lot of people are buying it within the IU community. Hallaby had worked on the exhibition for several years with a curatorial team headed by Elliot Josephine Layla Reichert, who told us she was instructed to refer press inquiries to university communications officials. In lieu of an interview, she sent an email statement to the news hour saying, I am immensely proud of the work that Sammy Hallaby, Rachel Winter, and I accomplished together. Anyone who has the privilege to witness Hallaby's artwork in person will understand some small piece of the beauty and joy we have experienced working together over the past several years. The controversy at Indiana is just one example of the conflict in the arts and culture world since the October 7 Hamas attack, including 92 NY, a cultural center in New York, canceled an October event with a novelist who signed a public letter critical of Israel. Several staff members resigned in protest and other authors pulled out of their events. The editor-in-chief at Art Forum, a prominent arts magazine, was fired after the magazine published an open letter from artists calling for a ceasefire in Gaza. At another Midwestern university, the Wexner Center for the Arts at Ohio State decided to keep an exhibition by a Palestinian artist that had opened prior to October 7. But it canceled a public panel she was scheduled to take part in. In a follow-up email to the university administration, we asked if it was aware of specific security risks, whether it had canceled the exhibition due to Sammy Hallaby's public statements and if it had received pressure to cancel the exhibition from politicians or donors. We were once again referred to the one-sentence statement. Sammy Hallaby, however, believes she knows why her exhibit was canceled. Oh, it's obviously an extension of what's happening in Reze, we Palestinians are not allowed to speak or express our opinion or in my case, because it wasn't a political show, provide a role model to students as to what intellectual activity could be like. But a museum or a university in this case does have a right to decide who they're going to exhibit. Yes, and they decided to take me two and a half years ago. So they changed when the genocide began. So what gives here? You have no regrets about using that language. Do I not have a right to express my feelings? My feelings is that I'm horrified. I'm equally horrified when I see other things happening. I'm equally horrified at the Holocaust, of the Jews. I'm equally horrified at about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I'm horrified by what happened to the African Americans. When I read about all of these things, they bring me to great sadness. Meanwhile on campus, a petition to reinstate the exhibition is circulating, and reporter Ethan Sanwise is hearing fears of another kind of fallout. A lot of faculty that I've spoken with are worried that- Hello, I'm testing one, two, three. How are you? Good. I'll be talking much louder though, just so you are not standing strong. Did you bring your theater voice? Researchers, it could send a signal to people who might apply to IUS students as graduate students, as faculty that Indiana is not a place where they would be welcome, and it's not a place where they would be able to perform their research undisturbed. As for Samia Hallaby, her work will next be shown at the upcoming Venice Biennale, one of the world's leading international art exhibitions. And her canceled retrospective exhibition is so far scheduled to run at its next venue. Michigan State University's Broad Art Museum, beginning June 29. For the PBS NewsHour, I'm Jeffrey Brown. We'll be back shortly. 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It's mainly like a recreational park. It's flat. There are no monuments, but there is a skating pavilion. There is a pool. There's also a bike trail. Easily a million people use Anacostia Park over the course of a year. The majority of those people that use that park are African Americans, and so the park gets a lot of use in a cultural context. The Friends of Anacostia Park helps to support the National Park Service's goals around keeping the park nice, keeping the park accessible. When I was tasked with building the Friends group, I knew I didn't want it to just be another organization, raising funds, because we had a lot of social capital and a lot of human capital that we needed just as much as those dollars. The premise, again, is on membership where you can have no money and just donate your time, so their human capital could look like the form of helping us clean up the park. But we also need grandmas to sit at the playground and watch over and make sure people are safe. 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And for this episode, we're focusing on the area around State Street, which connects the state capital and the campus of the University of Wisconsin, Madison. I mean, I don't understand why Milwaukee is not the capital of our great state of Wisconsin, because it's the largest city in our state. Here's where the story began with Madison. We're going back to 1829, when former federal judge James Dodie purchased over a thousand acres of swamp and forest land on this isthmus. I mean, he had big ideas. So at the time, the Wisconsin territory was just getting created. The legislature was meeting all the way out like 65 miles southwest of here in Belmont. Well, their whole goal was to try to find a permanent location for the capital. So for those undecided voters, Dodie said, you know, what's cold here? Let's let me get you a buffalo robe to keep you warm. A fur coat for you. And you want to build a nice house here at Madison. Here's a discounted lot. It's a great deal. It is. Yeah, but I don't understand why they, why they named the city Madison then. So in 1836, James Madison died. So Dodie said, you know what? In his honor, we're going to name the city Madison, which I got to say, is a better choice than like Dodieville. And we're covering in this episode the area around State Street, which really shows the energy of this city. Best people watching, ever. But from the capital to Baskham Hill. Yeah. 12 minute walk. You're a super fast man. Everybody else is going to be 14. You can bike it in four. And get an episode of television in 28. Well then, to Doc, let's go. Let's go. I'm very excited to be back in our state capital. What a beautiful building. The visitors here, they're not just Wisconsin people. They're people from all over the world. I'm sure we have the pleasure to meet people internationally. It would assist if I knew four languages. You know, the three that you know are enough, Chris, a badger. Are there a few of these in the building? A few. How many? 1,800 is what somebody has counted. On each door, there are two. 750 doors carry the one. 1,500 right there. Yeah. There is a 1,200 pound badger outside of the governor's office. And every day, our fourth graders come and they rub its nose for good luck. And is there anything you say when you rub the nose? Go pack. Go pack. Our first capital at a different site down there, Belmont. Looks like a grocery store to make. Correct. And it lasted only 42 days. So they built this and we outgrew this one. And they built this wonderful second capital until 1904 when fire did take place. And this is where we are today. People go, oh my gosh, and you're as safe as could be. Look, one can see two of the four mosaics. And each of these four mosaics, 100,000 pieces of tile. Observation deck this way. Only 11 steps more. That's right. I'm counting them. Please do. Okay. 11. It's Madison's best kept secret. It really is. People come up and go, I've lived here for 40 years. I've never been. Never been. The size of the dome. The volume makes us the third or fourth largest dome in the world. On the top, our lady, Wisconsin. She is in all her magnificence at 284 feet. This exquisite building has one flaw. What am I looking at? To the right side of the window. This one is missing an ornament. They forgot to put it in? They purposely did not. To show that nothing is perfect. Can we get it done though? I'd like to see that done before I leave. Yes. Two o'clock this afternoon. It'll be done. Thank you so much. Yes. Do you see this building behind me? It has been through so many makeovers. It opened as the capital theater back in 1928. And it opened as a silent movie house. Complete with a Grand Barton theater organ. And it's one of the only Grand Barton's that still works. And it's still in its original location. Of course, silent movies were pretty short lived. So it turned into a concert hall. And they welcomed acts like The Beach Boys and Lawrence Well. Well then came the 70s. And the city redesigned this corner. And they turned it into the Madison Civic Center. Well fast forward to the 1990s. And this building really needed a lot of repairs. Well thankfully one Madison resident stepped forward in a big way. With over 200 million dollars. At the time it was the single largest donation to the arts in American history. Right here on State Street. Let's talk about the importance of public art in any community let alone Madison. Public art is really it brings people together. It encourages critical thinking. It's something that it's more than just beautifying space. And really encourages discussion doesn't it? Absolutely. Yeah a lot of discussion which is what we love about it. You have a high respect for local artists don't you? We've worked with a ton of local artists on project. But we also like to keep it open to international artists to apply. Can we talk about your more recent installations? One of our newest pieces is at the Confluence at Library Mall. Which is this meeting of the State Street pedestrian mall. And the University of Wisconsin Madison's library mall. On the one side we have this natural Wisconsin granite that's very rough and rugged. And it's sort of acting upon this stainless steel laser cut form that is very sleek and modern. I don't know that a lot of people realize this but there's this orange circle at the top. The sun shines through on the equinox. Which is kind of a cool fun thing to know. And the total number of pieces in the public art in the city of Madison. We have a little over 80 outdoor public artworks in the city. Not including our utility boxes. Of those we have a little over 100. A utility box. The city of Madison in 2016 did a pilot program to start wrapping utility boxes. Which control all the functions for the traffic signals. Yeah. And the public loved it. And each year we'll do more and more. What is this called? This is called Four Lakes. Okay. It represents the Four Lakes of Madison, Mandota, Manona, Wabisa and Kaganza Lakes. And in the middle is a water feature representing the river. And at the end there's a badger. And obviously the badger is UW Madison's mascot. Yeah. What are these guys? Well, these are Philosopher's Stones by Jill Sebastian. And they're multi-purpose, aren't they? Yeah. So they're really encouraged people to, you know, sit. Yeah. See? They're very comfortable seats. And you'll find these up and down state street. Yeah. Absolutely. This is a plaza in Florida? Yeah. We're in Keith's part. And we have lots of festivals that use it all the time. Mary Rose is the expert. And I saw a sign that said, please step on Green Circle to activate Fountain. She was like, no. Right. I'm impressed. So Holla, I'm excited. I'm excited. Not known that these work. Eight years. I had no idea that this function. Isn't it great? Every day. Hitler. From where I'm standing, I can see one, two, three museums. With an a mile from where I'm standing, can you guess how many museums there are? Within just one mile of the state capital, you will find count them seven different museums. So right on the Capitol Square, we have the Madison Children's Museum, the Wisconsin Historical Museum, and the Wisconsin Veterans Museum. Just on State Street is Emoka, the Madison Museum of Contemporary Art. And then on campus, well, we have the Chasen Museum of Art, the Geology Museum, and the Physics Museum. And I feel smarter just having read you the list. The food selection on State Street is no joke. There are concepts from all over the world. We're talking Greek and Mediterranean, Venezuelan, Hawaiian, Mexican, Chinese, Russian, Italian, Japanese, and Nepalese. If you come to State Street, you can't find something to eat. You're not hungry. We're on State Street. Sorry, I had my wife. I felt just veggies. How did you open up a vegan restaurant in Madison, Wisconsin? I don't think he's doing a lot of health issues. And he told me don't end up like him. I went vegan, so I made a Ruben Slatter. Okay, you made a vegan Ruben Slatter. Yeah. Shut up. I'm not a vegan. It's nice to have you home places, isn't it? Yes, it is. It's a lot of responsibility. It's a lot of hats. It's a lot of hats. A lot of hats, because, you know, I'm the prep cook. Yeah. There's your watch, the HR. So does your wife work here as well? Yeah. She does. The whole family. The whole family. Yeah. I have nine kids. Excuse me? Nah. And I see why, because he knew I needed someone's phone. You know, right? This is mercy and grace. Is that right? So is everybody in the family vegan? No, just for that. Just your dad? Yeah, we're vegetarian. We're vegetarian. That's the vegan chicken. And in truth, what is it? Just wheat and spices. Wheat and spices. Oh, and they're going to go into the fryer. Yeah. Do people turn vegan to lose weight? Sometimes it's about health issue, then sometimes it's about animals, too. Cruelty to animals is one issue around it as well. Orange sauce? Oh, here we go. Right on top? Take a look. How gorgeous is this? But does it taste like chicken? Do not light them in. Now that's stupid. It tastes just like chicken. Then they'll be like, and then McGivron left Madison of vegan. This is delicious. Some places change a lot. State Street is one of those places. And some places stay the same. State Street is one of those places as well. The Orphean Theater, been here since 1927. Goodman's Jewelers since 1933. Badger, liquor, and triangle market, both established in 1935. Mix restaurant began serving food in 1959, and Paul's bookstore and stoppage shop have been here since 1962. That's the best thing about State Street. Well, State Street and Madison, a place that changes and stays the same all the time. We're in the studios of PBS Wisconsin. Thank you for joining us. We're taking a short break in this great show to ask you to support PBS Wisconsin. And to help us encourage you, is the show's producer and star, John McGivron. John, great to have you with us. It's great to be here. Thanks. So John, your lifelong Wisconsinite. I am. This is the first time you did in depth in State Street, Madison, Wisconsin. My relationship with Madison is limited. Like, you know, we shot a Madison for around the corner with John McGivron, the first show I did. And then we came back. So it's like, I know Madison, because of the TV work that I do. And State Street, we thought, we will do State Street from top to bottom. And we covered it all in this episode. And really well, as we can see, with more coming up. So people want to know, John, are you living in now? No. It did taste like chicken. It tastes like chicken. It was good, right? I love that. Everything kind of tastes like chicken. And the things you can find on State Street, if you only look, right? And that's what's so great about Main Streets. There are things you can find if you only look. And having a guide like John McGivron is a great way to look and to see all of Wisconsin, and in this case, State Street and Madison. And I love that people will come up to me and say, I had never been to that community before, but because we watched your show on PBS, we either went or we plan on going, or this is going to be a weekend for us. And that's kind of the purpose, I believe. Great way to educate and stimulate people's interest. We'll be back to talk, John, with John a little bit more. But first, with ways we say, thank you with your membership gift. Here's Eric. Hi, I'm Eric Reiling. I'm director of Friends of PBS Wisconsin. 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Hi, I'm Michelle Goode from Wisconsin Public Radio and PBS Wisconsin invests in Main Street because we hear from people like you, how much you love this program through surveys and comments and through your donations. So show your support right now by donating at 1-800-236-3636 or going online to pbswisconsin.org. And when you make that donation, one of the best ways you can show your support is by becoming a sustainer. Well, what is that? It's ongoing monthly donations from your bank account, your credit card. It's easy for you because you are a member. It's ongoing until you tell us to stop. It's better for us because we can budget around the money coming in. It's a win-win for both. So when you make that donation, ask to become a sustainer at 1-800-236-3636. John, as you pointed out with State Street, it stays the same and it changes. Main Street stays the same. Introducing people to fabulous places. Fascinating people stays the same with you out in front. But it's changes too because you go into places you haven't been before. And apparently, the highways and the byways cross-state lines now. We are crossing the borders. How about that? We do two episodes in Minnesota, two in Iowa, two in Indiana, two in Michigan, and then we do three in Wisconsin. This year we did two in Wisconsin, and our final episode of our season is we're going to a place called Clipsville. Clipsville, where's that? There's no such place. It's an institute you're showing, talking about showing kind of behind the scenes of most everything. So we shot that not too long ago. It's a great episode, and it's the final episode of our season. So. Great, so imagine some places out of state are similar to state, but I'm sure you're finding things that are a little bit different. You know, there's a real kindness around Midwest. Like there's a Midwest sensibility, there's a Midwest like openness that I've lived all over the country. I've lived in Los Angeles and San Francisco, in Atlanta and Tampa and D.C., Chicago and Midwest is, there's a kindness that's always there, and I love it. There is a kindness, there's something special about the Midwest. There's certainly something special about Wisconsin, and PBS Wisconsin, and the most special thing is the kindness you could show by becoming a member right now by calling the number on your screen. Eric? If you've been enjoying John McGiver, and I'm PBS Wisconsin for years, watching around the corner with John McGiver, and watching John McGiver in his main streets, now is a great time to call, become a member today, show your support for programs like this, programs that take you into Wisconsin, now take you to five other states as well. It's a great time to call. Go ahead and use your phone or your tablet to capture that QR code that's on the screen. 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And if we've talked about what's my favorite thing doing in this show, it's going into factories, it's manufacturing, it's getting into a place where people are making things that I've touched in my life. And there's a guy in Walk of Shaw who makes baseball bases. He makes all of the baseball bases for all the amateur high schools and amateur baseball all over the country. And it's out of Walk of Shaw. It's a staff of five people. And we had a chance to spend an hour. And I made my own base. And he was like, do you need it? And I said, I want a set of big. Come on. You know, just the fact that it's manufacturing in our state. And it ends up all over the world, really. And I love that. You're never off base. No. When you're on the main streets in Wisconsin. These are the comedian. Very good. It's a rubbing off on me. It's good. We're going to go back in a few minutes to the rest of this great show about Madison. But before we do, it's really important that you support your PBS Wisconsin, because that's how we go out and make these shows, like the one you're enjoying tonight. They cost a little money to make, but they're so worth it. They reach so many people, and they last so long, and your gift will have so much impact. Eric? We are going back to the program in just a few minutes. So it's a great time for you to call right now at 1-800-236-3636. Show your support for this program. Have some fun along with us. And enjoy the great ways that we have to say thank you during this pledge break. Use that QR code that's on your screen or go online, whichever way you want to choose to give, it's easy for you. And let us say thank you to you. At the $10 a month level, we'd like to say thank you with this book, Thousand Places to See in the United States and Canada before you die. There's a lot of great places to visit here, and lots of great photographs for every place that's in here. 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We got just a little less than a minute before we go back to the show, but I know that you do a lot more things than just, I don't want to say just, do a lot more things in the main streets. What else you got coming up? I'm going to be, and it's because of my relationship with the show and PBS that, so I'm going to be at the Cal Center in Reedsburg in April, and I talk about my life and my stories. I'm going to be in Ashwabunan, near Green Bay, at the Performing Arts Center. Again, in April, and I do an evening of stories, an evening with John McGivverne, and people are always like, I know you from PBS, and it's like, now I've got some stories of growing up in this great state, and people relate. I can understand. It's a wonderful state, it's a wonderful show, and a wonderful service, and you make it possible with your gifts. We're going to go back and watch the rest of this episode. Thanks. I usually happen right here at the top of State Street. The idea is to make a more inclusive and engaging downtown. We do that through music, we do it through visual arts, and we do it through small business vendors, all of color. How did this come to your mind? Funny story, I used to live in this building right here for about eight years, and during between the pandemic and civil unrest, I saw that State Street kind of lost some of its luster, and I was figuring, you know, what ways can we try to get that experience to get people to come back and help revitalize this area? So you don't live here anymore? I don't live here anymore. Well, now look, it would have been perfect. It would have been? I'm still a downtown guy. Yeah, yeah. You can walk here. I can still walk here. When the civil unrest happened, there was a lot of visual art that happened out here, and that's kind of what inspired the idea of making sure that we had visual artists that were represented in a series as well. Food wise, what do they do? Food wise, we get different vendors from throughout the city of color. It's worth the top of State Street. Is there anything specific about as you make your way towards campus? So like on this end, it's more of the traditional business idea. Once you get past Johnson, then that kind of becomes the campus area. Look at the kids. But hey, let them have their fun. They do it on. If you get 150, 200 college kids that come up the block, and then you mix that in with the one or 200 community folks that are coming out, that's the hope that we put the practice, the idea of being inclusive. Reach out to someone that you don't know. And take that chance and have that conversation. I'm sure the community thanks you for doing this, but thank you for doing this. That's cool, man. Thank you. Did you know that Madison has its own official city bird? And it's not the same as our state bird, the robin. It's much taller and much more colorful. OK, that was your hint. As far fetched as this may sound, I promise it is true. The official city bird of Madison is the perfect pink flamingo. That's right, it dates back to 1979 when two students literally filled Bascom Hill here with over 1,000 flamingos. I mean, it started as a huge prank. It has turned into a yearly tradition. That is an awesome fundraiser for UW. It's so cool. They were so popular. It officially became the city bird back in 2015. Good. I just need 1,000 more. You know where I'm at? I'm at the terrace at the Memorial Union. Do you know what this is? Sunburst, sunburst chair. The back of this chair is the trademark design of the Wisconsin Union. That's what they all students have in common. They've all sat in one of these chairs, some kind in their student career here in Madison. These colors, they're supposed to evoke summer, spring, fall, and they're supposed to pay tribute to the history of Wisconsin farming. You know, you can buy these chairs, but you buy them in red and white. And if you own one that is green or yellow, you're a thief. If you have never tried stand-up paddleboarding, give it a shot. It seems scarier because it's like, oh, this is going to be tippy, but it's not. It's not. I've done it. They're super fun. But the first moment on it is like, this isn't going to work. And then 20 minutes there, you're like, look at me. Yeah, it's super easy. It's getting you out there and trying something new. Talk about this program. Yeah, so Outdoor UW has been in operation for the last four or five years. And it's kind of a newer component of the student run clubs, which is the Hooper clubs. Where did the Hooper's name come from? There was a saying called Hoofenen. Basically, it just meant getting somewhere on the power of your own two feet. So, Sam, how many clubs are there within the Hooper's organization? Yeah, so there's six clubs, the outing club, mountaineering club, riding club, sailing club, scuba club, and skin snowboard club. This has been a UW saying since what, the 30s? Yeah, it's did the test of time, definitely. I think it's just the outdoors doesn't go out of style. Our goal here at Outdoor UW is to get folks to learn more about the outside, to recreate. So we have all sorts of rentals, like kayak rentals, stand-up paddleboard rentals, camping gear rentals. In the winter, we just started a program last year ice skating. This isn't just students. Part of it is students, but a bigger part of it is community education and getting people out. And if you think these adventures are just here in Madison, oh, that's not the case. The outing club is super cool. They do a ton of, like, week-long trips. I know they went to New Mexico. They've gone to the Everglades Mountaineering Club, went to Spain last year. You guys provide the access to all of these great experiences. I mean, you can show up with no knowledge, no experience, and they're not going to laugh at you. Right, exactly. Yeah, I'm a great example. I had no idea how to sail a year and a half ago. Like, it's right here. Might as well try it. Right. Now I do it all the time, and I love it. With all the things you've been able to experience being the president of this club, what has filled your soul the most? This is going to be kind of a cheesy answer, but I just love the people. The experiences, the activities, are awesome, but you can't do it with PP of love. Why do I do it? It sounds like a great gig. It's great. Congratulations. Yeah. Thanks for talking to me. Thanks, Josh. UW-Madison has been around for 175 years, but the Ho-Chunk people have lived here for thousands of years, and they called this area Dejope, which means four lakes. Now, we know this for two reasons. This university has more native burial mounds than any other campus in the entire world, and this is pretty neat. Back in 2022, the oldest canoe ever found in the Great Lakes region, they pulled out of Lake Mandota. It was over 3,000 years old. Now, that's a well-made boat. We're at PBS Wisconsin. I am talking to a host of a PBS series, Angela Fitzgerald, who is a show called Wisconsin Life. It's great to be at PBS Wisconsin. Yeah. I'm excited to have you back. Thank you. You don't work in here, though, much, do you? I don't know. We do all of our students at a location. Out in the field. Yes. So you do kind of exactly what I do. So we're out there talking to people. Out there talking to people, managing the elements, the sun, all of that. Who do you talk to, and what do you want to happen? With Wisconsin Life, our whole goal is to elevate diverse stories and experiences from across our state. How many episodes of season do you do? We do, oh, six, eight, eight. I love that your producer is behind here, because so is mine. This is the help. It's the only information. Other people's concept of TV is like, oh, you have a trailer, and you have a makeup, and wardrobe. And I'm like, we have a van with some bug spray? That's as glamorous as you get. And it's great to be able to share with someone who was born and raised in the state something that they didn't even know existed here. That's what we love. We love that people are like, I had no idea. That was in my hometown. And I don't know if you have this. These are the people I travel with every shoot. Oh, this is your entourage? This is my entourage. They're with the Jamming River Main Streets bus tour, and they're going where I went. Wow. Did you have a good time, you guys? Yeah. Wow. No one said no. That's good. That's good. Thank you. Kelly, you are the producer of Wisconsin Life. Yes, I am. We're in UW, part of UW-Madison, and really takes a whole station to move the show forward. What's challenging for you? Challenging is going to a place that you haven't been, John. That's what's challenging. That's what's challenging. Is that right? The giver was here. I'm like, oh, my giver was here. That's great. What do you mean? The control room. We've got graphics. We've got lighting back there. We've got the directors, the producers, and the audio. Jamming River Main Street, 7pm PBS Wisconsin. So these are our editing suites. This is Wisconsin Life. This is Wisconsin Life. The editor's stamp on a show really creates a show, does it not? You hope so. Yeah. Now, what's all this? This is what's airing now. So, John, what we saw inside the station, we're also seeing here. We have a light board. Director's sitting over here. Director's sitting over there. So you don't ever bring this out for Wisconsin Life? We don't. Nope. We're just a couple cameras in a van with me and two videographers. And bug spray. And bug spray. Is there a snack machine on this? No. Bad boy. You've got to bring your own snacks. You do. This building behind me has been here since 1969, and since that time it has gained quite the reputation. For being the most confusing building on the UW campus, especially for incoming freshmen. So, there are myths that this building was built upside down, backwards, and as a maze. I'm really not sure the architect, he built it in the brutalist fashion. AKA ugly. The real blackie concrete, small window, straight lines. But guess what? Good news. In 2029, it is slated to be replaced. So, if you have an interest in getting lost in the humanities building for old time's sake, I don't know, do it before 2029. But I sure hope they don't do anything with these beautiful flowers. We look so good. We are at the dairy plant. We're at the magic happen. Yeah. This is one of the oldest schools that do research in dairy in the entire country. So, this chemist, Stephen Babcock, he developed a test to measure the amount of fat in milk. Because before that, it was being sold just purely by volume. You didn't know how much milk fat was in it. So, Babcock was really important. Here, we're at the School of Agriculture. Right. And in the 20th century, they developed a program to put the stock to Ricketts, the softening of the bone, and they had to make sure that there was vitamin D in the milk to strengthen the bone. What's happening today? There's about $8 million that is being used here at River Falls and at Flatfield, just in dairy research. Research. Because $45 billion is the Wisconsin dairy industry. Yeah. I love that on this campus, they have a lovely herd. Real cows. 84 cows on the campus of UW. So, they use the milk to make the cheese, to make the ice cream. This is the Babcock dairy plant. This is called the Birds Eye View. We're kind of like the bosses looking over ours. Right. Yeah. Do you know what they're making? No. There's a lot of ice cream. And then, a swirl of cod. Look, it's full. Wow. This is so cool. Can you hand us one of those at two spoons, please? Well, finally. At the dairy store. Finally, this is John's first time here. I have been here many times. You have? Since they opened up the dairy store in 1951. How many flavors of ice cream do you think? 40. Over 270. Oh boy. He's gone there. Now it's all over. They might as well have brought my kids. What is your point? Have you not met before? Well, did the last few days here make you want to be a student again? No. Or maybe a legislator? No, neither. You know what it may be you want to do? What? It may be you want to visit this place again. That's a good. Four. Three. Well, John, in this episode, you visited one of my favorite places on campus. Okay. Babcock ice cream. Oh. And my other favorite place on campus right here, the studios at Viola's Hall. We're going to talk a little bit about that in just a minute, but first I need to let you know, this is a challenge break. When you make a gift during this break, it'll be matched dollar for dollar by a fund from contributions by current members who want to encourage your support by matching your gift dollar for dollar. The first $2,000 pledge during this break, John, will be matched. Hey, we have a goal, don't we? We do it. We always have a goal. We would like to get 30 pledges during this break. I think we can do that. Come on, call. Come on, call. Exactly. Let's go. And while you walk to the phone, tell us about that. Visit the Babcock. You're a very creative ice cream eater. You eat the bottom of the cone up. I can ice cream anyway, and I tell you, the fact that they were like, just whatever you want. I'm like, okay. Can I have a couple? And they were like, whatever you want. So it's good ice cream. It's good ice cream. It's good ice cream. So if you want to, when you call and make your pledge, if you want a pledge for certain flavor of Babcock ice cream, come on. Well, let's do that. But the important thing is during this challenge break that you call and make a gift to PBS Wisconsin right now. Won't you do that? This is a challenge break. Thank you, Malcolm. My name's Eric Griling. I'm the director of Friends of PBS Wisconsin. It's a great time to call because just like Malcolm told you, our current members are challenging you to become a member. If you've been watching Main Streets for a long time, give us a call. Your dollar will go twice as far. And if you pledge $10 a month, we'd like to also say thank you to you with this book. 1,000 places to see in the United States and Canada before you die. That's at $10 a month as a sustainer. At $12 a month as a sustainer, we'd like to say thank you to you with John McGivren's Main Streets mug, as well as the special hit the road blend of coffee made just for John McGivren's Main Streets by Luna Coffee up in DePierre as featured on John McGivren's Main Streets. At $20 a month, we could say thank you to you with the book, the coffee, and the mug altogether. It's a great way for us to thank you. It's a great time to call because it is a challenge break. And we've got five calls already, so keep those calls coming. 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We're on the road, and you're always on the road. But when you came to Madison, you weren't always on the road. You were on the hall, because you were right down the hall from where we are now in our other studio. In the other studio, and you're visiting with Angela Fitzgerald. Yes. Angela, it was so great to talk to somebody and to interview somebody who does exactly what I do for a living. So we're always out in the field. We were in the studio, which is strange to us, and the fact that we could share stories on the road, and that her show was so great. She does such a great job. It really was my favorite thing in the episode. We were both kind of nervous. She was like, what are you going to ask? I'm like, I'm going to tell you. She was so great. No one could tell you were nervous, but you really did seem to hit it off. 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We're going to West Bend. We're going to West Alice. And we're going to Spooner, Wisconsin. Spooner, all right. Have you been? I have been through Spooner. You have. I have no idea. So I'm excited. Yeah. Great. Well, more to look forward to. Sure. Now, I do want to ask you a question because I saw the episode where you visited the folks from Looner Coffee. They were great. Great people. We've got this relationship now developed with folks from Looner Coffee. Tell us a little bit of how that developed. It was great because we walked in there and he says, I want you to make a blend. And I want you to finalize what we're going to put out as your coffee. And I'm like, just give me a taste of a couple of these. He says, no, no, no. We're going to start from the very beginning. So we started with a half a dozen beans and he said, what do you like? Do you want it rich? Do you want it really strong? So we went through the process of creating a blend. And that's the one that we came up with. And it's... Here it is. Have you had a taste? I have had this coffee. Hit the road blend. Of course, you want to sit in your easy chair watching on Main Streets while you're drinking your coffee. But when you make that pledge, it will be doubled. It's 36. I think we can get to 50 easy this break, John. Oh, Lord, here we go. Precious on. We're going to raise that goal. We're looking for 50 callers. When you do make your call, your pledge will be matched dollar for dollar. So this is a great time to call. With a little bit more about how we say thank you, let's go over to Eric. I'm not surprised. We've met our goal and we're still going around the corner with John McGiver and has been one of our most popular programs on PBS Wisconsin. So has John McGiver and Main Streets. We've got a lot of great ways to say thank you to you when you call in and show your support, show your appreciation for this program, for Wisconsin programs, for programs that feature Wisconsin and speak to you. 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And in a 27-minute show, you don't just shoot 27 minutes of video. There's a lot more that goes into it. How much shooting do you do for every show? I believe we bring 14 hours back to the editors. 14 hours of shooting. So that's our schedule is four and a half days in the field. And the cameraman and the producer, our executive producer, Lois Maurer, go out the first day. I come in for two and a half days. Emmy Fink, who's the co-host, comes the evening of the third day, and on the fourth day we shoot our stuff together. So it's really kind of four and a half days. It takes to create 27-28 minutes of television. It's amazing. It's the magic of television, but it's not magic. It's hard work. It's creative people. It's dedicated people. And it's viewers like you that make it possible with your membership gift. We've got 51 calls so far. Thank you so much. If you haven't called, there's still time to call this break. 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You could show your great support for this program and let us say thank you to you with the book, the coffee and the mug altogether. It's easy, 1-800-236-3636. Just a few minutes left in this break. And it is also your last chance to show your support for this program, for Main Streets, for John McGivron. Make him leave here happy. We don't want him crying, walking off set. Show your support for this program and all of the great Wisconsin stories that we show here on PBS Wisconsin. By showing your support, you also get a chance to get your donation doubled. So your donation goes twice as far. Do it now. Just a few minutes left. 1-800-236-3636. Well, you're always in the scene when you're watching Main Street. We've shown you a little bit of behind the scenes, and I guess right now we're on the side of the scenes, John. We have about 30 seconds to go. So what do you want people to remember most about Main Street? It's all positive all the time. We love to go in and have people talk about what they're most proud of, and that's their community. It's where they live, where they work, where they play, and we love the fact that we're able to be facilitators of that message. It's great. Thank you for that, and thank you for your pledge. Let's go back and watch the rest. Actually, can I get your autograph? Yeah, sure, sure. It's all Greek to me. Plastic. He's like... I'm nervous. I'm not used to that, so that was... Right, right, wait a minute. This is my dad. My dad? How are you? Did you see your face? It wasn't that good. Now you have to be a bottom sucker at the rest of your time. Let me cut. Thanks to our underwriters. Looking to bring life to your Wisconsin Dells getaway? Bring your family. Bring your friends. Bring an extra suit and bring on the water parks. Summer in Wisconsin Dells. Bring it on. Wisconsin Dells. The water park capital blue and orange. Wistells.com. 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Doctor and Anna! film their final season. It was very strange for it to be finishing. Farewell, Doc Martin. Premiers, next, only on PBS Wisconsin. I think when you learn our craft from a young age it's something special if you learn. Absolutely, unconditionally love my job. It's an honor and a privilege to be a part of this. Tonight, only on PBS Wisconsin. Back at Ken and Jay's, the weeds are under control, the pumpkins are thriving, and we talked more about their journey as farmers. I know on my farm I'm so grateful to have my husband there to help me and work side by side with me. What is that like for you too? You always get along, I imagine. We do. Oh, good. I'll let you speak. Oh, I guess I don't even think about it. We are a team, definitely. We both have our things that were the best at, I guess. Ken is really good at planning, I'm good at implementing, he's good at directing, I'm good at following. It is definitely a team effort. I think we need to plant. Well, let's just see. We're always learning stuff. I think that's part of the fun too, and the interest. It's always something different. This way, this way. We're very, very good work partners, and we work well together, and it's been complementary. I'm sure as you know, you couldn't do it alone. No. You have to have a partner of this. It's a lot. We're just very fortunate. It's easy for us. You've started the transplants then inside. You brought them out here to plant them, laid them all down, and now you just kick back with a martini and just wait. Oh, well, this year, so far, we've had dreams. So far, we've had drought. So, we've had to irrigate. And usually, we look at irrigation as just something to bridge us over to the inevitable rains, but they haven't happened. So, we have irrigated three times, and we're just using a big 300-gallon tank, drag it along, let gravity water them. Also, surprisingly, pumpkins are the plant itself. It's really built to collect moisture. Really? In the right morning, there's a lot of dew. They have these great big leaves, and you notice it all funnels into the central, the petiole that takes it down to the stem, so that dew will collect on the leaf, flow down to right to the center of the plant. So, it will gather some moisture on its own. Nature is amazing. Join us on an adventure across the soul of Wisconsin, with Wisconsin Life. We'll explore great wonders outdoors and meet the people that define the novelty of our state. The Wisconsin idea, when I first heard that, I was so inspired. From the horses in Eau Claire to dogs flying in the air, Wisconsin Life covers it all. You kind of get the best of both worlds. Watch more Wisconsin Life at pbswisconsin.org slash W-I Life. PBS Wisconsin, anywhere, on air, online, on the app, and online TV streaming services. That's PBS Wisconsin, anywhere. You are watching PBS Wisconsin. We have all the flowers gone. Long time past year. A special celebration of American pothies. Michael, go to the Polish shop. There's a meeting here tonight. There's a meeting here tonight. I know you're by your friendly face. There's a meeting here tonight. Friday night. Only on PBS Wisconsin. I was a highway man. Along the coach roads I did ride. This is a great tour. I love working with these guys. Feelin' good was easy road wind. But it saved the blue. This may be the best song you ever heard in the whole life. Friday night. Only on PBS Wisconsin. In winter, the north coast of Cornwall is a pretty inhospitable place, battered by wind and rain coming in off the Atlantic. The villages and towns that are so popular with tourists in the summer are quiet, waiting for the weather to turn. But every other year, in one village, a transformation takes place. The poth changes its name. The fudge shop becomes a chemist. The fish market's name is changed. A restaurant returns to what it once was, a school. One large holiday cottage becomes a police station. This place is Port Isaac, but it becomes the world-renowned village of Paul Wen. And here, with his family, lives a certain doctor. Dr. Martin Ellingham. I'm Caroline Kance, and I play Louisa Ellingham, who's married to the dog. Port Wen's been our home for the past 18 years. So much has happened here for all of us, as you can see. But there's also a lot about the show that you might not know. I want to let you in on some of our secrets and take you behind the scenes to meet the cast and crew, so you can see just how we make Dr. Martin. It's February 2022, and the first day of the shoot. We're back on the farm, which is our production base. The finishing touches are being made to sets, costumes, and even me. It's been great to be back. It's just like we've never been away. Yeah, it's been three years. But I also have mixed feelings, as this tenth series, which includes a Christmas special, will be our last. Now that it's sort of about to be complete, I can approach it as a whole and allow myself some pride in it, which I don't know why I haven't before, but I've enjoyed its success and the way it's caught on in the different countries and the feedback we've had has been really gratifying. The word pride has only just popped into my brain, so... Let's go back 18 years to 2004 to the very beginning of our story. You've got a problem. But the show's not only about us. It has to work on four or five different levels simultaneously. So you've got medical drama. People are dying. Martin has to get there before they die. Mrs. Tischoff! I love you, darling! Wonderful! Don't move! So you've got situations, comedy, you know, with Bert and Hal and all those characters. Bartman! That's an endearing local term for Barney, right? Well, Daphne de Morier paints Bartman Moore as a Gothic symbol of murder and madness. Or granite skies and holding winds. He'll be going that many at that one, a minute boy! But Daphne, not that one! But at the real heart of it, on the top layer, is this really fantastic love story between Martin and Louisa. She wasn't really a huge part of this person. We didn't think she was going to be a big love interest, particularly. We just put a possible love interest in there. Had no idea it was going to become what it became. There was sort of an instant attraction aversion thing going on, wasn't there? Yes. It was sort of, but very interested. They were both very interested in one another. Yes, yes, that's a good way of putting it. Yeah, they sort of piqued each other's curiosity. What? Nothing. No, say it. I'm assuming you have a regular dental hygiene routine. Martin? Are you being serious? Well, you know, Louisa's bad breath was diagnosed, and then we sort of walked away from that. We decided her breath was definitely sorted out. Couldn't keep going on about her appalling breath. What do you put up with it? Probably not. I said no talking. That's rubbish anyway. Rubbish, things people say. Martin? They're so beautiful. They're so very beautiful, do you know that? Okay. If that's what you're going to say, I don't mind you talking. Two people who unexpectedly have found each other, they're both very different, but I think the reason the show works is that you really believe they love each other. Right, now they have to live together, and that's what we'll explore now. Can we just read to get a dog? Do we still have to get a dog? Is that relevant? I don't know. That's when we thought we'd won its course when we got them together and they got married, and then we found all sorts of ways to keep it fresh. And they kind of realized that they couldn't be together because they just didn't, they just weren't made up in that way. And it was really, really sad, but they sort of made this decision to be apart and yet still sort of share a child. I was thinking straight, she was pregnant. I need a break from you, Martin. What do you mean? I'm not happy. I'm not making you happy, am I? I'm happy. Why does everybody have to be happy all the time? And it seemed that once they decided to accept each other's differences, that they could probably go on. Go to your basket. Mary, go to your cop. James, that's no way to speak to your little sister. She's not a dog. Yeah, we've got two children and a dog. They definitely are the driving force of the show. No, I know you told me not to. Boy, you're present. I may be married to Martin in the series, but in real life, he's married to the show's producer, Philippa. I was developing things, and then we had the office together, and we thought, well, why don't we just work together? And I think if we had met differently, socially, and then decided to have a company together, it might not have worked so well. But because we already had a working relationship, we could park it and just... And we do different jobs. I can't act. We know that. Twenty years ago, I wrote and produced a film called Saving Grace and met Martin. Any idea who the father is? I think I know. Now I look to the test slides, some of the chromosomes had little kilts on. Very funny. I do have some bad news, though. What? There's a slight risk of ginger hair. They do these test screenings, and the character that came out, you know, who was the most popular was the doctor. Look, don't mention the baby yet, okay? I just want to tell him when the tone is right. What, baby? I'm sweetie. Philippa and Martin were very friendly with... Nick Elliott. Nick Elliott, who ran ITV at that point. The drama. Yeah. And he said, sure, I love it, but, you know, love everything about it, keep everything the same, but we want a different character. So, they set about inventing a different doctor. It just sort of came out of trying to sort of ring... ring out of Dominic Mengella, the first writer. I said, what car does he drive, and he said an MG? I said, no. And then just struck with the thing of being wrong at every point. It's wrong to wear a suit in the sea. He's wrong to drive a car that big and call mum. And I do remember Nick Elliott calling me after he saw the first rushes, the first week, and he said, I think he's too grumpy. You get off the telephone and find the stop, and you either get back to Delevo, or whatever that may be, and don't come back, or go and find a mop and work out how to use it. Does it, Nick, hold your nerve? Yeah. Okay. The set, every single doorway, is designed to end there, and there wasn't that slanty thing in the hallway going up to the kitchen. I can hit that angle at any speed. And it's all been sort of designed so that I'm wrong. Then they needed an expert for the medical stories. Dominic Mengella approached me. So we took an exercise book on a barrow, and we wandered down to Kensington Park Road to Cafe Rouge, and we sat down one lunchtime, and we wrote six pages of funny stories that had real things that had happened to me. And the one that springs to my most of all was the story of the man who had grown little breasts. Wow. And this was a real event that had happened in my medical practice, where a man had been exposed to his wife's Eastergens. Eastergens is a female hormone. It used to excess its possible that during intercourse, some may have transferred, and... Dominic thought this was marvelous, and he said, have you got any more stories? And so they rolled out the more you think about them, the more odd stories would come out, and that was the foundation of that first series. He's fantastic. Like reams of ideas. And we'll go, yeah, that's great. That won't work, that's great. And then we start integrating his ideas with the writers' ideas. The story always demands the doctors doing something other than sitting at a desk with their prescription pad. Our gifted makeup designer, Alice, has the daunting task of making realistic prosthetics for Martin's handiwork. I made a hand by taking a life cast of the actress's hand and made a mold, made the hand from silicon, painted it, put, I put one layer in and then build it up so that you can get the veins underneath the skin. I put a hole through the finger and stuck this end. A really tiny tube onto the nail for the blood to be able to come out. Ready? Ooh! Don't be used to it, and it worked very well. So that I can make an oblique and ask the Moses with a large enough diameter? Good, very good. Taking out somebody's gallbladder, there was an outstanding prosthesis that was created for that. And best of all, the nurses involved and the theatre sister that was handing the instruments across, they were the genuine team from that operating theatre. And I think they probably loved doing it, and they made a really good job of it. I was very stabilized at 105. Blood pressure restored. There's a lovely story here where Louisa's father has been allowed out of prison and turns up unexpectedly. I don't know. What are you doing here? But this man arrives with motor neuron disease, which everyone knows, has an inevitably declining prognosis up with, sadly, resulting in the death of the patient. And so he's come to say goodbye to the family. Did you hand it right? Fine. But this man has some sensory symptoms. He's got some numbness, some tingling. You say you have tingling and numbness in your hands and feet, or I wouldn't expect to find that with motor neuron disease. Doc Martin spots this, and he does a nerve biopsy. He's got a serial nerve biopsy. It takes a little pinch of a nerve using anesthetic from down by the ankle, and it gets sent off to the lab, and we get the new diagnosis, chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy. Another reason to send Martin a voice file for how to say it. According to the biopsy, there's intense inflammation of the endo-neurium, which is causing demyelination. It's a CIDB, chronic inflammatory demyelinating polynesia. Huh? What I really struggled with bird shock, courier retinopathy, which is what Anne Reed had. Not only do you have archicinilis, you also have bird shock, courier retinopathy. Is that good or bad? And I couldn't get it out on the day and she laughed at me, which is unprofessional of her. But then, but now I can say it at the drop of a hat. And how he does it, I don't know, because Martin is just, doesn't even hesitate on them. And actually, quite charmingly, we had a letter from the bird shock, courier retinopathy society saying, thank you for shining a light on our disease. Nobody's heard of us all can pronounce us. Do people come up to Martin and ask him for medical advice? He gives it without even being asked. Someone's been given antibiotics. What have you been given? You're not a doctor. We haven't heard your father yet. Yeah, we have. Kevin Doyle. Who? What was wrong with him? No, it was my mum. She had something in them. It was something else. I came for a bath. But I healed it. Oh, yeah. That's amazing. Don't you get all that. Don't you worry. You see, we remember it all, really. We were in Paris. And there was a whole load of middle-aged women who went past on these huge segues in the centre of Paris. And we just heard this scream. And she went flying into a wall. Just really hurt herself, covered in blood. And Martin just turned into an action man. But flying over the road. What are you doing? Ben Downton, she was sort of semi-conscious, and she just looked up and went, it's Doc Martin. Yep, the heart's got her rhythm. This is the last-ever Doc Martin read-through. Traditionally held in Port Isaacs Village Hall. Down from there. Dr. Elena. Here you are. But getting the scripts to this stage can take two years of work. On Doc Martin, we kind of bounced ideas backwards and forwards for stories, for the series, for the characters. I'll put an idea in for an episode or an idea for a medical story. I wouldn't necessarily write it. I might go to another writer, but it's quite a collaborative process. It's very, very hard-finding writers who can write comedy, not that we're full-on comedy, but who can write with wit. There's just not many writers who can do that. No other show written like this on British television, we take an awful long time to write it. And I think that shows in the end product doing it. Because the scripts are good, and that's gold dust in this business. You know, it's easy to play somebody who's got such an overriding impulse, which is simply love of the Doctor. I could just eat him with a spoon. What's happened to your face? My face. Nothing. Oh, unless you mean when you get sick. I thought I'd try different shades. Right. She genuinely believes that they were meant to be together and wonder they will. It says Martin on it. Yes. Martin. Thank you. It was a pleasure. We came up with the idea that Mrs. Tishow, who's obviously a pharmacist, was stealing her own medication, which made her go a little bit loopy in her already predisposition towards Martin, got out of hand. So, basically, there's a drugged-up lunatic on the run with your baby. We wanted for Martin to finally be able to declare to Louisa that he loved her. And Martin, does he speak speech at the end to Louisa? But it was a really great speech. It was a really great speech. It brilliantly delivered and brilliantly written. And I do hate Port Webb. I hate the people, the pinched faces and their ridiculous accents, and their unerring knack of catching any virus that comes within a five-mile radius. They spread contagion like a bushfire. But it's where I want to be. Because you're here. Because of you. Because if I'm with you, nothing else matters. What I'm trying to say is... I love you. I love you too. Give me one last chance. Please. That poor deranged woman will probably throw herself out of the window now as an expression of her love. And thanks to great scripts, I have the privilege to work with some fabulous actors. I think she's coming down. I said to my husband, they've asked me so much about her. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I said to my husband, they've asked me to be in this, let's just have a look at one of them. We put one of them on, and we both finished, and we both looked at each other, and they said, it's lovely, isn't it? It's so charming. And he said, let's have another one on. And we sat and we watched three all in a row, and he said, well, I think it'd be terribly silly not to do this. Kenneth Clannen plays Louise's dad, and his name is Terry. Terry Glassen. Glassen? I don't believe that name at all, do you? Glassen. Okay, fine. There we are. Deal with it. We've had Caroline Quentin as a vet. You still need a license, so pack it up. Pig. What? Give me the pig. Claire Bloom as Martin's mother. You would see me homeless, destitute, cast out in the streets. Of course not. Thank you. I wouldn't see you. I'd have no further contact with you at all. Ben Miller has been in three series. Oh, Ben Miller, yeah. Yeah, we've had great guests. They want bears, and they live with themselves. How are they living with themselves? Vincent Franklin is in this last series, and has been in the show from the start. Listen. I baffed you. Coming here. And I get him in an interview because I think he'd be great for this job, or at least we're desperate for GPs, and he's better than nobody, because he is a bit of a weirdo. I've told you. Go away. Right. And then, of course, there's Sigourney Weaver. Yeah. Well, Sigourney and I have known each other for 40 years, plus, and we're very, very close friends. And Celina could Sigourney be in its eyes and laughed, walked away, and then Martin rang and said, Sigourney, do you think she really meant it? I said, yeah, of course. What is this? Both of you? Yes, they do. You both want each other. You can make it work. So we wrote a part, and then she wanted to come back and do it again, and then she was just delightful. Just go away, man. We particularly want to have a physical fight, because we thought that'd be very funny. He thinks you're nuts as well. You know that, right? No. That's a lie. No, we have a very special relationship. The doctor and I hear you. No! Take that back. It's the truth. It's not the truth. Do you wear that? No. Let go of me. Come on, Sigourney! It was great. I mean, I really had to go with her. I really took a slugger tone. Because she's trying to get the doctor, I think. It's not to like. Lots. Then there are other four legged stars. Stay there. Taffy, stay there. They need a bit of direction from Martin. I like animals, so it's always fun to put lots of animals in. Of course, we've got Buddy. I mean, unfortunately, I had the episode where Martin almost put Buddy down as well, so I think to get all those sort of things. Come through. This way? It was a Rubber Dog last series. Rubber Dogger. And I did operate on him. That was quite... It was seen as... And they made the thing so beautifully. And I could actually literally cut the little dog's tummy open and it would open and it would bleed slightly. It was such an amazing piece of poor Sonya, Dodger's owner. When she came in and she saw the little thing, she started crying. And it was very, very tense. I mean, Dodger was so good in that whole story. This is Taffy. He is the new dog that's taken over from the very experienced old guy here, Dodger, who's retired. They're all rescue dogs, so here they are. In there, Winnie Bay go. You come to see your friend. We'll start your face. We are fine, thank you. Aww. It just struck me as funny that some of you didn't like dogs. If they really liked him, you know, they'll follow him regardless of his loathing for them. They're all boy. Anybody who seems to come to Port Isaac to watch the filming brings their dog with them. If I want to find Marcin on a busy day, I'll just follow the dogs. As I know, at the end of all these leads, he's going to be there and he always is. You can't stop filming. We've lost him for a half an hour, while he says hello to all the dogs. Marcin certainly charms the dog owners. Thank you very much, thank you very much. But what does he actually like to work with? Quite unbearable at times, but... What's he actually like to work with? Quite unbearable at times, she says laughing. Well, that's Marcin Clunes and that's Doc Martin. Hi, I'm Malcolm Brett, we're in the studios of PBS Wisconsin. With a behind the scenes look at one of the most beloved shows on public television, Doc Martin. Now, in its tenth season, produced over 20 years. It's been part of the landscape for as long as we can remember. And this show is just so much fun. It's like going to a family reunion and seeing people in a long period of time when they're not quite on top of their game. It's great to get these behind the scenes look, but mostly because we get to enjoy the Doc Martin phenomenon just a little bit more. This is the very last season of Doc Martin, Season 10. We will be carrying these shows right up through the end, April 18th, the final airing. We know how much you love the show. We hope that you'll show how much you love the show by becoming a member here at PBS Wisconsin. We hope you'll enjoy your membership gifts to allow us to go out and buy these episodes and put them on the air so we can all enjoy them. So call us at 1-800-236-3636 and help pay for Doc Martin. Hi, I'm Eric Grilling. I'm the Director of Friends of PBS Wisconsin. What a special series this has been. 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It's an amazing collaboration and an amazing mix of incredible medical mysteries, although apparently their own mysteries to Doc because he can diagnose anything in about five seconds. But these are life and death situations. There are marriages. There are births. There are additional dogs. There are dogs that leave. And there's lots of great pratfalls in comedy. It's a great combination. And that's what makes it so absorbing. That's why we come to Love Doc and the entire crew of Port When. One of the things I love about this show is it shows us how Port Isaac is transformed into Port When and how we are transformed into the audience for this great show. How about transforming into the sponsor of this great show by calling us now and becoming a member of PBS Wisconsin. Do it by calling the number on your screen or going online. Do it right now, please. And please do it right now because we want to get right back to Doc Martin. We don't want to keep you from the program any longer. But we do want to say your call is so important. Your support is so important. Let us say thank you to you. If you pledge $15 a month, we'd like to say thank you with this mug and with this TV set, a T set. For $20 a month, we'd like to say thank you to you with Series 910, $40 a month. The whole series. Give us a call at 1-800-236-3636. The surgery always draws a crowd. Having all these people around can cause problems. This is a public highway and we can't close it. So every five minutes, 20 people have to walk through. And the more it happens, the more cross and grumpy I get with him. And it's not his fault when we're in the village working. You'll find people from all over the world come to see us. It's like a mecca. Big Americans, Australians. Big Americans, that's right. They're all shaking. All shaking. Jewellers have come all the way from Australia. But then it's funny because in Sonos, you get people who say, we've come from Somerset and you really think, well, they've come from Texas, mate. Priscilla and Gary, and we're from Virginia Beach, Virginia. And they've found themselves at the sort of end of Cornwall in this tiny little village. And they're just so happy to be here. But it's so cool. This is all real. Like, this is a real place. Hi, I'm Gloria Geyer. I'm Cincinnati, Ohio. And about six years ago, I started a club called the Burt Large Lovers Group. But now we're up to almost 5,000 members. And every Thursday night, we have a dinner, which Burt attends. And every Sunday afternoon, we have tea party. I just want to show you this book because inside it, it's got all these people in America who have got pictures of me, and they place them in all sorts of places, like in gardens, sausages there. I feel like it was Burt. Here's a type of friend everybody would want. If you said Burt, I want you to meet me at 3 a.m. on the plait, bring dynamite and candy. He'd show. Burt's not the only one with his own fan club. There's a rival club appropriately named the Cloonatics. I watched the show. You can wait. Sit down. Sorry, Dan. I had never been abroad until 2018. I took a step, you know, that I probably would have never done. Had it not been for Doc Martin, Martin Clunes. In all honesty, I'm sure it might include immigrants who are married to America and making the president. He's a lovely man. Two per cent of people come to Cornwall just because of Doc Martin. That's been worth weighing excess of £100 million. But another 7 per cent say that it's actually a great influence on them coming. So you can see that over a decade this has really been worth hundreds of millions of pounds to the economy of Cornwall. People come from across the globe to Port Isaac, as the UK series is now shown in hundreds of countries. But some even make their own. And often, shot for shot, just copy ours. You've got a problem. Who's there for him? No, I don't! What's your problem? Where are you? Back in Port Isaac, Ian makes the most of the many visitors. Ian charges for photographs and collects an awful lot of money for local charities and the lifeboat. He's got a little bucket there. Oh, can we take your photograph? Well, you can, but I would like something put in there and paper would be preferable. Since the lady has just given us £20 for the lifeboats, I think that's fantastic. Absolutely. Thank you very much. Like all the fans, there's one person in particular who doesn't want the series to end. Die! Play! Mrs. Tischl is desortable machines. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. We'll also have a storyboard that is done, which is each shop that we do. Caroline does all this kind of paperwork so we know where the shot is so we can find things. But most importantly, everybody out there is worrying about the lighting, worrying about the sound, worrying about this and that and the other. She's my second pair of eyes. And somewhere in here, in this extraordinary brain, she's trying to keep track of it. In my opinion, we have some of the funniest and most creative actors working today. I mean, if you've got Selena, Mrs. Tischl, if you've got John Marquez, or you know... Martin Klunz? Oh, he's here now. And they're always coming up with stuff. That's not great. Call an ambulance. Martin's selling the fact we're on the cliff edge here. Just watch. So there's no cliff here. But look, you kind of feel there is because he's selling it. And you know, that's when you're really grateful to the cast. And if you think acting is glamorous, if you think, oh, I'll be on the next time. I get pampered, there's also these... No, you try spending a whole day with a plastic tube up your nose. Action! Another problem is that when we shot Martin standing there, the sun was out and we shot this going, the sun had gone in. And we'll be able to cut that car out and place it within that sunny shuttle of Martin and little beast, a seamless car going over a cliff on a sunny afternoon in Cornwall, as opposed to a cloudy one that we've ended up with. Once Nick and Nigel have finished the edit, it's over to Colin, our composer. When the car is hanging over the cliff and they're inside and trying to rescue the lady to get her out, you pointed out quite rightly that I put a psycho thing in there. It was quite psycho. It was because you can imagine that I'm trying to think, how far do you push that drama? On the count of ten. Ten? Right. No, five will be better. It's much quicker. Actually, now I think about it. We could just do... We'll just do it now, ready? OK. Go! I know where we're going with this. And if I come off peace, which I sometimes do, I think I'll try something. Phillip will say, no, come off. It's pure, but that's all good. A couple of moments I did, where I was really pushing too hard for a comedy joke, and I still cringe when I think about them. So if an actor comes in and starts doing a big comedy performance, I'll shut them down and just explain that, you know, watch Martin. He can be incredibly funny, but always you feel like he's the character. I think the thing about Dr Martin is he's terrible at small, and he's fantastic at the big talk, that when you're in real trouble and you ring him because you are about to drown, he will drop everything and come. And we all need friends like that, don't we? But what is, I think, a real testament to this show is that most of this crew I've worked with before, and I don't mean last time I was here, but the time before that and the time before that, because if you're happy, if you're prepared to spend six months of your life here, surrounded by this monstrosity of a place, you sort of become a little unique. It's not like some hideous showbiz family nightmare where we're sort of going to the ivy. It's like it's here in the angry anchovy for a good pizza and a good bit of shouting. Yeah, Wednesday night quiz night. It's great because, you know, we always win. How was it this village became the right home for Doc Martin? Well, Porteis are we inherited because of saving grace, but there was a time when we went around Cornwall looking for a new village. Came back to Porteis, it's just perfect because it's the right size. You get that amazing view in the harbour. It has fantastic views, fantastic light, brilliant cliffs and some fantastic architecture. When we write the script, I think, well, yeah, it's fine, it's good. And then you see the actors do it, ache, they're brilliant, so it always brings the script to life. And then you see the backdrop. Wow! So we're very grateful to this backdrop. But the village hasn't always been happy to be turned into a film set. There was a couple of series, it was a bit sticky, but then I think once I got realised it was a good setup, it was kind of a two-way street. There's always a small contingent and there always will be wherever you go filming. You won't want film crews there. So Martin and Sandy and one of two said, well, tell me what you do. If the series makes money, Porteis, it makes money. Buffalo set up a trust, they backdaced it as well, they didn't have to do that. They showed willing and understanding as well. They stipulated when we got it, that it should be particularly for the old and the young of the village. They'll always be a fund in Porteisuk to use for the children for whatever they want to do. The show's unique look is down to the skill and artistry of our production designers. Well, we're blessed with Anthony and Jane, because we just know they are going to take care of every detail. I do tease them that there is a colour called Mouseback that just tends to pop up on everything. Mouseback is... Well, we had to locate our key characters' houses, or in the case of the surgeries, where we looked at various places, and we settled on the house we've now used, which is beautiful and has that view across the harbour. They rented it initially off a lovely couple, and we did change their lives. They had to sell because the amount of people looking in the windows, and I did feel guilty for that because I did cause that. But of course, it's very small inside, as most of the cottage's are in the village. So we decided to build a couple of the rooms, and then over the years, and over the series, we've increased it until we've built actually the whole house now upstairs, downstairs, including the roof, for all the Christmas special. All right, Leonard. We always have to work with the village and try and let their normal life and work flow as much as possible. So there's many places, particularly the chemists, which in Fort Isaac is the fudge shop. So we have to dress it very quickly often, and then redress it and strike it, so it's always back as fudge shop for the weekends. Because I know we have changed the village. I do know that, and I do understand that that's not always a great thing. But it won't go on forever, I don't suppose, that it'll be that busy, but I think it's been a good thing. I think it's been a good thing. Having local examples of people that have started as a runner, and worked through to be, you know, juniors in a department, and worked their way through is really, really exciting for those people. Yeah, my daughter did a couple of years' work experience with Dot Martin. We're rolling, quiet please! And now she's a runner in this series, so yeah, very happy. Certainly it's interesting, as they know we're going, real feelings come out, and the warmth and the people are being so generous to us, and so appreciative of what we've done for the village. Now that we're going, they can say it. So we leave, the village will miss us, and I think we'll miss the village. Particularly the co-op. Just a very good shot. For the finale of episode three in this series, there are plans for Martin to fall into a deep hole. So it's quite a complicated layered operation with stunts, special effects, us, actors, the hulk hoodle. If he's super happy, and he feels safe, and he looks confident, and then multiple of them, it's not a big fault. It's just a matter of landing safely. Shall we look at one? Let's do it. You've got to take that step as if you were just walking normally and selling that, even though you know, in the back of your mind, you're going to be falling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you were to run, you'd go in. He won't be running. He'll be walking with intent. I know, but that's what I'm saying. He won't be running. He won't be running. Because I know what mine's like. Jamie, how long does it take to reset it each time? I reckon 30 minutes. Oh, wow. The guys will have to replace the boxes if they get flattened, and then we have to redress the top hauling with the leaves, and we call three men in the woods collecting bags of leaves, so we're ready to go. Man, if we get this done, we go down the fence and have a swim. And then we can do the hide while you're swimming. We'll carry on working. Together. And then this is the net. This is the net. We do lose one. Two, one. That's great. Yeah, it's really good. Yeah, yeah. And that's just picking up. Now you're onto another rig. Right. So, on action, it literally takes a lot. Yeah, it just literally takes a lot. Stuart. He's got a knife. Arbons! Oh, hang on. Let's have. Whoosh! I'm less concerned about hurting myself so that it's making it look right. Do you know what I mean? Well, I suppose it's not like a disposable kind of stunt. We only get one go. I can try and fall in the hole better. But it'd be a big set up. You can do another take while I'm in the ambulance. So he had some lovely weapon for the last few days, but yesterday it started to get pretty dull, and so it's very hard for the focus brothers to keep things sharp. But Luke's doing a fine job. It's been a good week, though. We've got some great stuff. And yeah, it should. This sequence should just top it all off. It's a nice way to finish. Again, just as long as the weather is kind to us. Do you hurt? He's got a knife! No, I haven't. Oh, sorry, yes, I have. Whoa! Bloody hell! Oh, my God. Stop! Help! I need a knife! I think I am the least appearing regular character in the longest running TV show. And the girls, I mean, those girls that just hang out giggling all the time. I mean, what is that about? You're very perceptive. And you can see them getting on really, really well, and it's all been very well until... He says... I think he's got his chance, where it's not even exciting. Oh, and today this is Doc Martin. Remember I was telling you about him? And then suddenly he was found himself a... hell prisoner. I stupidly all was taken. Listen. Did you see that? The old dusty! Somebody feels like I never left. So it feels like so. Time traveling. Eighteen. Years. Yeah. In the last week of the shoot in each series, we all get together for a cast and crew photograph. This one is a special one. We know it'll be on last. We've had the weather as usual, the difficulty of the location of getting all the gear down. Martin being such a difficult actor and, you know, so it's such a pre-modern... He didn't hear that, so... We had the normal weather problems. And in addition to that, you have the tide. We need to set certain levels of... I've just been fired. This is my B-45. It feels very strange for it to be finishing. Particularly to be finishing, because I think my last team will be here as well. That's quite nice. It will be a sad moment. It's just what I say, isn't it? Put it on the map. Worldwide. And now we've reached the end. Thank you, guys. You're my cat, me. And I'm in Atkins. And Elliot. Scene Pete. And Rupert. And Taffy. And Willow and Betty and all the kids. Guys, that's so lovely. Little did I know when I was on the interview panel on the first scene, and I said, when we get to the end, I'd like to be in the last scene, so... This is it. Yeah, 18, 19 years. I've been in every episode. Every series, except the second one. Yeah, it's shame that it's coming to an end, because it will never happen again. This will never happen again. Sad as we are, I was thrilled to receive an award from the sound department. And this is because I would rig my own mic. Pause complete on Ian McNeese folks. Angela, Buffy, Imogen, Alice and Rose, guys. That's some pretty significant... We only live about 10 minutes down the road from each other, so I never get to see Robin again. I'm never going to speak to her again. I keep remembering it. Every 20 minutes, I sort of think. It's the final day. But, yeah, it's quite significant. So now we're just waiting for Mark and Mr. Cruz to do his Lexus work. Other cars are available. And then we'll be... I think the whole team has wrapped, the whole shoot's wrapped. It's been a really good... Luckily, with a crack team and the crew as well, we've managed to get it done, I think. And we're, suitably and rightly, ending with a shot of Martin, running butchley from his car in a manner of an action hero. Most of us aren't accepting this is that. We're waiting for Bruce and I. Just want to thank everybody for everything. I mean, a cry. I couldn't think of a better place to end our very, very last scene. And thank you all. You're fantastic. We're going to miss you. A little bit from Riverdong. I can't add to that. I know what each and every one of you does, and I really love the way each and every one of you does it. So thank you from the bottom of my heart for making this show such a joy and a pleasure and a success. Out of all! It's funny the things that you... It's just, it's emotional walking through here where they're all gone. I don't know why it makes me answer emotional. I think it's just because everything that we built, everything we started was here. It's all made of being taken away. It's really sad. It really gets me. Oh. This is it. We'll never see it again. I'm okay with that. I know, you're fine. Yeah. You cry at Britain's Got Talent though. Because it's so exciting now. It's exciting because it's like, well, you have to tear the circus down in order to move it onto the next town. But this circus has been here between the 80s. Three. It's a little melancholy, isn't it? Trying to say goodbye to Doc Martin. Well, the good news is we don't have to say goodbye yet. We enjoyed this wonderful behind the scenes visit with Doc Martin. There are more episodes to come. We'll talk about that in a minute. First, we want to talk about your support for PBS Wisconsin so that we can continue to bring you shows like Doc Martin each and every week to your home. This is a challenge break. We're asking you to make your pledge right now. The first $2,000 pledge during this break will be matched dollar for dollar by current members who want to encourage you to support PBS Wisconsin. We're looking for 25 pledges during this break. We hope you will be the first one to pick up the phone and call and get the ball rolling on this challenge break. Doc Martin, a phenomenon. Season 10, 20 years in the making. A few more episodes yet to come your way. Sad news is, when it's done and it's done, the great news is with your membership gifts, you can own copies of the show and enjoy them again and again. To tell you a little bit more about that, here's Eric. Thank you, Malcolm. I'm Eric Grilling, Director of Friends of PBS Wisconsin. That's right. There are so many great reasons to call right now to show your support for this amazing series to take advantage of the wonderful challenge by making your dollar as a new member go twice as far. And we get to say thank you in a way that will keep Doc Martin with you and part of your life. Give us a call right now at 1-800-236-3636. And we could say thank you for your gift of $15 a month with the Doc Market Martin and Buddy Mug. 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It's really hard to say goodbye to these characters. You'll be around until April 18th, and for $40 a month, you don't have to say goodbye to them. You can watch them whenever you want. They're like family, though. Al and Burton, Mrs. Tischl, Morwina. Although we do have to say goodbye, your support right now will keep programs like this coming. The people who go out and find these programs for us are really good at what they do. Show your support for Doc Martin as we say goodbye and celebrate these 10 seasons. 1-800-236-3636. My wife Penny and I have seen every episode available at Doc Martin. Surprised at how much we come to love the show. It's just a surprise. It's revelation. One of the things we do is we support PBS Wisconsin at the leadership level. We have the means to do it. We encourage you to do the same. If you're able to make a gift of $1,000 a year, do that now. You won't be sorry. 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And really the best way to go back and enjoy the beginning of the series, like I feel like I really want to do right now, is to make that gift at $40 a month and let us say thank you to you with that 26 DVD set all 10 seasons of Doc Martin. You can watch them from beginning to end. You can be like some of the people who are interviewing the show and watch it seven times. We'd also include the mug, Doc Martin and Buddy, as well as the T. At $15 a month, the mug and the T set. At $20 a month, the DVD set of series 9 and 10, but really $40 a month knowing that you have that complete set of Doc Martin, that you can keep enjoying it, no matter what happens with streaming in the future. It's a great way to make a gift, great way to show your support, great way to celebrate Doc Martin and keep it around. Give us a call, please. 1-800-236-3636. We know how much you love Doc Martin. We love Doc Martin too. I love the fact that it's such a quality program. I mean, this behind the scenes, we're learning so much about it. Two years to write the script. That's why the scripts are so good. The complex, the balance of comedy and drama and medicine. It's really something that you have come to count on from PBS Wisconsin. Show your support for this program. 1-800-236-3636 and get your donation, excuse me, doubled during this membership challenge. One of the other great benefits you get is Airwaves Program Guide. It is our online program guide for all three of our flagship stations. You can go through. There's also stories about some of the features that are coming up, as well as information from some of our staff. Right here we have Brook Day and our audience services, one of our newest members. It's great. It's one of the benefits you get with any of the levels that Eric had mentioned. Pledge now during this membership break, get a doubled 1-800-236-3636. These characters in Doc Martin, some of them are kind of wacky. Michelle mentioned a few of them. Joe Penhale, wacky character. But a program this well written, this well acted, it brings it to life, makes them part of your family, makes it so that you can't wait to see them again because they're wacky, but somehow so real. Great programming takes great talent and certainly, as Michelle said, PBS Wisconsin has the staff to go out and find those great programs. Programs like Doc Martin, that means so much to us, that become part of our lives in ways we just couldn't have anticipated. PBS Wisconsin does that for every age group and in ways that are so significant. Imagine life without Sesame Street. Imagine if there had never been a Mr. Rogers. Imagine if there had never been a news hour. PBS Wisconsin brings you programs that are so important to our lives. So important. They stay with us long past the hour or the hour and a half, or even the 30 minutes we spend with them. And one of the reasons for that is it's your public television station. You make it happen, you make it possible. This is a challenge break, we've had 19 calls so far. Your membership could get us to the 20th call. Would you call right now and do that please? Thank you Malcolm, this is a challenge break. This is the last minute of the challenge break, so please give a call right now. Use that QR code on your screen to make a gift online. Go online with your tablet, your phone, your computer, to pbswisconsin.org. If you do any of those things now, if you call and the lines are busy, our volunteers will get to you. And if you want to become a member for the first time or renew your membership to PBS Wisconsin, this is the time to do it because our current members want you to join and they want to hear from you that Doc Martin is important to you. Let us say thank you to you with a gift of $5 a month. You're eligible for Passport. We have seasons 8, 9, and 10 of Doc Martin on Passport, $15 a month, mug in the tea set. $20 a month, two DVD seasons, $40 a month, 26 DVDs, all of Doc Martin, please call. It's a challenge break. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.