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Well I guess let's start back at your beginning. So when you were a kid did you go up around here

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or where'd you grow up? Okay I grew up in Hancock Wisconsin and my parents had a dairy farm

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and we had a gravel pit right across the street and that's where we spent our summers in the

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gravel pit and swimming and fishing in the gravel pit was our our thing there. Okay so you

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fished from a young age? I did yeah. Was that just that was all you guys could do for fun and

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it was always available? I did that and then my dad would after he got the cows milked at night

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he would sometimes take me down to Hancock to one of the lakes he borrowed one of the guys bolts

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down there and we go down and pan fish a little bit and he was he fished anytime he could it wasn't

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you know more he did ice fishing almost all the time because that's the time of the year that

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farmers have that they can actually go do something besides work but so he did he spent his time

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ice fishing and so we kind of grew up with people fishing and stuff but um I'm probably the only

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one in the family that really took to it a lot more so um my one sister just now started fishing

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because of me but otherwise yeah we just did fishing most a lot a lot of times in the farm

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and what was it about fishing that your catch it or it still gets you I guess? I think it's just

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to go out there and see if you're going to catch something it's it's the unknown you never know

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what you're going to catch or how big it's going to be or are you going to be there all day and

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nothing or all day and catch a ton of them or I think it's just the unknown of what what you're

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out there for so did you get into walleye before you met your husband or was that around the same

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time um once I got married he'd walleye fished in so I started walleye fishing then I had never

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walleye fished in uh stuff I basically just sure fished or from the gravel pit and stuff before

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that and then when we got married we got our first little boat it was like a little bitty

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four hundred dollars a little flat boat and then worked our way up um till at the end at the last

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boat we had bought was a London then we went um we would go to Canada quite often and then after

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at one point we started going up to um upper minnesota instead of going into Canada and found

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that the fishing was just as good in minnesota so we basically we fished there for 11 years in

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general all of our vacations were always fishing with the kids we would rent cabins and fish or

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you know all that kind of thing but any kind of vacation we took it was pretty much always

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related to fishing um that had to be one of the things that helped get you guys together

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that you found out you had something that you had in common yeah right yeah that and um bowl hunting

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he got I had been bowl hunting by myself and then he was a hunter and his family was real um sports

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fishing and hunting and so I just kind of fit right in with all of them too well i'm

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from that point of view it's a perfect woman i don't know maybe sometimes you wish i'd stay

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at home i don't know but i mean that had to be something special that you guys could share it

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was yeah we would always i mean basically we would go fishing you know all of the all of the time

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and then hunting together so we fished and hunted because i'm sure there were probably other couples

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that you knew or other women or other men or probably like well i wish my wife would fish i

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could go fishing more i actually my brother-in-law said that all the time he said i wish i wish him i

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would do that would fish like that and stuff i'd have somebody to go with and stuff i was told

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him be careful what you wish for so how did you guys treat fishing when you were in a was a little

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competition was it friendly was it front of the boat back the boat it was always i was always in

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the back he was always in the front unfortunately he always had to run the trolley motor and he had to

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deal with the wind so that i always caught the first fish it was pretty much that way

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that's hard harder when you're in the front of the boat and have a you have to deal with all

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of the other elements that are all through then just sitting in the back and throwing your line in

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and stuff but um we would always try to see who would catch the first one who would catch the biggest

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one but that kind of type type of thing and we did a lot of catch and release so if i'm sure you

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some but a lot of it was just the enjoyment of being out there correct yeah just being something

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to do something outside um just uh nature you just can't beat it so i mean for some people like well

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fishing's what you do and it's nice out where what kind of was there any restrictions if you if

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you're going to fish with um if you're going to walleye fish um it's going to be the worst whether

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you can fish in as the best walleye bite the wind's got to be blowing the rain's got to be going

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otherwise um yeah i think can i get that i'm like i can hear that

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there you go even worse as i can hear it in my ears oh it's like my hearing aids it's like

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whoa this is really distracting i want to cut that part yeah yeah no worries okay

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this is so so repeat run that by me again like so oh wait just let me just shut this completely

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off here let me turn it down otherwise it's going to ring again

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come on let's shut off here there we go

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there now i won't do that okay if i could decide you do it the tiny bit here right

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perfect okay so funny that that that probably doesn't make sense for some people maybe that's

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why people don't catch as many walleye as they should because they think of fishing as a nice

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weather activity right yeah walleye fishing the walleye i always say my husband always said it is

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the crappier the weather the better off the fishing will be and it it seems to run that way

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they don't like a bright sunny day walleye i don't know if their eyes are more sensitive to

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the light or what it is but they like chop on top of the water they like um rain they like wind um

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that that is when you're walleye fishing that's when you'll catch more fish and that's gotta be

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why some people don't even bother trying right could be could be yeah you go out and you try

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you always if you want to go out on a nice sunny day and and you're gonna walleye fish you're not

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probably going to be as successful so what is it about walleye that made it worth it for you versus

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pan fish or something else that was just my husband's thing he just walleye fished and so we

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basically just walleye fished all the time we very seldom ever panfished and that kind of thing and

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he would get annoyed with me when i'd say well can't we like just go throw a bobber in for a while

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or something you know but so it just that was his his thing was walleye and so when you had kids

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did they grow up as too yeah that yeah as soon as they were old enough to be in the boat they

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were in the boat with us and then we did start doing pan fishing more when the kids were in there

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because you had to give them something to entertain or um when the kids were real little just make

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sure you had a bucket of minerals and they just play in the middle bucket while you're fishing and

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that kind of thing so but yeah they they they grew up fishing my daughter she still likes fishing

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a lot my son he's got his own boat and he fishes and so they they're still into fishing probably

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not they're still working so they they don't have the advantage i do of not working that

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the time and stuff with kids and growing up but they still fish and so when did your husband pass

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he passed away it'll be ten years in august okay and was that sudden or yeah we um we were

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actually on a fishing trip up in minnesota um our annual christ our annual vacation that we would

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take and we always take ten or like ten to fourteen days and go up there and rent a cabin

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and um we were up there and we were only there a few days and he said you know he said i just

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don't feel good he said i think i want to go home and i'm like well if he wants to go home

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there's not good you know so we we came home and then he waited a week or so and then went in

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and uh found out he had cancer and um that was like in early may june and then he passed away the

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first part of august so it was fast yeah which is good for him i mean you don't want to see

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anybody suffer with that if they don't have to but it was hard to but it was just hard to believe

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it happened that fast i mean that had obviously that's a very quick devastating loss yeah and

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once he was gone i was like okay you know i was just lost i look i was still working so i had my job

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and um but i figured i'm never going to be able to fish again you know so i sold everything i had a

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sale and i sold all of all the baits that we sold the boat we sold all of the fishing stuff and stuff

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and then about two or two years or so later when everything settled down more and like i

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really want to be fishing again and so i started going out and buying that stuff again and um i

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actually bought a little pop-up shack on marketplace for like fifty dollars and i bought an auger and

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i went out and i kind of drilled i did my own thing with it for a while and then i thought

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i really want to get something to haul my stuff onto the ice and that um i posted on ice fishing

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junkies asking about snow dogs and the snow dogs um we're just coming out at that time and i

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thought well maybe i could get one of them because i can't back a trailer up i suck at that so i just

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would um maybe put it on the back of a carrier and so i put that out there and i got a response i got

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a lot of negatives because they would just come out and then one of them and that's when Ricky from

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Wisconsin women fish contacted me and she said did you ever hear of our women's fishing club

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and i'm like no i have never heard of it and stuff and so i wound up finding out about the club

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through that one post on social media and um i've been with the club ever since what was that like

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the first time you you showed up and it was like your first day at school or you know yeah it was

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it was and and we tell all the new members don't don't be afraid it's hard you drive you drive to

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the event that you signed up for the first one i signed up for was uh the winter um beginner one

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and i um you drove up there and it's like you almost turn around and go away because you don't

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know anybody and and within like five minutes of being there you just it's like you've been there

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forever and stuff so it's it's scary at first because you don't know anybody and it everybody

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is so welcoming when you get there that it just you don't even realize you're in that environment

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once you get into it i mean it's got to be a different feeling just to feel welcome in a group

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it is and and and they're so helpful there they they

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Wisconsin women fish aren't a competitive group they basically share all of their knowledge they

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basically help each other um if you you ride together for events sometimes you borrow equipment

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they have a lot of loner equipment that people can use through the club to get started so you

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don't invest in stuff that you might not want to do afterwards um so it's just really it's just

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a educational thing and a friendship and the friendships go so far beyond the fishing part

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after a point i have ladies that i meet up and do this or do that with now that um you know

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not necessarily always fishing either i mean could you i mean what what's more important to you

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in that sense if you can balance like being able to fish again or having that group of friends

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oh i i wouldn't even be able to weigh that that i think it's it's just the combination of the two

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having the having the avenue and and the ability to go do the things like i said i don't have a boat

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so um boat fishing when we have events and i can get into the lady other ladies bolts and go out

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on the water and stuff that's so so great but um when i get a message from one of them or or

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a phone call from one of them just checking up or just seeing what's going on you know that is as

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important as being in that boat fishing but the combination of the two are like like that's a

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bonus i mean it may be hard to think and like what would your life be like if you hadn't found

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that group i have no idea i i always tell my my son he always says yeah that's all she does is

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fish all the time now she's never home and stuff and i said well i said i could be fishing or i

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could be sitting in the window looking out the window like all old people do but i just um i

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have no idea what i would be doing with my time i do my backup for fishing is quilting and so i

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do do quilting but it's got to be the worst weather ever that that i'm sitting at the sewing machine

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otherwise i'm outside doing something but um yeah my sons and daughter both they said they're so

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glad i found the club because they've worked and they've got their families and their lives and

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um if i you know i don't know what i would be doing if i wasn't doing this i mean do you think

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your husband would be happy to know that you found this oh absolutely absolutely i'm sure he's

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a lot of time i actually most of the time when i'm on the water i think of him and i i sometimes

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think that you know i say hey come on you know get out there and chase one and fish my way or

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do this or that you don't come on mate let's let's get going up there you got your job too

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so i do i do talk to him when i'm out there a lot of times in my head and um i think that um he's

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with me when i'm out there and i think that's maybe part of why i like it so much is the fact that

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i still feel close to him even after 10 years that he's still with me broadening out how important is

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relationships with fishing because in this story we've we've found a lot of guys who it's like

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their singular thing they've kind of given up families they've lost

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wives and friends because they are so focused on it but then there's other stories of people

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who have brought in their lives by the people that surround them in fishing now well i think that if

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you're i think if you're a married couple and if one of the i'm not going to say man or women

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because it can go either way if one of the spouses is just always away from the marriage

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doing their own thing honest to me that would make it make it a hard marriage

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you know it would be hard to you wouldn't have the the closeness and stuff when you're when

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you're working together whether it's on a job or out in the boat or you know doing whatever you're

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doing and you're doing it together i think it it just bonds you know Larry and i were married 42

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years and um we basically spent every weekend pretty much every weekend you know he would go with

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the guys on occasion fishing and i went with women and did different things and stuff but

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um most of the time there it was always together and i think that just tight

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strengthens your your relationship um i don't know how familiar you are maybe you've heard about it

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from some of the younger women in your group but online dating today could be a difficult thing

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and we hear from some women about you know some of the guys that they see on the dating apps just

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all the fish pics that's the only time they smile but i mean when you think about the pictures that

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exist in your life i mean some of the biggest smiles come with a fit they do they do and and then the

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memories of it when you look at the picture and you remember what you were doing who you were with

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and and how it happened that they just that is just all part of that picture that one picture there's

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always a big story behind everyone and those stories sometimes are inflated a little bit and

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sometimes they're not well walk me through some of the photos that you share with me like you've

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got the the the biggest walleye i have a picture you have of me with uh caught that last year um

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with um Justin he was out guiding me for for the um the walleyes and that was the biggest walleye

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i've ever caught it was 27 inches so that's my goal now is to beat that 27 and that's how i do fish i

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don't save a lot of fish because i'm just by myself i don't need a lot of fish to eat

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so when i do um fish i try to beat my personal best and i also try to obtain um what our club

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has is master anglers which is a specific length on a specific species and then so i try to see

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how many of them i can get each year um but yeah my big walleye um that was the biggest one i caught

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you have a picture of me with a musky um that was the first musky i had ever voted had ever got

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in a boat um i actually did catch a musky this last summer in my kayak which was like 33 inches

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long and got him in the kayak but i couldn't get a picture of him because of that um you have a

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picture of me i actually have gone to Alaska um and fished up there i've had a caught halibut up

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there and salmon and stuff uh you have got photos of those um and you've got some older photos of

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you and your husband right yes um there are those any specific those those are probably they're

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wrong yeah this that that top those on there um one is a picture of my husband and my myself and

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my granddaughter and um the fishing boat the ones and that he's in the boat those were all

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taken up in minnesota that's where we went for vacation every year we would go we did that for

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like 13 years in a row um we found the place up up um elkra ash river trail is where it is at and

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we would go up there every year and we actually the very first year we were there we met another

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couple up there and we got to be very close with them and we'd meet him every year up there fishing

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and stuff and then um after larry passed away they're the ones who actually got me to go to

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alaska um after he passed they were going to alaska and they sent me him no one to know if i

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wanted to join him in alaska and so i've actually met them um i actually went out to colorado with

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and visited with them one year and then two years um i went to alaska with them and stuff so the

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friendships that you build off of fishing you know they carry on forever even though we're

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so far apart and i don't go up to the ash river hardly ever anymore once in a while when they are

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up there i'll drive up for a day with them and stuff but um basically your friendships stay um it just

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it's not it's locked in you've got something in common i think i want to go grab one thing real

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quick okay this this was a photo this was the last time larry and i went fishing together um

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this was our may vk our may and june vacation just before when he got sick um so this was the

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last picture i have of him in the boat and um it's just a special memory because of it being

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being the last one but this was um our last vacation up in up at the ash river that's a

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that's a good size fish it is it is but i'm sure i kind of bigger one but that i mean that's

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the front of the boat that's the him in the front and and um it's walleyes and as you can see

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check the weather out um we've got the storm colds in the back you've got the top on the water um

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that's that is exactly that's a perfect scenario for walleye fishing and so what what's the sound

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that you or him would make when you you know you had one on got one every time got one

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and the other person would know that they have to grab the net that was always the the key and

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who's the better netter um he's the better netter because he had more practice because i was

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catching him that's a good answer you gave him more experience all right that and so that's june of

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2016 correct yeah and guaranteed that if you're fishing all you have to do is get your sandwich

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out and the fish will start biting or get your beer out and open it up and as soon as you open a

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beer up the fish will start biting and you'll never get to finish it those are a couple extra

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things to go with the bad weather you can try to prompt the fish to bite now i've heard that

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you're not allowed to have a beer until after you catch a fish and i've also heard that you have

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to have a beer in order to bring the fish in yeah it depends on how bad it depends on how slow the

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fishing is yeah what the scenario would take you yeah yeah now when i went fishing with Lauren and

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Sandy up they're the ones from Colorado when i would go up and meet with them if you're fishing

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their boat anytime you catch a fish and they fish strictly walleyes to anytime you catch a fish

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then you have to have a swig of some snaps and everybody in the boat has to have a swig of stops

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when you catch a fish so it's it can be a really bad day or good day yeah you really get into it

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yeah all right so every every person that fishes they have their own little rituals or their own

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little like works that they think make it better but i think it's strictly it's going to be up to

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the fish at the end he's going to win all right anything else that you want to add i don't think

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so i well thank you so much for telling us your story oh thank you um i think we're good with this

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part i'm going to have you um kind of walk even through like

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as you can see i'm not a fish monster were those his deer down in the basement well two out of three

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oh one is mine i don't mind two areas he used to mock fish all the time i had some really big

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northerins that he'd had and we had uh different but as they get older and then i moved and i'm like

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they're not coming in my living room i'm done with the animals are my living room

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good i said you guys get out of the picture yeah

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so even with your friends you still get your kind of yeah they you know that the first when i first

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here they wouldn't come through that side because it's pretty narrow but they come around they go

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across my front yard and come in this side because it was a wider space open but now they've they've

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gotten so they've gotten so they trust the the narrow spot too i'm like laying it i didn't think

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you know at first i never had any i never had a deer in this yard till i planted an apple tree

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i planted that apple tree over here and uh do some show and tell with Ethan i'll be over here just

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kind of walk us through okay um what your wall of trophies is and where they came from

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oh this this is my wall this is the wall um this this was the first award i ever got with the

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Wisconsin women fish and that was the rookie of the year i i was totally blown away because

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one i didn't consider myself a rookie and two at my age to to win a rookie of the year thing was

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awesome that's so that you were a ringer i was a ringer i was a ringer rookie um i have a lot of

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names at the club but we won't go into that so anyway that was the first award i got um let's see

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the second one let's see there's these are these are our fish camp um we do a fall fish camp um

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event every year and then we i have a small um one day tournament up there so um in 2023 i had the

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third place for the pike and i had first place for walleye and then in 24 i had let's see which one

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is this walleye again for this one and then this was second place for pan fish in 23 so 23 was my

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really good year for for winning awards um last year i did um was runner up for master angler of the

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year um so last my goal again this year to see how many master anglers i can get but i i keep trying

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when you you had a lot of years where walleye was the main thing now with master angler it's a

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little more diversity all right are there moments where you're like you know i bet the walleye are

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biting but i'm trying to catch something different it's hard it's hard because you want to go fish

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is something you know you're going to catch and then it's like oh but i got it i got to move on

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and stuff so right now i um still working on the walleye for this year but um it it'll it's

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hard to choose which species and it's hard to catch a lot of master anglers when you don't have a bolt

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so i rely on guides to take me out in their bolts or club members that call me up and take

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me out which is awesome and so yeah anybody that wants to has a bolt and wants to take me master

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angler fishing i'm right there i take it um so but yeah it's it's hard to target a lot of those

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fish without a bolt i do kayak fishing all summer and and you can do some of them for kayak and

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i probably could be a little braver and do more of them but some of the waters i've just not that

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comfortable on by myself so i well i we've got ladies that actually salmon fish with kayaks and and

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they go to big you know big waters with them and i'm just not quite that brave

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any other no those are that's it yeah that's it so far sure there'll be more and i hope so

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