Okay, all right, let's start back at the beginning. When did you start to fish? Were you a kid? Is this something that you learned from family or friends? I'll just give it one second. I moved home again. All right, but you already heard the first question, but give me a sense of when did you first start to fish? So when I first started fishing, it kind of started off with sucker fishing, actually with my dad and my family. You know, we'll go up into the rivers and just catch them by hands. And then eventually it developed from there, you know, as a kid, one of the things we did over summer, which we did almost every single day, was we would go to Lake Winnebago and actually just go off a high cliff. You know, we didn't have a boat at that point, so it was just fishing from those rock bars there. And we were just pretty much go there every single day and just try to get some white bass off the shoreline there. And that's when I first fell in love with it. It was, you know, some days you go, you'll learn patience from that, you know, you'll go and not catch a single fish one day, but the next day you go and you just completely hammer them. And that's what I really started to fall in love with fishing. So did you live in an apotone area or where did you live to go to the backside of Winnebago? So I was born and raised in Green Bay, so I lived here my whole life. I only left for a couple of years when I went to college at UW and Milwaukee. And then, of course, I came back here and didn't hear my whole life pretty much. So you guys would drive from Green Bay down to the high cliff? Yes, we would drive. Okay. Drive about 30, 45 minutes to the high cliff. Every single day, I remember, every single day over summer, that's what we did. If it wasn't raining or something like that, it would be the high cliff. Okay. And so as you got older, did you have like a preference between what species you were going after and when you're a kid, it's like what's easiest to catch. But at a certain point, this is what I want to go after. So yeah, like any little kid, you start off with pan fish, easy fish. And then as I grew up, I went to white bass fishing through Winnebago there. But as I got older, got more experience, I started getting to bass fishing, smallmouth, largemouth. It was just always so fun to fish them because they were so aggressive. And then from there, it kind of branched two ways. It was either going salmon fishing, especially when I moved to Milwaukee, Milwaukee River is super underrated for salmon and trout fishing. It's world class and I love it there. And I do miss that kind of fishing, all the salmon fishing there. But as I came back to Green Bay, I got a boat and you know, with Green Bay being in my back door 10 minutes away, I just fell in love while fishing. And that's kind of one of my big species I always like to chase as walleyes. What is it about walleye that makes them like an apex for what people want to go catch? So in my mind, walleyes is probably one of the best eating fish, fresh water fishing area, but there's just something about these walleyes. You know, you'll catch eater sized walleyes. And then there's all of a sudden, you catch the 10 pounders, 30 inches, and that'll just change your mind, you know? One of the things I always like to tell people is like, especially when it comes to catching big walleyes to the ice, when you see that big walleye through the ice hole, it makes your heart pump like no other. It's just, I mean, for you, is it the moment where you feel hit or is it like when it finally gets in the boat, what's that adrenaline course like for you? So the first adrenaline will definitely be the thumb one. They just smacked your line, you know? I love that feeling, but when they're on the edge of the boat or swimming next to the boat or at the bottom of the hole and you see it's a giant, that's when it gets your heart beating, right? It's just a feeling you're always chasing when you're chasing walleyes. And I mean, you could catch a lot of fish, but it doesn't get old. No, that's the thing about fishing. It's like, you know, one day you get your buck completely woofed and then the next thing you go, you completely smash them. And that's the thing about walleyes is there's such a size variation, but when you get one of those big ones, that's 25 inches or plus 10 pounders, you know? That's when you start getting really addicted to walleye fishing. So talk to me a little bit about the mental game that comes with walleye, because there really are kind of a picky, tricky fish at times. And it's not, I mean, almost anyone can go catch panfish, which is why you bring kids to go. Yeah. But walleye requires a different approach. So walleye, I would have to admit it is, you know, not the easiest fish to catch out there, you know? There's so many different techniques. You know, it's not like panfishing. You put something in front of their face, they're gonna eat it. There's been a couple of instances where we went up to Sturgeon Bay and, you know, it's crystal clear water there and you drop your lure right in front of your face and they'll just not care. These fish are lethargic and kind of plays by weather and kind of the season they're in, you know? So in the spring run, they're not really aggressive because they're, you know, they're doing their thing, you know, they're spawning. So you might get a bite here and there and weather plays a big role. But one thing about walleyes is just, you know, when they're on, you're gonna really smash them. And that's one of the reasons why I like them so much. So when did you start adding YouTube into this? So when I started adding YouTube, I, you know, there was always this mindset at the back of my mind. I was like, you know, we always had one of those days, you know, where it was like so awesome. I wish we were to capture that moment. And especially now with my kids, you know, it's really nice to have that footage and go back and watch that kind of stuff and watch our little memories together. And, you know, that's one of the big things where I started filming all my fishing and stuff. It's just a good memory and I actually really enjoy doing it. And so when did you start doing that? So I think I am in about five years ago now, something around there. I started really getting into it. And before that, I'll take my GoPro and just, you know, film, not really have, you know, anything footage out of it. But about five years ago, I started making the YouTube channel, making some content, pushing it out there and letting the world see as well. So what kind of feedback do you get from that channel? So, you know, there's always positive and negative about, you know, fishing and stuff. But a majority of it, especially when it comes to like fishing Green Bay for walleyes, you know, almost anyone who hears about fishing walleyes in Wisconsin, they're gonna be thinking about Green Bay because it has huge walleyes and that's what a lot of people are chasing. And people really do appreciate my videos. They like to see like what I'm using, what I'm doing, and where I'm fishing, you know, to see what kind of bites going on during the time of season. So is there a different feeling for you if you catch one while you're filming versus if you catch it when you're not filming? I swear every time I don't bring my camera, I always have one of my best days out there. I swear, but, you know, it's, there's a little bit of a weird feeling when I don't have my camera these days, but, you know, I always do prefer to have it calling camera just sometimes some really awesome stuff happening on the camera and, you know, it's nice to go back and watch that and laugh about it when you're all done. So talk to me a little bit about the YouTube culture because there are people that learn from them. There's other people that just enjoy watching like that. That's, they don't have a chance to do, but what is the audience you're reaching? So mainly the audience I'm trying to reach is just people who have similar hobbies with me, like who like to fish and stuff like that, especially in the Wisconsin area. A lot of my videos are gonna be mainly focused on fishing Wisconsin and, you know, especially Green Bay since it's so close, but most of the audience will pretty much love fishing just like me and that's, that's why I kind of like doing it. We kind of build a little bit of community, you know, every once in a while now I go and pull the, hey, you're that guy that films YouTube for Green Bay, I was like, you're up and then it's, it's kind of nice to meet people and grow as a waller community. So, I mean, historically there's all sorts of things surrounding fishermen and like the big story with the fish tails. I mean, everyone talks about like the lies that fishermen tell them are afterwards, but how big it was and like you actually have the evidence. Does that, is that in line with that same storytelling culture around fishing or is that kind of like putting the truth to that culture? It's a little bit of both, you know, some days you still give that little fish tail line, you know, we completely smashed them, but you didn't have the camera working or something along the line with that, but it's definitely adds a lot of evidence to, you know, hey, we really did have a good all day out there. We had a lot of fun, you know, even though we didn't catch that many fish, we still had so much fun out there, you know, and that's kind of why I like filming it too, because most of the time, you know, or half the time, it's not always about catching fish. Sometimes it's just about being out there, hanging on with friends and just having a good time. I mean, people have taken fish pics forever. I mean, that's always been like, since cameras have been around, people catch a big fish, they want to take a picture of it or, you know, taxidermy hanging on the wall. This, that's definitely in mind of what you're doing. It's just an extension of history, right? Yeah, for sure. I mean, like having fish mounted, you know, there's always a store behind it, but we'll actually have a video of it. It's like, oh man, you can almost relive that good time you had out there. You know, a lot of my videos, it's just pretty much hanging out with my friends and we're fishing and doing stuff outside. And, you know, when we rewatch it, we could always have a good laugh together. So a lot of the wall-like fishing culture is dominated by older white men. What's it like to be younger and to bring in a different audience or bring a different perspective into that? Are you trying to bring more people into it? Or what would you say to people? I was like, I don't know if that's safe, that space is for me. I definitely think that, yes, it is pretty segregated and all that's definitely a lot more older white guys out there wall-like fishing. And that's kind of why I started this content. You know, I kind of see it in the younger generations. You know, they are all about social media these days and I feel like the fishing industry or just going out, going fishing, enjoying the outdoor is dying. And that's kind of one of the reasons why I like doing this YouTube stuff. You know, I wanna show that, hey, you know, I'm out there, I'm filming, I'm having fun. You know, you could be out there doing it yourself and you don't have to be stuck inside just scrolling through Facebook or social media like that. You know, there's a life outside electronics. Do you think that's important for people to hear that there is room for them out there on the lake or on the ice? Yeah, for sure. I mean, there's always, there's so much opportunity to go out fishing, you know. You don't need a big expensive boat. You just need a pole in the line and some worms and you're still gonna have a good time out there. So that's the thing is like, you know, fishing can be so expensive, but it can be so cheap as well at the same time. And you can still have such an awesome time out there. Yeah, I mean, your story starts with you being a kid just right off the shoreline, right? And I'm sure you were using $80 rods and they're fancy gear back then. Yeah, my family, you know, my parents were a refuge from the Vietnam War. So, you know, they came here not much and then, you know, we may do what we have growing up and, you know, fishing was, you know, it was fun, but it was also putting food on the table. So that's why, you know, it doesn't take too much to get out there, you know. So as far as food on the table, you talk about how good walleyes. Do you like to do fish fries? Do you, I mean, it's stuck in the freezer and by having family over, is that a big part of it? So yeah, I love having fish fries, but lately I've been going on a diet. So I've been not doing as much fish fries as I usually do, but there's nothing that can be a fresh fish right off the river and just cooking it right there, you know what? I'm always a big guy from not storing on the freezer just cause it's just not as good as when it is fresh, you know. So obviously you've got a couple of young kids. Have they had a chance to come in, I mean, it sounds very young, but have they been out in the boat with you? Is that something that you can't wait to share with them? Yeah, my daughter's been going out with me lately and she really enjoys it. She's kind of wants to go fast on the boat right now, but she does like to reel in the fish here and there every once in a while. I mean, what is that element of, you know, that family part of it? I mean, you talked about fishing with your dad your brothers, your siblings and like, how important is fishing culture to having friends and family around you? I think fishing is fun, but you know, when you're all alone all by yourself all the time, it's not as fun as having a group or your family or your kids with you. Even if you know, it's easier to have more fun not catching fish with your friends and family than it is when you're by yourself. So like I always say, you know, I'm going out there, I usually invite a whole mess of people if they can come, they can. And it's always just more fun if you have more people with you, no matter what you catch. Catching fish is always just a bonus. So, I mean, what's it gonna be like for you the first time you see your kids like reel in their own big wildlife? Oh man, the first time my daughter, hopefully the first time she catches it, hopefully it's a 10 pounder. So I put it on the wall, but I'm gonna be ecstatic, you know. She is just on the borderline of like really in her own fish, from your own casting, your own line. So it's coming up soon, but I just can't wait. And I saw you got your son in a onesie fishing. Yeah. I mean, part of that is important, like what you teach your kids when they're even that young and like that is part, I'm sure you were introduced to fishing at a younger up age, that's just what you did, right? Yeah, yeah, as a parent, not, you know, that's one big thing I'm trying to push, you know, try to get away from electronics, tea as much as you can and, you know, spending more time with them, especially quality time outside, doing the things I love, because I want them to be doing what I love too in the future. So another element of this story that we're looking at looks at all of the research and all of the money that's pumped into groups that raise, you know, a walleye fry to stock his fingerlings, and the amount of money that's spent to do these studies on walleye and walleye. In some places they're not doing as well as how to boost populations, and it's a lot of money, it's a lot of hours of a lot of volunteer time, and I'm curious whether, how would you quantify whether it's worth it? Because if walleye go down or disappear from some places, like other fish will still be there. So what is it about walleye specifically that makes it worth to do all this, to spend all this money or all this to effort to make sure they're still there? So, you know, when it comes down to walleye fishing, it's a crazy industry because, you know, a lot of people are buying like $100,000 boats, plus just to go chase walleyes, and, you know, when it comes for the spring run, especially here in Green Bay, you know, if you ever showed up and seen the Fox River, first open water, you could literally walk across the river on boats, and you know, it's a crazy, crazy industry, and I think that, you know, it's no more money as, you know, you could put as much money as you want into it, you know, there's no end to that, and I think walleyes are specifically important because they taste good, and they're fun to catch, and they get big, and, you know, it's kind of its own little world, you know, these fish are an amazing creature in their own ways. What you were talking about, when you started what species you were targeting, as you grew up, and you eventually kind of had those options and you branched out, but what age were you first aware that walleye was considered, like, different from some of the other things? I would say when I was in my early teens or so, you know, you know, the thing about it is, like, bass fishing is so addicting, and then you get to a point where you're like, hey, you can pretty much throw anything in front of a bass, and they'll eat it, and then you get to this next level, wait, these walleyes are different, they take a little bit of skills, where else you're never gonna catch them, and that's why I tell a lot of people to come and vote. You gotta know how to jig, you know, that's, I get this from my friends all the time, because I always tell them, whenever I'm catching fish on a boat, they're not catching anything, I always say, you know, you gotta know how to jig, and they always jokely say that to me and say, hey, you gotta know how to jig if I'm not catching anything, but definitely walleyes is a different predator in some way, it's definitely a little bit more tougher to catch, and that's what makes them so much more fun. And so being successful though, kind of is a way to demonstrate your skill level, it's a way of, I mean, if you say, someone says, I'm really good at catching pan fish, okay, but if you say I'm really good at catching walleye, you've got the videos to prove it, like you're looked at differently, right? Yeah, definitely, you know, walleyes, especially Green Bay, if you look at Green Bay, it's a huge body of water, if you can, you know, put on a good day all on the bay, you know, you got something going on, right, and you definitely figure something out, and don't pay like other fish, you know, you just put it something in front of their face, they're gonna eat it, but if you find all the walleyes in the world, some days they might not just eat, and then you just gotta pick them apart, you know, that's the fun of is you gotta throw different things, you gotta try different cadences, and different techniques, and you know, if you figure it out, it just makes it feel way better. All right, anything else that you wanna have that we've been talking about? I just wanna say that, you know, I believe walleyes are one of the best fish around in this area, in Wisconsin area, they're great to eat, and you know, living in Green Bay here, you know, I want the population to thrive, so my kids can enjoy them one day, just like I am, and you know, walleyes are important to me, and that's why I'm involved in programs like walleyes for tomorrow, and trying to improve habitat, and trying to make just better walleye fisheries around. Can I get you to say and spell your name, just try to correct annotate? My name is Shia Vang, spelled S-H-I-A-V-A-N-G. All right, and what's the name of your YouTube channel? My YouTube channel is Shia's Outdoor Adventures. Cool, that one's so bad, right? Oh, great. Let's do 27, is it all right, you're gonna tell us a name? So we're just gonna be quiet, so we can record the sound of the room. Okay. Okay. That should work. What do you want us to do? I don't know, what would you guys normally do? Maybe sit down with couch, mom and baby, and then if you guys wanna, you can sit next to me, baby. Good. No pressure. Should I put like one of my videos on, maybe? Yeah. That'll work. One real video of you. When you were tiny. Remember? No, no, no, no. It's gonna last you one of those YouTube videos. Oh, awesome. You've doubled those to be wrote. Yeah. Watch a little video of you. You were tiny. Which one you're gonna watch? We'll watch one of your snowmobiling, or you won't watch one of your own boat. Mm, I don't know about what. Last little one. What was the time when all she wanted to do every day was watch daddy's videos, instead of, you know, Paw Patrol, or whatever. She don't watch those. Now he's a second rate to Paw Patrol once by their man. I'm sure he'll flip back. Yeah. This one is the one with Maggie. I don't know how you'll have to go back aways. Let's play the downward picture. Don't you? This is the ice fishing one. This is the ice fishing one. How's last here? What do you do? Mm. Oh, she made me. He's a little. Oh. Remember this part? Do you want to go there again? Oh, what a little. You were. That one went to my own boat. Remember you go fishing? Let's do it up to where you're fishing, remember? Oh, look a little you were. You're so small. No. This is Jay's turn this year. No. Yeah. Go down here. Yeah. You have to share your sled. Here you go. Grandma. There you go. Do you remember? Oh yeah. Oh my. Look how cute you were here. Oh you're fishing. Oh look, daddy got one. Oh, I think he's so small. Look at you. Oh you got the fish. Oh no. Hey. Show me a cute shirt. Nice. Look at that. Oh you left his face. He left his face. He left his face. Oh no. Oh right here. He left his face. Like you can go up there for a weekend. You want to spin? I want to spin. I want to spin. I want to spin. I want to spin. Fish for an hour. He's carried daddy. Yeah. I want daddy to carry you. Oh there's you. Ready to go. Fast turn. Ready? You want to jump? Go down. Go down. Go down. Go down. Go down. Ready? One, two, three. Trampoline. Trampoline? Yeah. How is that a trampoline? How is that a fireman? I don't know. There it should be. Oh no. We'll meet then. It'll be the orange trampoline instead. Oh no. Oh. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. All right. Fish in first, right? You guys want to see all their stuff? Have you ever been on this river? Not for fishing. Not for fishing. Not for fishing. I did a story about the lock system. Oh yeah. It's a pretty crazy system like y'all on this river. It's crazy. Yeah, so we started up at Winnebago and went all the way up to the river. Oh yeah. Yeah, it's got to get a little deeper water for it to go. Yeah. It is amazing. All the commercial traffic came into the Green Bay and up the river at that time. I think I just want to think cool about this river. It's like so urban at the same time. It's industrial. You see all the coal, coal piles and all the big ships coming through. It used to be so polluted. Yeah, I know. It's crazy how much it's changed. Yeah, I'm playing on trolling today. The cast plate has been pretty slow, so. It's just a little shallow here. Everyone get down for their naps? Nope. It's the ball. So is your wife on maternity leave? She works from home. She has a couple days off here because of the wedding. I'm actually on leave, so. We staggered our leave, so she would take her first one and now it's my chair. That's great. I don't know anything season. Yeah, coincidentally, right? Y'all feel? Yeah, I made sure that neither one of my kids was born in November. Yeah, y'all are the same here. It's crazy how low the water is these past couple of years. Usually it's flooded almost. Really, you guys good? Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There we go. All right. Get some stuff ready for a start trial on here. I'm going to cross this side. There's nobody out here fishing today. All right. A little bit of old. There's fish in here. I guess that before the weather plays a little role for these walleyes. I figure inside here would be the most consistent bike. For me at least. All right. So you do have your fishing license, right? Okay. All right. All right. All right. At least we're just running the trolling motor. So you don't have to hear the big motor all day. The kicker only when you have enough wind that you need. Yeah, if we can't get fast enough. Flicker middle, size 7. Pulling them back 30 feet. Probably just controlling like 7 to 10 feet of water only. 7 to 8 to 15. Flicker middle, size 7. Pulling them back 30 feet. Probably just controlling like 7 to 10 feet of water only. 7 to 8 to 15. Before we got into here. Just put this on our legs. All right. All right. All right. All right. Try to get a little farther from shore. All right. Get me. All right. All right. All right. We'll have something on the outside already. We did that. We caught some garbage. Let me get this one off first. I haven't gained that lately to short bites. It's so annoying. That was a fish that just dropped that board all the way back. Oh, come on. Yeah, that he came off. It's surprising with the trouble. I know, right? It's just like sometimes they're really aggressive. Sometimes they're not. Sometimes it's just poking at it. Oh, board straight again, so. So, do you have a preference between more active style of jigging and casting versus like a little more passive like this? I do like jigging a lot better, but I kind of follow up the fish or what they want more. You know, he covered a lot more water trolling and it's just right now. It seems like with this weird weather that casting body is just, it's all over the place. This boat is being weird too, no. I don't even want to tell you this except because this bike would be a little good. I'm going to have something on that one. See the whole site just dropped back a little bit, I don't know if we got garbage or a fish just give it a second, man. That to me is a little guy, I'm going to check this one, just don't fold this, quit the unquit, so I can swing it, oh we got some garbage, we got a leaf. That's not what we're looking for. Come on. 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I mean, yeah, Ethan's also at the front. All over the place. Yeah. Yep. We're doing an eight-tradocumentary called St. Treasures, so we go up north a lot and just film like waterfalls and rivers, big and looking out nice. That's cool. It's pretty fun. It's kind of fun. It's tough for people to fall asleep too. Yeah. We call it like, you know, dental dentist office kind of. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So you guys are probably traveling all the time, and I'm like, yeah. Never ending. For me, it hasn't been the last six months, we're kind of crazy, but this is our kind of our last week for a while for this, so it's nice. Oh, yeah. But then I'm back on the road, not next week, but the week after, for work, so I'm always going somewhere. Yeah. Johnny, your family? Oh, just a girlfriend. See your friend. Yeah. You're a little more hard if you have kids, you know. Yeah. That's what we don't let him. Okay. Go home care kids. You can't go home, right? He's asked, and we're like, no, you're no longer. No, I was actually afraid when I had other family that he won't be able to work with me again. A little bit of work of me. Yeah. There's a point in time, like, we've been hitting hard this last year, son. Yeah. And we're going to work a lot of weekends in the new year, and my girlfriend's like, what? Why? You're Christmas off, right? Yeah. You can talk to Zach. Well, it's kind of a fun piece to all the years you're doing. Yeah, I know it's been really fun. This should be a good story, you know. It's been a lot of interesting people. I just need to fish the bite today. That's about it. I don't know. Pretty much. No pressure. If we don't get one, we'll find it next spring. There we go. Spring is where it's at. Where it's like, no doubt, you know, we're going to catch something. We're trying not to overload spring in terms of how much we have to get. Is that is the end of our time? Oh, yeah. Please. We're going to spend a chunk of it up north with a couple of different tribal members. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Well, obviously, like, spring time is where it's at on this river, on this, on the bay. That's when it's like, you can't find a parking spot anywhere, you know. And then everyone's out here. Everyone's out here. Is that the late April? Oh, early April. Early April? Yeah. Right at the end of March, usually. March into April. And that's when there's... When it's first open water, that's when everybody's on this river. Yeah, I've got to take a seat and relax. I've got some more if you haven't eaten water in here. No, but it's these kind of days where we're like, you know, even if there's nothing but still water. Just relax. Yeah. I mean, this is pretty nice if you guys are working, you know. Yeah, no one envies the amount of miles we drive, but they do envy what we get to do. Yeah. If I was getting paid to do this, oh yeah, I'll do this all the time. So is YouTube like a part-time thing or is it just kind of... Yeah, it's just a fun part-time thing, you know. I'm not too serious into it. Has it started to make any money yet? Yeah, I made some. Yeah. That's good. It's fun. Like some of the videos, you know, I go back and always laugh at them. That's why I enjoy doing it. It's kind of crazy about what YouTube has shifted over time. Yeah, I know, right? I guess that's how it is these days, you know. Especially the younger generations. That's all they do is watch YouTube. Frankly, with the decline of regular television, which we're a part of. Yeah. YouTube's got, you know, not all YouTube, but if you know where to find it. Yeah. There's decent content in there. I just hate the like, the garbage you're watching on YouTube. Like some of the, my nieces and nephew watching, like what are you guys watching? Yeah. How is this even like entertaining? Yep. I get this, it's their generation, I suppose. Yeah. Back when I was a kid it was, you know. Bugs Bunny was the problem. The Simpsons, those are the terrible influences on kids, so. Tell me a quick turn here. There's no paying attention to them, but me there. Check there. I should make it. I thought it was going to be a lot worse out here though. Let's say that. It's kind of gorgeous out there. Mm-hmm. Almost too nice when you're talking about walleyes. You need a little chop? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I looked at the Bay Shore life camera and I was like, oh man, that looks, looks a little brutal out there. It's whenever there's this northeast wind, so it's like just blowing straight through the channel with a whole bay. Mm-hmm. And the waves really build up. So where do you think that other guy at the boat landing was going? I'm not sure with that big old boat. This is going for a joy ride. It looks like the kind you go out on the highway. Yeah, your way out there. So which way is the thing? That way. That way. Yeah. South. Yeah. I'm like right on the end too. Like a no-fly zone, because the airport size. Oh. That way. Yeah. I've seen plenty of drones out here. So where do you work? I worked just down the street on Adler Force. It's like a hollow metal frame and door and frame manufacturer. Okay. Yeah. But I work from home. I work from home. I work from home. So it can be good and can be. Yeah. It's nice. How about I get to spend a lot more time with kids, so I can't complain at all. Yeah. Yeah, my part of the job is I'm from home above 40 to 50% of the time. That's not bad. They count my days in the field as days in the office. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a nice sound. So I only have to be in the office a few more times over like a two-week span and then that. That's not bad at all. It's the threshold. You follow the flags? I can't try to. Yeah, that's the thing about fall is like these wallways aren't sure what they want to do yet. Depending on weather and the flow. It's just such low water years these past two years. Yeah. Do you have a drop that thing in the water yet? I crashed my personal drone in Canada at the bottom of the lake. Never a work drone. So in the spring is it mostly jigging? Yeah, you'll see mostly jigging people jigging. The only time you really see anybody trolling is at night. Okay. There's probably not a lot of room to troll if there's that many. Yeah, that's the thing. Usually they'll be trolling the same line that we're running here. But yeah, it's more fun to just feel and hit the line. So what do you use this thing for? So this is a website your site's winner? That's my live imaging. Okay. Well, I haven't used my boat for like two months since you messaged me and then this little thing took a crap on me. So I'm in the process of replacing it right now. That's also not jigging. This thing makes a big difference. Those are expensive little units, right? So it dies, it's just done. I'm going through the warranty process right now, so that'll take a while. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How long have you had the boat? Probably like three years now, a little over three years. Do you like it? Yeah, I love this boat. It fits in my garage perfectly, so it's, I like it. I would like a bigger boat, but I would need a new building to put it in too, so. Okay. Yeah, this thing fits in there perfectly. There's some upgrades I want to do, but there's other stuff right now. We're actually finishing our basement up to right now, so. Okay. Put the playroom down there. Yeah, pretty much. What would you do to upgrade it? Well, I wanted to put a rail here and put a rod tree. That's like one of the first things I'll do. Okay. Put some down riggers for salmon fishing as well. Well, most of that customized onto the rail, or do you have to like do it? Yeah, there's like a exact piece that will just fit. We'll fit right on top of these brackets right here. Okay. Just haven't bit the bullet yet. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, sorry. Okay. Okay. I don't know where the fuck I'm going to do. I don't know where the fuck I'm going to do. Oh, yeah. That's okay. Okay. I didn't like that you were moving it's just the well that makes it hard but the motion sensors so does it makes it's gonna hit something oh yeah yeah if he is you should go to the the Shawna Lake Hatchery when they're in the spring they have a really nice setup there I think is I think it's nicer than a big cedar he has not to yeah the cedar one that was pretty much new so I didn't have much of the setup yet yeah because you go see the whole process I did a little video then you go see the whole process it's it's pretty cool if you don't any tournaments no I have I just don't have time these days so much things going on kids I barely have time to fish and hunt as much as I want to this is things like like you said earlier you have here to hold white so do you have salmon do you smoke it or are you to smoke it a little bit of ball like the thing is like when you catch them all the way out on the lake they're only 100 feet of water but yeah I do like smoking salmon it's especially like you catch it like your day or two before you smoke it fresh fresh salmon but yeah it has been to the train museum there they've just they've just built that new building here I haven't seen the new building here that's the railroad museum most of them are okay they're never really gonna do trains they're interesting in the setting of the river the spring break into the new museum oh yeah and one of the first things you do when you get your ticket this year we go in and you get in the actual train card yep oh that's kind of cool sitting in the actual they were you know the experience yeah that's cool son man son wearing your face can't see the food probably gonna make a turn here going reset I think our best bet is in front of where we had the mess way pretty sure it's got to wash the bridge now all the time he came off again got washed the bridge oh yeah looks like a little walleye we get a sheet there he is there you go it's good to eat it's gotta make sure we make it through the bridge now you guys want to keep fish I'm not going to want any fish I got a wedding tomorrow so I don't really have any time all right make them look a little bigger don't go ahead we're about to get into some shade no just like right there here come on release video can you see you you got you sure of course we're in the Sun we got area under the bridge change that okay plan to make another run down clad Got one in the boat. 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Oh no, I should have pulled that board in. That was tangled nice now. Oh yeah, that's a nice one. There we go, that's a bigger one. And I have a tangled mess, thank you for this. There we go. There we go, there's a nice one. Probably 17-18 inches. That one feels a little nicer for sure. Nice looking fish. Whatever you want me to hold it. Can I have a long arm it? I'm going to drop it in here if you want to try to catch a release. Another nice boy. It came off, dang it. That was decent, it was probably about the same size. He's trying to cut back in. Now as many fish as you would see in the spring. We'll get a hold of you if we're up here in the spring and you're going out and see if we can tag along. I know you're dedicated. I got a coat if you need it. It's no biggie, like I said, this is my home, so I come out here whenever I want to. Wish we could have just got that one, that would have been like, we're good, good. I think there's a fish on the line, that's how it always goes. I think that would be a gorgeous day though, man. Yeah, I know, there's some big houses though. The bigger houses are above the van, that's rather, that's where all the packer players and who knows this up there. That's where the real money is. Yeah, this is taking me out of the way. Pretty much like the hospital this way is handling. That looks pretty good on the camera there. We're going to be holding a fish right there. I wish it was like two days ago. You guys are trying to go, it's like, oh man, it's horrible, at least it's not like... The outside board has been messing with me. I'm going to put the rats on this side, this time actually. I think I'm a bitch. You can't see the tip of glam over there, there's those flashy light right above that nice building there. It's not opening or not. I don't know if this one is something garbage. I think it's garbage. Don't feel like a fish. Not a fish. There's some in the bowl. Yeah, I could have flipped the fishes in, the net's going to run away a foot here. I don't want you guys to be too cold. It's the coldest part right here. There we go. Go catch on here. There we go. There we go. There we go. There we go.