Well, it's like I've never done this before. She's a man, I can't freakin' see. That was interesting. I could have added about two more feet of concrete on this side, but man, I'm in the rocks. I hope you didn't film that. The guys are going, this guy ever launched a boat before? He's coming down to rocks. There's a lot of scratch marks on those rocks. At least that started. More than I can say about other stuff here. I was working on this more. So I was going to replace the carpeting with vinyl flooring two years ago. That's when I hit all the terrain load of sicknesses and just sat out there and I never got it done. So that's why it looks like it needs to do carpeting, because it does. So here we are. Like I said, I've been working on electrical stuff. Come on. I ain't going out there without this working. Do you want me back there? Yeah. Yeah, they're not allowed to sit up there. I don't care, but I don't care. I don't care about the game-warding load. And Dennis Jameson used to be the game-warding down here. Years ago. He probably helped me. He knew him all the time. He checked me every day. One of those deals. He said to me one day he was in the dark and he goes, I was watching you with a spotty in school, ball day. He says, I think you caught two more fishy were supposed to. I said, you do. He said, now Darryl, you know better than that, right? You're not supposed to be catching fish for other people, right? Even though you're guiding. You can't do that. I said, I know that. He says, so no matter what we're going to do about it, I said, well, I know what you're going to do about it. You're going to prove that I did that, because I did not. And I said, I have two witnesses that will testify that I didn't. Well, it sure looked like it to me. I was watching. And I said, well, I caught a couple of them. In fact, we caught 50 fish in there. Then they kept throwing back. I said, I kept fishing, because it's legal for me to keep fishing after I have five. But I was showing them back. Well, I'm giving you a warning. And it was just messing with me, pretty much. So I got a spot down here. When these fish come up in the fall, that they always stayed on. And when we got for water temperature, I'm afraid the luck is probably so warm. I can't see. It's a glare. And that's where I was. So that's where we're going. Because it's a good staging area. It's kind of hard to fish. A lot of guys don't fish it. Because the current's squirrely there. Looks like we got wind going to blow us upstream today. Man, I can't see that. I can't get this loose. I'm going to show up to you. Oh, put that in there. That's what we did. 63. That's really warm. It should be 53 right now. Yeah. Well, Lisa's not 73. That was still 70 up there. Some of the lakes up north that we were on. Yeah, I get musky guys. We're really griping. And all my buddies are seeing this. The fish aren't going. Because the water's too warm. The glass it'll change. I'm not sure what this guy's doing. I'm just going to go around in here. I'm not going in there because I know it's about a foot deep. I was thinking about this spot, you know. All day, all night. I want to start on my best spot. That's usually a bad spot. And then I'd catch you there. And then if you don't, it's like, oh, man. You know. No. No, where we going? One thing about it is a good scenery. I was talking to my neighbor and he goes, this is how many fish you got to catch. I said, there's sort of a few. You just need a few fish. He said, well, you can do that. I go, I guess I could pretend I'm guiding today. That would help make me warm down and settle. It doesn't help when the camera guy goes, well, we just want to get some shots of you fishing. I'll catch you the fishing day, big deal. The producer goes, yeah, it is. It's a real big deal. You know, I won that Old Style National Wildlife Tournament here in 1988. I won a $7,000 boat, which was a lot of money back then. And I just bought it. So I sold it right away. Some guy offered, he said, I'll give you $7,000 for a second. Okay. I don't have to get the rest of the summer. This is what they call the High Lines. When you hear people talking about a fish going by the High Lines, obviously there are no actors, nobody down here. But we'll see. You know, fish got it moved in last night with the cold. They feel that temperature drop. The only bad thing is there's no, there's not a lot of current. They're not running much water to draw them out of Lake Wisconsin. But I've caught them there all summer. So normally I'm fishing 17 feet with the lower water, it's probably going to be more like 14, 15. We're going to hit either side of this puppy. It's going to find where the break is here. Oh, I should have done that. What the heck? All right. Well, I know where I'm at here, so. There's absolutely no current here. Wow. Usually you're racing down through here. I got all too heavy a jig's on. All right. Let's see what we got here. Awesome. Okay. So. So how good a jig fisherman do you think you are? Pretty good? Well, we primarily drink from jigs. Sure. Okay. Well, we're shallow enough here. I think this will work for you to find. I'll show you. We need to show you this once, right? Through the end of the mouth, side of the mouth, and just through the back of the head. Now, if you want, because there's no current to speak of, usually what we do with our dirty algae bloom is we drift this. There's some snakes here, and just vertical jig it. And knowing your land goes slack, you know, it's on the bottom. You've got a pretty light jig on here. If you want something heavier, you can do that. So you can do that if you want, or you can cast and retrieve it if you want. It's entirely up to you. We're probably going to make several passes through here. So, you can just jig it. Kind of like that. Let it drop. Swim it. Let it drop. The land goes slack. Swim it. Let it drop. So, that should work for you. If, like I said, if you're not feeling the bottom good, and other times, you know, I thump it to where they'll just smoke it. And then other times, they'll just be hanging there. Soggers especially. Which I'm going to ask you to do. Soggers count. We can make them count. They're just a cousin of a walleye, right? I don't like how slow this current is here. Well, we're coming right down it. Perfect. This runs this water as we can fish this pretty aggressively. I mean, these fish ought to be, they see something come through the water. They ought to just hammer it. They just want to get a little deeper. 11 feet here. Now, well, this is normally considerably deeper than this. It's ridiculous that the current, the wind is actually blowing us against the current, which just don't ever happen. Get 12. So as we get deeper, it's going to be a little, I'm eyeballing those geese thinking about my goose hunting. As we get deeper, we may have to go in a little heavier jig. We're going to make sure that I learned 14, that you just let out more line. Oh, come on. This is the spot. This is the spot. I mean, there's not even a current breakdown here. It's just more like a flat, you know. Usually it's just rolling over here. We get down a little with my blind. Okay. Yeah. When we get down here a little bit further, you see that buoy in the middle of the river? That's a rock. It starts to turn in a rock down there. They may be on the rocks, but that's usually later. We may have to go up toward the dam or where there's more current. This is a huge staging area. I mean, almost every fish that moves up the river stops here. How long have you been fishing this stretch? Since 1982, I started guiding here. Okay, so let me just nut. Don't tap me. I was guiding a couple of guys down on the Fox River one fall early November. Might have been late October. And one of the guys goes, there's a goose over there on the shore. I go where? It's just right there. Well, I figured it wasn't a place a goose should be, so I figured it was wounded, you know. So I eased up. Where are you guys? They're not out here. Not yet. I'm not seeing anything on the graph either. I got to get that bomb on the graph working. That's the one we're taking up north. I don't know why this is always works. I don't know why it's not working today, but it isn't like it's, I don't know, it's wet or something. Oh, come on. It's just having hit those rocks yet. That's the... that might help. So very little currents. 14. 15 feet. Boy, they should be here. This would normally be or 17 feet. I'm going to screw this across here. Well, they weren't off the brake, so I'm going to move this a little bit here. Okay. It should be nice to look at that graph and see some fish. This one is over here. I said, if I find an area with some fish, I'll tell you where they are. You can come and fish them. I said, we're hoping to catch a few fish. Okay, so that's really shallow over there. I think I want to keep us out of that. Now you can kind of see the rock on the shore there. Then it comes all the way out to that buoy. Almost like a wing dam. That's where they put the ducks in right there. I wonder if they didn't put a wing dam in there. See, right now I'm saying to myself, I'm glad I'm not guiding out here. Well, I know there's walleyes in there all summer. There's a trip. Come down here in the summer when they're doing water ski shows and they're running the ducks up and down through here and somebody wants to hire you to fish. I'm like, oh man. I could always try to not do that. I didn't guide much in the summer anyway when I was turning with fish and it just didn't have time. Wasn't here. Fall. Spring. Now we're right on the break now again. There's some, finally, there's some fish right there. No, they can't fish. Right off the edge, just like they're supposed to be. Huh. I wonder what those were. Whatever they were, they don't eat minnows. Evidently, you know. Usually you see four fish in a spot. Water was going to bite. Oh, there was a little tap. I am one of the eight inch saugars. Hmm. But it couldn't be better on this spot here. Little bird. Well. It all looks tasty. Notice we picked up speed a little now. It's just good. It's got a little more current. There we go. Oh, there he was. Missed that one. Yeah. I don't know. There's no mark on the middle tooth barks or anything. It's just supposed to be. We got some fish down here. Come on, guys. It didn't feel like a decent fish. Small. This little water is going to keep us from going downstream any further. Because it gets all boulders and rocks down there. In the spring, in the high water, you can motor over them. Oh, there he is. These guys are telling the guys over there. They're telling those guys don't get too close to that boat. They got me out of a gun in there. All right. Yeah. Miss worked this a little more. We got it all day, right? We got it all day. We used to mark and more stuff down here. From when we first started. I'm not sure what kind of fish they are, but... There's no low, low, low, low. There's no low, low, low, low. Got them in more current, slowing current. We'll be down there. It's only perfect of this fish in it. 63 degrees. We're making that noise. You are. That would be crazy. Yeah, we can work down that thing perfect. Well, okay. There's a real nice fish back there. There's just not a lot of fish here, guys. We're seeing one in here and one there, but... Take us in this inside cut here. We'll take it up, bring it back so we get... Let's see some fish here. Yeah, look at that graph in front. I mean, that's as bare as a bear can get. It starts dropping off again towards shore here. I thought it'd bring us inside of this. Sometimes they do cut into these shoreline cuts. We're in the spring and fall. It's only behind us there was some fish, so... There's some here too, right off of this break. Well, there's a crazy lot of bait fish right here. Look in the bottom there. Ooh, rock. My first rock bite. I knew it didn't feel right. I didn't like that jig anyway. I felt that thing go right in between two rocks. I'm getting that out. Welcome to the Wisconsin River. Yeah. I only got five other rods here I could use, but... I kind of like this one. Ooh, ooh. He's a champ. Oh, here we got a nice sunny day. Oh, beautiful. These guys... A little bit of color in the trees. Tucker grabbed it and let it go on it. That ain't... That's got to be a sheep pet or something. Well, I just don't do that. Especially vertical jiggle when they hit it, they thump it. Look how he rotted that is. And how high is he rotted? I mean, how high does he... He's insane. That is insane. I'm sure you've seen some of the photos from the upper delts, like all those caves and caverns back there. Yeah. Like the H.H. Bennett stuff. That's crazy. Okay, I'm gonna get us. I'm gonna move us. Yeah. For a wee... For a wee crash in on a rock pile. Looks like a guy in a boat. It shows how good the bait is by the dam. Yeah, that guy's guiding. The guy has been a wife. Looks like... I should have gone tell him there's no fish there. Well, if there were anything like me, they'd be trying to get away from the crowd, you know? Uh... Well, I'm actually on the Wisconsin River trying to catch something beside the sheephead. At the delts. I don't know. I call the state guard. We just need to find out our car. The state guard, we just need to go right there. We just need to find the grass there. Okay. But I didn't have any ever ready to go look for a rock and call, but you could knock it in. Or you could go at all. And the nature of the land is there. You can call it in. Right, sir. Sir. All right. Thank you. I think the ramp is just together. I think it's just for yourself. I think I'm on the campus. There you go. There you go. Yep. Oh, I need to go over to the center now. No. I call the center now together. If I am dancing in a bar, I'm off. We're all on Friday. I'm starting to hear one. Uh... I'm dancing in a bar when we go. Uh... Okay. I think your letter is not true. No, I'm working all day tomorrow. Because I want to get everything done before I head up north. So... Five feet and another six feet. Yeah. Yes? Right. Well, what we really need is some rock. Some big rock. Or something to keep it from washing out. Is this... We just got a thing in through. I have an inspection. I have an inspection. I have an inspection. I have an inspection. It was the AMP. Right. And they've already pre-infected. Because it needs to be done. Yeah. I've got to last this wall. Okay. Uh... Because roughly... Uh... Uh... Uh... Uh... Uh... Uh... Right. I mean, any time he gets, you know, he wants... That he was good for him. Because I plan... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to finish up a PBS special. Well, we're actually trying to finish up a PBS special. And, uh... And it's not... Everything's been great so far. Lots of wildlife. Beautiful blue sky. Colors. Trees. Uh... No people to speak of. Yeah. The only thing we need now is some fish. He hit that right on the head. Yeah. There's no... There's probably no fish. There's probably no fish. That's why there's no people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Well, part of all day. Got a DNR. There we go. Got a... Yeah, that was definitely a guide. He went down, went around a corner. Probably graphed it, looked around, said there's nothing there to see good. They shouldn't fish or, if they didn't, they'd fish it really fast. Didn't get bitten. He went all the way up to the boat launch. I knew I'd see what's coming up in just a couple seconds. I know I'd just see what's coming up. Well, it's that time of year, guys. You know, on the normal fall, like, back when I got in here, this would have been fine. This would have been good. He got there. Private beach. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this is really, yeah. Really telling you how to fish in this upriver. When you see everybody coming down at 11.30 down stream. Well, if they see it, it'd be nice. So right next to this, this river's edge resort. So I guided out of there, and there's your boat landing. And it got so crazy when this got so popular that that was the only ramp. And it was private. And then this guy next door, Cedar Lodge, he put a ramp in because he could charge people a lot. And so this public launch was not here. It was just those two private launches. And people always grabbed because they charged so much. It's a delve. Look at the fish in here, guys. 16, 17 feet. This is one of the spots I always would like to drift. Wow. I'm not seeing their walleyes, but we better fish them. I'm still marking them. As long as I'm marking them, I'm going to keep going. I will drift her back. OK. Let's sketch them right here. Let's do it. Right here. We are in mega windstone on here. It's stronger than the current. I'm going to first drift through here. That's all right. That's a work. Holy moly. I have some wind. Packing on my minnow down there is a little guy. Tap, tap, tap. Some of those fish weren't little. They are pretty good looking size fish. I'm going to get a centider. There is actually a current here. You just can't tell that the wind is pushing us back. Come on, bite that. That's got to be sheep head. Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. The sheep are trying to get that minnow in a little tiny mouth. Oh, man, did he drill that. I don't know if that was a sheep head. He got the minnow. That fish is hammered that minnow. That's more like it. It wasn't much like a walleye plate. I don't know what it was, but man, he drill that. Well, it's a really good bite I've had. They just pasted it. I thought I had that fish. Oh, yeah, you fish were those fishy good bites. I might down below there. That could have been a little smally too. Looks like the guide's done for the day. Pulling his boat out. Rivers, Edgies, the right bike. I tell stories about that place. I'm not going, but I could. Oh, that was a different person on those days. A lot younger. Oh, man, who's are those? A little walleye or a sauger, because there ain't a mark on that minnow. But whatever grabbed that other minnow ripped it off of there, real well. This would have more like a sheep bite. Right tight to that 12 to 15 foot break. That was supposed to be. All right. I think it's worth it to make another drift through there. I don't think it was a sheep, as hard as it hit. Look at them down here. Those are biters right on the bottom like that. Look at them there. Big wad of fish right there. I try to keep us in it. I think I can fish this cleaner by facing the shore with this wind. Let's see. Maybe. It's definitely the best group of fish I've seen. I was just as much current. I'm just as much current as I've seen. A rock bite. A jack is up here. A jack is up here. A jack is up here. A jack is up here. You get her out. Well, that duck opened up that spot. You know, that don't bother those fish. You may have to go across and make a drift through there. Here we go, Zach. This is a drift. I think we're out of here. The wind died down. The perfect wind drift was like that. Something hanging on there wasn't a fish. Oh, you got the big rock. A jack is up here. Get you above it, if I can. Perfect. I got a lot of rock before you get the rock, but it don't always happen. Here we go. How long dies where are you? What happened to that fish that hammered me? I came back. There he is. What is that? How do they grab it and let go? There he is. Little guys. There's a little guys. There he is. There he is. There he is. That was a better fish. Definitely a better fish. What is going on here? Did that rod tip bend? I might say that was a walleye. It could have been a sheepie. I don't know if that fish would come back. I think I might have turned him inside out with a hook set. Kind of in the same area I had that bite before. I hated that when it happened in a tournament. Especially when the bite isn't good and every bite is so important. Now we are out of the zone. There he is. Look like it. There is one coming up. What is that? I don't know what it is. Big cat. I'm going to have a horse. Why do they grab this reel? That's a cat. I'm sure it's a cat, probably a big flathead. All of the fish we are marking as a cat. A whiskered walleye. It is a flathead. Man, run. Look at that. They call it a whiskered walleye. People at officials eat them, say they are better taste than walleyes. Seriously. It's a nice little cat. But it's not what we are looking for. There you go. Now, for what it's worth, flatheads and walleyes do hang out together. We may want to fish this past another drift. Hey, it's the right thing. It's a sauger. Look at this. I'm telling you. Fish located don't lie. Give us our biology. It's a really nice sauger. You can tell the difference with seal spots on the dorsal fin. Now, that tells you it's a sauger instead of a walleye. Plus it's brown. It's a green. I know some walleyes are brown in real dark water, but they are always that color. And then you don't see the big white tip on the tail. Like a walleye has. Just have a little sliver of white. That's a pretty sauger. That's actually a nice sauger. They do get four or five pounds in here. Not a lot of them. Usually two or three pounders are a really good one. That's a good one. That's a keeper. Maybe. Let's find out. They've got to be 15 inches down here. Not that we're going to keep it. See if we caught all the eagle size fish today. Somewhere in my basement here. Yeah, I bet he's 14 and a half. No, he's just 14. Still, nice sauger. So in the past, they didn't have a size number on these fish in here. And of course, with all the fishing pressure, you think about, there was nothing to catch 15 of these three guys who wanted to catch 15. Well, they got smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller. And the guides and the people here said, you know, there's a hammer in this resource. There's 50 incense on walleyes. And now it's 15 to 20 inches, but only three. And then the next one you can keep has to be over 28. So you're looking at a 9.10 pound fish. Trophy fish. So that's good. So there aren't a lot of walleyes in that four or five or six pound range. Another couple of weeks they'll be up here. But hey, that's a nice one. Let it go. All right. You know what? We better drift that again. Oh, I got one on here. What's this little guy? Are you here? Another sauger. They're long, you know. They're not as chunky as a walleye. Real long fish. But yeah, they're fun to catch. I mean, they're more aggressive. Yeah, in tournament competition we fish a lot of real dirty stained water saugars like that. Yeah. Very cool. That's a good healthy man. It's good to see these in here. Good future of fishing in this river. Want to make another pass? Sure. I thought you might. I sure do. Something to do a lot of that. Something to do out of the boat. What the hell is that? Oh jeez, you got it back? Yeah. Well, is that lucky? They're real embarrassed. They're not going to stay. They're out of here. We don't want to be around any day. Oh, there's the... Especially down there. You know, we fished this depth. We didn't mark many fish there. Oh, what's this big attraction here? There's quite a few here. I mean, even this time when I'm ordered back up and marked several. Yeah. Well, I said a bite there, but didn't take it. Did you see David? Yeah. Yeah, I caught the end of it. It was huge. Yeah. Rex. Then there's a hybrid. A saw guy. You know, across... Where they cross. Real common out in the prairie states. The reservoirs out there. So I'm a professional walleye trail championship on 9-11. After the Twin Tower thing. Actually, it happened while we were out there pre-fishing the last day. And... No way. I'm looking at my locator. It says there's no rocks down there. Good job. Good job finding a rock. That is nice. Got it. Got it. I figured that land was probably getting pretty freed. Okay. Boy. Look out now. I'm giving you one of my quarter outs. Sager. He's a shame. Yeah. Another saw guy. You know, he wasn't letting go either when he decided to hit. He just smacked it. Ooh. Nice. Our first tow in the year was Spring Valley, Illinois, on the Illinois River. Which was all usually a flood in March. They had big sawgers in there. Four or five pounders, lots of them. And we partnered with the DNR to when the females we caught, the DNR would strip the eggs from them and take them to a hatchery for restocking. Anyway. And now it's just starting to shallow up. Seems like you just get past that rock. And that's kind of the end of it. I don't know. But we just have to see. you know and that thing is full of people you think every person in America would have done this by now wouldn't you I mean it don't matter I tell you about the guy that took over my guiding out here and still little tiny boats right there on shore just you got the same boats he did back then and he would he's kind of a big guy and he was so nervous you know he was a good fisherman a good guy so he would put two customers on little boats and himself and a little whatever they are ten or fifteen or two or mortars he would start right at this point and do what's this what we're doing this is how we guided like those in this whole first year he never left the the site of the resort probably in case the motors broke down you know now I might come out and there he'd be you know I'd be out here fit yeah yeah now we're getting some saugars how bad yeah eventually he had a nice big old Ranger 200 on it not that you need that here but you know that was vast prone my promotion manager there always what she did say was well you both right here we picked up sooner than later she said but she said that when I okay yeah I get it so we've got a really decent sand bank over here try go up to the point just like we did here well see where the break is there follow it down be nice to it's a few more fish so that was 2009 winter of and so I've had this sports and some it seems better days doesn't leak more runs like a dream or stroke it was a perfect river boat for me I did some guiding out of it I went a bagel which I wasn't real comfortable then I kind of wish they had my big boat but most days out there you know just don't be stupid you know don't go out there when it's just horribly windy this can handle three-foot ways pretty nice so that's and that's all I need I'll fish big waters you know I'm fishing the Great Lakes with it so yeah it was really a really a great gift for me to have a brand new boat and had zero breakdowns other than when I hit took the lower yield around in a river I hit a stinking log in high water floated in three years something but that's not the boat's fault there's pilot air do the birds you know yeah well I was guiding bird bird watchers not on Lake Puckaway with it that's way better than guiding a fisherman birds are always there you know and you don't have to catch him he's got to see him but nobody would nobody was doing that so I'd take people out he just loved it he's got the big jigs on oh you're dog you're gonna come see me you're dirty dog yes I should have powered it up it's serious it's gotta be an insight cover no there's not people say why are you running your boat with your ball not sees it before the before the back end of the more sees it hits it you know yeah he's gonna set up there all right unless the marks and fish because he went back and forth no break his way out here just like it was down there let's start blowing here I don't think he'll care about that he doesn't know that we weren't fishing here he's not gonna come out here anyway just working that inside I don't know what this see how we got a drift we get here this goofy wind it's really hard to make a nice clean drift on it on a channel edge I'm gonna hold this straight off of that break so far so good I didn't see a few fish when I came off the brake but front of that down tree there okay he's not walleye fishing he must be fishing crappies he's using a slip bobber see how far in the shore he casted let's see this work is break down and getting his net ready I'm serious it's the Janet Murray couldn't quite get it done last night It's an opportunity, so... We'll finish them tomorrow. You guys will give you that look, Zach. You've got to have faith, man. That's a lot of faith. That kind of faith gets you into heaven. That is an awesome way back when the sports guy, any time we want to talk about something that just inexplicably went wrong, we were like... Anything that was just stupid and went wrong. That was yours. 2018, game 7, there. You can gain way to go to Boston in the World Series. And if they won, I would have went to Boston to cover him with a team. I was so bummed being that some buddies were watching the game and they lost. I'm like, yep, typical. I think the game 7 was in Milwaukee too. I forgot where they were playing. Diamondbacks? Might have been. I was at the carpet. Well, at first, they just killed them. I mean, Cubs never scored a run after that. Two or three walks. Can't do that in a wild pitch. But it was only the first inning. They definitely had plenty of chances to come back and win it. They had the runners on to do it. The bullpen was stellar. I thought the umpire was pretty interesting. Yeah. He feels fine. Yeah, I mean, seriously. Well, next year they're going to be all automated in the strike zone. Yeah. Interesting. I don't know how that will work. No, I don't either. Two fish, but... So he's jinging the wall. On one side of the boat and dragging it up. There was a few fish out in this, but there's not many. I like that better. The next one up. It's not as rocky. I would watch that a lot so then I'd just go and hold over the top of that spot and whack five and get out of there. You know, these guys would look at you like, what are you doing? Can't you see we're all drifting here? You're blocking our path. The fish are right here. Why are you drifting way down there? There's nothing down there. Wisconsin guys. You're not following the program. You've got to stay in line with everybody. I see you guys do that. The minute you waste fishing on productive water. Oh, I see. You know, you can't... During these transition times, especially, they would have never come down here in September, July, August. It's just not any fish. Usually by October it starts and it just gets better, better, better. You know, like these two cold nights. Obviously, there's almost a walleyes live there, so at least you've got an year-round part of fish compared to a river that's just contingent on current and fish movement and water temperature. But I know if I'd have taken you on the fox, it wouldn't have happened. No way. There in Montel, we had a shell that affects it. Dang it. That wasn't.