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the 11 different strains in Wisconsin and that like the stocking they really

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wanted it to be the same strain at first to me it was like seems like genetic

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diversity would be good but then yeah it makes perfect sense that this phenotype

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of walleye can do it in this lake so you gotta you don't want to mix the pot up

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really it'd be one of those that be different if you could take out the ones

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that weren't successful but once they're right you know it's right you're blind

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yeah and then you're just yeah you're at those uh those studies that like

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Lake Owen has done we talked about that and it's like it seems like not very

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successful or something but yeah in here it's interesting because it's kind of

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this like will do uh every other year DNR and then there's a local group called

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walleye's fish attack and they they're very good at fundraising they fit the

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community really well and they they're always they always have a surplus of

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money but then it's uh I know they're last round they couldn't even get

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the specific strain they couldn't get the Chippewa strain of walleye in here so

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it might be something we we work with them on but yeah this lake is pretty

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pretty solid for those numbers actually when you think about like what the fish

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costs to put in it ends up being more like that 15 to 17 dollar for the one

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that you hook rather than 600 to 1600 dollar one so this is a very it's a

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productive body of water and I've got early we usually pull in a slot while

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I air to every year without fishing really that much so it is really a healthy

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population I would say comparably to other lakes but uh yeah it is an

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interesting thing of like what what could be done to get it all all better

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the populations in general I think the biggest thing I was just uh the DNR had

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in their magazine their specials on wild rice in the state and trying to

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make it come back and it's like there's all it seems like the fish like there's

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all these reasons of like habitat loss over harvesting all the same things you

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here but they're like we don't really know what the one the main cause is I

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think it's just like these these light winters are really having effect on

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things like reproductive systems like from plants to animals whereas because

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like while I went NADF is trying to do their reproduction it's yeah there's

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some photo period and some they'll sometimes add hormones or whatever but

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the biggest thing is that temperature the decrease and then it's a sustained

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winter period and then that increase so like without without it there's just

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no you can't substitute for it and unfortunately there's no there's no

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quick fix for that right right yeah we're just gonna keep having mild winters

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which is a little bit easier on the plant side of things just because you

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know it's a little bit easier on heating a indoor growth facility or a greenhouse

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for that but yeah you just hope we doesn't have too big of impact on all of our

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populations from wild rice to walleye

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I think any time you change the system that much is going to be winners

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and losers right how you determine that will be whether you want more of what

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you're getting or if it's the thing is you want it or disappear true like it

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all of a change and killed off of skittos we could like yeah right right we're

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trying to do that for hundreds of years yeah right

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Oh I know in town that's like in when I where I was from an

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aim right there's just a stupid amount of geese and they wouldn't they wouldn't

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migrate either because we have shoreline there's a ton of houses here there's a

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ton of shoreline too but there's very little that's kind of stays protected

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and this attack chain is kind of like it's kind of a party chain sort of thing

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so there was a last summer or two summers ago right on this little island

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there was a boat that was out partying came back here and a reefed got got the

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sheriff called got everything and he was he was stuck out there for a couple

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days so it's kind of a meme on the should tech chain Facebook page this

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this pontoon just launched on that little island right there

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all right we'll we'll buzz up here so is this connected to right sleep no it's

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not it's uh I don't know if any of the creeks technically you could find the

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same water and get there but no there's something like 10 creeks that flow into

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here meadows creek very creek but yeah I don't think it has the same water

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well I chose the dogs for Z got him there would be a train yeah

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see the amount of work that goes in he really enjoys his time yeah it is it is

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a whole thing I have some family friends that go out to North Dakota and they have

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like this humongous tens of thousands of dollars trailer just for

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thought hunting it's like man that's commitment we got out on a no not that

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so you kind of just the top one it's kind of threaded through twice on the

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crawler and then leave like half of it dangling off

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you

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Go up!

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That'll look okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yep, and then you just want it when you have it back there. You just want to be able to feel that the spinner is spinning

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We can get it to about

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Trying to get it to like two and a half miles per hour might be kind of tough with a big mower

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Yeah, definitely

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Yeah, yep, he's got he's a bit in that

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sleep regression phase so waking up quite a bit due to

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teething and those things but

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Yeah, it's a

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Fatherhood's amazing. No, I can't I can't replace it and like it fixes a lot of stuff

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You're always worried about or like spending time on this and

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Whatever you need to do now as a dad. It's like it's so easy

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It's just like now I got to do it. I got to show show the kid how how it's done and

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Yeah, everything just clears up a little bit

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Down to about five feet here

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And then three

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You

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Do you have a favorite

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Approach at walleye when you're targeting them

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I grew up just jiggin leech. Yeah

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We never really did much of the cast in

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Gotcha

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Yeah, I found that when you're on

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a

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Jiggin spot

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The biggest cheat code is a spot lock with your trolling motor

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That's just makes a world of difference. We go we go up occasionally

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to Canada with my uncle and

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Me and my cousin Michael will get the camp boat with the little a 40 horsepower behind us no trolling mower motor

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So it's just like trying to stay on the spot. He's over there with his spot lock just camped out

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Show me like what do you guys it's got to get on the spot. It's like trying

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Known for good good walleye fishermen fishing, but it's also

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Pay a little bit more so big bluegill and big pike. It's probably the most commonly targeted thing

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Yes

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Yeah, if we if we don't catch anything it's because of the rain and the cold and if we catch stuff

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It's because of the rain and the cold

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It's a good efficient. It's always a good excuse. Yeah

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Well, I did yeah, I did cut it off cut off work a little bit early. I got everyone got everyone what they need to do

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They're what are you doing?

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Gotta meet with PBS Wisconsin

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Yeah, right and yeah, they wanted to go fishing so

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You

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You've been out to your property yet this fall

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Nice pretty muted colors

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Gotcha were you working on trails or setting up cameras or anything? Yeah

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We it's so dry

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I had

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Couple nice bucks. It's a bill coming through my new standard back marsh

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Oh, so I don't know if it's just been so dry and so hot

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We have a cricket runs to the background property

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Game and up up just north of me as soon as it freezes over it changes from up

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They'll cross the creek and once it freezes over it goes down about a half mile and then right there

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There's just deer all of the time once it once that happens

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My uncle is the adjoining 80 and his

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woods and some marsh and some cribs, but

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It's pretty more a little more consistent than ours ours is entirely to try to know what how high the water is gotcha

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The beaver or in screw it something up then all of a sudden changes right, so we really have to pay it

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I criticize hunters who are dear. Don't seem to do anymore. So the ones the last time you check your stance. Yeah, right

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Yeah

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And those uh those marshes that can kind of go in between being very flooded and not

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And being pretty dry that really changes it too because if there's like

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If it dries up and it's truly like you can walk on it

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That's a great deer bedding area and they love it whereas like if it comes back up

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For whatever reason beavers or anything else. They can't they can't sleep in there. It's gonna be a lot different

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Yeah, that's what we have that ship will come

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Right now we get rains for a week where they're running out. We'll change completely by the time I go on

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Yeah, right

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I don't get too excited of what I see or don't see this time of year. Yeah

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Yeah, it changes and

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Yep

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Yep

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What neighbor shot the ten point block I was after

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I

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That was us last year. There's there's like a hundred and fifty

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Right across a public land right across from my brother-in-law's property and the two nice bucks for a watchin

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What's up? I'm on Facebook like within two weeks of the season. I

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Bet it's a tough was a tough early season for bear

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Just because the acorn like as soon as it was seasoned acorns like that

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Daughters

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Nice nice

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Okay

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Gotcha

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Oh

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So

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Really I both spots are just a little both they knew something happened

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Right and like if you got a

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The effort to get all your bait out there to another whole walk to get to a spot

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You want the trail usually it'll support one route out in the you go twice you're gonna sink gotcha

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It's it what's that like yeah boggy kind of

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There's just enough muck in there that if we want to we need to get back there we can but we can't run

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Gotcha

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How is the

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just all the

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Info collecting and everything for the walleye series going

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Yeah, this is our last week for

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Crazy move to bail out Argentinian soybeans to me crazy

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Depends on how deeply you want to read into the context of who actually benefit the most

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It was so it's something to do with like geopolitical and like Argentina has some claim on oil somewhere something like that

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So the Argentinian prison president that just got elected yeah came in on a very similar to Trump populist reform

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reduced like they're trying to make our

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Allies just whoever has similar policies to us and like form of government at this given time, which is wild

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Not historically it's not really what that's what no

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All right, I think yeah, if we want to roll it in here, we'll

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We'll go back that way and just go out a little bit farther to get it just slightly deeper

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you

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You know because with that rain cool down dropping very metric pressure they're gonna be 10 to 11 feet maybe

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Are you much of an ice fisherman

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Right out there kids again

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Here's and the thing about me, they're very curious still

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Yeah, yeah, maybe that can be a good and a bad thing I guess

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Is that like spinning in the water finally yeah

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I feel that just that little vibration yep

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This would be should be a little bit better going against the wind we get more like 2.4 miles an hour which would be a little bit better

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There's still a few small cabins out here yep, yeah, and there's a lot of

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Some of these resorts to where you see like they have that thing going on

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They're kind of parsing those off now because you know you can you can sell something like that for a buck 50 now

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So it kind of kind of can pay

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Yep

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Nothing

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And then they're all bought up by an LLC

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You

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You guys been to the Ashland co-op

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Yeah

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It's a it's a it's kind of like the grocery store in town in Ashland. It's really really nice. We do business with them

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Yeah, just get a nice deli and stuff kind of surprise you wouldn't necessarily expect it, but yeah, it's a really nice little grocery store

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The other thing I've been meaning to do in Ashland is they have that little

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On the so when you're coming in you go past the

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Just coming into town you pass the big spit the beach everything right in the beat on the beach front

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There's a little well house within our t-shirt well there

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I keep meaning it's like I think we got to move the operation up there. That sounds like good water

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According to the mayor

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Okay, gotcha

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It's very proud of it and he's very angry at the state because they built a new water treatment facility for prison instead of buying water from town

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He wanted that to be something with some payback

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Yeah, currently years ago like they had water issues

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Had to sink money into the system. Yeah, it's a rated as like about drinking water

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See a little movie magic. Yep

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Yeah, pretty much the only structure on this whole chain because if you notice there's like no weeds basically

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It's all kind of fallen logs. This might actually be a crib right there

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There's quite a bit of effort done to get structure here, but

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I

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I'm sure at the diver kid have a good day down there

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Did you

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Story so yeah, I can do about

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All right, maybe I'll just do one thing at a time

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Oh

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So do you use a leader for northern out here? Yeah, if I was targeting them for sure

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Yeah, those crawler harnesses are kind of notorious for being bitten off

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You guys gonna listen to the brew game on the way back

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Yeah, although I

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I'm always conflicted as a fan

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During the playoffs because I don't follow them enough during the regular season

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I feel like such a fan wagon jump. So I always I always feel bad. Yeah, we should listen to it

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Well, if it's that or that CD you brought

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How old is this van what you guys got CD?

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There's no phone connection

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Especially when you're driving to Ashland like you're just going in between one to two bars the whole time yep

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That looks like the fish on the bottom

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Little arc

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No, that's how's calling if you know who's the hardest

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You're from rice lake. Yeah, well, I'm not how far is comedy

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Yeah, usually Zach and I just sit in silence

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You know, we'll talk about but we never listen to music on radio

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Do you guys do like when you're driving alone will you do ghost silent? Yeah, I think it's good sometimes

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It is good, you know, see what your thoughts are at where your pets at, you know

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Might have had a tick there might have

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No, I agree sometime when it's when it's the you need to think through something. Yeah, I just shut everything off

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Because you only get so many opportunities like that's what we're hoping they're stacked up in

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So to see you've got the rod over it is going to use it

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Yeah, it's like to feel it if I I'll find myself going in between too many things if I have to watch this

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So just having it a

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Feel thing helps me a little bit

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Yeah

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Yeah, I just was up at an ADF

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Last week to pick up some we order fish food together save on some save on some shipping

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I

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Know it's always good to get up there, but one of their managers owns a kind of apple or chured farm with a tap house

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They do ciders and stuff the houses farm and that's just north of an ADF or kind of

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More into the peninsula a little bit, but you get up there and have a great view of Lake Superior

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That was a that was a nice time

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Well, she's out on maternity though, right? Yep. Yeah, I just had her hazel

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Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, so it sounded like just talked to her a little bit Emma and sounds like everything's going good

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So that's funny though. You have a kid and it's like feels like everybody's having a kid all of a sudden

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Which is awesome. You love the

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Misery loves company is the wrong way to say it, but

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That's what usually happens especially for your first scene if you find a baby group. Yeah, it's all first-time parents, right?

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I don't know if you're

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Not not super we do have like within our friend group. There is like another

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pregnancy and

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Another my other partner just has a eight-month-old daughter, so we're kind of have a few people right around

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Usually it's like if you take like the birthing class

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Mm-hmm. You meet people there. Yeah

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Like if you in Madison, there's like all sorts of different like where the place stores that have stuff just for those moms

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Gotcha

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And so they're going to meet all the other expected moms. They're all first time. Yeah

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like

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Actually from my daughter

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She was at a cross-country meet last week and we ran into one of the other kids that

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Like I've seen since he was a baby in that group gotcha

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Yeah, it's gotta be night like just the developmental stages and like well

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Where is where's yours at? You know, are they taking solid food yet? All those little things?

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You

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Is there any sort of

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I worry about, you know, just funding everything the ship being able to run and

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Yeah

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Yeah, so we're better off than some places

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The question is what's left and what can we do and does that create the death spiral?

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That you saw or you seen in newspapers

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Quality, you know, people go down quality goes down then who wants to listen

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Yeah, we'll just kind of punch through here and then we'll

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We'll get over to that other troll

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All right, you know, you'll get hit by a bluegill and half of it's gone or something, but

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Yeah, yeah, probably probably a good time done

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And then we'll buzz over to the other one

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I

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Also had a

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Gosh, I forget her name. She's also with PBS

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Wisconsin, I'm pretty sure the hope in the water series

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You know, that is that