Fourteen and eight.
Fourteen and nine.
No clip.
Try the rest of the sink.
Eight, five.
We will take that and then we're good on the eight.
No clip.
Five, seven.
We will take that.
Thanks.
I'm assuming they haven't stocked anything.
I don't think they had.
Eric, did you say?
Yeah. Okay.
We're going to do it next week or so.
Five, seven.
We will take that.
Thanks.
I'm assuming they haven't stocked anything.
I don't think they had.
Eric, did you say?
Okay.
We're going to do it next week or so.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Is that what they told you?
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe they should be next week and then right click does upper sink for the weekend.
Okay.
The lake?
Oh, really?
I didn't know they stocked that.
Did they get up on the outside there?
Nope.
No, I just stabbed this though.
It's fine.
It's bleeding all the way.
I don't know why they had it.
It's just a flash of blood.
Yeah.
Five, two.
Did you say you got to see them feed the ones that they're going to stock out next week?
Um, they're right click.
Yeah.
They're going to see them grow.
All about ones for the other lake.
Okay.
How did that go?
Did you get some good footage?
Well, Lance says that they usually do a lot of the activities at night or in the morning.
Oh, so it's hard to, yeah.
So we got to see the, the minnows go in.
Yeah.
But you didn't get to see a feast.
Yeah, I hear that's what happens.
That river has a hatchery too.
They raised walleye embers.
Nine, two.
Get on that.
Yeah.
No, good.
Usually not that active midday.
It's going in.
Edo.
You take that.
Brandon's like, yep.
To work like, to work with walleye, you must become like a walleye.
Yeah.
Yeah, active at night.
It must be walleye.
Yeah.
It's sleep midday.
Yeah.
Next year you're right.
It's got a hole.
Feed at night.
Gone and dusk usually.
I almost see a fire.
That's good.
You guys, there are endpoints just around that point, isn't it?
There's a bridge over there.
Is that where you're going to?
I think so.
Yeah.
Another mile, mile and a half.
Oh yeah, cause we don't go all the way down.
I don't think so.
I can't remember.
I remember starting at night.
I don't think it goes all the way down.
Cause we don't do this out until we're right.
No.
I could look it up on my phone I think.
Cause you re-nailed it, didn't you?
Oh yeah.
I'll look it up for you.
If I remember, I thought that's...
We're good on those.
To that bridge.
It's over here.
I don't know if I'm going to get enough service.
Try.
Did you find it?
Oh, you are going to do some West Shore, huh?
Alright.
Actually, most of the West Shore.
Yeah, in the island.
Okay, so pretty much just in the Pains Island.
That looks like it's in there.
Yeah, so there's another creek down there, I think.
We're good on that.
That's how serious it.
Yeah.
It could have just been a bus for the ones they put in.
Yeah.
It's the ones that he's stocking in this year he's going to do right and left
propellant versus mineral, right?
I think so, yeah.
Oh, and I think he has other years too.
Okay.
So maybe that's...
Maybe one treatment didn't survive.
Well, I can't remember.
How you been?
Yeah, you too.
Yeah, I know.
It's super exciting.
I don't know.
I hope so.
No, I've been there.
Yeah, it's awesome.
I've been pumped.
I've been talking this thing up to everybody in Nevada.
It was the coolest thing ever.
I can't.
How is it out there?
Usually, but pretty good.
Pretty good so far.
It's got a couple of handles so far.
So, towards getting my A-B.
This is bad for you.
Because you can get through with just field experience.
So, I've been working pretty hard at that.
Nice.
Really, really cool.
We're on that green lake project.
I don't know if you've heard about that at all.
I heard, no.
It's transmission line for Vegas Torino.
It's a six-year project.
Okay.
It'll be pretty fun, but...
I'll be trying to make it back for more of this as often as I can.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
You see lots of tortoises out there?
Yeah.
Are they big?
Yeah.
Actually, you want to see them.
Sure.
Yeah.
I want to see how big these battles are.
So, they range.
Like, I found like an 88-millimeter.
Like, just a little, little fella.
I mean, there's two, I guess.
Hold on.
Most people that are technically part of other offices.
Oh, sure.
Basically, you know.
Oh.
Man, that's such a big change when I was there.
When I was there, I thought you started...
Yeah.
This was a super grumpy female.
That's what I was telling the story about.
Oh, yeah.
I really wanted to get on to the construction pad, but we wouldn't let her.
So, she just kind of stared on Grouchy.
Yeah.
She just sat there like that for a while.
We got...
When there was that big rattle.
This baby rattle thing.
Oh, my pinky.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
That's really zoomed in.
Wow.
Yeah.
No.
The rattle didn't even grow.
Girl.
Because they'll eat anything as long as it has moisture in it.
Okay.
Process it.
Yeah.
No, they're super fun.
That's how they get water.
Yeah.
They just eat dirt or cactus.
Yeah.
Like after a rain, if there's a lot of moisture in the soil, they'll just eat it.
Wow.
It's really goofy.
Yeah.
A little cruiser.
All the way back around.
Ben came into the burp.
Oh.
He's like, well, I found this myself.
Oh.
They're a really big part.
They have really big personalities, but they're really dumb.
And it's...
They're just really goofy to all of them.
He was like, I'm not going...
I'm not going where you put me.
Exactly.
Everyone's doing everything.
Yeah.
Or just checking to see if there's a better spot.
Yeah.
Better burl.
Here's that baby.
There's a lot of little things.
Like with the brook trout.
I don't know if that gives you any idea of its size.
It's tiny.
Really, really small juvenile.
Harbor brook trout.
Oh.
That was super cool.
Yeah.
It's all exciting.
Super fun to see all the wildlife out there.
A lot of wild donkeys.
Those things are crazy.
No fun.
Just all over the place by Parampen.
I just saw that guy.
Not on project, but a camel got out.
Oh, really?
Nobody wants to go near it.
They just see it off in the distance.
What do they do?
If you go near it.
Oh, there's that.
There's also two ostriches running around up there.
I don't know where they came from.
They got out of some private ownership.
Something that was really funny though,
because to my knowledge,
they still haven't caught any of the animals.
They're just kind of...
They're just running around.
They're just all summer months.
What you guys are doing is...
Just whatever we're doing.
Okay.
That's fine.
I mean, this is...
You just have to let us know.
We just have to let us know if there's something...
Yeah.
We just have to realize tonight.
Yeah.
Should we dip also?
Maybe.
It's juvenile survey right now, but if...
If there's opportunities...
If there's opportunity...
Yeah.
You dip the big ones too.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think you...
I'm sorry, I didn't introduce myself yet.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I'm ready to make it up.
You guys...
Cliff Lick?
Yeah.
I haven't met already.
She's a star.
Nine miles.
And then if we...
Do you have other mics too?
Because if I'm driving this boat, you might want to get some sound from their boat when
they're dipping.
You're not going to have to be as if you think it's on.
Oh, sure.
It's like narrate what we're seeing and then like just seeing it naturally.
Yeah.
Sometimes it's with the sound.
Sometimes the background.
Sure.
The sound of everything happening is what we're looking for.
Yeah.
Usually the...
The narration's for me.
Oh, sure.
Later on when I'm like, what the hell is it looking at here?
It's usually somewhere in one of the...
The commentary of the tracks.
I can go, okay.
That's what he's describing.
Oh, sure.
Make sure my notes are accurate.
Yeah.
I mean, there...
It's Joel.
He's still there.
Yeah.
And we've got him in the first layer of the way.
It's where I am right now.
Hi, I'm Mark.
We've met before.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Is it Ted?
Yeah.
Anyway, all right.
He was down here.
Is that Mark?
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyway, I'll stop over after.
Okay.
All right.
See ya.
See ya, buddy.
I screwed up.
Why's that?
Well, I was gonna meet him here.
Oh.
And...
Anyways, the long story.
I just got up today.
Oh, okay.
And who's our...
Fisheries biologist?
Oh, the new one?
Nate.
Oh, yeah.
He's here.
We've got a new one at Giffwood, too.
Oh.
Brandon here is...
All right.
I'm gonna turn into this document.
I've pulled him.
We'll take him here now.
Yeah.
That's the three years.
But in the middle of it, I'm still doing...
How many boats you got?
We've got three.
It's the night.
Nice.
Yeah.
And then we've got a PBS Wisconsin film crew.
It's gonna come up, too.
Yeah, I get it.
They went out with Mike yesterday fishing.
Yeah.
Well, that's a good thing.
Yeah.
So we were in Jamfield talking with someone from soy beetle line.
It's good and many reasons.
Just to put some more knowledge in people who...
Yeah, we travel everywhere.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
It's good.
This is the only one doing it.
But it's getting better.
Yeah.
When I give him your crayon.
He's like, why don't you go up here and over here?
And he's got it drawn out there.
Oh, God.
He...
He is into it.
But he's very knowledgeable for a layman.
Actually, Mike.
Yeah, he's been good to work with.
Oh, he's done it.
He's...
Well, all of you guys have created a nice situation.
I don't know.
I...
I help him a lot.
I don't even fish.
I come across over here.
So where are you guys all going tonight?
I didn't think you were coming.
Well, I wasn't initially, but they...
That's awesome.
What a crazy change from Tigers to Turkey.
Yeah, I don't know how she did it.
And she ended up in the USDA.
Huh?
That's wild.
Yeah.
Well, everyone does different things.
Oh, yeah.
You know me?
I sold Scotch tape.
That's how I know Mike.
Oh.
Okay.
It's passionate.
You know, it's different.
Holy shit.
It's pretty good right about it.
There's only so many left for it.
Honestly.
They're doing well with the French.
They're doing well with the pressure being on.
Everybody watching them load their boat.
Yeah, yeah.
Trailer backing is good.
Now you hit the trailer perfectly.
I can't watch those things.
It's a species.
Probably back up the whole side.
I don't throw car batteries in you.
Yeah.
Oh.
They made that thing in this truck.
Have you tried?
It does look...
It does look pretty sturdy.
Oh, is he going to get something?
Oh.
Did you get that?
Yeah, you got it.
Oh.
Look at that.
I don't know what he got.
Oh, fish.
That was awesome.
Yeah.
Pretty...
Hold that.
It's...
But it's like...
Oh, shoot time.
It's a videographer.
They got to like...
Spray in the camera.
Focus the camera.
Put the camera.
Yeah.
So it feels awkward.
You're saying just hold that fish for 10 seconds.
Yeah.
So there's a lot of...
When you're just watching, you can go,
Oh, he's getting great stuff.
But it could be that...
Oh, the full distance.
Or it's a little off.
Yeah.
Oh.
That's a little off.
Yeah.
Just...
You come back and you hope you have enough.
You don't really know until you actually see it.
Yeah.
Well, it's good to just get a lot.
Yeah.
That's kind of the name of the game.
Yeah.
Get a ton of footage and...
We call it a...
Spray and pray.
Okay.
Yeah.
As much as you can.
I hope a little bit.
Yup.
As Zach likes hearing that too.
Yeah.
It's my favorite.
I like...
Oh, great.
It's great.
A target rich environment.
Something's gonna happen.
All right.
That's good.
It's only the camera pictures actually.
Oh, scary yesterday.
This is where I'm just out of the post.
This is pretty fast in the first bed.
been back in trailers for 40 years. Yeah? Where were you crab?
What the f***?
I'm going to get you.
What the f***?
What do you think?
Oh, yeah.
It's cool. And then, you know, the diversity of the job, like,
the stuff and the trout stuff, habitat work.
Yeah. Actually Bayfield, you get dog-less to England.
There's a lot of different stuff there.
Yeah, the diversity of the period.
Do you still do you still see Josh slasher? Yeah, once in a while. Okay. Yeah, he's a good friend of mine. Yeah, cuz I worked with Josh. Oh, yeah, when you were at Fish and Wildlife, you would have seen him. Yeah, yeah, he was the the M.O.C.C.
Right big region now. Yeah, he just he switched to that like a year and a half ago or something. Yeah, I think he likes it last I talked to him about it.
Yeah, that's a big change for him too. Right. Yeah. Yeah, cuz he's been there at Fish and Wildlife for quite a while too. I think that was 2010 or 11. Yeah, probably years after I got up here, he came up here.
He was in Missouri and Kansas for school and stuff for a while, but I think he was a great school. Actually, yeah, we were in fourth grade together. Oh, wow. Yeah, fourth, fifth, sixth, and then I went to different school and then we were high school buddies and went to Stephen's Point.
Done by Madison. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, okay. I knew he was, yeah, I'm down that area. Yeah, that's it. Oh, you guys go way back. Yeah, yeah, way, way back. Yeah, we room together at Stephen's Point for a couple of years.
Let's tell you don't room it. Stephen or roommate puts a strain on it after a while, cuz you're just different, you know, and you do different stuff. I know each other, but yeah, it was a good time. Yeah.
Yeah. That's it? Yeah, I haven't run into him since I've been back. I've seen some of the other guys from the Fish and Wildlife office, Mike Sider.
You want to hold on? Yeah, but yeah, I haven't seen Josh yet. He's around. Yeah, I haven't seen him lately either.
He's probably doing all the trainings all over the place. I think he travels a lot now for trainings and stuff.
Yeah. That's good. That's kind of up his alley, too. He was when I was there in 2019.
I was impressed with his boating. I mean, he's good with boats and he's the right guy for
instructing people on that. Yeah. He's good at it.
Have you been getting out on some surfers? Sure, not too much. I've made one so far.
This will be the second time when I'm not even going to be surveying. I'm just kind of like
cart the crew around and hear it. What's happening? Yeah, so that's a change, too.
Yeah.
I said, if we had enough crew leaders, then I would kind of like do a week or two, but not the whole
season. And now this year is hardly over. Yeah. Yeah. We got, so we probably broke up the office
boat out.
He's got a schedule with four. And we're like
Box was no, like, oh, we never light plug and we can have a strap for the boat. You know, like
everything is not. Hasn't been used for. Pulled together. Yeah, Jackson was out there.
Oh, no, we got to get back. Yeah, they made it. They took 169, which is close.
Went down that way because if you're out in Odina, it'll actually tell you
faster to go that way than to go back through Ashland. It was faster still.
I mean, yeah, they've been put in a new culvert by Lake three, too. And I've gotten
drove all the way there, trying to get to mineral. Back on the melon.
Yeah, but
did you guys get much? They got a bunch. Yeah, it's good and are out there. And there's a bunch of
Yeah, honestly, let's say zeros is what they said. Oh, okay. It's nine, 10s, 11s, but the water's
so dark there. How far could you see? Yeah, she is seeing. Yeah, no, six inches, maybe.
Too much of that. The lighting we have.
No, but there, there were a lot of
That looks like he's got it though. That's a tight corner.
He's gonna have to straighten out anyway.
Once you get too far over, you can't
can't pull it back straight. Oh, he's got it though. It's impressive. Good effort.
I'm getting a little too close. I need some space to back off.
There they go.
You guys met Charlie, our PIO director. Tall guy. He was going the day we were there. Oh, okay.
Oh, you saw him on the call, maybe. He's on the call. Yeah, but he always says he doesn't.
Like he will call and email me. Like, we need to talk. We need to talk. And every time I call
him, he wouldn't answer. Oh, and then like the day we showed up, he wasn't there. I was like,
what's so urgent that you're flipping out over. And then what we just want to talk about how
you're going to cover this. Maybe now we're going to cover it. He's had a bunch of different stuff
going on. Get right up into something like someone else's book. No, no scratch. Oh, yeah.
I mean, I was at all work boats, so.
All right. Do you guys need any more footage down here? I think we're good with that. Okay.
I'm going to run up and use the bathroom real quick.
Okay.
Acoustic telemetry antennas out there. Yeah. And so it's nice to have a decent size boat for out there.
We had used some other boats that were smaller and
that doesn't work as well out there. It's a Winnebago size. If you're familiar with it or not, but it's
so it's substantial enough that a nice deep view like this, you feel a lot safer doing work out there.
It's deeper than Winnebago, right? Yeah, I think it's like 40 at the deepest.
A lot of it's like 25 to 30 feet. I think Winnebago is a lot of 15 to 20. Yeah, yeah.
I should say for reference too, there's life jackets in the compartments up there.
You don't. Okay, so you don't necessarily have to wear them, but just so you know where they're
at in case we have some kind of and even crazy happens.
Here's the crew.
You can see our other boat up there on the point. Yep.
They're going to do a little stretch along this point and then come down here in shock.
Some of this main shoreline back towards the landing.
Hey guys, it's a good word.
Oh, yeah, on the left side. Yeah, I could see it was a red. Yeah, you probably need a taller one.
You got courtesy lights though. Look at that. It's just like an LED rope string underneath the
that's pretty fancy. That's all you need. Whoops, my light is falling off.
You probably do it better.
Yeah, you would have had that on that. You had it backwards.
Oh, we don't we don't expect you. Nice.
Amateur. So you guys going to cruise up this way. Okay.
Yeah, do we want to do that now and then we can get footage of us going on the tank and stuff.
Let's get the point. I'm sure that sounds good. Yeah.
Okay.
Hey, you guys picked a nice name for doing this. Oh, it's amazing. Yep. Yeah.
Yeah, it probably doesn't always work out this way. Does it tell me outdoors? No.
We can get them taken off of you. Sure. Just pause for a bit. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah.
No.
No, I'm getting that 10 pounds, sure, ah, it's a pretty good cake.
I don't know if I'm doing this, you know, I don't know, or if I run into another guy
that won't even run in it, or 10 pounds or right, but what can I say?
I've done this, I've done this.
How's it going, bro?
Nice.
I think we're good.
You guys ready to put on the show here?
Yeah.
How's this angle?
You okay?
Let's see, I get closer.
This is fine space.
Okay.
Thank you.
Is that good?
Here I go.
Oops.
So they're putting the droppers on right now, which go on to the, on to the end of the boom,
and they'll swing those booms around and pull them out front.
Electricity comes out of the droppers and goes into the water.
It's the, that's the anode side and then cathode is the boat.
So these are DC shockers, direct current, pulsed.
So you'll see them spread these out and then swing them around to the front.
Let's see if I can spin us just a hair.
Kind of got us in Rick's way here.
There we go.
Put the netheads on the poles and then they're going to fill the tank with water.
Then they'll pretty much be ready to dip fish.
You can see they got the generator on the side there, that's the Honda.
That puts the, there's a power cord that runs current from the generator into that blue box.
That's right by the steering wheel over there.
And that's, that's what controls the amount of power that he puts out.
So he'll adjust those settings to stun fish but not hit them too hard.
You want to be able to stop them but have them recover really quickly once you shock them.
So once you've netted them and put them in the tank.
So he'll kind of monitor that as they go to, you know, to see like are these fish getting hit really hard or are they,
are they missing a lot of fish because they're not getting it hard enough.
There's kind of a balance you got to find there.
That's what he's going to be watching for.
Yeah, he wouldn't like to do this.
I can't do this.
Well, he's just a guy.
I think it's crazy.
Yeah, he's a bunch of crazy.
Ha ha ha.
Any favorite thing, the person puts their names in the current program?
No, it's really funny.
Yeah, I hate that.
Yeah, I thought I could get full.
It's really important.
Ha ha ha ha.
You can see it through up.
Ha ha ha.
He's putting an aerator on there now.
It just spins and mixes the water, puts bubbles on the top, keeps the oxygen up.
And that plugs into the generator too.
So it's got constant power.
No, that's a light.
Ha ha ha ha.
It's a bright one.
Not too much.
Ha ha ha.
I'm going to get over the full blockage today.
It's lighting too.
Ha ha ha.
Come on.
It looks like he's just by me being out here.
Ha ha ha ha.
I'm Zach's earning his pay up there.
Yeah, I don't know where he came out.
Yeah.
Ha ha ha.
Brandon's scanning the sky for stars.
You really like to say there's a six star rule.
But once you see the six star, then you start shocking.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
But it's too cloudy tonight.
So we can't really see.
Ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Yeah.
Behind him pick them all up.
He's right there.
Yeah.
Like don't bother.
Oh, are they too stunned?
I don't know if a study like that.
That'd be interesting.
I think it would take long to get hungry after that.
Ha ha ha ha.
Yeah, somebody may have done that study.
I just am not aware of it if it's been done.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Well, proof of that.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
I would tell you the safety.
Yeah, then they'd be ready if that's the case.
They'd be eaten right away.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
I'm skeptical on that one.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha a.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
This is fun this is fun.
This is good.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
You can see the flashing light on the box there, that means the power is on.
And you can hear the beep, there's actually a big piece of electrical tape over the beep
or otherwise it's really loud and annoying, yeah, yeah, even for the driver it's annoying
too.
It's good to know that the power is on, but I don't know, I'll get turned here.
You can sit there, you can just blast someone's light, just get a reach, yeah, it's just
on, otherwise it's blown out from way too high as my eyes, so, here, let's turn this
on.
Oh, yeah, I feel like it's about to get something, I'll take this out.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, so, yeah, they shot something there, it might have been a sucker, I couldn't get
I couldn't get a real good look at it, or maybe a bass.
It took about 10 to 15 inches.
Something in that range.
Kind of a weedy bay, a lot of times I earned a ton of walleyes.
Up in the weedy bays this time of year.
He's going to go around these reeds up here.
Kind of like the middle one.
I'm going to go around these reeds up here.
So, they'll be six feet fixed per month.
And here will be photo shoot for us.
Come see the other boat, oh there he dipped one, maybe, there he goes, what do we got, that
must be a walleye, right down on the point, looked like about a 12 or 13 inch
picture, right on the edge of the range they're going for.
I mean that can estimate, as we saw last night, the size of estimation skills of walleye
is very good, not very good, so now they're going to measure him, look for fin clips, he's
going to tally the measurement and then they'll take a scale sample for aging if it's under
12 inches to see if it's an age 0 or 1 or a 2, yep we're going back, 14 or even half
clips, non-formative clips, yep we've got this central fin, so they removed it as the
left ventral, they removed the left ventral fin so they could identify that as a fish
that they stocked, so they removed it when it was small, that would have been Mike and
the crew there and the NADF folks, so that's one that they stocked probably 3 or 4 years ago,
can I get you just pretending like you're writing something down, this fish will get him
something right down there, I just want to get both of the ashes, yep, thanks, appreciate it,
you might be hiding that in your head, oh yeah I did, I'm just getting cozy, this will take us,
this would be a scaler, nice, so they're going to get a scale sample off of this one for age
estimation, 10.1, 10.1, no clips, no clips, so then you know that's a naturally
reproduced fish, which is actually really what we want, you know it's good if
stocked fish are surviving but ideally we want a lot of natural fish out here,
doing it on their own.
Well that's a good work though.
It was a couple of muskies by that dock with them guys, did you guys tell them
about it, did they see any? It was right after they asked. Could they see it or no?
Yeah the water business, not what we've been used to the last couple of weeks.
Yeah a lot of the other lakes it was really really clear. Oh green? It's a little green,
that's a little green, easy being green you know. That's it, that's it, all right now they're
going to cut across.
Do you think we can be out in the head just a little bit, so we're kind of shooting.
Sure, yeah, yeah can try that. Obviously we don't want to get in the shocking or
not. Some of this shoreline is good for spawning in the spring where the adults come. You can
see it's kind of rocky up there. I wouldn't say it's the main area but there's definitely a few
that are on this point spawning usually.
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I might have missed it, oh he got one.
Oh is this a decent angle?
Yeah, it's good, yeah.
Just cruise along a little.
Nope.
There's a model with a good paint.
There not much left.
The third thing is an engineer.
What is wrong?
Yeah.
He's got a log coming.
I got to be sure not to trap him in here with this tree.
He's got space maker.
Yeah.
That tree probably fell this summer, you can see there's still green needles on it.
Oh yeah, you can see where it broke up there on shore.
Oh yeah, you can see where it broke up there on shore, you can see where it broke up there on shore.
So usually the goal for the driver is to stay up as shallow as you can without hitting rocks.
Yeah, you'll see he's adjusting that wheel kind of constantly.
It works best in like three feet or less.
You know, you can shock fish that are down four or five feet if the power is up high enough, but it doesn't hold them very long a lot of times.
If they've got a way to escape to deeper water, they will.
So it's kind of a near shore method to sample for sure.
The piers actually kind of make it a little harder to, you know, stay where you want to.
Yeah, it is.
So, Zach, do you get lots of earfuls when you tell people that you need political reporting?
They either have a lot of questions or no questions.
They're just like, oh, don't want to talk at all about it.
I can see like when you tell people that you're kind of like your guard's up a little bit, you know, like you're ready for whatever they're for anything.
Yeah, but you just don't know what's coming as soon as you say that.
Yeah.
It's a crazy time.
You know, the same as they tell someone he works in the DNR.
Right.
There's always going to be a reaction.
Yeah.
Everyone's got an opinion.
Sure.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, about politics or about the DNR or about, yeah.
They're quite the same as both people right during the film.
They're like, what's this like?
Yeah.
They're kind of like, is that like the DNR?
What is that?
You tell them about it.
There's a little light in the driver.
So, everyone's their own personal expert on politics.
Yeah.
And, you know, they're about to be.
Right.
True.
The worst is when you talk to legislators.
Some of them, which have been at the Capitol for a while, are in leadership positions.
And you're like, no, I'm right.
Like I'm there when that happens.
You're not like, oh, no, that's not, you know,
I don't know, that's not what, I don't need to argue with him, it's just one of us, it's right.
They'll just argue about facts of something?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, I guess I'm not that surprised, but...
No, some of it just needs to do it, you know, now.
I can't see that much.
I don't know what it's going to look like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know what it looks like, I don't know
what it looks like, I don't know what the world looks like, I don't know what it looks like, not
you know, it looks like what thip-p Can't say anything about what it looks like, it'll be
It's kind of known for that not huge numbers, but big size
These read edges aren't really great juvenile walleye habitat
they tend to like sand flats or like
smaller gravelly areas
But you can catch some along these types of spots
Part of the index station, so the idea is to do the same station every year and then you get a standard
So it's not all prime habitat, but
If you're seeing
At some point if you adjust the timing of the survey, then you dramatically impact
its reliability over time. Right. Yeah, it can change the reliability of the surveyor of how comparable it can be over the years
Then it'll be about the same for that time period. It's just our older older data won't be as comparable
There's a big fish it looks like a musky I think
He's gonna have a hard time getting that in the net if you
For the big ones you got to get them in the head first because all the weight is in the head in the front
If you get the tail end first and try to lift it up it just comes
So
So if you're taking an average though
It's kind of crazy how much of that's impacted by
human
Like the quality of the driver and the quality of the net oh in experience when a beach you can dramatically impact your data
Yeah
Yeah, there's big variability that gets added that way, you know
You hope over time it kind of washes out, but it's it's true. You got some
Some nettors are really aggressive
And that's what you want all your nettors to be like, but they just aren't all that way and some are really good at
They can catching the movement seeing the fish getting after them right away and others are kind of like is that a lot?
Oh, it's too late, you know
Yeah
Yeah, so these fall data can get pretty variable that way cuz what we do is
Take catch per mile of shoreline
And yeah, so it's affected a lot by good driver good netter or bad driver bad netter
Most of them are somewhere in between but
But
But at least you get an indication of is there a year-class there or not, you know, are you seeing age 0s? Are you seeing age 1s?
Typically even if you don't have a good driver and a good netter you're still gonna catch some if they're there
Nice part about a lake like this is we got three crews out so
If one crews really good one crews really bad one crews in the middle and it kind of evens itself out, too
In our spring ones where we're actually estimating the population the adult population
It's less affected by that the only problem is you it takes longer if you don't have good nettors
Because you do a mark recapture estimate
So the idea is you mark a whole bunch of fish with a fin clip
Then you come back and shock the whole shoreline and figure out what proportion are marked of the whole shoreline
So say you mark 20 and let's a small lake you mark 20 you go around you shock the whole shoreline
You catch 40 and or catch 20 and 10 of them are marked
You would estimate that the 20 you marked are half the population
Because half of what what you captured was marked and so then your estimate would be 40
That's basically how the math works is pretty simple that way
So if your nettors and dippers aren't as good you mark fewer, but your ratio would just be lower than
But you get better you still get better
Measures of uncertainty if you have better a bigger recapture sample and more fish mark to begin with
But at least it doesn't bias the estimate
Doesn't cause the error to be one way or the other it just causes more variability in it
True yeah
Right the red bowls and mountain news
A lot of caffeinated beverages get consumed during this type of work
Yeah in a better spot here
She's gonna do here I think he's gonna
Oh, yeah, he's got a little bay here. He's gonna keep shocking through
I'm just gonna park here for a second because he's a he doesn't have far to go up that way
Yeah, my younger brother went into a similar field he did it. He's got a media arts degree. He went to Bethany
Bethany Lutheran College
Scaler
Gonna be in a hopper shot you need just
We can take a second. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm good here. Good. Okay. Thank you
Look at that extra light we need one of those for the work
Let's get the stand with that light on there now you can really see that board
Be great when the water business Rick and Rick, can you come back a little bit so he can see? Yeah
To
Yeah
Did they do a mercury cap out here because that's what that looks like. Yeah
They fin clips they fin clipped stocked fish fish that they stocked
But did they I mean like this one? That one doesn't look like it's
It's like a half clip. It's like a half clip. Yeah, they were saying I
Would write it down as a half clip and then we can figure out later if they gave half clips
Keep them separate from the full clips, maybe
Oh
No
13 six
That's a rough one no clips. How's the camera? How's the car? You're fired
Pretty much all went
By the station across town. Oh, all right. You're like fine. I'll go to the rival station
No clips
Nine six take it no clips
Take a bite
14 one
Another
It's obviously regen. I don't know if you want to call it a full clip full over here. Yeah
14 to eight L would be
10 1 I
You can toss that one.
Looks like another half.
I mean, it's regenerative.
It's regenerative you can tell it was clipped.
It's all wavy.
At least I would think it would be done.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's like where the line is, where the rays are broken.
I haven't called it an L.D.
Yeah, an L.D.
And you said we don't need scales?
Nope, that one.
13-3.
Looks kind of the same thing.
I mean, it looks like a regenerative.
Yeah.
Compared to the intact one.
That definitely can tell there's a little bit of a little hole there.
Yeah, that's what I'm going to be.
13-0.
No clips.
9-5.
Take that one.
No clips.
13-3.
No clips.
There's a good one.
17-2.
No clips.
9-2.
We'll take that one.
Flip.
Now you get to see Brandon's strenuous labor.
Telling fish.
One-tense of market at time.
It's mentally laborious.
Got to stay alert.
This fish I'm going to pull out of here in a minute will keep you alert.
Got some bycatch.
9-9.
We got that one already.
And we got an L.D.
11-5.
We'll take that one.
Ouch.
No clips.
Bonus water's going to be in.
Oh, they're cool.
They are.
They take five scales per half inch group.
Although maybe you're not taking five tonight because there's more than one boat.
But that's the general idea.
Just to get a range of different ones to look at.
Usually you can kind of tell.
There'll be a length frequency like an age break.
You know, like all the age zeroes will be around seven inches and under.
And then there'll be some that are between seven and eight that you're not sure is that an age zero or an age one.
And most of the age ones will be eight and nine inches and maybe ten inches.
It's kind of like a zone where you can't quite tell.
So we'll take those back to the office and age them to try to figure out where those breaks are
between the zeroes, the ones, and the twos.
9-4.
We'll take that one.
And they just take a subsample of scales for that.
That'll be regen.
So nine-4 is one and a half.
That's probably a one and a half.
Yeah, it's probably a one and a half.
One and four more.
Like that.
One and fours.
Yep.
Let's see if we can set the weight of this.
This is going to get a little bit closer.
There we go.
Nine-five.
We're good on that.
More clips.
Eight and a half.
We'll take that one.
No clips.
Eight and a half.
We'll take that one.
No clips.
There they are.
So that one's probably going to be an age zero.
6-0.
So how many of those do you want to see in order to feel like you've got a good year of class?
It depends on the lake.
15 per mile of shore or so is pretty good.
Anything above that is, you know, you're thinking it's going to be a good contributing year class.
This lake has a lot of shoreline and for some reason the catch of age zeros isn't usually that high.
So if we saw 10 to 15, that'd be pretty good per mile.
So 15 total juveniles?
The age ones look better than the age zeros so far.
So the age ones count in that 15 per mile.
They would be their own.
And for age ones you'd expect to see less because they've had to live a whole other year.
And they have pretty high mortality in their first couple years of life.
So like 5 to 10 per mile of age ones would be pretty good.
So we're maybe closer to that.
We might be at 5 per mile age ones.
Yeah.
Looks like it.
What?
Oh, something.
Okay, well, hold on. Can I measure that?
There you go.
30 millimeters.
Oh, there's two of you. Oh, I didn't see the other one.
Tiny blue gills.
Yeah, scuba den, other stuff comes up with them.
Right?
About an inch.
Quick.
I would take some off refresh it.
Okay, yeah.
What is your thing saying for water temp?
Yeah, some line says to.
I'm just curious how close they are to each other.
Should I give or take a degree?
Yeah. It's warmer over there.
So they're freshening up the water.
Since it's warmer, it doesn't hold as much oxygen.
It's just nice to switch it out.
Keep the fish happy in there.
Yeah.
Yeah, we want the fish happy.
Good?
Yeah.
That's right. They're going to want to close off.
They're going to access the water.
The ejection site is going to be like,
Oh, no.
Zach has to fill the whole tank.
I can't reach the water.
This is so bad.
I just haven't started throwing at your boat.
How far down can you guys see?
It's not green.
Pretty much like if I can see the bottom.
We're in two shallow water.
Oh, one of those. Okay.
There's a lot of stuff in the water.
Did you mention the mats we have to stand on?
I didn't.
Safety mats up there.
It's a switch mat.
So it connects metal to metal when they stand on it
and that completes the circuit.
So if somebody were to fall off their mat,
it cuts the power.
Yeah.
Or if they stand on their tip.
Oh, he didn't dress.
Did they have some extra gear form at least?
A little bit of an extra soup form.
So it wasn't.
Yeah.
I told you to pair rubber boots.
No.
I mean, everybody was tough, but it was raining.
Oh, shit.
That was so bad.
Yeah.
Oh, sure.
We're trying to get people into boat doing what they're doing.
Yeah.
I've had the videographers by now.
They know what they're doing.
Right. Right.
They don't need a ton of direction to get it.
You know, for certain shoots it would be like,
this is what I'm envisioning this, this, this, this, this.
Or, you know, just a second pair of ice.
Be helpful.
Yeah.
I honestly didn't know what we have for the situation tonight,
so I was full of preparedness to the boat.
Oh, sure.
I need to go out.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is a good boat for this sort of thing.
It's nice to have it.
Well, I appreciate that you're willing to actually, like,
go within 30 yards, because it was nice to have Mike help us.
Oh, but he didn't want to go close. Yeah.
You could see he was so worried about his boat
getting anywhere close to it. Oh, sure.
A lot of shots were really wide. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, aggressively not in the way.
I wasn't trying to do it.
Yeah.
Really long time.
We hope it's even approved.
We hope to go, it's just an idea. Yeah.
It's been put in videography at hours sometimes in the vehicle.
We're just talking about stories.
Oh, yeah.
The one thing I want to do is this walleye project,
and I don't know what they're going to let me do,
or how big it'll be.
He's like, well, that sounds awesome.
If you get to do it, let me know.
And I'll get your name in videography.
Nice.
Because, yeah, it requires a lot of week-long travel.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Not everybody's into that. Yeah.
You know, some of these are really cool.
Some of them are just long as calls,
or just like this.
This is a long day.
Oh, sure.
I know we're working to stay out until we have a meeting.
Oh, nice.
And two other guys have a Coke, and a filled-in response.
Yeah.
Yeah, they've done a great job, too.
Yeah.
But it is nice to have one consistent person.
14.
Yeah.
Like, we're partway through, and he's like,
I got everything I need.
I don't have to worry about him.
It's like, I'm not understanding what they need.
Oh, sure.
There will be some people that think they have everything.
This is all we need, right?
And then later on, you're like, we can't go back and recreate this.
Yeah.
No, it doesn't happen.
Right.
Yeah.
You got a couple of rocks that will make it whole.
Yeah.
yeah.
Yeah.
We are going to go to the beach and we are going to go to the beach and go to the beach
and go to the beach and go to the beach and go to the beach and go to the beach
and go to the beach and go to the beach and go to the beach.
It seems like we are getting a few more even now.
We are going to go to the beach and go to the beach.
Do you have other big projects you are working on at the same time?
This is the main one where you have the soybean story.
Yeah, and that is just a shortening thing.
So you like to keep doing your part to the...
I am still regularly contributing stuff for the show.
Yeah, that is good.
This is the main one though.
Yeah, I am already working in planning for election coverage.
Yeah.
But I am always doing that.
That is just part of it.
Is it governor's election this time too?
It is, okay.
Do you cover national too or just state mostly?
Because it would be congressional too, right?
Yeah.
We will cover federal and state elections.
Within the state?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But we are not.
I mean last year we covered the...
Oh, sure.
But otherwise we typically don't state for our politics.
We don't go to Washington anymore.
Right.
Yeah, you wouldn't even go interview our reps out in Washington.
You are just catching them here.
Right.
Yeah.
That is what I thought it was, but...
Oh, so everybody is lining up now?
No.
Yeah.
No, it will be...
It will be a mess.
You're in for an exciting cycle then.
Yeah.
I mean the primary is next August.
Okay.
It will...
Some of the primary kind of self-selects.
By the time you get to there you can see who is raising money and who doesn't have any money.
Oh, yeah.
You know, who is getting more desperate in their attacks and other people shows that they are behind the falls.
And who is already...
You know, who the other side concentrates their fire on, let's you know who they think the...
Who they think the biggest threat is?
Yeah.
So, there's all sorts of, you know, smoke signals that go up that everyone can read.
Right.
And it's just a matter of...
Especially if you've been in the game long enough and kind of...
I...
That's just it.
It's like I...
You know, like I see where this is going.
Even when we talk about how long ago I've known any of these people, like,
Tom Tiffany just announced he's running for government.
He's the congressman.
Yeah.
I knew him when he first ran for assembly.
Right.
He was...
Lost.
Oh.
2008.
Yeah.
So, we're talking, you know, nearly 20 years.
Yeah.
That I've been covering him.
He was state assembly and then was the state senate too.
He was state senate.
And then he went out to Washington.
So, he's been around for a long time.
So, someone like that, I've still been covering Wisconsin's gubernatorial elections longer than he's been in politics.
Yeah.
Right.
Everything he's going to say.
All the tricks.
He doesn't have that much new.
That's going to surprise you, I bet.
I don't know if we're going to make it through here.
Wow.
It's great.
Shallow's.
So, this is an island in a bay that he's going around there now.
And it's kind of shallow around it.
You can see there's a couple of boobies up there which are probably marking rocks.
I think it looks like he's making it through, so.
But his boat is really flat on the bottom.
It's made to go really shallow.
We're not quite as.
Dilt for that, but I think we'll be fine.
If not, we'll just wait for him to come out the other side.
So, here we got lining up.
We got Tiffany.
Public inside?
Yeah.
Wealthy business.
Never heard of him?
Yeah.
No one has heard of him before he knows.
Okay.
Alright.
Josh Shainemann is the Washington County Executive.
Okay.
He's following the old Scott Walker Lane of I'm a county executive, but I know how to run things.
Okay.
Tiffany is the, you know, Trumpy Northwood guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm familiar with Tiffany.
I've been up there long enough to see what he's like.
Yeah.
I don't feel like anyone left an house just picking up any momentum.
Yeah.
You know, the Democrats feel typically like supporting millionaire business then where
the Republicans do.
Right.
Okay.
Like I, he ran for Senate, right?
Yeah.
He passed on the governor's race last time when he probably could have walked in off the nation.
Okay.
He has lost a ton of money in the Senate.
Yeah.
You know, Tiffany getting in.
I mean, it's possible, but once again, the lanes fell up really fast.
The rich businessman is still very, like, the MAGA guy in San Tiffany, so what's up to get a feel of the guy that just lost.
And he doesn't want to be a governor if he wants to be a thing.
Okay.
Interesting.
All the fun is being sent of you.
Because you get to, like, be important.
You don't have to do a damn thing. The governor actually has to run the stand.
Yeah.
You don't want to do that.
The governor, they did it.
It worked.
Yeah.
At least they have to, like, hire a staff and have the staff run the stand.
Right.
They don't send it.
They don't just do Jack.
Right.
They just go out to Washington and vote on stuff.
They go on Fox News or on MSNBC.
Yeah.
Which is unfortunate that that's how it is now.
I mean, there's so much party lines now.
It was set up so that it would be really difficult for anyone to ever do anything.
We've decided to leverage that to a man to try and make sure that we know what you're doing.
Yeah.
They're pretty good here.
Yeah.
That's the hardest thing is to look for a quarter and try to explain to people.
Yeah.
Because they all sit there and talk about, oh.
They say, oh, why is this so bad?
It's okay.
It's like, well, because you don't vote for it.
Yeah.
You respond to your fault attacks.
Yeah.
If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it.
Literally what I say.
It didn't work.
They would not do it.
Yeah.
They run all these negative ads because it changes your mind.
And if Fox saw you vote, might as well ask, why does my social media, an algorithm filled
with nastiness?
Why do you keep clicking?
That's why you look at it.
That's why you click that.
I'm really yelling my wife every night.
We should like read some crap.
Right by getting all these messages because you keep reading it.
Skip by it.
Yeah.
Don't click on it.
Don't pause.
You pause.
It knows you.
It knows you paused.
You're going to get 10 more of it.
If you get it, lock it, delete it.
Tell the algorithm, I don't want it.
Yeah.
If you don't get it anymore.
Right.
I keep it on here.
Yeah.
I hope the bike's not working on the way easily.
Right.
He's going to be cutting some.
Cutting some sound out.
Yeah.
I don't know much about it.
I'm always amazed what I learned about what it takes to put together.
A documentary, a tune and a clip, you know, a trailer.
There's a lot to it.
It's a lot more than just get some video.
Yeah.
I mean, to do it right, to do it professionally is.
Yeah.
That's a really long sentence for someone who's saying.
Oh, sure.
People will speak in two or three seconds.
Sounds nice.
Can you just say something long?
For 10 straight seconds.
10 seconds to be like a real long is actually not just off the cuff.
It's something they really have to say.
You have to think what you're going to say and actually say it.
In the interviews, it's my job to get that out of them by asking questions and making them uncomfortable.
Yeah.
But it's not as simple as like, oh, I'll say something off the cuff.
I'm like, oh, no, that wasn't long enough for me anyway.
And then it's just going to be like this.
It's pretty awesome.
You know, even on the back of our hour and a half video.
Yeah.
This might be a minute and a half or two minutes.
Right.
You've got to pick the...
Ridiculous.
You've got to pick the best minute and a half.
Interesting.
Yeah.
No one knows.
A lot of my Stuart left.
Just watched the 30 minutes.
Yeah.
Long stories of me.
Okay.
That's like a full recording with a recorder and everything.
Yeah.
Look at what I was.
Right.
That's the minute.
We're here and now.
My stories are between six and eight minutes.
So what's your target for like a here and now episode?
Is that like, is it like a ten minute?
Or is it six to eight minutes?
Is that like the whole thing?
Or is there like multiple ones and a half hour?
Oh, so a typical here and now episode.
Two to three interviews with people.
Like full five to six minute interviews with a guest on a topic and then maybe one story.
Oh, okay.
So it's a whole show.
It's still the half, whole time slot.
And depending on the topic and the info, like, we usually don't like to have two packages,
two stories in one episode.
We don't want a recorder to arrive.
But local, that's been a decade.
It's like bleeds and bleeds.
You know, local car crashes are the greatest thing ever.
Oh, I've walked up to have a great half hour.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
So pretty good when you're an A girl.
We don't know the date.
Man, who died in the motorcycle accident?
Who gives a shit?
His family knows.
His family probably knows.
Yeah.
I don't know if he has to.
Hand waving to make people happy.
We're politics and they have to.
Yeah.
Because it's not just us.
It's like some of those top minutes, like Hudson and some of those other Minnesota border towns
that's superior.
Big chunk of what's here.
That gets Viking games.
Yeah.
Okay.
Depends on who gives what.
It's not just us.
Ohhh.
Yeah.
There's local, that probably is.
Right, because there's a lot of local answering over here.
Those are expensive to run, probably.
Here.
Nope.
Stop and work up here.
Shh.
five
Come around the cellar side here
I
There's some in here.
I'll just adjust that for more.
Keep it pushing, click.
11-1.
I will TIG THAT ONE.
We kicked up out of nowhere.
Mm-hmm, yeah.
Hey, huh?
So how is this stretch?
The ones?
Um, it seems quite more like age one so far.
I think we did get at least a handful of age.
It's not the same size.
It's hard to tell when you're driving.
Yeah.
Unless it's really useful.
Sometimes you get a goal out deeper to get around obstructions.
It's like the little ones really don't get hit very hard out in that deep water.
And I can just watch and swim.
Oh wait.
Yeah, a lot of them are deep.
Yeah, they're floating further.
They're stunned but they're like three, four feet deep.
You guys get stuck on a rock up there.
Where it says rocks?
Yeah.
Almost there.
That little walk.
Two.
I was like, oh, can I follow him through there?
I don't know.
Good choice not to.
Ten to four.
It's good.
Good rule of thumb if you're questioning if you follow me.
Should I follow Brandon?
Oh, he said no then.
Nice.
I mean, right here Regen, it's like that one's shorter than the other one.
Yeah, you can feel that way.
Yeah, I got enough left.
So that will be.
Eight nine.
You can follow us on the other side.
No clip.
Eight seven.
It's like that one.
No clip.