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This is no food.

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That's a good food.

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There he is.

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Come on up.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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He's doing it.

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What?

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Cupa.

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Is it bad?

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No.

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That's nice.

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Cupa.

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Cupa.

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I gotta get the burp this one.

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Cupa.

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Cupa.

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Cupa.

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Cupa.

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Cupa.

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Is there anyone over there?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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That's all about going on.

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He's like, well Marcus is on TV.

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He's on TV.

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He's probably.

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Is that good music?

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Uh, is that right?

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We usually do.

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Usually we're rocking out here.

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I just see him know that right too.

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We want this to be accurate.

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Well, we like it.

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He's been off.

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Maybe a little bit.

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Yeah.

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Like they want to be able to like pick up stuff.

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Yeah.

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Not copyright issues.

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Maybe after I do the first batch.

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Cause I still got that.

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You're leaving after the first batch, right?

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Yeah.

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We don't have to capture two batches.

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Cause that reminds me of this first.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I got to get in here.

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I got to take like two-ish hours.

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Go ahead Marcus.

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Yeah, actually it'll be quicker than that.

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Cause you'll be here.

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Okay.

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So it'd probably be more like maybe like an hour and a half of that.

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So we could do two hours.

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Cause I don't got to stop filetting.

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Cause you'll be there writing everything down.

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I don't got to stop filetting.

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I just got a filetting and then hand you everything.

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That's what I'm doing right now.

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Or else I wouldn't.

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I wouldn't be able to like do it.

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They're doing this right.

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So.

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Look at that.

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I promise this is a familiar.

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Well yeah, that's what I usually do when I come in I start doing that.

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I didn't even just like it today.

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I didn't even write down that when I came in yet.

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I usually do all this stuff first and then I write down when I come in.

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Cause this stuff usually takes like an hour to file.

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But these have been sitting out since last night.

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I thought they would have been cleaned up.

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And still got cleaned a mile.

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This is a commentary for someone.

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No.

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No.

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There's just a lot of stuff that is going on.

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Remember Nissen?

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Cheers.

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I've known Jake since I was a little kid.

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He was kind of the one of the reasons why I wanted to start working here.

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Jake?

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Yeah.

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I just remember out like Jake what do you do for work like when I was in like middle school

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and stuff and oh I work at Goodfway.

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No I really work like that.

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My dang that's a cool job.

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He's like yeah.

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He's like you worked that long enough.

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You just stand there out and they just had you to come work for them.

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I was like all right.

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Awesome.

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Come on.

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Yeah that was shocking bullets are pretty fun.

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You guys are going to be out on the shocking bullets too huh?

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Yeah come on.

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Oh yeah the spring.

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I don't mean fall.

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My bet.

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I was out there in the spring time.

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That's a weird catching like big monster ones.

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You guys will be watching them catch like little ones over there.

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Those ones are fresh.

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These ones aren't so fresh.

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I don't know when they caught these ones or how long they've been chilling.

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Because usually on the fresh ones will like take the cheeks off too.

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Because why now?

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Not for testing them.

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No.

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No three.

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Nah you just yeah.

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Just a little extra, a little extra snack.

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Helps with peace.

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Well we gave someone to the Michigan 31st.

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Helps with gifts.

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Yeah when I was down at ceremonies I see an AC bond down there and he said that they cooked some up for a...

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Let's save it.

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Yeah and then every time you transport these I don't know why.

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Just because they're fish I guess.

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But they always got like slime on them.

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And you gotta clean them off but also when I'm full in.

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I mean it's already gets pretty slimy.

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But they get mega slimy if I didn't clean obviously.

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Stumb off to here.

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Fish should just be sliding all over the place.

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The police will be flying off the table.

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The heck were they doing with this one?

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No.

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No.

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Do we try to get 12?

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12 fish alike?

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Sometimes we don't.

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But you can get 12 big fish.

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And we try to get the bigger fish.

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The bigger's better.

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We've got tape her in there.

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Karen didn't know these had tape germs on them.

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came up with us jockeying on the boat in the springtime.

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We caught a pretty nice one with big tape worm crawling out

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of it.

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She was like, what is that?

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I think it's a tape worm.

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They have tape worms in them.

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Nice to lead up one yesterday with a big huge tumor and it was pretty crazy.

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I never seen one like that before.

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It was like the size of like a big chicken egg.

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It was crazy.

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Yeah, this one was inside it, like inside it's a swim bladder, like right up against the

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spine.

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When I was shocking too, I learned a lot about like what determines like a healthy walleye.

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Like when you're like our catching stuff, like if you're catching nothing but monsters,

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it's usually like not a good late.

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Something's going on where the fryer, the earling are getting killed out, then they're

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not making it.

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There's no turnover is what they called it.

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And same thing if it's like nothing but small fish, like small females and stuff.

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There's something where, something's not going right, it can be habitat or predator or something.

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No, I was just letting them know, no, no, I was just letting them know, no, you're

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doing great.

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They're all involved somewhere in other maxillaries or whatever they're called.

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But again, yeah, I do all this just minimalized work because it's going to be really slimy

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anyways and I try to keep, I got a little squeegee over here, I try to keep it like

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a tidy and stuff, but you know, yeah, getting back to that healthy ecosystem though.

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The last lake, I remember we did was Duck Lake and that's a border lake and it was

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a leg beer dessert late for spirit and we had to like hunt the fish down, it was crazy.

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Everywhere we rolled up, it was like pre-mo spawn time.

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Everywhere we rolled up where it should have been like, it was really gravelly like pre-mo

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spawn beds like where they were spawning before previous years, there's nothing there.

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We found maybe like one or two and they're either our captain butch, he was like, we

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got to get more fish, he's like, they're gonna, because the more fish we get, the better

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numbers they'll get for that lake, like the more fish they can spirit.

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And even that, they had like 80-some fish available and they said that they had maybe

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five teams go out there to spear and each team only came back with maybe three could

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be really let down, like not being able to see nothing, like I want to be, I want to

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be able to guarantee my kid like I can get you on some game, you know.

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So that's like what it's, yeah butch was really like, there's something going on with

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this lake, taken over by more sand and more vegetation, like bass habitat.

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So it's like, yeah, it's pre-mo bass fishing but for walleye it's not the best.

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And it's, yeah, I think I mixed reviews on that so, get these in order, I look at the

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fish, 351, 375, so this one's here, and I just line them up so I know how to go down

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so this is how I usually got to line them, okay, and I usually got that there so I can

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like wipe my hands off, and then I measure, measure everything, so this would be 14-1.

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14-1?

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Yep, and then we come over and weigh it up, all right, well yeah another thing,

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too, I totally spaced it out, took this now, yeah I caught up in getting all these fish

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ready, I gotta get my knives ready, I can't, I can't do this without my knives, whoa,

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that's just to get any of the little burrs off and stuff, because that thing sharpens

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it really good but sometimes, man, this is 16-3, yeah, and you got that weight, okay,

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now we're gonna need too much on the table, when you're writing, because sometimes it

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messes with the scale, so usually like I step back and I like wait for it to do what it has to do, 15-2,

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yeah, I know, but I'm saying like you don't mess with it, I usually just back up, 15-2,

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so you guys been doing this stuff, yeah, like how long you been in this work, oh great man,

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7-8, all right, how'd you get into this, you just been like, okay, that's dope, he's from

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like Louisiana, when he says this area, he means like this state, yeah, so it's like when he's like oh yeah you're

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from this area, it's like you know you know about what's going on and you came up here, it wasn't

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not really different, right, yeah, that's cool, so how'd you get into this, how'd you get into

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this work, and that's what I was wanting to be in like, like illusion, yeah, that's cool, I mean you guys

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are all talking about us, it's like yeah I want to know a little bit about you guys, man, like that's

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cool, that's cool, I didn't like school, I don't like school, I'll probably never go back, I'm not

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like trying to top down on it or nothing, but I just had a really, I didn't have, I didn't have the

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best experience in school, so I was like I won't go back, I was like doing stuff like this, so when

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I got this job it was like perfect fit, this is 28.5,

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yeah, should you be able to fill it out if I'm here, yeah, I'm going to get a shot of it, perfect,

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so I'll be like, so are you from around here, yeah I'm from Bad River, I'm a tribal member, I'm

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spending around here my whole life, I grew up in the woods, grew up on the river, been on boats my

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whole life, been fishing forever, and that's how I kind of got into, I got this job was get

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out full in, out full in from my uncles, there's like, you full in fish right, like you need that

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meat, you know, so they hated it, hated it, when I would, I used to cut around the ribs and just have

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like big backscrap fillet and big tail fillet, like oh yeah that's good, look at all that meat,

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look at all, and then they would fillet it and get all that belly meat and be like look at this,

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look at all this meat you left, like yeah they would be really, that's the challenge, okay, right,

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this one is 18-4

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oops, this one is 19-5, 14-7

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all right, in the river

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is that the bleach, I can't yeah

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great

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Just to be extra.

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This too I need this to clean myself up.

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This is very fragile so you gotta like take your time with it.

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Yeah, there's a lot of fish here.

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I'll get all the angles.

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But yeah, I can see things let me know.

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That's a hard one to see.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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This is a baby female.

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They start so young.

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She had eggs too.

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She wasn't agar.

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Some people leave the skin on for their analysis.

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We take the skin off the tissue.

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There's some studies out there that say that the results are a little bit.

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Some people cook the fish with the skin off.

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Take the skin off and pry it up.

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It's a matter of preference.

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That's how we do our tissue.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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I'm going to take a little bit of water.

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When you're thinking, can you just point them out first with your tweezers

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for anything?

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You can see exactly what we're pulling.

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No problem.

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Let me clean this up for you a little bit so it's not so muddy.

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It's going to be a little muddy, but just so it's a better shot.

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A little cleaner.

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Like I said, the odorless are really thin

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so you want to put enough pressure into it just to get through it.

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Sometimes they pop up here because this is where they usually sit,

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but they pop this way. This is the odorless right here.

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Here's one.

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Here's the other one right here.

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Like I said, it just depends how it breaks. Sometimes they'll stay in that little pocket,

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but sometimes they'll pop this way.

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It's scary when they go this way because the only thing that's holding it there

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is a little bit of gel and if you pop that

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they slide right into the brain and it's impossible to find.

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I left out once and found one and I was pretty impressed with myself.

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So when you're Chilean, are you

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doing the same technique as you would for harvest even though?

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Yeah, pretty much because I'm like, well,

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they probably want it as close to

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somebody eating it because they want it for consumption.

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So I'm like, when I'm going to cut it up,

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like I'm cutting it up to harvest.

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The way my uncle would want me to fillet it.

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Or Jake would fillet it. Jake's a master to fillet.

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This is a male.

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So you can tell the difference because the male's got these big huge

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milk sacks. So you can call it fish milk.

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How old were you when you first filleted fish?

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I was probably like

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at the actually like clean and foolish, or foolish,

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I'll sing about fillet and fish, but like a cleaning fish.

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I was probably like

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I was probably like six, but I was like

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just scaling it and like with bull heads, just like skinning them.

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But I want to say the first time I actually

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filleted it was maybe about like ten

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and it was just butchered. It was like just straight. I remember I was with my

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uncle Rob and he was trying to show me how to

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fillet and I had little ones like this and I was

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just butchered and I was just getting like it was just mangled

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and he was like hold up, hold up. He started giving me big ones like this and

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bigger ones and he's like here this is how you learn how to fillet.

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It's how I learned. He said the bigger one's that bigger bone

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so it's easier for the knife to slide on. So it's easier to learn like

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the way your knife is supposed to work it.

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That's how I got good at it.

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Yeah, because I used to just cut like all this so

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Jake and like my uncle Rob and that's all good stuff

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that you're wasting it, you're wasting it.

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People, I got cousins down and I'll steal that like this cut too. These are called

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the wings because there's good fat. I mean good like

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fatty meat in here, you know, just like the belly. So like

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they'll cut this off and they'll bread that up and fry it up. I wouldn't do that

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but I like the cheeks. We'll take the cheeks out but not

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on these ones.

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My uncle Sam too, yeah

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he's really really die hard, fillet dude. He's really

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bought his fillets and if you're meh

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don't mess up the fillets, don't, those are your fillets over there

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keep them away from mine, mine look beautiful. I got beautiful fillets

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but I have a lot of

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like my skills and like what I, I guess what I love

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about my job to my uncle's.

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They taught me how to enjoy nature.

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Yeah, they're good enough. That's how I was telling Karen when she hired me. I'm like I don't know.

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Some of these fillets might turn out and be like man let's throw that in the fine pan.

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I got a couple guys from the NRD that would come in every once in a while.

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We'll just put one of those in the freezer.

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Like nah man can.

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That's what he said. He was like well I thought they only took one side.

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I'm like nope they hate.

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Ever since the addition of the e-cross program we take both

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stuff and finish it out. So it used to just be the record program. We would only take one stuff and tissue

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and now we take both. So that's where the cheeks don't come.

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How are they back?

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If they're frozen cold they're still okay.

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Yeah well again it depends on how long

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the ones we had earlier this year they were all fresh.

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As soon as they were harvested or as soon as we

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because some of the samples we got from

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shocking. So as soon as we got them it was like we threw them on ice

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and we either brought them here or they threw them in the freezer

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like so they're you know especially they could be.

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Yeah these these on the other hand are from Michigan

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you don't know how long they were sitting out like when they're

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harvested really like.

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That's what I was thinking like

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or if I do I'll show you like I'm one of these bigger ones

399
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I'll show you guys like how we take the cheeks out on one of the bigger ones because

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it looks better with the bigger ones you get a bigger nice chunk of meat.

401
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Like when we're like netting and stuff you're depending

402
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on where you go like Milak you can get like 300, 400 fish you know

403
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so you're sitting there flailing up torpedoes like this. You think about it

404
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that's a lot of meat in your waist and so it's like yeah I'm flailing them up you know

405
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but sometimes you're you're getting spots where you only get a few

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of them. Two or probably two or three weeks of

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flange trying to figure out the rhythm of how to do stuff more

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more efficiently and

409
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,960
come to find out it's all the odorless all first and then I can just concentrate

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on flailing because

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Josh isn't down here all the time so it's like

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I got to think about like time too because another thing

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is for me at least I got to worry about picking up my girls

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at the end of the day at three they get done with school at three so I got to be done here by three

415
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technically I could pick them up at three thirty but I don't like

416
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,960
making them wait especially my one year old she always expects me there

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00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,960
at three and she gets upset if I'm not

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I didn't know that till the teachers told me.

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Yup they it was like a parrot

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stay or something or it was like a family day and

421
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she was the I was a little late literally probably like 10 minutes late

422
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and she was the last kid in the room knowing

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she was crying waiting for her dad

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she was waiting for her day day and I was like

425
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ahh

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I didn't I got to do the first fillet and then I can determine

427
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if it's a he or she I don't want to

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misidentify

429
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they might be non-binary

430
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I don't know this is a male

431
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now you might want to edit that out

432
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I was like this is the job we're talking it is joking

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yeah we do mark them as unknown if we don't know

434
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but we find out which injury

435
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I can usually figure it out

436
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I was showing him how to figure it out to one day he was like how do you know

437
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if it's a male or a female I was like come here I'll show you

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even if they're a young female you can see where their

439
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,960
ovaries would be they're just like not full

440
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,960
and the males they always have a little bit of they're more white I guess

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so

442
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this one is a little male

443
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yeah

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yeah

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00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,960
yeah we're saying that joke though on the ball

446
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because like when you're working up the fish you got

447
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for the data purposes you got to tell if it's a male or a female

448
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and my

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shit man he kept going like if they're young and we couldn't tell

450
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non-binary you know it was just

451
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the running joke just like one of the other

452
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,960
running jokes was every time we left like at the end of the day

453
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or at the end of the night I should say from working everybody in the car

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Jay you in the car this guy

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got left one time at the lake

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one night I was trying to signal them

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oh yeah and so that's always a good time too hanging out with them

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guys the shocking crew that's a good time

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you

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you

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you

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you

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you

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you

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you

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you

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you

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you

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00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,960
you

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you

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you

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you

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already got to put it up

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00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,960
all right I know it's good to go

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this one

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see like in this one the hold of this stuck up in the top

477
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,960
see that right here

478
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,960
yeah I learned you got to like really

479
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take your time with it and just break that first little

480
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,960
when I first was doing it the way Ben showed me he he was just

481
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,960
beast it and because he was showing me on Lakers and them lake fish got like

482
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thicker bones and so it was like you got to kind of be really tough on them

483
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so that's why I was like beasting on them and I was breaking the hold of this up

484
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and cracking them in half and so I learned you got to

485
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,960
be delicate with it

486
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I got a little

487
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,960
I got a little better with my technique just from watching

488
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,960
read the fishmonger on YouTube so

489
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,960
shout out read read the fishmonger man like have you ever

490
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,960
put that in there be like oh yeah he has some he

491
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:14,960
he can show you how to cut up some fish though

492
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this is the male

493
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,960
usually I do too like but

494
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,960
it seems like for like weighing all purposes it comes out a little

495
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,960
better but that's what I was doing

496
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,960
too at first I have like the big freaking chunk of skin hanging out

497
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,960
with

498
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:28,960
you can

499
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,960
fillet fish was uh you can fillet it so it's like all the meat just like

500
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,960
falls it's like one it almost looks like a big butterfly

501
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,960
meat

502
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:46,960
yeah

503
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,960
too it's pretty awesome

504
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:52,960
oh

505
00:45:52,960 --> 00:46:00,960
yeah man I grew up

506
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,960
from when I hear we're spoiled up here

507
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,960
but yeah I grew up eating walleye in my entire life

508
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,960
I was eating walleye basically anything in the river

509
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,960
like walleye

510
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northern

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smallmouth bluegill

512
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,960
crappie and basically anything that swims around

513
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,960
here but yeah I always grew up eating walleye

514
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,960
anything that swims in the net

515
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,960
here's a female

516
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,960
no land prey don't swim in the net they swim through it

517
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:52,960
no one time though I was filleting in northern

518
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,960
and uh land prey popped out of it

519
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,960
like out of its stomach my uncle Sam was like

520
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,960
take a picture of that send that to glyph lake

521
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,960
I was telling that land prey specialist about it

522
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,960
he's like really oh you should have man oh it would have been awesome

523
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,960
yeah it was just something

524
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,960
one I never seen it before but I was thinking about it

525
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,960
I mean they eat big leeches and stuff so

526
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,960
I just thought it was a big leech

527
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,960
do you see the basses and the trees?

528
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,960
I'm almost almost good enough to read a newspaper

529
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,960
I still think they're very good

530
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:50,960
I got a helper down here this school is really fast because usually it's just me down here so it's like

531
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,960
I got a stop so that's why I just learned

532
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,960
I get the fillets out full am then that way I can throw the fish down

533
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,960
weigh them up right it down onto the next one

534
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:12,960
one time I was fully inefficient when I got here to

535
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:18,960
take the gills out of the way it was calm there's a big leader in its mouth

536
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,960
somebody caught it at one point and it swallowed the hook

537
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,960
it was way down and it's like stomach and stuff so I thought it was cool

538
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,960
it was a huge fish, big monster female

539
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,960
somebody had the fight of their life that day

540
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,960
lost the monitor

541
00:49:52,960 --> 00:50:00,960
it was a good

542
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:06,960
it was a good

543
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:18,960
good

544
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:26,960
good

545
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:42,960
good

546
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:48,960
male

547
00:50:48,960 --> 00:51:12,960
male

548
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,960
oh

549
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:59,340
The

550
00:51:59,340 --> 00:52:24,780
Yeah, and since working from a micro program too, I found all that like the, yeah, my entire

551
00:52:24,780 --> 00:52:29,020
life of my all hits in the belly.

552
00:52:54,780 --> 00:52:59,780
Whatever your question, find out what it looks like.

553
00:52:59,780 --> 00:53:11,780
The fact that you need to make the belly not up is that you need to be able to reach for your spouse too.

554
00:53:11,780 --> 00:53:15,780
And, oh shit.

555
00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:20,780
It's good.

556
00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:24,780
There's some tests you need to help.

557
00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:26,780
There are tests you need to follow.

558
00:53:26,780 --> 00:53:29,780
There are tests you need to help.

559
00:53:29,780 --> 00:53:32,780
There are tests you need to follow.

560
00:53:32,780 --> 00:53:37,780
There are tests you need to follow.

561
00:53:37,780 --> 00:53:42,780
Jake brought up, I remember this was like a while ago.

562
00:53:42,780 --> 00:53:46,780
We're talking about microplastics, right?

563
00:53:46,780 --> 00:53:50,780
And he brought up, what about in the rice?

564
00:53:50,780 --> 00:53:52,780
And I was like, what do you mean?

565
00:53:52,780 --> 00:53:56,780
And he said, it makes perfect sense to me.

566
00:53:56,780 --> 00:54:00,780
All the tarps that everybody uses are plastic tarps.

567
00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:07,780
And it's like when you're gathering the rice, like how much of them and the rice bags that you're using?

568
00:54:07,780 --> 00:54:12,780
Yeah, so it's like how much of them microplastics are actually getting into the rice?

569
00:54:12,780 --> 00:54:16,780
I brought that up to AC bot and he was like, I never thought of that.

570
00:54:16,780 --> 00:54:20,780
He was like, that's actually something to think about.

571
00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:24,780
He was like, I seriously never thought of it like that.

572
00:54:24,780 --> 00:54:29,780
And I was like, yeah, Jake brought it up and I've always thought about it ever since.

573
00:54:29,780 --> 00:54:33,780
Because I mean if we're worrying about microplastics in the fish right now,

574
00:54:33,780 --> 00:54:36,780
wouldn't we want to worry about the rice too?

575
00:54:36,780 --> 00:54:40,780
Look at that, because he's big screens.

576
00:54:40,780 --> 00:54:42,780
The dried rice, huh?

577
00:54:42,780 --> 00:54:44,780
Mm-hmm.

578
00:54:44,780 --> 00:54:46,780
The rice, huh?

579
00:54:46,780 --> 00:54:47,780
Don't put it on, okay?

580
00:54:47,780 --> 00:54:50,780
The dried rice.

581
00:54:50,780 --> 00:54:54,780
It doesn't come out, okay?

582
00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:56,780
When I see people moving back and forth,

583
00:54:56,780 --> 00:55:00,780
the dried rice, the marmed rice, the rice real fast.

584
00:55:00,780 --> 00:55:02,780
That's not crazy.

585
00:55:02,780 --> 00:55:03,780
No.

586
00:55:03,780 --> 00:55:05,780
It's not crazy.

587
00:55:05,780 --> 00:55:07,780
It's not crazy.

588
00:55:07,780 --> 00:55:09,780
I think the rice is good.

589
00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:11,780
It's good.

590
00:55:11,780 --> 00:55:13,780
It's good.

591
00:55:13,780 --> 00:55:15,780
It's good.

592
00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:17,780
It's good.

593
00:55:17,780 --> 00:55:19,780
It's good.

594
00:55:27,780 --> 00:55:31,780
See, you guys want to talk about the microplastics?

595
00:55:31,780 --> 00:55:33,780
Look at it.

596
00:55:33,780 --> 00:55:35,780
Um, after we're down to his five foot.

597
00:55:35,780 --> 00:55:43,780
Yeah, because I'm just jibber jibbering over here.

598
00:55:43,780 --> 00:55:45,780
I'm just trying to kill time, you know.

599
00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:47,780
Great.

600
00:55:51,780 --> 00:55:55,780
This is a female.

601
00:55:55,780 --> 00:55:57,780
Yep.

602
00:56:01,780 --> 00:56:09,780
Yep, see, here's a little spent up over here.

603
00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:11,780
It's all deflated.

604
00:56:19,780 --> 00:56:23,780
She was the first at the bar that night.

605
00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:26,780
Oh.

606
00:56:29,780 --> 00:56:31,780
Well, that's how Butch put it.

607
00:56:31,780 --> 00:56:33,780
Like when he's all like, he's like big about it.

608
00:56:33,780 --> 00:56:35,780
He's like, that's all these little fish are.

609
00:56:35,780 --> 00:56:37,780
He's like, all the little young ones

610
00:56:37,780 --> 00:56:39,780
are our first ones over there at the bar.

611
00:56:39,780 --> 00:56:43,780
He's like, the big females come in right away.

612
00:56:47,780 --> 00:56:49,780
I was like, holy crap.

613
00:56:49,780 --> 00:56:51,780
He's like, later on, that's when the big males come in.

614
00:56:51,780 --> 00:56:53,780
See what I tell you.

615
00:56:53,780 --> 00:56:55,780
Young bucks at the bar, man.

616
00:57:05,780 --> 00:57:07,780
Yeah, that's Butch's take comment.

617
00:57:11,780 --> 00:57:13,780
That's what I was like, man.

618
00:57:13,780 --> 00:57:17,780
He had so much, he had so much like knowledge though, you know.

619
00:57:17,780 --> 00:57:19,780
And it's like, and he's getting,

620
00:57:19,780 --> 00:57:21,780
he's getting ready to retire.

621
00:57:21,780 --> 00:57:25,780
So it's like, I think he said he has this season

622
00:57:25,780 --> 00:57:27,780
and next spring and then he's done.

623
00:57:29,780 --> 00:57:31,780
Yeah, so it's like, man.

624
00:57:33,780 --> 00:57:35,780
But he has so much knowledge and

625
00:57:41,780 --> 00:57:43,780
he just always has a funny way of putting it.

626
00:57:43,780 --> 00:57:47,780
It's mushy and it's hard to fully like,

627
00:57:47,780 --> 00:57:51,780
you'll be like, like, how I was grabbing it and doing that.

628
00:57:51,780 --> 00:57:55,780
It'll like, want to squish up on the bottom

629
00:57:55,780 --> 00:57:57,780
and it's just not good.

630
00:57:57,780 --> 00:58:03,780
It fully comes out all stringy and not presentable.

631
00:58:11,780 --> 00:58:15,780
Yeah, on this fish, I'll show you guys how we do the cheeks.

632
00:58:18,780 --> 00:58:20,780
Just to get that in there.

633
00:58:27,780 --> 00:58:29,780
Yeah, they just put whatever the heck they had on hand.

634
00:58:29,780 --> 00:58:31,780
I need to be a teacher sometimes.

635
00:58:45,780 --> 00:58:46,780
This one.

636
00:58:46,780 --> 00:58:48,780
Yeah, but I enjoy doing this work.

637
00:58:48,780 --> 00:58:53,780
I feel like what I'm doing is for a good cause.

638
00:58:53,780 --> 00:58:57,780
And it's,

639
00:58:57,780 --> 00:59:01,780
it's not just to benefit my people, but like everybody

640
00:59:01,780 --> 00:59:05,780
because our data gets shared with the whole state.

641
00:59:05,780 --> 00:59:07,780
Yeah.

642
00:59:07,780 --> 00:59:13,780
Do you feel like you have to keep pushing the awareness of mercury?

643
00:59:13,780 --> 00:59:17,780
Or do most people, I mean, your family, your extended family.

644
00:59:17,780 --> 00:59:21,780
Well, it seems like, at least in the Indian community,

645
00:59:21,780 --> 00:59:25,780
from my perspective, it seems like people pay attention to that.

646
00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:28,780
People pay attention to that, you know.

647
00:59:28,780 --> 00:59:31,780
Like they don't want, they don't want to be poison in their kids and stuff.

648
00:59:31,780 --> 00:59:34,780
And they don't, they don't want to be,

649
00:59:34,780 --> 00:59:37,780
because a lot of the time,

650
00:59:37,780 --> 00:59:41,780
we're not just keeping this fish for ourselves, like we gift it

651
00:59:41,780 --> 00:59:45,780
or we use it for fees or funerals or whatever.

652
00:59:45,780 --> 00:59:51,780
And yeah, it's an important commodity.

653
00:59:51,780 --> 00:59:55,780
And we pay attention to it because it matters, you know.

654
00:59:55,780 --> 00:59:59,780
And, but from what I, what I've seen,

655
00:59:59,780 --> 01:00:03,780
a lot of non-natives, they don't pay attention to it

656
01:00:03,780 --> 01:00:07,780
because they feel like they don't eat to or whatever.

657
01:00:07,780 --> 01:00:12,780
I don't know what their logic is, but like for instance,

658
01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:16,780
Cisco at Lake, that is like in our, at least in our area,

659
01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:18,780
like the really hot lake around here.

660
01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:21,780
And everybody knows you don't eat nothing out of there.

661
01:00:21,780 --> 01:00:25,780
But I'm pretty sure, like I was here every once in a while,

662
01:00:25,780 --> 01:00:28,780
people talking about eating the walleye and stuff out of there,

663
01:00:28,780 --> 01:00:32,780
and I'm like, yo, you shouldn't even be eating that.

664
01:00:32,780 --> 01:00:34,780
And Bush put it to me.

665
01:00:34,780 --> 01:00:36,780
And it, Bush said this, he's like,

666
01:00:36,780 --> 01:00:40,780
I wouldn't have my worst enemy eat a fish out of that lake.

667
01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:42,780
That's how he put it.

668
01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:46,780
He's like, that lake is so like contaminated with mercury.

669
01:00:46,780 --> 01:00:49,780
Ossafician, by the way, over there, like you got,

670
01:00:49,780 --> 01:00:51,780
you can catch some fish.

671
01:00:51,780 --> 01:00:54,780
But yeah, he said I would not let,

672
01:00:54,780 --> 01:00:57,780
I wouldn't have my worst enemy eat a fish out of that lake.

673
01:00:57,780 --> 01:01:02,780
But some people just, I mean, I understand times are hard, you know.

674
01:01:02,780 --> 01:01:07,780
Yeah, I do what you got to do, but yeah, I feel like you got to,

675
01:01:07,780 --> 01:01:11,780
not just for the Indian community, but again, for everybody.

676
01:01:11,780 --> 01:01:15,780
You got to push the awareness of what you can't eat,

677
01:01:15,780 --> 01:01:19,780
what you can't eat, like, how much you can have.

678
01:01:19,780 --> 01:01:25,780
My answer is still suspicion about someone like the warnings

679
01:01:25,780 --> 01:01:27,780
and like those are maybe more than the services.

680
01:01:27,780 --> 01:01:31,780
Oh yeah, like there's, like you, this is just for instance,

681
01:01:31,780 --> 01:01:34,780
but like just take like the big limits.

682
01:01:34,780 --> 01:01:38,780
It's like those big limits are set by the state for a reason.

683
01:01:38,780 --> 01:01:44,780
And it's, this is a female.

684
01:01:44,780 --> 01:01:49,780
A young female.

685
01:01:49,780 --> 01:01:55,780
But yeah, they set them, it's not just for the,

686
01:01:55,780 --> 01:02:01,780
they're not setting those limits, just for the, like the fish numbers,

687
01:02:01,780 --> 01:02:04,780
you know, they're setting it because it's for consumption too.

688
01:02:04,780 --> 01:02:08,780
Like they don't want people to over, it doesn't matter how small they are

689
01:02:08,780 --> 01:02:10,780
and stuff, it's like they're still in there.

690
01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:12,780
Yeah, you're consuming it.

691
01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:17,780
Like, so yeah, you, it's, yeah.

692
01:02:17,780 --> 01:02:19,780
It's a whole lot that goes into it, but yeah, for sure.

693
01:02:19,780 --> 01:02:25,780
You got to push the awareness, people got to know what's up.

694
01:02:25,780 --> 01:02:28,780
I wouldn't say I never said it, but it was programming

695
01:02:28,780 --> 01:02:29,780
doing the outreach.

696
01:02:29,780 --> 01:02:33,780
But I was kind of surprised, like, going to health fairs

697
01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:35,780
and kind of like...

698
01:02:35,780 --> 01:02:37,780
Because there's...

699
01:02:38,780 --> 01:02:40,780
Yeah, there's lots of people who do...

700
01:02:52,780 --> 01:02:53,780
Take your kids' fishing?

701
01:02:53,780 --> 01:02:55,780
Yeah, I tried to.

702
01:02:55,780 --> 01:02:59,780
I mean, it's always kind of a hassle when you got a two and a one year old,

703
01:02:59,780 --> 01:03:02,780
you know, but I tried to take a fish in.

704
01:03:02,780 --> 01:03:06,780
My daughter, Daphne, she's really good at it.

705
01:03:06,780 --> 01:03:14,780
The first time I took her fishing, she caught, like, 17 jumbo perch.

706
01:03:14,780 --> 01:03:18,780
Like, they're really good walleyes in the river in the fall time.

707
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:20,780
Because everybody's not like...

708
01:03:20,780 --> 01:03:22,780
Like, all the tribe members are in the woods.

709
01:03:22,780 --> 01:03:23,780
Everybody's hunting.

710
01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:27,780
So I was like, nobody on the river, and they're just catching monsters,

711
01:03:27,780 --> 01:03:29,780
like, so...

712
01:03:29,780 --> 01:03:31,780
My buddy was like, how come nobody's...

713
01:03:31,780 --> 01:03:33,780
How come they never see no tribal members in the fall time

714
01:03:33,780 --> 01:03:35,780
when the walleye are really biting good?

715
01:03:35,780 --> 01:03:36,780
My...

716
01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:38,780
Because everybody's fishing all summer, man, and...

717
01:03:38,780 --> 01:03:41,780
Shit, man, it's hunting season.

718
01:03:41,780 --> 01:03:43,780
In the fall time, everything's game.

719
01:03:43,780 --> 01:03:45,780
If it flies, it dies.

720
01:03:45,780 --> 01:03:47,780
If it's down, it's down.

721
01:03:50,780 --> 01:03:52,780
Everything's game.

722
01:04:00,780 --> 01:04:01,780
Jake's the...

723
01:04:01,780 --> 01:04:02,780
Partridge master.

724
01:04:02,780 --> 01:04:05,780
He's the master gross hunter around here.

725
01:04:07,780 --> 01:04:08,780
I'm gonna get my...

726
01:04:08,780 --> 01:04:09,780
Get my share.

727
01:04:11,780 --> 01:04:13,780
Plus, other people share.

728
01:04:14,780 --> 01:04:17,780
No, he's really good at hunting gross, though.

729
01:04:24,780 --> 01:04:25,780
20-year-old last year.

730
01:04:27,780 --> 01:04:28,780
Is this a dog?

731
01:04:28,780 --> 01:04:29,780
Nope.

732
01:04:30,780 --> 01:04:31,780
20-year-old.

733
01:04:36,780 --> 01:04:37,780
See, you hear him?

734
01:04:37,780 --> 01:04:39,780
Yeah, oh, I got 20 last year.

735
01:04:39,780 --> 01:04:41,780
I'm lucky to get maybe two or three.

736
01:04:41,780 --> 01:04:42,780
Dang it.

737
01:04:46,780 --> 01:04:48,780
A lot of seasonals in the ground.

738
01:04:50,780 --> 01:04:52,780
They just got in the water seal.

739
01:04:52,780 --> 01:04:53,780
Look at them.

740
01:04:53,780 --> 01:04:54,780
They just sit on them.

741
01:04:54,780 --> 01:04:57,780
They just sit there and let them shoot.

742
01:04:58,780 --> 01:05:00,780
Oh, they're coloration.

743
01:05:00,780 --> 01:05:01,780
It's crazy.

744
01:05:01,780 --> 01:05:04,780
Their coloration blend in so good.

745
01:05:05,780 --> 01:05:07,780
I've gotten to, like, meet a UOA

746
01:05:07,780 --> 01:05:10,780
and they didn't move until, like, I took another step and...

747
01:05:12,780 --> 01:05:15,780
Oh, yeah, because I didn't even see them, like...

748
01:05:22,780 --> 01:05:23,780
Yeah, sometimes...

749
01:05:25,780 --> 01:05:26,780
Sometimes they'll...

750
01:05:27,780 --> 01:05:29,780
They'll send out, like, a Judas one,

751
01:05:30,780 --> 01:05:32,780
where they'll sacrifice them.

752
01:05:32,780 --> 01:05:33,780
You'll shoot that one.

753
01:05:33,780 --> 01:05:36,780
Well, there's, like, 20 of them over here in the trees.

754
01:05:36,780 --> 01:05:37,780
You don't even know.

755
01:05:37,780 --> 01:05:40,780
So, usually when you pop when you gotta, like, look around,

756
01:05:40,780 --> 01:05:42,780
you'll see, like, a couple more walking around.

757
01:05:47,780 --> 01:05:50,780
Yeah, fall time is my favorite time of year around here.

758
01:05:50,780 --> 01:05:52,780
It seems like you can do anything you want.

759
01:05:52,780 --> 01:05:53,780
You can...

760
01:05:53,780 --> 01:05:56,780
There's still some berries out there that are good.

761
01:05:56,780 --> 01:05:58,780
Blackberries are still good.

762
01:05:58,780 --> 01:06:00,780
Fishing is primo.

763
01:06:01,780 --> 01:06:03,780
Haunting is bomb.

764
01:06:04,780 --> 01:06:06,780
And, again, you can hunt whatever you want, then.

765
01:06:06,780 --> 01:06:07,780
You got...

766
01:06:07,780 --> 01:06:08,780
You want to go duck hunting?

767
01:06:08,780 --> 01:06:09,780
Go duck hunting.

768
01:06:09,780 --> 01:06:10,780
You want to go hunt some...

769
01:06:10,780 --> 01:06:11,780
You want to go hunt some...

770
01:06:11,780 --> 01:06:12,780
You want to go hunt some partridge?

771
01:06:12,780 --> 01:06:14,780
You want to go turkey hunting?

772
01:06:14,780 --> 01:06:15,780
Go turkey hunting?

773
01:06:15,780 --> 01:06:17,780
You want to go pop a bear?

774
01:06:17,780 --> 01:06:18,780
Go pop a bear?

775
01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:19,780
Kaios?

776
01:06:19,780 --> 01:06:20,780
Go bust kaios?

777
01:06:20,780 --> 01:06:21,780
Like, you can do whatever you want.

778
01:06:21,780 --> 01:06:22,780
I...

779
01:06:22,780 --> 01:06:23,780
I love fall time.

780
01:06:27,780 --> 01:06:30,780
So I was telling Josh when he got up there,

781
01:06:30,780 --> 01:06:32,780
oh, man, you gotta get a gun.

782
01:06:32,780 --> 01:06:33,780
What?

783
01:06:33,780 --> 01:06:34,780
No, I can't get...

784
01:06:34,780 --> 01:06:36,780
I'm like, dude, you gotta get one, dude.

785
01:06:36,780 --> 01:06:37,780
I'm like, you gotta get a gun.

786
01:06:37,780 --> 01:06:38,780
I'm like, you gotta get a gun.

787
01:06:38,780 --> 01:06:39,780
I'm like, go hunting, dude.

788
01:06:39,780 --> 01:06:40,780
Like...

789
01:06:40,780 --> 01:06:42,780
Why do I need to go hunting?

790
01:06:42,780 --> 01:06:43,780
Am I?

791
01:06:43,780 --> 01:06:44,780
To know where your meat came from.

792
01:06:44,780 --> 01:06:47,780
Yeah, I guess you're right.

793
01:06:47,780 --> 01:06:54,780
You know, that's all you need is one.

794
01:06:54,780 --> 01:07:02,780
It gets you a little 410.

795
01:07:02,780 --> 01:07:04,780
Yeah, I just need a super one.

796
01:07:04,780 --> 01:07:07,780
Okay, you can pop some birds.

797
01:07:07,780 --> 01:07:09,780
Say with my 22 Meg.

798
01:07:09,780 --> 01:07:11,780
Yeah, 22 Meg.

799
01:07:11,780 --> 01:07:13,780
Right to the head.

800
01:07:14,780 --> 01:07:17,780
You have to take a piece of birds.

801
01:07:30,780 --> 01:07:31,780
You know, you can put in there.

802
01:07:31,780 --> 01:07:33,780
Marcus said, if it flies, it dies.

803
01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:35,780
And if it's brown, it's down.

804
01:07:35,780 --> 01:07:37,780
The fall time.

805
01:07:40,780 --> 01:07:41,780
What is...

806
01:07:41,780 --> 01:07:43,780
What does that sound like?

807
01:07:43,780 --> 01:07:46,780
It's like a deer.

808
01:07:46,780 --> 01:07:47,780
It's like a deer.

809
01:07:47,780 --> 01:07:48,780
Like, bambi.

810
01:07:48,780 --> 01:07:49,780
If it's bambi.

811
01:07:49,780 --> 01:07:50,780
If it's a dog.

812
01:07:50,780 --> 01:07:51,780
If it's a dog.

813
01:07:51,780 --> 01:07:53,780
Throw a lead.

814
01:07:53,780 --> 01:07:56,780
Throw a lead.

815
01:07:56,780 --> 01:07:59,780
You know, that's something my Uncle Rob told me when I was...

816
01:07:59,780 --> 01:08:00,780
You're a throw a lead.

817
01:08:00,780 --> 01:08:02,780
You know, that's what I was...

818
01:08:02,780 --> 01:08:03,780
It was a...

819
01:08:03,780 --> 01:08:04,780
I went hunting.

820
01:08:04,780 --> 01:08:06,780
He took me hunting and when I shot my first deer,

821
01:08:06,780 --> 01:08:09,780
he was like, Marcus, I'm gonna tell you something that my dad told me.

822
01:08:09,780 --> 01:08:11,780
You see fur in that skull.

823
01:08:11,780 --> 01:08:12,780
Throw a lead.

824
01:08:12,780 --> 01:08:15,780
You just throw a lead, my boy throw a lead.

825
01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:16,780
You sure Uncle?

826
01:08:16,780 --> 01:08:17,780
Yup, you throw a lead.

827
01:08:17,780 --> 01:08:20,780
He was like, don't listen to me because it was the night before

828
01:08:20,780 --> 01:08:23,780
we're hunting down at his brother Dave's cabin.

829
01:08:23,780 --> 01:08:27,780
And I had a deer in the skull.

830
01:08:27,780 --> 01:08:29,780
And don't shoot it.

831
01:08:29,780 --> 01:08:30,780
Don't shoot it.

832
01:08:30,780 --> 01:08:31,780
Don't shoot it.

833
01:08:31,780 --> 01:08:32,780
So I didn't shoot.

834
01:08:32,780 --> 01:08:33,780
Then...

835
01:08:33,780 --> 01:08:34,780
Did you see a deer?

836
01:08:34,780 --> 01:08:36,780
Yeah, I was gonna shoot it, but he told me not to.

837
01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:38,780
Oh, don't listen to me.

838
01:08:38,780 --> 01:08:44,780
Every time I'm hunting and I see fur, I'm throwing lead.

839
01:08:44,780 --> 01:08:49,780
I feel like I failed if I didn't pull the trigger and I've seen something.

840
01:08:49,780 --> 01:08:55,780
Even if I missed, I knew I took the shot, you know?

841
01:08:55,780 --> 01:08:57,780
Because you never know...

842
01:08:57,780 --> 01:09:03,780
Shit, I might have tumbled their song and hit it.

843
01:09:03,780 --> 01:09:05,780
Yeah, oh yeah, it's another one too.

844
01:09:05,780 --> 01:09:07,780
My uncle Rob, yeah.

845
01:09:07,780 --> 01:09:14,780
I went hunting with my brother Scott and we seen Bullwinkle come on.

846
01:09:14,780 --> 01:09:16,780
But all I seen was ass.

847
01:09:16,780 --> 01:09:18,780
God damn it, Scottie.

848
01:09:18,780 --> 01:09:22,780
He's like, I shot lots of big deer in the ass, but they're always on the ground.

849
01:09:22,780 --> 01:09:25,780
He's like, you would have had him on the ground.

850
01:09:25,780 --> 01:09:31,780
He was like, oh man, he was really kicking himself in the ass after that.

851
01:09:31,780 --> 01:09:35,780
Yeah, I'm just gonna show him how to take the cheeks over a quick.

852
01:09:39,780 --> 01:09:41,780
See, then you get one.

853
01:09:48,780 --> 01:09:49,780
I think I zoom in.

854
01:09:54,780 --> 01:09:55,780
Yeah, two.

855
01:09:55,780 --> 01:09:56,780
Wow, that's nice.

856
01:09:56,780 --> 01:09:58,780
Yeah, see, so it's like...

857
01:09:59,780 --> 01:10:00,780
That's a scallop.

858
01:10:00,780 --> 01:10:02,780
It's a bad river scallop right there.

859
01:10:04,780 --> 01:10:06,780
But yeah, that's what we usually do.

860
01:10:06,780 --> 01:10:08,780
You got the cheeks, you'll take the cheeks over, you know?

861
01:10:10,780 --> 01:10:12,780
Yeah, it's a bad river scallop.

862
01:10:19,780 --> 01:10:21,780
Yup, shoot him in the ass.

863
01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:23,780
Oh yeah, that's what my uncle wrote.

864
01:10:23,780 --> 01:10:25,780
If you see a big one, shoot him.

865
01:10:25,780 --> 01:10:27,780
Even if it's in the ass, you'll get him on the ground.

866
01:10:28,780 --> 01:10:33,780
He shot a really big butt, really big nine pointer in velvet one time,

867
01:10:33,780 --> 01:10:37,780
and he shot that one in the ass, so he always told me.

868
01:10:37,780 --> 01:10:39,780
Remember that big nine pointer I shot?

869
01:10:39,780 --> 01:10:41,780
Yeah, shot that one in the ass.

870
01:10:41,780 --> 01:10:43,780
Yup, let's look at him though.

871
01:10:52,780 --> 01:10:53,780
That's it.

872
01:10:54,780 --> 01:10:56,780
That buck is still at the test.

873
01:10:56,780 --> 01:11:01,780
He said he put it, or you said he put it in the freezer here.

874
01:11:01,780 --> 01:11:04,780
He took it up to the test and there missed it.

875
01:11:04,780 --> 01:11:08,780
I think I wanted too much or at least half of that.

876
01:11:08,780 --> 01:11:10,780
You know, I'll take it for you.

877
01:11:10,780 --> 01:11:11,780
What?

878
01:11:11,780 --> 01:11:13,780
I have never done that.

879
01:11:13,780 --> 01:11:15,780
So the test is still at it.

880
01:11:16,780 --> 01:11:18,780
Nice velvet buck.

881
01:11:19,780 --> 01:11:20,780
Yup.

882
01:11:37,780 --> 01:11:42,780
This is the size of the way that people should be for.

883
01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:45,780
Yeah, this is the size you shouldn't be eating.

884
01:11:46,780 --> 01:11:50,780
But again, I grew up my whole life.

885
01:11:50,780 --> 01:11:54,780
We wouldn't put this back, but my uncle would be like,

886
01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:56,780
we put this in our pile.

887
01:11:56,780 --> 01:11:58,780
He'd be like, this is for me and you.

888
01:11:58,780 --> 01:11:59,780
Like this?

889
01:11:59,780 --> 01:12:01,780
It's for the women and children.

890
01:12:01,780 --> 01:12:03,780
It's for the men.

891
01:12:03,780 --> 01:12:05,780
Poison the men.

892
01:12:05,780 --> 01:12:08,780
We don't need to live that much longer.

893
01:12:08,780 --> 01:12:09,780
We're all right.

894
01:12:10,780 --> 01:12:13,780
But no, that's all.

895
01:12:13,780 --> 01:12:15,780
I still think that way.

896
01:12:15,780 --> 01:12:17,780
It's like no.

897
01:12:17,780 --> 01:12:19,780
Women and children get the little ones.

898
01:12:19,780 --> 01:12:21,780
Men can get the big huge ones.

899
01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:23,780
We can poison ourselves.

900
01:12:23,780 --> 01:12:25,780
We're doing our part.

901
01:12:25,780 --> 01:12:28,780
We're getting the fish for them.

902
01:12:28,780 --> 01:12:29,780
Yup.

903
01:12:40,780 --> 01:12:42,780
Did I tell you what this was?

904
01:12:42,780 --> 01:12:43,780
No.

905
01:12:43,780 --> 01:12:45,780
This is a female spent.

906
01:12:49,780 --> 01:12:52,780
There's only one female that had a bunch of eggs in it.

907
01:12:52,780 --> 01:12:54,780
There's a lot of fish in it.

908
01:12:54,780 --> 01:12:56,780
Oh, it's good oats.

909
01:12:56,780 --> 01:12:57,780
A little perch.

910
01:12:57,780 --> 01:12:59,780
It's perfect size.

911
01:12:59,780 --> 01:13:00,780
Bye.

912
01:13:01,780 --> 01:13:03,780
Yeah, there you go.

913
01:13:03,780 --> 01:13:05,780
It's a kind of raffle.

914
01:13:05,780 --> 01:13:07,780
That's how it happens.

915
01:13:08,780 --> 01:13:10,780
In the plankton, all the little critters,

916
01:13:10,780 --> 01:13:12,780
all the little invertebrates here.

917
01:13:12,780 --> 01:13:14,780
This is a little nugget for that one.

918
01:13:14,780 --> 01:13:17,780
You see, it can eat at least five or six.

919
01:13:17,780 --> 01:13:21,780
Yeah, because look at those little gullets fall.

920
01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:23,780
See, that's here.

921
01:13:23,780 --> 01:13:24,780
Oh, look at that.

922
01:13:24,780 --> 01:13:26,780
What kind of lure do you get to control with?

923
01:13:26,780 --> 01:13:27,780
You got a little perch.

924
01:13:27,780 --> 01:13:29,780
That's something.

925
01:13:29,780 --> 01:13:30,780
Show it.

926
01:13:30,780 --> 01:13:32,780
It's always on the river, like crazy.

927
01:13:32,780 --> 01:13:34,780
You want to get another one right here?

928
01:13:34,780 --> 01:13:36,780
You want to come across a school, right?

929
01:13:36,780 --> 01:13:37,780
No, you don't.

930
01:13:37,780 --> 01:13:38,780
You don't want to.

931
01:13:39,780 --> 01:13:40,780
Hey.

932
01:13:40,780 --> 01:13:41,780
Fermin.

933
01:13:44,780 --> 01:13:45,780
It's a catch.

934
01:13:45,780 --> 01:13:47,780
Take it all over the desk.

935
01:13:47,780 --> 01:13:48,780
Use a puree now.

936
01:13:48,780 --> 01:13:54,780
Yeah, and these fish come from a closed system,

937
01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:57,780
which is just an inland lake that's locked off

938
01:13:57,780 --> 01:13:59,780
from the big lake.

939
01:13:59,780 --> 01:14:01,780
If these were from the big lake,

940
01:14:01,780 --> 01:14:03,780
they wouldn't have these perch in them.

941
01:14:03,780 --> 01:14:04,780
They'd have smelt in them.

942
01:14:04,780 --> 01:14:07,780
Because that's how our system, the river is,

943
01:14:07,780 --> 01:14:08,780
is an open system.

944
01:14:08,780 --> 01:14:10,780
So that's what we got.

945
01:14:10,780 --> 01:14:13,780
When we cut up open hours, like at this time,

946
01:14:13,780 --> 01:14:15,780
or in the springtime or early summer,

947
01:14:15,780 --> 01:14:17,780
it's all smelt.

948
01:14:17,780 --> 01:14:19,780
Don't really got a whole lot of perch.

949
01:14:19,780 --> 01:14:21,780
I noticed that when I was fully enough,

950
01:14:21,780 --> 01:14:23,780
all these inland lakes,

951
01:14:23,780 --> 01:14:26,780
that if they had anything in them, it was all little perch.

952
01:14:27,780 --> 01:14:31,780
Because they starve themselves before,

953
01:14:31,780 --> 01:14:34,780
and then after the, like, when they,

954
01:14:34,780 --> 01:14:38,780
it's like, before they spawn, they, like, starve themselves,

955
01:14:38,780 --> 01:14:39,780
right?

956
01:14:39,780 --> 01:14:42,780
And then it's like after, when they come back out,

957
01:14:42,780 --> 01:14:43,780
they're hungry as crap.

958
01:14:43,780 --> 01:14:44,780
Yeah, eating everything up.

959
01:14:44,780 --> 01:14:45,780
Yeah.

960
01:14:45,780 --> 01:14:47,780
Oh, yeah, in the springtime.

961
01:14:47,780 --> 01:14:49,780
It's awesome trolling.

962
01:14:49,780 --> 01:14:52,780
Awesome trolling.

963
01:14:53,780 --> 01:14:54,780
Yeah.

964
01:14:54,780 --> 01:14:55,780
It's awesome trolling.

965
01:14:55,780 --> 01:14:56,780
Awesome trolling.

966
01:14:56,780 --> 01:14:57,780
Yeah.

967
01:14:57,780 --> 01:15:18,780
Man, they're, I've never really had musky.

968
01:15:18,780 --> 01:15:20,780
But I've eaten northern my entire life,

969
01:15:20,780 --> 01:15:21,780
so I'm pretty sure it's,

970
01:15:21,780 --> 01:15:22,780
better.

971
01:15:22,780 --> 01:15:23,780
Is it?

972
01:15:23,780 --> 01:15:26,780
Yeah, I'm straight up through all that in my book.

973
01:15:26,780 --> 01:15:27,780
No way.

974
01:15:27,780 --> 01:15:28,780
Yeah.

975
01:15:28,780 --> 01:15:29,780
Right underneath it.

976
01:15:29,780 --> 01:15:30,780
Yeah.

977
01:15:30,780 --> 01:15:31,780
Underneath it.

978
01:15:31,780 --> 01:15:33,780
And it'd be a full perch.

979
01:15:33,780 --> 01:15:35,780
The walleye perch,

980
01:15:35,780 --> 01:15:39,780
musky, and all three of those woody.

981
01:15:40,780 --> 01:15:49,780
And musky at the wide room, like, in northern?

982
01:15:49,780 --> 01:15:50,780
Yeah.

983
01:15:50,780 --> 01:15:51,780
Yeah.

984
01:15:51,780 --> 01:15:54,780
And that's why they go home to you.

985
01:15:54,780 --> 01:15:55,780
But it's fair.

986
01:15:55,780 --> 01:15:56,780
We're allowed to win.

987
01:15:56,780 --> 01:15:59,780
I know how to cut it wrong, but, you know,

988
01:15:59,780 --> 01:16:01,780
the way I've learned how to do them is like,

989
01:16:01,780 --> 01:16:05,780
like, if this was a, if this was like a northern or a musky,

990
01:16:06,780 --> 01:16:09,780
I would come down the back and hit this big filet,

991
01:16:09,780 --> 01:16:11,780
because they don't have this, like, big dorsal fin.

992
01:16:11,780 --> 01:16:14,780
There's, like, a big chunk of meat here.

993
01:16:14,780 --> 01:16:17,780
So I'd hit that and have, like, that chillin'.

994
01:16:17,780 --> 01:16:18,780
And then I would, yep.

995
01:16:18,780 --> 01:16:20,780
And then I'd just hit the tails.

996
01:16:20,780 --> 01:16:23,780
And then if you really want, you're really hard up,

997
01:16:23,780 --> 01:16:26,780
then you can go down the side.

998
01:16:26,780 --> 01:16:29,780
And then you can get, like, a decent square of meat,

999
01:16:29,780 --> 01:16:30,780
but it's really thin.

1000
01:16:30,780 --> 01:16:33,780
So I was just left out for the critters and the eagles.

1001
01:16:33,780 --> 01:16:35,780
I'm like, ah, they need something to eat, too.

1002
01:16:35,780 --> 01:16:37,780
They can have that.

1003
01:16:37,780 --> 01:16:41,780
But, yeah, my uncle Steve showed me how to cut them all away.

1004
01:16:48,780 --> 01:16:51,780
You know, leave it there on the musky, though, huh?

1005
01:17:04,780 --> 01:17:11,780
Sometimes I get, um, we get them and they've been speared.

1006
01:17:11,780 --> 01:17:15,780
So, like, they, if you're a master spear, you go for the head.

1007
01:17:15,780 --> 01:17:16,780
They go for headshots.

1008
01:17:16,780 --> 01:17:19,780
But, like, the young kids in, like, youngsters are first timers.

1009
01:17:19,780 --> 01:17:21,780
They get them in the body.

1010
01:17:21,780 --> 01:17:24,780
But when the, the master dudes hit them,

1011
01:17:24,780 --> 01:17:26,780
sometimes I don't get autolist.

1012
01:17:26,780 --> 01:17:28,780
The autolist, they're all blown out.

1013
01:17:28,780 --> 01:17:31,780
Or, like, thankfully, like, all year I've been lucked out.

1014
01:17:31,780 --> 01:17:35,780
And, like, I've found one or, like, part of one or something.

1015
01:17:35,780 --> 01:17:40,780
But, yeah, usually they, the master javers can, they, yeah,

1016
01:17:40,780 --> 01:17:41,780
they just blow it out.

1017
01:17:41,780 --> 01:17:42,780
Ain't nothing left there.

1018
01:17:50,780 --> 01:17:53,780
Yeah, and, like I said, I've, I've speared two,

1019
01:17:53,780 --> 01:17:56,780
but it's, it's a lot of work, spearing, like, for real.

1020
01:17:56,780 --> 01:17:59,780
It's, people don't think it's a lot of work, but it is.

1021
01:17:59,780 --> 01:18:03,780
Like, when you think about, I'll put it to you this way.

1022
01:18:03,780 --> 01:18:07,780
What, what sounds easier to you, going, take in,

1023
01:18:07,780 --> 01:18:11,780
take in a couple hours to go down the road, put a net in

1024
01:18:11,780 --> 01:18:15,780
that might take, like, what, an hour and a half to set,

1025
01:18:15,780 --> 01:18:18,780
then going home and chilling all night, checking in the morning.

1026
01:18:18,780 --> 01:18:23,780
Or, would you rather pack up for a couple hours,

1027
01:18:23,780 --> 01:18:28,780
get you and your buddy, load up the boat, go gas up the boat,

1028
01:18:28,780 --> 01:18:33,780
and your truck, drive maybe four or five hours to a lake,

1029
01:18:33,780 --> 01:18:38,780
wait till it gets dark, then go jab all night until you

1030
01:18:38,780 --> 01:18:41,780
meet your quota, or you might not meet your quota.

1031
01:18:41,780 --> 01:18:44,780
Come in, wait for the Creole Clerks to count all your fish,

1032
01:18:44,780 --> 01:18:46,780
because they gotta sit there and count your fish.

1033
01:18:46,780 --> 01:18:51,780
Then, you gotta load up your fish, drive all the way back home,

1034
01:18:51,780 --> 01:18:55,780
and now you gotta contemplate, do I stay out and fillet all these

1035
01:18:55,780 --> 01:18:59,780
fish, or do I put them in the cooler and go to bed?

1036
01:18:59,780 --> 01:19:03,780
Yeah, it's like, to me, it doesn't make any sense.

1037
01:19:03,780 --> 01:19:08,780
But, I understand that our ancestors fought for the

1038
01:19:08,780 --> 01:19:11,780
rights for us to, like, continue doing that.

1039
01:19:11,780 --> 01:19:16,780
So, it's important too, but to me, I'd rather go set a net.

1040
01:19:16,780 --> 01:19:18,780
I'm a net guy.

1041
01:19:18,780 --> 01:19:21,780
You can't set nets on the lake, so, right?

1042
01:19:22,780 --> 01:19:30,780
We can do, it depends like the time of year.

1043
01:19:30,780 --> 01:19:33,780
So, like, if you went out in the springtime and tried to do

1044
01:19:33,780 --> 01:19:36,780
what we call, like, a lake set, so, like, that would be,

1045
01:19:36,780 --> 01:19:42,780
just say, say this is, say this is, like, the beach, right?

1046
01:19:42,780 --> 01:19:44,780
This is the lake.

1047
01:19:44,780 --> 01:19:47,780
Our nets are gonna be sitting out like this.

1048
01:19:47,780 --> 01:19:50,780
Like, we got it anchored to a point, and then we got stretched

1049
01:19:50,780 --> 01:19:52,780
out, and it stops right here.

1050
01:19:52,780 --> 01:19:55,780
Like, if we tried to do that in the springtime,

1051
01:19:55,780 --> 01:19:58,780
this is gonna be loaded up with suckers.

1052
01:19:58,780 --> 01:19:59,780
None but suckers.

1053
01:19:59,780 --> 01:20:02,780
You're gonna have a biomass of, like, 5,000 suckers.

1054
01:20:02,780 --> 01:20:05,780
You're gonna have, in every hole, you're gonna have a sucker.

1055
01:20:05,780 --> 01:20:10,780
You might get five lake fish out of all them suckers.

1056
01:20:10,780 --> 01:20:13,780
So, it's like, you gotta wait till, like, summertime, like, right?

1057
01:20:13,780 --> 01:20:15,780
Like, middle of summer?

1058
01:20:15,780 --> 01:20:17,780
Yeah, like, that's when you can go do a lake set,

1059
01:20:17,780 --> 01:20:19,780
and you'll catch some good Lakers.

1060
01:20:19,780 --> 01:20:22,780
You'll catch a nice lake fish, white fish.

1061
01:20:22,780 --> 01:20:27,780
But it depends on when you do it, and I guess the wave action,

1062
01:20:27,780 --> 01:20:29,780
too, when you're doing it.

1063
01:20:29,780 --> 01:20:33,780
Because we used to try to do lake sets when I was younger,

1064
01:20:33,780 --> 01:20:37,780
but every time we did, biomass of suckers,

1065
01:20:37,780 --> 01:20:42,780
or there's a lot of trees and stuff coming out,

1066
01:20:42,780 --> 01:20:45,780
like, from the spring washout and stuff.

1067
01:20:45,780 --> 01:20:47,780
So, it's like, every once in a while, you might get, like,

1068
01:20:47,780 --> 01:20:49,780
water or something wrapped up in your net,

1069
01:20:49,780 --> 01:20:51,780
then you're sitting there all day,

1070
01:20:51,780 --> 01:20:55,780
on tingling the net, cutting your net, cutting the rope,

1071
01:20:55,780 --> 01:20:58,780
like, pissed off, man.

1072
01:20:58,780 --> 01:21:04,780
So, yeah, it's, uh, you can, yeah, there's,

1073
01:21:04,780 --> 01:21:08,780
but there's a difference between, like, setting out in the lake

1074
01:21:08,780 --> 01:21:10,780
and, like, doing a lake set.

1075
01:21:10,780 --> 01:21:14,780
So, I'm, from what I was told, we used to be able to do,

1076
01:21:14,780 --> 01:21:16,780
to set out in the lake.

1077
01:21:16,780 --> 01:21:20,780
But, like, everybody in their grandma was doing that back in the day,

1078
01:21:20,780 --> 01:21:22,780
so we, like, kind of, fished it out.

1079
01:21:22,780 --> 01:21:25,780
So, they put a kibosh on that.

1080
01:21:25,780 --> 01:21:27,780
And now it's, like, if you want to fish out there,

1081
01:21:27,780 --> 01:21:31,780
you got to have a commercial fishing license, or whatever.

1082
01:21:31,780 --> 01:21:35,780
My grandpa used to do lake sets, and...

1083
01:21:35,780 --> 01:21:36,780
In the lake.

1084
01:21:36,780 --> 01:21:38,780
But, yeah, um, they...

1085
01:21:38,780 --> 01:21:41,780
Can we do one, or get a spear, or commit?

1086
01:21:41,780 --> 01:21:43,780
Yeah, so, yeah.

1087
01:21:43,780 --> 01:21:45,780
So...

1088
01:21:45,780 --> 01:21:47,780
Can you put a fish?

1089
01:21:47,780 --> 01:21:49,780
Yeah, netting those fishes.

1090
01:21:49,780 --> 01:21:50,780
Yeah.

1091
01:21:50,780 --> 01:21:53,780
But, yeah, and then, uh, another thing, too, is...

1092
01:21:53,780 --> 01:21:54,780
Totally.

1093
01:21:54,780 --> 01:21:58,780
Okay, you might go out all night, and say your quota for the lake

1094
01:21:58,780 --> 01:22:00,780
is, um, 75 fish a person.

1095
01:22:00,780 --> 01:22:03,780
You go out there with two or three guys, all right?

1096
01:22:03,780 --> 01:22:08,780
So, now you got to get all them fish, or try to get all them fish,

1097
01:22:08,780 --> 01:22:12,780
and you might not get them all, or you might be on a poopy lake,

1098
01:22:12,780 --> 01:22:13,780
or a duck.

1099
01:22:13,780 --> 01:22:14,780
Remember, I was telling you about duck.

1100
01:22:14,780 --> 01:22:15,780
It was really bad.

1101
01:22:15,780 --> 01:22:18,780
So, you're sitting there, and you think you're going to get all these fish,

1102
01:22:18,780 --> 01:22:19,780
and you don't.

1103
01:22:19,780 --> 01:22:22,780
At least I know I go set up a net.

1104
01:22:22,780 --> 01:22:26,780
I'm guaranteed that at least get 20 or 30 fish in the morning.

1105
01:22:26,780 --> 01:22:27,780
Like...

1106
01:22:27,780 --> 01:22:34,780
So, yeah, I just feel like setting a net is more safer.

1107
01:22:34,780 --> 01:22:36,780
I'm guaranteed fish.

1108
01:22:36,780 --> 01:22:41,780
That's what I'm trying to get at.

1109
01:22:42,780 --> 01:22:49,780
And again, I can choose if I want to camp on my net, or if I want to go home.

1110
01:22:49,780 --> 01:22:54,780
I don't have to sit out there.

1111
01:22:54,780 --> 01:22:55,780
Did it?

1112
01:22:55,780 --> 01:22:56,780
I was wondering.

1113
01:22:56,780 --> 01:23:03,780
This is a male.

1114
01:23:03,780 --> 01:23:04,780
But they're both very important.

1115
01:23:04,780 --> 01:23:10,780
I guess it just depends on how much work you're willing to put into

1116
01:23:11,780 --> 01:23:14,780
getting your harvest.

1117
01:23:14,780 --> 01:23:20,780
Me, I'm all about getting the most for the least amount of work.

1118
01:23:20,780 --> 01:23:24,780
But, um, flammable.

1119
01:23:24,780 --> 01:23:31,780
We did, when I went out there, the crew I was with, we did, um...

1120
01:23:31,780 --> 01:23:32,780
What the heck?

1121
01:23:32,780 --> 01:23:33,780
There was star.

1122
01:23:33,780 --> 01:23:34,780
We did oxbow.

1123
01:23:34,780 --> 01:23:36,780
We did squirrel.

1124
01:23:36,780 --> 01:23:38,780
We did tenderfoot.

1125
01:23:38,780 --> 01:23:43,780
We did amber.

1126
01:23:43,780 --> 01:23:44,780
Um...

1127
01:23:44,780 --> 01:23:47,780
What other one did we do?

1128
01:23:47,780 --> 01:23:48,780
I swear we did another one.

1129
01:23:48,780 --> 01:23:49,780
Oh, Annabelle.

1130
01:23:49,780 --> 01:23:52,780
The reason I'm thinking of that is because we're taking fish too.

1131
01:23:52,780 --> 01:23:58,780
And in Oxbow, there's a tributary between Annabelle and Oxbow.

1132
01:23:58,780 --> 01:24:00,780
Annabelle is kind of a hot lake.

1133
01:24:00,780 --> 01:24:04,780
It's not as hot as this foot, but it has higher mercury levels.

1134
01:24:04,780 --> 01:24:07,780
And, um...

1135
01:24:07,780 --> 01:24:09,780
They never did tags in Oxbow.

1136
01:24:09,780 --> 01:24:11,780
We were just doing finclips.

1137
01:24:11,780 --> 01:24:15,780
And we were touching fish that had tags.

1138
01:24:15,780 --> 01:24:19,780
And I'm not sure if Josh did...

1139
01:24:19,780 --> 01:24:23,780
He's got a hold of Brandon to see where that tag came from.

1140
01:24:23,780 --> 01:24:27,780
But we're pretty sure it came from Annabelle because it's...

1141
01:24:27,780 --> 01:24:30,780
And when we did that lake, we actually caught...

1142
01:24:30,780 --> 01:24:32,780
I can't remember if there was three or four fish.

1143
01:24:32,780 --> 01:24:34,780
And Butch was like...

1144
01:24:34,780 --> 01:24:36,780
He was saying that's probably not good either.

1145
01:24:36,780 --> 01:24:40,780
Because it means that then fish are trying to leave that lake for a reason.

1146
01:24:40,780 --> 01:24:42,780
Like, so it's...

1147
01:24:46,780 --> 01:24:49,780
So I was saying Butch has a lot of knowledge on that stuff.

1148
01:24:49,780 --> 01:24:51,780
Like he's...

1149
01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:55,780
And that was telling us that, man, you're a real asset.

1150
01:24:55,780 --> 01:24:57,780
And it's like you're gonna be leaving.

1151
01:24:57,780 --> 01:24:59,780
Oh, there it is.

1152
01:24:59,780 --> 01:25:01,780
He was like, ah, there'll be other people.

1153
01:25:01,780 --> 01:25:06,780
Oh, yeah.

1154
01:25:06,780 --> 01:25:10,780
My name is Marcus Krasko.

1155
01:25:10,780 --> 01:25:16,780
M-A-R-C-U-S-C-A-R-R-A-S-C-O.

1156
01:25:16,780 --> 01:25:19,780
I'm a lab aide.

1157
01:25:19,780 --> 01:25:21,780
And...

1158
01:25:21,780 --> 01:25:24,780
Is this here to cut up fish?

1159
01:25:24,780 --> 01:25:30,780
Yeah, yeah, my title is a lab aide.

1160
01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:33,780
Because I'm aiding him in his studies.

1161
01:25:33,780 --> 01:25:35,780
I think we also do a lot of other things.

1162
01:25:35,780 --> 01:25:36,780
Yeah, but whatever...

1163
01:25:36,780 --> 01:25:38,780
Whatever the work was...

1164
01:25:38,780 --> 01:25:40,780
The tribe, the river, or is it worth it?

1165
01:25:40,780 --> 01:25:42,780
It's worth good for anything that I've done.

1166
01:25:42,780 --> 01:25:44,780
Like, that has been worth good for it.

1167
01:25:44,780 --> 01:25:46,780
Um, the...

1168
01:25:46,780 --> 01:25:47,780
Good for it...

1169
01:25:47,780 --> 01:25:53,780
Once you're like in here, they tend to want to use the employees that they got.

1170
01:25:53,780 --> 01:25:56,780
So it's like if something comes up like...

1171
01:25:56,780 --> 01:25:59,780
Shocking, stuff like that.

1172
01:25:59,780 --> 01:26:04,780
So they'll ask internally, like, who's available for how long?

1173
01:26:04,780 --> 01:26:09,780
And that's where I got connected with butchering them on that.

1174
01:26:09,780 --> 01:26:10,780
So...

1175
01:26:10,780 --> 01:26:14,780
Because we had a little bit of a lull where we weren't getting fish.

1176
01:26:14,780 --> 01:26:16,780
So it was...

1177
01:26:16,780 --> 01:26:20,780
I did the fish that we did for the lakes that we got.

1178
01:26:20,780 --> 01:26:22,780
And then it was...

1179
01:26:22,780 --> 01:26:25,780
I got to go shocking for a couple weeks.

1180
01:26:25,780 --> 01:26:28,780
That was a cool experience and everything.

1181
01:26:28,780 --> 01:26:31,780
Like I said, learned a lot doing that.

1182
01:26:31,780 --> 01:26:32,780
And...

1183
01:26:32,780 --> 01:26:33,780
Yeah.

1184
01:26:33,780 --> 01:26:36,780
And you're also an enrolled member of the...

1185
01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:38,780
Yeah, I'm an enrolled member.

1186
01:26:38,780 --> 01:26:41,780
I've lived here my whole life.

1187
01:26:41,780 --> 01:26:42,780
So...

1188
01:26:42,780 --> 01:26:47,780
Like, I was trying to say it for doing stuff like this really means a lot to me.

1189
01:26:47,780 --> 01:26:52,780
It just makes me feel like I'm making a difference.

1190
01:26:52,780 --> 01:26:57,780
I guess everybody kind of wants to feel like they're doing something positive, you know?

1191
01:26:57,780 --> 01:27:01,780
But yeah, doing this type of work really makes me feel like I'm doing a different...

1192
01:27:01,780 --> 01:27:03,780
Doing something positive.

1193
01:27:03,780 --> 01:27:04,780
And...

1194
01:27:04,780 --> 01:27:13,780
What's the difference between you when you were younger and you guys would harvest and then share with the community versus the feeling now when you're on this set?

1195
01:27:13,780 --> 01:27:15,780
Well, I still do that.

1196
01:27:15,780 --> 01:27:20,780
Like, if I'm hunting or fishing and I got...

1197
01:27:20,780 --> 01:27:22,780
And I'm getting a lot.

1198
01:27:22,780 --> 01:27:25,780
I was always taught, like, you share.

1199
01:27:25,780 --> 01:27:28,780
Like, you share with your family.

1200
01:27:28,780 --> 01:27:29,780
And...

1201
01:27:29,780 --> 01:27:33,780
Like, it's just...

1202
01:27:33,780 --> 01:27:39,780
I guess being on this side of it, I'm more aware of, like, the consumption end of it.

1203
01:27:39,780 --> 01:27:45,780
Because again, it was just, like, load up on fish, like, have all the fish you need, you know?

1204
01:27:45,780 --> 01:27:49,780
Like, have enough fish that you know it's going to last you a year.

1205
01:27:49,780 --> 01:27:55,780
But now it's like, I'm learning about how much is...

1206
01:27:55,780 --> 01:27:57,780
Like, how much is safe?

1207
01:27:57,780 --> 01:28:00,780
Like, a safe amount to consume?

1208
01:28:00,780 --> 01:28:02,780
How much is not a safe amount?

1209
01:28:02,780 --> 01:28:04,780
Like, I...

1210
01:28:04,780 --> 01:28:09,780
Again, I used to think eating fish twice a month was, like, normal.

1211
01:28:09,780 --> 01:28:13,780
Or even more, like, maybe, like, four times a month was normal.

1212
01:28:13,780 --> 01:28:14,780
But it's really not.

1213
01:28:14,780 --> 01:28:16,780
Like, you shouldn't be doing that.

1214
01:28:17,780 --> 01:28:20,780
And it's just not good for your body.

1215
01:28:20,780 --> 01:28:22,780
It's not good for your family and everything.

1216
01:28:22,780 --> 01:28:30,780
And I didn't know until, like, talking with Josh and everything more and reading about mercury and, like, methyl mercury and stuff.

1217
01:28:30,780 --> 01:28:33,780
But that doesn't just affect you.

1218
01:28:33,780 --> 01:28:36,780
It affects your descendants.

1219
01:28:36,780 --> 01:28:44,780
Like, your kids and, like, their kids are going to be affected by the mercury intake from you.

1220
01:28:44,780 --> 01:28:46,780
So, it's...

1221
01:28:46,780 --> 01:28:49,780
Yeah, so it's a little different.

1222
01:28:49,780 --> 01:28:54,780
But again, I feel like it's important to know, it's important to be part of.

1223
01:28:54,780 --> 01:28:55,780
So...

1224
01:28:55,780 --> 01:28:59,780
It's got to be a better feeling not only helping provide when you're giving knowledge with...

1225
01:28:59,780 --> 01:29:00,780
Well, yeah, exactly.

1226
01:29:00,780 --> 01:29:05,780
Like, I was telling my wife and, like, my kids, I was like, I...

1227
01:29:05,780 --> 01:29:09,780
I used to think we can just sit here and max on the fish because it's like, we got it, you know?

1228
01:29:09,780 --> 01:29:12,780
But I always tried to give them the smaller fish, you know?

1229
01:29:12,780 --> 01:29:18,780
But now it's like, dang, like, we got a bunch of fish and we can't eat it like we used to.

1230
01:29:18,780 --> 01:29:20,780
Like, we got to...

1231
01:29:20,780 --> 01:29:21,780
Like, we already...

1232
01:29:21,780 --> 01:29:23,780
For this month, we already had fish, you know?

1233
01:29:23,780 --> 01:29:25,780
So it's like, now we got to wait.

1234
01:29:25,780 --> 01:29:27,780
But again, it's not...

1235
01:29:27,780 --> 01:29:29,780
I might have a lot of fish, but it's not just for me.

1236
01:29:29,780 --> 01:29:30,780
Some...

1237
01:29:30,780 --> 01:29:33,780
Some might come up or somebody might pass away.

1238
01:29:33,780 --> 01:29:35,780
There you go. There's some fish for that or...

1239
01:29:35,780 --> 01:29:36,780
Somebody...

1240
01:29:36,780 --> 01:29:39,780
Somebody has, like, a ghost feast or sell...

1241
01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:40,780
Maybe it's not something like that.

1242
01:29:40,780 --> 01:29:41,780
Maybe it's somebody's birthday.

1243
01:29:41,780 --> 01:29:43,780
And they really wanted a fish fry.

1244
01:29:43,780 --> 01:29:44,780
So here you go, man.

1245
01:29:44,780 --> 01:29:46,780
Like, do it, have that or...

1246
01:29:46,780 --> 01:29:47,780
So...

1247
01:29:47,780 --> 01:29:48,780
Yeah, I...

1248
01:29:48,780 --> 01:29:49,780
I just...

1249
01:29:49,780 --> 01:29:50,780
Yeah, I just...

1250
01:29:50,780 --> 01:29:51,780
I was just...

1251
01:29:51,780 --> 01:29:52,780
I was taught to share.

1252
01:29:52,780 --> 01:29:53,780
I was taught to, like...

1253
01:29:53,780 --> 01:29:54,780
Don't...

1254
01:29:54,780 --> 01:29:56,780
Don't be greedy.

1255
01:29:56,780 --> 01:29:57,780
So...

1256
01:29:57,780 --> 01:29:59,780
Where does walleye break?

1257
01:29:59,780 --> 01:30:01,780
What's the importance of it being walleyed in here?

1258
01:30:01,780 --> 01:30:03,780
Oh, walleye is a walleye.

1259
01:30:03,780 --> 01:30:04,780
Like, I don't know.

1260
01:30:04,780 --> 01:30:05,780
Like, it's this...

1261
01:30:05,780 --> 01:30:07,780
Walleye is just...

1262
01:30:07,780 --> 01:30:08,780
It's just the...

1263
01:30:08,780 --> 01:30:09,780
It's just very important.

1264
01:30:09,780 --> 01:30:12,780
It's been a very important resource to...

1265
01:30:12,780 --> 01:30:13,780
Well, not just my family,

1266
01:30:13,780 --> 01:30:15,780
but, like, everybody's family, like,

1267
01:30:15,780 --> 01:30:17,780
in the Indian community, like, forever.

1268
01:30:17,780 --> 01:30:19,780
Like, it's been here.

1269
01:30:19,780 --> 01:30:20,780
It's just, like...

1270
01:30:20,780 --> 01:30:21,780
Like, sturgeon.

1271
01:30:21,780 --> 01:30:23,780
Sturgeon is very important, too.

1272
01:30:23,780 --> 01:30:24,780
But...

1273
01:30:24,780 --> 01:30:26,780
The walleye is...

1274
01:30:26,780 --> 01:30:27,780
It's...

1275
01:30:27,780 --> 01:30:28,780
Everybody wants to eat walleye.

1276
01:30:28,780 --> 01:30:29,780
Like, nobody...

1277
01:30:29,780 --> 01:30:31,780
Like, because sturgeon's like a...

1278
01:30:31,780 --> 01:30:32,780
It's like a bottom feeder.

1279
01:30:32,780 --> 01:30:34,780
It's not looked at as, like,

1280
01:30:34,780 --> 01:30:35,780
Premo.

1281
01:30:35,780 --> 01:30:36,780
You know?

1282
01:30:36,780 --> 01:30:37,780
So...

1283
01:30:37,780 --> 01:30:38,780
But walleye,

1284
01:30:38,780 --> 01:30:40,780
everybody wants to eat walleye.

1285
01:30:40,780 --> 01:30:42,780
It's top notch A1.

1286
01:30:42,780 --> 01:30:44,780
This guy, he never...

1287
01:30:44,780 --> 01:30:45,780
He never had a walleye before.

1288
01:30:45,780 --> 01:30:46,780
I was like, you kidding me?

1289
01:30:46,780 --> 01:30:48,780
I was like, dude, you're...

1290
01:30:48,780 --> 01:30:49,780
It'll boil any other fish.

1291
01:30:49,780 --> 01:30:50,780
I'm...

1292
01:30:50,780 --> 01:30:52,780
I don't care how you prepare it.

1293
01:30:52,780 --> 01:30:55,780
It smokes any other fish out of the water.

1294
01:30:55,780 --> 01:30:57,780
Like, it could be salt water, fresh water.

1295
01:30:57,780 --> 01:30:58,780
Like, don't...

1296
01:30:58,780 --> 01:31:00,780
It's just the best fish.

1297
01:31:00,780 --> 01:31:01,780
Okay?

1298
01:31:01,780 --> 01:31:02,780
And it's just...

1299
01:31:02,780 --> 01:31:04,780
It rakes high because it's just so good.

1300
01:31:04,780 --> 01:31:05,780
I don't know how to...

1301
01:31:05,780 --> 01:31:07,780
It's just a very important commodity.

1302
01:31:07,780 --> 01:31:12,780
Like, and it's because of that being...

1303
01:31:12,780 --> 01:31:14,780
It's just hard to describe.

1304
01:31:14,780 --> 01:31:15,780
It's just...

1305
01:31:15,780 --> 01:31:16,780
It's like deer.

1306
01:31:16,780 --> 01:31:18,780
Like, deer is just something that's...

1307
01:31:18,780 --> 01:31:20,780
It's just been part of our culture forever.

1308
01:31:20,780 --> 01:31:21,780
Like, it's like...

1309
01:31:21,780 --> 01:31:23,780
You just can't take it away.

1310
01:31:23,780 --> 01:31:25,780
Like, it's all...

1311
01:31:25,780 --> 01:31:26,780
Yeah, I don't know.

1312
01:31:26,780 --> 01:31:28,780
It's hard to describe, but it's just...

1313
01:31:28,780 --> 01:31:30,780
If I was to put it, it's just because

1314
01:31:30,780 --> 01:31:31,780
taste alone, you know?

1315
01:31:31,780 --> 01:31:33,780
Like, just taste-wise.

1316
01:31:33,780 --> 01:31:36,780
Like, you can put it up against any fish out there

1317
01:31:36,780 --> 01:31:40,780
and it's gonna blow them off the market.

1318
01:31:40,780 --> 01:31:41,780
Like, off the mat.

1319
01:31:41,780 --> 01:31:42,780
Like, just...

1320
01:31:42,780 --> 01:31:43,780
You can...

1321
01:31:43,780 --> 01:31:44,780
You can fry it.

1322
01:31:44,780 --> 01:31:45,780
You can bake it.

1323
01:31:45,780 --> 01:31:47,780
You can saute it.

1324
01:31:47,780 --> 01:31:48,780
You can...

1325
01:31:48,780 --> 01:31:49,780
You can...

1326
01:31:49,780 --> 01:31:50,780
You can poach it.

1327
01:31:50,780 --> 01:31:52,780
Like, you can do anything you want with it.

1328
01:31:52,780 --> 01:31:55,780
And you can make that taste incredible.

1329
01:31:55,780 --> 01:31:57,780
Like, you can...

1330
01:31:57,780 --> 01:31:59,780
You can even burn the crap out of it.

1331
01:31:59,780 --> 01:32:01,780
And I'm telling you, like...

1332
01:32:01,780 --> 01:32:03,780
We went fishing one time.

1333
01:32:03,780 --> 01:32:05,780
Don, she's the...

1334
01:32:05,780 --> 01:32:07,780
A treaty specialist here.

1335
01:32:07,780 --> 01:32:10,780
She made fish tacos and burnt the crap out of the meat

1336
01:32:10,780 --> 01:32:12,780
and it was still bomb.

1337
01:32:12,780 --> 01:32:14,780
Like, I'm telling you, it's just...

1338
01:32:14,780 --> 01:32:16,780
It's just a great fish.

1339
01:32:16,780 --> 01:32:17,780
It's a...

1340
01:32:17,780 --> 01:32:18,780
Yeah.

1341
01:32:18,780 --> 01:32:19,780
Like, I was telling, like...

1342
01:32:19,780 --> 01:32:20,780
Tell me before.

1343
01:32:20,780 --> 01:32:22,780
People won't worry about smelting stuff in the springtime.

1344
01:32:22,780 --> 01:32:24,780
It's like, man, we're all about our walleye.

1345
01:32:24,780 --> 01:32:25,780
Like, you...

1346
01:32:25,780 --> 01:32:26,780
Yeah.

1347
01:32:26,780 --> 01:32:29,780
Growing up, kids were always like,

1348
01:32:29,780 --> 01:32:31,780
oh, smelting season's right around the corner.

1349
01:32:31,780 --> 01:32:32,780
It's like, smell it.

1350
01:32:32,780 --> 01:32:33,780
Yeah, we got...

1351
01:32:33,780 --> 01:32:35,780
Yeah, we're all about walleye over here, man.

1352
01:32:35,780 --> 01:32:38,780
Like, I'll save some for you.

1353
01:32:38,780 --> 01:32:39,780
But, yeah.

1354
01:32:39,780 --> 01:32:42,780
It's just something that...

1355
01:32:42,780 --> 01:32:44,780
It's just been part of our people.

1356
01:32:44,780 --> 01:32:47,780
Creator gave it to us to help sustain us.

1357
01:32:47,780 --> 01:32:49,780
So, it's just...

1358
01:32:49,780 --> 01:32:53,780
It's very important, again, just like deer or anything else.

1359
01:32:53,780 --> 01:32:57,780
Like, it was placed here for us to sustain us.

1360
01:32:57,780 --> 01:33:01,780
So, we can make it and to carry on the next generation.

1361
01:33:01,780 --> 01:33:02,780
You know?

1362
01:33:02,780 --> 01:33:09,780
So, again, I want to be able to guarantee my kids I can catch them something, you know?

1363
01:33:09,780 --> 01:33:10,780
Like, so it's...

1364
01:33:10,780 --> 01:33:15,780
Yeah, it's all about sustainability, I guess.

1365
01:33:15,780 --> 01:33:17,780
It's like why it's so important.

1366
01:33:17,780 --> 01:33:18,780
Like, you...

1367
01:33:18,780 --> 01:33:22,780
We want to be able to provide the next generation with...

1368
01:33:22,780 --> 01:33:24,780
With this, you know?

1369
01:33:24,780 --> 01:33:29,780
Like, I never thought about it, but...

1370
01:33:30,780 --> 01:33:33,780
My ancestors really fought for...

1371
01:33:33,780 --> 01:33:36,780
My ability to come out here and go settin' it.

1372
01:33:36,780 --> 01:33:38,780
And then harvest fish.

1373
01:33:38,780 --> 01:33:39,780
So, it's...

1374
01:33:39,780 --> 01:33:42,780
Yeah, it's just important.

1375
01:33:42,780 --> 01:33:45,780
I don't know what else to say, man.

1376
01:33:45,780 --> 01:33:46,780
It's just very...

1377
01:33:46,780 --> 01:33:48,780
It's just part of who we are.

1378
01:33:48,780 --> 01:33:49,780
Just...

1379
01:33:49,780 --> 01:33:52,780
It's like anything else you got.

1380
01:33:52,780 --> 01:33:54,780
Like, the trees and stuff, too.

1381
01:33:54,780 --> 01:33:55,780
It's just part of who we are.

1382
01:33:55,780 --> 01:33:57,780
Like, maple trees.

1383
01:33:57,780 --> 01:33:59,780
It's part of tappin' trees, you know?

1384
01:33:59,780 --> 01:34:02,780
Like, we're makin' our syrup and our sugar and stuff.

1385
01:34:02,780 --> 01:34:04,780
It's just part of who we are as a people.

1386
01:34:04,780 --> 01:34:06,780
So, that's why...

1387
01:34:06,780 --> 01:34:08,780
That's why it's important.

1388
01:34:08,780 --> 01:34:09,780
It's just...

1389
01:34:09,780 --> 01:34:13,780
A resource that creator put here for us to sustain us.

1390
01:34:13,780 --> 01:34:20,780
Like, man, we've been taking advantage of it for thousands of years,

1391
01:34:20,780 --> 01:34:24,780
and I would like to see it continue as long as possible.

1392
01:34:25,780 --> 01:34:27,780
Doing stuff like this, doing work like this,

1393
01:34:27,780 --> 01:34:32,780
really does make me feel like I am providing that, you know?

1394
01:34:32,780 --> 01:34:33,780
So...

1395
01:34:33,780 --> 01:34:34,780
Great.

1396
01:34:34,780 --> 01:34:35,780
Yeah.

1397
01:34:35,780 --> 01:34:38,780
Sorry if I was just landblowing on there for a little bit,

1398
01:34:38,780 --> 01:34:39,780
but it was just...

1399
01:34:39,780 --> 01:34:41,780
Yeah, it was just like...

1400
01:34:41,780 --> 01:34:43,780
I put all this stuff here for us.

1401
01:34:43,780 --> 01:34:44,780
And it's...

1402
01:34:44,780 --> 01:34:48,780
We got to take advantage of it and treat it with respect and

1403
01:34:48,780 --> 01:34:51,780
do everything in a good way, the right way.

1404
01:34:51,780 --> 01:34:52,780
So...

1405
01:34:52,780 --> 01:34:53,780
Yeah.

1406
01:34:53,780 --> 01:34:55,780
Be able to grab the mic back from you.

1407
01:34:55,780 --> 01:34:56,780
Yeah, here you go.

1408
01:34:56,780 --> 01:34:57,780
We talked.

1409
01:34:57,780 --> 01:34:58,780
Alright.

1410
01:34:58,780 --> 01:35:03,780
So, walk me through the science of what we have here

1411
01:35:03,780 --> 01:35:06,780
and what step of the process we're at.

1412
01:35:06,780 --> 01:35:08,780
Okay, so we're at nearly the beginning.

1413
01:35:08,780 --> 01:35:10,780
We're kind of at the midway point here.

1414
01:35:10,780 --> 01:35:14,780
So, typically what we do is we have...

1415
01:35:14,780 --> 01:35:17,780
Usually we have the spears collect the fish for us,

1416
01:35:17,780 --> 01:35:20,780
and we pay usually $10 fish or so,

1417
01:35:20,780 --> 01:35:22,780
and then we try to get at least $12 per lake,

1418
01:35:22,780 --> 01:35:23,780
where we're aiming.

1419
01:35:23,780 --> 01:35:25,780
And so, that doesn't always happen.

1420
01:35:25,780 --> 01:35:29,780
Sometimes we collect the fish through population assessments,

1421
01:35:29,780 --> 01:35:31,780
and that's the way we got these,

1422
01:35:31,780 --> 01:35:33,780
and these came from Michigan,

1423
01:35:33,780 --> 01:35:36,780
from our sister agency, KBSE.

1424
01:35:36,780 --> 01:35:39,780
And so, we're assessing...

1425
01:35:39,780 --> 01:35:42,780
Right now, we're assessing the mercury content of the fish,

1426
01:35:42,780 --> 01:35:45,780
as well as the PFOS content of the fish.

1427
01:35:45,780 --> 01:35:48,780
And I say mercury, but it's actually methyl mercury.

1428
01:35:48,780 --> 01:35:50,780
There's a big difference there.

1429
01:35:50,780 --> 01:35:52,780
A lot of people, whenever you speak on that,

1430
01:35:52,780 --> 01:35:54,780
they think of the inorganic metal,

1431
01:35:54,780 --> 01:35:57,780
when really we're dealing with the organic metal,

1432
01:35:57,780 --> 01:36:00,780
which is a mercury that has been methylated

1433
01:36:00,780 --> 01:36:06,780
by typically anaerobic bacteria in, say, a marshland or a bog.

1434
01:36:06,780 --> 01:36:10,780
So, the factors that contribute to that are,

1435
01:36:10,780 --> 01:36:14,780
you know, your levels of sulfate, your pH contributes,

1436
01:36:14,780 --> 01:36:17,780
and as well as the dissolved oxygen.

1437
01:36:17,780 --> 01:36:20,780
So, as anaerobic bacteria work on this stuff,

1438
01:36:20,780 --> 01:36:23,780
a lake with lower dissolved oxygen,

1439
01:36:23,780 --> 01:36:26,780
acidity, higher acidity,

1440
01:36:26,780 --> 01:36:28,780
and then potentially higher sulfates,

1441
01:36:28,780 --> 01:36:30,780
you'll see an increase in the methyl mercury

1442
01:36:30,780 --> 01:36:32,780
in those fish populations.

1443
01:36:32,780 --> 01:36:34,780
So, it's important for you to study different lakes,

1444
01:36:34,780 --> 01:36:36,780
because even if they're next to each other,

1445
01:36:36,780 --> 01:36:38,780
the lakes may be different, right?

1446
01:36:38,780 --> 01:36:39,780
Yes, that's exactly right.

1447
01:36:39,780 --> 01:36:41,780
And we're also monitoring trends over time.

1448
01:36:41,780 --> 01:36:43,780
So, this program has been enacted since,

1449
01:36:43,780 --> 01:36:45,780
I want to say, 1996 or so.

1450
01:36:45,780 --> 01:36:49,780
And so, it's been going on for nearly 30 years at this point.

1451
01:36:49,780 --> 01:36:52,780
And what have you seen over that time?

1452
01:36:52,780 --> 01:36:56,780
Actually, we've seen the trends are steady.

1453
01:36:56,780 --> 01:36:59,780
They follow what you would expect, you know,

1454
01:36:59,780 --> 01:37:02,780
larger fish by accumulation.

1455
01:37:02,780 --> 01:37:06,780
They tend to have more methyl mercury content.

1456
01:37:06,780 --> 01:37:10,780
Right now, the focus is actually towards PFOS.

1457
01:37:10,780 --> 01:37:13,780
We're trying to detect hot spots.

1458
01:37:13,780 --> 01:37:15,780
And so, with the fish,

1459
01:37:15,780 --> 01:37:19,780
not only are you making a food consumption advisory

1460
01:37:19,780 --> 01:37:23,780
to let people know if the fish are safe to eat within that lake,

1461
01:37:23,780 --> 01:37:28,780
but also we are at the same time looking at the quality of water.

1462
01:37:28,780 --> 01:37:30,780
Because if your water is contaminated,

1463
01:37:30,780 --> 01:37:32,780
your fish will be contaminated as well.

1464
01:37:32,780 --> 01:37:36,780
So, what are the main concerns with methyl mercury?

1465
01:37:36,780 --> 01:37:39,780
Obviously, the consumption is the issue.

1466
01:37:39,780 --> 01:37:45,780
So, your main concerns are it is a neurotoxin.

1467
01:37:45,780 --> 01:37:50,780
So, with methyl mercury, it is...

1468
01:37:50,780 --> 01:37:53,780
So, methyl mercury is a neurotoxin.

1469
01:37:53,780 --> 01:37:57,780
It is very toxic to our special populations

1470
01:37:57,780 --> 01:38:00,780
to women who may become pregnant,

1471
01:38:00,780 --> 01:38:03,780
women who are pregnant, children, infants, newborns,

1472
01:38:03,780 --> 01:38:08,780
anything that has a developing brain

1473
01:38:08,780 --> 01:38:12,780
is highly susceptible to methyl mercury toxicity.

1474
01:38:12,780 --> 01:38:15,780
And are people more aware of these?

1475
01:38:15,780 --> 01:38:17,780
I mean, obviously, we've been doing this study a long time,

1476
01:38:17,780 --> 01:38:20,780
are people becoming more aware that they should take that seriously?

1477
01:38:20,780 --> 01:38:23,780
More aware? We need...

1478
01:38:23,780 --> 01:38:26,780
All right, so, more aware.

1479
01:38:26,780 --> 01:38:30,780
They are aware, but as far as like the intricate details of it,

1480
01:38:30,780 --> 01:38:33,780
I would say, no, we need to do more on that part.

1481
01:38:33,780 --> 01:38:36,780
Like I said earlier, a lot of people believe it's like

1482
01:38:36,780 --> 01:38:38,780
it would metal mercury, but no.

1483
01:38:38,780 --> 01:38:41,780
Here, we're dealing with a organic form of mercury.

1484
01:38:41,780 --> 01:38:45,780
In fact, a lot of metals...

1485
01:38:45,780 --> 01:38:49,780
If a metal is safe, take 10, for example.

1486
01:38:49,780 --> 01:38:52,780
If you stick a methyl group, a couple of methyl groups on 10,

1487
01:38:52,780 --> 01:38:56,780
that metal goes from a safe metal to a white toxic metal.

1488
01:38:56,780 --> 01:39:02,780
So, organic metals are typically something to always be concerned of.

1489
01:39:02,780 --> 01:39:05,780
And mercury is found everywhere, straightening.

1490
01:39:05,780 --> 01:39:10,780
Yeah, mercury is a natural occurring compound.

1491
01:39:10,780 --> 01:39:14,780
When Marcus was speaking on earlier how there is atmospheric deposition of mercury,

1492
01:39:14,780 --> 01:39:19,780
that's just something that happens naturally, from combustion of fossil fuels,

1493
01:39:19,780 --> 01:39:22,780
combustion of anything that's going on in the industry,

1494
01:39:22,780 --> 01:39:25,780
goes up into the air, and then it slowly will particulate out,

1495
01:39:25,780 --> 01:39:27,780
and then there's a...

1496
01:39:27,780 --> 01:39:28,780
They have this model.

1497
01:39:28,780 --> 01:39:31,780
There's people put this down to a math.

1498
01:39:32,780 --> 01:39:35,780
And so, usually where there's a higher concentration of industry,

1499
01:39:35,780 --> 01:39:38,780
you can see more mercury deposition.

1500
01:39:38,780 --> 01:39:44,780
In the past, whenever the United States was in its industrial age,

1501
01:39:44,780 --> 01:39:47,780
like we were making metal manufacturing back here,

1502
01:39:47,780 --> 01:39:50,780
that's when the levels were higher.

1503
01:39:50,780 --> 01:39:54,780
They're looking at what is that they called out of Duluth,

1504
01:39:54,780 --> 01:39:58,780
St. Louis, St. Louis, wherever estuary.

1505
01:39:59,780 --> 01:40:02,780
So, they're monitoring that and keeping track of those levels,

1506
01:40:02,780 --> 01:40:06,780
because that's a lot of industry in that area.

1507
01:40:06,780 --> 01:40:11,780
So, we saw one of the fish where we saw a lot of the other fish popping out of it.

1508
01:40:11,780 --> 01:40:12,780
Right.

1509
01:40:12,780 --> 01:40:13,780
Just talk about that food prep.

1510
01:40:13,780 --> 01:40:15,780
Okay, so the value accumulation?

1511
01:40:15,780 --> 01:40:16,780
Yeah.

1512
01:40:16,780 --> 01:40:19,780
So, once the mercury is deposited into the soil, the water,

1513
01:40:19,780 --> 01:40:24,780
it then becomes part of the natural cycle of things.

1514
01:40:24,780 --> 01:40:27,780
It is taken up, you imagine, like a little bacterium.

1515
01:40:27,780 --> 01:40:32,780
They just suck that mercury up, methylate it, send it out, you know.

1516
01:40:32,780 --> 01:40:35,780
And sometimes it can even become double methylated,

1517
01:40:35,780 --> 01:40:37,780
so you have diomethyl mercury.

1518
01:40:37,780 --> 01:40:45,780
But typically, the equilibrium tends to fall on the methyl mercury side.

1519
01:40:45,780 --> 01:40:50,780
So, once it's deposited, the anaerobic bacteria get a hold of it,

1520
01:40:50,780 --> 01:40:54,780
and the peat, and the marsh, and the bog, and the soil.

1521
01:40:54,780 --> 01:40:59,780
That slowly gets accumulated up through, let's say, the daphnia.

1522
01:40:59,780 --> 01:41:02,780
The little water fleas, little water bugs.

1523
01:41:02,780 --> 01:41:06,780
And then they accumulate it, and then you have the little fish come and feed on those,

1524
01:41:06,780 --> 01:41:10,780
and then the little fish get fed on slowly, but surely, by the larger walleye,

1525
01:41:10,780 --> 01:41:12,780
and then, you know, up the food chain it goes.

1526
01:41:12,780 --> 01:41:17,780
And so, you have a bioaccumulation effect, a magnification of methyl mercury

1527
01:41:17,780 --> 01:41:20,780
in, say, your larger, older fish.

1528
01:41:20,780 --> 01:41:23,780
And that's why there's always the warnings about the size of the fish.

1529
01:41:23,780 --> 01:41:24,780
Right.

1530
01:41:24,780 --> 01:41:25,780
Exactly.

1531
01:41:25,780 --> 01:41:28,780
So, that's where, yes, that's exactly where the warnings come

1532
01:41:28,780 --> 01:41:32,780
about regarding the size of the fish and the age.

1533
01:41:32,780 --> 01:41:37,780
So, you typically want to stay below 20 inches on your fish size for eating.

1534
01:41:37,780 --> 01:41:41,780
The sweet spot, I would say, is around 15 inches to 18 inches.

1535
01:41:41,780 --> 01:41:44,780
That's your sweet spot for eating and safety.

1536
01:41:44,780 --> 01:41:47,780
So, what do we know about pecums?

1537
01:41:47,780 --> 01:41:51,780
It's a developing field at the moment.

1538
01:41:51,780 --> 01:42:00,780
It is, we are learning it is a compound that we are detecting in extremely small quantities.

1539
01:42:00,780 --> 01:42:05,780
That's why we had the foil there to help with any cross-contamination.

1540
01:42:05,780 --> 01:42:10,780
What we know about PFAS is it's another forever chemical, just like PCBs.

1541
01:42:10,780 --> 01:42:14,780
PFAS will be around until we're all dead and gone.

1542
01:42:14,780 --> 01:42:16,780
It'll be around forever.

1543
01:42:16,780 --> 01:42:22,780
And so, we're monitoring, all right, let's start where we know.

1544
01:42:22,780 --> 01:42:32,780
So, PFAS, where we expect to find PFAS are run-off areas around landfills, airports, and firefighter training areas.

1545
01:42:32,780 --> 01:42:34,780
Those are our three main hotspots.

1546
01:42:34,780 --> 01:42:39,780
So, if you live anywhere around there, that...

1547
01:42:39,780 --> 01:42:46,780
Not say, per se, a modern landfill because now they're being designed to control for that, but an old landfill.

1548
01:42:46,780 --> 01:42:48,780
That doesn't have, per se, the liner.

1549
01:42:48,780 --> 01:42:52,780
You would have run-off.

1550
01:42:52,780 --> 01:42:57,780
You see from the leachate off of that landfill, and that leachate would lead into the waterways.

1551
01:42:57,780 --> 01:43:04,780
And then you would see, from the fish, hopefully, first, testing that area increased amounts of, say, PFAS.

1552
01:43:04,780 --> 01:43:11,780
So, PFAS is a catch-all umbrella term for many per-fluoro carbon chains.

1553
01:43:11,780 --> 01:43:20,780
So, the main culprits we're looking at are PFAS, PFAS, PFAS, for right now.

1554
01:43:20,780 --> 01:43:27,780
There are many others, 15,000 or so, to be exact or more.

1555
01:43:28,780 --> 01:43:34,780
So, but do we know if that's equally distributed in every element of the water and the fish?

1556
01:43:34,780 --> 01:43:37,780
Uh, no, it's not equally distributed.

1557
01:43:37,780 --> 01:43:41,780
Like I said, you have your hotspots, right?

1558
01:43:41,780 --> 01:43:48,780
But I guess if there's a run-off area, is all the fish that come through there, or is that what we're still trying to figure out?

1559
01:43:48,780 --> 01:43:50,780
Yeah, whether it's in the fillet or if it's constant.

1560
01:43:50,780 --> 01:43:56,780
Yeah, so, we do have data on that. That comes from Gavin, our PFAS guy. He's in Madison.

1561
01:43:56,780 --> 01:44:01,780
So, he has data that states that the PFAS is concentrated in the head.

1562
01:44:01,780 --> 01:44:06,780
And he thinks it's the walleyt cheeks. I disagree. I think it's stuck in the brain.

1563
01:44:06,780 --> 01:44:10,780
Because it's, you know, it's a fatty molecule, but it's not.

1564
01:44:10,780 --> 01:44:17,780
It's, uh, I believe it, uh, kind of mimics cholesterol.

1565
01:44:17,780 --> 01:44:23,780
And, you know, your brain's hot in cholesterol, or it tries to, it gets incorporated there.

1566
01:44:24,780 --> 01:44:26,780
But that's where the science, we need to know more.

1567
01:44:26,780 --> 01:44:33,780
We need to know more. So, honestly, if I'm, if I want to write a grant, I would write a grant for Marcus to collect brains.

1568
01:44:33,780 --> 01:44:37,780
And we would, uh, sample those brains and see if PFAS is actually concentrated.

1569
01:44:37,780 --> 01:44:42,780
But first, we have to find the hotspot to find where these PFAS concentrated fish are.

1570
01:44:42,780 --> 01:44:45,780
We do have a few lakes that we know that are hits.

1571
01:44:45,780 --> 01:44:52,780
And so, once we have those, we can actually focus on those areas and then focus on the fish in that ecosystem to see how that PFAS.

1572
01:44:52,780 --> 01:44:56,780
Is actually, if it is accumulating, where is it accumulating?

1573
01:44:56,780 --> 01:45:00,780
Is it in tissues, is it in certain organs, that sort of thing?

1574
01:45:00,780 --> 01:45:08,780
So, it's possible that taking a fillet sample to look for PFAS, you may not find, even if it is present in that water body.

1575
01:45:08,780 --> 01:45:14,780
Right? Is it simultaneously testing the water to determine that that's a hotspot?

1576
01:45:14,780 --> 01:45:16,780
Um, because right now you're only testing the water.

1577
01:45:16,780 --> 01:45:20,780
We're only testing the fish. The USGS test the water.

1578
01:45:20,780 --> 01:45:35,780
Uh, other agencies handle water. Um, but we have within our GIS system, we have it mapped out so that our lakes are chosen that are, like, highly suspected to be, you know, contaminated with PFAS.

1579
01:45:35,780 --> 01:45:41,780
Okay. And that's, I mean, is that a bigger threat long term than mercury?

1580
01:45:41,780 --> 01:45:45,780
No. I mean, that's comparing apples and oranges.

1581
01:45:45,780 --> 01:45:53,780
They both pose their own special threats. I mean, you still have PCBs in the background here. That's the OG forever chemical.

1582
01:45:53,780 --> 01:45:56,780
Poly, chlorinated biofuels.

1583
01:45:56,780 --> 01:46:04,780
So, in terms of, like, the work that you guys are doing here, is it always going to be, but what's the new thing to worry about when you do it?

1584
01:46:04,780 --> 01:46:09,780
Uh, yeah. Kinda. If you want to be a little cynical about it.

1585
01:46:09,780 --> 01:46:17,780
Uh, yeah. We got methyl mercury. Now we have PFAS. Soon it'd be microplastics. After that, it'd be six PPD coming out of your tires.

1586
01:46:17,780 --> 01:46:22,780
I mean, we're, I mean, we're, this is a, this is a sense of monitoring.

1587
01:46:22,780 --> 01:46:28,780
So we're not, we're not going to fix what's happening, but we were able to monitoring to monitor what's happening.

1588
01:46:28,780 --> 01:46:34,780
So, say, say, this is Ruth Lake. Ruth Lake right now may be clean, but I come back five years from now.

1589
01:46:34,780 --> 01:46:40,780
My fish are showing numbers that weren't there, that weren't there in the previous years that we sampled.

1590
01:46:40,780 --> 01:46:45,780
So now we know that there's activity going around that lake that is running off into there.

1591
01:46:45,780 --> 01:46:53,780
And we need to alert whoever needs to know so that they can figure out how to control that point source pollution.

1592
01:46:53,780 --> 01:47:00,780
So the, the reason for choosing walleye to do the testing is it just, it's, it's, it's an apex predator.

1593
01:47:00,780 --> 01:47:06,780
It's apex predator. Everyone wants to eat. Everyone wants to eat. It's, it's a, like he said, it's a high commodity.

1594
01:47:06,780 --> 01:47:14,780
It's a fish of the people. Um, I mean, whenever I posted my picture, my selfie picture, like friends from Louisiana,

1595
01:47:14,780 --> 01:47:20,780
they're like, that's a walleye. I was like, yeah, how'd you know? But yeah, they know. Everyone knows this walleye.

1596
01:47:20,780 --> 01:47:25,780
So, I mean, you got musky too. People love musky, but nothing compares to the walleye out here as far as the fish.

1597
01:47:25,780 --> 01:47:28,780
Everyone wants walleye. Yeah, everyone wants it.

1598
01:47:28,780 --> 01:47:31,780
So that, but that's why you would test that, right? Something else.

1599
01:47:31,780 --> 01:47:36,780
I mean, we also test other fish. We test sturgeon. We test murk, uh, musky. We test white fish out of lake superior.

1600
01:47:36,780 --> 01:47:40,780
We test lake trout out of lake superior. Right now we're focused on the inland lakes.

1601
01:47:40,780 --> 01:47:44,780
We do the lake superior in the fall. We work on the inland lakes in the spring.

1602
01:47:44,780 --> 01:47:49,780
So, like, we're in the summer now. So we're wrapping up the project. All these samples are due Friday.

1603
01:47:49,780 --> 01:47:55,780
So, but it's probably hard to imagine that people, whatever, not keep walleye. So you might as well.

1604
01:47:55,780 --> 01:48:01,780
Right. So no one's going to stop. No one's going to stop. So the best thing to do is educate.

1605
01:48:01,780 --> 01:48:05,780
So if I can, if I can convince people to put the big fish up on the wall or leave it in the water.

1606
01:48:05,780 --> 01:48:11,780
So it keeps responding to the lakes and, uh, he's shaking his head.

1607
01:48:11,780 --> 01:48:17,780
Uh, you know, but, I mean, you saw that big one.

1608
01:48:17,780 --> 01:48:21,780
We got 230 grams, nearly half a pound off of one fillet.

1609
01:48:21,780 --> 01:48:22,780
So...

1610
01:48:22,780 --> 01:48:30,780
Yeah, it's not catching release. So the thing is we have to catch an edge cake.

1611
01:48:30,780 --> 01:48:38,780
So catch edge cake. Um, you can eat a contaminated fish, but you're going to want to eat a small piece of that fillet.

1612
01:48:38,780 --> 01:48:44,780
And you're going to want to do a literature search on anything that can attenuate the toxicity of methyl mercury.

1613
01:48:44,780 --> 01:48:48,780
And there are studies out there that have, uh, dated to back that up.

1614
01:48:48,780 --> 01:48:54,780
Um, I believe that the top dog in methyl mercury studies right now is a guy called Michael Ashener.

1615
01:48:54,780 --> 01:49:01,780
Could be even closer retired, but if you go into PubMed, search methyl mercury, his name is almost on every single publication.

1616
01:49:01,780 --> 01:49:02,780
Okay.

1617
01:49:02,780 --> 01:49:03,780
Yeah.

1618
01:49:03,780 --> 01:49:06,780
Alright. Anything else that we should know? What is the next step?

1619
01:49:06,780 --> 01:49:09,780
So you guys are just taking the samples here and then you bring it over to a lab, right?

1620
01:49:09,780 --> 01:49:12,780
Right. So typically the next step, they would go in the freezer,

1621
01:49:12,780 --> 01:49:19,780
but since we're doing a mock trial transport, I have four samples, four lakes that we're going to do like a little mock trial run.

1622
01:49:19,780 --> 01:49:23,780
I'm going to get everything prepped settled. You already got those in the freezer. No, they're right there.

1623
01:49:23,780 --> 01:49:30,780
So we had the PFOS, PFOS ones that you saw were the ones wrapped in foil to help with any kind of cross contamination.

1624
01:49:30,780 --> 01:49:33,780
The mercury ones were the ones that went into the bag without any foil.

1625
01:49:33,780 --> 01:49:39,780
We had the, the odorless for aging. Um, we have two sets. This time you typically, there's only one set.

1626
01:49:39,780 --> 01:49:45,780
Our sister agency, KBSC, they're training one of their own LTEs to how to age the fish.

1627
01:49:45,780 --> 01:49:51,780
So we get the age, we get the weight, we get the length, and we get the tissue weight.

1628
01:49:51,780 --> 01:49:55,780
That's going to be a, I believe that's a wet analysis on that tissue.

1629
01:49:55,780 --> 01:50:02,780
And so all these things factor in together to help us know the proper mercury constant of the tissue as well.

1630
01:50:03,780 --> 01:50:08,780
Um, and so the, the odorless, one set will go here for our aging purposes here.

1631
01:50:08,780 --> 01:50:12,780
And that will go into the database. And then the other set will be going to KBIC.

1632
01:50:12,780 --> 01:50:18,780
And there they're going to be doing a quality assurance or quality assessment.

1633
01:50:18,780 --> 01:50:28,780
So I got this. This is actually a secret. They're going to find out if this airs, but I'm checking their numbers seeing if they're aging right and we're going to compare the ages.

1634
01:50:29,780 --> 01:50:31,780
So it's a, it's a lab lab check.

1635
01:50:31,780 --> 01:50:33,780
What does KBIC stand for?

1636
01:50:33,780 --> 01:50:34,780
I don't know.

1637
01:50:34,780 --> 01:50:36,780
Do you want to be in the end community?

1638
01:50:36,780 --> 01:50:37,780
Yeah.

1639
01:50:37,780 --> 01:50:38,780
Keep an eye on the community.

1640
01:50:38,780 --> 01:50:39,780
Great.

1641
01:50:39,780 --> 01:50:44,780
Um, can you get you to say and spell your name, give your title while we've got your theater?

1642
01:50:44,780 --> 01:50:45,780
Do I do the doctor?

1643
01:50:45,780 --> 01:50:46,780
What's your name?

1644
01:50:46,780 --> 01:50:47,780
What's your title?

1645
01:50:47,780 --> 01:50:54,780
Alright, my name is Dr. or Joshua Sally. Dr. Joshua Sally. Uh, J-O-S-H-U-A-S-A-L-L-E-Y.

1646
01:50:55,780 --> 01:51:03,780
I'm originally from Louisiana. I got a job here at Glyph Week beginning in March after what my second lived, my second midlife crisis.

1647
01:51:05,780 --> 01:51:06,780
And what's your title here?

1648
01:51:06,780 --> 01:51:09,780
My title here is the environmental toxicologist.

1649
01:51:09,780 --> 01:51:10,780
Alright, very cool.

1650
01:51:13,780 --> 01:51:14,780
Alright, are you recording me?

1651
01:51:14,780 --> 01:51:23,780
Alright, so we produce a physical map and on that map we have our, it's like a section around the, say around the band.

1652
01:51:24,780 --> 01:51:25,780
Yeah, it's the lakes.

1653
01:51:25,780 --> 01:51:30,780
Um, so there's a map printed for each of our member tribes.

1654
01:51:30,780 --> 01:51:31,780
Okay.

1655
01:51:31,780 --> 01:51:37,780
And then the lakes that are on their map are the lakes that that tribe declares.

1656
01:51:37,780 --> 01:51:38,780
Right.

1657
01:51:38,780 --> 01:51:44,780
So there's a map with lakes for our member tribes and each look like, alright, let me start.

1658
01:51:44,780 --> 01:51:46,780
No, we got it.

1659
01:51:46,780 --> 01:51:47,780
No, okay.

1660
01:51:47,780 --> 01:51:52,780
So, yeah, and then those lakes on the map, they're color-graded.

1661
01:51:52,780 --> 01:51:54,780
And so I think I gave you some.

1662
01:51:54,780 --> 01:51:55,780
Yeah, yeah.

1663
01:51:55,780 --> 01:52:00,780
So, yeah, red means don't eat, blue means, how about it?

1664
01:52:00,780 --> 01:52:01,780
How do they all?

1665
01:52:01,780 --> 01:52:04,780
So, is there more that you guys need to do in the lab or is there excess mother's locks?

1666
01:52:04,780 --> 01:52:05,780
Oh, wow.

1667
01:52:09,780 --> 01:52:21,780
So, here you see this whole cooler, what's inside here and right here, this is, this is my spring's worth of peepaw samples.

1668
01:52:21,780 --> 01:52:26,780
So, this is, I want to say, 34 lakes worth.

1669
01:52:26,780 --> 01:52:32,780
Um, so since we're about to transport to the LSRL, I'll have, I need to gather up some ice.

1670
01:52:32,780 --> 01:52:33,780
So, I'll read.

1671
01:52:33,780 --> 01:52:34,780
And grab.

1672
01:52:34,780 --> 01:52:36,780
Use these green and white.

1673
01:52:40,780 --> 01:52:41,780
And that should be good.

1674
01:52:41,780 --> 01:52:43,780
And then, uh, yeah.

1675
01:52:43,780 --> 01:52:46,780
I'm going to need that one.

1676
01:52:46,780 --> 01:52:47,780
Sure.

1677
01:52:47,780 --> 01:52:48,780
I'll get it.

1678
01:52:49,780 --> 01:52:50,780
I don't know.

1679
01:52:59,780 --> 01:53:00,780
See you guys.

1680
01:53:01,780 --> 01:53:02,780
There you go.

1681
01:53:18,780 --> 01:53:20,780
Good.