So
How often do you you talk to friends either girlfriends or guy friends and you know they talk about dating and they talk about fish pics
They're like oh my gosh. I'm dating a guy. Yeah, I ever see him. Yeah. How does that come up?
With most my girlfriends that I talked to you know if they see a fish pick on the dating app they're usually they want to go away
But it really depends on the person I think people that are more inclined to be out in nature
And fishing and stuff. Maybe that's not their ideal thing
But if they do see one they're like, okay, like I might check it out really depends on the person also how they're holding the fish
You know the fish picks they make a difference. So yeah, what's the proper way?
This this this is the proper way if you're holding them up like this. I think that's a little it's a little weird
But maybe my personal personal thing. Okay, so you personally do you have a fish pick? Oh, I have some fish picks like this
The right way the right way. Yep. We got some good ones. I mean I can show them to you later
So what is the the fear I guess of a guy with a fish pick of?
There's a lot of women I've known just like oh absolutely not because they're afraid that I mean
Okay, I mean my boyfriend. He's a really big fisherman. He has a lot of fish picks
But I knew him before I really knew that he was in to that and so
When I saw that I was like, oh my god, like usually I think
You know like very like redneck hick type of thing
But it really just depends on the person
But that is the vibe that you kind of get off of the fish
But I mean they're they're pretty good fish though. I mean is that another fact. I mean, well, yeah
That's true. I mean if they're holding up a blue girl, that's you know, if it's like a seven pound blue girl
That's okay. That's cool
But you know like if you got a huge musky, that's great
But if you got like a little small one, yeah, um, but I think it depends on the fish
Yeah, I don't know but there's I've seen memes or things out there to talk about like, you know
The only time their guy smiles is when he's going to use the fish
I would have to probably agree. I think my boyfriend's biggest smiles are probably when he's holding a fish
but
You know, it depends on the guy. Um, but yeah, I'd say guys are pretty much their happiest when they're out alone fishing on a
on a pond or so
Should that be a red flag or would you advise women to give them more of a shot?
I think give him more of a shot, you know, like maybe his real joy in life is really only fishing
He sure he probably loves you probably but
Fish is great. The fish don't talk back the fish. They don't ask you to get him dinner. The fish are just there
So, you know, I don't know and for you and your experiences
Do you think that you came as a separate like extra bonus because you I would hope so?
Yeah, yeah, you know, we met before I was really into fishing and then I got right back into it and
You know, we tend not to fish together because it causes some uprising
But you know, we're working on it
So he takes it a lot more seriously than I do is that a rivalry in the book that a little bit. Yeah
So what are the most common?
Frictions that exist in a relationship in one person is very serious about fishing. Yeah
I think the way that we go about fishing like the lures that we use live versus artificial bait
Especially being on the scientific side of things
He tends to really just, you know, want the fish that he wants and I'm like, okay
But I want to look at all the tiny ones and like the bigger ones and I want to look at the whole ecosystem
So I'm more of kind of like la de da da da and you know, he's kind of on his his own mission
So that kind of causes some
Some ruckus there, but yeah
For this story, we have seen
Couples that fish together. Yeah, do you think that they naturally go together or is it more?
I mean, like because they fly to an interest or like you said, there's a lot of this is solo or peace and
It is. Yeah, I think a lot of the time. It's very much like a solo adventure
You know props to the people who can do it together
I think it really just takes to people who really really understand what each other want to go out there and
To get to that point you have to spend a lot of time with that person fishing
Otherwise like the patience it just takes patience, especially if someone doesn't really know how to fish it takes a lot of patience
So I think yeah, I could probably do a little bit better
Of learning some of that stuff because I'm not I wouldn't call myself a real angler
I'm more of all the scientific side things, but yeah, so when you I think there's a stereotype when people see a woman fishing with a man
Yeah, she just wants to be with them. She doesn't do it. I mean, but there's probably a lot of cases where oh, yeah
There's plenty of people that are much better than men that fishing
Yeah, you know, I haven't met a whole lot of them
I think if you go out west there's a whole lot more of fly fish and all that
But you know, it's
I'm hoping it's an up-and-coming thing that more women take on to it. It might make those fish pictures more like nice
They're like, you know, like people want it more
But yeah, I don't know. It's you don't see a whole lot of women fishing out there anymore
I guess it's never really been that way, but hopefully soon. I don't know. Yeah
Thank you so much. Thank you to just so I have it correct for this section say and spell your name
Yeah, yeah, Kelsey Turin KEL SCY THU RIM and what would your title be?
an LTE limited term employee, okay, and you are currently a grad student or you
Yeah, current grad student. Oh, yeah, UW Green Bay. Okay. Yeah, cool. Sweet. All right. Yeah, I survived
All right, so give me your perspective on fish picks dating fishing and relationships
What's the advice you give? What other questions you get? Right? Yeah, so
Fish picks are like big thing in our demographic for sure. Um, I feel like
Sorry
Camera is crazy for me. All right, let me let me think about that
So yeah, let's start one more time mid 20s
Approximately, yeah, I just graduated. Okay, so you've been through the dating cycle. Mm-hmm. So you've probably seen, you know
online dating sites and so
How how often are most of the pictures of people out there holding? Mm-hmm. Yeah, great question
So I feel like you see it a lot, especially in the north woods because it's kind of like what a lot of guys do up here
And so I went to school in Ashland, right? So it's right on Lake Superior. It's all about fishing
Is it you talk about being the north woods is it so I guess for people out there
Do they have to be open to that or is it you know, they're from maybe Madison or farther south?
Whereas they are women up here a little more open to that. Like that's just what you're gonna get
I feel like yeah, it's definitely like what people do up here. Jeez man. I am so bad at this
So I guess for you, do you have a fish pick? Oh, yeah for sure. I love fishing and so it's like
What kind of questions do you get from some of your friends?
What are the things they ask you like if they oh?
Shoot, okay. Here's my thing. I feel like
I'm pro fish pick, you know, like so I'm not the like stereotype. Maybe you're looking for no, we're looking for everything. Yeah, okay
No, wait. Yeah, you have a certain background. Yeah, you see it's gonna make you predisposed to one thought for sure, but that's yours
Yeah, right. So I'm all about the fish pick kind of what can I reference her? Yeah, yeah
Sort of like what Kelsey was saying. Yeah, it's all about how they're holding the fish
Yeah, it shows a lot how like natural you are with it and if it's like forced or what's going on it
and
Are you one where like that's the most natural smile you're gonna see? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just like
Fish are so cool. Right like they swim like underwater. They're breathing. They're so old, you know, it's like
They're so cool. Like so should women worry about like will he love me as much as the fish?
Hmm
It depends on what you're looking for in a relationship, right?
I like look for passion. So, you know, if someone's passionate about fishing
And that's like the person for me, right?
It's all like
Perspective in that sense, you know, I want someone who's gonna go out
And you know, even if it's raining, they still want to fish like that's cool. Oh, shoot
But I guess
All the women that aren't internet, that's just their loss, right? Yeah, totally. It's their loss, you know, like
But it's good for me
Can I get you to say and spell your name? Just so I have a question? Yeah, yeah, it's a coco
COCO, Eberhard, E-B-E-R-H-A-R-D. And what is your title here?
Fisheries technician. Perfect. Thank you
Like there'd be times I'd be out working and there's no people within 20 miles of you
And you're just like in the middle of nowhere
Like you can't even find something like that here where you're that remote
Yeah, not by that much. You're good. Yep. All right, so
What's your what's your thought on the fish pick because I'm sure, you know, as a guy
You probably have a lot of guy friends. Do they ever ask you's like, hey, does this look like a good picture?
What should I put on my dating profile?
I'm for it. I don't know. I have a lot of fish pictures. That's like most of my camera roll
As I love to fish. I work with fish. I take a lot of them
So I'm for it. So I know some people aren't like a lot of women or maybe they don't want to see that
For me
Like I would love to see like pictures of women with fish
Like I want to be dating somebody marrying somebody who loves to do the things that I care about too
So I'm all for it
if there's a woman who
We purposely won't swipe the correct way on a guy with the fish pick is that
Is that kind of clearing the field making it easier because if she's that opposed to it or should they be more open?
I think that it's important that people are true to who they
Kind of are the things that they care about like for me if that's something that they're
You know not for it might not be the right fit for myself personally
But that doesn't mean it's inherently a bad thing because everyone has different preferences and not everyone
You know cares about the same things that I do and like in an area like this you might not see that as frequently because
Everybody up here loves to fish and that's part of why you live up somewhere like somewhere
I can go to Wisconsin, but
All the places in the world people care about different things and have different passions and hobbies
So I think it kind of just depends on the person
What is the advice you would give people who are entering into a relationship with someone who loves to fish
And if they're not as much of a fisher person and not as much of an angler
Because you know there's that whole thing of like well, where will their first love be?
Yeah, I think I think there's a balance for sure
Like you can have a hobby that you care about very much and do it frequently
And still make time for the other person that's in your life
And you can find a way to balance that like they might like not like fishing like my mom for example
My mom does not fish and my dad does
But whenever my dad goes out, my mom loves to come out just to be on the boat
And so there's a ways to balance that sometimes
That might mean that you're picking maybe her hobby over yours
Right and balancing it that way or all right
I'm not going to go fishing today because we're going to do the thing that you like to do
And I think if you have that balance and you have that honest communication where you're
able to be
Doing the things that both people like to do. I think it can work just fine
But how does fishing work as a as a couples thing?
Like is it possible if like someone's really focused on fishing and then they bring a partner along that
Like if they don't match the energy, I mean, can can that work?
I think so
I think so I think you can still like I've been in relationships where I still fish a lot and they maybe haven't
And it can still work just fine. Like
It might not mean that you're doing it as much as you did before
But if you truly care about them that much like you can still work through that
I think and sometimes maybe they
Just haven't gotten the opportunity to fish yet and you bring them along and maybe they actually like it that can happen too
So it's spreading the gospel officially for sure for sure
So a question for you. Do you have
pictures of yourself where you're not holding a fish and you're smiling
A few a few some of those I might be might or might not be sitting behind a deer
Which whether that's the same thing or not
Up to the first I do have some but not a tug
I would say like 90% of the pictures of myself are either with an animal or a fish
And that's where your biggest smiles are gonna cover
Oh 100% 100% I would say the ones that don't are like me with family or me with significant other
And it's just us as people but like just myself. I don't have a ton of pictures of just me
All right, so if you're with a picture of your girlfriend, are you smiling? Yeah
As big as when you're holding a big fish. Absolutely
Absolutely
I could yeah, I could
All right, um
In terms of like the the broader community
Do you do guys ever girls or ever come up to you and ask like why do guys put so many fish picks on there?
What what should I worry about if I see all these? I've never had anyone ask me that I think
I don't know it might just be a difference in like guys for girls like
I think girls maybe are more open the or more wanting to take pictures of just themselves doing other things
At least for me like that's not a huge I'm not a huge picture
First none like other things like that are not a oh I caught it. This awesome fish or I got this awesome deer or whatever
But it's not something I've ever been asked about
So I don't know for sure and that I guess that is probably the truth about a lot of guys
That's what they're taking pictures of then that's going to make up the most of the pictures
They have if they could say this is who I am. Yeah, yeah
I would say so for sure and those are the two of the things that I'm most passionate about
So just naturally that's what a lot of the pictures are going to entail of
All right, can I get you to say and spell your name so I have it correct?
Yep
T-Y-L-E-R Tyler and then H-O-F-F M-A-N Hoffman. All right, and what is your title here?
I'm a fisheries technician fisheries technician. So indeed you want to show us
Here we go. All right, we show the camera back up a little bit for me
And see when's that from last fall just hold it there
So there it's going to be awkward but we're just going to count to like 10 more seconds then we got a good shot of it
Okay, cool. You can bring your phone down. Perfect. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Of course we have them like