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How often do you you talk to friends either girlfriends or guy friends and you know they talk about dating and they talk about fish pics

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They're like oh my gosh. I'm dating a guy. Yeah, I ever see him. Yeah. How does that come up?

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With most my girlfriends that I talked to you know if they see a fish pick on the dating app they're usually they want to go away

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But it really depends on the person I think people that are more inclined to be out in nature

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And fishing and stuff. Maybe that's not their ideal thing

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But if they do see one they're like, okay, like I might check it out really depends on the person also how they're holding the fish

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You know the fish picks they make a difference. So yeah, what's the proper way?

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This this this is the proper way if you're holding them up like this. I think that's a little it's a little weird

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But maybe my personal personal thing. Okay, so you personally do you have a fish pick? Oh, I have some fish picks like this

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The right way the right way. Yep. We got some good ones. I mean I can show them to you later

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So what is the the fear I guess of a guy with a fish pick of?

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There's a lot of women I've known just like oh absolutely not because they're afraid that I mean

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Okay, I mean my boyfriend. He's a really big fisherman. He has a lot of fish picks

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But I knew him before I really knew that he was in to that and so

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When I saw that I was like, oh my god, like usually I think

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You know like very like redneck hick type of thing

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But it really just depends on the person

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But that is the vibe that you kind of get off of the fish

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But I mean they're they're pretty good fish though. I mean is that another fact. I mean, well, yeah

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That's true. I mean if they're holding up a blue girl, that's you know, if it's like a seven pound blue girl

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That's okay. That's cool

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But you know like if you got a huge musky, that's great

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But if you got like a little small one, yeah, um, but I think it depends on the fish

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Yeah, I don't know but there's I've seen memes or things out there to talk about like, you know

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The only time their guy smiles is when he's going to use the fish

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I would have to probably agree. I think my boyfriend's biggest smiles are probably when he's holding a fish

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You know, it depends on the guy. Um, but yeah, I'd say guys are pretty much their happiest when they're out alone fishing on a

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Should that be a red flag or would you advise women to give them more of a shot?

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I think give him more of a shot, you know, like maybe his real joy in life is really only fishing

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He sure he probably loves you probably but

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Fish is great. The fish don't talk back the fish. They don't ask you to get him dinner. The fish are just there

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So, you know, I don't know and for you and your experiences

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Do you think that you came as a separate like extra bonus because you I would hope so?

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Yeah, yeah, you know, we met before I was really into fishing and then I got right back into it and

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You know, we tend not to fish together because it causes some uprising

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But you know, we're working on it

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So he takes it a lot more seriously than I do is that a rivalry in the book that a little bit. Yeah

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So what are the most common?

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Frictions that exist in a relationship in one person is very serious about fishing. Yeah

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I think the way that we go about fishing like the lures that we use live versus artificial bait

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Especially being on the scientific side of things

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He tends to really just, you know, want the fish that he wants and I'm like, okay

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But I want to look at all the tiny ones and like the bigger ones and I want to look at the whole ecosystem

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So I'm more of kind of like la de da da da and you know, he's kind of on his his own mission

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So that kind of causes some

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Some ruckus there, but yeah

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For this story, we have seen

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Couples that fish together. Yeah, do you think that they naturally go together or is it more?

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I mean, like because they fly to an interest or like you said, there's a lot of this is solo or peace and

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It is. Yeah, I think a lot of the time. It's very much like a solo adventure

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You know props to the people who can do it together

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I think it really just takes to people who really really understand what each other want to go out there and

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To get to that point you have to spend a lot of time with that person fishing

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Otherwise like the patience it just takes patience, especially if someone doesn't really know how to fish it takes a lot of patience

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So I think yeah, I could probably do a little bit better

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Of learning some of that stuff because I'm not I wouldn't call myself a real angler

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I'm more of all the scientific side things, but yeah, so when you I think there's a stereotype when people see a woman fishing with a man

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Yeah, she just wants to be with them. She doesn't do it. I mean, but there's probably a lot of cases where oh, yeah

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There's plenty of people that are much better than men that fishing

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I think if you go out west there's a whole lot more of fly fish and all that

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I'm hoping it's an up-and-coming thing that more women take on to it. It might make those fish pictures more like nice

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They're like, you know, like people want it more

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But yeah, I don't know. It's you don't see a whole lot of women fishing out there anymore

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I guess it's never really been that way, but hopefully soon. I don't know. Yeah

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Thank you so much. Thank you to just so I have it correct for this section say and spell your name

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Yeah, yeah, Kelsey Turin KEL SCY THU RIM and what would your title be?

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an LTE limited term employee, okay, and you are currently a grad student or you

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Yeah, current grad student. Oh, yeah, UW Green Bay. Okay. Yeah, cool. Sweet. All right. Yeah, I survived

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All right, so give me your perspective on fish picks dating fishing and relationships

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What's the advice you give? What other questions you get? Right? Yeah, so

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Fish picks are like big thing in our demographic for sure. Um, I feel like

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Camera is crazy for me. All right, let me let me think about that

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So yeah, let's start one more time mid 20s

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Approximately, yeah, I just graduated. Okay, so you've been through the dating cycle. Mm-hmm. So you've probably seen, you know

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How how often are most of the pictures of people out there holding? Mm-hmm. Yeah, great question

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So I feel like you see it a lot, especially in the north woods because it's kind of like what a lot of guys do up here

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And so I went to school in Ashland, right? So it's right on Lake Superior. It's all about fishing

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Is it you talk about being the north woods is it so I guess for people out there

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Do they have to be open to that or is it you know, they're from maybe Madison or farther south?

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Whereas they are women up here a little more open to that. Like that's just what you're gonna get

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I feel like yeah, it's definitely like what people do up here. Jeez man. I am so bad at this

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So I guess for you, do you have a fish pick? Oh, yeah for sure. I love fishing and so it's like

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What kind of questions do you get from some of your friends?

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What are the things they ask you like if they oh?

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Shoot, okay. Here's my thing. I feel like

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I'm pro fish pick, you know, like so I'm not the like stereotype. Maybe you're looking for no, we're looking for everything. Yeah, okay

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No, wait. Yeah, you have a certain background. Yeah, you see it's gonna make you predisposed to one thought for sure, but that's yours

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Yeah, right. So I'm all about the fish pick kind of what can I reference her? Yeah, yeah

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Sort of like what Kelsey was saying. Yeah, it's all about how they're holding the fish

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Yeah, it shows a lot how like natural you are with it and if it's like forced or what's going on it

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Are you one where like that's the most natural smile you're gonna see? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just like

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Fish are so cool. Right like they swim like underwater. They're breathing. They're so old, you know, it's like

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They're so cool. Like so should women worry about like will he love me as much as the fish?

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It depends on what you're looking for in a relationship, right?

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I like look for passion. So, you know, if someone's passionate about fishing

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And that's like the person for me, right?

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Perspective in that sense, you know, I want someone who's gonna go out

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And you know, even if it's raining, they still want to fish like that's cool. Oh, shoot

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All the women that aren't internet, that's just their loss, right? Yeah, totally. It's their loss, you know, like

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But it's good for me

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Can I get you to say and spell your name? Just so I have a question? Yeah, yeah, it's a coco

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COCO, Eberhard, E-B-E-R-H-A-R-D. And what is your title here?

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Fisheries technician. Perfect. Thank you

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Like there'd be times I'd be out working and there's no people within 20 miles of you

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And you're just like in the middle of nowhere

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Like you can't even find something like that here where you're that remote

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Yeah, not by that much. You're good. Yep. All right, so

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What's your what's your thought on the fish pick because I'm sure, you know, as a guy

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You probably have a lot of guy friends. Do they ever ask you's like, hey, does this look like a good picture?

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What should I put on my dating profile?

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I'm for it. I don't know. I have a lot of fish pictures. That's like most of my camera roll

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As I love to fish. I work with fish. I take a lot of them

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So I'm for it. So I know some people aren't like a lot of women or maybe they don't want to see that

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Like I would love to see like pictures of women with fish

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Like I want to be dating somebody marrying somebody who loves to do the things that I care about too

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So I'm all for it

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if there's a woman who

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We purposely won't swipe the correct way on a guy with the fish pick is that

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Is that kind of clearing the field making it easier because if she's that opposed to it or should they be more open?

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I think that it's important that people are true to who they

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Kind of are the things that they care about like for me if that's something that they're

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You know not for it might not be the right fit for myself personally

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But that doesn't mean it's inherently a bad thing because everyone has different preferences and not everyone

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You know cares about the same things that I do and like in an area like this you might not see that as frequently because

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Everybody up here loves to fish and that's part of why you live up somewhere like somewhere

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I can go to Wisconsin, but

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All the places in the world people care about different things and have different passions and hobbies

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So I think it kind of just depends on the person

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What is the advice you would give people who are entering into a relationship with someone who loves to fish

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And if they're not as much of a fisher person and not as much of an angler

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Because you know there's that whole thing of like well, where will their first love be?

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Yeah, I think I think there's a balance for sure

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Like you can have a hobby that you care about very much and do it frequently

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And still make time for the other person that's in your life

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And you can find a way to balance that like they might like not like fishing like my mom for example

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My mom does not fish and my dad does

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And so there's a ways to balance that sometimes

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That might mean that you're picking maybe her hobby over yours

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Right and balancing it that way or all right

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I'm not going to go fishing today because we're going to do the thing that you like to do

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And I think if you have that balance and you have that honest communication where you're

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Doing the things that both people like to do. I think it can work just fine

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But how does fishing work as a as a couples thing?

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Like is it possible if like someone's really focused on fishing and then they bring a partner along that

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Like if they don't match the energy, I mean, can can that work?

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I think so I think you can still like I've been in relationships where I still fish a lot and they maybe haven't

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And it can still work just fine. Like

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It might not mean that you're doing it as much as you did before

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But if you truly care about them that much like you can still work through that

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I think and sometimes maybe they

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Just haven't gotten the opportunity to fish yet and you bring them along and maybe they actually like it that can happen too

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So it's spreading the gospel officially for sure for sure

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So a question for you. Do you have

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pictures of yourself where you're not holding a fish and you're smiling

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A few a few some of those I might be might or might not be sitting behind a deer

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Which whether that's the same thing or not

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Up to the first I do have some but not a tug

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I would say like 90% of the pictures of myself are either with an animal or a fish

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And that's where your biggest smiles are gonna cover

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Oh 100% 100% I would say the ones that don't are like me with family or me with significant other

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And it's just us as people but like just myself. I don't have a ton of pictures of just me

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All right, so if you're with a picture of your girlfriend, are you smiling? Yeah

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As big as when you're holding a big fish. Absolutely

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I could yeah, I could

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In terms of like the the broader community

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Do you do guys ever girls or ever come up to you and ask like why do guys put so many fish picks on there?

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What what should I worry about if I see all these? I've never had anyone ask me that I think

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I don't know it might just be a difference in like guys for girls like

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I think girls maybe are more open the or more wanting to take pictures of just themselves doing other things

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At least for me like that's not a huge I'm not a huge picture

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First none like other things like that are not a oh I caught it. This awesome fish or I got this awesome deer or whatever

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But it's not something I've ever been asked about

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So I don't know for sure and that I guess that is probably the truth about a lot of guys

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That's what they're taking pictures of then that's going to make up the most of the pictures

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They have if they could say this is who I am. Yeah, yeah

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I would say so for sure and those are the two of the things that I'm most passionate about

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So just naturally that's what a lot of the pictures are going to entail of

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All right, can I get you to say and spell your name so I have it correct?

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Yep

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T-Y-L-E-R Tyler and then H-O-F-F M-A-N Hoffman. All right, and what is your title here?

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I'm a fisheries technician fisheries technician. So indeed you want to show us

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Here we go. All right, we show the camera back up a little bit for me

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And see when's that from last fall just hold it there

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So there it's going to be awkward but we're just going to count to like 10 more seconds then we got a good shot of it

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Okay, cool. You can bring your phone down. Perfect. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Of course we have them like