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Joe, you like, I guess I don't know if you want me to like tell you in advance what I'm going to do or

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and then take a picture.

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So I'll just kind of follow me back on that and then I might just have you, when we get the phone up to the

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lines, I might just try and then frame the get a shot up through that your phone.

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Okay, thank you, thank you so much for being here in this building, I'm so glad to see you.

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Um, cool, so like, well, do you want me to like talk while I'm doing it?

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You know, narrate what you're doing as you're doing it and what you're looking for if you can.

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Okay, um, yeah, so these are walleye eggs we collected this morning when we were fight netting.

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Um, and I'm just taking them out of the vial and putting them on the scope so that I can photograph them.

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And you're too small, so like, I'm just throwing them out a little bit.

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And I, I can like make this process shorter.

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Normally it takes like each sample takes a little bit to like sprout them out good.

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So I can just take a picture if that's easier.

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No, whatever you, whatever you usually do, that's, that's fine with me.

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I got nothing but time.

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Okay.

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Um.

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So what's the process for someone to go for it?

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Super simple.

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So basically like anybody that would like to fish here, you know, they have to pop into the station here.

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I think it's literally just this right here.

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And so we just do them a little pencil.

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Uh, we did, you know, their address and a couple of things.

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A little bit of demographic data.

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And then that's really it.

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At that point.

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And then you can just line it up through the scope.

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I'm actually going to get found on a fine plate.

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Like, don't report out when they get done.

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You know, we've got a letter.

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We try to call them, send them that stuff.

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Um, so then after they go out fishing, um, we would mark down, you know, the date and stuff like that.

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What time they started fishing.

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Um, they didn't have the analogy here.

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And then later I just put these photos into image processing software.

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And what we're doing is looking at the diameter of the eggs and the yolk basically to look at how walleye eggs.

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You know, how like different, let me think of the right thing to say.

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Basically like, how do walleye eggs influence recruitment?

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How are walleye eggs part of the, how does that like set up?

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I mean, I'm sorry.

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I'm thinking basically like while I recruitment is declining.

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And one of the things that kind of came out was maybe that that maternal effects could be important.

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So well, how, how might the female walleye influence recruitment?

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Well, maybe it's something to do with the eggs.

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So, and there's studies that have shown that if eggs are bigger, that the larvae will be bigger.

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So maybe they'll have some sort of advantage.

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And then how, you know, that yolk and that nutritional investment in the egg could influence that as well.

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So like, and we looked at all these different.

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So we did a study recently that was published and we looked at female size, female age.

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We looked at environmental factors, like variability, looked at like different kind of population level factors,

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like yellow perch and just looked at, you know, how was egg size being influenced by all these things.

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And it did seem like the main focus seemed to be that environmental variability can influence eggs.

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So if in years where forage isn't as abundant, it seems like maybe the eggs are less provisioned.

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They're not as nutritionally dense.

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And it seemed like some of these factors, the most important factor ultimately seemed to be like maybe a genetic factor.

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So maybe some walleye are just generally better at producing eggs and have generally better,

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and which might influence their recruitment.

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Yeah, so that's why we're keeping the study going, even though we already published on it,

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because we're trying to build up that long-term data set.

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So in that paper, because all of our female walleye are tagged in the spring,

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and so we catch the same fish year after year after year.

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So every, in multiple years, you could get egg samples from the same fish,

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so you can look at how different factors have influenced those eggs,

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and then we can look at recruitment later.

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So we're kind of looking at that long-term kind of egg quality and maybe recruitment potential.

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How's the egg quality looking so far?

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Well, I haven't measured them yet, so I have to like take the photo and put it into the software,

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and then I do little measurements on 10 of the eggs,

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and then we can kind of look and see if per female, okay, how big were her eggs on average,

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how big were the yolks on average, how variable were they,

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and then we can kind of like, we can relate those back to, well, this year,

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what was the ice like this year, what was the ice like last year, what was the perch like last year,

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how are these things influencing eggs and potentially recruitment?

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Potentially.

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Yeah, so that's what I'm doing.

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All right.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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For about two years, you know, there are a few people in there that have seen 120 perch,

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you know, in and outing.

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There's still people, see them up.

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I actually haven't demonstrated to probably pick all the snacks,

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and then I'll be there after, and so,

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I'm going to move up to Samford.

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Yep.

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And like I said, everything should be there, both should be ready to go and guess stuff,

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and the hooks, you know, to tie off the boat is in the deep seat of the truck there.

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Okay.

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So, should we all have been going to go home for you in that quarter?

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Sounds good.

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Yeah, so I'm not going to get your leg.

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It doesn't take long.

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It's when something like that happens, and people are harvesting at that level.

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But it's going to be even...

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Well, the first thing I need this, you know, I've gone for a while.

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But it's one of the purposes of why I originally regulations were set up,

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so when I did open up the fishing, I think, you know, the natural mindset would be like,

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one, they're going to be absolutely loaded with fishing,

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and they're all going to be huge.

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It works the opposite way with fish.

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And so you have too many miles to feed, and so they were all almost done.

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Small with something.

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And so the no-close season, no bag of them, no size of them was originally put on

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to basically how much harvest does it take to kind of put that reflection on balance.

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Like Mack was talking about, he loves the fish some mama on that mallet.

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And his little dog, his little white dog, is dyed now, and he had those hard issues.

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But he'd be in here every two days, you know, older gentlemen dragging his canoeing in there

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and all his glory was a little dog.

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So you get a lot of that stuff, which is kind of cool.

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Yeah.

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You get to know people.

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Wernher.

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Wernher.

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Yeah, we get dirty old men in here.

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Big gals and stuff.

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You can imagine.

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Wernher.

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Here's another one he and his brother's brother's passing them up to,

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but they need to exclusively push it out.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, this is the main building that was remodeled in 2008.

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It's all solar and generator-owned.

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We're completely not figuring it out.

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So, the big muskies, I guess.

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You know, all kinds of different species of animal work.

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Yeah.

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So, five history.

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Definitely.

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Yeah, most pretty much it.

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No, I guess.

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Oh, I have a section on YouTube.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

