You Looking ahead to the 2026 midterm elections Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Call announced this week He's running for re-election to that office not for governor Where does this put the crowded race on the Democrat side and the not-so-crowded field of Republican candidates? We check in with our political analysts Republican Bill McCation and Democrat Scott Ross and thanks for being here Thanks for having us So Scott first to you, would it be fair to say that Josh Call would have been considered the front-runner? Oh, absolutely. He's a statewide elected, you know statewide elected official who's who's won twice in tough environments So yeah, he would have been a he would have been a great candidate He'll be a great attorney general candidate again And I believe that if some changes are made in terms of the environment that he'll win again But you know Democrats have an embarrassment of riches. They have some really really good candidates They have some candidates who are still talking and thinking about it But the you know to run against, you know, what I would argue is the front-runner in Tom Tiffany who is you know Basically an extension of Donald Trump and everything that you dislike and fear about Donald Trump is embodying Tom Tiffany So but again, it's about the it's about the environment And I think Democrats have to do some things to change that environment Well, what is the reaction on the Republicans part to Josh Call not running? I agree with Scott I think he would have been the front-runner the day he got in. He's running one statewide twice before He's got a record. He's got a base a statewide base So it's big news for us that one of the top-tier candidates got out of the way So that leaves Democrats I think their bench is a little bit short right now the top tiers David Crowley, Milwaukee County executives Sarah Rodriguez Lieutenant Governor And they're waiting to see whether or not formerly lieutenant governor Mandela Barnes gets in that would be their top tier And I feel pretty good about our chances against that So This leaves Tom Tiffany. You think who has announced his run in in good shape? Yeah, there's no question Tom Tiffany is the front-runner I mean, he's a sitting congressman congressmen all have districts with 760,000 people he's got a base and it's a very red base Where he's less known is southeastern, Wisconsin And as I pointed out the last time just got Iraners show the deficit for Tom has always been fundraising He wasn't very good at he's already raised more than a million dollars in the first two weeks in the race including 250,000 at a single event last week, so He's gonna be our front-runner, but I think Josh Omen's gonna stay in the race Josh is a you know, he's got a couple advantages. Josh is a younger man He's 24 years younger than Tiffany and he's got geography on his side All of the votes in a GOP primary come within a hundred miles of where Josh lives I just want to stay with you a minute bill and ask you your reaction to your former boss governor Tommy Thompson once again saying he's seriously considering a run I think he's misunderstood on that. I love Tommy Thompson. I wouldn't be where I am without him I think what he really was saying was if these guys don't get out of the blocks I'll be available. I'll be in the bullpen warming up and that would be next spring I don't expect that to happen But I love I hope I have half the energy he has when I get to be 83 years old and I don't expect him to be a candidate He'll be ready there to wish youngster Joe Biden a happy birthday, right? I think they know that they're born on this basically on the same day right? Yeah, but the former governor is a year older I mean I think the great news about Tom Tiffany being the front runner and he is the front runner and I expect that he will be there Nominee is that that nationalizes this race because he is so tied to Trump and you know the the definition of fascism is an authoritarian political ideology defined by a Dictatorial leader centralized governor and suppression of opposition that is part and parcel of everything that has happened in these You know what seems like 10 years, but is really nine months of Trump being in office They have control of everything they've controlled the Supreme Court. They've control of Congress They have controlled the executive and they are running the fascist playbook up into and including I watched something on Friday Where they were they were calling the March planned for October 18th a peaceful March saying no Kings as a terrorist Outfit this is this is not what America's about and I would say to my democratic friends If you don't start treating fascism like fascism and calling it out You can't expect people to see that America is in crisis and that we need to step up and and do something about this So that we can stop it restore the Constitution restore civil liberties and stop things like maranning ice Gestapo Disappearing kids in the middle of the night. Nobody on the dem side has Tiffany's record He was elected to local office to state office state assembly and state Senate and now Congress So he's eminently qualified. He is a strong consistent conservative. So is josh showman I think we have an embarrassment of riches on our side and it's gonna play out pretty well Scott the one candidate that we've mentioned that has not yet entered the race on the democratic side is Former lieutenant governor Mandela Barnes. What's your take on his entry into the race? Well, his supporters tell me that he would be the most experienced best campaigner to get in the race if he got in the race And that he spent since he left office working to restore democracy protect democracy and lift the lives of others, you know And I think that you know all of the candidates in this race have some claim to that whether it's David Crowley or Sarah Rodriguez or Kelda Royce You know they all have that claim that they have stood up for democratic values again The question for me is who is going to tell it like it is and step up to this threat that America faces because I don't think We can win the race if we're defined by the feckless politics of Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries You know what is going on is it's unprecedented in American history And we have to look at it that way and we have to treat it that way because the people want nothing less than to Then to make sure that they're up the Constitution's being upheld Swinging swinging back to the race. Well, what do you think about how formidable Barnes might be? You got to remember 2022 is one of the best midterms for Democrats since Bill Clinton was in the White House in 1998 and Mandela Barnes lost This was the first election statewide election post Dobbs. He's one of the few statewide Democrats to lose that night So we're not afraid of Mandela Barnes being their candidate and to you if you think Tom Tiffany's too conservative Is he more conservative than Ron Johnson who beat Mandela Barnes? I don't think so I mean the thing is is that Schumer left Mandela Barnes high and dry for three and a half weeks after the primary where there were no TV ads From DC coming for Barnes, you know, you know I don't want to relitigate that campaign But if you if you allow your opponent to if you allow your opponent to define you you're in a lot of trouble No, that's what happened in that race I think it was you know again It was a it was a tough loss for sure But it was one that's explainable beyond Mandela's last statewide candidate in Wisconsin that came back from a statewide loss And one statewide is Bob Caston in 1980. It's been a long long time. Indeed. That's a deep cut nice I want I wanted to ask you both about the government shutdown and which party you think goes down is being blamed for it And whether or not that has any kind of political legs It will I mean next week is payday for a lot of federal employees and it needs to get solved If Republicans think they're not gonna get blamed for this ultimately they're in charge and I understand the filibuster rule frankly I would do away with the filibuster if I were John Thune and I would pass the CR today I think that's their best move and I would be ready with a health care reform bill in the next two weeks I mean, yeah, yeah, I think I bills right, you know the Republicans are in charge of things and the Republicans own this But again, let's see what's you know again back to my point two Centralization of government on Friday We started to see illegal firings of union and non-union employees in federal government Those employees will be replaced by Trump partisans again Remember all this a part of this is about it's taken the it's taken the Ability of the house to vote to release the Epstein files. They're one vote short You know Johnson won't appoint You know won't sit a congressperson who won a special election so that that deciding vote will make this happen So again, it's all about this is about protecting dear leader and it's about consolidating power We need to leave it there Scott Ross bill my caution. Thank you very much You Know I know I know I was I know I was work But but dear Bill you you do that and then Bill says well, I think town Tiffany I know I know I know I'm glad we didn't have to trash the poll because I had to say I was ready. I was ready to say I mean, you know, I didn't reference it. I don't like so my my thing was just gonna be kissing You know, I don't want to Right