You Filling up the gas tank in your car is increasingly costly, but if you drive a truck diesel fuel prices have spiked sharply due to supply disruptions because of the war in Iran and are now at a record high above $6 a gallon for all the semis crisscrossing the state carrying the goods and products we consume sell and supply the cost of diesel is a blow to transport companies and likely to show up downstream in the cost of things we're joined now by Dan Johnson president of the Wisconsin Motor Carriers Association and thanks very much for being here thank you for having me so what kind of a shock are these diesel prices right now well obviously just like anybody else we're seeing the the spike and it's it is a great concern to the trucking industry it's not that we haven't been through this before but this is clearly the highest that it's been in record so it's something that our trucking companies they're they're dealing with they have to absorb those costs in some fashion they're trying to mitigate as best as they possibly can but yeah it is a cause for concern right now with those trucking companies what concerns do you have that those prices will just keep breaking records well everybody has that concern I mean we like to see things level off and hopefully dial back quite a bit but you know who knows I mean they just have to plan and prepare one thing with the trucking industry is they're very resilient they've we've seen price spikes this like this before back in 2022 when it got near $6 per gallon for for diesel they adjusted they overcame some of them did have to step out of the industry because they couldn't handle the expenses and then there was a shift within the trucking industry and then the prices came back down but now we're we're back to another unfortunate record high and they're dealing with it as best as they can right now just for a sense of understanding what does it cost now to fill up the tanks on a truck like this right well you know they they did a study the average cost per mile for a truck and we're talking about all the fuel and the other expenses it's about $2.32 per mile that it costs them to to run a truck down the road so anytime you add that when you add another dollar to diesel prices that's going to add another 14 cents per mile to that to that truck cost so you you expand that out over thousands of miles and we're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars that it's going to cost per truck to run them either in the state or across the country so everything is going to be impacted i think in the supply chain with of course the consumer being at the end of that supply chain so who bears the cost at the start well the the trucking company does they bear that cost now they do have some some agreements in place perhaps with their fuel distributor for discounts and they also have the ability to apply surcharges to their customer if they have an agreement if if the price goes above a certain amount in the diesel market that they can add a fuel surcharge now that is available to our medium and larger size fleets who can make those who can make those agreements and enter into those negotiations but our smaller fleets in the private carriers they're probably at a disadvantage because they don't have the opportunity to do that and they're probably going to be paying the retail cost for diesel prices how might we see the downstream cost be affecting everything well it's always you know it's always hard to say how it's going to manifest itself throughout the supply chain because there are so many components within the supply chain again the consumer being the last part of that supply chain so there's certainly the potential for consumers to see and increase cost for groceries and other items other necessities that they need but you know it's going to be up to the trucking company the wholesaler the distributor and the retail to make decisions of their own how much they potentially pass along to the consumer so i read on your website that 95 percent of manufactured tonnage is transported by trucks in Wisconsin are some customers pulling back on orders or production because of the cost now it's very possible we haven't really seen any kind of hard data right now the economy is moving at a pretty good pace so there's a lot of things that are that have already been set in motion as i mentioned previously you know the the trucking company is they don't have the opportunity to stop they have to keep moving the freight they have to keep moving the product to market so if there are orders in they have to keep moving that along the supply chain and get it to its final destination so as to whether there's any stoppage from the production side i really don't know what that's happening but certainly there could be those that are taking a bit of a pause right now and waiting for those diesel prices to come back down with everybody talking about this right now the cost of gasoline and the cost of diesel how does it kind of highlight the work that members of your association do every day and we might take for granted well absolutely we have 3.5 million drivers out there crisscrossing the nation and they're bringing us everything everything that you own everything that you have at one point in time was delivered by a truck and there's a man or a woman behind that wheel who's delivering those items from the producer to market or in here in Wisconsin we're a big agriculture community from the farmer to the consumer and what they do every single day in all sorts of conditions whether it's weather bad traffic distracted drivers construction zones everything that they have to deal with every single day puts more pressure on the work that they do and and we absolutely do take it for granted unfortunately and you know back during the covid years when things were disappearing off of the shelves people were asking where's all the where's all the supplies that we need i'm like well it's on a truck and it's coming here and people started recognizing the the importance of the Wisconsin and the american truck driver to deliver those goods to market and it's it's unfortunate that another incident or issue like this of of rising diesel prices has to bring that to light but that's where we are and people really should take time to appreciate what truck drivers are doing out there to keep the economy moving even in light of rising diesel prices all right dan johnson thanks very much thank you so much appreciate it i'm just wondering i think i read something um when i was looking at all this like hundreds and