guys are. All right so first question really easy. You guys just want to say both of your names and pronounce it for the camera. Okay. I'm Joni Sayers. I'm Jeff Sayers. All right and would your title be like owners of prepaid and farm owners? Yeah. Correct. So first question. Yeah. Why would you why did you guys start this business? Why did you start growing? Wow. Well we had a farmer friend growing corn soybeans corn soybeans and we thought that it's really bad for the environment. What can we do? But we really didn't know because we weren't farmers and then in January of 2018 we saw in the news that hemp was legal to grow again so we thought well that would be great. A small farm sustainable crop that would be great to grow and then we started learning about the properties that so for pain management anxiety and we became super interested. So we started we just dove in and grew that year for the first time. Yeah. And so the bank what was your reaction to it once you heard about it? Devastated. All right. I mean it was just had the wind knocked out of us for a minute but our first thought was well we live, eat, and breathe. This is our life. Right. The other the other side of it is the consumer. We were really or are worried about people that use any cannabinoid for mental or physical health. I mean the list of people that trust us to ask for advice kind of divulge what they're dealing with and we've you know depression, insomnia, pain, fibromyalgia, cancer symptoms, ALS, MS, Parkinson's, dementia, you know it's unbelievable so it really will affect a lot of people with anxiety too. It will really affect so many people. And I know you guys you do a lot of your products had to teaching it but some of them don't. How does that affect those products as well as them? That's a good question because so the you know as the just in the last year things progressed that I'd say I don't know three-fourths of our products have some THC but in smaller amounts you know and and of course we have different recipes that we have made for you know people for different anxiety or sleep or whatever it might be but I'm not sure if if the the next step you know having to reduce to these new minimums are gonna give us much chance to do anything with anything other than just straight CBD you know. Because one line of the new bill is 0.4 milligrams per package so that's a 10 pack that's like nothing in there so and and really people do much better and can take less if they have more cannabinoids so say there's a little bit of THC or there's CBG in it. Your body can absorb it better and use it better if there are more cannabinoids it's called the entourage effect. And did you have any inkling that this band was gonna come when it did? No we didn't. I heard some inklings but we thought no that won't happen but not in a not on this federal level. No. We also didn't have any idea that it was something that they were going to attach to this you know reopening and funding the government bill but here it is and I don't know if you guys you guys go to the farmers market and that's where you sell a lot of your product. Have you heard anything from customers? Have you been to the farmers market about it? Actually tomorrow is our first in-person farmers market so we hopefully will be able to talk to people and you know share with them what we know so far and actually a big part of what we do is education too. We love to educate people about what what our products can do for them but I'll tell you I had about three three times the online orders this week than I normally do. People are panicking I'm sure. And you were telling me earlier that you neither you were farmers before this and so honestly like made this massive move to becoming head farmers. How does that feel knowing that this is now your life and that your life that that's going to be changed? Exactly it's devastating we're kind of scrambling should we do something else or do we wait until January 30th when it might you know change? Yeah it's really so fresh I guess right now we're just kind of talking about a few things but like Yeah so we this morning I left a message and talked with someone at Tammy Baldwin's office and we and then our local representative is Melissa Radcliffe and we left a message and talked with them trying to find out you know what it is that we can do or you know get some help with because this dropping to the level that they proposed you know late in the night of the 11th really morning of the 12th when all this happened has changed you know for us like you said kind of like I'm trying to figure out how how can we help changes supposedly the next funding is January 30th of 2026 so at that point maybe they'll make some changes you know Yeah and before this band got in place did you what was your plans for next year in the future where you wanted to take and David We're still we were still planning on growing we were actually already making plate adjustments for next year and getting excited about what we would do for the coming year which varieties you were going to grow for sure so excited about the future Yeah so we upgraded to more new greenhouses last year and we were debating whether we should do it this year but I think everything at this point I'll probably be at home for a few months yeah yeah and then Noah for a lot of opponents for legalized weed they think there's but this loophole they said that it was allowed people to self-underage people that it could that weed is a pathway for addiction what are you thoughts on safety concerns so we're rounding legalized marijuana well that fits right if it's legalized you're saying if if if marijuana is legalized concerns okay you could sell to underage people and some people think it's of daily prediction what are your responses so we are opposed to a ban obviously regulation is is is good right there should be an age restriction there should be truth and labeling accuracy and labeling there should be the synthetic compounds that were made for example delta 8 delta 10 and you know that loophole we were glad that was closed we've been against delta 8 you know for the last ever synthetic introduced it synthetic THC but I want to say that the other you know the fact that we would be able to do I'm not sure if you know take the the other loophole was the THCA which is nothing more than how you know what the plant grows it as it grows it in that form and then it has to be decarboxylated and so they had a loophole in there and shops were selling you know and still are I guess they have for another 51 weeks of being able to sell the the high THCA which technically a decarved down to THC you know so as far as like a gateway to harsher drugs if you will that's a myth actually states that have legalized THC have seen a significant drop in opioid use and abuse and drug abuse I guess of like overdoses significant so so kind of moving on to the end of this there's about a one-year waiting period before the focal ban takes effect what is your biggest help for what happens in this next year you know I hope that like we said it's not banned but regulated so that we want it to be safe so everyone's like as a grower we're regulated the processor is regulated so now where it's sold and who it is sold to should be regulated as well yeah no I think she covered that so I guess that my second question to that would be what happens if nothing changes the ban does go through what happens to you guys the worst case scenario we sell our farm I don't know at this point I'm gonna go back to what I was considering myself semi-retired though obviously I take myself out of retirement to go back into building in home you know remodeling it's terrible do you have any plans between now and then to help to prepare for whatever you got what I mean what I mean it's like I said if it's been so fast just kind of scrambling we will continue to sell and and continue to educate people yeah when we're waiting for some responses you know I like I said I've been in touch with two of our you know legislators already and we hope to be in touch with more and then find out how this whole process works you know we're kind of new into that what happens at the legislative side prior to you know a bill getting passed or rescinded so one thing that would be fabulous is to be able to educate legislators so they're making these laws but it seems like for example that 0.4 milligram it's just silly it seems like they need to have more knowledge under their belt before they write these laws that are affecting so many people yeah and the numbers that we just saw in the last few days was that there's 320,000 jobs tied into just the hemp industry in the US and $28.4 billion you know annually so you know we're just the small piece of the pie here right nothing comes in mind i think you guys did a good job anything else that you feel like you didn't cover that you want to say i don't think so well is there a truth we were talking to a guy who owns a brewery um and they make THC infused drinks is there a truth that maybe some like bigger corporations see this as a potential income revenue stream and they're trying to kind of get rid of those small you kind of wonder about that we do and we didn't we didn't we didn't know if we should discuss anything you know like on that political side or you know no no okay because the first message that we got from other people was that big pharma came in and and the tobacco and the alcohol and tobacco industry put pressure on for them to get this law into place you know but our industry doesn't have those kind of money and lobbyists you know but no i i think what you're saying is true the one thing that was it's kind of like i put it down here opinion because it's kind of if if it's if this happens the black market will grow so that is unregulated so i worry about the safety of products that might be out there that are unregulated you know i i don't know if it related to that one question but if um Wisconsin jumped in uh with recreational and or medicinal you know do do these other states have to deal with the hemp industry per se like we do here because we're not you know medicinal or recreational THC they're under a whole set of rules that our understanding is that they're not even affected by quote the the the hemp which is anything below 0.3 percent but we're anxious to talk with the right people and find out um you know how they're gonna recognize us i guess would you guys consider moving out of state if this no we've been in medicine i go about of the country just to be close to our own kids off off the way okay our daughter and her husband that we just visited in seattle they're moving to spain oh wow mostly because of gun violence um a little bit because of trump um partly because they can enjoy a year with their daughter they're just gonna live very frugally like it get a little apartment and so hmm be nice of grandma grandpa we're on uh huh right so i mean that is in the back of my head i i don't know it's so we just found out when we were on vacation we just got back yesterday or yeah wednesday night yeah you know so i filled like i said so many orders in the last two days it's crazy people are i had i did have a few people you know say like oh no what's gonna happen or you know but like i said we'll we'll be talking to more people tomorrow um and see what their thoughts are or suggestions too maybe they have some ideas but um i think you know reaching out to legislators and trying to educate them it's probably the best thing we can do right now yeah i just you guys being here i think is great exposure for our industry for as small as it might be in in gain county for per se but in wisconsin in general it's it's you know substantial um but seven i saw i think i was telling you it's all in wisconsin state general it's like seven hundred million dollars in wisconsin alone wow yeah yeah so there's revenue that won't be coming yeah you know and even Melissa agard was really um she was part of the original hemp committee that wrote the rules and um you know we got um asked to educate them and we suggested why don't you speak with some of the scientists were a little biased me in the farmer you know oh so back in 2018 right 2019 or 2020 because it was it was at the the first program was for two years and then after that one started they were writing what they at that time they called the hemp two bill you know and so we got connected with them you know getting them in touch with some scientists to learn what she's saying about uh you know how the plant grows and um how it's processed and all these things that make such a huge difference you know down to the end product you know but well i got um thank you guys both yeah