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I wish you'd want my fuck to be
It's the truth you see
Oh, I fight like you and me
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, oh
Let's take a drink and try to chew on
Just see when the tidings say, say, say
When the tidings say, say, say
The sun is still shining
Coming out of my cage and nothing's doing
Just fine, gotta kind of be down
Because I'm warming up
And starting out with a kiss, how did it end up like this
It was only a kiss, she's now falling asleep
And if she's calling a cab, the boy's having a smoke
And she's taking a track, now they're going to bed
If they're my stomach you sink, then it's all in my head
But she's touching his chest now, he takes off her dress
Now, baby, go
And it's
But it's just the price I pay
I'm testing when you're storming me
Open up my eyes
I'm the time that's the price I pay
16 under screens and no one seems to hear a thing
Do you know that there's still a chance for you
Cause there's a spark in you
You just gotta ignite the light
And let it shine
Just along the night
Like the far left of the light
Cause baby you're a pain
You work
Come on you work
You work
Make it go away
As you shoot across the sky
Baby you're a pain
You work
Come on let your colors burst
Make it go away
You're gonna leave it all at night
You don't have to feel like the wasted space
Your original cannot be replaced
If you only knew what the future holds
After a hurricane comes a rainbow
Maybe a reason why all the doors are closed
So you could open one that leads you to the perfect road
Like a lightning bolt
Your heart will blow
And when it's time to know
You just gotta ignite the light
And let it shine
Just along the night
Like the far left of the light
Cause baby you're a pain
You work
Come on you work
Make it go away
As you shoot across the sky
Baby you're a pain
You work
Come on let your colors burst
Make it go away
You're gonna leave it all at night
Boom boom boom
Even brighter than the moon
Boom boom
It's always been exciting
You, you, you
And now it's time to let it go
Cause baby you're a pain
You work
Come on you work
You work
Make it go away
As you shoot across the sky
Baby you're a pain
You work
Come on let your colors burst
Make it go away
You're gonna leave it all at night
Boom boom
Even brighter than the moon
Boom boom
Even brighter than the moon
Boom boom
Even brighter than the moon
Boom boom
Even brighter than the moon
You're gonna leave it all at night
Boom boom
Even brighter than the moon
You're gonna leave it all at night
Boom boom
Even brighter than the moon
You're gonna leave it all at night
Boom boom
Even brighter than the moon
You're gonna leave it all at night
Boom boom
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It's got to do with it
What's love
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What's love got to do
It's got to do with it
Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken
It may seem to you
That I'm acting confused
When you're close to me
If I can't choose
If I can't choose the taste
I read it someplace
I've got calls to read
There's a name for it
There's a phrase that means
What work ever means
You're doing for me
Oh
What's love got to do
It's got to do
What's love got to do
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What's love got to do
What's love
But a second handy motion
What's love got to do
Got to do with it
Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken
Oh
I've been taking on a new direction
But I have to say
I've been thinking about my own projection
It scares me to feel this way
Oh
What's love got to do
It's got to do
What's love
But a second handy motion
What's love got to do
Got to do with it
Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken
Oh
What's love got to do
It's got to do
Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken
Oh
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I'm about to take a kiss
All you gotta do is be happy
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One, two, three, baby, baby, baby, baby
A-B-C
One, two, three, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby
A-B-C
Just gonna show it to you
Show it to you
How to give it to me
Can you give me a kiss
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Our ABC is easy for a two-three
Our sample has told me ABC
One, two, three, baby, you are eager
Our ABC is easy for a two-three, baby, you are eager
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That song is a love country
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One, two, three, you and me
Yup
Yup, go!
I think I'm back!
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Tell me what you're gonna do
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Now shakey, shakey, baby
Ooh, shakey, shakey, baby, you
One, two, three, baby, you
Ooh, baby, seey, baby
That song will breaky, baby
That song is a love country
Ready, easy, easy
Are you gonna get there
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Ready, easy,Run
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C'mon, C'mon, c'mon, let me show you
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With ABC and
You are the first thing I've ever seen
The many of us living You walk along without a friend
Or never come in a game game
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You put getting all about the one who never ever led you down
And you can talk to him in a time
He's always around
You fill up your life's too far
Just go have a talk with God
When your love's too much too bad
Just go talk to God again
When you feel your love's too bad
Just go have a talk with God
Welcome to a moderated conversation with Vice President Kamala Harris
and Congresswoman Liz Cheney
here in Brookfield, Wisconsin
at the Sharon Lynn Wilson Center for the Performing Arts in the Harris Theater
Today's conversation will be moderated by Charlie Sykes
A longtime radio host here in Wisconsin
whose most recent book is How the Right Lost Its Mind
He now writes for the Atlantic
and last week endorsed Kamala Harris for President
Please welcome Charlie Sykes
Thank you
and welcome to this production of The Odd Couple
and it really is odd, I never thought that I would be here
You never thought that I would be here
but that's because this is not a normal election
This is not an election between Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives
so that's why we're doing this
Dogs and cats together in this strange moments
where we're having this conversation here in Brookfield, Wisconsin
crucial walk and shot county
but we're not going to be talking about a few things
we're not going to be talking about sharks and electrocutions
we are not going to be going through Tony Evers
40 minute playlist and swaying to the music
we're not going to be talking about Jewish space lasers
or Arnold Palmer's putting game
that's the other event down the road
the reason we're having this conversation though
is that despite the clownishness
the stakes are so serious
this is election again
not about the normal divisions in American politics
but about things like decency
and democracy
the rule of law
whether or not we're going to shred the Constitution
and whether or not
America will continue to be a shining city on the hill to the rest of the world
I don't think our guests tonight need any introduction
so I won't spend some time but I do want to say this
political courage is vanishingly rare in our world today
and I know of very few people
more courageous than Liz Cheney
Liz Cheney has given up a lot but she's also inspired a lot of us
and the thing about Liz Cheney
to keep in mind is that Liz Cheney knows
that January 6 was not a day of love
so please join me in welcoming to the stage
Congresswoman Liz Cheney
Thank you. Thank you Liz
and it is my great privilege and honor
to introduce to you tonight
someone who is here precisely because
she believes we have to put country over party
the next president of the United States
Vice President Kamala Harris
Good evening everyone
Good evening
Vice President, welcome back to Wisconsin
It is good to be back
you know Tony Evers
that's funny about his playlists
is it really that long?
No
every time I land in Wisconsin almost every time
Tony Evers the governor will meet me on the tarmac
and because I did live in Wisconsin when I was five years old
he will say welcome home
so I do feel and have a connection to Wisconsin
actually we all have connections to Wisconsin
which makes this event I think so important
with 15 days to go
so let's just dive right into all of this
there are actually undecided voters out there
and they are undecided voters here
people who have never voted for a democrat
moderates conservatives who voted for people
named Bush and Cheney and Ford and Reagan
and Bob Dole
wow that's a throwback isn't it
but I guess the question is
what is your pitch to them?
why should they do something they've never done before
why should they cross over party lines and vote for you?
well I start from the belief
based on a lived experience that the vast majority of us have more in common
than what separates us
I also know that you all are here
spending time that you could be spending doing
a number of other things
with all of the obligations you each have
and you are here because we together love our country
we love our country
and we believe in the foundational principles
that are at stake in this election
I believe that
when we think about who we are as the American people
there is more we have in common than what separates us
and we think about what is at stake
in terms of our democracy
rule of law the constitution of the United States
national security
the standing of our country
in the context of the world
all of that is at stake
and I will share with you Charlie
when I was in the senate for those four years that I was there
my favorite committee was the senate intelligence
committee and I'm going to tell you why
we would walk into that meeting
in a skiff which is a
secure room
we'd have to leave our cell phones outside
the press with all due respect
were not allowed in no cameras
people would walk in
democrats and republicans
take off their suit jacket
roll up their sleeves
and we dispensed with who was a republican
and who was a democrat
we were all Americans
we were all in that room with one singular purpose
to concern ourselves as our highest priority
with the security and well-being
of the united states of america
I think those things are at stake in this election
Congresswoman Cheney, you know how hard this is though
you know how hard it is to break away from tribal
oil to do something you haven't done before
so I'd like you to address that as well
Lindsey Graham was on television yesterday
saying what are you never Trump republicans
you know what are you thinking of
how could you possibly do all of this
there are a lot of people who are listening
to us who
may be disillusioned with
what's happening with the republican party
but they don't
they're afraid of paying the price
because there is a cost to all of it
so what do you say to those americans?
well don't listen to Lindsey Graham
number one
it's good life advice actually
but what I say is that
what undergirds everything
that we are as a nation
everything that we are as a nation
is the rule of law
and it's our constitution
and when you
when you look at
what Donald Trump did
after the last election
when you look at the cruelty
that's involved in someone who
watches an attack
on the united states capital
an attack conducted by people
in his name
and refuses for over three hours
to tell the mob to leave
I mean I really people just need to think about
that that's that's depravity
he watched the attack happen
and people kept asking and please
tell the people to leave
and law enforcement officers were being
brutally beaten and the capital
is being assaulted
and we would not tell people to leave
for over three hours
that cruelty is the same cruelty
that we see when he lies about
the federal government's disaster response
when he puts people's lives at risk
because he won't tell the truth
he's a man who's unfit
to be the president of this good
and honorable and great nation
and so I've spent a lot of time working
before I was elected to congress
in countries around the world
that weren't free
or people were trying to achieve their freedom
and I know how fragile
how fragile this can be
how fragile democracy can be
and so in this election
we have a choice
we have the choice of somebody
and vice president Harris
who you know is going to uphold the rule of law
you know that she's going to
lead this country with a sincere heart
you know that she is
going to always be thinking about
the best for this nation
we might not agree on every issue
but she is somebody
that you can trust
and someone that our children can look up to
and I think it's so important for us
to cast the vote for vice president Harris
this time around
you know vice president
I was thinking about one of your social media posts
recently where you go through all the things
that Donald Trump has bailed out of
that he won't debate you
that he won't do interviews
that he's refusing to release
certain information and you asked an interesting question
what is he hiding
so what in fact is he hiding
well I wonder
what is he hiding
I also wonder what his staff is trying to hide
by preventing
or suggesting he not
debate me again
not do these interviews
the norm is you know that
presidential nominees will do
that interview
he has refused to do that
he is pulling out of interviews
left right and center
and I think that we
what we see about him in public
whether it be his rallies
or as you said
what would it be called
just a solo dance
I don't know if it has a name to it
dance is what we generate
what that was
I think it does lead us
and it should lead us to
observe that he is increasingly
unstable
but you don't have to take my word for it
listen to the people who know him best
the people who worked with him
in the White House
in the Oval Office
in the Situation Room
his former chief of staff
two former secretaries of defense
his secretaries of defense
his former national security advisor
and of course his former vice president
and they have each
talked about
the chief of staff
that Donald Trump has contempt
for the Constitution of the United States
not only has that been said by
a former chief of staff of the former president
but we know he has openly
talked about his intention
to terminate the Constitution
of the United States
I have taken that oath six times
as district attorney
twice elected and reelected
as attorney general of the largest state
in California twice
as the United States senator and actually
now as vice president
and the congresswoman I have talked about that
that is an oath one must take seriously
it is a duty
to defend and honor and uphold
the Constitution of the United States
he has said he would terminate it
anyone who wants to be president of the United States
should never again be able to stand behind
the seal of the president
having said they would terminate the Constitution
of the United States
and again
most recently the report
is that the former chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff
a decorated general
said of Donald Trump
that he is fascist to the core
these are the people who know him best
people who worked with him
and so yes we can talk about
that moment on stage
the music and all that but
I think it's very important
that we acknowledge
and I have said publicly
Donald Trump is an unserious man
and the consequences of him
ever being president of the United States
again are brutally serious
brutally serious
I to the Congresswoman's point
I have now as vice president of the United States
met over 150 world leaders
presidents prime ministers
chancellors and kings
many of them multiple times
we are on a first name basis
most of them allies
in connection with NATO
and I've met with them in connection with our
standing rightly with Ukraine
the world is watching this election
and our allies are worried
because the reality is that
when we as the United States
of America walk in these rooms
around the world
we walk in chin up
shoulders back with the earned
and self appointed authority
to talk about the importance
of democracy and rule of law
and being a role model
this is a room of role models
we know as a role model
people watch what you do
to see if it matches up to what you say
one of my
very real fears trolley to be candid
is I hope that we as the American people
fully understand
how important America is to the world
I hope we really really understand that
because this is about what will happen
too and with us as Americans
but it will impact people around the world
let me follow up on that
Congresswoman because
I was on a podcast recently
with another pundit who was saying
that she was afraid that America
was sleepwalking into authoritarianism
that American voters
were not sufficiently alarmed
as the Vice President just said
the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
just said that Donald Trump was the most
dangerous threat facing the country
do Americans
in this last 15 days
do they understand that
and what has to happen in the next two weeks
for them to really understand
the danger?
I think that they think they do
and you know one of the things I remind people
is that although
not every Republican who
is casting a vote for Vice President Harris
will say publicly that they are
there's clearly you know
a threat associated with that in some instances
but millions will
and they will do that
for a whole range of reasons
but what you mentioned is so important
I mean when I think about
the first time I ever voted was
for Ronald Reagan
I've known presidents well
particularly I know Vice President
well in addition to
Vice President Harris
and I watch
how our presidents have operated
and even when
there have been presidents
that we have potentially
disagreed with on issues
they've respected the Constitution
I mean think about
the 2000 election
and how close that was
and what Vice President Gore
did in
his concession speech
and ensuring that we had the peaceful
transfer of power and so I
would just urge people again
you don't have to
take my word for it
but look at what
the people closest to Donald Trump
are saying about him
look at the testimony
of the leaders of his justice department
the leaders of his campaign
the most senior officials in his white house
look at their testimony
in front of the select committee
you know they're the ones that
told us everything that we know
about his plan to overturn
the last election about
what he did watching the attack
from his dining room
we've never faced a threat like this
before and I think it's so important
for people to realize
this republic only survives
if we protect it
and that means putting partisan politics
aside and standing up
for the Constitution and for what's right
and loving our country more
do you think we'll be hearing more
from some of those folks
in the next 15 days
the generals, the chiefs of staff
the people who really understand
exactly how unfit Donald Trump is
I do
I also think that
you know that
they have been very clear so far
I mean you've had
hundreds of national security officials
who served in republican administrations
endorsed the vice president
and all of the things that
you know the fact that these people
aren't endorsing the fact that
Vice President Pence was the most
loyal person
there was to Donald Trump
he won't endorse him because he knows
Donald Trump asked him to violate his
oath of office now that should also
give you a lot of pause about J.D. Vance
J.D. Vance is there
because he will do what Donald Trump wants
and that makes him
a particular danger to the republic as well
and I'll add to that point
understand also what happened
in the last few months
when the Supreme Court essentially
told the former president
he will be immune
from anything he does
in office
so whereas before
there was at least some threat
of consequence and accountability
that no longer exist
into the congresswoman's point
imagine Donald Trump
based on everything
we know about him
and everything we see now
and before
imagine him with no guardrails
because all of those folks
who worked with him before
they're not those who held him back
who attempted
to ensure that he would
follow the law
are no longer there
and and we have the Supreme Court
and so
the stakes are very high
okay let's go to the audience
for some questions
we have some undecided voters
we have some questions for you
Madam Vice President
let's go to Lisa Brockman
from Madison
Lisa is a small business owner
thank you for taking my question
I have a question on reproductive
freedom
and I am
a Christian pro-life family
and I was a Republican
until Donald Trump's presidency
like most Americans
I believe in a woman's right
to choose
and with the overturning of
Roe v Wade my 21-year-old daughter
now has fewer rights than her mother
or her grandmothers
I no longer recognize
the Republican Party
they have introduced bills
from everything
from restricting birth control
to bringing homicide charges
for abortion
it is such an extreme
radical agenda
by any standards
and it seems less about
the unborn
and more about controlling women
so my question is
what are your thoughts
on this extremism
and how can we restore
those fundamental human rights
that have been taken away from the
American women?
Thank you
so to your point
when Donald Trump was
president he
hand-selected three members of the
United States Supreme Court with the intention
that they would undo the protections of Roe
and they did as he intended
and now there are at least 20 states
in our country
that have criminalized health care providers
I mean in Texas the law
provides for prison for life
for a doctor, nurse, health care provider
for doing what they believe
is health care
and in the best interest of their patient
punishing women
I was actually
just this week
just a few days ago in the state of Georgia
with the mother
of a young woman who died
because of Georgia's abortion ban
and she had to go to another state
and it's a long and very tragic story
that did not have to be
and here's how I think about this issue
one does not have to abandon their faith
or deeply help the Leafs to agree
that the government
these folks in a state capitol
much less Donald Trump
should not be making this decision
for her if she chooses
she will talk with her priest or pastor
rabbi or her mom
not the government
and I also have found
though since the two years that the DOPS
decision came down that this happened
I have had conversations
with a number of people who
were opposed to abortion
and remain opposed to it
but did not intend for the harm
that we are seeing to happen
and I think as this has
this decision came down
and we are seeing the harm
there are more and more people
who are agreeing
that this should not be the government
making this decision for women
and their families
and the way that we
will address this
is eventually Congress needs to pass a law
restoring those protections
and we need to agree
that in our society
you know we should not have laws
that are treating people
in a way that is causing such harm
I'll give you another example of the harm
that is going on
I started my career as a prosecutor
I have prosecuted everything from low-level
offenses to homicides
but one of the reasons I became a prosecutor
is because when I was in high school
I learned that my best friend was
being molested
by a stepfire
and so I said to her you have to come live with us
I call my mother my mother said of course and she did
and I made a decision
early in my life
that I wanted to do the work that was about
protecting vulnerable people
there are some of these
bans that include no exception
for rape or incest
I have specialized
in those kinds of cases
and the notion that we would tell
a survivor of a crime
that is a violation
to their body
that they have no right to make a decision
about what happens to their body next
I mean I think that's just unconscionable
I think it's immoral
and so this is one of the issues
that is at play and when
this issue has been on the ballot
since the DOPS decision came down
in so-called red states
and so-called blue states
the American people have voted for freedom
Congresswoman Cheney, I'd like to get your thoughts
on this as well
You know, I am
I'm pro-life
and
I have been
very
troubled, deeply troubled
by what I have
watched happen
in so many states
since DOPS
and
I have been
troubled by the extent to which
you have women who
as the vice president said in some cases
have died
who can't get medical treatment
that they need because providers are worried
about criminal liability
you know, we're facing a situation today where
I think that it's an untenable one
and I think that
as we deal with issues
like this one
having a president
who understands
how important compassion
is, who understands
that these shouldn't be
political issues
that we ought to be able to have these discussions
and say, you know what
even if
you are pro-life as I am
I do not
believe, for example, that
the state of Texas ought to have the right
as they're currently suing to do
to get access to women's medical records
and there are some very
fundamental and fundamentally dangerous
things that have happened
and so I think that
it's crucially important for us
to find ways
to have the federal government
play a role
and protect women
from some of the worst harms that we're seeing
but again
I just think that
if you look at the difference
in the way that Donald Trump
is handling this issue, you know, Donald Trump at one point
called for criminal penalties
for women
and now, you know, he's been
now trying to
sort of be all over the place on this issue
although he expresses great pride
for what's happened
and I think the bottom line
on this as on so many other issues
is, you know, you just can't
count on him, you cannot trust him
we've seen the man that he is
we've seen the cruelty
and America deserves much better
Thank you
so many
we have another question
Carolyn Mitchell
from Wauwatosa
has a question for the vice-president
as well
Hi, I have concerns about
the strength and the health
of the Medicare and the social security system
there have been a lot of
suggestions for improving
or protecting it
some of them
raising the age
or full
acceptance of social security
there's also
the idea that we would
end the cap
on the
social security tax
there is also the suggestion
that we raise the tax rate
on both Medicare
and Social Security
and of course the last one
is to reduce the benefits
so my question for you is
how can we
protect the health of both
Social Security and Medicare
without reducing the benefits?
Thank you
So, first of all, thank
you for your question
actually just today
I believe it was within the last 24 hours
or so
an independent
review of Donald Trump's policy
on Social Security
has indicated that under his policy
Social Security would become
solvent in six years
and
what I and you and I think
most of us know is that we have
many many seniors in our country
their Social Security check
is their only form of income
it's everything
and the only thing they have to live on
to pay rent, groceries
all of that
and so we must protect Social Security
if you look at Donald Trump's
project 2025
the plan that they have
if he is elected or re-elected
President
it would attack Social Security
it would attack Medicare and back
to the point about just what is
in the interest of dignity
the President of the United States
should have as one of their highest
concerns
the dignity of the American people
and in particular those who have lived a
productive life
to retire and go into their senior years
with the dignity
of not worrying about
whether they're going to have a roof over their head
or be able to eat
so my plan includes what we need to do
to strengthen the solvency of Social Security
it includes what we're going to need
to do and work with Congress
to make sure we're putting more into it
and it cannot be about cutting benefits
because right now those benefits
are barely adequate as it is
what we must also do is continue to
strengthen
Medicare around what we've been working on
which is to allow Medicare to negotiate
prescription medication costs
for our seniors
so in the last four years
we have now capped the cost of insulin
at $35 a month for seniors
this is a huge issue
for so many who have
otherwise either taken a bus trip to Canada
to try and get their prescription
medication you're smiling you know what I'm
talking about
you have I'm not suggesting
not suggesting that
and we've also capped the cost of
prescription medication at 2000 a year for our seniors
understanding again that this is a
related issue which is
what is causing our seniors to be on the verge
of bankruptcy and homelessness
by the way
the other work that we have to do
is to deal with
home health care and how Medicare
is covering that so part of my plan
is right now
the only way that
there will be coverage for home health care
is generally speaking
Medicaid
which means that the family
or the individual would have to
spend down all of their savings
to be able to be eligible
for Medicaid
and frankly I think
that's wrong
and it's just wrong
you know I took care of my mother
when she was sick
and the work that needs to happen
to support our seniors
to be able to stay in their home
to be able to
live a life with dignity
should include that we will
pay attention to the fact that not everybody
can afford that help not everyone has
a family member who can do it
and so my plan includes
having Medicare cover
home health care work for seniors
so that
you can stay in your home
for example and have
someone who can prepare a meal
and help you put on a sweater
but the core point being dignity
and understanding that
we should not have a society
that allows
or requires our seniors
to go into poverty
in order to qualify
for the care that they may need
that I think we most
would agree should provide
and we have another question
from the audience from Dan
who is a retired school teacher
taught at MPS
and now lives in Waukesha
again a genuinely undecided voter
I understand
good evening
I was told I was going to be an alternate
so I was a little worried about
getting my question but
this is a question
actually retired from MPS
but I currently teach
and I teach at a private Catholic school
and a Catholic but I've also been
pro-life, pro-choice depending
but I have five daughters
and I think it's my duty
to continue
with the children I teach
as well to see
that we need to respect women
and I've really come to the conclusion
that this toxicity that exists
is just
rather embarrassing and as a
lifelong Republican
who I thought your father would be a great president
thank you
I'd say George wasn't but
but I've come to this realization
and it's been very difficult
so I'm just my big question
was for the future of my children
and also
students that I encounter
and try to show that we have to have
some kind of civility
like we did back in the 80s
when Ronald Reagan and Tippo in the old course
could talk about things
and solve problems and now it's
trying to get one better than the other
and so I'm just wondering
in your position now
how to convince people like me
who some of my siblings might be
questioning what I'm doing here
but I think
like you said we have to be courageous
and that's what I'm trying to be
and so what do you think we can do
in the last 15 days or you can
or a man or a place president
what you can do to try to get some of these people
crossover I know you already said that
some of them probably won't say who we're going for
but there's something
I could take with me to say
this sounds very good
we have at least listened to this
to reduce the toxicity
yeah I am
I think that
you know you've really put your finger
on something that's so important
and you see it as a teacher
you know any of us who are around
young children I see it as a mom
my kids aren't so young anymore
but you know the
when they look at
how elected officials
and in particular how
Donald Trump is conducting himself
now that's not a lesson
that anybody would look up to
and I think about it
often from the perspective of
the men and women who have
worn the uniform of our country
and who have sacrificed
so much for our freedom
all of us have an obligation
to be worthy of that sacrifice
and in this
you know
in this moment
there are millions of
good and honorable people
who Donald Trump has just
fundamentally betrayed
and I think it's so important
for people to think about
this from the perspective of
you know
the decision to give somebody
the power of the presidency
means that you're
handing someone that
the most
awesome and significant power
of any office
anywhere in the world
and you have to
choose people
who have character
choose people of good faith
you know the framers knew this
the framers knew
that it was so important
that you know we take an oath
but that also fundamentally
you had to have people of character
Donald Trump has proven
he's not one of those people
by his actions
so you know what I say to people
is look for us to get back
to a time where we are actually
having policy debates
and discussions and disagreements
we have to protect
what undergirds all of this
and what undergirds all of it
is the Constitution
and we have to be willing
to say
we're a nation we're better than
partisanship
you know and I say this as someone
who spent a lot of years
engaged in partisan battles
and
there are important
debates we have to have
but if we allow
someone
again if we give him the power
again
to you know
do all of the things he tells
the Constitution
he says he'll deploy the military
against the enemy within
that is a risk
that we just simply can't take
as a nation
and I think that you know this
vote this election cycle
this time around has to be about
so much more than
partisanship and I will just end
this by saying
and I also know
because I have spent time with
Harris because I have come to
understand what she believes
about how she will govern
that she will be a president
for all Americans that she's
committed to listening and
committed to having viewpoints
some of which you know come from
different ends of the political
spectrum and if you think about
how you conduct
you know your life outside of
politics how we all conduct our
everyday lives those are the kinds
we work with like if you wouldn't
if you wouldn't hire somebody
to babysit your kids like you
shouldn't make that guy the president
of the United States
that's pretty basic
so Madam Vice President
this question goes to the heart of
our discussion tonight because it's
not about politics it's not about
left versus right we're talking about
the impact the coarsening of the culture
the way in which we have been
taught to fear and hate one another
and how our debates have just
devolved into sort of
trolling one another
how do we get back from that
so I think that Dan raised
and Charlie your point is
really also
hitting on
we have to tap into
and rejoice frankly
in the spirit of who we are
as Americans
and we are
and ambitious people
we have aspirations
we have dreams
we are optimistic
by nature
and
we I think
value certain
qualities in
our leaders to your point
of being a teacher
those of us who are parents or
parents in any form
the
the notion over the last
several years coming from Trump
and those who follow him
meaning people like
who he's running with not his voters
but just others
the notion that the measure of the
strength of a leader is based on who
you beat down
is just wrong headed
I think most of us would
agree that the real measure
of the strength of a leader is based
on who you lift up
I think most of us would agree
and most of us would agree
that it is
when we talk about character
it is the sign of strong character
to have empathy
to have some level of
concern and care about the
well-being of other people
and then to do something about that
and I think there's so much about
this election that calls
into question whether
we are
on a track with a Donald Trump
as president
to actually teach
and to show our children
our definition
of a leader
and is that it
one of the issues that I think
has resulted in the kind of
toxicity that you've been
describing
is that he
tends to encourage
us as Americans to
point our fingers at each other
that's not in our best interest
the vast majority of us have so much
more in common than what separates us
we are stronger as a nation
when we
are working toward
a common goal
at least on the most basic
fundamental priorities
and I think in this election
you can look at
for example how he presents in
his
events to know
that he really does not have a plan
for America that is about
investing in our future
investing in our children
investing in
our economies
and new industries
investing in our relationships around the world
it's all about himself
and his personal grievances
and do we want to present the
United States who spends full-time
plotting revenge while they sit in the
Oval Office
or a president who
is actually focused on the American
people
I would also say as a
point that I think the congresswoman
exemplifies in so many ways
the strength of our democracy
requires a strong two-party system
it really does
it requires
that we have
healthy debate
that we have healthy debate
based on
you know based in logic
in fact and that we
debate it out have good various debates
have a good fight over policy
that's good for democracy
but not
to point our fingers and call each other
names over trivial
petty grievances
so
I think all of that is at stake in this
election and tapping into
the commonalities that we have around
some of these fundamental principles I think is going to be key
well that's why the stakes are so high right
because the presidency is a role model
but America is a role model to the rest of the world
so in the very short amount of time we have left
congresswoman change
just talk a little bit more about the
stakes for the world
we haven't talked about the stakes
for the future of Ukraine
NATO of all the other democracies
we're looking to us
they're so so high Charlie
and you know
America's safety and security
depends upon America leading
and it depends upon
allies
and when you have
someone who is
erratic and chaotic
and unstable
that puts all of us
at risk
I tell people often you know
I spend a lot of time working on national security issues
and when people that I know
in the Republican party
tell me they might be considering voting
for Trump from a national security perspective
I ask them
go look at his national security
policies please go look at them
because what he's proposing
in terms of withdrawing from
NATO
welcoming Vladimir Putin to attack
our NATO allies
praising he praises
Kim Jong Un, the leader of North Korea
and President Xi of China
and Putin of Russia
and if you listen to him
he doesn't just praise those people
generally he praises them
for their cruelty
for their tyranny
that's not who we are as a nation
it's not who we are
and the world needs us to be better
and our own freedom requires
that we have a president who understands
America has to lead
and that our strength comes both
from our greatness and also
from our goodness and that's
Vice President Harris
and just to thank you
but just as a point of emphasis
on this important point
I understand that
this is an individual Donald Trump
who is easily manipulated
by flattery
and we've seen that
we've don't forget he
dared to even consider
inviting the Taliban to
Camp David
remember all this the love letters
with Kim Jong Un
let's remember what we just most recently
what was reported during the height of
COVID Americans were dying
over the hundreds a day
nobody could get their hands
on COVID tests
you remember what that was
during that time
he secretly
sent COVID tests
to Vladimir Putin
for his personal use
on the issue of Ukraine
he says well I'd solve that in a day
well I don't think we as Americans
think that the president
of the United States should solve
an issue like that
through surrender
and understand
that's what would happen
understand that's what would happen
Vladimir Putin would be
sitting in keve
if Donald Trump were president
and understand what that means
as so much
our allies understand and that's why
they're concerned about this election
if Putin were to get away with
invading the sovereignty
and territorial integrity of Ukraine
because America
the leader in bringing the allies
together in standing
for fundamental international rules
and norms like sovereignty
and territorial integrity
Vladimir Putin got away with that
you think he wouldn't march next
right into Poland
and the rest of Europe
because Donald Trump wants to please
somebody that he considers to be
so
on this and so many issues
the stakes are extremely high
but
I would say this is a final point
for now
this is not
as much an issue
of what we are against
as what we are for
and I'll end my point where I started
we love our country
and our country is worth
fighting for
and that's how I think of this
we are
our democracy will only
be as strong as our willingness to
fight for it
and you all are taking your time
out of your lives to be here
because we I think
agree on that
among the most fundamental principles at stake
and I thank you for the time you've taken
and I hope to earn your vote by the way
thank you
and we have
15 days to make a decision
thank you all for coming here
thank you
Congressman Liz Cheney
Vice President Kamala Harris
thank you so much
thank you
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