You You You You You You You You You You You Over one night this week Wisconsin volunteers Fanned out to find the number of people Experiencing homelessness in what's called A point in time count. There are some 5,000 people without shelter in the state and Now 10 counties in northeast Wisconsin are scrambling to Find places for people to stay after a nonprofit provider Of homeless services abruptly closed due to bankruptcy. An organization called the balance of state continuum of Care which covers 69 counties in Wisconsin is rushing In to respond along with state agencies and other programs. Balance of state homeless systems manager Ryan Graham joins us Now. Ryan thanks very much for being here. Yeah thank you for having me. So how many people served by the bankrupt provider of Services are at risk of homelessness in those 10 Counties? Well you know I think There was 134 households that were served in The direct homeless housing programs that we were We were able to Maintain housing for it but there's a significant amount of Homeless folks still in that community that are in need of Housing and You know that lack of Services and that closing of that agency Really creates a gap in institutional knowledge that creates A gap in process and systems and All the things that were established there You know and looking for resources and re-establishing That is going to take A considerable amount of effort Just stepping back at the whole picture is the number of People in Wisconsin experiencing homelessness on the rise? I would say yes. You know we just did our point in time count Wednesday We are in the process of our post pit count Meaning we still up for a week after our point in time count We are still looking to engage and Identify those folks who are connecting with Services in that week prior to the council We can include those folks And so the data is not out yet But you know We haven't fixed the housing problem We haven't fixed the lack of Services problems so An affordability of living Just in general has not gotten any better So yeah I do expect The housing problem to increase Not decrease Because how important is that kind of point in time count Toward understanding the needs out there It's very important You know it's really our only data point that includes Folks that we are engaging with that are sleeping on Outside so unsheltered Our place is not meant for habitation Folks that are sheltered engage with housing programs But also our DV population And so while We Obviously do not locate everybody Who's experiencing homelessness in that night or the week prior We're really comfortable saying it's at minimum This is what our homeless problem is And it's a good place to see See trends right because of the structure and the way that's been set up consistently for years It's a really good data point to look at trends and how Homelessness is and how we're responding to homelessness in Wisconsin Is there enough state federal and other funding to cover resources needed for this work? Not even remote We are really working hard to do as much as we can With pennies of what we need to do the work And that takes a collaborative effort So we work hard in all of our counties You know really to build that collaboration And work together to try and problem solve and figure out solutions For people experiencing homelessness As to federal funding That point in time count I understand is used to apply for federal grants For housing services What kind of uncertainty in that federal funding is there right now? Yeah, I mean I think there's a significant amount of uncertainty You know I think you know looking at the federal COC program Through HUD you know they're looking at making significant changes Away from permanent supportive housing programs That we know to be affected And moving more towards transitional Non-permanent supportive housing Permanent housing or permanent housing efforts You know so I think that's a significant change Without protecting the folks that were already housed in these programs And so there's a significant shift That is going to provide I think a lot of housing and security For folks who were previously homeless Now are securely housed And we don't know what that's going to look like Here moving forward So there's a lot of uncertainty that way We leave it there Ryan Graham Thanks very much Yeah, happy soon For more on this and other issues facing Wisconsin Visit our website at pbswisconsin.org And then click on the news tab That's our program for tonight I'm Frederica Fryberg, have a good weekend Thank you It's too bad Yeah, well thank you for your work