You How might the debate performances of the candidates move the needle in the fifty three-day sprint to election day? We asked Marquette University Law School poll director Charles Franklin out this week with his latest survey and hi, Charles Good to be here. So your latest survey was in the field before the debate But does a successful performance move the needle for a candidate? I think historically less and less recently than it did in the past I think good perspective is Joe Biden had an absolutely Terrible debate and he only lost about four percentage points in the polls before he dropped out So I think expecting a debate bump of any kind Three four or five points would be wildly out of line with what the last debate did a point or two Maybe but it may also help bring people home to their parties More solidify the votes for both sides So your poll was in the field immediately following the Democratic Convention and we did see some movement for Kamala Harris With 52% to 48% for Harris over Donald Trump. How does that compare to your polling last month? Yeah, that was a couple of points up for Harris and a point down for for Trump So not much movement remember the margin of errors 4.6 So each of those moves is is modest compared to the margin of error But it does reinforce the idea that Harris had a pretty good convention and that that showed up in this poll It's also your first poll with VP candidate Tim walls On the ticket. What kind of favorability does he have and does he factor into this of the four Presidential and vice presidential walls is the only one with a net positive favorability plus six more Favorable than unfavorable, but he also has the largest don't know at 19% that don't know enough about him yet And so Initially the reaction is strong. We asked the same question of walls that we asked about JD Vance Do you think he's an excellent good fair or poor choice among Democrats? 90% think walls is an excellent or good choice among Republicans It was 75% that said the same thing about JD Vance the week after that convention So both parties are quite satisfied with their VP nominees Democrats a little bit more Let's take a look at the Wisconsin US Senate race among registered voters It's 52% for Tammy Baldwin to 48% for Eric hubdy. Now this has tightened a little it has tightened a little The range over recent polls has been between about a four-point Baldwin lead and about a seven-point lead It was closer to five last time. So just a smidgen closer. One thing that's happened is hubdy has been getting better and better known Only 22% still say they haven't heard enough about him now. That was 80% in January And he this time he made a little bit of progress on the favorable unfavorable dimension He's still not negative, but he's a little better than he was last month One thing that stood out to me in your polling on this particular race was that Independence favor Baldwin by 65% to hubdy's 33% the caution here is Independence are a fairly small sample. They're only about six or eight percent of the public So there's a lot of margin of error there But what we have seen consistently is Independence were favoring Trump while Biden was still in they came to about evenly divided last month this month They're pretty strongly favoring both sets of Democrats Harris and Baldwin I would be very cautious about thinking this is a permanent position Because of the sample size and because independence or independence They do change their minds and they can be so critical in the last week or two of the campaign Making up their minds late. Let's talk about enthusiasm to vote in your poll. This also stood out 72% of Democrats say they are very enthusiastic to vote compared to 63% of Republicans now how have these numbers shifted they've changed tremendously Back in the spring and through the point where Biden dropped out Republicans were 10 to 15 points or even 20 points at one stage ahead of Democrats in enthusiasm In July when Biden dropped out in Harris had just gotten in the race We saw Democrats closed the gap and almost catch up to Republicans This month Democrats have pulled clearly ahead. I should add Republicans got more enthusiastic after their convention, too So it's not like they were lacking enthusiasm. They gained as well, but they've helped steady this month while Democrats continued to rise What are the kinds of events that factor in? Particularly to enthusiasm. Well, I think the biggest thing is simply the change of candidates that Joe Biden is still Quite unpopular in the state only 41% approve of the job he was doing and that was a tremendous drag on Democrats and boost to Republicans With him out and Harris having had a good stretch News-wise and presentation-wise. I think that is a big part of this shift I'm talking about issues the top three for Wisconsin respondents were the economy abortion and immigration With of course the economy being kind of way outside But there's a sharp partisan split in who cares about what issues it's gigantic now All three partisan groups Republicans, independents and Democrats put the economy either first or second. So that's very high for everybody Democrats put abortion as their top issue, but independents put it way down as an important issue and for Republicans They put immigration as the second highest issue, but independents put that quite a ways down So if you think about trying to appeal to those undecided or independent voters The economy is the place where everybody cares and then you've got two issues that really appeal to the bases of each party But don't seem to appeal that much to independents. All right, Charles Franklin. Thank you very much for your work. Thank you It's the economy yeah, I know I know Yeah, I think the deep thing there is is Harris's middle-class Argument, you know You