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walk me through the quick version of the last two weeks

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for you, because this has got to be just a pretty up and down,

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The last two weeks has been absolutely

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a roller coaster, a whirlwind, making a decision

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to suspend my campaign based off of the information

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that I have, which is a really tough decision to make.

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And then coming back into this race,

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because so much information has changed

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since I stepped out of this race.

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And I like to make my, the best decisions

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based off of the data, based off of the facts.

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And because that has changed, I'm back into this race.

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Yes, it's been a whirlwind, but we

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have seen an incredible amount of home

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made some sense coming back into the game.

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And so to have Governor Evers endorsement,

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laborers, mayors all across the state of Wisconsin,

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we're really excited as far as what we're

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going to be able to do on August 11th.

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keep it blue on November 3rd.

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So look, somewhere down the road,

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when you have time to reflect,

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do you think there'll be an idea that maybe this

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was a benefit to you?

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as opposed to if you just stayed in the race

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and then had a surge?

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wonder what would have happened,

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or how things would have unfolded if I was in this race.

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We don't know, it can't live into a crystal wall.

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But we did see a resurgence of energy.

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that was at our launch party.

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for us to not only just win this governorship,

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but to flip the state assembly.

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that we're building, but we can't make it seen

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as if it was going to coast, you know,

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through this primary.

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I have to earn every single boat and I plan on doing it.

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So there's a narrative that's clearly shaping of,

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there's Francesca Hong, who's been pulling

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pretty consistently in the lead.

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She's over on the farther left with her platform.

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who can be head to head with her.

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Is there a concern that the rest of you

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can kind of split the centrist moderate votes

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of those that either like you guys better

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or are worrying about a general election

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that she might not be best suited for?

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Well, this is a democracy, right?

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or run for governor.

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I'll be the first to say, just because you're running,

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doesn't mean you should become the next governor.

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is to make sure that we can tackle the affordability crisis.

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to pay for their own groceries,

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afford housing, childcare, healthcare, you name it.

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We don't want to see a Republican,

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a mega-extremist occupying the governor's office.

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it's extremely important that Democrats hunker down.

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the necessary coalition in order to defeat Tiffany, you know.

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there's a lawsuit that's been filed by the Democratic Party,

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trying to allow people to spoil absentee ballots.

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in how they voted.

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when we're talking about something

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that may be a close election in the end?

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I mean, this is not about, you know, the candidates.

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we suspended our campaign in July 8th.

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that you allow people voices to be heard.

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while I was out of this race,

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a lot of people were quite frankly disappointed

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because they felt like they cast their ballot

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and it was for now.

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pushing this lawsuit, trying to overturn the guidance

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that was given.

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but we're so close to an election.

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for Democrats picking the right nominee,

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that the Democratic Party is bringing

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to allow everybody's voice to be heard.

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of Democratic voters are still undecided.

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Are they gonna play, follow the leader?

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looking for who's got momentum,

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who's got the best chance?

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on someone who doesn't have,

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that someone who's not gonna win.

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and join the winning team kind of thing?

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like six to seven to nine candidates in this race.

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that could be for many voters.

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in some type of capacity at the state level

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but I just want them to look at not just

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what we wanna bring to the state of Wisconsin,

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as far as our vision and the mission,

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to make sure that every single community,

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rule or suburban, urban has an opportunity to thrive.

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You know, I'm the only executive in this race.

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I've had a great opportunity to do great work here

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in Milwaukee County and extend that work

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across the state of Wisconsin.

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as the next governor.

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Republicans and national media are jumping all over

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the Democrats in disarray and chaos.

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Is there something to be said for having more attention?

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Like people are not waking up like,

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oh, wow, things are, there is an election.

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I may have forgotten about that.

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and throwing bombs out there.

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I mean, heck, they're even investing in meddling

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in our democratic primary for governor.

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the Republicans to focus on their side of the aisle,

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focus on what they need to be doing while we sort this out.

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And again, democracy can be messy.

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They're gonna push their candidate,

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but we can't continue to tear down one another, right?

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as a Republican or as a Democrat

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or a democratic socialist of America or MAGA,

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our goal is to make sure that we are,

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we're delivering results for our, for working families,

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for real people in the state of Wisconsin.

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and where people side on the political spectrum

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it's a lot of gray in politics.

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It doesn't matter what you believe in

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or who you want to vote, we know that we have to do better.

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what it looks like right now of how clean or needed

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the Democratic primary may be.

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this will be forgotten by the time

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anywhere close to ballots coming out in the fall.

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Is that fair, do you think?

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I think that, you know, we've experienced a lot of trauma,

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when you think about our elections, right?

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And we're still relitigating a 2020 election related

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whether Donald Trump, Boston or not,

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and he absolutely did.

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For us to focus on not just the candidate themselves,

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to really do a deep dive into each candidate

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and what they bring to the table.

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while we are fighting for our candidate,

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let's make sure we're respecting one another

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and focused on our ultimate goal come August 11th.

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to himself for quite a while.

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portraying himself as the friendly guy at the bar.

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Is that gonna be too much to overcome

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when it comes to redefining him

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in the eyes of people that may not have had

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an opinion of him before?

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because he's defined himself already.

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almost a decade ago, not mistaken.

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to do whatever Trump tells him to do a vote,

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whatever Trump wants.

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it doesn't wanna take a bad vote.

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He just doesn't show up to session.

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I mean, he's created barriers, put up barriers

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when it comes out to reproductive freedom.

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He doesn't believe that we should be investing

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in childcare and in public education.

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He wants to freeze our utility rates,

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which means that we're gonna have to burn more coal

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and we won't be able to invest

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in the clean energy infrastructure

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that we need here in the state of Wisconsin.

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know who he has always been.

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we have to show who exactly times if he has been,

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or excuse me, a state senator as well.

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Will there be enough money

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for a Democrats to be able to do that?

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being deep in debt.

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The state Democratic party has not raised nearly

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as much as some people might've expected

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to be able to transfer to the winning candidate.

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Obviously, you guys are spending all your money right now.

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What's that period gonna look like in mid-August

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when he's running ads attacking the winner

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and Democrats are still trying to fundraise?

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in the past couple of days.

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because unfortunately, it does take money

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we're spending in these races?

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We can be solving the problems

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that we're actually talking about

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and running these campaigns on.

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to talk to as many grassroots supporters as possible

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because it's about putting your money

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where your mouth is, right?

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And so if we want to not just win the governorship

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and keep it blue, but if we want to take over the state Senate,

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take over the state assembly, it's gonna take money.

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There's one other power that I believe,

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Trump's pun not intended money power is,

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and that's people power.

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And so as long as we continue

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to build the necessary coalition,

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where we have voters, we have supporters,

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we have folks who are willing to volunteer their time

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to talk about this message,

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about what is actually on the ballot

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because it's not just the candidates,

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it's reproductive freedom.

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It's affordable housing, right?

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It's childcare, it's health care,

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it's expanding badge of care,

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it's making sure that our farmers get access

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to the resources that they need

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so they can become more sustainable

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because they're not looking for a hand-doubt.

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And so as long as we continue to do that,

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build this momentum, there's no doubt in my mind

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that we'll keep the governorship.

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So you've been in this race, obviously,

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for a long time since last fall.

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You've had months and months to travel to state,

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meet people, shake hands.

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Is this last stretch though,

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just about dollars and campaign ads

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and getting your message out,

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or is it still about meeting people

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even in these last couple days?

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All of the above, you know,

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you're gonna need those dollars, right?

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Those dollars help to pay for, you know,

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lodging while we're traveling across the state,

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gasoline at the pump while we're traveling across the state

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and putting up ads, utilizing both traditional

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and non-traditional media.

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But it's also, I have to go out there, you know,

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we have been traveling all across the state,

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we've been in the pier, we've been in Marinette,

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we've been in the cross, we've been in from Roqua,

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we've been in Paloy, we've been in Madison,

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all those days in just the past five,

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all those places in just the past five days.

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And so I don't plan on leaving no stone unturned,

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and we're gonna put a lot more miles on the truck

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to make sure that we're earning every vote

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across Wisconsin.

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Have you noticed people that maybe weren't as tuned

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into your campaign, but now with like the return,

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it's like, oh, well, now I do wanna check this guy out.

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You know, Governor Evers says, listen to this guy.

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Well, I think that right now,

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this is where people are actually starting

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to tune in a lot more.

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And so, you know, the read launch definitely helped us

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with that momentum, and we know we need to continue

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to ride that wave, but it's gonna take some hard work.

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So I'm looking forward to, you know,

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traveling all across the state,

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with Governor Evers by my side,

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making the case a while be the best governor

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for the state of Wisconsin.

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If you win, it's just gonna be the new platform,

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like suspend mid-term and then relaunch.

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I would not recommend anybody to suspend their campaign

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in the middle of this, you know, I'll tell you that,

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you know, we suspended our campaign, you know, we endorsed.

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And once that information came out that next Monday,

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I started getting all this phone calls.

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And I'll be honest with you, I said, no, me and my wife,

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we said, no, we booked the trip to Jamaica,

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we're ready to leave at the end of this month,

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but we prayed about it.

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And after that prayer, our prayer was actually answered.

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And so, you know, the biggest lesson that I've learned

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throughout all this, make sure you buy traveling shirts.

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But that had to be, because people talked about,

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like, the numbers in campaign financing,

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like the numbers raised represent a momentum behind them.

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And when the numbers are inflated,

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that's not the true picture.

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I mean, there's gotta be a gut punch of like, what?

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Like, well, I mean, it was a gut punch,

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but, you know, I'll talk to Lieutenant Governor twice

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to her that week before I got into the race.

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And I let her know, while I was angry and disappointed

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by what had happened, I do not believe this is her fault.

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This is the part, you know, her campaign managers

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for who she fired.

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I was still going to continue to back her,

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because at the time, that's with the information,

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and the data said that we should do to make sure

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that we're allowing the best candidate to win this race.

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But when she made her decision to drop out,

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I made my decision to get back in.

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And so, now, you know, I'm gonna continue

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to talk to as many people as possible,

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keep my energy up, raise the funds.

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And I think that is showing that we're building

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so much momentum.

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550,000 dollars raised in the first five days,

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volunteers, labor organizations,

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elected officials, including Governor Evers,

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endorsing us, because they know about my judgment.

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They know the experience that I bring,

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and they know that I care about the people of the States.

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So, is Jamaica re-booked, or is it just on hold?

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I'm trying to still figure that out,

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as far as what we're gonna do with Jamaica,

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but hopefully, I'll find out soon,

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because we're supposed to be leaving on July 3rd.

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All right, anything else you want to add along these lines?

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They can hit everything.

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All right, that's what we need.

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All right, thank you.

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Appreciate it.

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Thanks for coming in.

