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I know that's the worst mic test to give.

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They really want you to say something that's more appropriate of what you're going to say

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when you actually talk, but there I go.

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We'll get these off the thing just in case I need them.

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Does that mean you're ready?

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I'm just trying to get my cheeks to be rosy.

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Relax it out.

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Good to see you again.

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It's good to see you too, Murr.

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By the time this airs, we know that little clock on your website will have been ticking,

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ticking, ticking and it will hit zero.

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What has it been like and how long has that clock been ticking to make all this happen?

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So it's been a five years plus countdown in terms of seriously being able to see the finish line.

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my head and pinch my cheeks and sit, you're going to do something young man, you know,

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keep going to school, you know, give back to the community, you know, keep your faith to

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stand on their shoulders and to realize that they saw something in me and they encouraged

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It says this is going to be a sanctuary for healing, a catalyst for growth where we bring

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How the heck do we do that Alex?

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of medicine and public policy are showing that many of our degenerative diseases are stress-related.

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I haven't raised all this money, so black people can have fancy places to have dances.

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Like, that's not my job to do that.

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A journalist came in here and said that.

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let's create an association, or let's do something to bring all the Greek organizations together,

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the sororities and the fraternities together, so that we can create a regional office of working together.

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The beauty of this is, I've built it, I've worked to fund it, but the community is going to help to fill it.

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and we appreciate you for joining us on here now.

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Is that all right?

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Well, we can do the, if you want, I can do that last little part over and then close it out,

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So, what, that makes me think this, do, do the rest of you guys have your phones, like on the side?

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Well, it's the alarm, probably is, but the alarm is still going to go off.

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I know what I'll do, Alex.

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I'll just shoot.

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I like that answer to it.

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But you can still catch some of that.

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What's going to go on here?

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use any of that before we get to that, just know, that's really helpful for you.

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Should I just, should I just ask that question over again?

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I think so just to keep it capsilized.

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I mean, it's okay if it, you know, it, you know, it, like I said, we're trying to hit five,

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you know, you know, that five minute mark.

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So maybe what I'll do is I just say I have, I've got time for one more.

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I'd love for you to paint a picture of kind of what goes on here.

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I'll do it that way.

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Alex, we've got time for one more.

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I just love to, we've got time for one more question.

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I just want you to paint a broad picture kind of of what really is going to go on here.

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Initially, we're going to have a lot.

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I'm struggling.

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Let me get that over.

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I didn't like the way I said that.

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When I, when I have to think about it, it gets all funky for me.

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I've got time for it.

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Don't even start it that way.

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Just start the question.

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I have to start that way.

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So paint is the picture.

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I'm getting there, Cynthia.

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Just give me, give me a second to get there.

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You got this.

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I think I can do it.

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In the next two minutes.

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So we use all those words to describe what's goes on here, but I want you to, if you can,

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just paint a real clear picture of kind of how you see what's going to happen here.

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A number of things will take place right away.

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I didn't like to answer that question.

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And I know I shouldn't have done that.

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Now we're all, now we're all into ourselves now.

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This could take days at this point.

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You want to start it?

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You want to do it?

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I'm just wondering how much of the first one can we keep?

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What would happen?

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Can it be sound?

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I shouldn't have turned.

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I could do something.

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And I think that's a question that a lot of people are wondering.

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So that's why I'm trying to answer it succinctly.

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What do you...

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We need to do it over.

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I think between the two of them, we can definitely make this work.

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The first one was good.

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No thinking involved.

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Right.

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So then maybe I just...

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Maybe I just close it out.

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Sure.

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And we'll figure out a way to get it where we need to get it.

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And if we have to use it and we hear the ringing in the back or around...

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It's okay too.

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I've got two cameras.

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I can cut the mirror.

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I like that.

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You know?

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And you'll cut out the part where I looked around.

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Yeah.

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And these have been sure it wasn't my fault.

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What's going on in there?

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I know.

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That was just a reaction.

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I know.

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Because I thought that was a countdown, so...

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No, no, no.

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There's no problem.

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I just...

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No, no.

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I just turned around because I just...

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That was being nosy.

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But if you think we can really work that out, if you're not comfortable with that though,

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I'll do it again.

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I'm leaning to you.

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I personally think we can.

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I think we can put a white flesh in there.

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We just need the closer from birth.

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Sure.

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Yes.

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So now it's back on me.

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You're the quintessential professional.

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You're right.

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I'll see you.

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We appreciate you joining us for this.

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Wait.

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That one liked that either.

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Thank you, Johnny.

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Okay, I got it.

291
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Okay.

292
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All right, Alex, a lot.

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I won't make any faces.

294
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Please don't.

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And Cynthia, leave me alone.

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I can feel it.

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I can just feel it.

298
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I can feel it.

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I can feel it.

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You're doing your thing over there.

301
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Yes, sir.

302
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All right, Dr. Alex, she will have to leave it there.

303
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This conversation will be continued because there's so much more we can talk.

304
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That's way too much.

305
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Sorry.

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All right.

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I got it.

308
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I got it.

309
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You know, Baron, isn't that funny?

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Wasn't that funny?

311
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Everybody's turned.

312
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Everybody's turned on me.

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No, we got you, buddy.

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We got you.

315
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You want to ask me if there's anything else I want?

316
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No, no.

317
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PBS Clippers.

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You ready?

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I am.

320
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Because you weren't looking at me.

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Like you were ready.

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Okay.

323
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All right, Alex.

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We'll have to leave it there.

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We appreciate you joining us.

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Thank you.

327
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It's been great being here.

328
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And the full dismount.

329
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All right.

330
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Then we can do this other one.

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Let me go.