So, no, we're in the courtroom.
We were in the courtroom.
Yeah, that's right.
Did we do it with?
No, we do it in the courtroom, I think, for your prime.
Then, yeah, then we were in the library.
And then we were in the library.
Yeah, that's your right, yep.
Yeah.
It all starts to blur together sometimes.
I'm telling you about it, yeah, it's a...
We're all over the courtroom.
We're good on both.
All right, let me start this time over here for me.
All right, Eric Tony, thanks for joining us.
Great to be with you.
I appreciate the opportunity to chat about the race.
So, give me a sense of why you decided to run again.
It's not often we see candidates repeat in a...
I think I know the first question is...
Yeah.
I think it would be the preview.
I just wanted to make sure she wasn't in the meeting.
Oh.
If I was looking at you but not...
That's what I was not.
No, you're okay, right there.
No, no, no.
No, you would be in the shot then.
Yep.
That's always the thing with these mirrors.
Oh, yeah.
You're gonna triple check everything.
Yep, take two.
Excuse me.
All right.
Now we're good.
All right.
Well, Eric Tony, thanks for joining us.
It's great to be with you to talk about the Attorney General's race
and the importance of it for Wisconsin.
So, give me a sense of why you decided to run again.
It's not often we see repeat candidates
for these statewide elections.
You know, within a week of that race back in 2022,
I had so many people already encouraging me to do it
but it wasn't sure it was something that I would wanna do
because there's a lot of time and energy
that goes into these statewide races.
But for me, I really had a clarifying moment in 2023.
I was, I ended up in probably August
when I later learned to have a mini stroke in the office,
lost control of my legs for about 20 seconds
and then it just kind of went away
and I did the dumb thing and just started going
to my desk and started working for a little bit
but I had one of my colleagues that passed away
a few years before that from a cardiac issue
which inspired me to try and figure out what was wrong
because I had learned earlier in the year
over the 4th of July weekend in 23
that I had been born with a defective heart valve.
So it was a progression throughout the summer
of trying to figure out what was wrong
and you know, starting to get worse and worse
and finally got in to see my primary care doctor
after seeing others and he heard a heart murmur
on a Friday and then on that Sunday in early November,
I was impatient at the hospital here in Fond du Lac
the next day cardiologist did some testing,
came in and said your eordic valve is destroyed
and you need open heart surgery
and we're gonna try and do that next week Wednesday
which was November 15th of 2023.
So I did what I think a lot of us would do
especially I was 39 years old
and I started reflecting on my life
and just had this amazing sense of calm and peace.
Just what I get to do was the district attorney here
in Fond du Lac County where I was born and raised
where my dad was a police officer,
my grandfather started a small healthcare business
with no college degree.
I love what I get to do keeping this community safe,
working with our law enforcement together
to make our community safer and help people
live their lives and chase their dreams
and I didn't have any regret.
Wasn't wishing I had done something else
or a different career and I knew
that I had lived a life that mattered
but it also drove home how precious time is
and so I was starting to think about
what do I want to continue to do if this surgery goes well
but I was at that point just trusting God
through the hands of my medical team
that hoping and praying things would go well
and I as I got closer knew that I would want to run again
to make sure that I could take some of the great things
we've done as a team here with our local law enforcement
as well as helping lead our district attorneys association
that's delivered bipartisan public safety results
across Wisconsin and recent state budgets
to our Department of Justice and Madison
because we have seen so many challenges
on the public safety front that has law enforcement
struggling, justice being delayed for victims
that I knew I wanted to make sure my life
was going to continue to matter
that I would continue to push forward
and try and make Wisconsin better
and so that's when I knew I would want to run
but when we look at how precious time is
I had to see that we had a path to be able to win
and that was looking at the amazing team
we've been able to put together
and then the unfortunate situation we're seeing
with the forensic testing and other public safety areas
at our Department of Justice
that I knew we couldn't wait another four years
to make those changes.
Clean bill of health today?
I'm doing great, you know, after the surgery
so I was back to work part-time in about two weeks
I ran a 5K six weeks later, pretty slow
and then I did a homicide trial about eight weeks later
but even in 2024 when I got off one of the medications
I had a reaction to one of those
that made that a tough year
but by the end of the year I was doing great in 2025,
2026, I'm doing fantastic
ran my alumni cross country meet over Labor Day weekend
at St. Norbert so I'm feeling great.
So the other side of a rematch
is that the Attorney General Josh Call
decided to run again.
There was a lot of speculation he might run for governor
as a lot of two-time AGs do.
Do you have any sense of why he decided not to take
that step up to the next office?
You'd have to ask him why he chose not to do that.
I mean, certainly for someone looking at running for governor
the fundraising that we saw at the end of the year
probably didn't match that
but at the end of the day I can't speak for him.
So when we're looking at a rematch in this environment
what should voters be thinking of in terms of,
oh, how did I vote last time
or what's different about this matchup this time?
One of the things people can look at with me
is what I've done since then
as the president of the District Attorneys Association
I've always talked about putting public safety over politics.
I stood with our Attorney General
after that 2022 race helping him get more crime lab positions
in that state budget working with Republican legislators
behind the scenes.
I helped get a transformational investment
into prosecutors, public defenders
and our judicial system in that budget
that the Wisconsin Law Journal awarded me
as an unsung hero for what they described as helping
and a constitutional crisis.
Those are all things we do together
working with the Democrat governor
and the Republican legislature to deliver those results.
I've also more recently helped our Attorney General
get some internet crimes against children positions
and continue to work with our DA's Association
helping get a massive increase in prosecutors
across Wisconsin that again we had to do
in a bipartisan fashion that's helping not just make
Fondelack County safer because we were one of the bottom
five state staff DA's offices in the entire state
and that's why we received four new positions
out of that budget but we saw over 50 of them
across the entire state to help some of the areas
that needed those positions most.
And then in contrast you see during the tenure
of our Attorney General we've seen periods
of record homicides in places like Milwaukee,
record drug deaths and other increases in crime
and I've never been one to say
it's one individual person's responsibility
when that happens because there's so many different factors
that go into why crime happens in different areas
but what we have to look at is what are people doing
with the resources they have and so what we saw
our Attorney General do during this period
is put a hiring freeze in place
and so I mentioned those crime lab positions
I helped him get well over a year later
we saw a nonpartisan audit released of our crime labs
and they said he hadn't even filled those positions.
We saw that he had less DNA positions filled
compared to 2020 and we see that they're taking for DNA
for example taking on average over twice as long
to test less from when he started to where we are now
and we're seeing him delaying the release
of these crime lab reports where they've actually removed
a huge chunk of them off their website
that used to be there where it's someone trying
to hide their failure and it has devastating consequences
for victims who are having justice delayed
our court calendars and are getting more congested
making it more difficult to move these cases
through our court systems and we know when justice
is delayed it's denied for victims
even our Attorney General has said that before
but that's the direct result of his actions
and it's making it more difficult
with some of these defendants that continue
to be on our streets committing new crimes
and new victims while that original victim
waits for justice and so that's what this race
is going to be about and when we look at the results
that I've been able to do with our team
the attorneys and support staff in my office
and our amazing law enforcement here in Findallat County
I was named our 2024 District Attorney of the Year
for Wisconsin and it's a great honor
but it is a reflection of the great public safety
we see here in Findallat County with our team
with law enforcement and all the staff in my office.
So the Attorney General points to crime statistics
being down in Wisconsin as they are across the country
he also singles out that crime statistics
in Findallat County are up.
Why should either one of you get credit or blame
for crime statistics when as the, you know
either the prosecutor or the Attorney General
you don't control whether crimes are committed
or even how they're investigated.
That's a great question to ask the Attorney General
because he's been the one trying to take victory laps
when he see crime numbers go with what he thinks
is in his favor despite cherry picking what those stats are
I don't think anybody heard from him
when we were seeing record homicides in Milwaukee
but now because we're seeing crime down in many areas
including Findallat County crime is down overall
and I've never taken credit for the crime numbers
we've seen during my almost 14 years as a district attorney
because I know it's a team effort when we do these things
and crime doesn't stop at county lines
our police chief here in Findallat
has certainly talked about the challenges
that they've seen with domestic violence
and like I said before it's what do you do
with your resources when you see challenges with crime?
Well from when I took over as district attorney
we're filing nearly twice as many felonies
and we're filing over twice as many domestic violence cases
so we're responding to what we're seeing in our community
working with our law enforcement to communicate that
and our Attorney General certainly hasn't reached out
to us here in Findallat County
I mean I just saw recently Senator Baldwin did a ride along
with our police department I'd encourage Josh Call
to pick up the phone or come to Fond du Lac
and meet with our police chief and our sheriff
to learn what's happening in our community
there's a reason being that Josh Call and I
are both from Fond du Lac
the people that know us best
all of our police chiefs and sheriff here in Fond du Lac County
have endorsed me because of the results they've seen us do
as a team here in Fond du Lac County
and the public safety failures we've seen from Josh Call
and it's that record that we have as a team
and what we've been able to do as a team
for more public safety results across Wisconsin
that even has a bipartisan group of sheriffs
and district attorneys as Republicans, Democrats
and independent sheriffs from across Wisconsin
75% of them that have endorsed me
that want to see a change at our Department of Justice
that don't believe we can afford another four years
of these delays that we've seen at our crime labs
with an Attorney General that just continues
to pass the buck and blame others
despite having received more resources
to our crime labs than his predecessor
and while the Attorney General is out trying
to take a victory lap and own crime stats
that would mean he would own the over 30% increase
in homicides that have happened on his watch
but unlike him I don't assign blame to one individual
when we see those type of things
it all comes back to what do you do with your resources
to help fight crime and we've seen him
not use those resources.
When we look at Attorney General's races in the past
historically they followed right below
the gubernatorial election.
The last time there were members of different parties
in 2006 to win these races.
So are you trying to separate yourself
from Tom Tiffany and his race for governor
or do you think you're gonna follow right along with him?
I'm running my own race from when I got into this back
in October of 2025 I talked about the forensic testing
failures, the fentanyl epidemic
and how partisan our Attorney General has become.
I mean we have driven home issues that affect people
in all 72 counties and that's what I've been focused on
is what our Department of Justice can do
to help protect everybody in Wisconsin
by putting public safety over politics.
When we look at the fentanyl epidemic
we have seen across our state in so many different counties.
Surges in these fentanyl overdose deaths
and I've sat across from too many moms and dads
that have buried their child in Fond du Lac County
has been a leader in filing those homicide cases
in recent years and we heard earlier this year
at the state of the tribes address from the Cole Boyd.
She said our Attorney General had eliminated
drug investigator positions for part of the state
and that that was unnecessarily costing lives.
Again, it all comes back to what do you do
with the resources you have?
And so what we're seeing is broken promise
after broken promise from our Attorney General.
He campaigned on the fentanyl in opioid epidemic
and there is accountability for pharmaceutical manufacturers
but talk to anybody in law enforcement or public safety
and they will tell you the overdoses that we're seeing
by and large are coming from fentanyl
which is coming across the border
and then here into Wisconsin
and parents are burying their child
and our Attorney General's broken that promise.
He won't even talk about that issue
because it doesn't maybe be popular with his liberal base.
We look at the forensic testing.
He actually promised back in 2020
that we were gonna see a dramatic improvement
in DNA testing because he had more analysts
than his predecessor and he had improved technology
and his own policies were the reason
that they were testing less,
limiting what law enforcement can send in
and now on average he's taking over twice as long
and he campaigned against all of the political lawsuits
when he first ran and now that's effectively
what he's running his entire campaign on
is those lawsuits where he's putting politics
over public safety.
Well let's talk about those lawsuits.
Obviously the Department of Justice has filed
and joined a lot of these federal lawsuits
against the Trump administration.
If you were the AG, would you have joined any of these?
So one of the things I've always talked about
is putting public safety over politics
and when we see the Attorney General,
he's not filing lawsuits.
What he's doing is called joining them.
So the vast majority of those lawsuits,
whether he signs on to that or not,
are gonna continue to move forward
because other attorneys general across the country
have actually done the legal work on those.
And so what I will be doing as attorney general
is making sure we are prioritizing our resources
for public safety, ending the hiring freeze
that's been put in place by him
to make sure we have those crime lab positions filled
that we're always filling our DCI
and other public safety positions
and we'll evaluate any case that's been filed
on a case by case basis
to make sure that we're following the facts in the law
because one of the things we hear,
whether you talk to law enforcement,
the business community or others,
having that consistency in the law
and that predictability helps people plan for the future,
not just having those type of decisions driven
by someone's own partisan politics.
That makes it very difficult for our business community
to move forward and thrive.
And we've seen our Attorney General continue
to put his partisan politics over public safety.
I mean, we see the struggle that people have
in some parts of our state in every corner of it
with the rising cost that we've seen
that were kicked off under the Biden administration
with that rampant inflation.
And some families, parents are working two jobs,
trying to put food on the table
and our Attorney General has not helped.
He actually was the one that defended
that 400 year property tax increase
all the way to the Wisconsin Supreme Court
where he could have been the voice of reason
giving our court that legal framework to say this is wrong,
this is unconstitutional.
One person cannot raise our taxes for 400 years,
but he fought all the way to the court defending that
that contributed to people's property taxes
going up for 400 years.
So I just want to, one more question on the federal lawsuits.
In some of those cases, if you weren't a member of those,
you didn't get the benefits.
And Wisconsin has seen some of those benefits
from being a part of those winning cases.
As AG, would you have joined any of those cases?
So one of the things that we have to do
at our Department of Justice,
can't be who's in the White House
or who's in the governor's office.
We have to look at these on a case-by-case basis.
And unfortunately, we haven't seen our Attorney General
do that.
He's talked about joining over 60 of these lawsuits
in the last 18 months or so,
compared to probably five or less
during the four years of the Biden administration
and has effectively given a free pass to Tony Yever.
So to me, it's not gonna matter who's in the White House
or who's in the governor's office.
We're gonna make these decisions based on the facts
and the law.
So I would expect, whether it's a Republican
or Democrat governor president,
that we would be joining lawsuits
when it's needed to protect Wisconsin.
But this just, you know, to really show how partisan
our Attorney General has gotten.
When he first ran, he talked about two criteria
for filing or joining a federal lawsuit.
Number one, it had to harm Wisconsin.
And then number two, he said it had to be unconstitutional.
Well, last year, he changed that second criteria
and just said he needed a legal basis for it.
And that just shows how partisan he's become
putting his personal politics
over our public safety here in Wisconsin.
And so for me as Attorney General,
it's gonna be putting public safety over politics,
making sure those resources are first and foremost,
going to keep families and community members safe
across our entire state.
And that's why I've got that bipartisan support
from 75% of our sheriffs and know it's time for a change.
How do you view the role of the Wisconsin DOJ
when it comes to election, integrity and security?
And specifically, one of the most recent lawsuits
having to do with the United States Postal Service
changes over absentee ballots.
That is a lawsuit that Josh Call has had Wisconsin join.
Would you have Wisconsin join that lawsuit
or would you be okay if those postal service rules
were in effect?
So our Department of Justice is crucial
in defending the integrity of our elections.
And we have to get to a point where people
trust the results of our elections,
not just when the person they voted for wins.
And we've seen time after time where that hasn't happened.
And I voted absentee in a number of times in recent years.
There are times where for a spring election,
I've been on vacation or even for the,
I live in a township and the early voting opportunities
are far lower there.
So I think I get a couple days for about an hour or so
during that two week window compared to somebody
that may live in a city that has much more
expansive early voting windows.
So early voting, absentee voting is a crucial part
of Wisconsin and we have to protect the right to do that
for people in Wisconsin.
So yes or no, would you have Wisconsin be a part of this case
against the postal service rules?
So what I can say is I would be defending the ability
for people to vote early.
And one of the things I've been very careful on,
I rarely comment on the different lawsuits
that are out there because I wanna make sure
we're working with the great attorneys that we have
at our Department of Justice,
making these decisions based on the facts and the law.
And if in that conversation,
we believe that that's unconstitutional.
I would absolutely join a lawsuit like that
to make sure that we're protecting people's rights
to vote early here in Wisconsin.
But I think one of the things that's so important
when we have an attorney general that's gonna make decisions
on criminal cases, on civil cases,
that we're not campaigning on a specific issue to say,
this is exactly what we're gonna do in that type of lawsuit.
But make sure we're making those decisions
based on the facts and the law.
Because one thing I talk to people about
all across Wisconsin is as an attorney general,
I will make decisions they will not like,
but it's gonna be based on the facts and the law.
And if I don't like that decision,
I'm gonna work with the legislature
and the governor to change the law.
So if elected, you'd be part of the
Republican Attorney General's Association.
Why haven't we seen Republican Attorney Generals
from around the country join in any of these lawsuits?
Why have it been almost universally democratic
attorney generals?
You'd have to talk to them.
I can't speak for other attorneys general in the country.
So you talked about the crime lab,
and talked about the turnaround time.
Josh Colle says that he has secured this money
and he's used that for fentanyl harm reduction
that that money has gotten out.
He claims that's his response to the fentanyl situation.
As attorney general, he can't go to the border
and stop fentanyl from coming over.
So what would be different with you as attorney general?
Number one, when we wanna address a problem,
we have to be honest about what the problem is.
If you were to look at our Department of Justice website,
there's nothing on there about the border crisis
and fentanyl coming across the border.
And we heard Nicole Boyd talk about
how he's eliminated drug investigator positions
here in Wisconsin.
One of the important things that we can do
from the public safety side is go after those dangerous
drug dealers that are peddling poison
in our communities.
And as we see, and it's wonderful
that we're seeing across the country,
these overdose deaths going down,
go and talk to a mom or dad
that had to bury their child in recent years.
And for the attorney general to sit there
and try and take a victory lap over that,
while these cases are still moving
through a congested courts across our state
as he's eliminated resources to help fight that
and failed to deliver the forensic test results
in so many of these different categories
that are making it longer to take criminals off the streets
longer for these cases to go through our court system
that victims are the one that's suffering.
And as I've said, time after time,
it goes back to what do you do with the resources you have
and what Josh Call continues to do.
And it's been for nearly eight years has passed the buck.
He continues to blame the legislature
and say they need to give him more crime lab resources.
They have, he got more DNA positions, more ballistics
and some other positions in the 2019 budget.
I helped him get more positions in 2023 in that budget.
And then when we see that nonpartisan audit come out
and he hasn't even filled those positions,
some of them over a year later, they hadn't been filled.
We saw seven less DNA positions.
So what we need to be doing at our crime labs is number one
and the hiring freeze that he's put in place.
Number two, adopt some of the performance metrics
that that audit recommended our Department of Justice
do to ensure timely testing of DNA results
and make sure that we eliminate any work
from home policies that don't allow those great analysts
to be in the labs doing that important work.
I've worked with so many of the analysts at our crime labs
and they do tremendous work in helping protect our communities
but we need to make sure they have the support
from the Attorney General.
One of the issues that Josh Call says is interesting
about this rematch is looking at some
of your position statements from the last race
and he brings up abortion specifically.
At that time he had filed a lawsuit
that eventually was passed by the Wisconsin Supreme Court
which guaranteed the right to abortion in Wisconsin.
At that time you criticized his part of that lawsuit.
Do you still think that was the wrong choice for him
for the state to file that lawsuit
against the 1848 abortion law?
Well, the original Dane County judge actually didn't support
the ultimate legal finding that was made by the Supreme Court
but we have to look at where the law is now
and there are five month protections in place for women.
I have not and I'm not advocating for any changes
to the law in Wisconsin and if there is going to be any change
that's something that needs to be voted on
by the people of Wisconsin and not decided
on by politicians in Madison.
We need to create an environment
that supports women and girls in our state in every corner
and you look at what our Attorney General's comments
have been in recent years on this.
He was actually asked about those five month
or 20 week protections in 2024 in the fall
and he said it's not a protection, it's a restriction.
He said there should be no government intervention
calling for the legislature to take action,
effectively arguing for a nine month abortion
here in Wisconsin.
We need an Attorney General that's actually
gonna support women and girls here in Wisconsin.
That includes protecting their private spaces,
their bathrooms, their locker rooms and their sports
and we've got a situation that's been going on
in New Richmond, Wisconsin where the school district
has allowed biological boys into girls' bathrooms
and if we need an Attorney General
that's gonna step up and do that
and that's what I would do as Attorney General
is make sure that we're protecting and supporting women
and girls, their bathrooms, their private spaces,
locker rooms and sports.
Do you think abortion should be an issue in this race?
I've said it's something that the people should vote on.
Josh Call thinks the legislature should be making
these decisions and is effectively advocated for nine months.
I'll tell you, one of the things in a district
attorney's office, we had here in Fondelac,
a case in recent years where a young girl under
I believe 15 had been sexually assaulted
and the defendant was I think about 19 years old
and so there was a number of years of age gap there
and she ended up with her family
making that difficult decision to have an abortion
just a few months before that Dobbs decision came out
and one of the things having had conversations
with her family myself and I don't think
any district attorney wants to be in a situation
where we're telling a young girl or a woman
what they can or can't do with the difficulty
of those choices, what I'd like to see us doing
is creating an environment that supports life,
making sure that women and girls have the resources
that life is the choice they wanna make
when it can be difficult in so many different
circumstances but we need an attorney general
that's actually gonna stand with and support them
and when we see our attorney general continue
to fail to do that and supporting women and girls,
sports, bathrooms and locker rooms,
that's something that we need to change.
Do you see any role for the attorney general
in the issue of data centers in Wisconsin?
I think it's gonna depend on an individual basis,
you know, I've visited all 72 counties in the selection
and I've heard a lot of things from people
but I've yet to meet the person that wants a power line
or a data center in their backyard
and that's something we're clearly gonna need
to see legislative and gubernatorial action
on here in Wisconsin.
What the attorney general can do is make sure
that we're protecting our natural resources
and our power grid to make sure that if we see data centers
coming into Wisconsin, that it's not jacking up
the utility rates for people or being a threat
to our natural resources, the attorney general's office
has to make sure we're guarding our natural resources
including our water.
There was also recently an officer involved shooting
in Madison and then a protest is only set up downtown.
You went through that area and you called
for the Department of Justice to come in and clear it out.
The DOJ was already involved with the officer involved
shooting investigation.
Would it be appropriate for another arm or the DOJ
to be coming in and handling the protesters as well
or should that be left to local officials?
Well, one of the things we saw, you know,
I walked through that area,
you couldn't get emergency service vehicles
through the area, business owners couldn't open
for a period, employees couldn't get to their job
and residents couldn't get to their homes in that area.
And that was going on day after day after day.
We saw a report, one of those businesses
reportedly lost, I think, over $100,000.
And so that's where we have statutes on the books right now
where a chamber of the legislature or governor
can give our attorney general authority
to prosecute crime in certain circumstances.
And so that's what I've said,
that that should have happened to make sure
that we work with the governor's office
and the attorney general with the state patrol
and our DCI agents to have declared
an unlawful assembly ordered the individuals dispersed
and that anyone that failed to follow that
would be arrested and prosecuted ultimately.
Our attorney general sat on the sidelines
during that difficult time for so many people
in the Madison area when we need to make sure
that we're protecting people,
that we're not allowing intersections to be taken over.
People have an absolute right to protest
but there are ways to do it
and it doesn't give someone the right to take over
an intersection and on my watch as attorney general,
I will do everything I can to make sure
that doesn't happen anywhere in Wisconsin.
But this has just been a troubling pattern
for our attorney general and some of these
very critical incidents.
He continues to fail the leadership test.
We saw that happen in Madison.
We saw it in the wake of the Kenosha shooting
back in 2020 involving Jacob Blake
which was determined to be a justified shooting.
We saw the governor putting out false
and incorrect information that Josh called new Jacob Blake
had to have had a knife that very night
and he said nothing.
And we saw the consequences of those reckless statements
where people burned Kenosha,
there was a loss of life we need an attorney general
that's gonna be willing to push back against
their own party when necessary
especially in those circumstances.
And there's a reason that we're seeing
law enforcement across the state
that do not want to work with Josh Call
in doing these officer involved shooting investigations.
The DCI agents do a fantastic job
but they don't trust him from what they've seen
in these circumstances.
And that's something that we're gonna have to work
to rebuild that trust to be able to continue to assist.
There are still agencies that use our Department of Justice
but there are many that will choose not to
based on what they're seeing.
And so what we have to do is rebuild trust
with our law enforcement agencies.
We have to make sure that we're getting
some of that key evidence to our district attorney sooner
to be able to make timely decisions
while protecting the integrity of the investigation
while having transparency to the public.
What we're seeing is about a 30 day window
before a DA will get sometimes any of the evidence
to review and then they have to go through that mountain
of evidence to make a decision
where the public is waiting for the result.
You've got an officer or officers on administrative leave.
The impact that that can have on small agencies
can be tremendous.
And one of the things I worked on more recently
when we had one here in Fond du Lac County
was getting some of that key evidence to my office sooner
so that I could have eyes on that to begin my review
to help make that decision on whether that shooting
was justified or not.
And so what we're gonna be working to do
is change some of the policies
but working with our law enforcement partners
on what that should be to ensure and our DA's
to make sure they're getting that information quicker
and that we're getting information to the public sooner.
The liberals on the Supreme Court now have a five
to majority.
Would that change how you approach any lawsuits
over state law, how you would change arguments
before the court?
The facts are the facts and the law is the law
and we'll make decisions based on those things
not who the judge is.
And finally, one quick question on flock cameras.
That's the new issue.
Would you see any role for the Attorney General's office
to weigh in on how flock cameras should be used?
Or is that an issue for the legislature?
Well, here in Fond du Lac County,
all of our police agencies that use flock
just recently discontinued that use
and based on my conversations with my local law enforcement,
I support the decision that they've made
because what we've seen is in some other states,
they've released information that contains searches
here in Fond du Lac County
that have had an ability to impact active investigations,
potentially release victim information
and impact the privacy of people in our community
and across Wisconsin.
So it's clear that additional action and guardrails
are needed to make sure that we're protecting
active investigations, victim privacy,
as well as the privacy of community members
here in Wisconsin.
But that doesn't harm investigators,
doesn't limit the ability, is it in flock a tool for them?
That was a decision that the law enforcement made.
There's nobody that told them that they could not use that.
They had a concern about the impact
that that would have on their investigations.
And so they made the decision right now
to discontinue that use and continue
to work through that issue.
We've certainly seen, I've prosecuted cases,
homicides and others where flock
has taken dangerous criminals off the streets
and has helped find missing or endangered children
and adults.
And so we've seen that aid law enforcement
across the state.
But when we see that type of,
at some point, misuse that's occurred
and in other areas, privacy information
or ongoing investigation information released,
there's a balance and we have to make sure
that we're seeing additional action
and guardrails to protect those things.
Eric, Tony, thanks for your time.
Greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
That was great.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.