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Well, give me your perspective on the Supreme Court's ruling on the Postal Service Rules

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and also the fact that when we talked to Eric Tony, he really wouldn't commit to whether

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he would have...

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Sorry.

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I don't know.

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What is wrong with this?

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Sorry.

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I'd switch a new battery.

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Okay.

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Hopefully it's fine with light.

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Yeah.

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It must be the light.

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Should we just do it without it?

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All right.

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Let me just give you one second.

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Let's adjust the light a little bit here.

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There you go.

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Good?

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All right.

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So you heard the question, but give me your reaction to all of that.

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Yeah.

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Well, first, it was great to see the Supreme Court's ruling.

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It was clear that this would have thrown the midterm election into chaos.

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And so this was a reckless effort by the Trump administration that would have undermined

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our fundamental right to vote.

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So this is a big win for voting rights, and I'm proud of my administration's record of

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fighting for the voting rights of Wisconsinites.

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I think it's totally unacceptable for somebody who wants to be the Attorney General of the

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state, not to be willing to weigh in on this critical issue before Wisconsin voters.

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And to me, this is just another example of Eric Tony's unwillingness to stand up to

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Donald Trump.

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For me, it's about putting the rights of Wisconsinites at the forefront.

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And apparently for Eric Tony, he's unwilling to stand up to Donald Trump, even when voting

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rights are at stake.

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I think we need an attorney general who's going to fight for us.

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Is that a perspective on the larger Republican Attorney General's Association or just the

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Republican Party, or why would you think that he wouldn't be willing on this one to

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at least make that stand?

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Well, I'm not aware of any case that we have brought against the Trump administration,

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where Eric Tony has been willing to say that he would have joined that case, and that

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impacts significant amounts of funding for the state, it impacts important programs.

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And unfortunately, what we've seen from a Republican age use around the country is an

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unwillingness to stand up to Donald Trump.

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And in this case, in fact, some of them supported this effort, but notably some Republican

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secretaries of state made clear that this would have caused chaos.

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And so unfortunately, a lot of folks in politics just have not been willing to stand

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up to the president, and we can't have a yes man for Donald Trump in the AG's office.

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We need somebody who's going to stand up for the rights of Wisconsinites.

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We have seen since our interview with you some states start to sue the federal government

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talking about whether DHS would be at polls or ICE would be at polls.

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Is there a lawsuit that could be coming from either clerks in Wisconsin or the state about

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those issues?

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Well, we're going to remain vigilant about protecting our elections.

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It's critical that every eligible Wisconsinite is able to freely and fairly cast about in

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a way that's safe.

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And if there is an effort to inhibit people's ability to cast about at the polls, we're

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going to be prepared to fight back against that.

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I am confident that we will, again, have safe and secure elections.

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And one of the concerns, I think, with some of the attacks on our elections we've seen

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is that people are trying to create fear and confusion.

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What's important for Wisconsinites to know is to get out there and vote, and we're going

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to fight to make sure that people's rights are protected.

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And what other issue has popped up in just recent weeks become a big issue is block cameras.

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It seems like it's only recently been that law enforcement has realized who all can access

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these.

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So how rapidly have things been changing in terms of what these cameras do and who all

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can get access to them?

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Well, there's clearly been a lot of public discourse on this just recently.

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What I think is important is that we have public discussion about this.

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I think it's important to have strong guardrails in place that ensure that people's privacy

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is protected.

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I don't want to live in a society where we have dragnet surveillance.

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But at the same time, I want there to be appropriate law enforcement uses protected.

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And so if you have a case where you've got a missing child or a senior who's missing

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and a silver alert is issued or a homicide suspect who you can find out where they went

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after a murder was committed, we want to make sure we're protecting those uses and making

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sure that we're protecting safety while also doing it in a way that's not going to lead

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to infringement on people's basic privacy expectations.

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Do you think this is a legislative fix or can it be a rule or a legal arrangement with

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the company itself?

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What needs to happen?

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I think we should have a legislative fix.

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I think there should be consistent rules in Wisconsin.

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So if you drive from one city to another, you don't have radically different rules in

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place.

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In the meantime, I think it's important for agencies to have good safeguards.

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At the Department of Justice, if we access this data, first, there's a limited number

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of people who can access it.

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They're within a particular part of our division of criminal investigation.

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It needs to be associated with a particular case.

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And we have regular auditing of the process.

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Those kinds of guardrails can help ensure that the system is used appropriately, and

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it's not misused to infringe on people's privacy.

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The fact that the opposition and the concerns over this seems to be bipartisan, maybe not

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always for the same reason, but widespread.

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Does that make it easier to help solve a problem that may not get mired down in the partisan

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issues?

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I'm hopeful we'll see the legislature take action in the next session on this issue.

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There are a lot of nuances to this, and I think having a public discussion with involvement

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from the public so people can weigh in and make sure their voices are heard is important

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for this technology that's become widespread fairly quickly.

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And so my hope is that we will see a constructive dialogue around this, and that we'll be able

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to put sensible guardrails in place moving forward.