WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.440 Well, Congressman Tiffany, thanks for joining us. 00:05.440 --> 00:07.280 Good to join us, Zach. 00:07.280 --> 00:10.760 So immediately after the primary, a lot of the attention on the race seem to be focused 00:10.760 --> 00:11.760 on data centers. 00:11.760 --> 00:16.440 But in the last few weeks, it seems like it's shifted to traditional topics of taxes and 00:16.440 --> 00:17.800 spending and crime. 00:17.800 --> 00:21.280 Do you think that'll be the standard issue that this election has decided on? 00:21.280 --> 00:23.960 Yeah, I think it's those quality of life issues. 00:23.960 --> 00:28.160 I mean, what we talk about all the time is affordability, accountability and common sense. 00:28.560 --> 00:30.760 That's the message that we're delivering out there. 00:30.760 --> 00:32.800 But it is very much economic. 00:32.800 --> 00:34.360 It's kitchen table issues. 00:34.360 --> 00:36.240 I mean, people see their budgets there. 00:36.240 --> 00:40.360 They're really stretched thin at this point and that's their concern. 00:40.360 --> 00:44.080 And I hear it from all the people that are out knocking doors for us. 00:44.080 --> 00:48.600 They're like, it's economic kitchen table issues is what people are talking about. 00:48.600 --> 00:52.320 Now, there's two different definitions of affordability that the parties have. 00:52.320 --> 00:55.680 Obviously, you're talking about taxing and spending and the budget. 00:55.720 --> 01:01.440 And Democrats are talking about national tariffs and rising prices or gas prices. 01:01.440 --> 01:03.120 Which do you think impacts people more? 01:03.120 --> 01:05.360 Oh, I think they both do. 01:05.360 --> 01:07.920 And gas prices are too high. 01:07.920 --> 01:10.040 And those are largely set on world markets. 01:10.040 --> 01:13.800 The thing that I've been focused on is what can I do as governor? 01:13.800 --> 01:17.520 Because you can flail on issues that you don't have any impact on. 01:17.520 --> 01:20.960 I think it's very important to have a governor that is going to be focused on the issues 01:20.960 --> 01:23.120 that you can help people out with. 01:23.360 --> 01:26.560 So if we're going to put more money in people's pockets, that's why I've been talking about 01:26.560 --> 01:27.840 let's reduce taxes. 01:27.840 --> 01:33.040 And the 400 year property tax increase, the $3 billion budget surplus that we have, 01:33.040 --> 01:37.440 we should return every penny of it to the taxpayers so they have more money in their pockets. 01:37.440 --> 01:42.960 We're going to do a 10% income tax cut for those making $150,000 and less. 01:42.960 --> 01:44.720 And no taxes on tips and overtime. 01:44.720 --> 01:46.000 Just like we did federally. 01:46.000 --> 01:48.080 I mean, I had a guy from Marshfield just contact me. 01:48.960 --> 01:51.120 I was at an event and he came up to me and he said, 01:51.120 --> 01:58.720 I took home $1,100 more last year during tax filing season as a result of no taxes on overtime. 01:58.720 --> 02:01.200 He works about 10 hours of overtime every week. 02:01.200 --> 02:03.520 And so we're going to do that at the state level also. 02:04.080 --> 02:08.000 We need to make life more affordable and how we can do it here in Wisconsin 02:08.000 --> 02:10.080 is put more money in people's pockets. 02:10.080 --> 02:13.280 Earlier this year you had a tweet where you're in front of the gas station pumps and you've 02:13.280 --> 02:15.040 promises made, promises kept. 02:15.040 --> 02:17.600 Obviously prices have gone up significantly since then. 02:17.600 --> 02:21.200 Do you regret that tweet or is it just outside of your ability to control water? 02:21.200 --> 02:24.800 It's outside of our control and at that time, boy, what was it like 02:24.800 --> 02:26.720 $2.35 or something like that? 02:26.720 --> 02:28.480 So gas prices had gone down. 02:28.480 --> 02:33.040 They went up as a result of the instability in the Middle East and Iran 02:33.040 --> 02:37.920 and with the Revolutionary Guard plinking a ship every now and then in the 02:37.920 --> 02:40.080 Straits of Hormuz to keep gas prices up. 02:40.960 --> 02:46.640 And so it's really important that we have more energy that is being produced. 02:46.640 --> 02:50.320 And that's the thing that I've been focused on both state and federally 02:50.320 --> 02:53.040 is we have to be energy independent here in America. 02:53.040 --> 02:54.640 So what can a governor do? 02:54.640 --> 02:59.040 A governor can deal with the energy issue in regards to our utilities. 02:59.040 --> 03:04.800 We've seen over $2 billion of increases in utility rates here over the last eight years. 03:04.800 --> 03:08.480 The Public Service Commission here in Wisconsin is just acted as a rubber stamp 03:08.480 --> 03:10.160 for the utility rate increases. 03:10.160 --> 03:16.240 I will not do that and we can help make life more affordable for Wisconsinites 03:16.320 --> 03:21.840 by not raising those utility rates and getting back to keeping our base load 03:21.840 --> 03:25.440 sources of power and I think it's time to embrace the new nuclear technologies 03:25.440 --> 03:26.960 so that we can make that affordable. 03:26.960 --> 03:31.200 We also have what many people don't realize is we've got a refinery here in Wisconsin. 03:31.200 --> 03:35.520 It was rebuilt over the last eight years up in Superior and they have the capacity to 03:35.520 --> 03:36.000 expand. 03:36.000 --> 03:38.560 They could produce more gasoline and diesel fuel there. 03:38.560 --> 03:42.640 I think we should be talking to that company if they would consider expanding in Wisconsin. 03:42.640 --> 03:45.920 Let's produce it here in Wisconsin and let's look to the long term 03:45.920 --> 03:47.920 to bring down these energy prices. 03:47.920 --> 03:51.760 Democrats would point to your role in Congress as oversight 03:51.760 --> 03:57.280 and control the budget over Donald Trump and tariffs and initiating the war in Iran. 03:57.280 --> 04:01.760 What do you have to say to respond about your role in Congress in that area? 04:01.760 --> 04:06.240 Yes, so if you take a look at the bill that we passed last year, 04:07.280 --> 04:11.360 no taxes on tips and overtime as well as Social Security taxes, 04:11.360 --> 04:15.040 we eliminated them for almost everyone that's on Social Security. 04:15.040 --> 04:17.680 We've put more money into people's pockets. 04:17.680 --> 04:22.720 I would also say that by securing the border, hopefully we're going to see 04:22.720 --> 04:27.840 the price of housing come down in some places because remember when 10 million people came in 04:27.840 --> 04:33.840 over the four years of President Biden, that drove up the cost of housing because they had 04:33.840 --> 04:35.440 to live somewhere. 04:35.440 --> 04:42.240 So those things are really important that we deal with them but I'm focused now on what I can do 04:42.240 --> 04:46.880 as a governor and that is reducing costs for Wisconsinites. 04:47.760 --> 04:50.480 As governor, you may have to deal with the trade war with Canada. 04:50.480 --> 04:55.040 President Trump has initiated more tariffs and Canada has responded including on motorcycles 04:55.040 --> 04:59.280 and cheese that directly affects our state and including areas that you represent in Congress 04:59.280 --> 05:01.600 and in your past life in the legislature. 05:01.600 --> 05:06.000 What does it mean for people when we may not be able to export to our closest neighbor? 05:06.000 --> 05:13.280 Well, Canada has made it clear that they're being very targeted in how they're implementing 05:13.280 --> 05:14.240 their tariffs. 05:14.240 --> 05:19.680 They're clearly trying to hit Wisconsin and when you put a tariff on Harley-Davidson, 05:19.680 --> 05:21.680 it's clear what you're trying to do. 05:21.680 --> 05:25.760 Remember, Harley-Davidson just announced in the last month or so 05:25.760 --> 05:29.920 they're bringing production back here to America and that means in Wisconsin, 05:29.920 --> 05:35.280 including in my backyard up in Tomahawk where they're talking about bringing jobs back to Wisconsin. 05:36.000 --> 05:41.440 It was time that someone stood up to this whole notion of free trade 05:41.440 --> 05:45.200 and these countries taking advantage of us and Canada has done that. 05:45.200 --> 05:46.480 Look at their dairy tariffs. 05:46.480 --> 05:48.000 They're as high as 300%. 05:48.880 --> 05:53.840 Why don't they reduce their tariffs to help our dairy farmers here in Wisconsin? 05:53.840 --> 05:59.200 So what I hope happens is that let's sit down and negotiate an agreement with our neighbor 05:59.200 --> 06:02.080 to the north because we do a lot of trade with them. 06:02.080 --> 06:06.800 Let's get some agreements with them to be able to get to a better place. 06:06.800 --> 06:11.840 But do you support Donald Trump initiating this latest round of tariff battles with Canada? 06:11.840 --> 06:13.360 Like right as the election's going on? 06:13.360 --> 06:18.160 Oh, I think the Prime Minister of Canada had as much to do with this as anything. 06:18.160 --> 06:23.200 I mean, what we're seeing at this point is he's actually cozying up to China in some ways 06:23.200 --> 06:30.000 and he's allowing Canada to be a pass through from China for some of their goods. 06:30.960 --> 06:36.000 I mean, let's have both parties sit down and let's negotiate an agreement 06:36.000 --> 06:37.520 and get things to a better place. 06:37.520 --> 06:39.840 And I believe that we can make that happen. 06:39.840 --> 06:42.960 One of the issues your campaign has brought up about David Crawley's record 06:42.960 --> 06:45.440 as Milwaukee County Executive has to do with crime, 06:45.440 --> 06:48.880 but crime statistics nationwide and in Wisconsin are down. 06:49.440 --> 06:54.560 Is Milwaukee County a much different place than it was when say Scott Walker was County Executive? 06:54.560 --> 06:59.920 So you look at the last year and a half violent crime has went down significantly here in America. 06:59.920 --> 07:03.360 I mean, I think about Washington DC having spent some time out there 07:04.000 --> 07:05.360 serving in Congress. 07:05.360 --> 07:10.480 The streets are much safer and that's because of the actions that have been taken by the 07:10.480 --> 07:12.960 administration to make sure that they're safe. 07:12.960 --> 07:14.880 And to me, it sends a clear message. 07:16.000 --> 07:22.480 We've accepted crime here in America and in Wisconsin over the last few decades, I believe. 07:22.480 --> 07:27.440 And we don't need to accept these high crime levels as we're seeing them come down now. 07:27.440 --> 07:28.880 And that's what I'll do as governor. 07:28.880 --> 07:30.560 We're not going to accept crime. 07:30.560 --> 07:34.320 We're not going to take the side, like David Crawley, my opponent does, 07:34.320 --> 07:36.480 of the perpetrators of crime. 07:36.480 --> 07:39.040 We're going to look out for the victims of crime. 07:39.040 --> 07:42.000 Let's make sure that we have safe streets in Wisconsin. 07:42.000 --> 07:43.920 That means prosecutors need to prosecute. 07:44.640 --> 07:46.640 And that means no sanctuary cities. 07:46.640 --> 07:50.800 We need to make sure that Wisconsin is a safe place for people to live. 07:50.800 --> 07:54.560 It doesn't matter whether you're in Madison, Milwaukee or in Monocua. 07:54.560 --> 07:58.800 You should be able to expect that you can walk down the streets of a city in Wisconsin 07:58.800 --> 08:00.480 and it's going to be safe. 08:00.480 --> 08:04.640 And I mean, you look at David Crawley's record as we highlighted today, 08:05.920 --> 08:10.000 he is not making sure that the streets of Milwaukee County are safe. 08:10.000 --> 08:13.120 I mean, what's going to happen to Wisconsin if he becomes governor? 08:13.120 --> 08:17.280 How much responsibility should the chief executive, either a county or a state 08:17.280 --> 08:22.160 take when it comes to individual actions committed by individuals? 08:22.160 --> 08:27.760 Well, if you listened to Judge Barrowski last week in Milwaukee County, he talked about 08:27.840 --> 08:33.920 how it's preposterous that this happened, that a violent criminal was able to reach out to his 08:33.920 --> 08:40.320 victim and communicate with him 1500 times via the tablet he was given by Milwaukee County. 08:40.880 --> 08:46.400 That was signed off in 2022 by David Crawley that they get a free tablet. 08:46.400 --> 08:53.680 He renewed that once again in 2025, including after what we found out in May of this year 08:53.760 --> 09:00.000 that there were violent criminals reaching out to their victims and messaging them 1500 times, 09:00.000 --> 09:03.040 that should have been the warning signal to the county executive. 09:03.040 --> 09:04.880 We got to take another look at that. 09:04.880 --> 09:06.320 What happens in the meantime? 09:06.320 --> 09:10.640 Now we find out a triple murderer is trying to intimidate witnesses. 09:11.360 --> 09:16.480 So a county executive or the governor has a great deal to do with safety. 09:16.480 --> 09:21.280 And I think the big thing that the governor can do in Wisconsin is set the message that 09:21.280 --> 09:24.320 we're going to back up law enforcement. We're going to support them. 09:24.320 --> 09:27.280 We're going to make sure that we have safe streets here in Wisconsin. 09:27.280 --> 09:31.440 Well, let's talk about flock cameras for a second then because that's another issue that's come up. 09:31.440 --> 09:38.400 As this technology has changed so rapidly and the opinions of political leaders or even law 09:38.400 --> 09:42.720 enforcement can change that rapidly. Is it fair to hold a position that someone might have taken 09:42.720 --> 09:47.360 two years ago against them when even law enforcement is now saying, yeah, flock's not being used the 09:47.360 --> 09:48.720 right way. We need to rein that in. 09:49.520 --> 09:51.280 So clarify your question if you would. 09:51.280 --> 09:56.320 I guess I'm saying you've attacked David Crowley for supporting some of the flock cameras in Milwaukee 09:56.320 --> 10:02.640 County or your allies have attacked him for having those. And at the same time, it's now law enforcement 10:02.640 --> 10:06.560 that's saying we need to rein this in. This isn't about political leadership. It was about the system 10:06.560 --> 10:11.920 as a whole needs to be changed. You've said that you want to see no shared revenue going towards 10:11.920 --> 10:16.480 flock cameras at the time until we can figure out how to use this technology appropriately. 10:16.480 --> 10:21.120 Yeah, so I don't remember attacking David Crowley in regards to this issue. But what I've 10:21.120 --> 10:28.080 said in regards to flock cameras is that, yeah, we should turn off the shared revenue and take 10:28.080 --> 10:33.040 a time out here and put together a study committee. We're going to put together a study committee and 10:33.040 --> 10:38.400 we're going to bring people from all walks of life in to make sure that we put the appropriate 10:38.400 --> 10:46.880 guardrails around flock cameras. And for me, the first thing that I will emphasize is we've 10:46.880 --> 10:51.760 got to make sure we protect people's privacy. We need to make sure that people's data is not being 10:52.480 --> 10:56.560 shipped to communist China or something like that or one of our adversaries. 10:56.560 --> 11:01.440 We need to make sure that we protect people's privacy and their information, their personal 11:01.440 --> 11:07.920 information. And I think it's time for us just to sit down and do a full review of what flock 11:07.920 --> 11:14.880 cameras capability is and then find the appropriate guardrails around it so that we make sure that 11:14.880 --> 11:21.200 we protect people's privacy while also allowing law enforcement to be able to catch those bad guys 11:21.200 --> 11:27.280 but do it appropriately. An area that seems adjacent to that is data centers and that's another one 11:27.360 --> 11:32.160 that seems to cut across political lines of people generally worried or opposed to this. 11:33.040 --> 11:38.400 So what is the best way to approach these issues when it comes to political leadership? 11:38.400 --> 11:42.640 So I think both in regards to flock cameras as well as data centers. I think people are just 11:42.640 --> 11:48.000 saying time out the technology changes so fast and this has been going on for years where 11:48.960 --> 11:54.160 the technology changes so fast and they're like okay what are the capabilities of this technology 11:54.240 --> 12:01.280 and people just want to have a bit of a time out. So in regards to data centers I just say 12:01.280 --> 12:05.920 no data centers unless we do the following conditions. No subsidies. A couple years ago 12:05.920 --> 12:10.400 Governor Evers signed a bill into law that allows additional subsidies for data centers. These 12:10.400 --> 12:14.000 are some of the richest companies in the world. They don't need subsidies from you and I and the 12:14.000 --> 12:19.680 taxpayers of Wisconsin. My opponent David Crowley supports those subsidies. We should not raise 12:19.680 --> 12:24.000 people's electricity rates. There should be no non-disclosure agreements. Local people should 12:24.000 --> 12:30.320 have input and we should not be converting on a subsidized basis our beautiful farmland here in 12:30.320 --> 12:35.680 Wisconsin and that's consistent with my position in regards to wind and solar where I have no problem 12:35.680 --> 12:40.720 with solar being built over impervious surfaces, parking lots, big industrial buildings, things 12:40.720 --> 12:45.600 like that but we've got to stop destroying our farmland here in Wisconsin and I would add one 12:45.680 --> 12:50.160 other thing in regards to data centers. My department of natural resources do a full environmental 12:50.160 --> 12:56.400 review to make sure that they meet all of our environmental laws here in Wisconsin and I would 12:56.400 --> 13:00.880 just point out the other difference between me and David Crowley is he said data centers should 13:00.880 --> 13:06.880 be powered by wind and solar. So we did the math on that. Just Mount Pleasant and Port Washington 13:06.880 --> 13:13.440 would take a hundred thousand acres of farmland in order to do that. That's just that we should 13:13.440 --> 13:17.760 not be destroying our farmland like that. So Democrats are saying you're a little inconsistent 13:17.760 --> 13:22.160 because of your vote for the speed act on this which would have had a 10 year moratorium on 13:22.160 --> 13:28.080 federal regulations. How is that different from your position today? So actually the speed act 13:28.080 --> 13:32.880 there's two different things that we're talking about there because the speed act would not take 13:32.880 --> 13:41.040 away state control of data centers. So even if the speed act passes which it hasn't if it does pass 13:41.120 --> 13:47.840 it will not affect my ability as governor to do any of the regulation that we choose to do 13:47.840 --> 13:52.560 around data centers. So there's still be local control. There still will be local control. Okay. 13:54.080 --> 13:58.000 So one of the other things that's come up in technology areas has to do with betting on 13:58.000 --> 14:02.800 elections and some of these betting websites. Do you think it should be illegal for people to 14:02.800 --> 14:07.520 bet on elections and vote in the same election as it is in Wisconsin and what are you doing to 14:07.520 --> 14:13.200 make sure that no one on your staff is engaging in any betting on elections? So yeah I don't 14:13.200 --> 14:17.680 think we should be betting on elections and my staff will not be betting on elections because 14:17.680 --> 14:23.280 I've told them that they can't do that. I mean they just shouldn't do that. Do you what would 14:23.280 --> 14:29.520 as governor would you want to see some regulation of sites like Kelsey or Polymarket? Yeah that may 14:29.520 --> 14:35.040 be necessary. I mean it's probably better to do some of that at the federal level that you have 14:35.040 --> 14:40.880 consistent rules across the entire United States but we would certainly take a look at that 14:40.880 --> 14:49.520 and see if there's an appropriate place for making sure that it isn't creating a problem 14:49.520 --> 14:54.640 in our state. Let's talk a little bit about what it'll take to win this November for you. 14:54.640 --> 14:59.360 Traditionally I guess historically going back 20 years Republicans had very consistent turnout 14:59.360 --> 15:04.160 in off-year elections, non-presidential years, whereas Democrats needed really high turnout in 15:04.160 --> 15:09.360 order to win. That seems to have flipped in the last 10 years where Trump has turned out more 15:09.360 --> 15:14.080 rural voters in presidential years but they don't often show up in off-years whereas some of those 15:14.080 --> 15:18.240 same suburban voters that Republicans used to count on in the wild counties are now trending a 15:18.240 --> 15:23.200 little more blue. So what do you need to win this fall in terms of turnout? Do you want the highest 15:23.200 --> 15:29.760 turnout possible? Is that to your advantage? Well we need 50 plus one. That's where we start. 15:29.760 --> 15:35.280 But you know I've had a 72 county strategy from the very start and we're delivering a message 15:36.240 --> 15:40.400 that starts with affordability, accountability, and we're going to bring common sense to Madison. 15:40.880 --> 15:45.760 And I think that some of it's going to cut across party lines to a certain extent. I mean we just 15:45.760 --> 15:50.080 talked about in regards to the conversion of our farmland. I can tell you there's a lot of 15:50.080 --> 15:56.000 Republicans that are people who are not identified as Republicans in rural areas around Wisconsin. 15:56.080 --> 16:01.680 They're tired of seeing this farmland being converted and it's a big issue for them and we're going 16:01.680 --> 16:08.560 to win votes there. So we're just taking a message that Wisconsin can be one of the great states in 16:08.560 --> 16:13.520 America. I mean we're going to decide in this election are we going to slide in the direction 16:13.520 --> 16:18.320 of like Minnesota and Illinois which are among the laggards here in the country at this point. 16:18.320 --> 16:22.240 Are we going to be one of the really up-and-coming states? Are we going to be one of the great states 16:22.240 --> 16:28.000 in America? And if we do those things like return more money to the taxpayers so they have it in 16:28.000 --> 16:34.400 their pockets, don't regulate them so much that you basically regulate them out of business. 16:34.400 --> 16:39.360 Let's make sure that we audit all of state governments so your tax dollars are not being wasted, 16:39.360 --> 16:46.320 that they're not being stolen by fraudsters. Let's do all those basic things that make a state a 16:46.320 --> 16:51.600 great place to live, work, and recreate in. We do those things and we're going to do really well 16:51.680 --> 16:56.960 in Wisconsin and I think that message is resonating with people across the state. 16:57.920 --> 17:03.200 So would you invite Donald Trump to campaign in Wisconsin? Do you think you need him to burst 17:03.200 --> 17:07.120 boost turnout in some of those areas? I mean the president's going to decide where he's going to 17:07.120 --> 17:14.320 campaign here in 2026 in the balance of the election. We just go out and do our job every day. I mean 17:14.320 --> 17:21.280 it's like the question in regards to the convention that's coming up this week down in Dallas. 17:21.280 --> 17:26.640 I mean I've got a full schedule that's been set in place. We're meeting every person that we can 17:26.640 --> 17:33.760 in the state of Wisconsin and we're talking about the issues because it's much like my opponent. 17:33.760 --> 17:38.720 You hear him talk when he talks about all he talks about is Tom Tiffany and Donald Trump 17:39.520 --> 17:46.240 and he's not talking about what do Wisconsinites want so he can rail against Donald Trump. 17:46.240 --> 17:51.920 I'm fighting for Wisconsin and that's what I will do as governor. We're going to make sure we do 17:51.920 --> 17:57.280 the things that are best for the state of Wisconsin and I've always went about my business that way 17:57.280 --> 18:03.360 whether I was in the state legislature or now in Congress. The test is always what's best for 18:03.360 --> 18:08.400 Wisconsin and that's what I'm going to do as governor. Right now Donald Trump has this lowest 18:08.400 --> 18:12.000 rating ever among independents and there's a lot of people saying well that's going to sink Tom 18:12.000 --> 18:17.680 Tiffany. They're independents though so how do you get them to focus on this race separate from their 18:17.680 --> 18:24.400 approval rating of the president? To talk about what's going to make Wisconsin a really great 18:24.400 --> 18:29.280 state once again because I mean look at the things that are happening right now 400-year 18:29.280 --> 18:34.640 property tax increase. Property taxes went up the most in 30 years last December. That's going to 18:34.640 --> 18:40.960 continue if we don't end that property tax increase. We're going to do that. Two utility rates continue 18:40.960 --> 18:46.240 to go up nickel and diming people in their monthly budgets. We're going to end that. We're 18:46.240 --> 18:51.120 going to stop this billions of dollars of increases of utility rates. We're going to audit state 18:51.120 --> 18:56.560 government. We've seen the fraud that's going on over our neighbors to the west in Minnesota. 18:57.360 --> 19:00.560 Some of that's going on in Wisconsin too. We're going to make sure and audit all the state 19:00.560 --> 19:05.760 government so we don't. That money isn't stolen by fraudsters so we're going to put more money 19:05.760 --> 19:11.200 into people's pockets. We're going to make it so that it is easier for them if they want to start 19:11.200 --> 19:17.280 a business, if they want to expand their business. We're going to make it easier for them in Wisconsin 19:17.280 --> 19:23.120 rather than for example taking 14 months to get permits to be able to build a home. We are going 19:23.120 --> 19:28.160 to make Wisconsin a destination here in the upper Midwest for those who want to prosper. 19:28.720 --> 19:34.800 In 2024 Republicans saw large boost from Hispanic voters crossing over to vote for Republicans in 19:34.880 --> 19:40.160 Donald Trump specifically. Since then in some other elections and special elections you've seen 19:40.160 --> 19:45.840 some of that Hispanic vote revert back to Democrats. What is your message to Hispanic voters? Not only 19:45.840 --> 19:50.080 in southeast Wisconsin but those that live in rural Wisconsin about what you can do for them as 19:50.080 --> 19:58.160 governor. Yeah I don't deliver a message to any particular group. I address all Wisconsinites 19:58.160 --> 20:03.920 regardless of what your ethnicity is, regardless of what your color is. The plan that we have in 20:03.920 --> 20:11.760 place of lower taxes, greater affordability, making sure state government is accountable to you. 20:11.760 --> 20:16.880 We're going to grow jobs. We're going to make Wisconsin one of the best states in the country 20:16.880 --> 20:22.880 to be able to live, work and play and I think that resonates with everyone. 20:24.320 --> 20:28.720 What is your impact going to be on the down ballot races? There's a lot of really tight 20:28.720 --> 20:32.640 assembly and state senate races that will determine who controls the legislature. 20:32.640 --> 20:36.480 Do you think they're going to ride right along with you in terms of your success means their 20:36.480 --> 20:41.360 success for Republicans? Yeah I believe we have a very good chance to be able to win this race 20:41.360 --> 20:46.240 especially when they see the contrast between myself and David Crowley. I mean David Crowley is 20:46.240 --> 20:52.400 weak on crime. We're going to make sure that people have safe streets here in Wisconsin. 20:52.400 --> 20:58.960 He's consistently raised taxes. Every year as county executive they've raised their property 20:58.960 --> 21:03.680 taxes. The one year they didn't he nearly doubled the sales tax. That's not going to make our 21:03.680 --> 21:09.520 state more prosperous. I have a record of reducing taxes especially for working class people and 21:09.520 --> 21:13.760 then we're going to audit all of state government. We know David Crowley is not because if he were 21:13.760 --> 21:18.960 going to he would start with Milwaukee County right now with them having nearly a 51 million 21:18.960 --> 21:24.400 dollar deficit facing them. So we're going to do all those things that are going to make Wisconsin 21:24.400 --> 21:31.760 a better state and I think that that is going to resonate with the voters and I think that 21:31.760 --> 21:37.360 it will help us down ballot. The United States Postal Service has absentee balloting rules that 21:37.360 --> 21:41.920 are currently in court and looks like they're heading for the US Supreme Court. Would you support 21:41.920 --> 21:46.240 those changes going in place even as absentee ballots are already being sent out in Wisconsin? 21:46.240 --> 21:50.240 I mean that's going to be up to the courts. It is in the courts at this point and they're going to 21:50.320 --> 21:56.560 decide what role is going to be able to be played there. All I know is I have confidence in clerks 21:56.560 --> 22:01.440 across the state of Wisconsin. There's hundreds of them and I've worked with them in northern 22:01.440 --> 22:07.840 Wisconsin. Regardless of what rules are put before them they always go out and do their job and 22:09.920 --> 22:15.360 appreciate the work that they do. It's noticeably more difficult for some people in rural areas to 22:15.360 --> 22:20.480 vote absentee either in person due to limited hours or through mail service whether it can get 22:20.480 --> 22:25.200 there on time. So what would your recommendation be to voters where they may not be sure as we get 22:25.200 --> 22:30.080 closer to the election whether what they should do with that ballot? Yeah go out and get your ballot 22:30.080 --> 22:36.080 in because we know that the mail US mail is not what it used to be. I mean it's a number of years 22:36.080 --> 22:42.400 ago that our US mail service has been in decline so make sure you figure out how you're going to 22:42.400 --> 22:49.600 vote and remember at two weeks before the election you can go vote in person so that is an option 22:49.600 --> 22:54.800 also. It is one of the places where the cities have a big advantage over rural areas where they 22:54.800 --> 23:02.640 have a staff of people that they can be open almost 24 hours if they choose to. That's just not the 23:02.640 --> 23:08.000 case where you go to some of these small towns where the clerk is maybe only in there a couple 23:08.000 --> 23:13.280 days a week so it is a real challenge in the rural areas and I would just urge everybody make 23:13.280 --> 23:18.080 plan how you're going to vote and we want you to vote in this election. Do you have complete 23:18.080 --> 23:23.280 confidence that our elections in Wisconsin are free and fair and legitimate? I believe that our 23:23.280 --> 23:28.880 elections are going to be done in that fashion I mean it should be easy to vote but hard to cheat. 23:28.880 --> 23:32.800 Now there's been a couple instances you look at Madison they had city of Madison had to fire 23:32.880 --> 23:38.240 their clerk two years ago because she failed to count 197 ballots. Green Bay has had a problem 23:38.240 --> 23:44.560 two elections in a row with their clerk. I mean we have to be vigilant also but I just know the 23:44.560 --> 23:52.160 hundreds of clerks across the state of Wisconsin they do the very best job that they can. So as 23:52.160 --> 23:56.480 Governor would you end some of these lawsuits that the state is currently filed with the Trump 23:56.480 --> 24:02.160 administration or is that would strictly be at the discretion of the attorney general? For example 24:02.480 --> 24:06.640 the attorney general's filed more join more than 60 multi-state lawsuits against Trump 24:06.640 --> 24:11.600 administration rules and regulations. Would you have any authority as governor to get Wisconsin 24:11.600 --> 24:16.880 out of any of those lawsuits? So I'm always going to do what's best for the state of Wisconsin 24:16.880 --> 24:22.240 if I believe a suit needs to be filed and it's in the best interest of Wisconsin then I will do 24:22.240 --> 24:28.240 that but I'm hoping that that's not what we're going to have to do. Let's go to work once I get 24:28.240 --> 24:32.640 elected on November 3rd. We're going to do our transition over the next couple months and we're 24:32.640 --> 24:37.520 going to be ready on day one and I think that's one of the big differences between me and my opponent 24:37.520 --> 24:42.880 also. I'm going to be prepared. I mean I've served as a town board supervisor at the very 24:42.880 --> 24:47.360 the most local level of government served in the legislature and now in Congress. 24:47.920 --> 24:53.680 Owned our own business for 20 years. I have some of the experience that is going to be able to 24:54.480 --> 25:00.720 get us going on day one to make Wisconsin more affordable and make state government more accountable 25:00.720 --> 25:05.440 to the people. We've seen governor Evers has at times had an antagonistic relationship with 25:05.440 --> 25:10.320 the Trump administration. Do you think Wisconsin overall would be better off given your relationship 25:10.320 --> 25:14.160 with the Trump administration? Would we be treated differently in any way? Well we're going to get 25:14.160 --> 25:19.840 some good things done because for example we have the non-attainment zone in southeastern Wisconsin 25:19.920 --> 25:26.000 which is costing us jobs down there and also making it very expensive for example like 25:26.000 --> 25:31.440 vehicle emissions testing. That a non-attainment zone is in place because we're being penalized 25:31.440 --> 25:36.240 for Chicago's pollution that blows up to southeastern Wisconsin. I'm going to sit down and talk to 25:36.240 --> 25:41.520 the EPA secretary Lee Zeldin. I worked with him when I was in Congress when he was a member of 25:41.520 --> 25:46.960 Congress and we're going to sit down and try to get to a better solution that doesn't penalize 25:46.960 --> 25:53.520 Wisconsin. Always looking out for Wisconsin first. When you voted for Wisconsin's current abortion 25:53.520 --> 25:57.600 law and you've made it clear that you support the current regulations that are in place but in 25:57.600 --> 26:01.760 Congress you also supported a bill that would have reduced the limitations to six weeks. 26:02.400 --> 26:07.360 What would you do as governor if a Republican legislature put a shorter term on abortion in 26:07.360 --> 26:12.400 front of your desk? So there's been all types of proposals that have been introduced over the years. 26:12.400 --> 26:18.240 I stand by my vote 10 years ago. 10 years ago when I was in the state senate I voted for the five 26:18.240 --> 26:24.720 month bill. As you said it is now the law in the state of Wisconsin. I will uphold that law here. 26:25.600 --> 26:31.920 You've also talked about audit reviews and regulation checks in Wisconsin. Would those be similar to 26:31.920 --> 26:37.360 Doge and what we saw happen at the federal level and some of those seem to have gone beyond some 26:37.360 --> 26:40.960 of what they were intended to do in terms of programs that would be cut or what assurances 26:40.960 --> 26:45.600 can you give Wisconsinites that it would only be fraud or misplaced spending that would be eliminated 26:45.600 --> 26:50.080 in Wisconsin. No we're going to do it our own way. I've seen how they've done it but I've also seen 26:50.080 --> 26:55.120 how it can be done in Wisconsin. In fact I'm hearing from people within state agencies at this point 26:55.680 --> 27:01.360 we have some ideas for you to take a look at to be able to root out that fraud but you take a look 27:01.360 --> 27:08.480 at the example of Minnesota nine billion dollars in counting and I asked governor Evers to cooperate 27:08.640 --> 27:15.440 with the federal government in regards to food stamps and he's chosen not to do that he believes 27:15.440 --> 27:20.320 there's very little fraud but we don't know that unless you actually check it out. I mean look at 27:20.320 --> 27:25.520 one of those agencies new cap up in Green Bay for northeastern Wisconsin supposed to deliver 27:25.520 --> 27:32.720 services for those who are less well off. They're broke now because of not being run properly. 27:32.720 --> 27:38.400 We need to make sure that we do this one to protect taxpayers but more importantly is to 27:38.400 --> 27:43.920 to be able to deliver services for those who are less fortunate those are who are disabled 27:43.920 --> 27:48.560 perhaps somebody that's hit a rough patch in life and we choose as generous people in Wisconsin 27:48.560 --> 27:54.960 to help them out. Let's make sure that those resources are there so that we can be the helpful 27:54.960 --> 28:00.560 people that we always are. If elected there could be an interesting parallel and that in 2010 28:00.560 --> 28:03.760 Republicans came into power after eight years with the Democratic governor 28:04.400 --> 28:09.440 basically vetoing most of the Republican proposals and there was a huge amount of bills that came 28:09.440 --> 28:14.640 in and were passed under governor Scott Walker. Would you expect to see a similar flurry of 28:14.640 --> 28:18.800 immediate legislation if you become governor with the Republican legislature? I mean there'll 28:18.800 --> 28:23.520 certainly be legislation that will come forward. I mean we will start from day one to implement 28:23.520 --> 28:29.040 these things. First of all we will I'll call a special session to end the 400 year property 28:29.040 --> 28:35.440 tax increase. We will establish the audits to make sure that we were rooting out the waste and 28:35.440 --> 28:41.760 fraud. I mean we will do those things immediately to make sure that we follow through in our agenda 28:41.760 --> 28:46.480 affordability and accountability and then I mean I think about other things we'll probably do 28:46.480 --> 28:50.640 something in regards to housing immediately. There's a variety of housing programs that are 28:50.640 --> 28:57.040 oftentimes geared towards renting in state programs. I think we should take more of those programs 28:57.040 --> 29:03.520 and gear them towards home ownership. Let's help young people make that next step to home ownership. 29:03.520 --> 29:10.800 We're going to have a robust agenda that we will roll out steadily whether it's like 2011 or not. 29:10.800 --> 29:15.200 I don't know we're going to do it our own way. All right Congressman Tiffany thanks for your time. 29:15.200 --> 29:21.120 Good to join you Zach. All right we're good. Thank you so much for your time I appreciate you.