next door. Who are you? Sure. Next door, Milwaukee is a foundation, an education foundation. We have two major centers where we serve upwards of a thousand children along with our our partnerships. We have 13 partnerships. So we have two major centers, 29th Street and Capitol. Those are two locations. And then we also have early Head Start and Head Start grants with 13 partnerships that we have. And we also have our home base program where we serve, I believe, about 200 children currently. Okay. And where how do you select who gets to come here? It's a pretty beautiful facility. It is. It is. It really is based on where a people live and then if they are eligible for Head Start or early Head Start. So that is an income-based question. Okay. But otherwise they're coming from roughly the around the neighborhood. Absolutely. This is a community-based. Yes. So in terms of the classroom that we saw this morning, is that a general classroom or what were we seeing in there? Yeah. We were seeing fun. So just a wonderful classroom, an early Head Start classroom. And we say that early Head Start because that's our grant. And that was a two-year-old kind of a toddler classroom. And it had three teachers and a coach working in there this morning. And they are doing Lina this morning. So you could tell they had the little vests on and inside those little vests are these little recording devices. And they are actually recording the frequency of the interactions between the teachers and the children. So talk to me about what Lina is and then how Lina gave a partner with what you're doing here. Lina is an amazing program that we were actually part of a research piece about two years ago with the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee, a researcher from there and a researcher from our cat and Lina. And we loved it so much that we made it sustainable practice. So we do Lina specifically in classrooms with twos in them, meaning two-year-olds. And we focused on two-year-olds because as we were walking through the COVID times, we noticed kind of a dip right before our two-year-olds and in communication. And then as they were coming through twos into just the next couple months, we know that that's a critical time for our children because that's actually when they start to put words together and and may start like beginning sentence structure. So this was a really important time to catch them and do more communication with them. So is Lina a program or a group or is it all? Lina is actually a way it's a coaching. It's a form of coaching. And basically what we do is we collect the data from the frequency of interactions between the teachers and the child and then we have a coach that coaches and debriefs with the teachers around that data that is given to us through the Lina program and that data helps us to set goals for the teachers and then they work weekly on those goals. So it's really exciting. What did you see in that early in the first year or two of the program that made you feel like this is something we want to do permanently? Oh that's a great question. We saw first of all teachers interacting with the Lina program being very excited about their data, being challenged by their data, enjoying the coaching around that. The teachers sharing the information and data for their individual child with parents and giving parents some things they could do at home to also reinforce some of that communication. We also saw for our children we saw an increase especially in the children that really were maybe not as verbal, not as expressive. We saw an increase, a pretty significant increase in the amount of interactions. So the teachers were doing very targeted interactions with children and trying to increase that opportunity for them to be expressive. So is it it's a coaching system for the teachers is it more it helps the teachers understand what's going on so they can do a better job with the kids? Yes. Yes. So it's very informed data for our teachers. So we talk about data informed practice. This is data informed practice. So we are doing the best of data informed practice and the teachers love it. In fact they actually enjoy even doing coaching as teams. So if they choose to be in a team they can have that done also and they really enjoy that because they even get really excited about seeing how they can improve. So part of the story that we're working on looks at the the broader delays that are being noticed in young children today coming out of the pandemic. I'm assuming you've identified in scenes of those same things. Yes. So maybe talk to me a little more broadly about what what you're seeing or when you first started noticing that that uptick. We noticed that I came aboard next door June of 2022 right in the middle of the pandemic and started looking at the data right away. As a director of educational services I have access to a lot of the assessments that we do in the results and we were seeing certain areas not it not as bad as some situations that we were hearing nationwide. We actually did pretty well through COVID and I have to say a lot of it is because maybe we were open. We offered intensive services too. But this Lena was part of that. So we started seeing dips especially dips in communication. So many of the teachers talked about the the children being quiet. We also referenced that the teachers were being a little bit more quiet. So we were so used to having the masks on and we really needed even when the masks came off to get back into those habits of communicating verbally and that was a practice we had to get back to. So this was a way that our teachers reinforced that they had to do something that they were you know committed to doing and also helping our children to have that more opportunity to interact and build communication. What is the difference it can make for a child over the course of their time here and then obviously into the rest of their life if they if a delay isn't caught or if a delay isn't worked on or is allowed to remain. We know so much about that now. We know that early communication affects children's communication throughout their life that that is connected language is directly connected to literacy. Literacy is a foundation of all the other academic areas that a child will get into. So if they don't have access into strong literacy skill sets then they're really they could really significantly be impacted academically in that and that is directly connected to everything from graduation rates to to whether or not children stay in school whether or not they feel connected to their system in school and excited about their future. So all of that has a lot to do with that early communication. We also know that early communication in itself allows a child to feel like less frustration. So if they're able to verbalize or at least find a way to express and be understood we have less social emotional issues and we did see an increase in social emotional concerns right as the as COVID was rolling out. So so much of this was all happening at once that there were a lot of conspiracy theories surrounding COVID and you know vaccines and masks and isolation and then the exacerbating the issues surrounding you know wealth inequality and other kind of gaps that exist already in some of those barriers. Is there a way to separate any of those out to find out what was actually happening in causing this? And in causing the communication issues. Yeah some of these delays the dips that we're being seized. Yeah actually we do know because of the Lina data that has been shared with us because we are we are one of the sites where the research was done. We do know we have a significant data pool to pull from and see that that during COVID we were directly impacted. The masking did make a significant difference as we are now seeing also the trends in children's understanding of literacy. Later on we're also seeing that that not having it early on is making an impact those communication gaps are pretty significant. So we are seeing it so nationwide you're hearing terms like COVID babies. So we know that we are seeing an increase in social emotional challenges nationwide. We are seeing nationwide an increase in literacy issues and actually literacy dropping. That's why we came in really solidly and said we're not going to let that happen. We're going to come in strong and we're going to come in with every way we can to support and intervene prior to that happening so that our children have everything they need to succeed. And being in early head start and head start we know that we also have situations of economic disadvantage our families have situations that you know can impact our children and absolutely that makes it I think even more critical that we take this very seriously and do everything we can to make sure our children go into kindergarten first grade ready to go. How much of this are you able to send home to parents so that they because obviously you can't do everything here. Yeah they spend most of their time at home with family. Absolutely quite a lot. We have a strong relationships with our families. Head Start really solidly is always based on family and community. So we not only have a wonderful relationship with families we have family advocates for every classroom we have our teachers committed to connecting with the families on a daily basis and we even have apps we have we're on TikTok now Facebook we do everything we can to connect with our families. So that's and we've been open so our families come through for most of COVID so that's been a huge huge piece of that. But we also have community members that come in and we really do believe that we could not do our work without the village that and the community that helps us to do our work well. So I know I've got more people that are going to give me more insight from their levels. Is there anything else that you'd like to add along the lines of what we've been talking about? I think Lina is an amazing program. We have we do it in both sites in our center based and we do it with our child care partnerships. It is something that has been changing our a lot of our trajectories right a lot of our journeys and we see a positive impact of this and want to continue that. So if anybody's considering that you know they'd be open to seeing how it runs we we would be a site that that I think would be interesting to look at. Along with that though it's just one of the many things that we are doing to make sure that our children are ready in language and literacy. I do have one final question for you and that is looking at the public schools and other facilities around the state that aren't as well supported that don't have as much community support involved with it. I've heard from a lot of them that they are overwhelmed with the increased caseload and a number of other people coming in. Are they able to handle that capacity? I mean in your estimation what would it be like if you saw the dip you know that these issues are here there's an increased need but you didn't have the capacity to to do more with those kids. It's a challenge. It is a huge challenge. We know a lot of our systems are resource depleted and and they're tired. They're tired of taking on that and not having enough and that you know and people say that money doesn't make a difference. It does. It makes a difference. Resources make a difference and community makes a difference and I think Nextdoor has built not just the resources financial resources through Head Start and Early Head Start supports and also our charter but I think more than anything we know the the impact that our community makes and we put in the time and effort to do that and I think not not getting down and finding you know being proactive about everything you can do around language and literacy is really very important. It gives gives our families the foundation of what they need for their child's future and even their future so I think that that's really important. It doesn't have to always cost a lot of money either to do some things. I think Lina is one of those programs that's worth it. Can I get you to do say and spell your name? Give your title. Absolutely. My first name is Tonya, T-O-N-Y-A. My last name is Hammeister, H-A-M-E-I-S-T-E-R. All right and title? Do I get title? What do you want to do? Oh I thought you meant sorry. I'm a doctor too. Director of Educational Services. All right perfect. Thank you. Thank you. You survived. Didn't need your notes. You made it. May