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Good afternoon and welcome to Milwaukee Host City for the 2024 Republican National Convention.
This is a special presentation of here now's 2024 election coverage.
We are coming to you live from Media Row inside Panther Arena in downtown Milwaukee.
I'm Zach Schultz, senior political reporter for here and now and I am joined by our esteemed
political pundits, Bill McCoshan, Scott Ross. Thank you, gentlemen, both for being here today.
Thanks for having us. Well, first off, let's start with the overall atmosphere. It's hot
Milwaukee, but it's a nice day. People are here. How do you feel at the beginning of this convention
for the Republicans, Bill? I'll say it's the most unified convention I've been to. This is my
fifth convention and people here are excited about, you know, the president. They're excited about
his pick for VP at some point this afternoon. We'll get to that during the program and
they're just excited to get rolling with the general election. Scott, what are your fives as
you're walking in here today? I mean, I've seen a lot of people with smiles, like Bill said,
and you know, it definitely I was I had to squeeze you off by the time I got in here because it is
a sticky mess outside. But you know, what I've noticed most is just kind of how different
sort of the two parties are in terms of like their message, what they perceive as the facts,
what they perceive as the truth. That sort of thing. Everybody's been very nice,
but I'm seeing and hearing things that just don't compute sometimes. Well, we saw a landslide shift
occur in the nation in just the last couple of days with the attempted assassination of former
president Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. We've seen a lot of tone change and messages
coming from both president Biden speaking from the White House, telling people to tamp down the
rhetoric. We've heard it from Republicans. Bill, what do you think is the general fallout from
what happened over the weekend going forward? I'm hoping it's positive. And I'll take the current
president and the former president at their word. They've been very gracious, both of them.
It was a life changing, changing event. And we were millimeters away from an actual assassination,
which not even an attempt has occurred in the United States of America for 43 years 1981.
Ronald Reagan was the last time that a president was shot at. So it's a troubling time. It's a
dark time, but I'm hoping that it brings people together and allows us to focus on our differences
on policy. This is not a civil war. These are policy debates and policy differences.
It should never rise to the level of violence on either side. And I think the former first lady
Melania Trump had the best statement over the weekend where she just called for calm. And I think
if I'm choreographing the president's remarks, I know that he's already
ripped up his original speech for Thursday night. He's going to talk about unity. That's a win.
I think if he gives a message of US unity, world unity on Thursday night, people are going to
leave here so fired up, it'll be like no convention in history. Scott, how do you see the fallout
playing out? Well, I was, you know, I mean, obviously, this was an unacceptable event. And it took me
back, you know, I was 11 years old when Ronald Reagan, when John Hinckley attempted to assassinate
Ronald Reagan, I was at home that day. I was sick. So I was hanging out watching TV, which is what
you do. So I watched all of that unfold. And as this was going on, and I saw and heard, you know,
it did take me back to that sort of ugliness about where we were, what happens, but where we don't
want to go back to. Now I will say this, I am very proud to be a Democrat today because I did hear
so much, you know, legitimate concern for the president, for the, you know, for the, for the
gentleman who perished, for the injured. And that's what we need. We need to have decency. And I'll
say this, I watched President Biden's speech last night. And I think he's the only one in the race
who could deliver a message like that. Violence has no place in this country, period, no exceptions.
We cannot allow violence to be normalized. I agree with that 100%. I'm sure Bill agrees with
that 100%. I think the people agree with that 100%. But we've got to make sure that our elected
officials aren't stoked in the fires. I've seen some of that even with politicians in Wisconsin,
and I don't think it's acceptable. So we're going to disagree on that a little bit.
I thought President Biden's remarks on Saturday night were very good. I thought his remarks
yesterday morning were also very good. I think his remarks last night on national television were
unfortunate because it were too scripted. I think he's better than that. I think they
should have come from the heart. It should have been authentic. They should not have been on a
prompter. He could have had a couple of notes in front of them. Just tell America what you want us
to do, right? He's flubbed a few times last night reading off that prompter. So they clearly
weren't his words. So yeah, generally speaking, I'm giving him credit. And I think he was good
Saturday night and Sunday morning. Last night, I think it was a misstep on the president's part.
Do you believe that there's a real tone change, Scott? I mean, can you trust
what Donald Trump says? I'm going to change my tone.
It's really hard to do it because so far the campaign has been about retribution and revenge
for he and his wealthy donors, whereas Joe Biden gets up every day and he is trying to fight for
the people of Wisconsin and the people of America. So I think it's going to be hard to say that,
because again, we've seen some of the biggest luminaries in the Republican Party, Marjorie Taylor
Green, Lauren Boebert, attacking Biden and blaming him for the assassination attempt.
And in fact, our own congressman in Western Wisconsin, Derek Van Orton, his response to it was to
quote the NRA's, you know, stand your ground. And then, you know, he was on the radio earlier
this morning and talking about that somehow they were behind this. It wasn't a they. It was a loan,
nut bag, you know, from Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, a registered Republican,
not that matters, who was behind this. It wasn't some sort of conspiracy to try
and insert that into this debate at this time, especially today when Republicans should be,
you know, like Bill said, celebrating their unity, what they want to do for the country.
I think it was unfortunate that we have continued to see and hear and read things like that.
Yeah, I think those are limited. And I would say this, my biggest concern is this investigation.
How long is it going to take? I think it needs to be immediate, right? And I think the director of
the Secret Service should be relieved of her duties. This was a massive security failure.
How can someone get on a roof 150 yards from a major candidate for president?
Makes no sense to me. And the fact yesterday there was some reporting that the sniper from
the U.S. Secret Service actually had this guy in his scope for a couple minutes before the shooting
started. Why didn't he get the green light? Why didn't he just execute and move forward? It
doesn't make sense that we would allow that to happen on Saturday. So I think we're going to have
to get to the bottom of that for both candidates, frankly. But when it comes to
independence, Democrats, moderates, Republicans who may like what Trump may stand for policy-wise,
but have moved away from him tone-wise, what will it take for them to trust what Trump says
in terms of his new tone, his new unity message that he'll actually follow through
if he becomes president when he's been talking about being a dictator for day one.
I think Thursday nights is a great opportunity for him to reset the tone going forward. I think
there's two major takeaways, Zach, from the last three weeks that are imagery that will last with
voters all the way until November. The first being the debate where President Biden looked weak,
that's as far as I'll go. I'll be kind about it. And then Saturday when Donald Trump was nearly
assassinated, he gets up and he pumps his fist. He looks strong. And so that's the image that's
in voters' minds right now, that one weak candidate, one strong candidate. And I think that works to
Trump's benefit. And as we started the program, I mean, there's new polling out today that shows
Trump leading in all of the swing states. So I think Republicans here have a skip in their step,
and there's a long way to go. There's 113 days to go. I don't think anyone should take anything
for granted. I agree with Scott, this is ultimately going to be a close race, including in Wisconsin.
But I'd rather be in our position right now.
Would you saw the photo of Donald Trump pumping his fist with blood coming out of his mouth and
in his ear? Were your thoughts like, oh, you know, Democrats just lost the race or is this?
No, I didn't think of that. I thought about the country first. I'm not going to lie. Like,
what is going on here? How can we, how can this be happening?
So I think that, you know, this has to, you know, we have to, you know, we have a political
campaign. It is, I still believe, despite, you know, the attempted assassination of Donald Trump,
it still is, you know, a very serious contest for the direction of how the country is going to go,
not just for now, but I think decades from now. And that is very serious. But we also have to,
you know, note what happened. We've got to, you know, respect the fact that lives, you know, life
was lost. And we need to make sure that we're doing what has to happen to bring this country
together. Now, the problem is, as Bill knows, you know, governance is supposed to be about
bringing people together to solve problems. Campaigns have been about dividing people,
you know, cutting off. And I know, you know, trying to rev up your base. Exactly. How do you
break it off? And I guess we'll see here in the state of Wisconsin, because I, at least from my
perspective, I don't think Donald Trump can be president without winning Wisconsin. I don't
think Joe Biden can be president without winning Wisconsin. So what's going to happen over the
next 113 days to make sure that you're picking up those swing voters that you need? I think the
message of the Republicans is going to be problematic for that. And we'll see how the tone changes
if they can soften their policy a little bit, which, you know, which again is a is a is a tall
order given what we're hearing about their policies. I think last week, the announcement of the agenda
47, the which is the Republican platform that will be approved today by the delegates on the
convention floor set the standard. It's it's simple, easy to understand and focuses on the issues
people care about. And it minimizes those that divide us right like abortion. So I think that
was well crafted. And it's simple for any voter of any level of interest to pay attention to.
So we'll come back to the platform a little bit later. I do have a staying on the tone of what's
changed since the weekend. Even before that event, there were concerns about violence in the
wacky during this week. Would there be white nationalists coming up? Would probably be popping
out of a U-Haul and engaging with counter protesters. After today, do you think there will be political
violence this week in Milwaukee? None. Not from the right. I mean, you think about it. Our
candidate was nearly assassinated on Saturday night. No cities were lit on fire like Kenosha
or Minneapolis. No buildings were looted like Oakland, California or many other places across
the country. That's not how we act on our side. I don't expect that. I think Donald Trump will
make sure that that does not happen. But I have never again, this is my fifth convention. I've
never seen more law enforcement in my lifetime. So if there's any benefit from Saturday night,
and I want to make sure I'm careful about it, this place is locked down.
Do you expect any conflict between not necessarily in the perimeter, but between protesters on the
fringes? I'm certainly hoping not. I mean, again, people are inflamed about a lot of different
things. And unfortunately, we can't forget what's happened before Saturday, which is we had a
president in Donald Trump who with the Proud Boys stand up and blah, blah, blah, blah. We had
notions of him. He and Republicans mocking when the speaker, when Speaker Pelosi's
octogenarian husband was attacked with a hammer. I think that they have some
atonement amends to do to make sure that people believe that they really are not
condoning violence, because there's been a lot of a lot of terrible record. And there's certainly
there's certainly rhetoric on the left, but not at the level of elected officials that we've seen
it on on the right. And I think that's where the real challenge is. All right, we have breaking
news. I've just been told that JD Vance is the pick for VP first reactions.
Well, it's he's the youngest one in the field. 39 years old. He's a brand new senator. He's an
author. He's a military veteran. He's a Harvard law school graduate. He is the regs to riches story.
This guy grew up with an addicted mother, a single mother and his grandmother basically raised him
and his sister. And he is literally a regs to riches story who clawed for everything he got in his
life. And I think that's I think that will resonate with America. Scott, what do you think of him?
Well, I think two things. One, you know, he's our first, I guess Netflix candidate because he had
his little movie on Netflix. I guess so. And I guess the second thing is, will it take till
tonight before Democrats have videos up of JD Vance trashing Donald Trump over and over again
as he did in 2016? Well, and the question has to be, why does Trump need a new VP? Where's my
Pence? I mean, how much does that factor into why do people actually care? Why he needs a new VP?
Well, I don't think so. Not on our side. You know, and getting to I went to the welcome party last
night at summerfest grounds. And I talked to several people who were not Donald Trump supporters who
are now all in after Saturday night. So they don't I don't think they care that much who he picks. I
would have had my preference would have been someone like Glenn Yunken. I think he adds more to the
ticket. But the more I learn about JD Vance, I'm sure I'm going to be able to be as excited about
him. And again, I think he's got the most compelling backstory. He is American literally a regs to
riches from Appalachia to Harvard Law School to the US military to now the vice presidential
candidate for the Republican Party. I mean, does it really matter which Republican it was? I mean,
every single one of them is going to have a point in time where they were trashing Donald Trump
because there's really weren't very many that hadn't at this point and now claim to be best
friends with with him. Well, I mean, yes and no. I mean, I think the importance the importance here
is is why we need a new vice presidential pick. And I think that that's I think that is important.
I think the fact that what Mike Pence went through and how Donald Trump again with January 6 tried
to overturn the results of a democratically decided election in which five law enforcement
officers ended up losing their lives. 140 law enforcement officers were injured. And we try
we almost had, you know, a coup basically overturning a democratic, critically decided election in which
there was a gallows and people chanting, hang Mike Pence. So I think that's really important to
remember because it's such an ugly stain on our on our America, not just on our American politics.
And it can never ever something like that happen again. But you know, the vice presidential debate,
you know, the vice presidential sweepstakes are always a lot of fun. It certainly was fun when
Paul Ryan got his in in 2012. It was the first time I ever saw Ryan roughed up by the media,
you know, and it was it was interesting. But I do think, you know, again, it's going to be, you know,
I think the reason that JD Vance is the nominee is because one, he's from Ohio and means that
if he wins, the Republican governor gets to reappoint the next successor. Two, I think because, you know,
JD Vance or JD Vance was bought and created by Peter Teal, the gazillionaire. I don't even know
if we're bigger than billionaire gazillionaire, a venture capitalist out in out in California,
who has, you know, staked his his his political campaign gravitas on getting candidates over
the primary who then sometimes lose in the primaries. JD Vance is the one who didn't.
Now he's going to be Donald Trump's vice presidential pick. The advantage to advance is of the two
senators that were in the finals, he and Mark Arubio, he's not impacted by the 20th or the
12th amendment. So he can continue to serve until they are sworn in. So Mike DeWine, the governor of
Ohio, would not have to appoint someone until January of next year.
I'm sorry, I'm just making what's really going to be interesting, I think, in this
is from where JD Vance is, you know, where he'll be able to be eligible and stuff is south,
southeastern Pennsylvania, which is right next to and shares media markets with southwestern
Pennsylvania, which is a key place, and I, you know, that because I grew up there,
and it is a key place for Democrats to turn out the vote in Allegheny County, which is where Pittsburgh
is, and then Republicans turning out the dark, dark red places like where I grew up and the
surrounding things. And it'll be interesting to see how like, if there's any kind of like, oh,
this is this guy's one of us from over in Pennsylvania in that thing normally doesn't
happen because of the Cleveland Browns, but it might happen because of JD Vance just a little
bit. And again, just a little bit could make a difference in this election. We got a Steelers
Browns reference in, I like that. Yeah, excellent for Wisconsin. That's exactly what our audience
is looking for. Hey, hey, hey, speaking of Mike Pence, did either of you see a statement from
him since Saturday? I did. Yeah, he went out Saturday. All right, I missed it. I wanted to double
check. He did. He from him and his wife, Karen, he put it out. No offense to the president. The
president was in church when this happened. So there was a delay and then he had to get to a studio,
but Pence had it out before president Biden. In terms of unifying Republicans, can
Saturday night's events actually bring some of those never Trump Republicans back? I mean,
can we expect Paul Ryan or Mike Pence or any of those other people like all of the former cabinet
members that have said Trump's unfit to serve again? Will that change their position? Will they
become quiet? I think they may actually become active Trump supporters. All you have to do is
look at William Barr. He was not for Donald Trump in the primary process. And now he's defending him
fairly regularly. So I wouldn't be surprised to see others come around as well. It's a binary
choice. It is you can have beef or chicken beef being Trump or chicken being Biden. And
that's the choice America has. You can choose dessert first, but you're not going to go to bed
hungry. You're not going to get that choice. So it's really a binary choice. And I think
Republicans writ large will come around and understand that. Do you think Paul Ryan's coming
back around? I don't think so. And you know, and I'm sort of programmed to having watched Paul
Ryan for, you know, 25 years that he always, you know, sort of warms out when it comes to doing
the smart or the I'm sorry, not the smart, but the, you know, the conscience saving thing.
I think he's gone. But I do want to point out this because I think it is very interesting that
we're not going to have the former Republican President George Bush show up. We're not going
to have former more certainly not going to have former VP Dick Cheney show up because,
you know, Trump's still calling for tribunals for members of the January 6th commission, you know,
commission in con and that's a representative. So I think that's, you know, that's a big deal.
The fact that, you know, there's no former president here when there is a Republican
president alive, you know, I know that next month when we go to, you know, when we go to Chicago,
I'm sure President Obama is going to be there rallying up the troops, but they're not happening
here for George Bush and the winning candidate. The thing for George Bush, the thing about George
Bush is that, you know, he is that old neo con, you know, establishment, and they don't have a real
voice for that, speaking at least the program that I've seen so far, you know, and that's who's
talking to them. So today I happen to go to the heritage event, their policy day that was held
just outside the secure perimeter. I happen to see Vivek Ramaswami speak. He talked about
Project 2025, which as I know is, you know, prior to last weekend was like the Democrats' big talking
point. Do you think that still resonates? Is that something that can still penetrate through the
media consciousness right now? Well, if I may, here's a list of some of the things.
End to no fault divorce, a complete nationwide abortion ban, including IVF and no exceptions,
an abortion banning contraception, ending water protections, raising retirement age,
cutting social security and Medicare, eliminating the Department of Education, tax cuts for the
rich, a Muslim ban, guns in the classrooms, and pardoning all the January 6 terrorist insurrections.
That policy thing is a gold mine for Democrats to talk to the independent and the swing voters
who are going to decide this election in the battleground states. It's for sure. It's not
Trump's and Trump has disowned it multiple times already. There are 240 people affiliated with
between Project 25 and the Trump administration. It's not on any any interest group in DC. They
have their agenda. They're hoping to get it passed. Trump has his agenda is agenda 47, which is the
platform the Republicans are going to approve today. And that's it. But every time your viewers hear
about Project 2025, go ahead and look it up. I've never looked it up. I have no idea what's in
it. I don't know a single Republican who has looked at it, but that's not the Republican agenda.
But it doesn't matter whether it is if it can be tied to him. I guess my bigger question from the
landscape today is, can that actually be tied to Trump anymore? Or can it penetrate through, I guess,
I didn't think it could be tied to him before Saturday night. And and I think there's even less
of a chance that it can be tied to him now. He's going to talk about his agenda on on Thursday
night, the things that are important to him, which he thinks are on alignment with voters in
America. And that's what people out of take home is is what he says. I mean, in politics,
perception is reality, and the Democrats are going to continue to bang this and they should,
because even if there's like some places, this tiny little Venn diagram, you know, where the
republic where Trump's agenda is outside of the heritage, it's small. The meat of this is, you know,
blue and yellow making green, that's for sure. And you know, I just want page 451,
the only valid family is a working father married to a stay-at-home mother and their children.
Like, this is like madness, you know, this is like, you know, 19th century stuff. This is not
where America is. We are a much different country than we're a better country than that. And I think
that hanging, you know, the agenda of Project 2025 under around Trump's neck in 2024 is a good
move because people are opposed to that. I feel pretty good about that. If Democrats best
argument is some special interest groups agenda to use against the president, I think we're in
pretty good shape. Part of why I bring this up is basically since Trump came down the escalator
in 2015, he has defied every political death sentence that has been out there in terms of,
I cannot believe a candidate did that, you'll have to drop out of the race. You'll have to drop
either over and over and over again. He has defied gravity in the political realm and been able to
move the conversation onto the next thing. And I'm wondering if in this era, social media, how fast
think we just had a new VP pick come out today, how much will Saturday carry over 100 days from now
and how many more things will we be talking about in between there? What will stick in voters' minds?
There will be a lot. I mean, if we would have asked 60 days ago, what are the four or five things
that will change this race? Neither of us would have said a horrific debate performance or an
attempted assassination. It wouldn't have made either of our lists, yet they happen, right? So
expect the unexpected, but I don't foresee anything changing the trajectory of this race unless Democrats
replace Joe Biden. Then we'll see. Do you think that the there's going to be enough things that
the Butler, Pennsylvania rally is not going to be the dominant theme all the way through election day?
Yeah, I mean, again, I think the discussion about violence is going to continue most notably
because I fear that Trump will not stop with his inflections and suggestions of that as he has
throughout, you know, again, since he came down the escalator in June 2015. But yeah, we're going
to have to I think we'll have three or four different races between now and then something
will happen. And like you said, again, the normalization of some of this activity or at least the
perception that there's so much. That's why it drives, you know, liberals like me crazy when like
Biden has one bad debate. So we have to get rid of him. And Trump says, you know, 16 things before I
get up for breakfast that make me go, Oh my God, where am I at? You know, so but he has been quiet
recently. I mean, how much of that is, is that Trump waking up to realizing, Hey, but maybe I
should if I'm quiet, then the other guy will do it for me. Well, I think he and his team, I give
Chris Lasavita as campaign manager and Susie Wiles, his deputy campaign manager, heck of a lot of
credit. I mean, Trump wasn't known for his discipline in 2016 or 2020 as a candidate.
This time he's been very disciplined all the way through the primary process and particularly
after the debate. The old Trump would have sort of stepped on that story and thrown Joe Biden a
lifeline. He didn't he let it hit that story lasted two full weeks because Trump was silent
because Trump was silent and it was devastating and destabilizing for the Biden campaign. I don't
think they'll recover. I mean, I think he did, you know, in his performance before NATO and his
hour long taking of questions from reporters, aggressive questions from some of the most
aggressive reporters in the business, you know, and so I think the that that's I think a non a
non issue. But what I will say is that from last Thursday, it's been 154 days as of last Thursday
where Trump stood before reporters and took questions. When is that going to end? Because
again, it's that discipline. I mean, I totally get it. But once he gets in front of reporters,
like it goes out the window for sure because he gets defensive. He gets angry. He says terrible
things. And that's, you know, and so we're going to have to see at some point he's going to have
to do an interview with you all at some point because he hasn't 160 days. When you you mentioned
the violent rhetoric and we've we've heard a lot of rhetoric on this is a true both sides. There
have been Democrats saying that, you know, Trump is the next Hitler project 2025 in the dictator
for a day. And we've heard Trump use violent rhetoric about, you know, probably stand by Biden
said put him in the bullseye. So I'm blaming Biden for what happened Thursday. But it's been
it's not just one party that's used rhetoric that is inflammatory. Correct. In the last few years.
The reason I bring this up is today I heard from both Newt Gingrich speaking to the Wisconsin
delegation at the breakfast and from Ramis Waimi at the Heritage Foundation who both said we were
within a couple inches of a possible civil war. Is that not inflammatory in and of itself to
say that if the bullet had hit him and killed Donald Trump that we would be in a civil war? I
mean, is that a possibility or is it even responsible to mention that as an alternative?
I would have preferred they not say it that way. I think I think America I'm not sure how we would
have recovered if if the president had former president had been assassinated. I mean,
we we're too young to know when that happened 1963. So I'm hoping that we never see that in our
lifetime or in my children's lifetime. It's that would have unbelievable consequences.
And I don't know what those are. I'm not going to speculate on what those may be. I wouldn't have
chosen those words. But I think again, Trump survived literally by centimeters. He's got an
unbelievable opportunity to put some distance between him and Joe Biden on Thursday night.
Are we that close? Were we that close to civil war?
I think it was if you looked at, you know, if you looked at the internet for, you know,
10 appalling minutes after all the stuff happened, it was it was pretty clear that things are ugly
at this point. This mate turned down a little bit. Let's see what the Republicans offer here. If
they offer, you know, if they offer a bold vision of positivity for the future of America, you know,
that might take it down a notch. If it is ugly and nasty and things we've seen in the past, I,
you know, I fear, you know, because again, like we don't want, you know, politics, there's no place
in politics. There's no place in America for violence and there's certainly no place in politics
for it. And, you know, yes, there is inflammatory rhetoric and, you know, there are these are people
in his people's lives at stake. For sure, like the quality, you know, if you're a trans person in
America, you should fear the fact that of the things that Trump said, you know, if you're a woman who
wants to have, you know, abortion rights, you know, you should fear what's going on with the
Republicans because Trump got rid of Roe versus Wade. Is he, you know, is he brag? And so I think
that it's really, really important that stakes are high, but you, you violence is never the answer.
It's not going to be the answer in this election. And hopefully we've seen the last of it.
So we have just a couple minutes left. Let's try and end on a little of a positive out note after
all the necessary touches here. Yeah. What are you looking forward to? What's a positive thing
that you that will come about from this week, either for Milwaukee, the state for Trump, for
the delegates? What are you looking for? I'm obviously most looking forward to Trump's speech on
Thursday night, but I'll tell you my two side lights. I can't wait to hear what Ron DeSantis and
Nikki Haley have to say. I think it was very smart of the Trump team to put those two in the speaking
lineup. They were his strongest competitors in the primary. They bring different things to the
table. I think they help unify the party. So I'm really looking forward to hear what Ron DeSantis
and Nikki Haley have to say. And my guess is their message will be, we got to get this done.
The choice is it's a serious choice. We need to come together. We can't sit home because we don't
necessarily agree with everything our nominee does or says. But that's that's what I'm looking
for is what they have to say. And I think that's going to happen tomorrow night. What are the
positive or bright notes you're looking forward to this week? Well, I'm looking to see the sort of
rhetoric that comes out, you know, on a policy on a policy tip that, you know, convinces independent
voters that they have to stick with the Democratic president. That's the thing that I think is most
important. See what they're talking about up there in terms of the things that are going to make
those voters who are going to decide this election, you know, whether or not it turns them off or
turns them on. I think it's going to turn them off. In terms of Milwaukee, could this be a better
platform in terms of showcasing this city to the country? I mean, the weather, the way the
downtown looks. I mean, what's your impression having both of you being familiar with this city?
I'm proud of Milwaukee. I'm proud of Wisconsin. I'm glad it's here. I wish the Democrats could
actually been here in person in 2020. I think it's good for the city. I think it'll help us attract
other major events like an NBA All-Star game or maybe an MLB All-Star game a second time. We had
one at Miller Park at the beginning. So I think it's great for the city. It's great for the state.
And regardless of which jersey you wear, red or blue, this is a green event. What do you think?
Oh, I obviously agree. This has been a great showcase for Milwaukee. Hopefully it continues
to be a great showcase for Milwaukee. And, you know, go Milwaukee.
All right. Well, we'll leave it there today, Bill. Scott, thank you so much for your insights.
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