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Some can sometimes candidates choose their issues sometimes the issues choose them

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We look at a few items in the news this week from flot cameras to election integrity to the name of a great lake

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This is inside Wisconsin politics

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I'm showing Johnson here with my colleagues on you've been weked in Don Zach Schultz and rich Kramer in Eau Claire

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Hey everyone

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So flot cameras these cameras run by a private company that are used by law enforcement for vehicle

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Surveillance have been one of those slowly building issues in the US. I gotta say I was not

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Terribly aware of them until about April. It seems like they have entered our politics here though as we enter September

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Zach where do they fit when it comes to this year's elections?

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They are the new issue and it feels like they're a build-out from the data center argument this idea of AI

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Surveillance state how in control are we of our own destiny and these really interesting political topics that don't fit into the typical partisan narrative

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So they not only do we have to figure out how do people think about them?

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But the candidates have to figure out

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Where do we think about these issues because they don't fit into the usual pockets where they can say this is a Republican issue?

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This is a Democrat issue. They fall across all of them the idea that

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License plate readers which is essentially what these cameras are have been around for a long time

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Wisconsin doesn't allow them but many other states do red light cameras people have argued about whether those are fair

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Not you can get a ticket in the mail if you've driven through Illinois

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It had to pay a toll and write about the toll camera catching you or your license plate having something on it

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Those are old issues, but the idea now that some data center can just collect all that and automatically track you without any

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Idea that it's happening or people can use it for nefarious purposes or outside of a subpoena is bringing it into legal territory

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It builds off these questions about how involved should our government be when it comes to these and where should our politicians stand?

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And right now what we're seeing is the gubernatorial candidate saying I need to think real quick where I want to be on this because

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This could be the next thing to bite me in the butt in a few weeks

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If I don't have a strong position that falls in line with where my voters are and independent voters

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so on yeah, where are our candidates on these and you know

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What kind of political bedfellows are we seeing here? Yeah?

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I mean as I said, it doesn't fall into these kind of clear political narratives

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And so we are seeing kind of both candidates much like the data center issue kind of use this to go after one another

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So in particular Tom Tiffany this week has been trying to call David Crowley big brother David Crowley

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so first he was data center David Crowley knows big brother because of

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The ways in which flock was used in Milwaukee County for his part David count David David Crowley is now trying to

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Reduce the use of them in Milwaukee County. There's been changes to the policy in Milwaukee City as well

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And so both

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Candidates are really trying to kind of leverage people's feelings on both the right and the left sort of against this tool for their own political

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Rich it strikes me that there is not a really clean

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Line of where conservative stands on this, you know, there's not a Republican position when it comes to flock cameras

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What's the sort of spectrum of where they stand on this?

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Yeah, it is surprising because you know, typically you think of the GOP as as

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lockstep with law enforcement and law enforcement has been using this technology for

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Homicide investigations all sorts of things, but we've also seen stories including two in Milwaukee

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Situations where officers are using it for personal reasons or just not for what it's intended unauthorized

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Use and that is what is part of what's getting people really upset

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So on the Republican side, it seems like you've got the more libertarian people who just don't like this idea of

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Surveillance at all you've got some on in the Republican Party that are saying

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Look, this is just another tool. It's been around for a long time

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They don't understand why it's a big deal right now and then you've got Tom Tiffany who's trying to thread that needle as Anya mentioned

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He's been attacking David Crowley claiming that Crowley is all about these things and and is a is a big

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supporter of them Crowley has said they are an important tool, but he said quote unchecked surveillance

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Isn't the answer so that speaks to the limits that the county is putting in place now and with regard to the sort of

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Valence Tiffany's position is kind of interesting. He says he would block state funds

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Going towards shared revenue to local governments

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He would essentially say this money can't be used to purchase these types of cameras or these systems

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Until we have a committee a task force take a look at it

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And that's interesting because in Congress Tiffany has voted to restore or to continue the the FISA

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surveillance which is

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essentially

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warrantless mass surveillance of cell phone conversations text messages electronic communications and that back in its days in the early

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Big political issue, but that's kind of died down somewhat in more recent years

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so we could imagine a different world right rich where

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This issue comes up and Tom Tiffany who's trying to run as this tough on crime candidate

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And wants to say let's not be Milwaukee since he's running in some Milwaukee candidate

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You could definitely imagine a world where he's saying we need to give police every tool that they want to fight crime

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Has there been any hint of that in what Tom Tiffany's saying?

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Well, he's he's essentially not saying he's gonna take this tool away, but he wants to put more safeguards in place

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Just in my social media stream

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Last night I saw two posts back-to-back on Twitter

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And one was Tiffany

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Calling David Crowley big brother Crowley or you know flock camera Crowley and the next post was someone with Tiffany's campaign

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Talking about a third-party ad highlighting the the fights in the melee

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We saw at the state fair and talk about talking about how

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Crowley is soft on crime, and it just struck me as as kind of ironic because you're saying he's

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Land person uses but also soft on crime. So which isn't is there something

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Zach about Wisconsin's politics being sort of a little libertarian that makes this issue different than then in other states

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I mean, I think about you kind of referenced it there

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But there has been a push for years to have red light cameras here and that has been defeated in the legislature every time

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You know there was a time in the

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More distant past when there was resistance to giving police the ability to write tickets for not wearing a seat belt here is

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Wisconsin kind of a unique place when it comes to issues like flock

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Potentially is and there's the history that goes about your individual liberties a member of the motorcycle helmet issue in Wisconsin

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Being the home of Harley Davidson you didn't have to wear a helmet in Wisconsin for a long time

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And there were debates about whether it was okay to ban the use of cell phones and cars

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And there was already laws that covered that all these things that we've covered at the Capitol over the years

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And there is this mentality that we don't go too far or wait to see where other states go first

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And then figure out if it makes sense for Wisconsin

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And there's a lot of independence that just don't like the idea of being watched or being

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Followed and a lot of these came from like the sci-fi movies that we watched as kids that are now in reality

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And it's scary for some people because we've been trained for decades that when these things happen

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It's the bad times and they're happening now

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So people are hearing it from both the left and the right that hey

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This isn't what I signed up for even if it is a tool that has helped law enforcement

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track down people that have committed crimes the question is does it go too far and in this era of

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Bursting in the cities the question of whether police are going to come through your door. There's been left and right debates over

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warrantless

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Breaking into apartments to arrest people then they got the wrong door and all sorts of things that go beyond this where people are just scared of

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Hey, what if they get it wrong? I don't trust AI. They can't even repeat my my answer into my phone correctly

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How are they going to get this right when it comes to arresting someone?

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On yet, do we have any evidence that this is going to be an issue that moves people in November is or are people going to be voting on flock?

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You know, I don't know if in the same way that the data center issue is you know

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Kind of a rich text of an issue that a lot of people can read many different sort of problems or concerns into

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Flock it seems a little bit narrower and so I think it'll be up to the candidates to really try to

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Connect concerns with flock to other things in order to drive that

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So one of the arguments we've seen in other states because Wisconsin is not the only state kind of grappling with this right now

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Is that these contracts are very expensive?

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And so at a time that a lot of communities are really struggling and certainly a lot of people are really struggling financially

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And then your your town, you know, maybe can't pave your potholes

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But has a ten million dollar flock contract that is a connection that I think will register with voters

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I'm not sure if this issue in and of itself just the kind of AI and surveillance aspect will necessarily sway voters

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But as we always say, you only need to sway a few in Wisconsin to win the election

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Sure, I do feel like on something like this

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I have to take a step back sometimes because you know, we're journalists. We see a new issue out there

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We don't know how people are going to respond so exciting, you know, we feel like this must be the next big thing

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Marquette had that poll last week asking people about, you know, their most important issues

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5% said data centers and it was like about around 40% or so

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Plus that said the cost of living so I think the old issues may be still carry a little bit more weight

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We did get some other news this week that feels a little more familiar. There's an investigation

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CNN reported being launched by the Department of Homeland Security into

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non-citizen voter fraud in nine states including Wisconsin rich. Tell us about that

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Yeah, so this comes from an internal memo from the federal government that CNN obtained

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It listed the states of course, Wisconsin also George and Pennsylvania those two got my attention as well

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plans for a big investigation into non-citizen voting fraudulent voting ahead of the election and

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Traditionally, you know, this is what CNN reported historically the Department of Justice doesn't

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Launch these sorts of big announcements right before

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Intellectual just as a matter of kind of it's not a formal policy, but just best practice

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Department of Homeland Security doesn't have to follow that and it's got its own investigative unit that is going to be doing this work

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But the backdrop here is that president Donald Trump has been

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You know making these broad claims without any evidence that there was massive voter fraud in 2020

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And that was why he lost the election to president Joe Biden

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and since then, you know more recently we see the

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Wisconsin I mean the US Department of Justice is suing Wisconsin to force us to force the state to turn over

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documents and they're saying well, there could be

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Fraud we need to check and we're not sure Wisconsin is checking. That's the gist of the argument and

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You know the DOJ has sued dozens of other states as well

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They haven't won a single case and also the US Postal Service is has finalized a policy that would essentially

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Tell its people to not send absentee ballots to people who aren't on these federal lists

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That is held up in court right now, but it all serves as kind of this

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backdrop of of what's happening with regard to this latest investigation news reported by CNN and

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Anya I can't think we've gotten kind of used to hearing about these types of investigations now even if they don't go anywhere

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Is there anything you know particularly unusual about this one though in terms of who's leading it?

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Yeah, I mean we've certainly as rich said there has been this kind of steady drumbeat since 2020

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It's the water that we swim in is this kind of allegations of election fraud

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I think at this point in my sleep I could type out the list of sort of nonpartisan and partisan investigations that all showed

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There was no election fraud, but that has not diminished the claims coming from the Trump administration

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What makes this so different is that this is DHS is like an arm of DHS that normally goes after

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human traffickers drug smuggling this kind of thing and they are looking into non-citizen voting

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Which is essentially a thing that does not happen. It is against state law. It's against federal law

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But we've been hearing sort of claims around the the possibility of this for a long time

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Wisconsin has has looked to pass a constitutional amendment about this, but now using this kind of

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Quite militarized quite intensive arm of the government to go after it

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First of all, they don't sort of have to follow DOJ guidance around what you can do around an election and I'll note

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You know, we're less than two months out from our election

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DOJ has guidance that says don't do really intense investigative things unless you absolutely have to do this close to an election because it can chill voting

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Etc DHS doesn't have to follow any of that and then meanwhile as they've been ramping up this action

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They've been saying at one point. They said that they found 250,000 non-citizens who are registered to vote in four states

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And then upon further investigation they've released a hundred and eighty

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ID numbers tied to people. They won't give any more information

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So they're kind of just at the very least

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Significantly muddying the waters with a huge amount of resources from the federal government again going into these critical midterm elections

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Zach, I don't feel like there's been a November election that goes by when there isn't some election issue that is

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You know tied up in the courts or fought over in the courts or in the court of a public opinion

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Is this one the big one in your 2026 or will we forget about this in a few months?

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Well in a few months, it'll still be being brought up because no matter what happens afterward someone's gonna cry foul

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The the question is of all the things that rich listed off

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And there's a lot of different avenues in which the Trump administration is clearly pursuing to push their narrative of false voting or fraud

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Which as we must repeat every time there is no evidence that has ever existed or does exist

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It does not change the outcome of any elections anywhere

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But that doesn't stop them from putting it out into the public consciousness and there's these the is it the postal service potentially?

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Not delivering ballots. Well, obviously that would have a tremendous impact on voting in Wisconsin

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That one seems like the courts are gonna hold it up. It seems less likely to come to fruition

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We've heard rumors from more than a year that Trump's gonna send ice in around the polls to try and scare voters

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There was kind of hand-waved away by a lot of Republicans saying no, of course that wouldn't happen

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This is America, you know that that's just you know

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People have not wanted to look too deeply into what could happen because it's never happened in American history before

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So there are legitimate fears that there could be law enforcement there at certain poll sites in certain swing states

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And we can all guess which ones they are that might influence the outcome of election

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The question is will it actually happen and then who will be the one crying fall afterwards about what that actually means in deterring voters

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Literally keeping voters from coming away

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But these kind of stories do come up every single cycle the question is will we see people with guns outside polls that represent the federal government?

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That's Gareaway voters. That's a big question

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Turning to something completely different and something I definitely did not see coming as we enter this, you know

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The home stretch of the election the president renamed a great lake

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According to an executive order from Lake Ontario to Lake America

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Anya when that happens

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People react to it candidates have to react to it. It's expected. What are our candidates saying about the president doing this?

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Well, most interestingly is Tom Tiffany again a close ally of President Trump and he essentially said

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I don't know that I like this. He said you know

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He sort of turned into a joke. He said unless we're changing Lake Michigan to Lake Wisconsin

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Otherwise, I don't think this is a good idea

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And so that allows him to put a little bit of air between himself and President Trump

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But on an issue that is not super from a policy standpoint not necessarily a super impactful decision

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What it is is kind of one of these more ostentatious decisions that Trump often likes to make or maybe a

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distracting kind of moment during a time like this

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So it allows Tiffany to put that air between them, but not necessarily on an issue that you know, it's very consequential

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And David Carly said oh come on

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This is the one that you picked to differentiate with the president on

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Zach just real quick as we wrap up here any sense that voters will take note of this in November

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I can't imagine this being the deciding issue for someone in an election

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But I'm sure there's one person out of three million voters that will say this is what matters to me most and they're probably a sailor

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Going after that sailor boat

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Crucial demographic in Wisconsin

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Still looking at two on the clothes

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Okay, thanks

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Sometimes can't but that word sometimes never knew

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Sometimes candidates choose their issues sometimes the issues choose them

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We look at a few items in the news this week from flot cameras to election integrity to the name of a great lake

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