1 00:00:00,030 --> 00:00:01,030 Animals. 2 00:00:01,650 --> 00:00:03,549 This system of testing is 3 00:00:03,550 --> 00:00:04,449 broken. 4 00:00:04,450 --> 00:00:06,189 It's been broken for a very long 5 00:00:06,190 --> 00:00:07,190 time. 6 00:00:08,230 --> 00:00:10,609 The data show that in more than 90% 7 00:00:10,610 --> 00:00:12,929 of cases where a new drug 8 00:00:12,930 --> 00:00:14,909 passes muster in 9 00:00:14,910 --> 00:00:17,169 10 years of animal tests. 10 00:00:17,170 --> 00:00:18,909 When it then goes to human clinical 11 00:00:18,910 --> 00:00:20,749 trials, it fails more than 12 00:00:20,750 --> 00:00:22,729 ninety percent of the time. 13 00:00:22,730 --> 00:00:23,929 You know, the NBA playoffs are 14 00:00:23,930 --> 00:00:24,849 happening now. 15 00:00:24,850 --> 00:00:27,369 If you had a free throw shooter Who 16 00:00:27,370 --> 00:00:29,249 hith one of every ten free 17 00:00:29,250 --> 00:00:30,250 throws? 18 00:00:30,540 --> 00:00:32,419 That person, that player would be on 19 00:00:32,420 --> 00:00:33,420 the bench. 20 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:36,059 Why is a 92% 21 00:00:36,060 --> 00:00:37,639 failure rate considered some sort of 22 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,640 success? 23 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,319 And the reality is the world is 24 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,939 moving ahead. 25 00:00:42,940 --> 00:00:44,679 We have innovation in every part of 26 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:45,680 our economy, 27 00:00:47,500 --> 00:00:48,619 transportation, communications, 28 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,440 aviation. 29 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,519 Does anything today in any of 30 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,199 those realms look like it did in 31 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,200 1938? 32 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,479 When we pass the federal food drug 33 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,539 and cosmetics act with this animal 34 00:01:01,540 --> 00:01:02,540 testing standard, 35 00:01:03,660 --> 00:01:05,679 no, it does not. 36 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,719 We now have organs on a chip. 37 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,919 These are human cells that 38 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,719 are aggregated in a 39 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,839 microphysiological system to 40 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,799 replicate what a human 41 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,679 liver would do with a drug or 42 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,680 a kidney. 43 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,619 We have organoids. 44 00:01:20,620 --> 00:01:22,479 We have AI that 45 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,539 can look at all of the data that 46 00:01:24,540 --> 00:01:26,499 exists all over the world on a drug. 47 00:01:28,750 --> 00:01:30,689 Quickly deliver outcomes 48 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:32,489 that are understandable and give us 49 00:01:32,490 --> 00:01:34,449 a pathway for safer testing. 50 00:01:35,950 --> 00:01:37,369 The idea that we don't have 51 00:01:37,370 --> 00:01:40,589 alternatives is absurd, 52 00:01:40,590 --> 00:01:42,029 especially when you consider that 53 00:01:42,030 --> 00:01:44,209 the baseline is so 54 00:01:44,210 --> 00:01:45,210 deeply flawed. 55 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:48,789 So we are calling, and I 56 00:01:48,790 --> 00:01:50,389 know Lori has already done this, I 57 00:01:50,390 --> 00:01:51,529 know she's gonna say a word about 58 00:01:51,530 --> 00:01:54,089 this, but we are asking this 59 00:01:54,090 --> 00:01:56,049 federal administration and its 60 00:01:56,050 --> 00:01:58,039 public health agencies. 61 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,499 Who have actually made the most 62 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:02,399 important set of statements ever, 63 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,919 but any administration, 64 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,639 the best statements in moving away 65 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,758 from animal testing, we're asking 66 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:10,659 them to put those principles 67 00:02:10,660 --> 00:02:12,819 into practice, because 68 00:02:12,820 --> 00:02:14,719 we cannot rescue our way out of 69 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,219 these problems. 70 00:02:16,220 --> 00:02:18,319 We need front-end solutions 71 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,679 in order to protect 72 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,559 these animals from 73 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,159 treatment, broadly, that is 74 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,079 unacceptable in our 75 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,499 modern Europe. 76 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:29,839 And when you have superior 77 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,840 alternatives, 78 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,959 you must choose them because 79 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,359 the animals' lives matter. 80 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,239 They matter to them as much as 81 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,339 our lives matter to us. 82 00:02:40,340 --> 00:02:42,299 And before I turn this 83 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:44,159 over to Lori, I just wanna 84 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,559 say that not only are we excited 85 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,459 to work with her and Big 86 00:02:48,460 --> 00:02:50,099 Goat Ranch Rescue, which has done so 87 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:51,059 much important work. 88 00:02:51,060 --> 00:02:52,999 Thank you for all the life-saving 89 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,699 work that you've done. 90 00:02:54,700 --> 00:02:56,679 I wanna thank also our 91 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,209 partners here. 92 00:02:58,210 --> 00:03:00,029 Shannon Keith with Beagle 93 00:03:00,030 --> 00:03:01,989 Freedom Project is not here, but 94 00:03:01,990 --> 00:03:04,609 Shannon does a super job 95 00:03:04,610 --> 00:03:06,929 in caring for beagles in particular, 96 00:03:06,930 --> 00:03:08,769 has protocols that we 97 00:03:08,770 --> 00:03:09,729 will be following. 98 00:03:09,730 --> 00:03:11,009 And I know Lori's standards are 99 00:03:11,010 --> 00:03:13,069 going to be tip-top in terms of 100 00:03:13,070 --> 00:03:15,369 her overseeing 1,000 101 00:03:15,370 --> 00:03:17,909 of the dog moving into adoption. 102 00:03:17,910 --> 00:03:20,129 We have Eileen Ribbons here, 103 00:03:20,130 --> 00:03:21,949 the Wisconsin Puffy Mill Project. 104 00:03:21,950 --> 00:03:23,689 Eileen, thank you for supporting 105 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:24,739 this. 106 00:03:24,740 --> 00:03:26,879 A whole effort in such a meaningful 107 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,459 way and helping with 108 00:03:29,460 --> 00:03:31,699 really every aspect of it. 109 00:03:31,700 --> 00:03:33,639 We are really excited to have 110 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:35,499 Pam McLeod-Smith from the 111 00:03:35,500 --> 00:03:37,359 Dane County Humane Society 112 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,419 and thank you for your leadership 113 00:03:39,420 --> 00:03:41,659 at a fantastic organization 114 00:03:41,660 --> 00:03:44,039 and for the 500 dogs 115 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,379 at the Center for Humane Economy 116 00:03:45,380 --> 00:03:47,199 will be ultimately 117 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,079 responsible for staging that's 118 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,999 going to occur at the County Humane 119 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,289 Society up here. 120 00:03:53,290 --> 00:03:55,329 And I also want 121 00:03:55,330 --> 00:03:57,149 to note their involvement 122 00:03:57,150 --> 00:03:58,929 with the Wisconsin Federation of 123 00:03:58,930 --> 00:04:00,189 Humane Societies. 124 00:04:00,190 --> 00:04:02,049 And I want to also shout out Paul 125 00:04:02,050 --> 00:04:04,069 Collins, our Wisconsin state 126 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:05,429 director. 127 00:04:05,430 --> 00:04:06,649 Paul, where are you? 128 00:04:06,650 --> 00:04:07,589 There you are. 129 00:04:07,590 --> 00:04:09,429 And finally, I want thank the 130 00:04:09,430 --> 00:04:11,809 former chair of 131 00:04:11,810 --> 00:04:13,369 the board of the Dane County Humane 132 00:04:13,370 --> 00:04:15,209 Society and a board member 133 00:04:15,210 --> 00:04:17,049 of Animal Wellness Action, which 134 00:04:17,050 --> 00:04:18,648 is the other organization that I 135 00:04:18,649 --> 00:04:20,549 lead, Uh, Joseph, 136 00:04:20,550 --> 00:04:22,529 do it. He was 137 00:04:22,530 --> 00:04:24,449 the attorney on a 138 00:04:24,450 --> 00:04:26,489 pro bono basis who negotiated this 139 00:04:26,490 --> 00:04:28,289 agreement talking with me and Laurie 140 00:04:28,290 --> 00:04:29,290 daily and 141 00:04:30,410 --> 00:04:32,029 Joseph thank you for your 142 00:04:32,030 --> 00:04:34,149 outstanding work and this really 143 00:04:34,150 --> 00:04:36,109 exciting outcome for one 144 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:38,109 of the people's Here in Dane 145 00:04:38,110 --> 00:04:40,209 County. So Laurie, thank 146 00:04:40,210 --> 00:04:42,049 you again, and I'm looking forward 147 00:04:42,050 --> 00:04:43,050 to hearing your thoughts 148 00:04:46,180 --> 00:04:48,299 So hello, I am Laurie 149 00:04:48,300 --> 00:04:51,619 Simmons, L-A-U-R-E-E 150 00:04:51,620 --> 00:04:54,039 S-I-M-M O-N-S, 151 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,119 founder and president of Big Dog 152 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,239 Branch Rescue, which is 153 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,839 the largest no-kill 154 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:03,039 cage-free rescue in 155 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,359 the United States. 156 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,559 So today is 157 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,499 about doing what is right for 158 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:11,659 the beagles and making sure 159 00:05:11,660 --> 00:05:13,339 these dogs are safe. 160 00:05:13,340 --> 00:05:15,559 From the beginning. 161 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,379 It was critically important 162 00:05:17,380 --> 00:05:19,359 to me, and all of us at 163 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,199 Big Dog Branch, that there 164 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,259 was a real safety net 165 00:05:23,260 --> 00:05:24,979 in place. 166 00:05:24,980 --> 00:05:27,299 We wanted a structured, 167 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:29,199 responsible plan that 168 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,059 guarantees every one 169 00:05:31,060 --> 00:05:33,339 of these dogs is safely 170 00:05:33,340 --> 00:05:35,179 transitioned into 171 00:05:35,180 --> 00:05:37,719 the care of reputable, 172 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,959 fully vetted rescue organizations, 173 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,639 including ourselves. 174 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,879 Places where they will receive 175 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,479 essential medical care, 176 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,039 including space and neuters, 177 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,539 along with love and compassion 178 00:05:52,540 --> 00:05:55,499 that they so deserve. 179 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:57,839 All of this while being prepared 180 00:05:57,840 --> 00:05:59,679 for their future and 181 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,079 loving homes. 182 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,059 At the end of the day, 183 00:06:03,060 --> 00:06:04,779 that's what matters most. 184 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,239 When organizations, 185 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,699 leaders and advocates work 186 00:06:10,700 --> 00:06:13,139 together, Real progress 187 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:15,019 is possible, and 188 00:06:15,020 --> 00:06:18,419 that's what this moment represents. 189 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:21,459 Across this entire effort, 190 00:06:21,460 --> 00:06:23,519 all 1,500 of these 191 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,339 beagles are 192 00:06:25,340 --> 00:06:27,199 now beginning a 193 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,419 new chapter, one focused 194 00:06:29,420 --> 00:06:32,459 on care, stability, 195 00:06:32,460 --> 00:06:34,279 socialization, and 196 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:36,479 making sure every dog 197 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,859 has the best possible 198 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:39,860 outcome. 199 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,839 Several hundred of these 200 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:44,679 dogs will be going to 201 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,499 our two Big Dog Ranch 202 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:48,399 campuses, one 203 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,379 in Palm Beach County, one 204 00:06:50,380 --> 00:06:52,419 in Alabama, 205 00:06:52,420 --> 00:06:54,619 with the remaining dogs placed 206 00:06:54,620 --> 00:06:56,559 with our rescue partners 207 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,959 across the country. 208 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,879 Organizations we know 209 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,419 and trust. 210 00:07:02,420 --> 00:07:04,339 These dogs are going to 211 00:07:04,340 --> 00:07:05,679 need time. 212 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,619 They will need patience. 213 00:07:07,620 --> 00:07:09,779 They world needs support as 214 00:07:09,780 --> 00:07:10,899 they adjust. 215 00:07:10,900 --> 00:07:13,019 To environments they've 216 00:07:13,020 --> 00:07:15,079 never experienced before. 217 00:07:16,540 --> 00:07:18,759 They will learn kindness and 218 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,799 what it means to be loved, 219 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,939 how to walk on a leash and 220 00:07:22,940 --> 00:07:24,799 see sunshine and 221 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,259 grass beneath their feet. 222 00:07:27,420 --> 00:07:29,919 We're not just moving dogs, 223 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,779 we are preparing them 224 00:07:31,780 --> 00:07:34,419 for life. We 225 00:07:34,420 --> 00:07:36,359 appreciate the cooperation 226 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,519 and coordination that 227 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,229 made this possible. 228 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:42,369 Especially the work done 229 00:07:42,370 --> 00:07:44,369 alongside Center for 230 00:07:44,370 --> 00:07:46,209 Humane Economy. 231 00:07:46,210 --> 00:07:48,069 We worked together for almost 232 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:49,929 a month to ensure the right 233 00:07:49,930 --> 00:07:52,569 plan was in place. 234 00:07:52,570 --> 00:07:54,529 This is what happens when 235 00:07:54,530 --> 00:07:57,369 you have collaborative engagement, 236 00:07:57,370 --> 00:07:59,369 a shared goal, you 237 00:07:59,370 --> 00:08:01,429 get solutions that save 238 00:08:01,430 --> 00:08:02,430 lives. 239 00:08:03,610 --> 00:08:05,589 I also want to acknowledge the 240 00:08:05,590 --> 00:08:08,509 role that animal Advocates 241 00:08:08,510 --> 00:08:09,959 and activists. 242 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,939 And the public had in 243 00:08:11,940 --> 00:08:12,859 this. 244 00:08:12,860 --> 00:08:14,819 The courage of these 245 00:08:14,820 --> 00:08:16,819 animal advocates and 246 00:08:16,820 --> 00:08:19,119 everyone who spoke up 247 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,539 and made this possible. 248 00:08:21,540 --> 00:08:23,519 It's a powerful step 249 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,559 forward towards 250 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,380 a much larger mission. 251 00:08:30,330 --> 00:08:32,808 This is exactly what Secretary 252 00:08:32,809 --> 00:08:35,609 of Health and Human Services, 253 00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:36,489 Robert F. 254 00:08:36,490 --> 00:08:37,689 Kennedy Jr. 255 00:08:37,690 --> 00:08:39,928 Has been advocating for 256 00:08:39,929 --> 00:08:41,949 his Make America Healthy 257 00:08:41,950 --> 00:08:43,869 Again agenda. 258 00:08:43,870 --> 00:08:45,689 It's about using the 259 00:08:45,690 --> 00:08:47,609 best, most accurate 260 00:08:47,610 --> 00:08:49,949 science available to 261 00:08:49,950 --> 00:08:51,809 protect human and 262 00:08:51,810 --> 00:08:52,810 animal health. 263 00:08:53,990 --> 00:08:55,829 And that includes how we 264 00:08:55,830 --> 00:08:57,809 conduct research because 265 00:08:57,810 --> 00:08:59,539 the reality is... 266 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:01,599 Science has changed. 267 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,419 There's growing consensus 268 00:09:03,420 --> 00:09:05,739 that traditional animal 269 00:09:05,740 --> 00:09:07,759 testing models, including 270 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,639 those using dogs, 271 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,239 are not consistently predictive 272 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,499 of human outcomes. 273 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:16,759 In fact, even the FDA 274 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,019 has acknowledged that 275 00:09:19,020 --> 00:09:21,059 the vast majority of 276 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:22,959 drugs that succeed 277 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,239 in animal testing never 278 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,559 really translate successfully 279 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:28,560 to humans. 280 00:09:30,220 --> 00:09:32,099 The NIH has also 281 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:34,299 acknowledged that animal models 282 00:09:34,300 --> 00:09:36,259 may not reliably 283 00:09:36,260 --> 00:09:38,139 replicate complex 284 00:09:38,140 --> 00:09:40,079 human diseases, which 285 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,899 can limit their predictive 286 00:09:41,900 --> 00:09:44,539 value in drug development. 287 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:46,819 And it's why we are pushing 288 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:48,859 so hard towards 289 00:09:48,860 --> 00:09:50,879 newer, more reliable 290 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,739 ways of testing 291 00:09:52,740 --> 00:09:54,719 that are based on human 292 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,839 biology and give us 293 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,940 far more accurate results. 294 00:10:00,630 --> 00:10:02,829 This isn't just about animal 295 00:10:02,830 --> 00:10:04,809 welfare, it's about better 296 00:10:04,810 --> 00:10:06,629 science, it's a about 297 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:08,869 smarter, more humane 298 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:10,729 innovation without 299 00:10:10,730 --> 00:10:12,709 causing harm to 300 00:10:12,710 --> 00:10:14,709 innocent animals. 301 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:16,549 I'm calling on RFK 302 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:18,409 Junior to open 303 00:10:18,410 --> 00:10:20,629 the Office of Research 304 00:10:20,630 --> 00:10:23,369 Innovation, Validation 305 00:10:23,370 --> 00:10:25,609 and Application, 306 00:10:25,610 --> 00:10:26,610 ARRIVA. 307 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:29,529 To advance non-animal 308 00:10:29,530 --> 00:10:31,850 biomedical research methods, 309 00:10:32,970 --> 00:10:35,029 we need continued action 310 00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:37,309 by HHS, 311 00:10:37,310 --> 00:10:40,009 NIH, and the FDA. 312 00:10:40,010 --> 00:10:42,229 Continued investment in 313 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:44,449 full implementation of 314 00:10:44,450 --> 00:10:46,969 programs that will accelerate 315 00:10:46,970 --> 00:10:49,119 this transition 316 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,829 because progress only 317 00:10:51,830 --> 00:10:53,929 matters if they follow 318 00:10:53,930 --> 00:10:55,839 through on their words. 319 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,580 They have publicly stated. 320 00:10:59,260 --> 00:11:01,139 Today is an important step 321 00:11:01,140 --> 00:11:02,999 forward because it 322 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,019 is part of a larger shift 323 00:11:05,020 --> 00:11:07,139 in how we protect the 324 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:09,179 animals and how we approach 325 00:11:09,180 --> 00:11:11,339 science and how take 326 00:11:11,340 --> 00:11:13,499 responsibility for 327 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:15,839 doing things more humanely 328 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:16,840 and better. 329 00:11:18,460 --> 00:11:20,539 At Big Dog Ranch Rescue and 330 00:11:20,540 --> 00:11:23,839 Center for Humane Economy Together, 331 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,999 we are committed to working... 332 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,079 And pushing this agenda forward, 333 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,179 humanely and collaboratively. 334 00:11:32,180 --> 00:11:34,339 And most important of all, 335 00:11:34,340 --> 00:11:36,279 today, these dogs have 336 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,639 a future. 337 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,739 Thank you to everyone who 338 00:11:39,740 --> 00:11:40,800 made this possible. 339 00:11:45,340 --> 00:11:47,239 You know, Lorraine, when you were 340 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,759 speaking, it made me think of, you 341 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,419 know, I've got my iPhone 17. 342 00:11:53,660 --> 00:11:56,159 I came in here with a crank phone or 343 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,179 a flip phone. 344 00:11:57,180 --> 00:11:58,719 You would think I was so incredibly 345 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,019 old fashioned. 346 00:12:00,020 --> 00:12:00,879 A lot of young people, if you have 347 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,100 the iPhone 13, 348 00:12:03,420 --> 00:12:05,199 you're archaic. 349 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,339 How can we possibly think that 350 00:12:07,340 --> 00:12:09,419 this method that was 351 00:12:09,420 --> 00:12:11,319 really enshrined in the 1930s is a 352 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,979 good way to do science? 353 00:12:12,980 --> 00:12:14,639 We have to get beyond it. 354 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,199 I have beagles. 355 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,419 I've had beagles for a long time. 356 00:12:19,420 --> 00:12:22,349 They are just the most trusting. 357 00:12:22,350 --> 00:12:25,469 Incredible creatures and 358 00:12:25,470 --> 00:12:27,329 their own trust is 359 00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:29,189 exploited when they're used in 360 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:30,629 a laboratory setting. 361 00:12:30,630 --> 00:12:32,709 That's why they're use is because 362 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:34,709 they're so compliant, they're so 363 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:36,529 obedient in this way. 364 00:12:37,870 --> 00:12:39,789 I want to ask Pam, in 365 00:12:39,790 --> 00:12:41,849 terms of the County 366 00:12:41,850 --> 00:12:43,249 Humane Society. 367 00:12:43,250 --> 00:12:45,689 I know people are going to want to, 368 00:12:45,690 --> 00:12:48,789 you know, attain dogs. 369 00:12:48,790 --> 00:12:49,749 We're probably not going to have 370 00:12:49,750 --> 00:12:51,849 enough to go around for the demand, 371 00:12:51,850 --> 00:12:53,369 given the incredible interest in 372 00:12:53,370 --> 00:12:54,709 these animals. 373 00:12:54,710 --> 00:12:56,749 What should people do, Pam, 374 00:12:56,750 --> 00:12:58,729 to signal their 375 00:12:58,730 --> 00:12:59,730 interest? 376 00:13:00,630 --> 00:13:01,289 I'll work it out. 377 00:13:01,290 --> 00:13:02,549 Why don't you come up for a quick 378 00:13:02,550 --> 00:13:03,550 moment? 379 00:13:07,230 --> 00:13:09,209 And joining her is Amy Goodes with 380 00:13:09,210 --> 00:13:10,630 the Van Kelly Humanities Society. 381 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,360 Hi, everybody. 382 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,259 So I am sure 383 00:13:16,260 --> 00:13:17,260 it is. 384 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:21,339 Dane County Humane Society is just 385 00:13:21,340 --> 00:13:23,239 so incredibly excited to be 386 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,419 part of this project. 387 00:13:24,420 --> 00:13:25,599 This has been happening in our 388 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,559 backyard for so long, and 389 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:28,999 so many people have made this 390 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,019 possible today, especially our 391 00:13:31,020 --> 00:13:32,979 partners here with Big Dog Ranch 392 00:13:32,980 --> 00:13:34,799 Rescue and the Center for Humane 393 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,819 Economy. 394 00:13:35,820 --> 00:13:37,679 So Right now our group 395 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:39,719 is going to be staging 500 of 396 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,619 the dogs at the Dane County 397 00:13:41,620 --> 00:13:43,659 Humane Society once Lori's 398 00:13:43,660 --> 00:13:45,939 team gets their dogs off and 399 00:13:45,940 --> 00:13:48,439 out to all of their rescue partners. 400 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,199 So stay tuned on our website at 401 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,199 giveshelter.org slash 402 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,439 originallymegals. 403 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,459 We'll have all the information 404 00:13:54,460 --> 00:13:55,899 there. If people are interested in 405 00:13:55,900 --> 00:13:57,659 adopting they can express their 406 00:13:57,660 --> 00:13:58,819 interest there. 407 00:13:58,820 --> 00:14:00,729 We will of course Gladly accept 408 00:14:00,730 --> 00:14:02,669 donations to take care of these pups 409 00:14:02,670 --> 00:14:04,629 because there's a lot of work to do 410 00:14:04,630 --> 00:14:06,289 in the days ahead to get them ready 411 00:14:06,290 --> 00:14:08,229 for their new homes and 412 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:09,809 we know right now shelters and 413 00:14:09,810 --> 00:14:11,729 rescues everywhere are already full 414 00:14:11,730 --> 00:14:12,969 of animals. 415 00:14:12,970 --> 00:14:14,409 No one group can do this alone 416 00:14:14,410 --> 00:14:15,889 that's why we're networking with our 417 00:14:15,890 --> 00:14:17,889 trusted rescues and partners to 418 00:14:17,890 --> 00:14:19,329 get these dogs spread out throughout 419 00:14:19,330 --> 00:14:21,229 the United States but around 420 00:14:21,230 --> 00:14:23,169 500 of them will be staying in 421 00:14:23,170 --> 00:14:24,869 the Midwest and we're anticipating 422 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:26,749 at least 50 will be up for adoption 423 00:14:26,750 --> 00:14:28,429 at Dane County Humane Society in the 424 00:14:28,430 --> 00:14:29,649 coming weeks. 425 00:14:29,650 --> 00:14:30,969 Great. Thank you guys. 426 00:14:30,970 --> 00:14:32,409 Thank you. Stay up here now. 427 00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:35,789 Yeah, you want to say something with 428 00:14:35,790 --> 00:14:36,790 your dogs, yeah? 429 00:14:37,900 --> 00:14:40,119 So approximately 300 430 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,799 of the dogs will go to 431 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,919 directly to our Big Dog 432 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,279 Ranch Rescue campuses 433 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,099 in Florida and in 434 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:50,339 Alabama. 435 00:14:50,340 --> 00:14:52,439 If anybody is interested 436 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,259 in adopting, 437 00:14:54,260 --> 00:14:56,539 you can go to our website at 438 00:14:56,540 --> 00:14:59,339 bdrr.org, 439 00:14:59,340 --> 00:15:01,339 fill out an application. 440 00:15:01,340 --> 00:15:03,219 They will not be ready right 441 00:15:03,220 --> 00:15:05,359 away. We want to do this right. 442 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,239 We want to give them the time 443 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,499 to transition, 444 00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:11,539 get them spayed and neutered. 445 00:15:11,540 --> 00:15:13,759 We will also be releasing 446 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,619 our rescue partners 447 00:15:15,620 --> 00:15:17,519 where our dogs, other 448 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,619 dogs are going throughout the 449 00:15:19,620 --> 00:15:20,739 nation. 450 00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:22,079 Sure there's going to be something 451 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,179 in your state and we 452 00:15:24,180 --> 00:15:26,119 will be releasing that 453 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,099 probably next Thursday 454 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:29,639 or Friday. 455 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,699 All of us will need your support 456 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:32,779 with donations. 457 00:15:32,780 --> 00:15:35,969 This is a major undertaking. 458 00:15:35,970 --> 00:15:37,809 All of the rescue partners that 459 00:15:37,810 --> 00:15:40,349 we send out to will also. 460 00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:42,249 So I hope you open your hearts 461 00:15:42,250 --> 00:15:44,469 and your homes to make 462 00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:46,309 this possible for 463 00:15:46,310 --> 00:15:48,269 a great future for all these 464 00:15:48,270 --> 00:15:49,270 dogs. Thank you. 465 00:15:51,490 --> 00:15:53,329 Great. And I just want to say 466 00:15:53,330 --> 00:15:54,569 in closing, before we take 467 00:15:54,570 --> 00:15:56,969 questions, I want to underscore 468 00:15:56,970 --> 00:15:59,169 a few of the bigger picture requests 469 00:15:59,170 --> 00:16:01,249 that we want. 470 00:16:01,250 --> 00:16:03,229 Everyone understand where this issue 471 00:16:03,230 --> 00:16:05,149 needs to go to protect beagles 472 00:16:05,150 --> 00:16:06,969 and other animals all across the 473 00:16:06,970 --> 00:16:08,769 country in major institutions and 474 00:16:08,770 --> 00:16:10,689 with tens of billions of dollars 475 00:16:10,690 --> 00:16:12,229 spent by our federal government to 476 00:16:12,230 --> 00:16:13,269 drive research. 477 00:16:13,270 --> 00:16:14,549 National Institutes of Health is the 478 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:16,429 largest research funder in 479 00:16:16,430 --> 00:16:17,569 the world. 480 00:16:17,570 --> 00:16:19,489 So we're asking for an NIH 481 00:16:19,490 --> 00:16:21,489 funding ban on experiments that 482 00:16:21,490 --> 00:16:23,709 involve the use of dogs and 483 00:16:23,710 --> 00:16:25,569 primates. Of course, here in Dane 484 00:16:25,570 --> 00:16:27,189 County, you have a primate research 485 00:16:27,190 --> 00:16:29,409 facility, one of the 486 00:16:29,410 --> 00:16:30,950 eight or so primary facilities. 487 00:16:33,330 --> 00:16:34,229 The Department of Health and Human 488 00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:35,769 Services already said that the 489 00:16:35,770 --> 00:16:37,669 Oregon Health Sciences University 490 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:39,569 primate facility, which is the 491 00:16:39,570 --> 00:16:40,949 biggest primate facility they want 492 00:16:40,950 --> 00:16:43,369 to help fund that 493 00:16:43,370 --> 00:16:45,349 program to turn it into 494 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:46,829 a primates sanctuary. 495 00:16:46,830 --> 00:16:49,429 As an incredible template. 496 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:51,509 Second, we want the FDA to 497 00:16:51,510 --> 00:16:53,449 finalize the rulemaking for the FDA 498 00:16:53,450 --> 00:16:55,389 Modernization Act 2.0 so we can 499 00:16:55,390 --> 00:16:57,629 race ahead into this new 500 00:16:57,630 --> 00:16:59,089 environment. The Senate passed it 501 00:16:59,090 --> 00:17:00,289 unanimously, the U.S. 502 00:17:00,290 --> 00:17:02,189 Senate. The House leadership is 503 00:17:02,190 --> 00:17:04,108 delaying and dilly-dallying, 504 00:17:04,109 --> 00:17:05,829 and it should do so no longer. 505 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,799 Again tied in with what's 506 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,459 happening at the 507 00:17:12,460 --> 00:17:14,539 primate centers which are funded 508 00:17:14,540 --> 00:17:16,578 by the United States, moving 509 00:17:16,579 --> 00:17:18,539 them towards sanctuaries, 510 00:17:18,540 --> 00:17:21,098 and then tying that in, 511 00:17:21,099 --> 00:17:22,179 and Secretary Kennedy already spoke 512 00:17:22,180 --> 00:17:24,358 about this, the idea of banning 513 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,239 primate imports. 514 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,358 We are capturing primates 515 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,599 in the wild in Cambodia 516 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,519 and other nations, and 517 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,359 we are importing tens of 518 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:35,139 thousands of them into the States 519 00:17:35,140 --> 00:17:37,549 for experiments that don't work. 520 00:17:37,550 --> 00:17:39,469 There's zoonotic disease risks and 521 00:17:39,470 --> 00:17:40,989 other risks. 522 00:17:40,990 --> 00:17:42,310 So with that, 523 00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:45,689 my colleague Joseph Grove 524 00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:47,869 is here and 525 00:17:47,870 --> 00:17:49,809 I'm gonna take questions here 526 00:17:49,810 --> 00:17:51,669 first, but then we'll get some 527 00:17:51,670 --> 00:17:53,169 in the queue there. 528 00:17:53,170 --> 00:17:55,149 So please just raise your hand and 529 00:17:55,150 --> 00:17:56,769 I'll apply a guess starting here. 530 00:17:56,770 --> 00:17:58,509 So how long has this deal been in 531 00:17:58,510 --> 00:17:59,749 the making and how many dogs are 532 00:17:59,750 --> 00:18:00,750 left? 533 00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:05,549 What's that? 534 00:18:05,550 --> 00:18:07,569 Yeah, well, let me just 535 00:18:07,570 --> 00:18:10,289 say that with 536 00:18:10,290 --> 00:18:12,149 Joe 537 00:18:12,150 --> 00:18:13,969 Good, our attorney, we've been 538 00:18:13,970 --> 00:18:15,849 having discussions for 539 00:18:15,850 --> 00:18:17,389 quite a long time. 540 00:18:17,390 --> 00:18:19,289 And I'll say that it preceded 541 00:18:19,290 --> 00:18:21,229 some of the activity 542 00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:23,289 that occurred on the grounds 543 00:18:23,290 --> 00:18:24,409 of Richland. 544 00:18:24,410 --> 00:18:26,229 We have been focused on this 545 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:28,109 idea for a long, long 546 00:18:28,110 --> 00:18:30,849 time, but it's a difficult 547 00:18:30,850 --> 00:18:31,850 process. 548 00:18:33,140 --> 00:18:34,999 We don't know exactly how 549 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,859 many animals, but my best guess 550 00:18:36,860 --> 00:18:38,719 estimate, you know, just based on 551 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,959 what I hear, you know perhaps 552 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,019 500 are remaining, but I don't 553 00:18:43,020 --> 00:18:45,059 now. And that is not something 554 00:18:45,060 --> 00:18:46,879 that Richland disclosed to us in 555 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,639 any specific circumstance. 556 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,640 Right behind you. 557 00:18:51,689 --> 00:18:53,509 Um, how much was the deal all 558 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:55,429 that you guys had to strike to 559 00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:56,449 rescue these dogs? 560 00:18:56,450 --> 00:18:57,429 I know you said you guys both came 561 00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:58,249 together for that 562 00:18:58,250 --> 00:18:59,989 Yeah, that's a confidential matter 563 00:18:59,990 --> 00:19:02,529 and and we're 564 00:19:02,530 --> 00:19:05,049 you know as as nonprofit 565 00:19:05,050 --> 00:19:07,009 organizations we husband our 566 00:19:07,010 --> 00:19:08,889 resources, but 567 00:19:08,890 --> 00:19:10,929 we wanted to take this 568 00:19:10,930 --> 00:19:12,969 moment in the period between 569 00:19:12,970 --> 00:19:14,889 present and July 1st to get as many 570 00:19:14,890 --> 00:19:16,729 dogs out as I said, 571 00:19:16,730 --> 00:19:18,949 we are very 572 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:20,769 excited to continue our discussions 573 00:19:20,770 --> 00:19:22,709 with Richling and to find 574 00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:24,669 an exit ramp 575 00:19:24,670 --> 00:19:25,959 for the remaining dogs. 576 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,899 Just to make sure so you can't say 577 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:29,149 how much you did pay for the dog. 578 00:19:29,150 --> 00:19:30,109 Yes, we did. 579 00:19:30,110 --> 00:19:31,369 But you can't see how much you 580 00:19:31,370 --> 00:19:31,370 can... 581 00:19:31,371 --> 00:19:33,299 Correct, by the terms of the 582 00:19:33,300 --> 00:19:33,619 agreement. 583 00:19:33,620 --> 00:19:34,579 Brian, would you repeat the 584 00:19:34,580 --> 00:19:35,459 questions as they're asked? 585 00:19:35,460 --> 00:19:36,160 Oh, yes, I will. 586 00:19:36,161 --> 00:19:37,729 Oh, yes, I will. 587 00:19:37,730 --> 00:19:39,589 The question that I just 588 00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:42,889 answered was there 589 00:19:42,890 --> 00:19:44,109 was a monetary payment. 590 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:46,409 Is that correct? 591 00:19:46,410 --> 00:19:47,669 And I said, yes there was. 592 00:19:47,670 --> 00:19:49,469 A monetary payment by the terms of 593 00:19:49,470 --> 00:19:51,429 our agreement between the 594 00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:52,529 Center for Revenue and Economy, Big 595 00:19:52,530 --> 00:19:54,129 Cone Grants Rescue, original forms. 596 00:19:54,130 --> 00:19:55,969 We are prohibited from 597 00:19:55,970 --> 00:19:56,749 discussing that. 598 00:19:56,750 --> 00:19:57,329 Yes, sir. 599 00:19:57,330 --> 00:19:58,649 So I know Bridgeland Farms is 600 00:19:58,650 --> 00:20:00,289 getting a state breeding license by 601 00:20:00,290 --> 00:20:02,149 July 1st, but it does still have a 602 00:20:02,150 --> 00:20:03,989 license through the USDA, which is 603 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:05,809 active until 2028, because I guess 604 00:20:05,810 --> 00:20:06,789 part of it is still concerned with 605 00:20:06,790 --> 00:20:08,389 Bridgelands still being in operation 606 00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:10,029 even after this deal goes through 607 00:20:10,030 --> 00:20:10,829 now. 608 00:20:10,830 --> 00:20:12,769 Yeah, we by the terms 609 00:20:12,770 --> 00:20:14,249 of the agreement, we're really not 610 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:15,549 going to talk too much about 611 00:20:15,550 --> 00:20:16,429 original. There are a lot of other 612 00:20:16,430 --> 00:20:18,729 sources out there that you 613 00:20:18,730 --> 00:20:20,909 can consult in that regard. 614 00:20:20,910 --> 00:20:22,769 But I think you heard from me and 615 00:20:22,770 --> 00:20:24,609 also from Lori that we 616 00:20:24,610 --> 00:20:26,529 want to move on beyond 617 00:20:26,530 --> 00:20:28,409 animal testing all over 618 00:20:28,410 --> 00:20:30,449 the country. We're not picking on 619 00:20:30,450 --> 00:20:32,409 any one institution and 620 00:20:32,410 --> 00:20:33,609 it just doesn't work. 621 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:37,999 You can mention non-human primates. 622 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,799 University of Wisconsin has, in 623 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,779 their most recent USDA annual report 624 00:20:41,780 --> 00:20:43,859 from 2024, more than 1,000 of them, 625 00:20:43,860 --> 00:20:46,019 more than 600 involved in 626 00:20:46,020 --> 00:20:48,079 experiments classified as painful 627 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,699 or causing distress. 628 00:20:49,700 --> 00:20:51,619 Any message to University of 629 00:20:51,620 --> 00:20:53,139 Washington, what you would like to 630 00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:54,319 see happen with that letter? 631 00:20:56,700 --> 00:20:59,159 You know, on the biogenetic 632 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,319 tree or closer to 633 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,320 us than dogs. 634 00:21:03,140 --> 00:21:05,039 They, you know share an incredible 635 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,119 percentage of our genetic 636 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:08,059 material. 637 00:21:08,060 --> 00:21:10,359 They, clearly are conscious. 638 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:12,239 They have social needs. 639 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,119 They have specific behavioral needs 640 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:16,159 as animals who live in 641 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,339 nature and climb trees. 642 00:21:18,340 --> 00:21:19,859 And it's just impossible to 643 00:21:19,860 --> 00:21:21,459 replicate those conditions in a 644 00:21:21,460 --> 00:21:23,259 laboratory animal setting, even the 645 00:21:23,260 --> 00:21:25,179 best sanctuary struggle to 646 00:21:25,180 --> 00:21:26,259 do that. 647 00:21:26,260 --> 00:21:28,219 And again, my comments about 648 00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:30,159 the failure rate don't just apply 649 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,079 to dogs. 650 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,959 And I will note that while 651 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,819 I do believe that the 652 00:21:34,820 --> 00:21:36,239 public health leaders within the 653 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,699 Trump administration have spoken out 654 00:21:37,700 --> 00:21:39,119 more against animal testing than any 655 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:41,159 other administration, the prior 656 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,159 NIH directors have 657 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,219 said that the animal testing model 658 00:21:46,220 --> 00:21:47,479 is broken. 659 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,559 This is not the view of 660 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,159 an animal welfare advocate. 661 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,109 This is the reiterating. 662 00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:55,669 Of an emerging scientific consensus 663 00:21:55,670 --> 00:21:57,429 that animal testing is simply not 664 00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:58,430 reliable. 665 00:21:58,850 --> 00:22:00,329 And when you then compare it to 666 00:22:00,330 --> 00:22:02,069 these new methods with all of the 667 00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:03,469 innovation that's happening every 668 00:22:03,470 --> 00:22:05,469 day, again, we shouldn't be 669 00:22:05,470 --> 00:22:06,549 using crank phones. 670 00:22:06,550 --> 00:22:09,029 We shouldn't using flip phones. 671 00:22:09,030 --> 00:22:10,229 The world is changing. 672 00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:11,269 Let's embrace this. 673 00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:12,270 Was there... 674 00:22:12,820 --> 00:22:14,959 Laura Trump is on the board for 675 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,139 Big Dog Ranch. 676 00:22:16,140 --> 00:22:18,019 I see you obviously posting a video 677 00:22:18,020 --> 00:22:19,279 a couple of weeks ago saying that 678 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,119 Bridgeland had denied 679 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:22,699 a $1 million deal. 680 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:24,159 So it's safe to say that this deal 681 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,719 going through is well over 682 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,039 $1,000,000. Can you give a rough 683 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,219 estimate as a follow-up to that? 684 00:22:29,220 --> 00:22:30,679 What is Laura Trump's role in this? 685 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:30,920 I'm gonna. 686 00:22:30,921 --> 00:22:32,969 I'm going to say no it 687 00:22:32,970 --> 00:22:35,269 was not over that I 688 00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:37,529 can't as our contract 689 00:22:37,530 --> 00:22:39,969 says disclose 690 00:22:39,970 --> 00:22:41,410 the amount um 691 00:22:42,850 --> 00:22:44,749 money was the only way we could 692 00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:46,689 guarantee the safe future 693 00:22:46,690 --> 00:22:48,509 of these dogs we 694 00:22:48,510 --> 00:22:50,389 did not want them to be sold 695 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:52,729 off into other testing 696 00:22:52,730 --> 00:22:54,609 labs so 697 00:22:54,610 --> 00:22:57,009 lots of donors came forward 698 00:22:57,010 --> 00:23:00,029 supporters and organizations 699 00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:02,009 that donated to both of 700 00:23:02,010 --> 00:23:04,129 our organizations 701 00:23:04,130 --> 00:23:06,269 to get these dogs released. 702 00:23:06,270 --> 00:23:08,369 We cannot disclose the 703 00:23:08,370 --> 00:23:10,469 amount, but I can tell you 704 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:12,589 that it was well under 705 00:23:12,590 --> 00:23:14,409 what Laura had put 706 00:23:14,410 --> 00:23:15,729 out there. 707 00:23:15,730 --> 00:23:17,769 Laura is a huge animal 708 00:23:17,770 --> 00:23:18,769 advocate. 709 00:23:18,770 --> 00:23:21,449 We've been working together 710 00:23:21,450 --> 00:23:23,489 since we started to 711 00:23:23,490 --> 00:23:25,809 shut down Greyhound Racing 712 00:23:25,810 --> 00:23:27,659 many, many years ago. 713 00:23:27,660 --> 00:23:29,819 She had three bagels, one 714 00:23:29,820 --> 00:23:32,279 just recently passed away, 715 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,379 but she's a passionate 716 00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:36,399 animal lover and 717 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,499 really was instrumental in 718 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,379 putting the 719 00:23:40,380 --> 00:23:42,319 what we call the strike force 720 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,259 with the DOJ's 721 00:23:44,260 --> 00:23:46,939 office, with Secretary 722 00:23:46,940 --> 00:23:49,579 Rollins from Secretary 723 00:23:49,580 --> 00:23:51,719 of Agriculture and the USDA 724 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,099 and RFK's 725 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,999 office together to 726 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,799 all work together. 727 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,779 To make animal 728 00:23:59,780 --> 00:24:01,299 welfare better. 729 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:03,219 The Trump administration is 730 00:24:03,220 --> 00:24:05,199 very committed to it. 731 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,739 If you want to see more about this, 732 00:24:07,740 --> 00:24:09,899 please tune in to Laura Trump's 733 00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:12,299 show, My View, 734 00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:14,959 Fox News, Saturday night, 735 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,019 9 o'clock Eastern time. 736 00:24:17,020 --> 00:24:19,019 And you'll hear more about her 737 00:24:19,020 --> 00:24:21,379 feelings and her involvement 738 00:24:21,380 --> 00:24:23,059 in this rescue. 739 00:24:24,540 --> 00:24:25,679 Yes, let me get it. 740 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,599 Yes, sir. Let me get back to original 741 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,359 if I can. Both of you mentioned the 742 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:29,919 events over the last six weeks or 743 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,519 so, the activists and the public 744 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,339 pressure. 745 00:24:32,340 --> 00:24:33,779 What role did that play either on 746 00:24:33,780 --> 00:24:35,399 your side or on vigilance side and 747 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,199 getting this deal done? 748 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:37,979 Well, I just. 749 00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:39,879 Speak for myself that we've been in 750 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,699 discussions preceding 751 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:43,039 any of that. 752 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,479 So this has been a long standing 753 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,379 concern of mine 754 00:24:46,380 --> 00:24:47,819 and of the Center for Human Economy. 755 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:49,979 Again, remember, within 756 00:24:49,980 --> 00:24:52,019 18 months of introduction in 757 00:24:52,020 --> 00:24:52,939 Congress, we got the FDA 758 00:24:52,940 --> 00:24:54,819 Modernization Act 2.0 passed 759 00:24:54,820 --> 00:24:56,559 and the beagles were a part of that, 760 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,539 we've being digging into this. 761 00:24:58,540 --> 00:24:59,959 Obviously we've be concerned about 762 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:01,819 the beagle and marshals 763 00:25:01,820 --> 00:25:03,559 bio resources. 764 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,519 So, I do think it's 765 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,559 incredible There's been an 766 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,680 outpouring and so many. 767 00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:10,709 Manifestations of concern about 768 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:12,389 animals and testing. 769 00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:14,409 I think it's a new moment there. 770 00:25:14,410 --> 00:25:15,889 And I think you're seeing it with 771 00:25:15,890 --> 00:25:17,749 pundits and you're saying it with 772 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:19,789 lawmakers and you are seeing it 773 00:25:19,790 --> 00:25:21,149 with the public. 774 00:25:21,150 --> 00:25:23,349 So it's all kind of a rising tide. 775 00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:24,849 Did that add to the pressure to get 776 00:25:24,850 --> 00:25:25,929 the deal done? 777 00:25:25,930 --> 00:25:28,009 I mean, I can't speak for 778 00:25:28,010 --> 00:25:29,809 Richland. You'd have to ask the 779 00:25:29,810 --> 00:25:30,810 folks there. 780 00:25:32,030 --> 00:25:33,949 So these people are going to be 781 00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:35,309 available for adoption. 782 00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:37,549 What kind of issues are 783 00:25:37,550 --> 00:25:39,549 these people going to maybe 784 00:25:39,550 --> 00:25:40,389 carry with them? 785 00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:41,969 What should families be prepared for 786 00:25:41,970 --> 00:25:43,789 when applying to adopt one of 787 00:25:43,790 --> 00:25:44,729 these animals? 788 00:25:44,730 --> 00:25:45,730 Sure, Lauren. 789 00:25:47,540 --> 00:25:49,919 And the question was, 790 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,999 the conditions or the 791 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,559 behavior of the animals and how will 792 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,019 they adjust to their new living 793 00:25:56,020 --> 00:25:57,459 environments? What kind of things 794 00:25:57,460 --> 00:25:59,979 can adopters think 795 00:25:59,980 --> 00:26:01,479 about in terms of the challenges? 796 00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:04,849 So any dog that has 797 00:26:04,850 --> 00:26:06,869 been raised in a 798 00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:08,029 confinement situation, 799 00:26:09,810 --> 00:26:11,669 a testing laboratory, 800 00:26:11,670 --> 00:26:13,849 a puppy mill in cages 801 00:26:13,850 --> 00:26:16,009 is going to go through a 802 00:26:16,010 --> 00:26:17,929 transition period. 803 00:26:17,930 --> 00:26:19,809 They don't know what it's like to 804 00:26:19,810 --> 00:26:20,809 be in a home. 805 00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:23,409 They don't know what is like to 806 00:26:23,410 --> 00:26:25,629 the outside walk on grass. 807 00:26:25,630 --> 00:26:29,209 They don't know normal 808 00:26:29,210 --> 00:26:31,389 things that a normal dog 809 00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:34,530 from a normal situation. 810 00:26:35,690 --> 00:26:37,609 It's all new to them. 811 00:26:37,610 --> 00:26:39,469 So people will need to be 812 00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:41,229 very patient. 813 00:26:41,230 --> 00:26:44,089 They will need to understand. 814 00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:46,049 Things could turn around for each 815 00:26:46,050 --> 00:26:47,989 dog differently as far as 816 00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:48,949 time. 817 00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:51,029 Some could take months. 818 00:26:51,030 --> 00:26:53,129 Some can take longer. 819 00:26:53,130 --> 00:26:55,029 So being prepared 820 00:26:55,030 --> 00:26:56,869 to have the patience, 821 00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:59,349 give the love, earn that trust 822 00:26:59,350 --> 00:27:01,409 to these dogs is very 823 00:27:01,410 --> 00:27:02,389 important. 824 00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:04,629 For each person considering 825 00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:06,509 to give one of these dogs 826 00:27:06,510 --> 00:27:07,709 a home. 827 00:27:07,710 --> 00:27:09,669 Each one of the rescues will 828 00:27:09,670 --> 00:27:11,849 start it, do the beginning, 829 00:27:11,850 --> 00:27:13,769 and hopefully not adopt out 830 00:27:13,770 --> 00:27:15,649 until they're ready. 831 00:27:15,650 --> 00:27:17,769 But any adopter needs to 832 00:27:17,770 --> 00:27:19,749 know it's going to 833 00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:21,230 take love and time. 834 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,619 Hey, did you have anything you 835 00:27:23,620 --> 00:27:25,539 wanted to add to that 836 00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:27,019 question in general in terms of 837 00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:28,659 socializing animals? 838 00:27:28,660 --> 00:27:30,339 So if that was satisfactory, don't 839 00:27:30,340 --> 00:27:31,959 feel bad. Yeah, I think that was 840 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,039 great. 841 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,239 Not that I thought that it was 842 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,159 incomplete. 843 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,419 It was just one of the few of our 844 00:27:36,420 --> 00:27:38,220 friends. Let me ask Joseph Grove. 845 00:27:39,260 --> 00:27:42,019 We've kind of favored our in 846 00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:44,079 office room 847 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,179 or in conference room 848 00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:47,179 crowd here. 849 00:27:47,180 --> 00:27:49,199 Let's take one or two questions from 850 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,419 our online. 851 00:27:50,420 --> 00:27:51,439 All right, very good. 852 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,499 Thank you. From Wisconsin Public 853 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:54,559 Radio, we're being asked about 854 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,419 the very specific 855 00:27:56,420 --> 00:27:57,939 provisions in the agreement. 856 00:27:57,940 --> 00:27:59,059 You may have already answered this 857 00:27:59,060 --> 00:28:01,199 regarding confidentiality, 858 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,499 but are there provisions of the 859 00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:03,660 agreement you can discuss? 860 00:28:04,860 --> 00:28:07,439 The question is about about 861 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,479 other terms in the agreement that 862 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,799 we can we just the answer is, 863 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,379 you know, we're we're telling you 864 00:28:13,380 --> 00:28:15,059 everything that we could tell you. 865 00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:16,439 All right, and a follow up for that 866 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,499 also from Wisconsin Public Radio. 867 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:19,499 Do you believe that there will be 868 00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:21,379 other beagles selected, Rachel, 869 00:28:21,380 --> 00:28:23,319 than once the purchase of 1500 870 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,899 beagles goes through? 871 00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:26,519 Was there attempt to purchase more 872 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,409 beagles? 873 00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:29,309 Yes the question is what 874 00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:31,409 about the remaining vehicles are 875 00:28:31,410 --> 00:28:33,749 they are their vehicles and 876 00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:35,649 are we attempting or did we 877 00:28:35,650 --> 00:28:38,209 attempt to contain uh 878 00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:40,249 custody of them the answer is 879 00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:42,289 as I said before yes uh 880 00:28:42,290 --> 00:28:44,189 we don't have any and we 881 00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:46,149 want them and we are we are 882 00:28:46,150 --> 00:28:48,089 excited about the idea of 883 00:28:48,090 --> 00:28:50,489 acquiring them and we 884 00:28:50,490 --> 00:28:52,389 wanna invite Richland to 885 00:28:52,390 --> 00:28:54,809 you know be part of that process 886 00:28:54,810 --> 00:28:57,569 what we obviously need It's 887 00:28:57,570 --> 00:29:00,009 approval. We're doing this through 888 00:29:00,010 --> 00:29:02,029 through discussion and collaboration 889 00:29:02,030 --> 00:29:03,219 and education 890 00:29:03,220 --> 00:29:05,159 And one final, will you clarify 891 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,439 whether it is 1,000 or 1,500 892 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,399 dogs being released in this 893 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,419 initial tranche? 894 00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:12,539 There are 1,500 dogs being 895 00:29:12,540 --> 00:29:15,279 released in this initial 896 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,159 agreement that 897 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,179 was reached between 898 00:29:19,180 --> 00:29:20,960 Ridgeland and the Center for the 899 00:29:20,961 --> 00:29:21,959 Maneuvering of the Antique Dog 900 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,879 Branch Rescue. 901 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,999 One more? No more. 902 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,000 OK. 903 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:27,639 Obviously, you've been kind of 904 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,279 lobbying at the federal level for a 905 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,239 long time to get some changes. 906 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,839 There's a lot of things happening in 907 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,999 the world right now. 908 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,379 Congress has a lot on its plate. 909 00:29:35,380 --> 00:29:37,139 How confident are you that some of 910 00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:38,259 these initiatives that you're 911 00:29:38,260 --> 00:29:39,559 advocating for can get done on the 912 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,259 federal level, and do you have any 913 00:29:41,260 --> 00:29:43,339 plans to lobby on a state level 914 00:29:43,340 --> 00:29:44,739 for some of the issues that are 915 00:29:44,740 --> 00:29:46,709 specifically based on this concept. 916 00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:48,329 The question is about the lobbying 917 00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:50,509 efforts, and I'll tell you that I'm 918 00:29:50,510 --> 00:29:52,529 very disappointed in 919 00:29:52,530 --> 00:29:54,309 House Republican leaders for not 920 00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:56,449 moving the FDA Modernization 921 00:29:56,450 --> 00:29:58,029 Act 3.0. It has tremendous 922 00:29:58,030 --> 00:29:59,969 bipartisan support. 923 00:29:59,970 --> 00:30:01,869 Lots of Republicans are strongly 924 00:30:01,870 --> 00:30:03,809 behind this legislation. 925 00:30:03,810 --> 00:30:05,749 It's being led by Congressman Buddy 926 00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:07,349 Carter, Republican of Georgia, the 927 00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:09,809 former Health Committee Chairman. 928 00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:11,189 The Senate already passed it. 929 00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:12,829 So both Ron Johnson. 930 00:30:12,830 --> 00:30:14,469 And Tammy Baldwin supported it, 931 00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:15,669 right? They are one of the few 932 00:30:15,670 --> 00:30:17,769 states that has a split delegation 933 00:30:17,770 --> 00:30:19,749 by party. And they both supported 934 00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:21,950 it as have all the other senators. 935 00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:25,149 So Congress needs to 936 00:30:25,150 --> 00:30:27,109 stop delaying on this issue. 937 00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:28,949 This is not just an issue of 938 00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:29,869 animal welfare. 939 00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:31,589 This is about drug pricing. 940 00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:33,469 It's about the speed of delivery of 941 00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:35,609 drugs. It's About adverse reactions 942 00:30:35,610 --> 00:30:36,969 to drugs. I mean, this is a 943 00:30:36,970 --> 00:30:38,709 startling statistic. 944 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:40,629 The fourth leading cause of death in 945 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:42,069 the United States is adverse 946 00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:44,129 reactions to drugs. 947 00:30:44,130 --> 00:30:46,089 The animal tests were part of 948 00:30:46,090 --> 00:30:47,889 that screening process that resulted 949 00:30:47,890 --> 00:30:49,089 in this. And if you watch some of 950 00:30:49,090 --> 00:30:51,089 these pharmaceutical ads, 951 00:30:51,090 --> 00:30:53,109 you see all the 952 00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:55,189 side effects. It's the whole run 953 00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:56,569 of the narrative of the show. 954 00:30:56,570 --> 00:30:57,789 You could swallow your tongue. 955 00:30:57,790 --> 00:30:59,269 You could have a heart attack. 956 00:30:59,270 --> 00:31:01,209 There are all sorts of side 957 00:31:01,210 --> 00:31:02,589 effects from these drugs. 958 00:31:02,590 --> 00:31:04,469 That system is not working for 959 00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:06,349 us in the United States. 960 00:31:06,350 --> 00:31:08,129 Question here, any more? 961 00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:09,279 Yes. 962 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,139 Um, so last week 963 00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:12,519 following, you know, some of the 964 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,779 activists were, um, you know, 965 00:31:14,780 --> 00:31:16,279 the groups that were on the ground 966 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,899 originally said that there was a $1 967 00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:19,679 million deal in the works. 968 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,499 Do you know where they were 969 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:22,159 referring to your guys's work or did 970 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,519 they not have previous knowledge 971 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,409 that this negotiation? 972 00:31:25,410 --> 00:31:26,410 Again, 973 00:31:27,290 --> 00:31:29,189 there were a lot of numbers that 974 00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:31,109 were being thrown around, and we 975 00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:33,009 were not discussing this with 976 00:31:33,010 --> 00:31:34,669 people. This was the confidential 977 00:31:34,670 --> 00:31:36,489 discussion, so there was 978 00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:38,269 a lot stuff flying around. 979 00:31:38,270 --> 00:31:40,089 We're here to tell you that we got 980 00:31:40,090 --> 00:31:42,109 the best deal that we could, 981 00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:43,949 but we wanted those animals, and 982 00:31:43,950 --> 00:31:45,750 that was the bottom line for us. 983 00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:51,209 Complete that answer. 984 00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:53,489 That was if we 985 00:31:53,490 --> 00:31:56,209 were to get all 2000 986 00:31:56,210 --> 00:31:58,109 of the docs. 987 00:31:58,110 --> 00:32:00,249 So this was the same, this is, 988 00:32:00,250 --> 00:32:01,409 they were talking about your guys 989 00:32:01,410 --> 00:32:02,410 negotiation. 990 00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:05,809 I don't know if that was 991 00:32:05,810 --> 00:32:07,249 part of part of that. 992 00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:09,729 Yeah, I think 993 00:32:09,730 --> 00:32:11,589 I think what Laura is saying is 994 00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:13,509 that there there 995 00:32:13,510 --> 00:32:15,869 was there was some 996 00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:18,409 talk in generally. 997 00:32:18,410 --> 00:32:19,969 What is it going to cost to get all 998 00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:21,469 these animals out? 999 00:32:21,470 --> 00:32:23,509 And I don't know 1000 00:32:23,510 --> 00:32:25,129 what other side discussions were 1001 00:32:25,130 --> 00:32:25,949 happening. 1002 00:32:25,950 --> 00:32:28,169 But I don't believe, based on 1003 00:32:28,170 --> 00:32:30,369 Joseph Goode's conversations with 1004 00:32:30,370 --> 00:32:31,869 the legal counsel for Richland, that 1005 00:32:31,870 --> 00:32:32,989 there were a lot of other discussions 1006 00:32:32,990 --> 00:32:34,369 going on. But there were lot of 1007 00:32:34,370 --> 00:32:35,489 people, a lot of chefs in the 1008 00:32:35,490 --> 00:32:37,809 kitchen talking about this issue. 1009 00:32:37,810 --> 00:32:38,169 Yes, sir. 1010 00:32:38,170 --> 00:32:39,509 I want to break down the numbers as 1011 00:32:39,510 --> 00:32:40,469 clearly as possible. 1012 00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:42,489 So 502 Dane County on 1013 00:32:42,490 --> 00:32:43,649 behalf of the Center for Humane 1014 00:32:43,650 --> 00:32:44,689 Economy. 1015 00:32:44,690 --> 00:32:46,709 I have 300s of Big Dog Ranch rescue 1016 00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:48,369 campuses in Florida. 1017 00:32:48,370 --> 00:32:50,029 Can you tell me the other, I'm not a 1018 00:32:50,030 --> 00:32:50,949 math guy, that's 800. 1019 00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:51,119 Thank you. 1020 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,039 Yeah, that's another 700, another 1021 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,359 700 that Lori will 1022 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,139 be working with her partner 1023 00:32:57,140 --> 00:32:58,699 organization. So she's going to take 1024 00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:00,819 300 at her facility, 1025 00:33:00,820 --> 00:33:02,719 Scott, but just like the center is 1026 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,339 participating with Dane County 1027 00:33:04,340 --> 00:33:06,039 Humane and the Wisconsin Puppy Mill 1028 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,259 Project and Beagle Freedom Project, 1029 00:33:08,260 --> 00:33:09,659 she'll be working on the rescues 1030 00:33:09,660 --> 00:33:10,029 too. 1031 00:33:10,030 --> 00:33:10,989 And then a quick follow-up. 1032 00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:12,189 Can you tell me how many rescues 1033 00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:14,589 total involved in this? 1034 00:33:14,590 --> 00:33:15,590 Any outstanding idea? 1035 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,379 Are working with over 1036 00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:21,959 50 partner rescues 1037 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,959 that we have fully vetted 1038 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,959 and that we trust to 1039 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,519 do right. 1040 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,579 We will also as Big 1041 00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:31,639 Dog Ranch be a 1042 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,779 safety net for anything that 1043 00:33:33,780 --> 00:33:35,899 doesn't work out for 1044 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:38,039 the rescues should that hits 1045 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,359 thing they can't deal with 1046 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,999 medically or behaviorally 1047 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,419 or in the in the future. 1048 00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:47,359 They will always have 1049 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,379 that safety net and be returned 1050 00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:51,439 to Big Dog Ranch for our 1051 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,440 thousand dogs. 1052 00:33:53,570 --> 00:33:54,690 One last question. 1053 00:33:55,810 --> 00:33:57,099 Yeah, okay 1054 00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:58,759 Okay, so that's what happened to the 1055 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,359 remaining dogs that are in the 1056 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,360 facility. 1057 00:34:01,780 --> 00:34:03,319 You know, I received a press release 1058 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,919 from PETA saying that they might end 1059 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,759 up in some facility in 1060 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,658 Tennessee, in another research 1061 00:34:08,659 --> 00:34:09,499 facility. I don't know if there's 1062 00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:10,539 any truth to that or not. 1063 00:34:11,710 --> 00:34:13,229 The question is, what about the 1064 00:34:13,230 --> 00:34:15,129 disposition of the remaining dogs? 1065 00:34:15,130 --> 00:34:16,948 And we simply don't know. 1066 00:34:16,949 --> 00:34:18,888 And all I can tell you is that we 1067 00:34:18,889 --> 00:34:20,809 continue to feel great urgency 1068 00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:22,649 in trying to secure 1069 00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:23,649 those dogs. 1070 00:34:23,650 --> 00:34:25,488 And we will find a home for every 1071 00:34:25,489 --> 00:34:26,489 single one of them. 1072 00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:28,919 I guess I could follow up for Dane 1073 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,138 County. I was just asking the main 1074 00:34:30,139 --> 00:34:31,559 society about information saying 1075 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,079 neighborhood get $150. 1076 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,899 Is that part of the $500 that you 1077 00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:36,158 were with the renewal? 1078 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,339 Yes, so we are working with 1079 00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:40,138 Eagle Freedom Project, Wisconsin 1080 00:34:40,139 --> 00:34:41,759 Puppy Mill Project, and the 1081 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,999 Wisconsin Federated Humane 1082 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,559 Societies, which is about 40 1083 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,759 shelters throughout Wisconsin, 1084 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,539 and then Wisconsin Humane is taking 1085 00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:50,379 many of them as well. 1086 00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:52,019 Lots of partners in Wisconsin who 1087 00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:53,059 are going to be after these 1088 00:34:53,060 --> 00:34:54,060 Wisconsin dogs. 1089 00:34:55,130 --> 00:34:57,109 Okay, thank you all 1090 00:34:57,110 --> 00:34:59,129 very much for for 1091 00:34:59,130 --> 00:35:01,009 joining us. Thank you to those of 1092 00:35:01,010 --> 00:35:02,949 you online and you 1093 00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:04,949 can reach me at wane 1094 00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:07,429 at animal wellness action.org 1095 00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:08,369 lori. 1096 00:35:08,370 --> 00:35:09,690 What's the contact for you? 1097 00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:13,929 Lori, l-a-u-r-e-e 1098 00:35:13,930 --> 00:35:16,569 dot simmons, s-i-m-m 1099 00:35:16,570 --> 00:35:19,789 o-n-s at b-d-r 1100 00:35:19,790 --> 00:35:21,029 r dot org. 1101 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:22,249 Thank you. 1102 00:35:22,250 --> 00:35:23,449 Thank you all very much. 1103 00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:24,889 Appreciate you being here. 1104 00:35:24,890 --> 00:35:25,890 Have a good day.