So, we would love to
have all of the independent, direct
primary care providers in our
network.
But when you talk to them, the
reason that they're now independent,
direct primary providers is
they wanted to get away from
the, I've got eight minutes or nine
minutes with my patient and then
I have to move on.
They wanted to treat the whole
person, understand that
there's more questions to be asked
about why your knee hurts than you
can get in eight or nine minute
before just sending someone out for
an x-ray or an MRI.
They don't want to do the paperwork,
they don't want to hire coders and
billers, which contributes
to the overhead and
kind of gets them right back into
the being in the
network.
Arena.
Um, I look back, I don't
think I,
so the only answer that might've
gotten cut off a little bit was the
increased interest in
self-funding.
That's easy to talk about, so I'm
good.
You ask about the increased interest
in self-funding.
We've seen more and more consultants
reach out to us to ask
questions about, you know, where do
we think a good starting point is
for employers to look at
self- funding?
You know, we talked about that 75 to
100 number, I think is pretty good.
Because I think more employers are
hearing in the streets from their
counterparts about ways they're
controlling healthcare costs.
And it trickles down from the three,
four, 500 life groups.
Employers that go well I could do
that too.
I I understand the risk that's
involved.
So I want to explore it
You know, we've probably seen that
interest go up two or three fold in
the last handful of years
Do employers have
a vested interest in making sure
their employees are covered
properly?
Because you have to see your
employees every day in the hallway.
I think absolutely.
I think a good benefit plan is
paramount to finding
good employees and keeping good
employees because if they weren't
it's a lot of money and in some case
it's a lot a time and effort that
leadership has to put into putting
that together.
If they didn't have to they
wouldn't.
You know I think that's the other
thing about self-funding.
It gives you the the leeway
to include some things that may not
be covered through a fully insured
plant, whether it's...
Acupuncture or red light therapy or
massage therapy,
you can incorporate all of that
you want to into that
self-funded plan.
That's great. That was the one
question I didn't need, so.