1 00:00:00,390 --> 00:00:01,689 Yeah, absolutely. 2 00:00:01,690 --> 00:00:03,609 Pretty much the conservative values 3 00:00:03,610 --> 00:00:05,429 and the movement of the right really 4 00:00:05,430 --> 00:00:07,189 started with Charlie Kirk and with 5 00:00:07,190 --> 00:00:09,089 his values and his movement 6 00:00:09,090 --> 00:00:10,609 throughout my campus. 7 00:00:10,610 --> 00:00:11,969 I had the pleasure of actually 8 00:00:11,970 --> 00:00:14,069 meeting him at UW Madison. 9 00:00:14,070 --> 00:00:16,009 He came and did a tour there and I 10 00:00:16,010 --> 00:00:17,489 got to hear him speak and talk about 11 00:00:17,490 --> 00:00:19,109 the values that the conservative 12 00:00:19,110 --> 00:00:20,409 movement provides. 13 00:00:20,410 --> 00:00:22,089 And I think that was so influential 14 00:00:22,090 --> 00:00:23,909 to me, the ideas of 15 00:00:23,910 --> 00:00:25,769 economical freedoms and the idea 16 00:00:25,770 --> 00:00:26,639 of... 17 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,679 God first, and the people that 18 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,419 we can centralize our 19 00:00:31,420 --> 00:00:33,019 state and our country around the 20 00:00:33,020 --> 00:00:35,199 idea of the 21 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,039 ability to work hard for the money 22 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,639 you get. And I think that's a huge 23 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,579 thing that really drew me into the 24 00:00:40,580 --> 00:00:41,439 right. 25 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,059 Yeah, totally. 26 00:00:43,060 --> 00:00:44,979 So we're in a new election season, 27 00:00:44,980 --> 00:00:45,879 right? 28 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,739 And we got to vote, 29 00:00:47,740 --> 00:00:49,139 us young people. 30 00:00:49,140 --> 00:00:50,959 So what problems do you think 31 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,439 you're facing as a young person? 32 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,539 What are you hearing from your 33 00:00:53,540 --> 00:00:55,339 friends about what their concerns 34 00:00:55,340 --> 00:00:57,139 are and what their issues they're 35 00:00:57,140 --> 00:00:58,540 looking for in politicians? 36 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,679 Yeah, absolutely. 37 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,399 I think a really big one is the 38 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,339 economical problem. 39 00:01:03,340 --> 00:01:05,399 I think that inflation and 40 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:06,779 certain costs have gotten so 41 00:01:06,780 --> 00:01:08,759 dramatically high that it's 42 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,979 becoming difficult out of college to 43 00:01:10,980 --> 00:01:12,959 even own a, to get a home, to own 44 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:14,999 a home and to pay off that 45 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,759 student debt that a lot of people 46 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,439 are running into hundreds of 47 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,899 thousands of dollars of debt that 48 00:01:19,900 --> 00:01:21,019 they're paying off throughout the 49 00:01:21,020 --> 00:01:22,919 rest of their lives. And I think the 50 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,899 conservative movement is providing 51 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:28,008 a way to think that economical. 52 00:01:28,009 --> 00:01:29,689 Solutions are possible and that 53 00:01:29,690 --> 00:01:31,129 they're moving into the correct 54 00:01:31,130 --> 00:01:33,129 direction that there is 55 00:01:33,130 --> 00:01:34,549 a solution and we are trying to move 56 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:35,550 forward to it. 57 00:01:36,790 --> 00:01:39,229 Totally totally so um 58 00:01:39,230 --> 00:01:40,609 something that we saw in the last 59 00:01:40,610 --> 00:01:42,389 election there was a ton of articles 60 00:01:42,390 --> 00:01:44,249 on this there was like sort of this 61 00:01:44,250 --> 00:01:46,829 supposed gender divide between like 62 00:01:46,830 --> 00:01:48,129 men were voting young men were 63 00:01:48,130 --> 00:01:49,429 voting very conservative and young 64 00:01:49,430 --> 00:01:51,309 women were voting voting very uh 65 00:01:51,310 --> 00:01:52,369 liberal is that something that 66 00:01:52,370 --> 00:01:53,949 you've noticed is that something you 67 00:01:53,950 --> 00:01:55,849 feel at all when you've been 68 00:01:55,850 --> 00:01:57,069 out there campaigning or talking 69 00:01:57,070 --> 00:01:58,070 with people. 70 00:01:58,950 --> 00:02:00,769 Yeah, I think there is certainly 71 00:02:00,770 --> 00:02:02,629 somewhat of a divide 72 00:02:02,630 --> 00:02:04,369 at least between men and women. 73 00:02:04,370 --> 00:02:06,209 And I think that a little 74 00:02:06,210 --> 00:02:07,689 bit goes to social media. 75 00:02:07,690 --> 00:02:09,668 And I that a lot of 76 00:02:09,669 --> 00:02:11,349 women are being told that the right 77 00:02:11,350 --> 00:02:13,369 is out to attack freedoms on 78 00:02:13,370 --> 00:02:15,269 them. And I like to advise that 79 00:02:15,270 --> 00:02:16,769 that's not the case. 80 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:18,469 And I, I, I think turning point is 81 00:02:18,470 --> 00:02:20,349 providing the ability to show them 82 00:02:20,350 --> 00:02:22,309 we are not out to get anyone. 83 00:02:22,310 --> 00:02:24,049 We are out to provide freedoms for 84 00:02:24,050 --> 00:02:26,029 all and to provide an 85 00:02:26,030 --> 00:02:27,869 answer to all, not take 86 00:02:27,870 --> 00:02:28,649 away any freedom. 87 00:02:28,650 --> 00:02:30,489 So I think that the more that the 88 00:02:30,490 --> 00:02:31,689 young people, especially young 89 00:02:31,690 --> 00:02:33,569 women, listen to the ideas 90 00:02:33,570 --> 00:02:35,449 that Turning Point is trying to 91 00:02:35,450 --> 00:02:37,269 offer to them, the more they'll be 92 00:02:37,270 --> 00:02:39,169 understanding that we are not out to 93 00:02:39,170 --> 00:02:39,949 get anyone. 94 00:02:39,950 --> 00:02:41,789 We are out to understand 95 00:02:41,790 --> 00:02:43,809 and to talk openly with 96 00:02:43,810 --> 00:02:45,909 everyone on both sides of the aisle. 97 00:02:45,910 --> 00:02:46,949 Totally, totally. 98 00:02:46,950 --> 00:02:48,649 Do you, so something that I've heard 99 00:02:48,650 --> 00:02:49,789 from other people is that maybe 100 00:02:49,790 --> 00:02:51,889 there's a sense that one party is 101 00:02:51,890 --> 00:02:53,409 feeling like they're pushing a 102 00:02:53,410 --> 00:02:54,889 gender away or maybe not. 103 00:02:54,890 --> 00:02:56,209 Do you notice that at all? 104 00:02:56,210 --> 00:02:57,349 Do you feel like you're pushed away 105 00:02:57,350 --> 00:02:58,509 from the Democrats? 106 00:02:58,510 --> 00:03:00,389 Or do you think, I 107 00:03:00,390 --> 00:03:02,049 know you just spoke to some women 108 00:03:02,050 --> 00:03:03,149 feel like they are being pushed away 109 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:03,989 from Republicans. 110 00:03:03,990 --> 00:03:06,009 Do you noticed that at at all. 111 00:03:06,010 --> 00:03:07,139 I think. 112 00:03:07,140 --> 00:03:08,659 I think to some degree, but nothing 113 00:03:08,660 --> 00:03:10,719 to an extent 114 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,139 of a large degree. 115 00:03:12,140 --> 00:03:14,239 I think that in any 116 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,119 sense that women are 117 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,459 feeling they're pushed away from the 118 00:03:17,460 --> 00:03:19,539 conservative movement should 119 00:03:19,540 --> 00:03:21,219 be taken back a bit. 120 00:03:21,220 --> 00:03:23,459 I think no one is, neither 121 00:03:23,460 --> 00:03:24,919 male or female, are being pushed 122 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:25,959 away either side. 123 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,639 I think they're open to both sides 124 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:29,119 and that they should have the 125 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,279 ability to openly discuss 126 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,699 both sides of the aisle to really 127 00:03:33,700 --> 00:03:35,959 understand and grasp what they 128 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,629 believe and what they can pursue. 129 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:41,409 So I think that your question really 130 00:03:41,410 --> 00:03:43,429 is, it has an 131 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:45,329 idea of men are 132 00:03:45,330 --> 00:03:47,349 not being pushed away from Democrats 133 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:48,829 and women are not being pushed away 134 00:03:48,830 --> 00:03:49,949 from Republicans. 135 00:03:49,950 --> 00:03:52,169 It's just simply different 136 00:03:52,170 --> 00:03:53,889 values in men and women, I think. 137 00:03:55,230 --> 00:03:57,069 That's fair, that's fair. 138 00:03:57,070 --> 00:03:58,289 Um, so going back, you were talking 139 00:03:58,290 --> 00:04:00,269 a little bit about, um, social media 140 00:04:00,270 --> 00:04:01,629 and sort of its effect on our 141 00:04:01,630 --> 00:04:03,569 generation. Obviously, like, we've 142 00:04:03,570 --> 00:04:04,969 been on social media since we were- 143 00:04:04,970 --> 00:04:06,209 I've been social media, since I was, 144 00:04:06,210 --> 00:04:07,449 like 10, right? 145 00:04:07,450 --> 00:04:09,229 Um, what effect do you think that's 146 00:04:09,230 --> 00:04:11,209 had on, uh, 147 00:04:11,210 --> 00:04:12,409 the conservative movement for young 148 00:04:12,410 --> 00:04:13,349 people? Do you think, that brought 149 00:04:13,350 --> 00:04:15,189 more people in? Do you that's 150 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:16,528 maybe radicalized people to 151 00:04:16,529 --> 00:04:17,809 different size? Like, what are your 152 00:04:17,810 --> 00:04:19,429 thoughts on that? 153 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:21,049 Yeah, I think that the social media 154 00:04:21,050 --> 00:04:22,909 line is something we have 155 00:04:22,910 --> 00:04:24,569 to be very careful with because I 156 00:04:24,570 --> 00:04:26,089 think social media is very good in 157 00:04:26,090 --> 00:04:27,929 some senses of the fact that you can 158 00:04:27,930 --> 00:04:30,429 spread what you believe and what you 159 00:04:30,430 --> 00:04:31,849 preach and what you understand and 160 00:04:31,850 --> 00:04:33,689 what you want people to perceive you 161 00:04:33,690 --> 00:04:35,229 as. But I think there's also another 162 00:04:35,230 --> 00:04:37,849 side to that of radicalizing 163 00:04:37,850 --> 00:04:39,669 the idea of 164 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:41,549 hatred. And I think that so much 165 00:04:41,550 --> 00:04:43,409 hatred has been passed around on 166 00:04:43,410 --> 00:04:44,549 social media lately. 167 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:46,389 It's gotten to extent that is 168 00:04:46,390 --> 00:04:48,009 out of control and it needs to come 169 00:04:48,010 --> 00:04:49,999 back. And if we can get it 170 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,039 back to how it was where it was just 171 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,019 simple, common discussion 172 00:04:54,020 --> 00:04:55,839 and debate, I think that's a super 173 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:57,659 healthy way to use social media, 174 00:04:57,660 --> 00:04:59,799 but the hatred throughout any 175 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,619 apps or any media 176 00:05:01,620 --> 00:05:03,659 of any kind is not 177 00:05:03,660 --> 00:05:05,619 acceptable and should be reprimanded 178 00:05:05,620 --> 00:05:07,189 and understood. 179 00:05:07,190 --> 00:05:09,329 Totally, totally, and you know, 180 00:05:09,330 --> 00:05:11,949 going into this debate point 181 00:05:11,950 --> 00:05:13,049 that you brought up, obviously 182 00:05:13,050 --> 00:05:14,529 that's a very important part of 183 00:05:14,530 --> 00:05:16,409 Turning Point that you guys 184 00:05:16,410 --> 00:05:17,909 use social media to kind of build 185 00:05:17,910 --> 00:05:20,029 this platform, right, with, 186 00:05:20,030 --> 00:05:21,369 I'm just wondering, so when you're 187 00:05:21,370 --> 00:05:22,669 out tabling, what are those 188 00:05:22,670 --> 00:05:23,469 conversations like? 189 00:05:23,470 --> 00:05:25,210 What's it like being part of those 190 00:05:25,211 --> 00:05:26,409 conversations that you're having 191 00:05:26,410 --> 00:05:27,669 with students who maybe you're 192 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:29,029 feeling coming up to you 193 00:05:29,030 --> 00:05:30,289 antagonistic or maybe they're 194 00:05:30,290 --> 00:05:32,189 curious, how do you deal with 195 00:05:32,190 --> 00:05:33,190 that? 196 00:05:33,380 --> 00:05:34,899 Yeah, so the first thing that I 197 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:36,159 always think of when I'm tabling or 198 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,279 with talking to individuals from 199 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:40,079 the right or the left is I 200 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,919 understand where they're coming 201 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,299 from. I try to understand their 202 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:44,219 story and where their values come 203 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:46,339 into play because values are such an 204 00:05:46,340 --> 00:05:48,299 important part of where we 205 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:49,659 believe things and where we fall on 206 00:05:49,660 --> 00:05:50,839 the aisle that you have to 207 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:52,579 understand that before talking to 208 00:05:52,580 --> 00:05:54,419 someone, before trying to convince 209 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:55,959 them that this is what or this 210 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:56,999 isn't. 211 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,899 So I think that the more you can 212 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:00,839 understand the story, the more 213 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:02,079 can discuss. 214 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,299 There's plenty of times that people 215 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:04,959 have come up and simply not known 216 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,779 and simply just had a question and 217 00:06:06,780 --> 00:06:07,759 wanted an answer. 218 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,499 And I'm absolutely happy to talk to 219 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:10,559 those people. 220 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,799 Absolutely happy to have a 221 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,059 discussion with them and understand 222 00:06:13,060 --> 00:06:14,359 where they're coming from, where I'm 223 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,499 coming from. And if we can meet in 224 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:16,879 the middle, there's also other 225 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,439 people who know exactly where they 226 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,479 are and they don't have any 227 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,439 reason to move. 228 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,259 They don't any reason too 229 00:06:23,260 --> 00:06:24,319 come to a compromise. 230 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,119 They have no reason. 231 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,259 They, they believe that they have 232 00:06:26,260 --> 00:06:27,919 all the answers and they come with a 233 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,839 lot of hatred, they come a lot of 234 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:32,019 demise, a lot, of anger. 235 00:06:32,020 --> 00:06:34,439 And I feel some of those people, 236 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,979 it is out of spite of us. 237 00:06:35,980 --> 00:06:37,799 I do feel that is true, 238 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,659 but I also feel it's 239 00:06:39,660 --> 00:06:41,279 a displacement of their own anger of 240 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:43,319 themselves. And I think that's, I 241 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,999 hope one day we can go back to the 242 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,939 idea of open-mindedness 243 00:06:46,940 --> 00:06:48,619 to either side. 244 00:06:48,620 --> 00:06:50,359 And so that you can go, either side 245 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,739 can go out and discuss openly about 246 00:06:52,740 --> 00:06:54,439 what is the truth and how we can get 247 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,699 to it and how we can come to an 248 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:56,700 agreement on it. 249 00:06:57,830 --> 00:07:00,609 Absolutely, absolutely, and you 250 00:07:00,610 --> 00:07:01,629 know something else that I've been 251 00:07:01,630 --> 00:07:03,349 hearing from the other people I've 252 00:07:03,350 --> 00:07:05,909 interviewed, right, when 253 00:07:05,910 --> 00:07:07,209 we look at like the current 254 00:07:07,210 --> 00:07:09,209 Republican candidate, we don't 255 00:07:09,210 --> 00:07:10,429 know the Democratic candidate for 256 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:13,429 governor yet, but he's 68. 257 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:14,989 The Democratic candidate, right now 258 00:07:14,990 --> 00:07:15,769 it seems like they're going to be 259 00:07:15,770 --> 00:07:16,549 younger. 260 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:17,949 We've had a couple presidents that 261 00:07:17,950 --> 00:07:19,769 are older, we've had like 262 00:07:19,770 --> 00:07:21,769 six Congress people die in office 263 00:07:21,770 --> 00:07:23,769 just this term, right. 264 00:07:23,770 --> 00:07:25,449 It feels like it's a boomer's world 265 00:07:25,450 --> 00:07:28,159 and we're just kind of living in it. 266 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,999 How do you navigate that 267 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,639 sense that like, maybe that the 268 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,359 young person vote, or just young 269 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,219 people in politics just, we 270 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:36,259 just don't really have a place? 271 00:07:36,260 --> 00:07:37,299 Do you have that feeling at all? 272 00:07:38,610 --> 00:07:40,169 That's a great question, but I think 273 00:07:40,170 --> 00:07:41,749 the youth vote is such an important 274 00:07:41,750 --> 00:07:43,269 vote. And it absolutely showed on 275 00:07:43,270 --> 00:07:45,329 the last election with such the 276 00:07:45,330 --> 00:07:47,249 right swing and youth vote, I think 277 00:07:47,250 --> 00:07:49,349 more than ever, the youth boat 278 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:51,349 is becoming more and more 279 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:52,169 important. 280 00:07:52,170 --> 00:07:53,609 And I think that young people who 281 00:07:53,610 --> 00:07:55,149 don't think they have a voice or 282 00:07:55,150 --> 00:07:57,149 don't think they're being heard, I'd 283 00:07:57,150 --> 00:07:58,449 ask you to reconsider because you 284 00:07:58,450 --> 00:08:00,289 are important and you really are the 285 00:08:00,290 --> 00:08:01,969 future of where this country is 286 00:08:01,970 --> 00:08:02,909 going. 287 00:08:02,910 --> 00:08:03,769 Your vote matters. 288 00:08:03,770 --> 00:08:05,589 And absolutely, no matter what you 289 00:08:05,590 --> 00:08:07,350 think, it will impact the future. 290 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,459 Yeah, yeah, and going back to 291 00:08:10,460 --> 00:08:12,559 that last election, do you, 292 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,099 obviously there was a swing right 293 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:15,479 for young voters, they were still 294 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,779 voted liberal, but it was 295 00:08:16,780 --> 00:08:18,119 noticeable, right? 296 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,519 Do you think that's part of a 297 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,399 pattern? Like we're going to see 298 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,419 young people become more, I 299 00:08:23,420 --> 00:08:25,279 guess, politically diverse, or do 300 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,659 you think that was just like a 301 00:08:26,660 --> 00:08:28,019 one-off because of the economic 302 00:08:28,020 --> 00:08:29,259 situations? Where's your head on 303 00:08:29,260 --> 00:08:30,260 that? 304 00:08:31,210 --> 00:08:33,189 Yeah, I think that's a really good 305 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:35,129 question. And I think only time will 306 00:08:35,130 --> 00:08:36,130 tell. 307 00:08:37,270 --> 00:08:39,149 As I've come to believe on 308 00:08:39,150 --> 00:08:40,709 campuses and the more I've talked to 309 00:08:40,710 --> 00:08:42,489 individuals, is that they're coming 310 00:08:42,490 --> 00:08:44,469 to believe that they want 311 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:45,869 more of a middle ground. 312 00:08:45,870 --> 00:08:47,789 They wanna stop being so far left 313 00:08:47,790 --> 00:08:48,569 and so far right. 314 00:08:48,570 --> 00:08:50,489 They wanna find a compromise in 315 00:08:50,490 --> 00:08:52,649 the middle. And I that the more 316 00:08:52,650 --> 00:08:54,489 the right comes to compromise with 317 00:08:54,490 --> 00:08:56,769 them and the left seems to fall more 318 00:08:56,770 --> 00:08:58,889 and more left, that young voters 319 00:08:58,890 --> 00:09:01,089 will become more purple. 320 00:09:01,090 --> 00:09:02,509 And even maybe more red. 321 00:09:02,510 --> 00:09:03,509 And I think that's something 322 00:09:03,510 --> 00:09:05,489 interesting to see depending 323 00:09:05,490 --> 00:09:07,309 on how the parties react to that 324 00:09:07,310 --> 00:09:09,149 and how they will be 325 00:09:09,150 --> 00:09:11,009 in five to 10 years and in 326 00:09:11,010 --> 00:09:12,929 three elections or four elections. 327 00:09:12,930 --> 00:09:14,749 And I guess, again, time will just 328 00:09:14,750 --> 00:09:16,009 have to tell. 329 00:09:16,010 --> 00:09:18,389 Yeah yeah and actually that's 330 00:09:18,390 --> 00:09:20,629 goes into my next question um 331 00:09:20,630 --> 00:09:22,709 so there's been a rise in 332 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:24,489 young voters of young voters 333 00:09:24,490 --> 00:09:26,309 identifying as independents do you 334 00:09:26,310 --> 00:09:28,129 think that young voters are 335 00:09:28,130 --> 00:09:29,609 being pushed away from the parties? 336 00:09:29,610 --> 00:09:31,009 Do you think they're unsatisfied 337 00:09:31,010 --> 00:09:32,190 with the current state of politics? 338 00:09:35,370 --> 00:09:37,129 It's a really good question. 339 00:09:37,130 --> 00:09:39,229 I think that the purple, like 340 00:09:39,230 --> 00:09:41,069 the independence obviously is 341 00:09:41,070 --> 00:09:43,029 dramatic and is important 342 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:45,189 to understand and to value 343 00:09:45,190 --> 00:09:46,309 it. 344 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:48,169 But I think it's not 345 00:09:48,170 --> 00:09:50,509 a dissatisfaction per se, 346 00:09:50,510 --> 00:09:53,029 it's more of a uncertainty. 347 00:09:53,030 --> 00:09:54,989 And they have a lot on social 348 00:09:54,990 --> 00:09:56,969 media. Young people are on 349 00:09:56,970 --> 00:09:58,309 social more than any other 350 00:09:58,310 --> 00:10:00,749 generation and they 351 00:10:00,750 --> 00:10:02,869 are the ones who really 352 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:04,209 take in the most information. 353 00:10:04,210 --> 00:10:05,949 And so. You're taking in all this 354 00:10:05,950 --> 00:10:07,089 information from the right and 355 00:10:07,090 --> 00:10:08,309 taking all this information from 356 00:10:08,310 --> 00:10:10,509 left it's hard to 357 00:10:10,510 --> 00:10:12,109 decompose all of it and to 358 00:10:12,110 --> 00:10:14,349 understand what it really 359 00:10:14,350 --> 00:10:16,229 offers and what it really is 360 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:18,169 about and i think the more 361 00:10:18,170 --> 00:10:20,089 they understand and the more 362 00:10:20,090 --> 00:10:22,069 information that they get we'll see 363 00:10:22,070 --> 00:10:24,989 more right and left and less purple 364 00:10:24,990 --> 00:10:26,909 but it's tough to know if if 365 00:10:26,910 --> 00:10:28,449 there really will be a new 366 00:10:28,450 --> 00:10:29,689 independent middle ground for the 367 00:10:29,690 --> 00:10:30,690 young vote. 368 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:33,449 Yeah yeah and um 369 00:10:33,450 --> 00:10:34,869 you know obviously your organization 370 00:10:34,870 --> 00:10:36,749 was started by Charlie Kirk 371 00:10:36,750 --> 00:10:38,789 um i just want to i 372 00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:40,009 would assume you're a viewer of his 373 00:10:40,010 --> 00:10:42,029 um do you have any thoughts 374 00:10:42,030 --> 00:10:44,109 on like his impact 375 00:10:44,110 --> 00:10:45,749 about how he's influenced your 376 00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:46,850 political ideology at all 377 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,419 Yeah, absolutely. 378 00:10:49,420 --> 00:10:51,879 I think his stance was 379 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,319 more of a discussion, 380 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,519 not debate. 381 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,499 He never had any hatred for anyone, 382 00:10:57,500 --> 00:10:58,939 no matter what the media would say 383 00:10:58,940 --> 00:11:00,099 about him. 384 00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:01,459 He wanted to have open discussion 385 00:11:01,460 --> 00:11:02,459 and debate with everyone. 386 00:11:02,460 --> 00:11:03,999 And I think that that really has 387 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,599 changed my perspective on how 388 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,179 politics should be run. 389 00:11:07,180 --> 00:11:09,059 Before him, I 390 00:11:09,060 --> 00:11:10,979 always thought politics as a 391 00:11:10,980 --> 00:11:12,919 debate, debate, debate, a 392 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,279 right and a wrong, and there must be 393 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,059 some debate in the middle. 394 00:11:17,060 --> 00:11:18,339 Now I've come to believe there's 395 00:11:18,340 --> 00:11:19,879 discussion. There's discussion to 396 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,819 find a truth. 397 00:11:20,820 --> 00:11:22,839 There's a discussion to fine, okay, 398 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,519 you believe this, I believe this. 399 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,619 Let's find somewhere we can meet and 400 00:11:26,620 --> 00:11:27,879 find our truth. 401 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,599 What is the truth? 402 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,499 And I think that that has 403 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:33,379 really helped me understand 404 00:11:33,380 --> 00:11:35,259 what politics really is 405 00:11:35,260 --> 00:11:37,139 about and what to 406 00:11:37,140 --> 00:11:38,479 understand moving forward. 407 00:11:40,630 --> 00:11:42,589 Yeah and um obviously 408 00:11:42,590 --> 00:11:43,929 that was a very good answer by the 409 00:11:43,930 --> 00:11:46,089 way but um you know uh 410 00:11:46,090 --> 00:11:47,749 do you think you could what have you 411 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:50,469 heard from people who maybe aren't 412 00:11:50,470 --> 00:11:51,649 uh fans of Charlie Kirk? 413 00:11:51,650 --> 00:11:53,709 What has their impact been on them? 414 00:11:53,710 --> 00:11:55,109 Do you think they've been he's been 415 00:11:55,110 --> 00:11:55,989 able to change minds? 416 00:11:55,990 --> 00:11:58,109 Do you think he's had a sway 417 00:11:58,110 --> 00:11:59,549 on the Gen Z vote? 418 00:11:59,550 --> 00:12:00,550 What are your thoughts there. 419 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,399 Yeah, I have plenty of people I run 420 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,439 into on a daily. 421 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,259 I have family members who really did 422 00:12:06,260 --> 00:12:07,419 not like Charlie Kirk. 423 00:12:07,420 --> 00:12:09,559 And I understand the 424 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:11,539 divide with Charlie Kirk and 425 00:12:11,540 --> 00:12:14,419 his ideologies, but I 426 00:12:14,420 --> 00:12:16,479 encourage everyone who dislikes him 427 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,319 to really just go out and 428 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,879 watch what he had to speak for and 429 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,019 watch would he had say, listen 430 00:12:22,020 --> 00:12:23,899 to him and understand what he stood 431 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:26,239 for and what he truly believed in. 432 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,699 Because when you find out what he 433 00:12:27,700 --> 00:12:29,199 really believed in in the open 434 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,588 discussion and the... 435 00:12:30,589 --> 00:12:32,109 Political discussion between both 436 00:12:32,110 --> 00:12:33,969 sides, you'll come to believe 437 00:12:33,970 --> 00:12:35,689 that he actually wanted more of a 438 00:12:35,690 --> 00:12:37,929 compromise, not a pushing away 439 00:12:37,930 --> 00:12:40,029 of those who were not in 440 00:12:40,030 --> 00:12:40,809 line with him. 441 00:12:40,810 --> 00:12:43,029 And I think that's a really, really 442 00:12:43,030 --> 00:12:44,849 key point if we want to come to an 443 00:12:44,850 --> 00:12:45,850 agreement in the future. 444 00:12:46,970 --> 00:12:47,970 Totally, totally. 445 00:12:49,110 --> 00:12:51,189 And could you just, you 446 00:12:51,190 --> 00:12:52,489 went into it a little bit, but can 447 00:12:52,490 --> 00:12:54,269 you go into a little more about why 448 00:12:54,270 --> 00:12:55,869 you think the youth vote matters and 449 00:12:55,870 --> 00:12:57,809 why you are out there 450 00:12:57,810 --> 00:12:59,570 tabling when you do table? 451 00:13:01,780 --> 00:13:03,739 Yeah, well the cliche way 452 00:13:03,740 --> 00:13:05,619 obviously is the youth is the 453 00:13:05,620 --> 00:13:07,559 future obviously the youth people 454 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,439 are going to be here longer than the 455 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,739 the older the boomers the The 456 00:13:11,740 --> 00:13:13,599 older generations that won't be here 457 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,619 as long We have the say 458 00:13:15,620 --> 00:13:17,479 into what the future will look like 459 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,619 so it's so critically important 460 00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:21,539 right now To get to those young 461 00:13:21,540 --> 00:13:23,739 people and to outstretch our 462 00:13:23,740 --> 00:13:25,699 beliefs to them to have the open 463 00:13:25,700 --> 00:13:27,699 discussion To have the Open Debate 464 00:13:27,700 --> 00:13:29,689 with them and understand where 465 00:13:29,690 --> 00:13:31,009 they come from and where we come 466 00:13:31,010 --> 00:13:32,909 from and how we can meet together 467 00:13:32,910 --> 00:13:34,849 to move forward for 468 00:13:34,850 --> 00:13:36,709 the society and the generation 469 00:13:36,710 --> 00:13:37,710 that we want to have. 470 00:13:39,550 --> 00:13:40,550 Totally, 471 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:42,949 and man, we blew through these 472 00:13:42,950 --> 00:13:44,189 questions. 473 00:13:44,190 --> 00:13:45,589 Last question for you, you can take 474 00:13:45,590 --> 00:13:46,929 your time to think about this. 475 00:13:48,110 --> 00:13:49,789 If you had one message that you 476 00:13:49,790 --> 00:13:51,089 would like to give to politicians, 477 00:13:51,090 --> 00:13:52,569 what do you think they need to hear 478 00:13:52,570 --> 00:13:53,570 from young voters? 479 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,439 I'm just going to take a moment just 480 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,579 to think about that question. 481 00:13:58,580 --> 00:13:59,580 Thank you. 482 00:14:03,930 --> 00:14:06,049 If I had one thing I would say to 483 00:14:06,050 --> 00:14:08,009 politicians, it would 484 00:14:08,010 --> 00:14:09,969 be try not 485 00:14:09,970 --> 00:14:11,889 to be so far left and so far right 486 00:14:11,890 --> 00:14:13,709 and to find the middle so 487 00:14:13,710 --> 00:14:15,069 that we can come together as a 488 00:14:15,070 --> 00:14:16,809 country and be stronger. 489 00:14:16,810 --> 00:14:18,429 Being far right, and being far left 490 00:14:18,430 --> 00:14:20,349 is okay, but it's not going to 491 00:14:20,350 --> 00:14:21,349 get us anywhere in the end of the 492 00:14:21,350 --> 00:14:23,509 day. I hope one day we can together 493 00:14:23,510 --> 00:14:25,429 and form the country that we 494 00:14:25,430 --> 00:14:26,430 desire. 495 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,319 Alright, well said. 496 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,939 Anything else that you think you 497 00:14:31,940 --> 00:14:33,219 would like to have covered that you 498 00:14:33,220 --> 00:14:34,220 think I need to know? 499 00:14:36,110 --> 00:14:37,110 Um... 500 00:14:42,370 --> 00:14:44,259 Not that I can think of. 501 00:14:44,260 --> 00:14:46,199 All right, well, Zach, 502 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,179 very nice meeting you. 503 00:14:47,180 --> 00:14:48,679 Shaw, very Nice meeting you today as 504 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:49,680 well. 505 00:14:50,380 --> 00:14:51,839 You'll let me know when you guys are 506 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,379 tabling again and we can come film 507 00:14:53,380 --> 00:14:54,779 B-roll, right? 508 00:14:54,780 --> 00:14:56,279 Yes, I'll let you know. 509 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,099 It should be. 510 00:14:57,100 --> 00:14:58,100 When do you need it by? 511 00:14:59,130 --> 00:15:01,169 Um, probably 512 00:15:01,170 --> 00:15:03,229 the first week of school is when, or 513 00:15:03,230 --> 00:15:04,569 second week of school, I know that's 514 00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:05,409 probably when you guys are tabling, 515 00:15:05,410 --> 00:15:08,289 that would be ideal for us, I think. 516 00:15:08,290 --> 00:15:09,409 Yeah, I can be in touch with you 517 00:15:09,410 --> 00:15:10,209 with our schedule. 518 00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:11,229 I have to have a meeting with our 519 00:15:11,230 --> 00:15:12,149 team coming up. 520 00:15:12,150 --> 00:15:13,488 So I'll let you know. 521 00:15:13,489 --> 00:15:14,909 Perfect. Thank you so much and thank 522 00:15:14,910 --> 00:15:16,109 you guys so much for coming today. 523 00:15:16,110 --> 00:15:17,909 It was lovely talking with you both. 524 00:15:17,910 --> 00:15:18,929 Yeah, thank you so much for having 525 00:15:18,930 --> 00:15:19,359 us. 526 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,419 Thank you and Elijah one 527 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:23,259 last thing. So when this package 528 00:15:23,260 --> 00:15:25,119 does come out, do you mind sending 529 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,739 this to us just so we 530 00:15:26,740 --> 00:15:28,079 Absolutely. 531 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,139 Yeah, cool. 532 00:15:29,140 --> 00:15:30,299 Okay. Well, thanks so much, 533 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:31,509 everyone. Talk to you later. 534 00:15:31,510 --> 00:15:32,629 Thank you so much. 535 00:15:32,630 --> 00:15:33,929 Take care guys. 536 00:15:33,930 --> 00:15:34,930 Bye bye. 537 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,040 And thank you, Zach. 538 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,029 I'm gonna end this. 539 00:15:42,030 --> 00:15:43,949 Meeting now unless there's 540 00:15:43,950 --> 00:15:44,950 another reason I should. 541 00:15:48,150 --> 00:15:48,959 I'm going to take your silence. 542 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:49,960 Is a yes.