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Well, I guess let's start back at

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your beginning.

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So when you were a kid, did you go

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up around here or where'd you grow

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up?

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Okay, I grew up in Hancock,

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Wisconsin, and my

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parents had a dairy farm, and

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we had a gravel pit right across the

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street, and that's where we spent

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our summers, was in the gravel pit.

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And swimming and fishing in the

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gravel pit was our thing there.

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Okay, so you fished from a

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young age. I did.

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I did, yeah.

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Was that just, that was all you guys

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could do for fun and it was always

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available?

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I did that and then my

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dad would, after he got

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the cow's milk that night, he

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would sometimes take me down

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to Hancock to one of the

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lakes. He borrowed one of guy's

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boats down there and we'd go down

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and pan fish a little bit.

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He fished any time he

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could.

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He did ice fishing almost all

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the time because that's the time of

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the year that farmers have that they

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can actually go do something besides

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work. But so he

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spent his time ice fishing,

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and so we kind of grew up with

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people fishing and stuff.

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But I'm probably the only one in the

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family that really took to it

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a lot, more so.

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My one sister just now started

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fishing because of me.

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But otherwise, yeah, we just

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did fishing a lot

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of times in the farm.

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What was it about fishing that, you

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know, gotcha, or it still gets you,

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I guess.

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I think it's just to go

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out there and see if you're gonna

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catch something.

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It's the unknown, you never know

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what you're going to catch or how

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big it's going to be or are

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you going to be there all day and

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nothing or all day and catch a ton

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of them or I think it's the just the

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unknown of what you are out there

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for.

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Did you get into walleye before you

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met your husband or was that around

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the same time?

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Once I got married, he'd

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walleye fished, and so I started

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walleye fishing then.

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I had never walleye-fished and

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stuff. I basically just shore-fished

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from the gravel pit and stuff before

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that, and then when we got married

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we got our first little boat.

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It was like a little bitty

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$400 little flat boat

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and then worked our way up until

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at the end, after the last

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boat we had bought was a Lund, and

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then we went, we would go to

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Canada.

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Quite often and then after

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at one point we started going up

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to upper Minnesota

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instead of going into Canada and

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found that the fishing was just as

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good in Minnesota.

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So we basically we fished there for

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11 years in a row.

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All of our vacations were always

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fishing.

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With the kids we would rent cabins

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and fish or you know that

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kind of thing but any kind of

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vacation we took it was pretty much

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always related to fishing.

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That had to be one of the things

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that helped get you guys together.

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You found out you had something that

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had in common. Right.

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Yeah, right. Yeah, that and bowl

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hunting.

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He got I had been bowl hunting by

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myself and then he was a hunter and

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his family was real sports

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fishing and hunting.

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And so I just kind of fit right in

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with all of them to.

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Well, I'm sure from that point of

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view, you were the perfect woman.

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Well, I don't know, maybe sometimes

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you wish I'd stayed home.

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I don't know.

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But that had to be something special

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that you guys could ship.

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It was, yeah.

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We would always, I mean, basically,

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we would go fishing, you know, all

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of the time and then hunting

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together, so we fished and hunted.

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I'm sure there were probably other

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couples that you knew or other women

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or other men are probably like,

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well, I wish my wife would fish.

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I could go fishing more.

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I actually, my brother-in-law said

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that all the time.

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He's like, I wish Emma would do

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that, would fish like that and

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stuff, I'd have somebody to go with

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and stuff.

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I just told him, be careful what you

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wish for.

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So how did you guys treat fishing

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when you were in it?

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Was it a little competition?

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Was it friendly?

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Was it front of the boat, back of

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the bow?

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I was always in the back,

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he was always in the front,

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unfortunately he always had to run

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the trolling motor and he had to

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deal with the wind so that I always

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caught the first fish.

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No, it was pretty much that way.

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It's harder when you're in the front

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of the boat and you have to deal

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with all of the other elements that

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are out there than just sitting in

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the back and throwing your line in

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and stuff.

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But we would always try to see who

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would catch the first one, who would

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catch the biggest one, but that

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kind of type of thing.

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And we did a lot

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of catch and release.

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So I'm sure you ate some, but

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a lot of it was just the enjoyment

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of being out there.

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Correct, yeah, just being something

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to do, something outside,

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just nature, you just can't

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beat it.

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So, I mean, for some people, like,

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well, fission's what you do when

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it's nice out.

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We're, we're, what kind of, was

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there any restrictions? Was there any
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If you're gonna fish with, if

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you're in a walleye fish,

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it's going to be the worst weather

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you can fish in is the best walleye

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bite.

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The wind's gotta be blowing, the

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rain's gotta go on.

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Otherwise, yeah,

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I think, can I get that?

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I'm like, I can hear that phone.

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I'll grab that.

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Okay, yeah.

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I was like,

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even worse is I can hear it in my

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ears.

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It's like, my hearing aids,

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it's like whoa, this is really

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distracting.

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You might want to cut that part.

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Okay so so repeat

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run that by me again like so

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oh wait just let me just

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shut this completely

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off.

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Otherwise it's going to ring again.

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Come on, let's shut off here.

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There we go.

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There, now it won't do that.

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And if I could just have you scoot a

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tiny bit to your right, perfect.

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Okay, so that

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probably doesn't make sense for some

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people. Maybe that's why people

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don't catch as many walleye as they

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should, because they think of

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fishing as a nice weather activity.

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Right, yeah, the walleye fishing, I

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always say, my husband always said

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it is the crappier the weather,

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the better off the fishing will be,

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and it seems to run that way.

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They don't like a bright sunny day.

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Walleyes, I don't know if their eyes

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are more sensitive to the light or

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what it is, but they like a

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chop on top of the water.

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They like rain.

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That is when you're walleye-fishing.

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That's when you'll catch more fish.

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That's got to be why some people

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Even bother trying, right?

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Could be, could be, yeah.

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You go out and you try.

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You always, if you want to go out on

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a nice sunny day and you're

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going to walleye fish, you're not

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probably going to be as successful.

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So what is it about walleye that

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made it worth it for you?

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Versus pan fish or something else.

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That was just my husband's thing.

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He just walleye fished, and so

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we basically just wallay fished all

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the time. We very seldom ever pan

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fished and that kind of thing and

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he would get annoyed with me when

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I'd say, well can't we like just go

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throw a bobber in for a while or

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something, you know?

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But so it just that was his his

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thing was walleye.

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So when you had kids, did they grow

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up in this too?

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Yeah, as soon as they were old

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enough to be in the boat they were

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in the boat with us and then we did

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start doing pan fishing more when so

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the kids were in there because you

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had to give them something to

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entertain or when the

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kids are real little just make sure

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you had a bucket of minnows and they

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just play in the middle bucket while

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you're fishing and that kind of

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thing so but yeah they

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they grew up fishing.

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My daughter she still likes fishing

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a lot. My son he's got his own boat

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and he fishes and so

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they're still into fishing probably

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not.

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They're still working so they they

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don't have the advantage I do of not

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working that the time and

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stuff with kids and growing up but

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they still fish.

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And so when did your husband pass

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away? He passed away it'll

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be 10 years in August.

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Was that sudden, or?

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Yeah, we were actually on

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a fishing trip up in Minnesota.

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Our annual vacation that we would

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take, and we always take like 10

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to 14 days and go up

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there and rent a cabin.

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And we were up there, and we were

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only there a few days.

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And he said, you know, I just don't

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feel good. He said, I think I want

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to go home. And I'm like, well, if

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he wants to go home, that's not

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good. So we came home,

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and then he waited a week or so and

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then went in and found out

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he had cancer.

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And that was the

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end.

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Early May-June, and then

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he passed away the first part of

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August, so it was fast,

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yeah. Which is good for him,

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I mean, you don't want to see

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anybody suffer with that if they

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don't have to, but it

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was just hard to believe it happened

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that fast.

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I mean, obviously that's

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a very quick, devastating loss.

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And once he was gone, I

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was just lost.

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I was still working, so I had my

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job.

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But I figured I'm never going to be

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able to fish again, you know, so, I

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sold everything.

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I had a sail, and I sold

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all the baits, and we sold the

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boat, we sold all of the

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two years or so later

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when everything settled down more

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and like I really want to be fishing

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again. And so I started going out

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and buying that stuff again.

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And I actually bought a little

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pop-up shack on Marketplace

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for like $50 and I bought an

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auger and I went out and I kind

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of drilled, I did my own thing with

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it for a while and then I thought I

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really wanna get something to haul

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my stuff onto the ice.

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And that I posted on

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ice fishing junkies asking about

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snow dogs.

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And the snow dogs were just coming

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out at that time.

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And I thought, well, maybe I could

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get one of them because I can't back

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a trailer up.

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I suck at that.

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So I just would maybe put

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it on the back of a carrier.

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And so I put that out

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there and I got a response.

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I got lot of negatives because they

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would just come out.

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And then that's when

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Ricky from Wisconsin Women Fish

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contacted me.

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And she said, did you ever hear of

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our women's fishing club?

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And I'm like, no, I have never heard

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of it and stuff.

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And so I wound up finding out about

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the club through that one post on

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social media.

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And I've been with the club ever

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since.

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What was that like the first time

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you you showed up and it was like

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your first day at school or you

352
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don't know? Yeah, it was

353
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Yeah, it was.

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And we tell all the new

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members, don't be afraid.

356
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It's hard. You drive, you drive

357
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to the event that you signed up for.

358
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The first one I signed up for was

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the winter beginner

360
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101.

361
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And I drove up there and

362
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it's like you almost turn around and

363
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go away because you don't know

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anybody.

365
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And within like five minutes of

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being there, it's just like you've

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been there forever and stuff.

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So it's scary at first because

369
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you don't know anybody.

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Everybody is so welcoming when you

371
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get there that it just you don't

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even realize you're in that

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environment once you get into it

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I mean, it's got to be a different

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feeling just to feel

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welcome in a group again, right?

377
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It is and they're so

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helpful.

379
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Wisconsin Women Fish aren't a

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competitive group.

381
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They basically share all of their

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knowledge. They basically help

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each other.

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If you ride together for

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events sometimes, you borrow

386
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equipment.

387
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They have a lot of loaner equipment

388
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that people can use through the club

389
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to get started so you don't

390
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invest in stuff that you might not

391
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want to do afterwards.

392
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So it's just really...

393
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It's just an educational thing

394
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and a friendship, and the

395
00:11:09,310 --> 00:11:11,069
friendships go so far beyond the

396
00:11:11,070 --> 00:11:13,749
fishing part after a point.

397
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I have ladies that I meet up and

398
00:11:15,730 --> 00:11:17,869
do this or do that with now that,

399
00:11:17,870 --> 00:11:19,929
you know, not necessarily always

400
00:11:19,930 --> 00:11:20,930
fishing either.

401
00:11:22,730 --> 00:11:24,629
Could you, what's more

402
00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:26,349
important to you in that sense if

403
00:11:26,350 --> 00:11:28,269
you can balance like being able to

404
00:11:28,270 --> 00:11:30,109
fish again or having that group of

405
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friends?

406
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Oh, I wouldn't even be able to

407
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weigh that. I think it's just the

408
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combination of the two,

409
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having the avenue and

410
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the ability to go do the

411
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things. Like I said, I don't have a

412
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boat, so boat fishing,

413
00:11:45,060 --> 00:11:46,979
when we have events and I can get in

414
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other ladies' boats and go

415
00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,859
out on the water and stuff, that's

416
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so great.

417
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But when I get a

418
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message from one of them or

419
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a phone call from one them,

420
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just checking up or just seeing

421
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what's going on, You know.

422
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That is as important as being

423
00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,879
in that boat fishing, but the

424
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combination of the two are like,

425
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like that's a bonus.

426
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It may be hard to think of what

427
00:12:10,510 --> 00:12:11,849
would your life be like if you

428
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hadn't found that group.

429
00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,839
I have no idea.

430
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I always tell my son, he always

431
00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,279
says, yeah, that's all she does is

432
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fish all the time.

433
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Now she's never home and stuff.

434
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And I said, well, I said I could be

435
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fishing or I could sitting in the

436
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window, looking out the window like

437
00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,359
all old people do.

438
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But I just, I have not

439
00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,079
idea what I would be doing with my

440
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time.

441
00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,979
I do, my backup for fishing

442
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is quilting.

443
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And so I do do quilting, but it's

444
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gotta be the worst weather ever that

445
00:12:38,780 --> 00:12:40,479
I'm sitting at the sewing machine.

446
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Otherwise I'm outside doing

447
00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:42,760
something.

448
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Yeah, my sons and daughter both,

449
00:12:45,180 --> 00:12:46,799
they said they're so glad I found

450
00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,299
the club because they work and

451
00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:49,679
they've got their families and their

452
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lives and if I,

453
00:12:51,940 --> 00:12:53,219
you know, I don't know what I would

454
00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:55,359
be doing if I wasn't doing this.

455
00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,519
I mean, do you think your husband

456
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would be happy to know that you

457
00:12:57,700 --> 00:12:59,739
found this? Oh, absolutely.

458
00:12:59,740 --> 00:13:01,639
Absolutely. I'm sure he's

459
00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,579
a lot of time.

460
00:13:02,580 --> 00:13:03,839
I actually, most of the time when

461
00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,629
I'm on the water, I think of him.

462
00:13:05,630 --> 00:13:07,689
And I sometimes think that,

463
00:13:07,690 --> 00:13:09,029
you know, I'll say, hey, come on,

464
00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:10,249
you don't get out there and chase

465
00:13:10,250 --> 00:13:12,209
one of them fish my way or do

466
00:13:12,210 --> 00:13:13,769
this or that, you know come on mate,

467
00:13:13,770 --> 00:13:15,249
let's get going up there, you got

468
00:13:15,250 --> 00:13:16,269
your job too.

469
00:13:16,270 --> 00:13:18,149
So I do talk to him when I'm

470
00:13:18,150 --> 00:13:19,649
out there a lot of times in my head

471
00:13:19,650 --> 00:13:21,689
and I think that

472
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he's with me when I am out there and

473
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I that's maybe part of why I like

474
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it so much is the fact that I

475
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still feel close to him even after

476
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10 years that he is still with me.

477
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Broadening out how important is

478
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relationships with fishing because

479
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in this story we've found a lot

480
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of guys who it's like their singular

481
00:13:41,580 --> 00:13:43,439
thing they've kind of given up

482
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families they've lost wives

483
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and friends because they are

484
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so focused on it but then there's

485
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other stories of people who

486
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have broadened their lives by the

487
00:13:51,980 --> 00:13:52,979
people that surround them in

488
00:13:52,980 --> 00:13:53,789
fishing.

489
00:13:53,790 --> 00:13:56,789
Well, I think that if you're

490
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a married couple

491
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and if one

492
00:14:00,810 --> 00:14:02,609
of the, and I'm not going to say man

493
00:14:02,610 --> 00:14:03,829
or woman because it can go either

494
00:14:03,830 --> 00:14:05,849
way, if one the spouses is

495
00:14:05,850 --> 00:14:07,889
just always away from the marriage

496
00:14:07,890 --> 00:14:10,229
doing their own thing,

497
00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:12,349
to me that would make it

498
00:14:12,350 --> 00:14:14,249
a hard marriage, you know,

499
00:14:14,250 --> 00:14:16,189
it would be hard to, you

500
00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:18,149
wouldn't have the closeness and

501
00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:20,189
stuff when you're working together,

502
00:14:20,190 --> 00:14:22,069
whether it's on a job or

503
00:14:22,070 --> 00:14:23,219
out in the boat or...

504
00:14:23,220 --> 00:14:24,659
You know, doing whatever you're

505
00:14:24,660 --> 00:14:26,299
doing and you're going it together.

506
00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:28,259
I think it just bonds.

507
00:14:28,260 --> 00:14:29,979
You know, Larry and I were married

508
00:14:29,980 --> 00:14:32,599
42 years and we

509
00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,499
basically spent every

510
00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:36,099
weekend, pretty much every weekend.

511
00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:37,259
You know he would go with the guys

512
00:14:37,260 --> 00:14:39,039
on occasion fishing and I went with

513
00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,299
the women and did different things

514
00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:41,279
and stuff.

515
00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,159
But most of the time it

516
00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,119
was always together and I think that

517
00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,079
just tightens, strengthens your

518
00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,709
relationship.

519
00:14:48,710 --> 00:14:50,529
Um, I don't know how familiar you

520
00:14:50,530 --> 00:14:51,549
are. Maybe you've heard about it

521
00:14:51,550 --> 00:14:52,769
from some of the younger women in

522
00:14:52,770 --> 00:14:54,889
your group, but online dating

523
00:14:54,890 --> 00:14:56,809
today could be a difficult thing.

524
00:14:56,810 --> 00:14:58,569
And we hear from some women about,

525
00:14:58,570 --> 00:14:59,869
you know, some of the guys that they

526
00:14:59,870 --> 00:15:01,849
see on the dating apps, just

527
00:15:01,850 --> 00:15:03,149
all of them have fishpicks.

528
00:15:03,150 --> 00:15:04,029
Oh

529
00:15:04,030 --> 00:15:05,929
That's the only time they smile, but

530
00:15:05,930 --> 00:15:07,029
I mean when you think about the

531
00:15:07,030 --> 00:15:08,409
pictures that exist in your life I

532
00:15:08,410 --> 00:15:09,889
mean some of the biggest smiles come

533
00:15:09,890 --> 00:15:10,369
with a face

534
00:15:10,370 --> 00:15:12,269
They do, they do, and

535
00:15:12,270 --> 00:15:13,909
then the memories of it, when you

536
00:15:13,910 --> 00:15:15,229
look at the picture and you remember

537
00:15:15,230 --> 00:15:16,589
what you were doing, who you were

538
00:15:16,590 --> 00:15:19,229
with, and how it happened,

539
00:15:19,230 --> 00:15:21,269
that is just all part of

540
00:15:21,270 --> 00:15:22,569
that one picture.

541
00:15:22,570 --> 00:15:24,189
There's always a big story behind

542
00:15:24,190 --> 00:15:25,749
everyone, and those stories

543
00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:27,609
sometimes are inflated a

544
00:15:27,610 --> 00:15:28,610
little bit, and sometimes...

545
00:15:30,650 --> 00:15:32,189
Well, walk me through some of the

546
00:15:32,190 --> 00:15:33,469
photos that you shared with me, like

547
00:15:33,470 --> 00:15:34,699
you got the big one.

548
00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:36,299
The biggest walleye, I have a

549
00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:38,139
picture you have of me with, I

550
00:15:38,140 --> 00:15:40,979
caught that last year with

551
00:15:40,980 --> 00:15:42,979
Justin, he was out guiding

552
00:15:42,980 --> 00:15:44,999
me for the

553
00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,899
walleyes and that

554
00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:48,479
was the biggest wall I have ever

555
00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,479
caught, it was 27 inches so that's

556
00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,319
my goal now is to beat that 27

557
00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,279
and that's how I do fish,

558
00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,839
I don't save a lot of fish because

559
00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,299
I'm just by myself, I don t need a

560
00:15:57,300 --> 00:15:59,279
lot of fish to eat so when

561
00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,119
I do um fish I try to

562
00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,679
beat my personal best.

563
00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,979
And I also try to obtain what

564
00:16:04,980 --> 00:16:07,399
our club has as master anglers,

565
00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,339
which is a specific length on a

566
00:16:09,340 --> 00:16:10,919
specific species.

567
00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,559
And then, so I try to see how many

568
00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,419
of them I can get each year.

569
00:16:14,420 --> 00:16:16,659
But yeah, my big walleye,

570
00:16:16,660 --> 00:16:18,159
that was the biggest one I caught.

571
00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,959
You have a picture of me with a

572
00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,079
musky.

573
00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,939
That was the first musky I had

574
00:16:22,940 --> 00:16:24,879
ever got in

575
00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,039
a boat.

576
00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,759
I actually did catch a muskie this

577
00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,679
last summer in my kayak, which

578
00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,259
was like 33 inches long.

579
00:16:32,260 --> 00:16:34,179
Got him in the kayak, but I couldn't

580
00:16:34,180 --> 00:16:35,819
get a picture of him because of

581
00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:36,779
that.

582
00:16:36,780 --> 00:16:37,979
You have a picture me.

583
00:16:37,980 --> 00:16:40,859
I actually have gone to Alaska and

584
00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:42,159
fished up there.

585
00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,119
I've caught halibut up there and

586
00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,039
salmon and stuff.

587
00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,639
You have got photos of those.

588
00:16:49,390 --> 00:16:51,009
And you've got some older photos of

589
00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,129
you and your husband, right?

590
00:16:52,130 --> 00:16:53,130
Yes.

591
00:16:53,770 --> 00:16:56,239
Are those any specific?

592
00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,539
Those, those are probably,

593
00:16:58,540 --> 00:17:00,399
they're all, yeah, this,

594
00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,379
that, that top, those on

595
00:17:02,380 --> 00:17:03,380
there,

596
00:17:04,420 --> 00:17:06,159
one is a picture of my husband and

597
00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,078
myself and my granddaughter

598
00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:10,019
and

599
00:17:10,020 --> 00:17:12,059
the fishing boat, the ones

600
00:17:12,060 --> 00:17:14,098
that he's in the boat, those were

601
00:17:14,099 --> 00:17:15,959
all taken up in Minnesota.

602
00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,739
That's where we went for vacation

603
00:17:17,740 --> 00:17:19,479
every year. We would go, we did that

604
00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,379
for like 13 years in a row.

605
00:17:21,380 --> 00:17:23,479
We found the place up,

606
00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,480
up,

607
00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,799
Ash River Trail is where it

608
00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:28,939
is at.

609
00:17:28,940 --> 00:17:30,859
And we would go up there every year

610
00:17:30,860 --> 00:17:32,759
and we actually, the very first

611
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,299
year we were there, we met another

612
00:17:34,300 --> 00:17:35,639
couple up there and we got to be

613
00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,739
very close with them.

614
00:17:37,740 --> 00:17:39,019
And we'd meet them every year up

615
00:17:39,020 --> 00:17:40,559
there fishing and stuff.

616
00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,379
And then after Larry passed

617
00:17:42,380 --> 00:17:44,319
away, they're the ones who actually

618
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,399
got me to go to Alaska.

619
00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,059
After he passed, they were going to

620
00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:49,959
Alaska and they sent me a note

621
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,219
and wanted to know if I wanted to

622
00:17:51,220 --> 00:17:52,379
join them in Alaska.

623
00:17:52,380 --> 00:17:54,309
And so I've actually met them.

624
00:17:54,310 --> 00:17:56,869
I actually went out to Colorado and

625
00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:58,809
visited with them one year, and

626
00:17:58,810 --> 00:18:00,689
then two years I went to

627
00:18:00,690 --> 00:18:02,449
Alaska with them and stuff.

628
00:18:02,450 --> 00:18:04,049
So the friendships that you build

629
00:18:04,050 --> 00:18:05,989
off of fishing, you

630
00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:08,349
know, they carry on forever.

631
00:18:08,350 --> 00:18:10,029
Even though we're so far apart and I

632
00:18:10,030 --> 00:18:11,869
don't go up to the Ash River hardly

633
00:18:11,870 --> 00:18:13,269
ever anymore. Once in a while when

634
00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:15,229
they are up there, I'll drive up for

635
00:18:15,230 --> 00:18:17,529
a day with them, and stuff,

636
00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:19,689
but basically your friendships,

637
00:18:19,690 --> 00:18:22,289
it's

638
00:18:22,290 --> 00:18:23,569
locked in. You've got something in

639
00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:24,570
common.

640
00:18:25,090 --> 00:18:26,769
I'm gonna go grab one thing real

641
00:18:26,770 --> 00:18:28,789
quick. I have a new talker

642
00:18:28,790 --> 00:18:29,790
spirit.

643
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,139
We've got that you just want to

644
00:18:43,140 --> 00:18:44,140
walk us through that

645
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,819
Okay, this was

646
00:18:47,820 --> 00:18:49,499
the last time Larry and I went

647
00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:50,899
fishing together.

648
00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:52,859
This was our May and

649
00:18:52,860 --> 00:18:54,939
June vacation just before he got

650
00:18:54,940 --> 00:18:55,919
sick.

651
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,559
So this was our last picture I have

652
00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:58,660
of him in the boat.

653
00:18:59,860 --> 00:19:01,859
It's just a special memory because

654
00:19:01,860 --> 00:19:03,879
of it being the last one.

655
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,699
But this was out last

656
00:19:05,700 --> 00:19:08,559
vacation up at the Ash River.

657
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:09,999
That's a good size fish.

658
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,819
It is, but I'm sure I

659
00:19:11,820 --> 00:19:12,820
caught a bigger one.

660
00:19:15,390 --> 00:19:17,269
But I mean, that's the front of the

661
00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:17,439
boat.

662
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,499
That's him in the front,

663
00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:20,859
and it's walleyes.

664
00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:22,519
And as you can see, check the

665
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,419
weather out.

666
00:19:23,420 --> 00:19:24,739
We've got the storm clouds in the

667
00:19:24,740 --> 00:19:26,099
back. You've got to chop on the

668
00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:27,100
water.

669
00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,539
That is exactly, that's a perfect

670
00:19:29,540 --> 00:19:31,849
scenario for walleye fishing.

671
00:19:31,850 --> 00:19:33,809
And so what's the sound

672
00:19:33,810 --> 00:19:35,889
that you or him would make when you

673
00:19:35,890 --> 00:19:36,890
know you had one on?

674
00:19:38,149 --> 00:19:39,989
Every time, got one.

675
00:19:39,990 --> 00:19:41,429
And the other person would know that

676
00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:42,989
they have to grab the net.

677
00:19:42,990 --> 00:19:44,689
That was always the key.

678
00:19:44,690 --> 00:19:46,579
And who's the better netter.

679
00:19:46,580 --> 00:19:47,799
He's the better netter because he

680
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,099
had more practice because I was

681
00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:50,100
catching on.

682
00:19:51,300 --> 00:19:52,659
That's a good answer.

683
00:19:52,660 --> 00:19:54,039
You gave him more than two.

684
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,040
More experience.

685
00:19:58,780 --> 00:20:01,619
And so that's June of 2016?

686
00:20:01,620 --> 00:20:03,188
Correct. OK.

687
00:20:03,189 --> 00:20:04,869
And guaranteed that if you're

688
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:06,749
fishing all you have to do is get

689
00:20:06,750 --> 00:20:08,229
your sandwich out and the fish will

690
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:10,049
start biting or get your beer out

691
00:20:10,050 --> 00:20:11,469
and open it up and as soon as you

692
00:20:11,470 --> 00:20:12,689
open a beer up the fish will start

693
00:20:12,690 --> 00:20:13,909
biting and you'll never get to

694
00:20:13,910 --> 00:20:14,949
finish it.

695
00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:16,429
Those are a couple extra things to

696
00:20:16,430 --> 00:20:18,289
go with the bad weather, you can try

697
00:20:18,290 --> 00:20:19,519
to prompt the fish to bite.

698
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,219
No, I've heard that you're not

699
00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:22,559
allowed to have a beer until after

700
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,879
you catch a fish, then I've also

701
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,419
heard that you have to have beer in

702
00:20:25,420 --> 00:20:26,819
order to bring the fish in.

703
00:20:26,820 --> 00:20:28,879
It depends on how bad, it

704
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,000
depends on how slow the fish...

705
00:20:34,889 --> 00:20:36,709
When I went fishing with

706
00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:38,189
Lauren and Sandy up there, the ones

707
00:20:38,190 --> 00:20:39,709
from Colorado, when I would go up

708
00:20:39,710 --> 00:20:41,129
and meet with them, if you're

709
00:20:41,130 --> 00:20:43,129
fishing their boat, any time you

710
00:20:43,130 --> 00:20:45,089
catch a fish, and they fish

711
00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:47,069
strictly walleyes too, any you

712
00:20:47,070 --> 00:20:49,009
catch fish, then you have to

713
00:20:49,010 --> 00:20:51,489
have a swig of some snops.

714
00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:52,749
And everybody in the boat has to

715
00:20:52,750 --> 00:20:54,469
have swigs of snops when you catch

716
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:55,289
the fish.

717
00:20:55,290 --> 00:20:57,729
It can be a really bad day,

718
00:20:57,730 --> 00:20:59,039
or a good day.

719
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,289
To do throughout.

720
00:21:00,290 --> 00:21:01,569
You really get into it when you get

721
00:21:01,570 --> 00:21:01,570
into...

722
00:21:01,571 --> 00:21:02,650
You could, yeah.

723
00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:06,309
So every person that fishes,

724
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:07,549
they have their own little rituals

725
00:21:07,550 --> 00:21:09,829
or their own little quirks

726
00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:12,049
that they think make it better.

727
00:21:12,050 --> 00:21:13,809
But I think it's strictly going to

728
00:21:13,810 --> 00:21:15,569
be up to the fish at the end.

729
00:21:15,570 --> 00:21:16,570
He's going to win.

730
00:21:18,150 --> 00:21:19,539
Anything else that you want to add?

731
00:21:19,540 --> 00:21:21,539
Hmm, I don't think so.

732
00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:22,899
Well thank you so much for telling

733
00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:23,979
us your story.

734
00:21:23,980 --> 00:21:24,980
Oh, thank you.

735
00:21:26,180 --> 00:21:27,339
I think we're good with this part.

736
00:21:27,340 --> 00:21:29,339
I'm going to have you kind of

737
00:21:29,340 --> 00:21:30,360
walk Ethan through like...

738
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,159
And as you can see, I'm not a fish

739
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,160
mounter.

740
00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:37,359
Were those his deer down in the

741
00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:38,799
basement? Well, two out of three.

742
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,699
Oh, OK. One is mine, and one

743
00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:41,700
is mine too, or his.

744
00:21:43,020 --> 00:21:44,819
He used to mow fish all the time.

745
00:21:44,820 --> 00:21:46,699
I had some really big northerns

746
00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:48,639
that he'd had, and we had different.

747
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,299
But as they get older, and then I

748
00:21:50,300 --> 00:21:51,499
moved, and I'm like, they're not

749
00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:52,979
coming in my living room.

750
00:21:52,980 --> 00:21:54,679
I'm done with the animals in my

751
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,680
little living room!

752
00:21:57,540 --> 00:21:59,379
Can I send you guys to

753
00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:00,159
get out of the picture?

754
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,160
There we go.

755
00:22:05,730 --> 00:22:07,669
So even with your fence, you still

756
00:22:07,670 --> 00:22:08,771
get deer kind of in the grass.

757
00:22:08,772 --> 00:22:10,459
Yeah, they you know that the first

758
00:22:10,460 --> 00:22:11,899
when I first hear they wouldn't come

759
00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:12,819
through that side because it's

760
00:22:12,820 --> 00:22:14,379
pretty narrow But they come around

761
00:22:14,380 --> 00:22:15,699
they go across my front yard and

762
00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:16,859
come in this side because there was

763
00:22:16,860 --> 00:22:18,799
a wider space open But now

764
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,539
they've they've gotten so they've

765
00:22:20,540 --> 00:22:22,219
got and so they trust the narrow

766
00:22:22,220 --> 00:22:24,059
spot to I'm like

767
00:22:24,060 --> 00:22:25,659
dang it I didn't think you know at

768
00:22:25,660 --> 00:22:27,539
first I never had any and never

769
00:22:27,540 --> 00:22:28,859
had a deer in this yard till I

770
00:22:28,860 --> 00:22:30,439
planted an apple tree.

771
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,969
I planted that apple tree

772
00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:33,989
over here and do

773
00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:36,129
some show-and-tell with Ethan.

774
00:22:36,130 --> 00:22:37,549
I'll be over here, just kind of walk

775
00:22:37,550 --> 00:22:38,199
us through.

776
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,200
Okay.

777
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,719
What your world of trophies is

778
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,809
and where they came from.

779
00:22:42,810 --> 00:22:44,709
This is my wallet.

780
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:45,710
This is the wall.

781
00:22:47,050 --> 00:22:49,089
This was the first award

782
00:22:49,090 --> 00:22:50,909
I ever got with the Wisconsin Women

783
00:22:50,910 --> 00:22:52,829
Fish, and that was Rookie of the

784
00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:53,609
Year.

785
00:22:53,610 --> 00:22:55,549
I was totally blown away

786
00:22:55,550 --> 00:22:57,009
because, one, I didn't consider

787
00:22:57,010 --> 00:22:59,149
myself a rookie, and two,

788
00:22:59,150 --> 00:23:00,969
at my age, to win a Rookie

789
00:23:00,970 --> 00:23:02,989
Of The Year thing was awesome.

790
00:23:02,990 --> 00:23:04,089
You were a ringer.

791
00:23:04,090 --> 00:23:04,870
I was a ring out.

792
00:23:04,871 --> 00:23:06,260
I was a ring, yeah, there you go, I

793
00:23:06,261 --> 00:23:08,219
was ringer rookie.

794
00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:09,659
I have a lot of names at the club,

795
00:23:09,660 --> 00:23:11,439
but we won't go into that.

796
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,839
So anyway, that was the first award

797
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,779
I got.

798
00:23:13,780 --> 00:23:15,579
Let's see, the second one, let's see

799
00:23:15,580 --> 00:23:17,899
there's, these are our

800
00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:18,939
fish camp.

801
00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:21,099
We do a fall fish camp event

802
00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:21,979
every year.

803
00:23:21,980 --> 00:23:23,919
And then we have a small one

804
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,759
day tournament up there.

805
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,919
So in 2023,

806
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,959
I had the third place

807
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,519
for the pike.

808
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,479
And I had first place for walleye.

809
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,939
And then in 24,

810
00:23:37,940 --> 00:23:39,899
I had, let's see which one is

811
00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:41,839
this, walleye again for this one.

812
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,619
And then this was second place for

813
00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:45,079
panfish in 23.

814
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,959
So 23 was my really good year

815
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,399
for winning awards.

816
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,419
Last year I did,

817
00:23:51,420 --> 00:23:53,319
was runner up for master

818
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,999
angler of the year.

819
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,579
So that's my goal again this year to

820
00:23:56,580 --> 00:23:58,259
see how many master anglers I can

821
00:23:58,260 --> 00:23:59,879
get. But I keep trying.

822
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,159
When you...

823
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,919
You had a lot of years where walleye

824
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,899
was the main thing.

825
00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:05,079
Correct. Now with Master Angular,

826
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,439
it's a little more diversity.

827
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:06,440
All.

828
00:24:06,441 --> 00:24:07,149
All right.

829
00:24:07,150 --> 00:24:08,689
Are there moments where you're like,

830
00:24:08,690 --> 00:24:09,989
you know, I bet the wall I are

831
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:11,089
biting, but I'm trying to catch

832
00:24:11,090 --> 00:24:11,889
something different.

833
00:24:11,890 --> 00:24:12,190
It's hard.

834
00:24:12,191 --> 00:24:13,429
It's hard, it's hard because you

835
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:14,589
want to go fish or something you

836
00:24:14,590 --> 00:24:15,889
know you're going to catch and then

837
00:24:15,890 --> 00:24:17,529
it's like oh but I got it I got to

838
00:24:17,530 --> 00:24:19,469
move on and stuff so right

839
00:24:19,470 --> 00:24:21,449
now I'm still working on the

840
00:24:21,450 --> 00:24:23,649
walleye for this year but it

841
00:24:23,650 --> 00:24:25,529
it'll it's hard to choose which

842
00:24:25,530 --> 00:24:27,469
species and it's hard

843
00:24:27,470 --> 00:24:29,069
to catch a lot of master anglers

844
00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:30,709
when you don't have a boat.

845
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:32,549
So I rely on guides

846
00:24:32,550 --> 00:24:34,369
to take me out in their boats

847
00:24:34,370 --> 00:24:36,409
or club members that take call

848
00:24:36,410 --> 00:24:38,619
me up and take me which is awesome.

849
00:24:38,620 --> 00:24:40,879
And so, yeah, anybody that has

850
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,479
a boat and wants to take me master

851
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,259
angler fishing, I'm right there,

852
00:24:44,260 --> 00:24:45,479
take it.

853
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,359
So, but yeah, it's hard to

854
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:48,959
target a lot of those fish without a

855
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,019
boat. I do kayak fishing all

856
00:24:51,020 --> 00:24:53,059
summer and you can do some

857
00:24:53,060 --> 00:24:54,899
of them for kayak and

858
00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:56,379
I probably could be a little braver

859
00:24:56,380 --> 00:24:57,999
and do more of them, but some of the

860
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,759
waters I'm just not that comfortable

861
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,300
on by myself, so I.

862
00:25:01,301 --> 00:25:02,440
While I chop, isn't it?

863
00:25:02,441 --> 00:25:04,239
Well, we've got ladies that actually

864
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,479
salmon fish with the kayaks,

865
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,639
and they go to big waters

866
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,199
with them, and I'm just not quite

867
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,200
that brave.

868
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:15,989
No, those are, that's it, yeah.

869
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:16,990
That's it so far.

870
00:25:18,090 --> 00:25:18,829
I'm sure there'll be more.

871
00:25:18,830 --> 00:25:19,830
And I hope so!

