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Couple on the corner or something,

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but get in.

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Like normally the fish come,

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you know, around the

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bend or whatever and go up river and

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then they're going to end up

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marsh this one and

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after a while they spawn up and they

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go back down and then they're

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on the deep, deep side of

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the river and

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they're...

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Floating backwards down river,

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you know, they don't swim, but they

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do swim, but they're

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always higher up.

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Water column they might be

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six or eight feet down you

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know when they go back like now

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they're on the bottom.

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I don't know if you guys...

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Zach maybe, kid.

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I'll be too busy with this thing.

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Yeah, I ain't going to guarantee

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it gets any fish.

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No worries.

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That's because the water got so

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cold.

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Main thing

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You know a shallow over there and it

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goes down.

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It's probably.

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Six and a half or seven feet deep

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here and then on the end it's

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another foot deeper at least.

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You've got a wolf ever gone

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with a minnow on.

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Like I made this railing and...

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Oh cool.

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Like, fishing like this now,

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like I can, you know,

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move over.

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When I'm using game poles, they're

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all straight like that, and I can

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move them this way too.

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This was a pontoon.

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I used to have other rafts

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that I made that, uh...

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That were like pipe frame

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and then used barrels.

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Then I went to this one was

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it's easier.

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You used to have a Hay Wagon that

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you.

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I had to load them on

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and this

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one I made out of

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a pontoon and I made it wider and

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then I built a shack.

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Make a little shack, insulate it and

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I put metal on the outside so I

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didn't have to do nothing with it

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after a while.

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That's what the shag's all about,

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whoo!

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I thought Gary was gonna come.

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Don't really just

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sit there and jig and

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you can feel it hit bottom

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you're up and down

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Use different weights of

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jigs according to how much current

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there is.

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Anything all kinds of fish bite

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like we had some

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small mouth bass already and

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rock bass got a few walleyes

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once in a while you get a sturgeon

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on they're getting ready i

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know the dnr uh talked about

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on the news today was

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usually the

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sturgeon spawn on

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the rocks Like April 21st,

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the water's usually 55 degrees,

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but so cold that DNR said that

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they might spawn like

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a week later or something.

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All depends on the weather.

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I'll get him up all the way, Mr.

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Dugan, sure.

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So I think we might come up and have

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him stand here, I'll stand over

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there. Sure.

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But then we can have the woods

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behind him.

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You know there's an IC in the light,

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I can ask him some questions.

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Sounds good.

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I'll get the mic ready.

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You just give me a mic check once

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Are you going to hear me?

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Okay.

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So I guess, give me

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a little background on, so you

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grew up here, right?

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Yeah, I grew up knowing it all

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my, I've been here all my life,

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like my dad took me fishing

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when I was a kid, and been

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fishing all the time on rafts,

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and I made different rafts that I

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had over the years, and

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this one's

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a pontoon, made out of pontoons,

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I made it a little wider and I built

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a shack on it, I have a

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ponton trailer, which

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is easy for,

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to back under it

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and crank it up and away you go.

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I used to have to

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take my other rafts, so I'd

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jack it up and get it on that, like

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a hay wagon or something like that.

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It was a lot of work to end hauling

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around and things

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like that was harder to put in and

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out.

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Like this one too, is then

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I just, to move it,

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I take my boat and

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motor and hook on the end of

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it and then push it around.

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Like pipes in the corner, that's

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what holds it in the,

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down the corner of the raft, holds

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it in place wherever you put it

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on the river.

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And I run an extra rope to the

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shore for safety

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precautions to hold it

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in case something.

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Most of the time, the pipes don't

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slide or nothing.

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They work their way in the dirt, and

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you've got to jack them up.

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Some guys got automatic cranks on

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them and stuff.

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Here's it.

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What is it that makes fishing under

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raft unique or special about

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it?

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Well, like if it rains here, on

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this raft here, I got a little

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hangover.

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I can stand under

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the raft and

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not get as

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wet.

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The other thing, it's heated.

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I got bunk in there.

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You could always take a nap if you

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didn't have to.

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Other thing is you can

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fish all night.

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And fish, you know,

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fish bite all night sometimes.

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Especially when they're going down

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river, they're just floating by or

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whatever.

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When they're coming up, you know,

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they're swimming by and

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you never know when you're going to

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catch one.

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All depends on the

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weather and the

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temperature of the water, the spring

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and stuff.

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Of course I ice fished before

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You can catch fish anytime,

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sometimes you don't catch any.

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What was it, a pastime

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or a passion or what was it?

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Kind of like a passion and all.

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It's a passion, it's like I live

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just north of town here and we have

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property, like we own.

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My sister-in-law owns, my brother

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and sister- in-law own this land

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here and it's on the river.

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It's easy for us to either go

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hunting, we can go hunting here or

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fish off it.

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Grew up fishing, I like fishing

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different kinds of fish.

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The Wolf River is quite unique.

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Like up north, I went up there and

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fished for trout, and there's all

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kinds of fish in the river

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system.

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I hunt a lot, bullhunt a lot.

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Now I'm retired, you can fish all

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you want.

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Not that the fish are going to bite

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every day, but you

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go according to when you

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feel like you want to go.

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Usually the fish might bite

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in the morning or afternoon.

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It depends on the weather, if it's

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clear out or how clear the water is,

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different times of the year.

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Sometimes in the fall they catch a

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lot of fish,

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probably friends.

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Thing with a raft, you can,

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if you had kids, you know, you could

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take kids down there, you

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know your girlfriend or wife or

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something could sit

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in a raft and keep warm,

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they can fish too or

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whatever they want to do.

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It's a non-stop parade.

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Is that just the rain sending them

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in?

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Yeah, it's supposed to rain

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tonight and start sprinkling and

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I don't know how heavy it is but

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now they're talking about another

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storm. I don't t

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know what will happen.

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A couple weeks ago we had

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20 some inches of

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snow that one day and

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it melts and it brings the water up.

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Higher water helps

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the fishery by

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putting more water in the marshes

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so that the fish can get in and

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the water level stays higher

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so that eggs can

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hatch and the fry can float back out

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in the river.

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And that was one main thing back

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in the,

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I'm gonna say years ago there

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was a lot of fish back in 60s

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and 70s when I fished.

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And then the population kind of went

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down and then

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the conservation groups,

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like we started, you know,

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wildlife tomorrow.

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And we started working on habitat

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improvement.

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And what we did was we put some

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culverts in some places.

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Cut the bank down so

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the water goes into the marsh.

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For increased water flow

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If we cut the bank down some place

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where we're running in,

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the water flow,

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you know, keeps on going

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through the marsh longer amount of

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time.

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The fish would hatch and then the

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current would kind of

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wash them back into the river.

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Same way like the

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water table was,

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because we cut the bank, the water

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was going across the marsh a longer

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amount time than it

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would have been.

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So we improved the water flow

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and we

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got increased

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reproduction

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that helped a lot.

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Some places we put culverts in.

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Increase the water flow is

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the main thing.

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Do you think most fishermen

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understand that, you

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know, that connection from

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a marsh to a culvert to

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all the way through Lake Winnipago

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and how it's all connected?

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They probably understand that the

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fish go up river and it's

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according to water

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flow.

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Say, in wintertime

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it's frozen and the river is

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lower.

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And then all of a sudden it starts

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raining or melting and

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snow melts.

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And the river comes up and increases

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00:20:41,790 --> 00:20:43,889
the flow and all the fish

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00:20:43,890 --> 00:20:45,869
feel that flow.

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And then they head for the river and

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start swimming up river.

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And they might swim away and stop

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00:20:51,470 --> 00:20:53,549
and rest and then keep

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on traveling.

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Some of these guys got different

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kinds of boat motors here.

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This guy's going by with all the

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00:21:02,970 --> 00:21:04,530
noises of, go devils.

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Probably use it for duck hunting

316
00:21:06,770 --> 00:21:07,770
too.

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It's not like we're fishing, we're

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00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,059
waiting for fish to bite, you know,

319
00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:24,539
the fish are swimming up river yet.

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00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:25,999
We're kind of on a bend where the

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fish normally come

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00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:29,539
around the corner and keep on going

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up river.

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00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,139
There's different depths.

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It's shallow over here and then it

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00:21:33,860 --> 00:21:34,860
goes deeper.

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00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,999
And all species of

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00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,339
fish are swimming up river.

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00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:51,319
I mean, in the fall, some

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00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,499
of them go back to the lake.

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00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:54,619
They stay in the lake, bass.

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00:21:56,380 --> 00:21:57,859
After a while, later in the spring,

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all the white bass run up here to

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00:21:59,300 --> 00:22:01,159
spawn, too, a lot of

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00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,160
it.

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00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:05,519
Granted, we worked on some projects.

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00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,099
While I was working on projects, we

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00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:09,399
put a lot a reefs in Lake Winnipeg,

339
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,899
helped the saugers, you know.

340
00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:12,800
We have

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00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,259
portable fish hatcheries that we use

342
00:22:17,260 --> 00:22:20,419
on different lakes that

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00:22:20,420 --> 00:22:22,119
they take them along and take them

344
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:24,479
to different lakes and

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00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,399
hatch some of the fry from the

346
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,419
walleyes or

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00:22:28,420 --> 00:22:29,420
sawgirs.

348
00:22:31,279 --> 00:22:33,159
They can dye

349
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,179
the fry and

350
00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:38,159
the DNR takes the fish after

351
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,999
a while. What happens to

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00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,239
the dye that makes

353
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,339
a bone in the fish's

354
00:22:44,340 --> 00:22:47,209
head. The otholith bone that

355
00:22:47,210 --> 00:22:49,569
absorbs the dye,

356
00:22:49,570 --> 00:22:51,729
when we dye them when

357
00:22:51,730 --> 00:22:53,629
they're just hatched,

358
00:22:53,630 --> 00:22:54,890
makes a circle in this bone.

359
00:22:57,220 --> 00:22:58,220
Yep, wait.

360
00:23:02,750 --> 00:23:03,890
Re-dye these fish.

361
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,979
Say they raise these fish in a

362
00:23:08,980 --> 00:23:10,659
pond and they're fingerlings, you

363
00:23:10,660 --> 00:23:12,419
know, four or five inches.

364
00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:15,739
The DNR can plant them in

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00:23:15,740 --> 00:23:17,279
a lake as they die them.

366
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,659
And that die goes into the bone,

367
00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:21,879
in their otholip bone.

368
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,079
And then it's only like

369
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,679
a half moon.

370
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,719
Later on, the DNR

371
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,919
takes a sample of

372
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,799
the fish. They say they take 10 fish

373
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,339
out and they

374
00:23:34,340 --> 00:23:35,959
kill them.

375
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,299
They take the bone out and they look

376
00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:39,499
under the microscope to see if

377
00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:41,919
the fish died,

378
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,099
you know, at fingerling size or

379
00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:47,079
when it first, you know,

380
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,419
hatched.

381
00:23:48,420 --> 00:23:51,259
Then you can tell if it

382
00:23:51,260 --> 00:23:52,819
doesn't have a mark in it, it's a

383
00:23:52,820 --> 00:23:53,820
natural reproduction.

384
00:23:55,860 --> 00:23:58,039
Anyway, that's how they get their

385
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,119
ideas for...

386
00:24:01,610 --> 00:24:04,269
Amounts of fish somewhat

387
00:24:04,270 --> 00:24:06,109
gives them a

388
00:24:06,110 --> 00:24:07,110
better idea

389
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,939
Over the years, I've worked on

390
00:24:12,940 --> 00:24:13,940
other...

391
00:24:16,020 --> 00:24:18,179
Some of the marshes were mostly

392
00:24:18,180 --> 00:24:20,799
on the Wolf River and

393
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,279
really one up on the Embarrassed

394
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,280
River.

395
00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:26,119
Sometimes we try to just

396
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:26,899
cut veins down.

397
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:28,199
Sometimes we put culverts in,

398
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,199
depends on where,

399
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,239
what the situation would call

400
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,240
for.

401
00:24:34,260 --> 00:24:36,179
Like culverts are under a

402
00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:37,559
road or something, or a guy's gotta

403
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,519
drive, drive across it, yeah,

404
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,520
that's what.

405
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:44,019
We aren't doing as many as

406
00:24:44,020 --> 00:24:45,939
we're used to because of

407
00:24:45,940 --> 00:24:48,499
some regulations and

408
00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:49,839
it costs a lot of money to do.

409
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,379
We raise a lot money for our

410
00:24:51,380 --> 00:24:52,439
different chapters.

411
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,720
We raise lot of money.

412
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,999
$250,000,

413
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,819
$300,000 to $400,000 a year to

414
00:25:00,820 --> 00:25:02,899
use on projects throughout

415
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:03,900
the state.

416
00:25:08,190 --> 00:25:09,649
Sportsmen come to the banquets and

417
00:25:09,650 --> 00:25:10,650
they...

418
00:25:11,950 --> 00:25:14,209
They, you know,

419
00:25:14,210 --> 00:25:16,009
we have a meal for them in different

420
00:25:16,010 --> 00:25:17,010
areas.

421
00:25:21,030 --> 00:25:22,750
Fair prices and stop banquets, you

422
00:25:22,751 --> 00:25:25,049
know, at the banquests.

423
00:25:25,050 --> 00:25:26,130
Thought I had a nibble, but...

424
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:33,649
Some fish bite a little bit and then

425
00:25:33,650 --> 00:25:34,650
they let go.

426
00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:47,239
The big thing that affects them is

427
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,439
the temperature of the water.

428
00:25:49,820 --> 00:25:51,699
It was warm the other

429
00:25:51,700 --> 00:25:53,559
day and then cooled

430
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,240
off because we had an ice storm.

431
00:25:57,980 --> 00:25:59,839
Rain is cold and there was

432
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,339
ice went into the

433
00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:04,599
system and cooled the water off

434
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,659
and then what happens is

435
00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:07,660
the fish quit biting.

436
00:26:09,910 --> 00:26:11,789
So what's your reaction to all these

437
00:26:11,790 --> 00:26:13,789
guys and their $100,000 boats

438
00:26:13,790 --> 00:26:15,609
flying up the river while you're

439
00:26:15,610 --> 00:26:16,810
on the old shack here?

440
00:26:18,709 --> 00:26:20,809
Yeah, it's something you've

441
00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:21,810
got to put up with.

442
00:26:24,190 --> 00:26:25,489
A lot of these guys, you know, they

443
00:26:25,490 --> 00:26:27,449
hear about somebody's catching fish

444
00:26:27,450 --> 00:26:29,549
so everybody comes and

445
00:26:29,550 --> 00:26:31,489
like here, a lot of

446
00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:33,329
this people might be from

447
00:26:33,330 --> 00:26:35,489
Fox River Valley or

448
00:26:35,490 --> 00:26:37,769
different towns that they come and I

449
00:26:37,770 --> 00:26:40,469
call them tourists and

450
00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:42,469
you know granted, they catch fish

451
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:43,470
too.

452
00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:49,609
Compared to everybody else, anybody

453
00:26:49,610 --> 00:26:51,149
who wants to fish, you can fish, buy

454
00:26:51,150 --> 00:26:53,149
a license and pay your

455
00:26:53,150 --> 00:26:55,449
fees for your

456
00:26:55,450 --> 00:26:57,569
boat and fishing license and

457
00:26:57,570 --> 00:26:58,570
go fishing.

458
00:27:00,050 --> 00:27:01,149
Do you think it makes a difference

459
00:27:01,150 --> 00:27:02,889
how much it paid for your boat or

460
00:27:02,890 --> 00:27:04,269
how expensive your rod and reel

461
00:27:04,270 --> 00:27:05,128
were?

462
00:27:05,129 --> 00:27:06,849
It changed a lot,

463
00:27:07,930 --> 00:27:09,489
but I had a raft.

464
00:27:09,490 --> 00:27:11,629
It's nice going on a raft,

465
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:12,969
like we came down here today.

466
00:27:12,970 --> 00:27:15,449
We just walked down here and

467
00:27:15,450 --> 00:27:16,989
got a little boat here just paddled

468
00:27:16,990 --> 00:27:18,849
to the dock and fished off

469
00:27:18,850 --> 00:27:19,649
the dock.

470
00:27:19,650 --> 00:27:21,589
Dock's nice and sturdy, and if

471
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:24,469
we get cold, we can go inside and

472
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:26,629
get warm, or I got an oven and

473
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:28,329
a stove, and I can always cook

474
00:27:28,330 --> 00:27:29,680
something, or,

475
00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:32,050
anyway.

476
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,140
Guys in the boat can get wet, like

477
00:27:35,141 --> 00:27:36,141
stay dry.

478
00:27:38,270 --> 00:27:40,569
But it's a lot of work maintaining

479
00:27:40,570 --> 00:27:43,769
a raft and taking care of it.

480
00:27:43,770 --> 00:27:46,649
Biggest place, have some place to

481
00:27:46,650 --> 00:27:48,670
put it or attach it to property.

482
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:51,629
You can't put it on public land

483
00:27:51,630 --> 00:27:54,409
anymore or

484
00:27:54,410 --> 00:27:56,269
DNR property, this is

485
00:27:56,270 --> 00:27:57,129
on private property.

486
00:27:57,130 --> 00:27:59,269
You got to get a permit

487
00:27:59,270 --> 00:28:01,210
and permission from the landowner.

488
00:28:04,020 --> 00:28:05,919
What is it about the heritage

489
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,959
of it that makes this special

490
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,960
for you?

491
00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:11,259
Well, I know we talked a little bit

492
00:28:11,260 --> 00:28:12,459
about it before was,

493
00:28:13,460 --> 00:28:16,339
the heritage thing was from

494
00:28:16,340 --> 00:28:18,859
the logging industry in the 1880s,

495
00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:21,599
they had loggers that,

496
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,099
this system, the Wolf River system,

497
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:26,099
they cut logs up

498
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:28,099
north and they floated them down the

499
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:30,019
river to transport

500
00:28:30,020 --> 00:28:31,139
them.

501
00:28:31,140 --> 00:28:32,039
And then they brought them to

502
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,539
different sawmills along the river

503
00:28:33,540 --> 00:28:36,139
here. Some were in New London and

504
00:28:36,140 --> 00:28:38,949
Northport was a big, big logging.

505
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:40,889
Small town and

506
00:28:40,890 --> 00:28:42,929
and that's how they

507
00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:44,949
it was easier

508
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:47,289
for them to float it down the river

509
00:28:47,290 --> 00:28:49,429
these apparently the

510
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:51,329
loggers had to have some place to

511
00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:52,330
stay so they made

512
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:55,149
a shack and I

513
00:28:55,150 --> 00:28:56,569
presume they had logs and everything

514
00:28:56,570 --> 00:28:58,489
that they made rafts that they

515
00:28:58,490 --> 00:28:59,829
were on the river and they fished

516
00:28:59,830 --> 00:29:01,869
off them from home

517
00:29:01,870 --> 00:29:05,269
and for fish for food and

518
00:29:05,270 --> 00:29:07,129
one thing

519
00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:09,009
here is From what I

520
00:29:09,010 --> 00:29:11,029
always knew was

521
00:29:11,030 --> 00:29:13,169
the

522
00:29:13,170 --> 00:29:15,289
Wolf River is the only place that

523
00:29:15,290 --> 00:29:19,149
I know of, that I heard of that

524
00:29:19,150 --> 00:29:22,409
lets rafts on the river,

525
00:29:22,410 --> 00:29:24,449
that permit them,

526
00:29:24,450 --> 00:29:26,409
and so it's

527
00:29:26,410 --> 00:29:28,729
kind of a historic

528
00:29:28,730 --> 00:29:30,569
thing of the rafts of the river

529
00:29:30,570 --> 00:29:32,729
and fishermen kept them

530
00:29:32,730 --> 00:29:34,189
going nowadays.

531
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,239
It's a historic thing to keep on

532
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,240
going.

533
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:43,129
There's quite a few, you drive up

534
00:29:43,130 --> 00:29:43,599
and down, there's...

535
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,399
Yeah, yeah, there's, you know,

536
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,059
different towns, you know, they sum

537
00:29:47,060 --> 00:29:48,219
up by Horton, you know, a different

538
00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:50,079
place on the river, Chi-Octon and

539
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,479
Hortonville.

540
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,999
And south of here is Fleece's

541
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,019
Landing is a big one.

542
00:29:55,020 --> 00:29:56,899
And of course, you know, along

543
00:29:56,900 --> 00:29:58,400
the river why we go Fremont.

544
00:30:09,130 --> 00:30:11,489
So when you were a kid, was walleye

545
00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:13,369
for eating or walleye was just fun

546
00:30:13,370 --> 00:30:14,629
for catching?

547
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:16,449
Well, mainly,

548
00:30:16,450 --> 00:30:18,170
it was mainly to eat, you know, I

549
00:30:18,171 --> 00:30:20,829
mean, people didn't

550
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:22,749
have as much money as some

551
00:30:22,750 --> 00:30:23,809
of people do now,

552
00:30:24,890 --> 00:30:26,709
and you know it's just

553
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:28,409
like hunting and everything else too

554
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:30,649
was, oh.

555
00:30:32,940 --> 00:30:34,779
As a child, you know, we ate,

556
00:30:34,780 --> 00:30:36,659
and I still do, is

557
00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:38,219
we went out and shot a rabbit, we

558
00:30:38,220 --> 00:30:40,699
ate a rabbit and squirrels

559
00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:42,639
and, you know, I mean ducks and

560
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,339
pheasants and stuff like that.

561
00:30:45,340 --> 00:30:47,159
Oh, that's that's

562
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,079
what we lived on, other people did

563
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,179
too, and

564
00:30:51,180 --> 00:30:52,940
it included all types of fish.

565
00:30:58,390 --> 00:31:00,569
Whenever they caught date,

566
00:31:00,570 --> 00:31:01,570
every shot.

567
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,739
So is Huawei still

568
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:07,279
a staple in your diet, or is it more

569
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,280
of a delicacy?

570
00:31:09,850 --> 00:31:11,749
For me it's probably a staple,

571
00:31:14,850 --> 00:31:17,069
I probably eat fish

572
00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:18,909
once a week anyway.

573
00:31:18,910 --> 00:31:20,129
You can't sell me, put some in the

574
00:31:20,130 --> 00:31:21,130
freezer.

575
00:31:22,030 --> 00:31:23,789
I go trout fishing, once in a while

576
00:31:23,790 --> 00:31:25,909
I have a trout or

577
00:31:25,910 --> 00:31:27,369
you can go perch fishing in the

578
00:31:27,370 --> 00:31:29,069
winter or pan fish, whatever.

579
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,139
And you don't have to go to the

580
00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:34,140
grocery store.

581
00:31:35,330 --> 00:31:36,359
It's gonna taste good.

582
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,039
Yeah save money

583
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,959
you know I got a a little

584
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,899
nibble on this boy I don't know what

585
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:44,919
it is

586
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,499
he might be trying to bite it might

587
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:48,699
be a small

588
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:49,700
fish

589
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,659
pick it up see if I can feel it

590
00:31:53,660 --> 00:31:55,400
might be rock bass or

591
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,920
I don't know, smallmouth bass,

592
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,079
you never know what's biting.

593
00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:05,359
It's probably not a walleye, a

594
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,360
wallay would bite harder.

595
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:09,950
Nibble down a little bit.

596
00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:13,490
Minnow on there

597
00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:22,139
Well you can't fish at night, you

598
00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:23,559
got the lanterns on, you've got gas

599
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,560
lanterns for lights.

600
00:32:27,019 --> 00:32:29,159
You just, normally

601
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,999
you have minnows out for the

602
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,139
fish to wait on.

603
00:32:32,140 --> 00:32:34,699
You can jig at night if you want.

604
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:35,919
If you want to get warm, you go

605
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,920
inside.

606
00:32:38,660 --> 00:32:39,759
Get warmed up.

607
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,879
Usually you got a pole just sitting

608
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,059
and you look out in the middle and

609
00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:43,379
watch the pole as the fish bites.

610
00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:45,319
They come out and try to catch

611
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,320
them after the biting.

612
00:32:50,699 --> 00:32:52,439
What condition do you think the

613
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,319
walleye fishery would be if

614
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,859
you guys hadn't started doing what

615
00:32:55,860 --> 00:32:57,559
you were doing all that time ago

616
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,419
with the marshes and

617
00:32:59,420 --> 00:33:00,720
the column herds and all that work?

618
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,639
Well, people didn't,

619
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,539
I would say people didn, you know,

620
00:33:07,540 --> 00:33:09,439
I don't know, they knew

621
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,299
what was going on but they

622
00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:12,979
didn't you know there was a lot of

623
00:33:12,980 --> 00:33:15,579
fish and then all once

624
00:33:15,580 --> 00:33:17,920
as more and more people fished.

625
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:23,139
They caught quite of the fish

626
00:33:23,140 --> 00:33:25,059
out, and maybe they didn't

627
00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:27,079
have good

628
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,779
years where the fish spawned,

629
00:33:29,780 --> 00:33:31,099
or there wasn't a lot of

630
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:32,100
reproduction.

631
00:33:33,220 --> 00:33:35,279
So then the quantity of

632
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,239
fish went down, and then the

633
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,239
guys fishing, the fishermen realized

634
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,419
that, well, what's happening,

635
00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:42,639
you know, we aren't having really

636
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,639
good hatches for some reason.

637
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,579
Then we came up with the idea

638
00:33:46,580 --> 00:33:47,580
of.

639
00:33:47,820 --> 00:33:49,939
Helping the fish spawn for natural

640
00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:51,480
reproduction and that's where we...

641
00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:55,749
We help the fish by working on the

642
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:58,429
marshes to

643
00:33:58,430 --> 00:34:00,449
get them to spawn to

644
00:34:00,450 --> 00:34:03,089
increase the

645
00:34:03,090 --> 00:34:04,189
numbers.

646
00:34:04,190 --> 00:34:06,109
It takes a few years for

647
00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:07,949
them to grow up, of course.

648
00:34:11,580 --> 00:34:14,559
The DNR tracked them and then

649
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,678
some years you might,

650
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:17,799
you know one in three years you

651
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,399
might have a good hatch or you might

652
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,599
have a couple good years and

653
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,819
they used to count them they used to

654
00:34:22,820 --> 00:34:24,519
have a graph went to one to ten

655
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,678
after a while they

656
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,779
do trawlings, net trawling

657
00:34:28,780 --> 00:34:31,079
in Lake Minnebago and stuff places

658
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,238
in the fall to see how many

659
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,979
young in the year are and

660
00:34:35,980 --> 00:34:37,919
to see many that were

661
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,019
actually hatched

662
00:34:40,020 --> 00:34:41,020
and grew.

663
00:34:41,830 --> 00:34:43,809
And then they can tell what year was

664
00:34:43,810 --> 00:34:45,809
good or bad or whatever.

665
00:34:45,810 --> 00:34:47,709
But they had this graph 1 to 10.

666
00:34:47,710 --> 00:34:50,249
And back in the early 90s,

667
00:34:50,250 --> 00:34:51,968
they had to change the graph because

668
00:34:51,969 --> 00:34:53,549
there were so many fish because

669
00:34:53,550 --> 00:34:55,589
there had to have been

670
00:34:55,590 --> 00:34:58,169
a really good

671
00:34:58,170 --> 00:35:00,969
reproduction rate.

672
00:35:00,970 --> 00:35:03,189
And they changed the graph up

673
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:04,190
to 40.

674
00:35:06,250 --> 00:35:07,929
And it's like when they go out and

675
00:35:07,930 --> 00:35:09,749
do trolling, they put their

676
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:10,750
nets in and then.

677
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,839
And trowel.

678
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,519
They pull them and then they pull

679
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,379
them out and you count all the fish

680
00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:19,079
in there, all the minnows and

681
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,080
different kinds.

682
00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:22,419
That's where they get these numbers

683
00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:23,420
from.

684
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,019
Anyway, in the last few years,

685
00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:28,479
they had to raise their graphs again

686
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,599
because they raised it to 50

687
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,459
because we had a really

688
00:35:32,460 --> 00:35:34,719
good reproduction year.

689
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:38,539
So that's where we get the numbers

690
00:35:38,540 --> 00:35:39,379
from.

691
00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:40,390
Did you take some pride in that?

692
00:35:41,650 --> 00:35:44,509
I suppose I should, but

693
00:35:44,510 --> 00:35:47,269
it helped. A lot of people, I mean,

694
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:49,089
know that I worked on

695
00:35:49,090 --> 00:35:51,029
the river here and

696
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:53,409
worked on a sturgeon trail here.

697
00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:56,009
Normally, we all did walleye

698
00:35:56,010 --> 00:35:57,909
projects, but because I'm working on

699
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:59,949
projects, I proposed

700
00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:01,369
a sturgeon trail here, and no one

701
00:36:01,370 --> 00:36:04,069
didn't improve it.

702
00:36:04,070 --> 00:36:05,969
And all they did was put more rocks

703
00:36:05,970 --> 00:36:08,309
in there and made a trail where

704
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:10,110
people could go and.

705
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,579
Watch and see the sturgeon

706
00:36:13,580 --> 00:36:14,580
spawn.

707
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,919
The Wolf River is one river.

708
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,539
One of the five places in the world

709
00:36:20,540 --> 00:36:22,839
where you can actually see sturgeon

710
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,840
spawn.

711
00:36:25,460 --> 00:36:27,339
You know, if I'm working on

712
00:36:27,340 --> 00:36:29,359
a wall project, it's

713
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,959
right next to some of our property

714
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,799
that I said,

715
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,599
why don't we make it better for

716
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,659
Sturgeon and there's other groups,

717
00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:38,939
Sturgeons for Tomorrow worked on

718
00:36:38,940 --> 00:36:40,699
some of the other projects too that

719
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:42,199
help the Sturgins.

720
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:48,349
It's nice to see

721
00:36:48,350 --> 00:36:49,709
families come out there, they bring

722
00:36:49,710 --> 00:36:50,989
their kids out there and then they

723
00:36:50,990 --> 00:36:52,889
can see the

724
00:36:52,890 --> 00:36:54,709
fish swimming along the shore, swan

725
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:56,729
and then kids are

726
00:36:56,730 --> 00:36:58,209
yelling and screaming, look at that

727
00:36:58,210 --> 00:37:00,909
big one, look at the big one.

728
00:37:00,910 --> 00:37:03,689
So that's,

729
00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:05,649
I'm glad to see that

730
00:37:05,650 --> 00:37:07,129
in the kids' faces

731
00:37:08,350 --> 00:37:10,189
that get to see something

732
00:37:10,190 --> 00:37:11,489
that's unreal.

733
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,859
Well, how much of this is

734
00:37:17,860 --> 00:37:18,639
about kids?

735
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,819
Because a lot of times you go out

736
00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:21,579
and see, it's a bunch of old men

737
00:37:21,580 --> 00:37:23,479
fishing, but you do see

738
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,079
kids out there and there's a

739
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,199
different level of excitement with

740
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,200
that, right?

741
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,579
There's, like for on the

742
00:37:29,580 --> 00:37:30,659
Sturgeon Trail, I mean everybody

743
00:37:30,660 --> 00:37:32,699
goes out there to watch them.

744
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:33,880
Like our walleye fishing,

745
00:37:35,540 --> 00:37:37,000
or same way we could,

746
00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:40,419
when we improve a marsh,

747
00:37:40,420 --> 00:37:41,939
all kinds of fish could actually go

748
00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:43,959
into it, and like

749
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,839
northerns usually go into there,

750
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,319
and earlier, and they spawn earlier.

751
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,599
So northerners could be using a

752
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,679
marsh and then all the walleyes

753
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,680
go in there.

754
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,339
And the thing about,

755
00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:01,039
when you improve water flow across

756
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,019
the marsh, the natural

757
00:38:03,020 --> 00:38:04,919
weeds, the

758
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,099
natural vegetation filters

759
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:08,999
out some of the dirt, so actually

760
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,639
you're improving water

761
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,479
quality and,

762
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,079
I mean, people don't think about

763
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,779
that, but I know that.

764
00:38:16,780 --> 00:38:18,839
It takes some of that silt

765
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,879
and dirt and it maybe settles

766
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,799
down in there, so

767
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,699
we're helping the water quality

768
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:25,700
also.

769
00:38:29,860 --> 00:38:31,899
So how important is law

770
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:33,719
life to the identity of

771
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:34,720
this area?

772
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,439
Well, Wally's

773
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,659
probably been here forever,

774
00:38:40,660 --> 00:38:42,479
I presume, but,

775
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,480
oh.

776
00:38:44,830 --> 00:38:47,249
One of the

777
00:38:47,250 --> 00:38:49,109
groups here is,

778
00:38:49,110 --> 00:38:50,429
well, it's a fishing game called.

779
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:54,729
They have a new one in Fish and Game

780
00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:55,730
Club.

781
00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:01,339
They have a big whopper

782
00:39:01,340 --> 00:39:03,279
contest that's about, they

783
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,719
call it Big Whopper, but it's like

784
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:06,299
for walleyes.

785
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:08,699
And I presume it's almost been

786
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:10,879
happening for 50 years.

787
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,599
They, back in

788
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,559
the 60s, 1960s and 70s,

789
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,419
they put this boat

790
00:39:18,420 --> 00:39:20,239
out there with two dummies in

791
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:21,320
it, it's called Pete and Joe.

792
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,779
It's out on ice and they had

793
00:39:24,780 --> 00:39:26,839
a contest where you

794
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,539
would guess when the ice would go

795
00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:29,499
out.

796
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:31,239
And they gave prizes away for that.

797
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:34,159
So that's the thing every year,

798
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,359
they guess when the ice would go

799
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,360
out.

800
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,639
And this big whopper thing

801
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,939
was up here by

802
00:39:40,940 --> 00:39:42,219
the boat landing, they had it for

803
00:39:42,220 --> 00:39:44,199
years, was bring

804
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,679
your fish in, they register big

805
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,119
ones, little ones, whatever, give

806
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,899
prizes away.

807
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:51,559
They used to have food there,

808
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,639
and it was a fundraiser for

809
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,839
them, but a

810
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,020
lot of people came there.

811
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,599
Donated or, you know,

812
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,439
they had hamburger,

813
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,519
buffalo burgers, hamburgers,

814
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,379
whatever, you know

815
00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:09,499
other food, and

816
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:12,179
it was a fundraiser for them.

817
00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:14,159
They had a DJ

818
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,079
or music there sometimes for a

819
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,979
dance or people, a lot of people

820
00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:18,980
went there.

821
00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:22,159
It's all, it's all

822
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,159
functioning around walleye fishing

823
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,720
here on the Wolf River,

824
00:40:27,140 --> 00:40:28,109
the unique.

825
00:40:28,110 --> 00:40:30,349
It's a unique

826
00:40:30,350 --> 00:40:31,350
area.

827
00:40:33,980 --> 00:40:36,019
Granted, you can catch

828
00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:38,479
fish anywhere, almost,

829
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,899
as they move this way or that way.

830
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:42,779
You ain't gonna catch them all,

831
00:40:42,780 --> 00:40:45,259
but lucky to catch some.

832
00:40:45,260 --> 00:40:46,679
But like right now, we're doing this

833
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,639
as, the rain

834
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,559
ain't bothering us, but it's

835
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,560
the.

836
00:40:53,009 --> 00:40:55,589
Temperatures of the water and

837
00:40:55,590 --> 00:40:57,429
the weather

838
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:59,649
affects fish.

839
00:40:59,650 --> 00:41:01,389
Of course, they aren't going to bite

840
00:41:01,390 --> 00:41:03,589
every day or all the time,

841
00:41:03,590 --> 00:41:04,409
either.

842
00:41:04,410 --> 00:41:06,069
If they did, everybody would catch

843
00:41:06,070 --> 00:41:06,989
them all and then there wouldn't be

844
00:41:06,990 --> 00:41:07,990
any left.

845
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:09,869
And that's why they have

846
00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:12,509
restrictions on

847
00:41:12,510 --> 00:41:13,489
limits.

848
00:41:13,490 --> 00:41:14,689
Like years ago, you used to catch

849
00:41:14,690 --> 00:41:16,709
five, now they have three.

850
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:18,929
But because of

851
00:41:18,930 --> 00:41:20,749
increased fishing pressure, so

852
00:41:20,750 --> 00:41:21,750
many people are fishing.

853
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,059
And there's all ages of

854
00:41:26,060 --> 00:41:28,139
people. It's good that parents

855
00:41:28,140 --> 00:41:30,119
take their kids and get them

856
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,419
involved with something

857
00:41:32,420 --> 00:41:34,020
besides sitting on their telephone.

858
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:40,420
Does this have a name?

859
00:41:42,730 --> 00:41:43,730
My Shag?

860
00:41:45,610 --> 00:41:46,749
Mine. It's mine.

861
00:41:48,010 --> 00:41:49,209
Like, do you say I'm going out to

862
00:41:49,210 --> 00:41:50,309
the raft, or I'm going out the

863
00:41:50,310 --> 00:41:51,439
shack, or?

864
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,440
The rail.

865
00:41:56,030 --> 00:41:58,449
And over the years,

866
00:41:58,450 --> 00:42:00,329
I probably had one or

867
00:42:00,330 --> 00:42:02,269
two, probably four

868
00:42:02,270 --> 00:42:04,349
of them, and

869
00:42:04,350 --> 00:42:05,870
I adjusted to...

870
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,219
The sizes and

871
00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:13,119
made it easier to take and put

872
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,199
them in with this pontoon compared

873
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,299
to a regular pipe frame

874
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:19,599
one or whatever and

875
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,579
you know some

876
00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:23,499
of them use plastic barrels

877
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:25,359
or foam insulate

878
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,199
foam they had floaters

879
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,019
and different things like

880
00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:30,020
that.

881
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:33,539
You move them by,

882
00:42:33,540 --> 00:42:35,499
I use my other boat and a motor

883
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:37,339
and tie up to it and then

884
00:42:37,340 --> 00:42:38,340
I...

885
00:42:39,770 --> 00:42:42,829
Push it wherever I want to go.

886
00:42:42,830 --> 00:42:45,349
By having a pontoon trailer, I just

887
00:42:45,350 --> 00:42:47,149
back under it and crank it up when I

888
00:42:47,150 --> 00:42:49,809
take it to put it in or out.

889
00:42:49,810 --> 00:42:50,870
So it's a lot easier.

890
00:43:07,730 --> 00:43:09,149
Looks like all the fishermen got off

891
00:43:09,150 --> 00:43:10,150
the river.

892
00:43:11,279 --> 00:43:13,259
The other day when it was

893
00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:14,359
snowing and blowing there wasn't

894
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,999
anybody fishing.

895
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,659
I think they were catching fish,

896
00:43:17,660 --> 00:43:19,059
that's like some, you know, it's

897
00:43:19,060 --> 00:43:20,060
raining.

898
00:43:20,740 --> 00:43:22,639
Who's going to sit in a boat and

899
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,640
fish?

900
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,539
When it's cold out.

901
00:43:25,540 --> 00:43:27,279
A couple other guys went fishing,

902
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,840
they just went down to their rafts.

903
00:43:33,090 --> 00:43:34,749
We can take a break and go inside if

904
00:43:34,750 --> 00:43:35,750
you're on.

905
00:43:37,029 --> 00:43:38,529
We're going to shoot the end of the

906
00:43:38,530 --> 00:43:39,530
video.

907
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,339
After a while we wind

908
00:43:42,340 --> 00:43:44,319
up and check to make sure you don't

909
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,420
have a leaf on there,

910
00:43:47,340 --> 00:43:49,979
on the jig or whatever.

911
00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:51,319
The night before it was kind of cold

912
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,279
and we didn't fish for

913
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,819
a while.

914
00:43:54,820 --> 00:43:55,880
It came down imp head.

915
00:43:58,450 --> 00:44:00,409
Two inches of rain and the boat,

916
00:44:00,410 --> 00:44:01,769
I'd come down and pull the boat out

917
00:44:01,770 --> 00:44:02,770
and empty that.

918
00:44:04,330 --> 00:44:06,269
And then the weather,

919
00:44:06,270 --> 00:44:08,489
I looked at the weather you know.

920
00:44:08,490 --> 00:44:10,329
This afternoon it was nothing

921
00:44:10,330 --> 00:44:11,949
like now.

922
00:44:11,950 --> 00:44:13,050
It's supposed to keep on raining,

923
00:44:14,570 --> 00:44:15,649
raining almost all night.

924
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:20,790
Yeah, you know.

925
00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:22,930
The other thing was, uh...

926
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,319
Here was, you know, the weather for

927
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,579
the week was

928
00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:32,219
so-so and

929
00:44:32,220 --> 00:44:33,639
then a couple of nice days.

930
00:44:36,030 --> 00:44:37,929
I mean, Sunday at 52,

931
00:44:37,930 --> 00:44:39,949
will that warm up fast?

932
00:44:39,950 --> 00:44:41,809
Yeah, you know,

933
00:44:41,810 --> 00:44:42,749
the biggest thing is when the sun

934
00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:44,709
comes out, then the water will

935
00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:46,529
warm up, and

936
00:44:46,530 --> 00:44:48,169
it'll warm up to probably two

937
00:44:48,170 --> 00:44:50,569
degrees where the sun's out,

938
00:44:50,570 --> 00:44:52,429
and it might go up more if

939
00:44:52,430 --> 00:44:55,409
it's windy out at the same time,

940
00:44:55,410 --> 00:44:56,530
and the sun shining.

941
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,179
Say water is going across the marsh

942
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:02,079
somewhere, a

943
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,639
marsh is shallower and

944
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,539
the sun reflects off the dark

945
00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:09,719
bottom and warms up the water more.

946
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:13,139
Same way, dirty water warms faster

947
00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:15,019
than

948
00:45:15,020 --> 00:45:17,319
clear water because

949
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,319
light has an effect

950
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,320
on it.

951
00:45:22,910 --> 00:45:26,389
Know like here Sunday 50.

952
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:27,390
What did you think?

953
00:45:28,490 --> 00:45:30,589
The thing that affects

954
00:45:30,590 --> 00:45:31,590
fishing

955
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,080
the weather.

956
00:45:37,970 --> 00:45:39,489
I'm certain some fish are in the

957
00:45:39,490 --> 00:45:40,490
marshes already.

958
00:45:41,950 --> 00:45:43,769
The eggs in the fish aren't ready

959
00:45:43,770 --> 00:45:45,530
to spawn

960
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:50,249
because they aren't ripe

961
00:45:50,250 --> 00:45:51,250
enough.

962
00:45:52,410 --> 00:45:54,329
The fish go in them eggs ripe,

963
00:45:55,570 --> 00:45:56,570
okay?

964
00:45:57,150 --> 00:45:58,150
If you know...

965
00:46:01,370 --> 00:46:03,309
About fish eggs like

966
00:46:03,310 --> 00:46:05,369
we have these hatcheries and

967
00:46:05,370 --> 00:46:07,529
we know this they

968
00:46:07,530 --> 00:46:09,829
catch some fish with nets and

969
00:46:09,830 --> 00:46:11,209
take them to a place they spawn them

970
00:46:11,210 --> 00:46:13,349
on and take the spawn and

971
00:46:13,350 --> 00:46:15,229
they take the milk from the

972
00:46:15,230 --> 00:46:16,929
males anyway

973
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:24,259
They put the eggs in a spawning jar,

974
00:46:24,260 --> 00:46:25,759
but after a while, before they take

975
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,619
them out of the fish, they

976
00:46:27,620 --> 00:46:29,140
put them in a, like a...

977
00:46:32,420 --> 00:46:33,979
Put the eggs in there, put the milk

978
00:46:33,980 --> 00:46:34,980
in there.

979
00:46:37,170 --> 00:46:39,010
There's a hole in the egg,

980
00:46:40,930 --> 00:46:43,309
and they

981
00:46:43,310 --> 00:46:45,409
call it water hardening.

982
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:49,829
The male sperm has to go

983
00:46:49,830 --> 00:46:52,149
through this hole in the egg

984
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:54,089
within a minute because

985
00:46:54,090 --> 00:46:56,609
the water makes the

986
00:46:56,610 --> 00:46:58,589
egg close the

987
00:46:58,590 --> 00:47:00,569
hole, so it

988
00:47:00,570 --> 00:47:01,570
happens fast.

989
00:47:03,070 --> 00:47:05,149
The egg gets fertilized and

990
00:47:05,150 --> 00:47:07,429
then they put them in spawning jars.

991
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:09,269
They run current, water current,

992
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:11,129
through it and it's

993
00:47:11,130 --> 00:47:12,709
oxygenated.

994
00:47:13,710 --> 00:47:15,530
And then, you know, we...

995
00:47:17,660 --> 00:47:19,499
They hatch and the

996
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:21,999
fry will come out and it has a

997
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,619
little belly sack on it,

998
00:47:24,620 --> 00:47:26,459
makes it float and probably

999
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:28,419
bounces up and down and in a marsh

1000
00:47:28,420 --> 00:47:29,420
it would...

1001
00:47:31,350 --> 00:47:33,169
The current would flush them back

1002
00:47:33,170 --> 00:47:34,989
into the river system.

1003
00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:36,269
They'd feed off the sack for a

1004
00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:37,609
while, and then they'd start eating

1005
00:47:37,610 --> 00:47:38,610
zoologactin.

1006
00:47:41,169 --> 00:47:42,909
Organic food, you know, through the

1007
00:47:42,910 --> 00:47:44,769
system, and they flow back to

1008
00:47:44,770 --> 00:47:45,770
the lake.

1009
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:51,029
Yeah, we got to see the process last

1010
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:53,729
year down by West Bend, a big cedar.

1011
00:47:53,730 --> 00:47:55,189
On one of the fish hatcheries?

1012
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:56,609
Yep. Yeah.

1013
00:47:56,610 --> 00:47:58,049
Because they put them in them jars

1014
00:47:58,050 --> 00:48:00,029
and, I don't know, was Mike there

1015
00:48:00,030 --> 00:48:00,459
or?

1016
00:48:00,460 --> 00:48:02,359
Yep, Mike, Tom,

1017
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,360
and Kevin.

1018
00:48:04,170 --> 00:48:05,249
Given the days that I'm there.

1019
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:10,169
Yeah, they move them

1020
00:48:10,170 --> 00:48:12,029
for the fish hatcheries in different

1021
00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:13,030
lakes, you know,

1022
00:48:14,050 --> 00:48:15,869
so that helps wherever

1023
00:48:15,870 --> 00:48:17,789
they want to, they don't have

1024
00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:18,790
them.

1025
00:48:20,090 --> 00:48:22,009
They have different, you know,

1026
00:48:22,010 --> 00:48:22,909
different chapters through the

1027
00:48:22,910 --> 00:48:23,910
state.

1028
00:48:32,149 --> 00:48:33,590
When at some of them nights.

1029
00:48:35,790 --> 00:48:37,929
We want the water to, their head's

1030
00:48:37,930 --> 00:48:39,909
pointing up river, and the

1031
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:41,869
thing about a walleye is as his

1032
00:48:41,870 --> 00:48:43,849
eyes are on, somewhat on

1033
00:48:43,850 --> 00:48:46,269
the top of his head,

1034
00:48:46,270 --> 00:48:47,270
he's looking up.

1035
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,259
It's better to fish higher

1036
00:48:51,260 --> 00:48:53,299
than lower,

1037
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:55,239
because the fish might go by.

1038
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:56,319
That's why I got some cane coals

1039
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,259
over here.

1040
00:48:57,260 --> 00:48:58,799
I brought a couple down here.

1041
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,599
You got different amounts of line.

1042
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,059
You use short pole, long pole, short

1043
00:49:02,060 --> 00:49:03,419
pole long pole.

1044
00:49:03,420 --> 00:49:05,359
So you're fishing

1045
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,999
different areas and fishing

1046
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,119
different depths.

1047
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,119
And I got my sinker guide.

1048
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,259
I make my own sinker.

1049
00:49:12,260 --> 00:49:14,139
This is, you

1050
00:49:14,140 --> 00:49:16,079
can spin it

1051
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,269
lower.

1052
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:19,109
Different types of quads and some

1053
00:49:19,110 --> 00:49:21,329
of them, they've

1054
00:49:21,330 --> 00:49:22,449
got different wheels on them, the

1055
00:49:22,450 --> 00:49:24,309
wiggle bar or rattle, stuff

1056
00:49:24,310 --> 00:49:26,149
like that.

1057
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:27,409
According to the height of the

1058
00:49:27,410 --> 00:49:28,410
water,

1059
00:49:30,210 --> 00:49:32,209
the current makes lures

1060
00:49:32,210 --> 00:49:33,210
of wiggle bar,

1061
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:35,630
or less, and stuff like that.

1062
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,200
It's quite difficult, isn't it?

1063
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:41,480
Things like that.

1064
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,319
Is it the males that bite more on

1065
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:49,789
the way up?

1066
00:49:49,790 --> 00:49:51,709
Natural things that tell you

1067
00:49:51,710 --> 00:49:54,189
what's happening is

1068
00:49:54,190 --> 00:49:56,089
in the spring almost

1069
00:49:56,090 --> 00:49:57,429
you get a whole bunch of flock

1070
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:59,189
there's granite in the Fox Valley

1071
00:49:59,190 --> 00:50:00,409
because there's so much water

1072
00:50:00,410 --> 00:50:01,469
there's

1073
00:50:03,610 --> 00:50:06,009
there's geese around but

1074
00:50:06,010 --> 00:50:07,629
almost you see a bunch of geese

1075
00:50:07,630 --> 00:50:09,709
flying north in the spring

1076
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:11,709
and that's when I mean

1077
00:50:11,710 --> 00:50:13,369
flock after flock after the flock

1078
00:50:13,370 --> 00:50:18,369
and that is when the

1079
00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:24,119
after the walleye spawn, as long as

1080
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,679
you get another bunch of, more geese

1081
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,639
would be flying up north,

1082
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,359
you know, flock after flock when

1083
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,539
it's warmer.

1084
00:50:30,540 --> 00:50:31,639
That's when the walleyes are going

1085
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,640
back down then.

1086
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:35,319
The other natural thing is

1087
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,179
you haven't seen a

1088
00:50:37,180 --> 00:50:38,180
frog yet.

1089
00:50:38,980 --> 00:50:40,399
When the water gets warm,

1090
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,339
the frogs come out of hibernation,

1091
00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:46,179
the frogs are croaking,

1092
00:50:46,180 --> 00:50:48,079
and that's, you know like a

1093
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,119
There's some female

1094
00:50:51,220 --> 00:50:53,159
Wally's been spawned yet, so they

1095
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,479
hang around in the march.

1096
00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:57,739
Also, females are all gone.

1097
00:50:57,740 --> 00:50:59,179
Then the males hang in there.

1098
00:50:59,180 --> 00:51:01,059
They might be eating frogs, frogs or

1099
00:51:01,060 --> 00:51:01,999
minnows.

1100
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,099
Then they'll come out.

1101
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,399
But the main run is,

1102
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,439
it seems like, after the

1103
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,359
sturgeon spawn, and

1104
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,199
the sturgeons spawn at 52

1105
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,619
to 55 degrees.

1106
00:51:13,620 --> 00:51:15,079
How's that burst going down?

1107
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,760
After a while, you get males.

1108
00:51:44,660 --> 00:51:46,159
It's really crappy up there.

1109
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,619
Yeah, it just came down.

1110
00:51:47,620 --> 00:51:49,519
It's too bad, so I wanna, we know

1111
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,759
where it is, but I wanna get a drone

1112
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,059
shot of this thing too.

1113
00:51:52,060 --> 00:51:53,060
Yeah.

1114
00:51:56,270 --> 00:51:57,649
You guys want a pop?

1115
00:51:57,650 --> 00:51:59,169
We got a Pepsi here about to do it.

1116
00:51:59,170 --> 00:52:00,349
I'm good. I'm great.

1117
00:52:00,350 --> 00:52:01,350
Thanks. Thank you

1118
00:52:07,730 --> 00:52:10,869
when a while ago when

1119
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:12,829
I talk a lot I get horse

1120
00:52:12,830 --> 00:52:15,449
I don't know why and

1121
00:52:15,450 --> 00:52:17,329
I never did

1122
00:52:17,330 --> 00:52:19,149
but it's not from talking

1123
00:52:19,150 --> 00:52:20,389
too much I don't know if I had

1124
00:52:22,580 --> 00:52:24,519
I haven't had COVID or nothing,

1125
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,660
but I ask my brother, the doctor,

1126
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,319
what's

1127
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:32,619
in my house.

1128
00:52:32,620 --> 00:52:34,819
You know, the air is so dry that

1129
00:52:34,820 --> 00:52:37,079
it could be affecting,

1130
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,879
you know, that.

1131
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,039
And I, when

1132
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,179
I'm sleeping too, I might, I

1133
00:52:43,180 --> 00:52:44,659
may be breathing through my mouth

1134
00:52:44,660 --> 00:52:45,259
more.

1135
00:52:45,260 --> 00:52:45,529
Mm-hmm.

1136
00:52:45,530 --> 00:52:47,849
Come over your nose and

1137
00:52:47,850 --> 00:52:49,209
I wake up and I get kind of like a

1138
00:52:49,210 --> 00:52:50,569
drive.

1139
00:52:50,570 --> 00:52:52,249
I don't know if I snore or I'm

1140
00:52:52,250 --> 00:52:53,250
sleeping.

1141
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,839
Over the years, I learned

1142
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,319
how to make

1143
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,320
the railing work.

1144
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:16,689
I fished fishing down in

1145
00:53:16,690 --> 00:53:17,690
the bow coast.

1146
00:53:18,510 --> 00:53:20,429
Then I got, you know, use

1147
00:53:20,430 --> 00:53:21,949
a short pole.

1148
00:53:21,950 --> 00:53:23,869
That's like my poles, I got them

1149
00:53:23,870 --> 00:53:24,870
all.

1150
00:53:26,030 --> 00:53:28,449
21 here by the window,

1151
00:53:28,450 --> 00:53:29,450
a couple over here.

1152
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,479
Feels like the odds are slim we're

1153
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,480
going to get a fish today.

1154
00:53:58,750 --> 00:54:01,389
It's got 12 feet of line on.

1155
00:54:01,390 --> 00:54:02,550
Like this other one,

1156
00:54:03,790 --> 00:54:06,129
it's got 10 feet of line on,

1157
00:54:06,130 --> 00:54:07,130
and uh...

1158
00:54:09,620 --> 00:54:11,059
That's how deep one fish is.

1159
00:54:14,529 --> 00:54:16,529
Say I have some other pole,

1160
00:54:16,530 --> 00:54:18,449
they're 20 feet long, I have a

1161
00:54:18,450 --> 00:54:20,029
long pole and then a short pole, I

1162
00:54:20,030 --> 00:54:21,809
fish like this, you know, or

1163
00:54:21,810 --> 00:54:22,810
shorter.

1164
00:54:23,610 --> 00:54:25,369
Let's say they're four feet down or

1165
00:54:25,370 --> 00:54:26,209
six feet.

1166
00:54:26,210 --> 00:54:28,229
It's like if I got eight feet

1167
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:30,709
of line out, and from here

1168
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:32,589
it hangs down, there's about

1169
00:54:32,590 --> 00:54:34,469
two feet of a line

1170
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:37,129
out of the water,

1171
00:54:37,130 --> 00:54:39,109
roughly, and it goes down on

1172
00:54:39,110 --> 00:54:40,110
the angle.

1173
00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:43,819
That means I got six feet out,

1174
00:54:43,820 --> 00:54:45,719
you know, an eight footer.

1175
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:47,699
That means that I got 6 feet of

1176
00:54:47,700 --> 00:54:50,219
line in the water

1177
00:54:50,220 --> 00:54:51,319
and goes down the angle.

1178
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,799
I might only be fishing 4 feet deep.

1179
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,419
It doesn't mean I'm fishing 8 feet

1180
00:54:55,420 --> 00:54:57,559
deep, I'm fishin' I'm on a

1181
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,560
45 degree angle.

1182
00:54:59,990 --> 00:55:01,510
Especially the current taking.

1183
00:55:05,470 --> 00:55:07,429
Some of these guys, to find out

1184
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:08,929
where the fish are going by, to give

1185
00:55:08,930 --> 00:55:10,909
you a rough idea, they take a cane

1186
00:55:10,910 --> 00:55:12,789
pole and I have someone

1187
00:55:12,790 --> 00:55:13,849
too.

1188
00:55:13,850 --> 00:55:14,850
They put a...

1189
00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:17,380
Swivel on it.

1190
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,719
I'd say they got the swivel

1191
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:23,859
down at eight feet,

1192
00:55:23,860 --> 00:55:26,139
another one at 10,

1193
00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:26,979
another at 12.

1194
00:55:26,980 --> 00:55:28,299
There's different projects I worked

1195
00:55:28,300 --> 00:55:29,300
on, so.

1196
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,039
So on Easter, is this going to be

1197
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,429
crowded out here still?

1198
00:55:44,430 --> 00:55:45,430
Well,

1199
00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:48,929
they'll be probably busy,

1200
00:55:48,930 --> 00:55:51,409
you know, because everybody's

1201
00:55:51,410 --> 00:55:53,069
gotten off from work and the kids

1202
00:55:53,070 --> 00:55:55,429
are off yet, I think.

1203
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:56,869
I don't know, a day or two after

1204
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:58,010
maybe or something.

1205
00:56:01,530 --> 00:56:02,989
I don't know how many fish they'll

1206
00:56:02,990 --> 00:56:03,990
catch,

1207
00:56:04,990 --> 00:56:06,469
but they could catch quite a few.

1208
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,008
Are you going to be out on Easter?

1209
00:56:11,009 --> 00:56:12,309
Yeah, well, I'll be out here every

1210
00:56:12,310 --> 00:56:14,160
day, probably.

1211
00:56:16,770 --> 00:56:19,969
And I might be, well,

1212
00:56:19,970 --> 00:56:21,369
probably within a week I'll move by

1213
00:56:21,370 --> 00:56:22,989
the house.

1214
00:56:25,530 --> 00:56:27,569
Here, some guys might

1215
00:56:27,570 --> 00:56:29,489
be catching a spawned-out

1216
00:56:29,490 --> 00:56:31,229
fish. Well, then I'll never be able

1217
00:56:31,230 --> 00:56:32,230
to depopulate it.

1218
00:57:00,830 --> 00:57:01,830
You

1219
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,979
Like that was some template bio

1220
00:57:08,980 --> 00:57:10,859
and kind of

1221
00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:11,860
a political thing.

1222
00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:17,239
More time to all the other fish go

1223
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,299
to the reefs.

1224
00:57:19,300 --> 00:57:20,960
We quit doing it when,

1225
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,080
and,

1226
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,359
uh, we used to take a dump truck out

1227
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,459
there and then dump, cut a hole and

1228
00:57:27,460 --> 00:57:29,439
they'd back up and dump the rock

1229
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,440
in.

1230
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:32,580
Then one day,

1231
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,359
I was going out there years ago

1232
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,399
and ice cracked and the truck went

1233
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,559
through and the guy was in

1234
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,500
the truck drum.

1235
00:57:43,660 --> 00:57:45,069
We quit.

1236
00:57:45,070 --> 00:57:46,929
They hauled some rocks out on some

1237
00:57:46,930 --> 00:57:48,709
sleds and dumped them in half of

1238
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:51,089
that, but then the mechanic was

1239
00:57:51,090 --> 00:57:52,090
doing it.

1240
00:57:53,810 --> 00:57:55,149
And some of the reefs, a couple of

1241
00:57:55,150 --> 00:57:57,129
reefs were a mile long

1242
00:57:57,130 --> 00:57:59,049
that they put all the rocks in.

1243
00:57:59,050 --> 00:58:00,689
And that's where they died, they did

1244
00:58:00,690 --> 00:58:02,829
saugers, they helped sauger, they

1245
00:58:02,830 --> 00:58:03,871
died them, you know.

1246
00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:06,769
All once, they caught them once, you

1247
00:58:06,770 --> 00:58:09,389
take ten saugars and

1248
00:58:09,390 --> 00:58:11,329
kill them and you know,

1249
00:58:11,330 --> 00:58:12,330
look under a microscope.

1250
00:58:13,810 --> 00:58:15,629
We took some hatcheries and re-dyed

1251
00:58:15,630 --> 00:58:17,469
them, you know, put them 20

1252
00:58:17,470 --> 00:58:19,289
yards, almost like hats, they go and

1253
00:58:19,290 --> 00:58:21,249
put them in a little tub, like

1254
00:58:21,250 --> 00:58:22,509
something so they don't get water

1255
00:58:22,510 --> 00:58:23,570
running in and out.

1256
00:58:25,450 --> 00:58:27,569
And then in their head,

1257
00:58:27,570 --> 00:58:30,429
was almost about 80% of them were

1258
00:58:30,430 --> 00:58:31,629
the ones we hatched.

1259
00:58:32,670 --> 00:58:34,789
So they knew the reefs were working,

1260
00:58:34,790 --> 00:58:36,669
so I mean.

1261
00:58:36,670 --> 00:58:38,329
Then they died some other ones, but

1262
00:58:38,330 --> 00:58:39,509
yeah.

1263
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:40,749
And then after a while they watched,

1264
00:58:40,750 --> 00:58:42,449
because they took some more and then

1265
00:58:42,450 --> 00:58:43,699
almost there's...

1266
00:58:43,700 --> 00:58:45,319
More and more of the fish were,

1267
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,299
didn't have a, well we quit dying

1268
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:50,539
them, more and more fish didn't

1269
00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:52,459
have any die in them, so it was

1270
00:58:52,460 --> 00:58:54,019
more natural reproduction, so we

1271
00:58:54,020 --> 00:58:55,099
helped in one of them.

1272
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,359
We were, we told them what for, and

1273
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,979
they went, what's really in it, some

1274
00:59:03,980 --> 00:59:04,980
money.

1275
00:59:10,140 --> 00:59:11,380
That's what that is, aren't ya?

1276
00:59:12,980 --> 00:59:13,899
That's a...

1277
00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:15,239
Yeah, it's still rolling along,

1278
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,199
isn't it? It's a

1279
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,379
pipe roll.

1280
00:59:18,380 --> 00:59:19,380
It's called a pipe-roll.

1281
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:26,239
Actually, this one, didn't

1282
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,619
read it, read it.

1283
00:59:27,620 --> 00:59:29,719
It was laid

1284
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,899
out here on the end,

1285
00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:33,779
didn't read it?

1286
00:59:33,780 --> 00:59:34,649
Get in the plate.

1287
00:59:34,650 --> 00:59:35,789
Okay

1288
00:59:35,790 --> 00:59:36,790
There's a hush, guys.

1289
00:59:38,070 --> 00:59:39,609
Logging tool company, hashtag

1290
00:59:39,610 --> 00:59:40,610
Wisconsin.

1291
00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:45,059
And this thing

1292
00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:46,499
sure is over 100 years old.

1293
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,960
I don't know what I got it

1294
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:53,319
my dad

1295
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,798
and uh I don't know where he is

1296
00:59:56,799 --> 00:59:58,719
I'm vlogging here I

1297
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,778
just have it here when logs go

1298
01:00:00,779 --> 01:00:02,159
by.

1299
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,679
Logs go by, get hooked on

1300
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,539
the raft, or chunks of

1301
01:00:06,540 --> 01:00:08,879
ice, and push it out.

1302
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,278
I'm sure the thing's 100 years old,

1303
01:00:11,279 --> 01:00:12,278
or probably more.

1304
01:00:12,279 --> 01:00:13,420
Yeah, the rain is pretty good.

1305
01:00:32,690 --> 01:00:34,250
This made it miserable.

1306
01:00:36,890 --> 01:00:38,409
But we got what we can get.

1307
01:00:38,410 --> 01:00:39,649
Yeah, it's pretty cool stuff, but

1308
01:00:39,650 --> 01:00:41,849
it'd be nice to catch a fish or two.

1309
01:00:41,850 --> 01:00:43,369
Yeah, I don't see that happening.

1310
01:00:43,370 --> 01:00:46,289
No, obviously we'll get like some,

1311
01:00:46,290 --> 01:00:47,889
um, I could get some different shots

1312
01:00:47,890 --> 01:00:49,289
of this thing, but I don't know how

1313
01:00:49,290 --> 01:00:51,129
we, if it's really sunny when we

1314
01:00:51,130 --> 01:00:52,149
do that, we'll just have to be

1315
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:54,129
conscious of maybe, you know,

1316
01:00:54,130 --> 01:00:55,189
getting a shot of the clouds going

1317
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:55,590
by or something.

1318
01:00:55,591 --> 01:00:56,789
Well, I think he can always

1319
01:00:56,790 --> 01:00:57,909
reference it, he's out there every

1320
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:58,679
day.

1321
01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,979
Yep, yep, cool, yeah.

1322
01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:13,798
I think it's, say, another five

1323
01:01:13,799 --> 01:01:15,419
hours of another bite.

1324
01:01:15,420 --> 01:01:17,019
No, there's something kind of

1325
01:01:17,020 --> 01:01:18,798
meditative almost about this little

1326
01:01:18,799 --> 01:01:19,639
thing. Take a nap?

1327
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,679
Yeah, put pizza in

1328
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,559
there, then put your rods

1329
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:24,560
back out there.

1330
01:01:25,580 --> 01:01:27,679
That's a lot like ice fishing.

1331
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:28,519
Is that it, the height?

1332
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,519
100 percent.

1333
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,159
But this is, I think, even more

1334
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,519
compelling for someone who doesn't

1335
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:33,719
know fish much.

1336
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,798
That versus ice fishing, I don't

1337
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:36,439
know. Okay.

1338
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,039
Does ice fishing is too cold or?

1339
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,258
There's something about the water

1340
01:01:40,259 --> 01:01:41,199
being open. Okay.

1341
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,028
I think that.

1342
01:01:42,029 --> 01:01:43,829
It's more of a mystery, and it's

1343
01:01:43,830 --> 01:01:45,189
like, hmm, fish are out there

1344
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:46,249
somewhere. We're obviously there

1345
01:01:46,250 --> 01:01:47,849
swimming around under the ice too,

1346
01:01:47,850 --> 01:01:49,008
but it's just like... Well, I think

1347
01:01:49,009 --> 01:01:50,249
a river is different because it's

1348
01:01:50,250 --> 01:01:51,309
always different fish.

1349
01:01:51,310 --> 01:01:53,129
There's a lake, it's the fish

1350
01:01:53,130 --> 01:01:54,130
that are right here.

1351
01:02:04,180 --> 01:02:06,278
No, it's pretty interesting, yeah.

1352
01:02:06,279 --> 01:02:07,579
Seeing all of Wisconsin's fishing

1353
01:02:07,580 --> 01:02:08,580
culture.

1354
01:02:09,299 --> 01:02:10,299
Pretty cool.

1355
01:02:23,790 --> 01:02:25,809
Ron Gokos up here, all those

1356
01:02:25,810 --> 01:02:27,929
sturgeon, because Lake

1357
01:02:27,930 --> 01:02:30,089
Winnebago has the most

1358
01:02:30,090 --> 01:02:31,090
sturgeon in the...

1359
01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:36,719
Populated, a lot of students

1360
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:37,880
didn't make my video.

1361
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,298
These DNR guys, if

1362
01:02:44,299 --> 01:02:45,140
any of them get a name, they

1363
01:02:45,141 --> 01:02:46,319
probably know who I am.

1364
01:02:47,900 --> 01:02:48,900
Oh.

1365
01:02:49,940 --> 01:02:51,258
What are they?

1366
01:02:51,259 --> 01:02:52,259
Kazul.

1367
01:02:52,900 --> 01:02:54,699
Kazul or whatever his name is.

1368
01:03:07,700 --> 01:03:09,599
You get out and start walking,

1369
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:10,600
there's, you got to.