1
00:00:08,940 --> 00:00:10,359
There he is, coming up.

2
00:00:12,700 --> 00:00:14,679
I hope you know, it's

3
00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,519
like coconut and lemon and

4
00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,399
it's really happening on

5
00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,400
the third family.

6
00:00:25,439 --> 00:00:27,559
Cucumbers, there's a big cucumber in

7
00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,560
there.

8
00:00:50,940 --> 00:00:52,299
Is there anyone over there?

9
00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,240
All that's going on.

10
00:00:59,130 --> 00:01:01,929
He's like, Marcus is on TV,

11
00:01:01,930 --> 00:01:03,789
don't leave me on TV guys, is that

12
00:01:03,790 --> 00:01:04,790
probably?

13
00:01:12,590 --> 00:01:14,429
We usually

14
00:01:14,430 --> 00:01:15,409
do.

15
00:01:15,410 --> 00:01:17,030
Usually we're rockin' out here.

16
00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,779
You want this to be accurate, right?

17
00:01:25,780 --> 00:01:27,459
Well, we'd like it to be as good

18
00:01:27,460 --> 00:01:28,460
as...

19
00:01:28,810 --> 00:01:30,829
Yeah, like they want to be able

20
00:01:30,830 --> 00:01:32,650
to like pick pick up stuff

21
00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,609
not copyrighted this year.

22
00:01:36,610 --> 00:01:38,090
PLEASE SUBSCRIBE!

23
00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,700
Maybe after I do the first batch.

24
00:01:43,740 --> 00:01:45,439
Cuz I still got up

25
00:01:47,100 --> 00:01:48,100
Yeah

26
00:01:54,190 --> 00:01:55,169
Okay, yeah.

27
00:01:55,170 --> 00:01:57,170
I gotta get in here and I gotta...

28
00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,419
Um, yeah, actually, it'll

29
00:02:02,420 --> 00:02:03,779
be quicker than that, because you'll

30
00:02:03,780 --> 00:02:04,599
be here.

31
00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,779
Oh, okay.

32
00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:07,159
So it'll probably be more like maybe

33
00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,339
like an hour and a half, if that.

34
00:02:09,340 --> 00:02:10,698
So we could do two hours.

35
00:02:10,699 --> 00:02:12,079
Because I don't got to stop

36
00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,239
fileting.

37
00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,199
Yeah. Because you'll there writing

38
00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,159
everything down.

39
00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,739
I don't t got to filet and I just

40
00:02:17,740 --> 00:02:19,259
got to filet and then hand you

41
00:02:19,260 --> 00:02:20,339
everything.

42
00:02:20,340 --> 00:02:21,649
That's what I'm trying to do.

43
00:02:21,650 --> 00:02:24,529
That's what I'm doing right now.

44
00:02:24,530 --> 00:02:26,409
Or else I wouldn't be able

45
00:02:26,410 --> 00:02:27,410
to do it.

46
00:02:38,050 --> 00:02:40,069
They're due this Friday, so...

47
00:02:42,299 --> 00:02:43,299
Look at that.

48
00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,480
So familiar.

49
00:03:28,170 --> 00:03:29,170
The best way.

50
00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:44,069
But yeah, that's what I usually do

51
00:03:44,070 --> 00:03:45,489
when I come in.

52
00:03:45,490 --> 00:03:47,209
I start doing that.

53
00:03:47,210 --> 00:03:49,829
I didn't even, just like today,

54
00:03:49,830 --> 00:03:51,209
I didn't even write down when I came

55
00:03:51,210 --> 00:03:52,929
in yet. I usually all this stuff

56
00:03:52,930 --> 00:03:54,449
first and then I write down when I'm

57
00:03:54,450 --> 00:03:55,450
coming.

58
00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,579
Because this stuff usually takes

59
00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:03,099
like an hour to thaw, but these have

60
00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:05,199
been sitting out since last night.

61
00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:05,999
I thought they would have been

62
00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,000
cleaned out.

63
00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,619
We still got to clean them out.

64
00:04:10,290 --> 00:04:13,019
Is that commentary for someone?

65
00:04:13,020 --> 00:04:14,020
No.

66
00:04:16,620 --> 00:04:18,379
There's just a lot of stuff that's

67
00:04:18,380 --> 00:04:19,380
going on.

68
00:04:29,860 --> 00:04:30,860
Reminiscence

69
00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:43,169
I've known Jake since I was a little

70
00:04:43,170 --> 00:04:44,170
kid.

71
00:04:47,010 --> 00:04:48,169
It was kind of the one of the

72
00:04:48,170 --> 00:04:49,589
reasons why I wanted to start

73
00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:50,590
working here.

74
00:04:54,410 --> 00:04:55,389
Jake?

75
00:04:55,390 --> 00:04:57,369
Yeah, I just remember I was

76
00:04:57,370 --> 00:04:58,749
like, Jake, what do you do for work?

77
00:04:58,750 --> 00:04:59,969
Like when I was in like middle

78
00:04:59,970 --> 00:05:01,929
school and stuff and, oh, I work at

79
00:05:01,930 --> 00:05:02,769
Glyphway.

80
00:05:02,770 --> 00:05:03,770
Oh, I really would like.

81
00:05:06,780 --> 00:05:09,019
I'm like, dang, that's a cool job.

82
00:05:09,020 --> 00:05:09,839
He's like, yeah.

83
00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:10,959
He's, like, you worked there long

84
00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,199
enough, you just stand there out,

85
00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,599
and they just tell you to come work

86
00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,459
for them. I was like, all right,

87
00:05:15,460 --> 00:05:16,460
awesome.

88
00:05:35,980 --> 00:05:37,359
I don't know if you're shopping or

89
00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,629
not.

90
00:05:39,630 --> 00:05:41,249
Yeah those shotgun bullets are

91
00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:42,250
pretty fun.

92
00:05:43,250 --> 00:05:44,689
You guys are going to be out on the

93
00:05:44,690 --> 00:05:45,869
shotgun bullets too huh?

94
00:05:45,870 --> 00:05:46,870
Yeah, I'm off to over.

95
00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,639
We're going, oh yeah, this spring.

96
00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,969
Army fall, my bad.

97
00:05:52,970 --> 00:05:53,970
Oh

98
00:05:54,570 --> 00:05:57,469
I was out there in the springtime,

99
00:05:57,470 --> 00:05:59,109
that's when we're catching like big

100
00:05:59,110 --> 00:06:00,569
monster ones.

101
00:06:00,570 --> 00:06:01,889
You guys will be watching them catch

102
00:06:01,890 --> 00:06:03,009
like little ones out there.

103
00:06:10,770 --> 00:06:12,449
On those ones those ones are fresh

104
00:06:12,450 --> 00:06:14,389
these ones aren't so fresh.

105
00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:16,469
I don't know when they caught these

106
00:06:16,470 --> 00:06:17,629
ones or how long they've been

107
00:06:17,630 --> 00:06:18,630
chilling

108
00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,419
Because usually on the fresh ones

109
00:06:22,420 --> 00:06:24,979
we'll like take the cheeks off too,

110
00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,960
because why not?

111
00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,359
Not for testing them?

112
00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,039
No. No, great.

113
00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,099
Nice.

114
00:06:34,100 --> 00:06:35,859
Yeah. Just a little extra, little

115
00:06:35,860 --> 00:06:36,860
extra snack.

116
00:06:37,940 --> 00:06:38,940
That was a piece.

117
00:06:41,230 --> 00:06:42,969
Well, we gave some to Michigan

118
00:06:42,970 --> 00:06:44,789
First, for helping us.

119
00:06:44,790 --> 00:06:45,869
That's what it is.

120
00:06:45,870 --> 00:06:46,889
We have to feed them?

121
00:06:46,890 --> 00:06:47,890
Yeah.

122
00:06:49,790 --> 00:06:51,689
Yeah, when I was down at Ceremonies,

123
00:06:51,690 --> 00:06:53,329
I seen Acey Bond down there and he

124
00:06:53,330 --> 00:06:55,349
said that they cooked some up for

125
00:06:55,350 --> 00:06:56,350
uh...

126
00:07:01,010 --> 00:07:02,249
Yeah, and then every time you

127
00:07:02,250 --> 00:07:04,369
transport these, I don't know why,

128
00:07:04,370 --> 00:07:05,849
just cause they're fish I guess, but

129
00:07:05,850 --> 00:07:07,669
they always got like slime on them,

130
00:07:08,910 --> 00:07:10,929
and you gotta clean them off

131
00:07:10,930 --> 00:07:12,669
or else when I'm fileting, I mean it

132
00:07:12,670 --> 00:07:14,170
already gets pretty slimy,

133
00:07:15,230 --> 00:07:17,249
but it'd

134
00:07:17,250 --> 00:07:19,049
get mega slimy if I didn't clean all

135
00:07:19,050 --> 00:07:20,690
this like, scum off of here.

136
00:07:24,130 --> 00:07:25,749
The fish should just be sliding all

137
00:07:25,750 --> 00:07:26,750
over the place.

138
00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:29,159
Hopefully this will be flying off

139
00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,160
the table.

140
00:08:09,420 --> 00:08:10,679
What the heck were they doing with

141
00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:11,680
this one?

142
00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,800
Thank you.

143
00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:22,459
We try to get 12

144
00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:24,459
fish a lake, sometimes

145
00:09:24,460 --> 00:09:25,460
we don't.

146
00:09:27,250 --> 00:09:28,799
Will you get 12 big fish?

147
00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,739
And we try to get the bigger fish.

148
00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,340
Bigger is better.

149
00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,319
We got tapeworm in there.

150
00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,279
Karen didn't know these had

151
00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,619
tapeworms in them.

152
00:09:39,620 --> 00:09:41,339
When she came out with us, jockeying

153
00:09:41,340 --> 00:09:43,779
on the boat in the springtime,

154
00:09:43,780 --> 00:09:45,939
we caught a pretty nice one with

155
00:09:45,940 --> 00:09:48,059
big tapeworm crawling out of it.

156
00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:48,699
She was like, what is this?

157
00:09:48,700 --> 00:09:49,700
What is that?

158
00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,459
I think it's a tapeworm!

159
00:09:53,460 --> 00:09:55,079
They have tapeworms in them?

160
00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,080
Thank you.

161
00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:16,849
I fileted up one yesterday with

162
00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:18,789
a big huge tumor and it was pretty

163
00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:20,429
crazy. I've never seen one like that

164
00:10:20,430 --> 00:10:21,430
before.

165
00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:25,989
It was like the size of like a

166
00:10:25,990 --> 00:10:27,469
big chicken egg.

167
00:10:27,470 --> 00:10:28,470
It was crazy.

168
00:10:36,420 --> 00:10:37,420
Thank you very much.

169
00:10:44,670 --> 00:10:46,479
Yeah, this one was.

170
00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,599
This one was inside it, like inside

171
00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,619
its swim bladder, like right

172
00:10:50,620 --> 00:10:51,799
up against the spine.

173
00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:52,800
It was pretty nuts.

174
00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,320
I'm a big female.

175
00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,419
When I was shocking too, I learned a

176
00:11:37,420 --> 00:11:39,779
lot about like what determines

177
00:11:39,780 --> 00:11:42,259
like a healthy walleye

178
00:11:42,260 --> 00:11:43,039
lake.

179
00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,639
Like when you're like are catching

180
00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,479
stuff.

181
00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,639
Like if you're catching nothing but

182
00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,639
monsters, it's usually like not

183
00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:49,599
a good lake.

184
00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,619
Something's going on where

185
00:11:51,620 --> 00:11:53,519
the fry or the yearling are

186
00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,359
getting killed off, then they're not

187
00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,199
making it. There's no turnover is

188
00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,200
what they call it.

189
00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,659
And same thing if it's like nothing

190
00:12:00,660 --> 00:12:02,839
but small fish, like small females

191
00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,879
and stuff. There's something

192
00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,119
where...

193
00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,959
Something's not going right.

194
00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,899
That could be habitat or predators

195
00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:11,900
or something.

196
00:12:15,710 --> 00:12:17,689
We didn't want a lot of talking in

197
00:12:17,690 --> 00:12:20,009
this, but it was

198
00:12:20,010 --> 00:12:20,809
great.

199
00:12:20,810 --> 00:12:22,769
Nah, I was just letting them know.

200
00:12:22,770 --> 00:12:24,449
I didn't make that noise!

201
00:12:24,450 --> 00:12:26,789
Oh, no, I think I'll

202
00:12:26,790 --> 00:12:27,790
ask questions.

203
00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,179
I was just letting them know,

204
00:12:30,180 --> 00:12:30,479
like...

205
00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,039
No, you're doing great.

206
00:12:33,580 --> 00:12:34,759
Normally we don't have our peanut

207
00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,299
gallery here. Here's a cool little

208
00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:37,300
something.

209
00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:45,180
Support

210
00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:50,839
They're all involved somewhere or

211
00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:51,669
another.

212
00:12:51,670 --> 00:12:52,950
They, uh, they do that a lot.

213
00:12:55,870 --> 00:12:57,249
Maxillaries or whatever they're

214
00:12:57,250 --> 00:12:57,659
called.

215
00:12:57,660 --> 00:12:59,699
That's your damn computer there,

216
00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:00,960
internal loader.

217
00:13:02,140 --> 00:13:04,129
Do you have some other collections?

218
00:13:04,130 --> 00:13:05,130
Yeah, baby.

219
00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,039
But again, yeah, I do all this just

220
00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,459
to minimalize

221
00:13:12,460 --> 00:13:13,799
the work, because it's going to be

222
00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,320
really slimy anyways.

223
00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,399
And I try to keep it.

224
00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,239
I got a little squeegee over here.

225
00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,159
I try keep it tighty

226
00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,099
and stuff, but you know.

227
00:13:42,380 --> 00:13:44,879
Yeah, getting back to that

228
00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,979
healthy ecosystem,

229
00:13:47,980 --> 00:13:49,919
the last lake I remember we did

230
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,019
was Duck Lake.

231
00:13:51,020 --> 00:13:53,999
And that's

232
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,999
a border lake.

233
00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,299
And it was a lag beer deserve

234
00:13:58,300 --> 00:14:00,119
lake for spearing.

235
00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,119
And we had

236
00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,479
to hunt the fish down.

237
00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,899
It was crazy.

238
00:14:04,900 --> 00:14:06,719
Everywhere we rolled up, it was like

239
00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,499
primo spawn time.

240
00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:09,979
Everywhere we roll up where it

241
00:14:09,980 --> 00:14:11,859
should have been like rock

242
00:14:11,860 --> 00:14:13,919
It was really gravelly, like Primo

243
00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,539
spawn beds, like where they were

244
00:14:15,540 --> 00:14:18,079
spawning before, previous years,

245
00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,239
there's nothing there.

246
00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,779
We found maybe like one or two,

247
00:14:21,780 --> 00:14:23,359
and they're either,

248
00:14:25,060 --> 00:14:26,939
our captain Butch, he was

249
00:14:26,940 --> 00:14:28,379
like, we got to get more fish.

250
00:14:28,380 --> 00:14:30,359
He's like, they're gonna, because

251
00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,139
the more fish we get,

252
00:14:33,140 --> 00:14:34,719
the better numbers they'll get for

253
00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,359
that lake, like the more fish they

254
00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,279
could spear. But even that they

255
00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,649
have like 80-some

256
00:14:40,650 --> 00:14:42,529
fish available, and they

257
00:14:42,530 --> 00:14:44,589
said that they had maybe

258
00:14:44,590 --> 00:14:46,529
five teams go out there to

259
00:14:46,530 --> 00:14:48,549
spear, and each team only came

260
00:14:48,550 --> 00:14:50,469
back with maybe three fish being

261
00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:52,389
really let down, like not being

262
00:14:52,390 --> 00:14:53,629
able to see nothing.

263
00:14:53,630 --> 00:14:55,549
Like I want to be able to

264
00:14:55,550 --> 00:14:57,549
guarantee my kid, like I

265
00:14:57,550 --> 00:14:59,529
can get you on some game,

266
00:14:59,530 --> 00:15:00,629
you know.

267
00:15:00,630 --> 00:15:03,409
So that's like what, it's,

268
00:15:03,410 --> 00:15:04,689
yeah butch was really like, There's

269
00:15:04,690 --> 00:15:05,909
something going on with this lady.

270
00:15:07,770 --> 00:15:10,429
Taken over by more

271
00:15:10,430 --> 00:15:12,509
sand and more vegetation,

272
00:15:12,510 --> 00:15:13,549
like bass habitat.

273
00:15:14,970 --> 00:15:16,609
So it's like, yeah, it's pretty much

274
00:15:16,610 --> 00:15:18,249
bass fishing.

275
00:15:18,250 --> 00:15:20,569
But for walleye, it is not the best.

276
00:15:20,570 --> 00:15:21,570
And it's.

277
00:15:24,660 --> 00:15:26,559
You get mixed reviews on that,

278
00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,560
so...

279
00:15:30,370 --> 00:15:31,510
Oh, pretty good.

280
00:15:36,690 --> 00:15:38,569
Get these in order, I look at the,

281
00:15:38,570 --> 00:15:41,029
let's see what this is, 351

282
00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:44,009
375 sales

283
00:15:44,010 --> 00:15:45,010
close here

284
00:15:54,350 --> 00:15:57,229
I just line them up so I know

285
00:15:57,230 --> 00:15:58,370
how to go down the row.

286
00:16:04,660 --> 00:16:05,660
T9-7.

287
00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,999
They're shipping, they say no,

288
00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,519
and then they're finished, so we

289
00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:14,520
gotta put that down.

290
00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,570
Before you take a moment to think...

291
00:17:06,690 --> 00:17:08,149
497, 498.

292
00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:09,150
Okay.

293
00:17:09,349 --> 00:17:11,328
So this is how I usually got

294
00:17:11,329 --> 00:17:12,329
it lined up.

295
00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:15,839
Thank you. Thank you very much.

296
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,338
I usually got that there so I can

297
00:17:25,339 --> 00:17:26,819
wipe my hands off.

298
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,579
And then I measure, measure

299
00:17:35,580 --> 00:17:36,580
everything.

300
00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,609
So this would be 14.1.

301
00:17:40,610 --> 00:17:41,599
14.1.

302
00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,459
Yeah, and then you come

303
00:17:43,460 --> 00:17:45,119
over and weigh it up.

304
00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:55,669
Oh yeah, another thing too, I

305
00:17:55,670 --> 00:17:58,209
totally spaced it out just now.

306
00:17:58,210 --> 00:17:59,589
I got caught up in getting all these

307
00:17:59,590 --> 00:18:01,029
fish ready. I gotta get my knives

308
00:18:01,030 --> 00:18:02,289
ready.

309
00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:04,129
I can't, I can do this with all my

310
00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:05,130
knives.

311
00:18:06,050 --> 00:18:07,989
Whoa, slipping all

312
00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:08,969
over.

313
00:18:08,970 --> 00:18:09,970
You can have-

314
00:18:34,100 --> 00:18:35,100
Thank you very much.

315
00:18:46,340 --> 00:18:47,579
It's just to get any of the little

316
00:18:47,580 --> 00:18:49,539
burrs off and stuff.

317
00:18:49,540 --> 00:18:50,659
Because that thing sharpens it

318
00:18:50,660 --> 00:18:53,039
really good, but sometimes

319
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:53,629
it may.

320
00:18:53,630 --> 00:18:54,630
I thought it was 600.

321
00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,359
This is 16.3.

322
00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:01,139
16.3

323
00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:03,020
Yeah, you got that weight.

324
00:19:04,170 --> 00:19:05,170
It was $608.

325
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,240
13.3.

326
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,539
That wouldn't be too much on the

327
00:19:25,540 --> 00:19:27,499
table when you're

328
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:28,500
writing.

329
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,119
Because sometimes it messes with

330
00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:32,120
the scale.

331
00:19:32,780 --> 00:19:34,619
So usually I step back and I

332
00:19:34,620 --> 00:19:35,859
wait for it to do it.

333
00:19:35,860 --> 00:19:36,860
It has to do.

334
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,240
15, 2.

335
00:19:47,380 --> 00:19:48,380
Yeah, cause why?

336
00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:58,109
It takes up 10 grams.

337
00:19:58,110 --> 00:19:59,209
Yeah, I know, but that's what I'm

338
00:19:59,210 --> 00:20:00,729
saying. You don't mess with it.

339
00:20:00,730 --> 00:20:02,629
I usually just

340
00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:03,630
back up.

341
00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:07,839
460

342
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,840
15-2.

343
00:20:16,570 --> 00:20:18,009
So how long you guys been doing this

344
00:20:18,010 --> 00:20:19,010
stuff?

345
00:20:20,190 --> 00:20:22,239
Uh, news?

346
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,599
Yeah, like how long have you been in

347
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,600
this work?

348
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,889
24 years.

349
00:20:28,890 --> 00:20:29,969
Holy cray, man.

350
00:20:29,970 --> 00:20:31,009
Like, 7'8".

351
00:20:31,010 --> 00:20:32,609
7' 8", alright.

352
00:20:32,610 --> 00:20:33,409
How'd you get into this?

353
00:20:33,410 --> 00:20:34,019
You've just been like...

354
00:20:34,020 --> 00:20:36,079
I actually went to UW-Superior.

355
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,119
They have a film-making program,

356
00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:40,059
so I worked for WDIO

357
00:20:40,060 --> 00:20:41,779
in Duluth, and then I moved down to

358
00:20:41,780 --> 00:20:44,389
Madison and got a job at PBS.

359
00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:45,210
Dang dude, that's dope.

360
00:20:45,211 --> 00:20:46,559
So you're from this area?

361
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,199
No, actually it's from Wisconsin

362
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,199
Dells. I just went to school at

363
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,339
UW-Superior for a university.

364
00:20:52,340 --> 00:20:53,990
Well, he's from, like, Louisiana.

365
00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:59,059
When he says this area, he means,

366
00:20:59,060 --> 00:20:59,729
like, this state.

367
00:20:59,730 --> 00:21:02,129
That

368
00:21:02,130 --> 00:21:03,130
makes sense.

369
00:21:07,250 --> 00:21:09,209
Yeah so it's like when he's oh yeah

370
00:21:09,210 --> 00:21:11,069
you're from this area it's like you

371
00:21:11,070 --> 00:21:12,869
know you know about what's going on

372
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:14,389
and when you came up here it wasn't

373
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:16,369
nothing really different right yeah

374
00:21:16,370 --> 00:21:18,249
that's cool so how'd you

375
00:21:18,250 --> 00:21:19,529
get into this how'd do you get in

376
00:21:19,530 --> 00:21:20,469
this work

377
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:21,789
I went to college for it.

378
00:21:21,790 --> 00:21:23,249
And that's what I've always wanted

379
00:21:23,250 --> 00:21:25,059
to be in, like, the, like...

380
00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:26,499
Uh, illusion?

381
00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:26,949
17.

382
00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:29,649
Yeah, that's cool.

383
00:21:29,650 --> 00:21:30,829
I mean you guys are all talking

384
00:21:30,830 --> 00:21:32,389
about us. It's like yeah, I want to

385
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:33,969
know a little bit about you guys man

386
00:21:37,770 --> 00:21:39,009
That's cool, that's cool.

387
00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:42,009
I didn't like school, I don't like

388
00:21:42,010 --> 00:21:44,149
school, probably never go back.

389
00:21:44,150 --> 00:21:45,689
I'm not like trying to tap down on

390
00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:47,089
it or nothing, but I just had a

391
00:21:47,090 --> 00:21:48,809
really, I didn't have, I didn have

392
00:21:48,810 --> 00:21:50,629
the best experience in school, so

393
00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:52,009
I was like, I won't go back,

394
00:21:53,370 --> 00:21:55,289
I always like doing stuff like this,

395
00:21:55,290 --> 00:21:57,649
so when I got this job it was like

396
00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:59,188
perfect fit.

397
00:21:59,189 --> 00:22:00,950
This is 28.5.

398
00:22:04,770 --> 00:22:06,329
Would you be able to fill it out if

399
00:22:06,330 --> 00:22:07,369
I'm here?

400
00:22:07,370 --> 00:22:08,370
Yeah, I'd be nice.

401
00:22:14,670 --> 00:22:16,129
So are you from around here?

402
00:22:16,130 --> 00:22:16,130
Yeah.

403
00:22:16,131 --> 00:22:18,169
Yeah, I'm from Bad River.

404
00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:19,409
I'm a tribal member.

405
00:22:19,410 --> 00:22:22,089
I've been around here my whole life.

406
00:22:22,090 --> 00:22:23,929
I grew up in the woods,

407
00:22:23,930 --> 00:22:25,549
grew up on the river, been on boats

408
00:22:25,550 --> 00:22:27,449
my whole life, been fishing

409
00:22:27,450 --> 00:22:28,450
forever.

410
00:22:29,050 --> 00:22:31,049
And that's how I kind of

411
00:22:31,050 --> 00:22:33,509
got into, I got this job was

412
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:34,510
good at fileting.

413
00:22:35,950 --> 00:22:38,089
I learned fileting from my uncles.

414
00:22:38,090 --> 00:22:39,969
It was like,

415
00:22:39,970 --> 00:22:41,249
you filet them fish, right?

416
00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:43,229
Like, we need that meat, you

417
00:22:43,230 --> 00:22:44,330
know? So it was...

418
00:22:45,870 --> 00:22:48,069
They hated it, hated it.

419
00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:50,029
When I would, I used to cut

420
00:22:50,030 --> 00:22:52,029
around the ribs and just have

421
00:22:52,030 --> 00:22:54,069
like big back strap filet and big

422
00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:55,469
tail filet, like, oh yeah, that's

423
00:22:55,470 --> 00:22:56,489
good.

424
00:22:56,490 --> 00:22:57,949
Oh, look at all that meat, look it

425
00:22:57,950 --> 00:22:59,409
all. And then they would filet it

426
00:22:59,410 --> 00:23:00,989
and get all that belly meat and be

427
00:23:00,990 --> 00:23:02,869
like, look this, look at this meat

428
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:03,869
you left.

429
00:23:03,870 --> 00:23:05,249
Like, yeah, they would be really.

430
00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:06,469
I'd just put that one on the scale.

431
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:07,470
Well, okay, all right.

432
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:13,119
This one is

433
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:14,220
18.4.

434
00:23:32,220 --> 00:23:33,220
Okay.

435
00:23:42,220 --> 00:23:44,219
This one is

436
00:23:44,220 --> 00:23:45,220
$19.50.

437
00:23:47,570 --> 00:23:48,570
14-7

438
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,600
So I'm hungry.

439
00:24:00,060 --> 00:24:01,060
Alright, I'm good now.

440
00:24:14,490 --> 00:24:15,569
I can.

441
00:24:15,570 --> 00:24:16,570
Yeah.

442
00:24:41,570 --> 00:24:42,570
Just to be accurate.

443
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:49,789
This too, I need this to clean all

444
00:24:49,790 --> 00:24:50,790
this stuff up.

445
00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:07,900
These are for the all in all though.

446
00:25:36,940 --> 00:25:38,659
This is very fragile, so you've got

447
00:25:38,660 --> 00:25:39,999
to take your time with it.

448
00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:43,109
Yeah, there's a lot of fish around

449
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:44,110
here.

450
00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:45,909
I'll get all the angles.

451
00:25:45,910 --> 00:25:46,789
But yeah, if you see anything, just

452
00:25:46,790 --> 00:25:47,790
let me know.

453
00:25:49,810 --> 00:25:50,849
That's a hard one to see.

454
00:26:53,210 --> 00:26:55,769
This is a baby female,

455
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:58,590
they start so young.

456
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:08,200
Yeah, thanks, too.

457
00:27:10,540 --> 00:27:11,720
She was an anchor.

458
00:27:23,820 --> 00:27:25,679
So some people leave the skin on for

459
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,539
their analysis.

460
00:27:26,540 --> 00:27:28,299
We take the skin off the tissue.

461
00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:30,739
There's some studies out there that

462
00:27:30,740 --> 00:27:32,739
say that the results are

463
00:27:32,740 --> 00:27:33,740
eligible.

464
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,939
Some people put the tissue with the

465
00:27:35,940 --> 00:27:38,039
skin on, some people

466
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,119
take the skins off and pry it up.

467
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:41,279
It's something that's a matter of

468
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,280
preference.

469
00:27:42,940 --> 00:27:44,579
So that's how we do our tissue.

470
00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:59,459
So when you take them, can you just

471
00:28:59,460 --> 00:29:00,559
point them out first with your

472
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,739
tweezers for Ethan, so we can

473
00:29:02,740 --> 00:29:04,170
see exactly where they are.

474
00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:07,589
No problem let me clean

475
00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:09,149
this up for you a little bit so it's

476
00:29:09,150 --> 00:29:10,989
not so bloody i

477
00:29:10,990 --> 00:29:12,029
mean it's going to be a little

478
00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:13,969
bloody but

479
00:29:13,970 --> 00:29:15,949
just so it is a better shot you

480
00:29:15,950 --> 00:29:17,650
know a little cleaner

481
00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:34,609
Yeah, and like I said, it's like,

482
00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:36,289
the otoliths are really thin, so

483
00:29:36,290 --> 00:29:38,149
it's like, you want to

484
00:29:38,150 --> 00:29:40,009
put enough pressure into it just to

485
00:29:40,010 --> 00:29:41,010
like get through it.

486
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:46,319
Yeah, sometimes they

487
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,679
pop up here because this is where

488
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,559
they usually sit, but right they pop

489
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,319
this way. This is the otolith right

490
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,320
here. Here's one.

491
00:29:56,270 --> 00:29:57,630
Here's the other one right here

492
00:30:04,780 --> 00:30:06,679
Like I said, it just depends how

493
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,319
it breaks. Sometimes they'll stay in

494
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,139
that little pocket, but

495
00:30:10,140 --> 00:30:11,879
sometimes they'll pop this way.

496
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,519
It's scary when they go this way

497
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,479
because the only

498
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,919
thing that's holding it there is a

499
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,779
little bit of like gel.

500
00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:20,819
And if you pop that, they slide

501
00:30:20,820 --> 00:30:22,279
right into the brain and it's like

502
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,159
impossible to find.

503
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,039
I left out once and found one and

504
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,720
I was pretty impressed with myself.

505
00:30:38,390 --> 00:30:40,389
So when you're fileting, are you

506
00:30:40,390 --> 00:30:41,629
doing the same technique as you

507
00:30:41,630 --> 00:30:42,759
would for harvest, even though...

508
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,579
Yeah, yeah, pretty much, because I'm

509
00:30:44,580 --> 00:30:46,579
like, yeah well

510
00:30:46,580 --> 00:30:48,739
they, you gotta think,

511
00:30:48,740 --> 00:30:50,959
they probably want

512
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,759
it like as close to like somebody

513
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,279
eating it, you know, like because

514
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,160
they want it for consumption,

515
00:30:57,340 --> 00:30:59,559
so I'm gonna

516
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,579
cut it up like I'm cutting it

517
00:31:01,580 --> 00:31:03,199
up to harvest, you know.

518
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,059
So I was like, I'll filet

519
00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:06,539
it the way my uncle would want me to

520
00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:07,540
filet.

521
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,469
Or Jake would filet

522
00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:12,989
Jake's a master two-filler.

523
00:31:37,740 --> 00:31:38,740
This is a male,

524
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,639
so you can tell the difference

525
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,019
because the male's got these big

526
00:31:42,020 --> 00:31:44,159
huge milk

527
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,039
sacks.

528
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,240
So you call it fish milk.

529
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,239
So how old were you when you first

530
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,299
started fishing?

531
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:07,039
I was probably...

532
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,040
We like

533
00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:12,819
Actually, cleaning fish,

534
00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:14,719
I was thinking about filet

535
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,499
and fish, but cleaning fish.

536
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:18,999
I've been cleaning fish since I was

537
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,020
probably like,

538
00:32:22,380 --> 00:32:25,199
I was like six,

539
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,219
but I was just scaling

540
00:32:27,220 --> 00:32:29,239
it, and with bullet heads, just

541
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,240
skinning them.

542
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,299
But I want to say the

543
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:35,019
first time I actually fileted,

544
00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:37,919
fileted was maybe about 10.

545
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,779
And it was just butchered

546
00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:41,679
it was like just straight I

547
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,939
remember I was with my uncle Rob and

548
00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:45,899
he was trying to show me

549
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:47,759
how to filet and

550
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,619
I was just I had little ones like

551
00:32:49,620 --> 00:32:51,219
this and I was just butcher and I'm

552
00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:53,199
I was getting like it was

553
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,139
mangled and he's like hold

554
00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:56,759
up hold up and he started giving me

555
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,459
big ones like this and bigger ones

556
00:32:58,460 --> 00:33:00,279
and he said here this is

557
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,839
how you'll learn how to filet is how

558
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,699
I learned He

559
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:05,439
said, the bigger ones have bigger

560
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,919
bones, so it's easier for the knife

561
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,779
to slide on.

562
00:33:07,780 --> 00:33:10,079
So it's easy to learn the

563
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,899
way your knife is supposed

564
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:12,900
to work it.

565
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,299
So that's how I got good at

566
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:17,300
it.

567
00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:25,819
Yeah, because I used to just cut

568
00:33:25,820 --> 00:33:27,679
like all of this, so

569
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,699
Jake and like my Uncle Robin, that's

570
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:31,919
all good stuff that you're wasting

571
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,879
it, you're wastin'

572
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,759
it. People, I got cousins down

573
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,359
in Elcio that like this cut too.

574
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,059
These are called the wings, because

575
00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:41,039
there's good fat, I mean

576
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,039
good like

577
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,099
fatty meat in here.

578
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:45,619
You know, just like the belly.

579
00:33:45,620 --> 00:33:47,019
So like they'll cut this off and

580
00:33:47,020 --> 00:33:49,099
they'll bread that up and fry it up.

581
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:50,919
I wouldn't do that, but I like the

582
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,619
cheeks. We'll take the cheeks out,

583
00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:53,569
but.

584
00:33:53,570 --> 00:33:54,589
Not on these ones.

585
00:34:00,270 --> 00:34:02,969
My uncle Sam too,

586
00:34:02,970 --> 00:34:05,389
he's really,

587
00:34:05,390 --> 00:34:07,249
really die hard filet

588
00:34:07,250 --> 00:34:09,209
dude. He's really about his filets.

589
00:34:09,210 --> 00:34:11,809
And if you mess up the filets,

590
00:34:11,810 --> 00:34:13,829
don't, those are your filets over

591
00:34:13,830 --> 00:34:15,428
there. Keep them away from mine.

592
00:34:15,429 --> 00:34:16,649
Mine look beautiful.

593
00:34:16,650 --> 00:34:18,489
I got beautiful filets like,

594
00:34:19,889 --> 00:34:21,809
but I have a lot of

595
00:34:21,810 --> 00:34:23,908
like my skills and

596
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:25,829
like what I, I guess what I

597
00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:27,908
love about my job to

598
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:28,909
my uncles.

599
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,559
They taught me how to

600
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,639
enjoy nature.

601
00:34:39,150 --> 00:34:40,869
Restaurant.

602
00:34:40,870 --> 00:34:42,388
Yeah, they're good enough, that's

603
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:43,549
what I was telling Karen when she

604
00:34:43,550 --> 00:34:45,209
hired me. I'm like, I don't know,

605
00:34:45,210 --> 00:34:46,829
some of these filets might turn out

606
00:34:46,830 --> 00:34:47,968
and you're gonna be like, man, let's

607
00:34:47,969 --> 00:34:49,210
throw that in the frying pan.

608
00:34:55,870 --> 00:34:57,309
I got a couple of guys from the

609
00:34:57,310 --> 00:34:58,909
N.R.D. That would come in every once

610
00:34:58,910 --> 00:35:00,349
in a while. We'll just put one of

611
00:35:00,350 --> 00:35:01,489
those in the freezer.

612
00:35:02,610 --> 00:35:04,929
I'm like, nah man, can't.

613
00:35:04,930 --> 00:35:05,930
Were you scared?

614
00:35:06,990 --> 00:35:08,309
That's what he said he was like well

615
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:09,769
i thought they only took one side

616
00:35:09,770 --> 00:35:10,770
i'm like nope they

617
00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:14,399
Ever since the addition of the PCOS

618
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,239
program, we take both sides of

619
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,539
the fish now.

620
00:35:17,540 --> 00:35:18,699
So it used to just be the mercury

621
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,079
program. We would only take one side

622
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,080
of the tissue.

623
00:35:22,060 --> 00:35:23,319
But now we take them both.

624
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,779
So that's where the cheeks come

625
00:35:24,780 --> 00:35:24,959
from.

626
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,960
Peace out.

627
00:35:27,110 --> 00:35:28,169
Oh my god.

628
00:35:28,170 --> 00:35:29,889
And if they're frozen hold they're

629
00:35:29,890 --> 00:35:30,449
still okay.

630
00:35:30,450 --> 00:35:32,269
Yeah, well, again, it

631
00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:34,229
depends on how long they,

632
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:36,029
the ones we had earlier this year,

633
00:35:36,030 --> 00:35:37,469
they were all fresh.

634
00:35:37,470 --> 00:35:39,609
They were all like, as soon as

635
00:35:39,610 --> 00:35:41,669
they were harvested,

636
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:42,689
or as soon we,

637
00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:46,109
because some of the samples we got

638
00:35:46,110 --> 00:35:48,069
from Shaken, so like

639
00:35:48,070 --> 00:35:49,529
as soon us we got them, it was like

640
00:35:49,530 --> 00:35:51,369
we threw them on ice, and like we

641
00:35:51,370 --> 00:35:53,189
either brought them here, or they

642
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:54,529
threw them in the freezer.

643
00:35:54,530 --> 00:35:56,089
Like, so they were, you know, as

644
00:35:56,090 --> 00:35:57,969
fresh as they could be. Fresh as they
could be.

645
00:35:57,970 --> 00:36:00,009
Yeah these these on the other

646
00:36:00,010 --> 00:36:02,249
hand are from michigan

647
00:36:02,250 --> 00:36:04,129
we don't know how long they

648
00:36:04,130 --> 00:36:06,029
were sitting out like when they

649
00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:07,849
were harvested really like

650
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,779
You've got two nickels on the scale.

651
00:36:11,780 --> 00:36:12,920
He's only off two nickel.

652
00:36:14,569 --> 00:36:16,010
That's what I was thinking, like,

653
00:36:17,450 --> 00:36:19,269
cause it's, well if I do, I'll

654
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:20,629
show you like on one of these bigger

655
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:21,829
ones.

656
00:36:21,830 --> 00:36:23,229
I'll tell you guys like how we take

657
00:36:23,230 --> 00:36:24,529
the cheeks out of one of the bigger

658
00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:26,389
ones, cause when, it

659
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:27,509
looks better with the bigger one.

660
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:29,129
You get a bigger nice chunk of meat.

661
00:36:29,130 --> 00:36:31,509
I mean when you, like when we're

662
00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:33,769
like netting and stuff, you're,

663
00:36:33,770 --> 00:36:34,929
depending on where you go, like

664
00:36:34,930 --> 00:36:36,589
Mille Lacs, you can get like 300,

665
00:36:36,590 --> 00:36:37,789
400 fish, you know.

666
00:36:37,790 --> 00:36:39,309
So you're sitting there fileting up

667
00:36:39,310 --> 00:36:41,089
torpedoes like this.

668
00:36:41,090 --> 00:36:42,649
When you think about it, that's a

669
00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:43,929
lot of meat you're wasting.

670
00:36:43,930 --> 00:36:45,529
So it's like, yeah, filet them up,

671
00:36:45,530 --> 00:36:46,530
you know?

672
00:36:47,070 --> 00:36:49,029
But sometimes you get in spots

673
00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:51,429
where you only get a few of them.

674
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:53,249
Probably like two or three weeks of

675
00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:54,689
fileting, trying to figure out the

676
00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:56,509
rhythm of how to

677
00:36:56,510 --> 00:36:58,269
do stuff more efficiently.

678
00:37:00,810 --> 00:37:02,989
And come to find out it's

679
00:37:02,990 --> 00:37:04,669
polyodal itself first, and then I

680
00:37:04,670 --> 00:37:06,130
can just concentrate on fileting.

681
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:10,889
Because Josh isn't down here all the

682
00:37:10,890 --> 00:37:11,890
time.

683
00:37:12,450 --> 00:37:14,549
So I got to think about

684
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:16,189
time too.

685
00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:18,349
Because another thing is,

686
00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:20,249
for me at least, I got a worry about

687
00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:21,689
picking up my girls at the end of

688
00:37:21,690 --> 00:37:22,949
the day at three. They get done with

689
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:24,509
school at three, so I got be done

690
00:37:24,510 --> 00:37:25,889
here by three.

691
00:37:25,890 --> 00:37:27,409
Technically, I could pick them up at

692
00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:29,349
3.30, but I don't like making

693
00:37:29,350 --> 00:37:30,409
them wait.

694
00:37:30,410 --> 00:37:31,709
Especially my one-year-old.

695
00:37:31,710 --> 00:37:33,509
She always expects me there at three

696
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:36,409
and she gets upset if I'm not.

697
00:37:36,410 --> 00:37:38,149
I didn't know that until the

698
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:39,209
teachers told me.

699
00:37:39,210 --> 00:37:40,909
She knows what's going to happen.

700
00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:43,689
Yup, it was

701
00:37:43,690 --> 00:37:45,589
like a parent's day or

702
00:37:45,590 --> 00:37:47,829
something, or it was a family day,

703
00:37:49,090 --> 00:37:51,369
and I was a little late,

704
00:37:51,370 --> 00:37:52,849
literally probably like 10 minutes

705
00:37:52,850 --> 00:37:54,909
late, and

706
00:37:54,910 --> 00:37:56,889
she was the last kid in the room.

707
00:37:56,890 --> 00:37:58,969
She was crying, waiting for

708
00:37:58,970 --> 00:38:01,849
her dad, she

709
00:38:01,850 --> 00:38:04,289
was waiting for day day,

710
00:38:04,290 --> 00:38:05,579
I was like aww.

711
00:38:05,580 --> 00:38:07,059
Which one is this?

712
00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:11,589
I got to do the first fully

713
00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:14,489
and then I can determine if

714
00:38:14,490 --> 00:38:16,369
it's a he or she, I don't

715
00:38:16,370 --> 00:38:17,370
want

716
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:19,230
to misidentify.

717
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:25,989
That might be non-binary, I

718
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:26,990
don't know.

719
00:38:27,630 --> 00:38:28,630
This is a male.

720
00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:33,069
No, you might want to edit that out.

721
00:38:33,070 --> 00:38:34,449
I was just, it was just a joke,

722
00:38:34,450 --> 00:38:36,569
we're tired of his jokes.

723
00:38:36,570 --> 00:38:38,789
I, yeah, I'm, I.

724
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:40,629
We do mark them as unknown if

725
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:43,109
we don't know, but we

726
00:38:43,110 --> 00:38:44,869
find out the gender.

727
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:46,969
I can usually figure

728
00:38:46,970 --> 00:38:47,970
it out.

729
00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:51,209
I was showing him how to

730
00:38:51,210 --> 00:38:52,549
figure it out to one day, he was

731
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:53,729
like, how do you know if it's a male

732
00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:55,089
or female? I was like come here,

733
00:38:55,090 --> 00:38:56,090
I'll show you.

734
00:38:58,230 --> 00:39:00,249
The, even if they're a young female,

735
00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:01,669
you could see where their ovaries

736
00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:03,529
would be. They're just like not

737
00:39:03,530 --> 00:39:05,569
full, you know, and they're,

738
00:39:05,570 --> 00:39:07,169
the males, they always have a little

739
00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:09,029
bit of, they're more white, I

740
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:10,030
guess, so.

741
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,539
This one is a little male.

742
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,360
244-397

743
00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:28,129
Yeah, we're saying that joke

744
00:39:28,130 --> 00:39:30,009
though on the boat because like when

745
00:39:30,010 --> 00:39:32,649
you're working up the fish you gotta

746
00:39:32,650 --> 00:39:34,589
for the data purposes

747
00:39:34,590 --> 00:39:36,409
you got to tell if it's a male

748
00:39:36,410 --> 00:39:37,410
or female and

749
00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:42,479
My shit made, he kept going,

750
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,899
like if they're young, and we

751
00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:46,359
couldn't tell, non-binary,

752
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,179
you know, it was just

753
00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:50,180
the running joke.

754
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,499
Just like one of the other running

755
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:55,399
jokes was every time we left,

756
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,259
like at the end of the day, or at

757
00:39:57,260 --> 00:39:58,639
the night, I should say, from

758
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,479
workin', everybody in the

759
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,499
car?

760
00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:02,599
Jake, you in the card?

761
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,419
This guy got left with time out

762
00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:07,501
of the league.

763
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,879
This 4-9 flash try to

764
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,880
signal them.

765
00:40:13,020 --> 00:40:13,479
Oh yeah.

766
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,799
Down the road.

767
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,499
That's always a good time to hang

768
00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:18,199
out with them guys the shocking crew

769
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,200
it's a good

770
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,600
Thank you. Good night.

771
00:40:40,650 --> 00:40:41,650
Thank you.

772
00:41:16,030 --> 00:41:17,030
For

773
00:41:17,470 --> 00:41:18,969
Yep.

774
00:41:18,970 --> 00:41:20,969
You didn't know it, I already put

775
00:41:20,970 --> 00:41:21,970
it up.

776
00:41:22,770 --> 00:41:23,669
Alright.

777
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:24,670
I know it's good to go.

778
00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:37,059
Is this one where the whole thing

779
00:41:37,060 --> 00:41:38,060
goes?

780
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:41,859
See, like in this one, the auto has

781
00:41:41,860 --> 00:41:43,479
stuck up in the top.

782
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,480
See, they're right here.

783
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,619
I learned you gotta like really

784
00:42:06,620 --> 00:42:08,439
take your time with it and just

785
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,559
break that first little because when

786
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,079
I first was doing it, the way Ben

787
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,159
showed me, he would just

788
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,159
beast it because he was showing

789
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,159
me on Lakers and them lake fish got

790
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,839
like thicker bones.

791
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,999
So it was like you gotta kind of be

792
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,419
really tough on them.

793
00:42:22,420 --> 00:42:24,299
So that's how I was like beasting

794
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:25,519
on them and I was breaking the

795
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,439
otoliths up and cracking them in

796
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,719
half and so

797
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:32,019
I learned that you gotta be delicate

798
00:42:32,020 --> 00:42:33,020
with it.

799
00:42:51,110 --> 00:42:54,969
And I got a little better

800
00:42:54,970 --> 00:42:56,889
with my technique just from watching

801
00:42:56,890 --> 00:42:59,009
Read The Fishmonger

802
00:42:59,010 --> 00:43:00,030
on YouTube.

803
00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:03,729
Shout out to Read The fishmongerman,

804
00:43:03,730 --> 00:43:05,689
if you ever put that in there,

805
00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:06,690
be like, oh yeah.

806
00:43:07,690 --> 00:43:09,609
He has some, he can show you how to

807
00:43:09,610 --> 00:43:10,610
cut up some fish though.

808
00:43:16,690 --> 00:43:17,690
This is a male.

809
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,459
Usually I do too, but

810
00:43:34,460 --> 00:43:36,479
it seems like

811
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,079
for like weighing out purposes it

812
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,599
comes out a little better.

813
00:43:42,490 --> 00:43:43,769
But that's what I was doing too at

814
00:43:43,770 --> 00:43:45,309
first. I'd have like the big

815
00:43:45,310 --> 00:43:47,029
fricking chunk of skin hanging off

816
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:48,030
of it.

817
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,159
You can filet a fish, you

818
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,099
can filete it

819
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:33,159
so it's like all the meat just

820
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,979
like falls it's like

821
00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:36,319
one it almost looks like a big

822
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,129
butterfly of meat.

823
00:44:38,130 --> 00:44:39,379
Thanks a lot.

824
00:44:39,380 --> 00:44:41,020
Yeah, the butterfly, yeah.

825
00:44:41,021 --> 00:44:42,021
Thank you very much.

826
00:44:44,650 --> 00:44:45,809
That's true, that's true

827
00:44:47,319 --> 00:44:50,229
Yeah, the team is pretty awesome.

828
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:51,230
Yeah, but perfect.

829
00:45:56,510 --> 00:45:57,949
So you must have grown up eating

830
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:58,809
along the way, right?

831
00:45:58,810 --> 00:46:01,409
Oh yeah man, I grew up just as,

832
00:46:01,410 --> 00:46:03,309
from what I hear,

833
00:46:03,310 --> 00:46:04,550
we're spoiled up here,

834
00:46:06,650 --> 00:46:08,329
but yeah I grew up eating walleye my

835
00:46:08,330 --> 00:46:09,569
entire life.

836
00:46:09,570 --> 00:46:11,829
I was eating walleyes,

837
00:46:11,830 --> 00:46:13,449
basically anything in the river.

838
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:17,669
Walleye, northern,

839
00:46:24,130 --> 00:46:26,229
smallmouth, bluegill,

840
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:27,409
crappie.

841
00:46:27,410 --> 00:46:29,449
Yeah, basically anything that swims

842
00:46:29,450 --> 00:46:30,450
around here.

843
00:46:31,830 --> 00:46:32,969
But yeah, I always grew up eating

844
00:46:32,970 --> 00:46:34,209
walleye.

845
00:46:34,210 --> 00:46:35,869
Anything that swims in the net.

846
00:46:35,870 --> 00:46:37,789
Yo, anything that swims in the Net.

847
00:46:37,790 --> 00:46:38,869
You're the female.

848
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:39,870
Alright.

849
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:44,249
Nah, lamprey don't swim in the net,

850
00:46:44,250 --> 00:46:45,250
they swim through it.

851
00:46:51,290 --> 00:46:52,869
Now, one time though, I was fileting

852
00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:53,870
a northern,

853
00:46:54,850 --> 00:46:56,929
and a lamprey popped out of it.

854
00:46:56,930 --> 00:46:58,090
Like, out of its stomach.

855
00:47:00,110 --> 00:47:01,629
My Uncle Sam was like, take a

856
00:47:01,630 --> 00:47:03,109
picture of that, send that to

857
00:47:03,110 --> 00:47:04,110
Glyphway.

858
00:47:07,050 --> 00:47:08,809
I was telling our lamprey specialist

859
00:47:08,810 --> 00:47:10,809
about it, and he was like, really?

860
00:47:10,810 --> 00:47:11,989
Oh, you should have, man.

861
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:13,070
Oh, that would have been awesome.

862
00:47:14,190 --> 00:47:15,190
He was like yeah,

863
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:17,409
it was... It was just something

864
00:47:17,410 --> 00:47:19,069
one-off.

865
00:47:19,070 --> 00:47:20,669
I'd never seen it before, but I was

866
00:47:20,670 --> 00:47:21,569
thinking about it.

867
00:47:21,570 --> 00:47:23,169
I mean, they eat big leeches and

868
00:47:23,170 --> 00:47:25,689
stuff, so...

869
00:47:25,690 --> 00:47:27,050
I just thought it was a big leech.

870
00:47:31,940 --> 00:47:33,519
They say the best is the dream.

871
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:56,009
I'm almost good enough to read

872
00:47:56,010 --> 00:47:57,269
a newspaper through it.

873
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,859
See, when I got a helper down here,

874
00:48:47,860 --> 00:48:49,159
this goes really fast.

875
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,479
Because usually it's just me down

876
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,299
here. So it's like, I got to stop.

877
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:55,279
So that's why I just learned to

878
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,119
get the filets out, filet them,

879
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,499
then that way I can throw the fish

880
00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:00,139
down, weigh them up, write it down,

881
00:49:00,140 --> 00:49:01,199
onto the next one.

882
00:49:08,140 --> 00:49:09,140
I don't have it.

883
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:11,759
One time I was fileting a fish and

884
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,039
when I got here to take the

885
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,919
gills out of the way there

886
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,799
was a big leader in its

887
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,579
mouth.

888
00:49:18,580 --> 00:49:21,059
Somebody caught it at one point and

889
00:49:21,060 --> 00:49:22,899
it swallowed the hook.

890
00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:25,339
It was way down in its stomach

891
00:49:25,340 --> 00:49:26,539
and stuff.

892
00:49:26,540 --> 00:49:27,539
I thought it was cool.

893
00:49:27,540 --> 00:49:28,799
It's a huge fish.

894
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,080
Big monster female.

895
00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:32,839
Somebody had the fight of their life

896
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,619
that day.

897
00:49:34,620 --> 00:49:35,699
Lost the mauner.

898
00:50:04,570 --> 00:50:05,570
Those are good.

899
00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:46,510
Now.

900
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:53,150
To give them up.

901
00:52:12,130 --> 00:52:13,669
Yeah, and since working for the

902
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:15,609
Mercury program, too, I found all

903
00:52:15,610 --> 00:52:16,670
that, like, the, uh...

904
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,379
Yeah, my entire life, I'm like, oh,

905
00:52:26,380 --> 00:52:27,380
it's in the belly.

906
00:52:30,090 --> 00:52:31,389
Bring it up a little bit.

907
00:52:33,530 --> 00:52:34,610
And there's the flame.

908
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,319
Yeah, so things will still be the

909
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,319
whole fish, like different

910
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,279
organs, or

911
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,319
whatever

912
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,499
your

913
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:58,939
questions are, the

914
00:52:58,940 --> 00:53:01,139
type

915
00:53:01,140 --> 00:53:03,079
that you're eating right now.

916
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,499
Maybe that

917
00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:08,439
represents a lot of how much we

918
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,160
are exposed to.

919
00:53:11,870 --> 00:53:13,189
Yeah, I know.

920
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:14,190
Oh shit.

921
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:19,419
And if people have

922
00:53:19,420 --> 00:53:20,420
done it,

923
00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:23,639
there's some question

924
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,419
about these very customer people,

925
00:53:26,420 --> 00:53:28,299
and they've got some different lines

926
00:53:28,300 --> 00:53:30,399
down the stairs.

927
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,339
And we found that in the wardens,

928
00:53:32,340 --> 00:53:34,399
the people were a lot higher than

929
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,400
the regular employees.

930
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:40,709
Jake brought up, I

931
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:43,009
remember, this was like a while ago,

932
00:53:43,010 --> 00:53:44,849
we're talking about

933
00:53:44,850 --> 00:53:46,629
microplastics, right?

934
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:48,909
And he brought up

935
00:53:48,910 --> 00:53:51,009
what about in the rice?

936
00:53:51,010 --> 00:53:53,109
And I was like, what do you mean?

937
00:53:53,110 --> 00:53:55,169
And he said, it makes perfect

938
00:53:55,170 --> 00:53:57,049
sense to me,

939
00:53:57,050 --> 00:53:59,109
all the tarps that everybody uses

940
00:53:59,110 --> 00:54:00,509
are plastic tarps.

941
00:54:00,510 --> 00:54:02,089
And it's like when you're gathering

942
00:54:02,090 --> 00:54:04,029
the rice, like how much of

943
00:54:04,030 --> 00:54:05,869
them and the rice

944
00:54:05,870 --> 00:54:07,569
bags that you're using.

945
00:54:07,570 --> 00:54:09,429
Yeah, so it's like, how much of

946
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:11,249
them microplastics are actually

947
00:54:11,250 --> 00:54:12,789
getting into the rice?

948
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:14,529
I brought that up to ACBot and he

949
00:54:14,530 --> 00:54:16,889
was like, I never thought of that.

950
00:54:16,890 --> 00:54:18,349
He was like that's actually

951
00:54:18,350 --> 00:54:19,549
something to think about.

952
00:54:19,550 --> 00:54:21,749
He was, like, that, he was, I

953
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:23,429
seriously never thought about it

954
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:24,329
like that.

955
00:54:24,330 --> 00:54:25,609
I was like yeah, Jake brought it up

956
00:54:25,610 --> 00:54:26,909
and I've always thought about ever

957
00:54:26,910 --> 00:54:27,929
since.

958
00:54:27,930 --> 00:54:29,069
I have a question for you, do you

959
00:54:29,070 --> 00:54:30,349
not care if it's seen on the air or

960
00:54:30,350 --> 00:54:30,489
not?

961
00:54:30,490 --> 00:54:31,629
Because, I mean, if we're worrying

962
00:54:31,630 --> 00:54:33,269
about microplastics in the fish

963
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:34,689
right now, wouldn't we want to worry

964
00:54:34,690 --> 00:54:35,949
about the rice too?

965
00:54:35,950 --> 00:54:36,989
Aren't you going to make me pick it

966
00:54:36,990 --> 00:54:39,269
up because he's

967
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:41,169
big screened

968
00:54:41,170 --> 00:54:42,170
the dry eraser?

969
00:54:47,060 --> 00:54:48,060
We're going to have to pay for that.

970
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:58,469
Drive with nice and warm, drive

971
00:54:58,470 --> 00:54:59,470
very slow and fast.

972
00:55:02,569 --> 00:55:04,489
No, I'm not angry

973
00:55:04,490 --> 00:55:05,490
with her.

974
00:55:07,780 --> 00:55:08,780
Finish the race.

975
00:55:27,970 --> 00:55:29,589
Do you guys want me to talk about,

976
00:55:29,590 --> 00:55:31,099
like, summer camp?

977
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:33,999
Well, I think we're going to,

978
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,139
um, after we're done with this,

979
00:55:36,140 --> 00:55:38,239
find a question for Mike and Josh,

980
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:39,380
and we'll just ask a few questions.

981
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,259
Yeah, because I'm just gibber

982
00:55:42,260 --> 00:55:43,219
jabbering over here.

983
00:55:43,220 --> 00:55:45,239
I'm trying to kill time, you know?

984
00:55:50,510 --> 00:55:51,510
That's a male, right?

985
00:55:52,570 --> 00:55:54,509
This is a

986
00:55:54,510 --> 00:55:55,510
female.

987
00:56:06,540 --> 00:56:07,819
Oopsie, cuz look at yours, they're

988
00:56:07,820 --> 00:56:09,799
all spent up ovary.

989
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,800
It's all deflated.

990
00:56:20,460 --> 00:56:22,579
She was the first at the bar that

991
00:56:22,580 --> 00:56:23,580
night.

992
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:31,770
Well, that's how Butch put it, like

993
00:56:31,771 --> 00:56:33,749
when he's all like, he's like,

994
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:34,529
think about it.

995
00:56:34,530 --> 00:56:35,569
He's like that's all these little

996
00:56:35,570 --> 00:56:37,509
fish are. He's, like, all the little

997
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:39,289
young ones are first ones out there

998
00:56:39,290 --> 00:56:40,529
at the bar.

999
00:56:40,530 --> 00:56:42,189
He's all, like them big females come

1000
00:56:42,190 --> 00:56:43,190
in right away.

1001
00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:49,179
I was like, holy crap, he's like,

1002
00:56:49,180 --> 00:56:50,439
yeah, he was like later on, that's

1003
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,659
when the big males come in.

1004
00:56:52,660 --> 00:56:54,539
See what I tell you,

1005
00:56:54,540 --> 00:56:55,750
young bucks at the bar, man.

1006
00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:06,179
He got it.

1007
00:57:06,180 --> 00:57:08,019
Yeah, that's Butch's take on

1008
00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:08,020
it.

1009
00:57:08,021 --> 00:57:09,479
He's sitting there grabbing the

1010
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,139
boat. Hey man, you need to go

1011
00:57:11,140 --> 00:57:11,869
mustache.

1012
00:57:11,870 --> 00:57:14,029
That's why I was like, man,

1013
00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:15,929
he had so much

1014
00:57:15,930 --> 00:57:17,689
like knowledge though, you know, and

1015
00:57:17,690 --> 00:57:18,690
it's like, man,

1016
00:57:19,710 --> 00:57:21,729
yeah, he's getting

1017
00:57:21,730 --> 00:57:22,629
ready to retire.

1018
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:24,649
So it's, like, I think he said he

1019
00:57:24,650 --> 00:57:26,649
has this season and next

1020
00:57:26,650 --> 00:57:28,769
spring, and then he's done.

1021
00:57:28,770 --> 00:57:29,849
And it was supposed to be that

1022
00:57:29,850 --> 00:57:30,270
great. Yeah.

1023
00:57:30,271 --> 00:57:32,229
Yeah so it's like man

1024
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:34,109
but he

1025
00:57:34,110 --> 00:57:35,590
has so much knowledge and

1026
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:43,449
He just thought it was a funny

1027
00:57:43,450 --> 00:57:44,709
way of putting it.

1028
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:46,549
It's mushy, and it's hard

1029
00:57:46,550 --> 00:57:47,829
to filet.

1030
00:57:47,830 --> 00:57:49,809
You'll be like, how I was

1031
00:57:49,810 --> 00:57:51,149
grabbing it and doing that,

1032
00:57:52,170 --> 00:57:54,429
you'll want to squish

1033
00:57:54,430 --> 00:57:56,329
up on the bottom, and it just

1034
00:57:56,330 --> 00:57:57,749
not good.

1035
00:57:57,750 --> 00:58:00,089
Your filet comes out all

1036
00:58:00,090 --> 00:58:02,469
stringy and not

1037
00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:03,438
presentable.

1038
00:58:03,439 --> 00:58:04,719
Actually, I put a bag of ice cream

1039
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,720
in mine.

1040
00:58:12,330 --> 00:58:14,129
Yeah on this fish, I'll show you

1041
00:58:14,130 --> 00:58:15,250
guys how we do the cheeks.

1042
00:58:18,990 --> 00:58:20,409
Just to get that in there.

1043
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,040
Why not? It's a lady.

1044
00:58:27,509 --> 00:58:28,829
Yeah, they just put whatever the

1045
00:58:28,830 --> 00:58:30,070
heck they had on hand.

1046
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:37,190
Thank you.

1047
00:58:46,450 --> 00:58:48,449
Yeah, but I enjoy doing this

1048
00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:49,349
work.

1049
00:58:49,350 --> 00:58:51,689
I feel like what I'm doing

1050
00:58:51,690 --> 00:58:53,569
is for a

1051
00:58:53,570 --> 00:58:54,570
good cause.

1052
00:58:58,470 --> 00:59:00,549
It's, it's not just to benefit

1053
00:59:00,550 --> 00:59:02,909
my people, but like everybody,

1054
00:59:02,910 --> 00:59:04,949
because our data gets shared with

1055
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:07,069
the whole state,

1056
00:59:07,070 --> 00:59:08,070
yeah.

1057
00:59:09,570 --> 00:59:11,389
Do you feel like you have to keep

1058
00:59:11,390 --> 00:59:14,309
pushing the awareness of Mercury?

1059
00:59:14,310 --> 00:59:16,589
Or do most people, I mean,

1060
00:59:16,590 --> 00:59:17,849
your family, your extended family...

1061
00:59:17,850 --> 00:59:20,349
Well, it seems like,

1062
00:59:20,350 --> 00:59:22,829
at least in the Indian community,

1063
00:59:22,830 --> 00:59:24,709
from my perspective, it's seems

1064
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:25,710
like...

1065
00:59:26,380 --> 00:59:27,979
People pay attention to that, you

1066
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:29,879
know? Like, they don't want to

1067
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,599
be poisoning their kids and stuff

1068
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,619
and they don't

1069
00:59:33,620 --> 00:59:34,699
want to give,

1070
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,199
because a lot of the time,

1071
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,619
we're not just keeping this fish for

1072
00:59:39,620 --> 00:59:41,639
ourselves, like we gift it

1073
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,739
or we use it for feasts or

1074
00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:45,120
funerals or whatever,

1075
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,459
and yeah,

1076
00:59:49,620 --> 00:59:51,219
it's an important commodity.

1077
01:00:00,051 --> 01:00:01,890
A lot of non-natives,

1078
01:00:01,891 --> 01:00:03,790
they don't pay attention to it

1079
01:00:03,791 --> 01:00:05,670
because they feel

1080
01:00:05,671 --> 01:00:07,490
like they don t eat to or whatever.

1081
01:00:07,491 --> 01:00:08,310
I don't know.

1082
01:00:08,311 --> 01:00:10,270
I don t know what their logic

1083
01:00:10,271 --> 01:00:12,770
is, but like,

1084
01:00:12,771 --> 01:00:14,650
for instance, Sisquit Lake,

1085
01:00:14,651 --> 01:00:16,570
that is like in our, at least in our

1086
01:00:16,571 --> 01:00:18,310
area, like the really hot lake

1087
01:00:18,311 --> 01:00:20,510
around here, and everybody knows you

1088
01:00:20,511 --> 01:00:22,070
don't eat nothing out of there.

1089
01:00:22,071 --> 01:00:23,950
But I'm pretty sure, like I

1090
01:00:23,951 --> 01:00:25,790
always hear every once in a while

1091
01:00:25,791 --> 01:00:27,590
people talking about eating the

1092
01:00:27,591 --> 01:00:29,010
walleye and stuff out of there.

1093
01:00:29,011 --> 01:00:30,120
And I'm like.

1094
01:00:30,121 --> 01:00:31,980
Yo, you shouldn't even be

1095
01:00:31,981 --> 01:00:33,800
eating that, like.

1096
01:00:33,801 --> 01:00:35,640
And Butch put it to me, Butch

1097
01:00:35,641 --> 01:00:37,040
said this, he's like, I wouldn't

1098
01:00:37,041 --> 01:00:38,880
have my worst enemy eat

1099
01:00:38,881 --> 01:00:40,140
a fish out of that lake.

1100
01:00:41,441 --> 01:00:43,940
That's how he put it, like, he's,

1101
01:00:43,941 --> 01:00:46,400
like that lake is so contaminated

1102
01:00:46,401 --> 01:00:47,980
with mercury.

1103
01:00:47,981 --> 01:00:49,340
Awesome fishing, by the way, over

1104
01:00:49,341 --> 01:00:50,980
there. Like, you can catch some

1105
01:00:50,981 --> 01:00:51,981
fish.

1106
01:00:52,681 --> 01:00:54,760
But, yeah, he said, I would not

1107
01:00:54,761 --> 01:00:56,580
let, I wouldn't have my worse enemy

1108
01:00:56,581 --> 01:00:58,700
eat a fish out o' that lake, but

1109
01:00:58,701 --> 01:00:59,701
some people

1110
01:01:01,051 --> 01:01:03,130
I mean, I understand times are hard,

1111
01:01:03,131 --> 01:01:04,110
you know, you got to do what you got

1112
01:01:04,111 --> 01:01:06,690
to do, but yeah,

1113
01:01:06,691 --> 01:01:08,690
I feel like you got a,

1114
01:01:08,691 --> 01:01:10,650
not just for the

1115
01:01:10,651 --> 01:01:12,070
ABA community, but again, for

1116
01:01:12,071 --> 01:01:13,370
everybody, you gotta push the

1117
01:01:13,371 --> 01:01:15,350
awareness of what you

1118
01:01:15,351 --> 01:01:17,350
can eat, what you cant eat,

1119
01:01:17,351 --> 01:01:19,110
like how much you can have.

1120
01:01:21,351 --> 01:01:23,670
Is there still suspicion

1121
01:01:23,671 --> 01:01:25,570
about someone like the

1122
01:01:25,571 --> 01:01:26,990
warnings and like those are needing

1123
01:01:26,991 --> 01:01:27,990
more than answers?

1124
01:01:27,991 --> 01:01:30,550
Oh yeah, like there's, this

1125
01:01:30,551 --> 01:01:32,430
is just for instance, but like

1126
01:01:32,431 --> 01:01:34,870
just take like the bag limits.

1127
01:01:34,871 --> 01:01:36,870
It's like those bag limits are set

1128
01:01:36,871 --> 01:01:39,550
by the state for a reason,

1129
01:01:39,551 --> 01:01:41,091
and it's,

1130
01:01:42,371 --> 01:01:45,130
this is a

1131
01:01:45,131 --> 01:01:46,131
female,

1132
01:01:47,471 --> 01:01:48,471
a young female.

1133
01:01:51,461 --> 01:01:52,861
But yeah, they set them,

1134
01:01:54,201 --> 01:01:56,480
it's not just for the,

1135
01:01:56,481 --> 01:01:57,900
they're not setting those limits

1136
01:01:57,901 --> 01:01:58,901
just for

1137
01:01:59,861 --> 01:02:01,760
the like the fish numbers,

1138
01:02:01,761 --> 01:02:03,180
you know? They're setting it because

1139
01:02:03,181 --> 01:02:04,960
it's for consumption too.

1140
01:02:04,961 --> 01:02:06,680
Like they don't want people to over,

1141
01:02:06,681 --> 01:02:08,500
it doesn't matter like how small

1142
01:02:08,501 --> 01:02:09,580
they are and stuff.

1143
01:02:09,581 --> 01:02:11,360
It's like they're still in there.

1144
01:02:11,361 --> 01:02:13,900
That you're consuming it, like.

1145
01:02:13,901 --> 01:02:16,240
So yeah, you,

1146
01:02:16,241 --> 01:02:17,241
it, yeah.

1147
01:02:18,091 --> 01:02:19,430
There's a whole lot that goes into

1148
01:02:19,431 --> 01:02:20,530
it, but yeah, for sure.

1149
01:02:20,531 --> 01:02:22,090
You gotta push the awareness, people

1150
01:02:22,091 --> 01:02:23,210
gotta know what's up.

1151
01:02:25,921 --> 01:02:27,440
I was going to say when I was doing

1152
01:02:27,441 --> 01:02:29,260
this program and doing the

1153
01:02:29,261 --> 01:02:31,160
outreach for it, I was kind of

1154
01:02:31,161 --> 01:02:33,420
surprised, like, going to

1155
01:02:33,421 --> 01:02:35,320
the health fairs and putting

1156
01:02:35,321 --> 01:02:36,800
it on the list. Because there's so

1157
01:02:36,801 --> 01:02:38,440
many people doing that.

1158
01:02:38,441 --> 01:02:40,140
Yeah, there's lots of people who do

1159
01:02:52,111 --> 01:02:54,130
Take your kids fishing.

1160
01:02:54,131 --> 01:02:56,010
Yeah, I tried to.

1161
01:02:56,011 --> 01:02:57,790
I mean, it's always a kind of a

1162
01:02:57,791 --> 01:02:59,130
hassle when you got a two and a

1163
01:02:59,131 --> 01:03:01,170
one-year-old, you know, but I

1164
01:03:01,171 --> 01:03:02,591
try to take a fish in.

1165
01:03:04,151 --> 01:03:06,090
My daughter, Daphne, she's

1166
01:03:06,091 --> 01:03:07,450
really good at it.

1167
01:03:09,231 --> 01:03:10,890
First time I took her fish in, she

1168
01:03:10,891 --> 01:03:12,830
caught like

1169
01:03:12,831 --> 01:03:15,210
17 Jumbo Perch.

1170
01:03:15,211 --> 01:03:16,830
Like, they're really good walleyes

1171
01:03:16,831 --> 01:03:19,000
in the river in the fall time.

1172
01:03:19,001 --> 01:03:20,940
Because everybody's not like I

1173
01:03:20,941 --> 01:03:22,840
like all tribe members are in the

1174
01:03:22,841 --> 01:03:24,740
woods everybody's hunting so it

1175
01:03:24,741 --> 01:03:26,540
was like nobody on the river and

1176
01:03:26,541 --> 01:03:28,340
they're just catching monsters like

1177
01:03:28,341 --> 01:03:30,520
so my

1178
01:03:30,521 --> 01:03:31,820
buddy was like how come nobody's how

1179
01:03:31,821 --> 01:03:33,040
come they never see no tribal

1180
01:03:33,041 --> 01:03:34,720
members in the fall time when the

1181
01:03:34,721 --> 01:03:36,380
walleye really biting good like

1182
01:03:36,381 --> 01:03:37,560
because everybody is fishing all

1183
01:03:37,561 --> 01:03:38,561
summer man and

1184
01:03:39,801 --> 01:03:42,620
shit man it's hunting season in

1185
01:03:42,621 --> 01:03:44,740
the ball time everything's game if

1186
01:03:44,741 --> 01:03:46,600
it flies it dies if it

1187
01:03:46,601 --> 01:03:47,901
It's down, it's down.

1188
01:03:51,241 --> 01:03:52,561
Everything's game.

1189
01:04:01,151 --> 01:04:02,990
Jake's the partridge master.

1190
01:04:02,991 --> 01:04:04,730
He's the the master grouse hunter

1191
01:04:04,731 --> 01:04:05,731
around here.

1192
01:04:07,741 --> 01:04:10,000
Can I get my share?

1193
01:04:11,801 --> 01:04:12,030
Plus.

1194
01:04:12,031 --> 01:04:13,770
Plus other people share.

1195
01:04:13,771 --> 01:04:15,520
Ha ha ha ha!

1196
01:04:15,521 --> 01:04:16,840
Nah, he's really good at hunting

1197
01:04:16,841 --> 01:04:17,841
girls, though.

1198
01:04:22,561 --> 01:04:24,720
I shot Coney last year.

1199
01:04:24,721 --> 01:04:27,420
Coney over last year

1200
01:04:27,421 --> 01:04:29,580
He's a dog?

1201
01:04:29,581 --> 01:04:30,900
No.

1202
01:04:30,901 --> 01:04:32,051
Coney. They're too big.

1203
01:04:33,431 --> 01:04:34,431
They're big.

1204
01:04:35,551 --> 01:04:37,050
They're in a neck or a tail.

1205
01:04:37,051 --> 01:04:38,130
See, you hear me?

1206
01:04:38,131 --> 01:04:40,270
Oh, I got 20 last year.

1207
01:04:40,271 --> 01:04:42,450
I'm lucky to get maybe two or three.

1208
01:04:47,561 --> 01:04:48,901
So is that all on the ground?

1209
01:04:51,001 --> 01:04:52,001
Then you just gotta know how to seal.

1210
01:04:53,071 --> 01:04:54,730
If you look at the fire, you're

1211
01:04:54,731 --> 01:04:55,731
still on fire.

1212
01:04:56,731 --> 01:04:57,930
They just sit there and let you

1213
01:04:57,931 --> 01:04:59,010
shoot.

1214
01:04:59,011 --> 01:05:01,050
Well, they'll, it's, their, their

1215
01:05:01,051 --> 01:05:02,610
coloration, it is crazy, their

1216
01:05:02,611 --> 01:05:04,591
coloration blend in so good.

1217
01:05:06,411 --> 01:05:08,110
I've gotten to like me to you away

1218
01:05:08,111 --> 01:05:09,810
and they didn't move until like I

1219
01:05:09,811 --> 01:05:10,890
took another step and.

1220
01:05:12,581 --> 01:05:13,390
I have a heart attack.

1221
01:05:13,391 --> 01:05:15,090
Oh yeah, cause I didn't even see him

1222
01:05:15,091 --> 01:05:16,091
like...

1223
01:05:18,231 --> 01:05:19,570
Just right the roads and just look

1224
01:05:19,571 --> 01:05:21,570
in the woods,

1225
01:05:21,571 --> 01:05:22,730
pretty sure you see them.

1226
01:05:22,731 --> 01:05:23,731
Yeah, sometimes.

1227
01:05:27,071 --> 01:05:29,050
Sometimes they'll send out like

1228
01:05:29,051 --> 01:05:31,070
a Judas one where

1229
01:05:31,071 --> 01:05:32,770
they'll sacrifice them.

1230
01:05:32,771 --> 01:05:34,570
You'll shoot that one while there's

1231
01:05:34,571 --> 01:05:36,230
like 20 of them over here in the

1232
01:05:36,231 --> 01:05:37,430
trees you don't even know.

1233
01:05:38,431 --> 01:05:39,750
So usually when you pop one you

1234
01:05:39,751 --> 01:05:41,310
gotta like look around you'll see

1235
01:05:41,311 --> 01:05:43,910
like a couple more walking around.

1236
01:05:43,911 --> 01:05:44,911
It's usually not long.

1237
01:05:47,761 --> 01:05:49,500
But yeah, fall time is my favorite

1238
01:05:49,501 --> 01:05:50,520
time of year around here.

1239
01:05:50,521 --> 01:05:52,660
It seems like you can do anything

1240
01:05:52,661 --> 01:05:53,560
you want.

1241
01:05:53,561 --> 01:05:55,420
You can, there's still some

1242
01:05:55,421 --> 01:05:57,020
berries out there that are good,

1243
01:05:57,021 --> 01:05:58,620
blackberries are still good.

1244
01:05:59,781 --> 01:06:00,900
Fishing is primo,

1245
01:06:02,341 --> 01:06:03,680
hunting is bomb.

1246
01:06:05,521 --> 01:06:06,940
And again, you can hunt whatever you

1247
01:06:06,941 --> 01:06:07,820
want then.

1248
01:06:07,821 --> 01:06:09,340
You wanna go duck hunting, you go

1249
01:06:09,341 --> 01:06:10,220
duck huntin'.

1250
01:06:10,221 --> 01:06:12,100
Wanna go hunt some, wanna go

1251
01:06:12,101 --> 01:06:13,300
hunt partridge, you go huntin'

1252
01:06:13,301 --> 01:06:14,500
partridge.

1253
01:06:14,501 --> 01:06:15,940
Wanna go turkey huntin', go turkey

1254
01:06:15,941 --> 01:06:16,900
hunting.

1255
01:06:16,901 --> 01:06:18,980
Want to go pop a bear, go pop bear.

1256
01:06:18,981 --> 01:06:20,820
Coyotes, go bust some coyotes.

1257
01:06:20,821 --> 01:06:21,921
You can do whatever you want,

1258
01:06:23,101 --> 01:06:24,101
I love fall time.

1259
01:06:29,211 --> 01:06:31,190
So I was telling Josh when he got up

1260
01:06:31,191 --> 01:06:32,890
there, oh man, you gotta get a gun.

1261
01:06:34,131 --> 01:06:35,670
What, what? No, I can't get it.

1262
01:06:35,671 --> 01:06:36,990
I'm like, dude, you got to get one,

1263
01:06:36,991 --> 01:06:38,010
dude. I'm, like, you've got to go

1264
01:06:38,011 --> 01:06:39,970
hunting, dude like.

1265
01:06:41,571 --> 01:06:43,170
Why do I need to go huntin'?

1266
01:06:43,171 --> 01:06:44,730
I'm to know where your meat came

1267
01:06:44,731 --> 01:06:45,731
from.

1268
01:06:46,311 --> 01:06:47,551
Yeah, I guess you're right.

1269
01:06:55,991 --> 01:06:56,991
For what?

1270
01:06:59,721 --> 01:07:01,440
You know, that's all you need is one

1271
01:07:01,441 --> 01:07:04,100
to get you a little 4'10".

1272
01:07:04,101 --> 01:07:05,470
Yeah, I just needed a super one.

1273
01:07:05,471 --> 01:07:06,711
You can pop some birds.

1274
01:07:09,101 --> 01:07:10,820
Same as my twenty-two bag.

1275
01:07:10,821 --> 01:07:13,000
Yep, 22 megs,

1276
01:07:13,001 --> 01:07:14,380
right to the head.

1277
01:07:14,381 --> 01:07:16,420
You don't have to take it

1278
01:07:16,421 --> 01:07:17,421
easy.

1279
01:07:25,031 --> 01:07:26,751
Now I'm home in one big fire.

1280
01:07:30,901 --> 01:07:32,340
Yep, you can put it in there.

1281
01:07:32,341 --> 01:07:34,220
Marcus said if it flies it dies and

1282
01:07:34,221 --> 01:07:36,520
if it's brown it's down and

1283
01:07:36,521 --> 01:07:37,521
it'll fall.

1284
01:07:41,191 --> 01:07:42,870
What does the first brown mean?

1285
01:07:45,781 --> 01:07:47,700
Like a deer?

1286
01:07:47,701 --> 01:07:50,180
Like Bambi? If it's Bamby,

1287
01:07:50,181 --> 01:07:52,780
if it's a dog, if it's Bob,

1288
01:07:52,781 --> 01:07:53,960
throw lead.

1289
01:07:53,961 --> 01:07:54,961
Throw lead.

1290
01:07:57,611 --> 01:07:59,010
That's something my Uncle Rob told

1291
01:07:59,011 --> 01:07:59,551
me when I was...

1292
01:07:59,552 --> 01:08:00,552
When I was...

1293
01:08:03,011 --> 01:08:04,830
I went hunting, he took me

1294
01:08:04,831 --> 01:08:06,490
hunting and when I shot my first

1295
01:08:06,491 --> 01:08:07,790
deer he's like, Marcus I'm going to

1296
01:08:07,791 --> 01:08:09,470
tell you something that my dad told

1297
01:08:09,471 --> 01:08:10,710
me.

1298
01:08:10,711 --> 01:08:12,690
You see fur in that scope,

1299
01:08:12,691 --> 01:08:14,530
throw a lad, you just throw a Lad

1300
01:08:14,531 --> 01:08:16,550
my boy, throw lad,

1301
01:08:16,551 --> 01:08:17,450
your sure uncle?

1302
01:08:17,451 --> 01:08:18,590
Yup, you throw lad.

1303
01:08:18,591 --> 01:08:19,990
He's like don't listen to me because

1304
01:08:19,991 --> 01:08:21,930
it was the night before we

1305
01:08:21,931 --> 01:08:23,230
were hunting down at his brother

1306
01:08:23,231 --> 01:08:24,390
Dave's cabin.

1307
01:08:24,391 --> 01:08:24,710
Yeah

1308
01:08:24,711 --> 01:08:26,610
And I had

1309
01:08:26,611 --> 01:08:28,390
a deer in the skull.

1310
01:08:28,391 --> 01:08:30,270
And, don't shoot it, don't

1311
01:08:30,271 --> 01:08:31,990
shoot it. Don't shoot.

1312
01:08:31,991 --> 01:08:33,890
So I didn't shoot and,

1313
01:08:33,891 --> 01:08:34,810
did you see a deer?

1314
01:08:34,811 --> 01:08:36,090
Yeah, I was gonna shoot it but you

1315
01:08:36,091 --> 01:08:37,030
told me not to.

1316
01:08:37,031 --> 01:08:38,311
Don't listen to me.

1317
01:08:39,511 --> 01:08:41,390
Every time I'm hunting and

1318
01:08:41,391 --> 01:08:43,531
I see fur, I'm throwing lead.

1319
01:08:45,171 --> 01:08:47,210
I feel like I failed if

1320
01:08:47,211 --> 01:08:49,090
I didn't pull the trigger and I've

1321
01:08:49,091 --> 01:08:50,030
seen something.

1322
01:08:50,031 --> 01:08:51,780
Like even if I missed.

1323
01:08:51,781 --> 01:08:53,760
I knew, like, I took the shot,

1324
01:08:53,761 --> 01:08:56,280
you know, like.

1325
01:08:56,281 --> 01:08:57,321
Cause you never know.

1326
01:08:59,041 --> 01:09:00,160
Shit, I might have tumbled or

1327
01:09:00,161 --> 01:09:01,161
something and hit it.

1328
01:09:03,811 --> 01:09:06,350
Yeah, oh yeah, it's another one too.

1329
01:09:06,351 --> 01:09:08,330
My Uncle Rob, yeah, I went hunting

1330
01:09:08,331 --> 01:09:11,570
with my brother Scott

1331
01:09:11,571 --> 01:09:13,550
and we seen Bullwinkle come

1332
01:09:13,551 --> 01:09:14,890
out.

1333
01:09:14,891 --> 01:09:16,590
But all I seen was ass.

1334
01:09:16,591 --> 01:09:18,750
Oh, god damn it, Scotty.

1335
01:09:18,751 --> 01:09:20,370
He's like, I shot lots of big deer

1336
01:09:20,371 --> 01:09:22,190
in the ass but they're always on the

1337
01:09:22,191 --> 01:09:23,590
ground. He's, like, you would have

1338
01:09:23,591 --> 01:09:25,650
had them on the groun.

1339
01:09:25,651 --> 01:09:27,690
He was like, oh man,

1340
01:09:27,691 --> 01:09:29,230
he was really kicking himself in the

1341
01:09:29,231 --> 01:09:30,231
a** after that.

1342
01:09:31,241 --> 01:09:31,840
Yeah

1343
01:09:31,841 --> 01:09:33,300
Yeah, I'm just going to show them

1344
01:09:33,301 --> 01:09:35,040
how to take the cheeks out really

1345
01:09:35,041 --> 01:09:36,041
quick.

1346
01:09:40,181 --> 01:09:41,181
So then you get one.

1347
01:09:43,891 --> 01:09:44,891
Did I close that?

1348
01:09:48,791 --> 01:09:49,791
I think I zoomed in.

1349
01:09:55,201 --> 01:09:55,940
Yeah, too

1350
01:09:55,941 --> 01:09:56,940
Voila!

1351
01:09:56,941 --> 01:09:58,780
Yeah, see, it's like,

1352
01:09:58,781 --> 01:10:00,720
that's a, what are they, that

1353
01:10:00,721 --> 01:10:02,400
a scallop. It's a Bad River scallop

1354
01:10:02,401 --> 01:10:03,401
right there.

1355
01:10:05,421 --> 01:10:06,820
But yeah, that's what we usually do.

1356
01:10:06,821 --> 01:10:08,040
You got the cheeks, you'll take the

1357
01:10:08,041 --> 01:10:09,041
cheeks off, you know?

1358
01:10:11,331 --> 01:10:14,130
Yeah, it's a bad river scallop.

1359
01:10:14,131 --> 01:10:15,511
We don't know how fresh it is.

1360
01:10:20,001 --> 01:10:21,260
Yep.

1361
01:10:21,261 --> 01:10:22,660
Shoot him in the ass though.

1362
01:10:22,661 --> 01:10:23,660
That's what my uncle wrote.

1363
01:10:23,661 --> 01:10:25,540
If you see a big one, shoot

1364
01:10:25,541 --> 01:10:27,140
him. Even if it's in the ass, you'll

1365
01:10:27,141 --> 01:10:28,960
get him on the ground.

1366
01:10:28,961 --> 01:10:30,600
He shot a really big buck, really

1367
01:10:30,601 --> 01:10:32,500
big nine pointer in

1368
01:10:32,501 --> 01:10:34,520
velvet one time and

1369
01:10:34,521 --> 01:10:36,101
he shot that one in the a**.

1370
01:10:37,341 --> 01:10:38,820
So he always told me, remember that

1371
01:10:38,821 --> 01:10:40,480
big nine-pointer I shot?

1372
01:10:40,481 --> 01:10:42,340
Yeah, shot that one in the an**.

1373
01:10:42,341 --> 01:10:43,681
Yep, I still got him though.

1374
01:10:53,941 --> 01:10:54,941
That, uh,

1375
01:10:56,181 --> 01:10:57,140
that buck is still at the

1376
01:10:57,141 --> 01:10:58,670
taxidermist, ain't it?

1377
01:10:58,671 --> 01:11:00,530
He said he put it or you said

1378
01:11:00,531 --> 01:11:02,600
you put it in the freezer here

1379
01:11:02,601 --> 01:11:04,720
He took it up with the taxidermist

1380
01:11:04,721 --> 01:11:06,740
and the guy wanted too

1381
01:11:06,741 --> 01:11:09,120
much and he said, ah, fuck that,

1382
01:11:09,121 --> 01:11:11,030
I'll pay for it.

1383
01:11:11,031 --> 01:11:12,110
WHAT?!

1384
01:11:12,111 --> 01:11:13,551
I never did that!

1385
01:11:15,121 --> 01:11:16,121
That's a good

1386
01:11:17,281 --> 01:11:18,461
Nice velvet bike.

1387
01:11:29,991 --> 01:11:30,991
I'm sorry.

1388
01:11:38,411 --> 01:11:40,230
This is the size

1389
01:11:40,231 --> 01:11:42,230
of filet that people should

1390
01:11:42,231 --> 01:11:43,130
be wearing.

1391
01:11:43,131 --> 01:11:45,150
Yeah this is the size you shouldn't

1392
01:11:45,151 --> 01:11:47,390
be eating but like

1393
01:11:47,391 --> 01:11:49,230
there's like again i grew

1394
01:11:49,231 --> 01:11:51,490
up my whole life we we'd get we

1395
01:11:51,491 --> 01:11:53,510
wouldn't put this back but my

1396
01:11:53,511 --> 01:11:55,170
uncle would be like this is the fish

1397
01:11:55,171 --> 01:11:57,250
we put this in our pile he'd

1398
01:11:57,251 --> 01:11:58,750
be like, this is this is for me and

1399
01:11:58,751 --> 01:12:01,130
you like this it's

1400
01:12:01,131 --> 01:12:02,910
for the women and children this is

1401
01:12:02,911 --> 01:12:05,230
where the men poison

1402
01:12:05,231 --> 01:12:07,070
the men we don't

1403
01:12:07,071 --> 01:12:09,110
need to live that much longer like

1404
01:12:09,111 --> 01:12:10,111
we're all right

1405
01:12:14,651 --> 01:12:16,510
But no, I still think

1406
01:12:16,511 --> 01:12:18,290
that way.

1407
01:12:18,291 --> 01:12:20,070
It's like, no, women and children

1408
01:12:20,071 --> 01:12:21,990
get the little ones.

1409
01:12:21,991 --> 01:12:23,330
Men can get the big, huge ones.

1410
01:12:23,331 --> 01:12:24,570
We can poison ourselves.

1411
01:12:26,331 --> 01:12:27,930
Yeah, we're doing our part.

1412
01:12:27,931 --> 01:12:29,090
We're getting the fish for them.

1413
01:12:30,131 --> 01:12:31,250
The tail is no more.

1414
01:12:40,961 --> 01:12:42,000
Did I tell you what this was?

1415
01:12:43,361 --> 01:12:44,361
This is a female.

1416
01:12:49,871 --> 01:12:51,790
There's only one female that had

1417
01:12:51,791 --> 01:12:52,891
a bunch of eggs in it, huh?

1418
01:12:52,892 --> 01:12:55,500
There's a lot of fish in there.

1419
01:12:55,501 --> 01:12:56,660
Oh, it's a good option.

1420
01:12:56,661 --> 01:12:57,661
Well, per-

1421
01:12:58,561 --> 01:12:59,802
Okay, perfect size.

1422
01:13:02,321 --> 01:13:03,610
Yeah, there you go.

1423
01:13:03,611 --> 01:13:04,950
It's a kind of rattle.

1424
01:13:04,951 --> 01:13:06,910
So that's how it happens?

1425
01:13:06,911 --> 01:13:08,370
That's how that happens.

1426
01:13:08,371 --> 01:13:09,750
It builds up from the plankton of

1427
01:13:09,751 --> 01:13:10,910
the little critters, a little

1428
01:13:10,911 --> 01:13:12,770
invertebrate here, and

1429
01:13:12,771 --> 01:13:14,830
this little nugget for that one.

1430
01:13:14,831 --> 01:13:16,810
And you see it can eat at least

1431
01:13:16,811 --> 01:13:17,811
five or six.

1432
01:13:19,171 --> 01:13:21,330
Yeah, cuz look at his little

1433
01:13:21,331 --> 01:13:22,331
gullets fall

1434
01:13:23,011 --> 01:13:24,011
See, that's what you're,

1435
01:13:24,971 --> 01:13:26,310
that's the kind of lure you get in

1436
01:13:26,311 --> 01:13:27,390
control with.

1437
01:13:27,391 --> 01:13:28,391
You got a little perch.

1438
01:13:29,771 --> 01:13:30,910
You control it.

1439
01:13:30,911 --> 01:13:32,130
It's all laying on the river like

1440
01:13:32,131 --> 01:13:32,770
crazy.

1441
01:13:32,771 --> 01:13:34,870
There's another one right here

1442
01:13:34,871 --> 01:13:37,150
It's kind of like a school, eh?

1443
01:13:37,151 --> 01:13:38,511
Oh my god. You know what I'm talking

1444
01:13:38,512 --> 01:13:40,290
about.

1445
01:13:40,291 --> 01:13:41,291
Yeah.

1446
01:13:42,051 --> 01:13:44,290
I'm in, and I'm

1447
01:13:44,291 --> 01:13:45,070
out.

1448
01:13:45,071 --> 01:13:46,750
It's a good catch.

1449
01:13:46,751 --> 01:13:48,711
That's all it does, is a perch.

1450
01:13:50,301 --> 01:13:53,060
Yeah, and these

1451
01:13:53,061 --> 01:13:55,420
fish come from a closed system,

1452
01:13:55,421 --> 01:13:57,200
which is like just an inland lake

1453
01:13:57,201 --> 01:13:59,060
that's locked off from like the big

1454
01:13:59,061 --> 01:14:00,060
lake.

1455
01:14:00,061 --> 01:14:02,380
If these were from the big Lake,

1456
01:14:02,381 --> 01:14:04,140
they wouldn't have these perch in

1457
01:14:04,141 --> 01:14:05,820
them, they'd have smelt in them.

1458
01:14:05,821 --> 01:14:07,860
Because that's how our system,

1459
01:14:07,861 --> 01:14:10,000
the river is, is an open system.

1460
01:14:10,001 --> 01:14:11,380
So that's what we got.

1461
01:14:11,381 --> 01:14:12,940
When we caught up with open hours,

1462
01:14:12,941 --> 01:14:15,060
like at this time or in the

1463
01:14:15,061 --> 01:14:16,980
springtime or early summer, it's all

1464
01:14:16,981 --> 01:14:17,981
smelt.

1465
01:14:18,671 --> 01:14:20,270
Don't really got a whole lot of

1466
01:14:20,271 --> 01:14:21,850
perch. I noticed that when I was

1467
01:14:21,851 --> 01:14:24,170
fileting up all these inland lakes

1468
01:14:24,171 --> 01:14:25,990
that if they had anything in them

1469
01:14:25,991 --> 01:14:27,410
it was all little perch.

1470
01:14:31,481 --> 01:14:33,320
Because they starved themselves

1471
01:14:33,321 --> 01:14:34,360
before.

1472
01:14:36,931 --> 01:14:39,830
And then after, before

1473
01:14:39,831 --> 01:14:41,710
they spawn, they starve themselves,

1474
01:14:41,711 --> 01:14:42,910
right? And then it's like after,

1475
01:14:42,911 --> 01:14:44,470
when they come back out, they're

1476
01:14:44,471 --> 01:14:45,350
hungry as crap.

1477
01:14:45,351 --> 01:14:46,631
Yeah, eating everything up.

1478
01:14:48,591 --> 01:14:50,070
Cold and deep and crazy on the

1479
01:14:50,071 --> 01:14:51,071
river.

1480
01:14:51,731 --> 01:14:54,090
Oh yeah, in the springtime.

1481
01:14:54,091 --> 01:14:56,130
It's awesome trolling.

1482
01:14:56,131 --> 01:14:57,190
Awesome trolling!

1483
01:15:10,091 --> 01:15:11,131
I'm gonna give you a musk.

1484
01:15:13,381 --> 01:15:15,061
Yeah, man, they're...

1485
01:15:17,241 --> 01:15:19,580
I've never really had musky,

1486
01:15:19,581 --> 01:15:21,240
but I've eaten northern my entire

1487
01:15:21,241 --> 01:15:22,960
life, so I'm pretty sure it's...

1488
01:15:22,961 --> 01:15:24,260
It's better.

1489
01:15:24,261 --> 01:15:24,770
Is it?

1490
01:15:24,771 --> 01:15:26,370
Yeah, I'm straight up through it all

1491
01:15:26,371 --> 01:15:27,230
out of my book.

1492
01:15:27,231 --> 01:15:28,270
No way.

1493
01:15:28,271 --> 01:15:29,431
Yeah, right in our reading.

1494
01:15:30,721 --> 01:15:32,330
Hey, underneath it.

1495
01:15:32,331 --> 01:15:34,670
I didn't see a bunch of perch.

1496
01:15:34,671 --> 01:15:36,570
I don't know, all that perch must be

1497
01:15:36,571 --> 01:15:38,570
in all three

1498
01:15:38,571 --> 01:15:39,571
of those hoodies.

1499
01:15:48,381 --> 01:15:50,220
Do Muskie have the lagoon, like the

1500
01:15:50,221 --> 01:15:51,740
northern lagoon? Yeah.

1501
01:15:51,741 --> 01:15:53,680
And that's why people don't

1502
01:15:53,681 --> 01:15:54,681
want to be in it.

1503
01:15:55,941 --> 01:15:57,320
But if they screw, we'll have to win

1504
01:15:57,321 --> 01:15:57,760
it.

1505
01:15:57,761 --> 01:15:59,161
I know how to cut around that.

1506
01:16:00,341 --> 01:16:02,100
The way I've learned how to do them

1507
01:16:02,101 --> 01:16:04,300
is like, like if this was like

1508
01:16:04,301 --> 01:16:06,520
a northern or a musky,

1509
01:16:06,521 --> 01:16:08,440
I would come down the back and hit

1510
01:16:08,441 --> 01:16:10,380
this big filet because they don't

1511
01:16:10,381 --> 01:16:12,400
have this like big dorsal fin.

1512
01:16:12,401 --> 01:16:13,660
There's like a big chunk of meat

1513
01:16:13,661 --> 01:16:14,660
here.

1514
01:16:14,661 --> 01:16:16,560
So I'd hit that and have like that

1515
01:16:16,561 --> 01:16:17,760
chilling.

1516
01:16:17,761 --> 01:16:19,080
And then I would, yep, and then I'd

1517
01:16:19,081 --> 01:16:20,660
just hit the tails.

1518
01:16:20,661 --> 01:16:22,360
And then if you really want, you're

1519
01:16:22,361 --> 01:16:24,300
really hard up, then you can go down

1520
01:16:24,301 --> 01:16:25,301
the sides

1521
01:16:26,601 --> 01:16:28,800
And then you can get like a decent

1522
01:16:28,801 --> 01:16:30,380
square of meat, but it's really

1523
01:16:30,381 --> 01:16:31,260
thin.

1524
01:16:31,261 --> 01:16:32,920
So I always just left that for the

1525
01:16:32,921 --> 01:16:34,160
critters and the eagles.

1526
01:16:34,161 --> 01:16:35,220
I'm like, ah, they, they need

1527
01:16:35,221 --> 01:16:36,080
something to eat too.

1528
01:16:36,081 --> 01:16:38,160
They can have that, but

1529
01:16:38,161 --> 01:16:39,980
yeah, my uncle Steve showed me

1530
01:16:39,981 --> 01:16:41,670
how to cut them all.

1531
01:16:41,671 --> 01:16:43,390
I don't need that mask anymore,

1532
01:16:43,391 --> 01:16:44,391
that's good.

1533
01:16:46,321 --> 01:16:47,660
Ha ha ha ha

1534
01:16:48,691 --> 01:16:50,030
You don't leave it there on the

1535
01:16:50,031 --> 01:16:51,130
mosquitoes, do you?

1536
01:16:51,131 --> 01:16:52,391
You can eat it on your own.

1537
01:17:09,091 --> 01:17:10,930
Sometimes we get them in there,

1538
01:17:10,931 --> 01:17:12,970
they've been speared.

1539
01:17:12,971 --> 01:17:15,050
So if you're a master

1540
01:17:15,051 --> 01:17:16,190
spear, you go for the head.

1541
01:17:16,191 --> 01:17:17,650
They go for head shots.

1542
01:17:17,651 --> 01:17:19,470
But the young kids and youngsters

1543
01:17:19,471 --> 01:17:20,550
are first timers.

1544
01:17:20,551 --> 01:17:22,090
They get them the body.

1545
01:17:22,091 --> 01:17:23,950
But when the master

1546
01:17:23,951 --> 01:17:26,050
dudes hit them, sometimes

1547
01:17:26,051 --> 01:17:27,170
I don't get otolithed.

1548
01:17:27,171 --> 01:17:29,950
The otoliths are blown out.

1549
01:17:29,951 --> 01:17:31,790
Thankfully all year I've been

1550
01:17:31,791 --> 01:17:33,630
lucked out and I've found

1551
01:17:33,631 --> 01:17:35,510
one or part of one or

1552
01:17:35,511 --> 01:17:37,690
something. But yeah,

1553
01:17:37,691 --> 01:17:38,860
usually they are.

1554
01:17:38,861 --> 01:17:40,720
The master jabbers can,

1555
01:17:40,721 --> 01:17:42,380
yeah, they just blow it all, ain't

1556
01:17:42,381 --> 01:17:43,381
nothing left there.

1557
01:17:45,731 --> 01:17:46,731
Some strep to head.

1558
01:17:51,511 --> 01:17:53,590
Man, like I said, I've

1559
01:17:53,591 --> 01:17:55,450
speared too, but it's a lot of

1560
01:17:55,451 --> 01:17:57,550
work spearing, like for real.

1561
01:17:57,551 --> 01:17:59,170
It's, people don't think it's alot

1562
01:17:59,171 --> 01:18:01,251
of work, but when you think about,

1563
01:18:02,731 --> 01:18:04,930
I'll put it to you this way,

1564
01:18:04,931 --> 01:18:06,970
what sounds easier to you,

1565
01:18:06,971 --> 01:18:08,890
going, taking a

1566
01:18:08,891 --> 01:18:11,310
couple hours to go down the road and

1567
01:18:11,311 --> 01:18:13,530
put a net in that might take like,

1568
01:18:13,531 --> 01:18:15,910
what, an hour and a half to set,

1569
01:18:15,911 --> 01:18:17,250
then going home and chilling all

1570
01:18:17,251 --> 01:18:19,010
night, checking it in the morning,

1571
01:18:19,011 --> 01:18:21,670
or would you rather

1572
01:18:21,671 --> 01:18:24,050
Pack up for a couple hours,

1573
01:18:24,051 --> 01:18:25,910
get you and your buddy, load

1574
01:18:25,911 --> 01:18:27,810
up the boat, go gas

1575
01:18:27,811 --> 01:18:30,110
up the boat and your truck,

1576
01:18:30,111 --> 01:18:32,150
drive maybe four or five

1577
01:18:32,151 --> 01:18:33,970
hours to a lake,

1578
01:18:33,971 --> 01:18:36,110
wait till it gets dark,

1579
01:18:36,111 --> 01:18:38,330
then go jab all night

1580
01:18:38,331 --> 01:18:39,830
till you meet your quota or you

1581
01:18:39,831 --> 01:18:41,870
might not meet your quota, come

1582
01:18:41,871 --> 01:18:43,870
in, wait for the Creole clerks

1583
01:18:43,871 --> 01:18:45,310
to count all your fish because they

1584
01:18:45,311 --> 01:18:47,300
gotta sit there and count your fish.

1585
01:18:47,301 --> 01:18:49,360
Then you got to load up your fish,

1586
01:18:49,361 --> 01:18:51,860
drive all the way back home,

1587
01:18:51,861 --> 01:18:53,800
and now you got to contemplate, do

1588
01:18:53,801 --> 01:18:55,860
I stay out and filet all these

1589
01:18:55,861 --> 01:18:57,820
fish, or do I put

1590
01:18:57,821 --> 01:18:59,640
them in the cooler and go to bed?

1591
01:19:01,161 --> 01:19:03,300
To me

1592
01:19:03,301 --> 01:19:04,541
it doesn't make any sense,

1593
01:19:05,641 --> 01:19:07,840
but I understand that

1594
01:19:07,841 --> 01:19:09,740
our ancestors fought for the rights

1595
01:19:09,741 --> 01:19:12,280
for us to like continue doing that.

1596
01:19:12,281 --> 01:19:15,180
So it's important too,

1597
01:19:15,181 --> 01:19:17,060
but to me I'd rather go sit

1598
01:19:17,061 --> 01:19:18,061
in that.

1599
01:19:18,331 --> 01:19:19,110
I'm a net guy.

1600
01:19:19,111 --> 01:19:20,830
You can't set nets on the lakes

1601
01:19:20,831 --> 01:19:21,831
though, right?

1602
01:19:22,421 --> 01:19:24,440
Um, we can do,

1603
01:19:25,561 --> 01:19:27,560
we could, we got, we,

1604
01:19:27,561 --> 01:19:29,700
it depends like the

1605
01:19:29,701 --> 01:19:31,100
time of year.

1606
01:19:31,101 --> 01:19:32,560
So like if you went out in the

1607
01:19:32,561 --> 01:19:34,240
springtime and tried to do what we

1608
01:19:34,241 --> 01:19:35,940
call like a lake set, so like that

1609
01:19:35,941 --> 01:19:38,380
would be, just say,

1610
01:19:38,381 --> 01:19:41,440
say this is, say, this is like the

1611
01:19:41,441 --> 01:19:43,080
beach, right?

1612
01:19:43,081 --> 01:19:44,081
This is the lake.

1613
01:19:44,941 --> 01:19:46,580
Our nets are going to be sitting out

1614
01:19:46,581 --> 01:19:47,800
like this.

1615
01:19:47,801 --> 01:19:49,600
Like we got it anchored to a point

1616
01:19:49,601 --> 01:19:51,280
and then we got stretched out and it

1617
01:19:51,281 --> 01:19:52,281
stops right here.

1618
01:19:54,141 --> 01:19:55,680
If we tried to do that in the

1619
01:19:55,681 --> 01:19:56,980
springtime, this is going to be

1620
01:19:56,981 --> 01:19:58,480
loaded up with suckers.

1621
01:19:58,481 --> 01:19:59,560
None but suckers!

1622
01:19:59,561 --> 01:20:01,300
You're going to have a biomass of

1623
01:20:01,301 --> 01:20:03,160
like 5,000 suckers, you're going to

1624
01:20:03,161 --> 01:20:05,020
have in every hole you're gonna

1625
01:20:05,021 --> 01:20:06,060
have a sucker.

1626
01:20:06,061 --> 01:20:08,080
You might get five lake

1627
01:20:08,081 --> 01:20:09,900
fish out of all them

1628
01:20:09,901 --> 01:20:11,960
suckers so it's like you gotta wait

1629
01:20:11,961 --> 01:20:13,800
till like summertime like right

1630
01:20:13,801 --> 01:20:15,600
like middle of summer.

1631
01:20:15,601 --> 01:20:17,120
Yeah like that's when you can go do

1632
01:20:17,121 --> 01:20:18,580
a lake set and you'll catch some

1633
01:20:18,581 --> 01:20:19,581
good lakers.

1634
01:20:21,841 --> 01:20:23,780
You'll but it

1635
01:20:23,781 --> 01:20:26,680
depends on when you do it and

1636
01:20:26,681 --> 01:20:28,360
I guess the wave action too when

1637
01:20:28,361 --> 01:20:30,560
you're doing it because

1638
01:20:30,561 --> 01:20:32,480
we used to try to do lake sets

1639
01:20:32,481 --> 01:20:34,320
when I was younger but every time

1640
01:20:34,321 --> 01:20:36,500
we did biomass

1641
01:20:36,501 --> 01:20:37,781
of suckers or

1642
01:20:39,121 --> 01:20:41,140
there's a lot of

1643
01:20:41,141 --> 01:20:43,040
trees and stuff coming out like

1644
01:20:43,041 --> 01:20:45,210
from the spring washout and stuff.

1645
01:20:45,211 --> 01:20:46,810
So it's like every once in a while

1646
01:20:46,811 --> 01:20:48,750
you might get like a big wad or

1647
01:20:48,751 --> 01:20:50,250
something wrapped up in your net

1648
01:20:50,251 --> 01:20:52,330
then you're sitting there all day

1649
01:20:52,331 --> 01:20:54,530
untangling the net cutting your

1650
01:20:54,531 --> 01:20:56,011
neck cutting rope like

1651
01:20:57,311 --> 01:20:59,690
pissed off man like

1652
01:20:59,691 --> 01:21:01,910
so yeah it's

1653
01:21:01,911 --> 01:21:04,450
uh you can yeah

1654
01:21:04,451 --> 01:21:05,930
there's but there's a difference

1655
01:21:05,931 --> 01:21:07,830
between like setting out

1656
01:21:07,831 --> 01:21:09,790
in the lake and like doing

1657
01:21:09,791 --> 01:21:11,770
a lake set so

1658
01:21:11,771 --> 01:21:13,780
I'm From what I was told,

1659
01:21:13,781 --> 01:21:15,600
we used to be able to do,

1660
01:21:15,601 --> 01:21:17,820
to set out in the lake,

1661
01:21:17,821 --> 01:21:19,760
but like everybody and their grandma

1662
01:21:19,761 --> 01:21:21,220
was doing that back in the day.

1663
01:21:21,221 --> 01:21:23,220
So we like kind of fished it out.

1664
01:21:23,221 --> 01:21:25,200
So they put a kibosh on

1665
01:21:25,201 --> 01:21:26,100
that.

1666
01:21:26,101 --> 01:21:27,800
And now it's like, if you want to

1667
01:21:27,801 --> 01:21:29,080
fish out there, you gotta have a

1668
01:21:29,081 --> 01:21:31,660
commercial fishing license or

1669
01:21:31,661 --> 01:21:32,560
whatever.

1670
01:21:32,561 --> 01:21:35,800
My grandpa used to do lake sets and-

1671
01:21:35,801 --> 01:21:36,880
In the lakes.

1672
01:21:36,881 --> 01:21:38,550
But yeah, they-

1673
01:21:38,551 --> 01:21:40,310
I can only do one or you can either

1674
01:21:40,311 --> 01:21:41,860
spear or commit.

1675
01:21:41,861 --> 01:21:44,420
Yeah, so, yeah,

1676
01:21:44,421 --> 01:21:45,421
so.

1677
01:21:47,841 --> 01:21:48,860
Yeah, many more finishes.

1678
01:21:50,991 --> 01:21:53,090
But yeah and then another thing too

1679
01:21:53,091 --> 01:21:54,930
is okay you

1680
01:21:54,931 --> 01:21:57,390
might go out all night and

1681
01:21:57,391 --> 01:21:59,230
say your quota for the lake

1682
01:21:59,231 --> 01:22:01,050
is um 75 fish a

1683
01:22:01,051 --> 01:22:02,710
person you go out there with two or

1684
01:22:02,711 --> 01:22:04,550
three guys all right so

1685
01:22:04,551 --> 01:22:06,670
now you gotta get all them fish

1686
01:22:06,671 --> 01:22:10,090
or try to get all the fish and

1687
01:22:10,091 --> 01:22:11,610
you might not get them all or you

1688
01:22:11,611 --> 01:22:13,290
might be on a poopy lake like duck

1689
01:22:13,291 --> 01:22:14,630
remember i was telling you about

1690
01:22:14,631 --> 01:22:16,510
duck it was really bad so

1691
01:22:16,511 --> 01:22:17,630
you're sitting there and you think

1692
01:22:17,631 --> 01:22:18,790
you're gonna get all these fish and

1693
01:22:18,791 --> 01:22:20,670
Don't At least I know, I

1694
01:22:20,671 --> 01:22:22,690
go set up a net,

1695
01:22:22,691 --> 01:22:24,590
I'm guaranteed to at least get

1696
01:22:24,591 --> 01:22:26,591
20 or 30 fish in the morning.

1697
01:22:28,511 --> 01:22:30,430
So yeah, I just feel

1698
01:22:30,431 --> 01:22:32,490
like setting a net is

1699
01:22:32,491 --> 01:22:33,491
more safer.

1700
01:22:35,241 --> 01:22:37,540
I'm guaranteed fish,

1701
01:22:37,541 --> 01:22:38,840
that's what I'm trying to get at.

1702
01:22:42,611 --> 01:22:44,430
And again,

1703
01:22:44,431 --> 01:22:46,250
I can choose if I want to

1704
01:22:46,251 --> 01:22:48,150
camp on my net or if I

1705
01:22:48,151 --> 01:22:49,830
wanna go home.

1706
01:22:49,831 --> 01:22:51,680
I don't have to sit out there.

1707
01:22:51,681 --> 01:22:52,840
To tell all of the journals for

1708
01:22:52,841 --> 01:22:53,841
comments.

1709
01:22:54,381 --> 01:22:55,381
Did it?

1710
01:22:56,221 --> 01:22:57,221
This is a male.

1711
01:23:03,361 --> 01:23:05,440
But they're both very important.

1712
01:23:05,441 --> 01:23:07,800
I guess it just depends on

1713
01:23:07,801 --> 01:23:09,680
how much work you're willing to

1714
01:23:09,681 --> 01:23:12,040
put into getting

1715
01:23:12,041 --> 01:23:13,041
your harvest.

1716
01:23:16,011 --> 01:23:18,110
Me, I'm all about getting the most

1717
01:23:18,111 --> 01:23:19,311
for the least amount of work.

1718
01:23:23,361 --> 01:23:24,920
By Flambeau.

1719
01:23:24,921 --> 01:23:26,860
When I went out there,

1720
01:23:26,861 --> 01:23:28,562
the crew I was with, we did

1721
01:23:31,811 --> 01:23:33,750
What the heck was there, was Star,

1722
01:23:33,751 --> 01:23:35,570
we did Oxbow, we did

1723
01:23:35,571 --> 01:23:38,391
Squirrel, we get Tenderfoot,

1724
01:23:39,471 --> 01:23:40,471
we did...

1725
01:23:43,201 --> 01:23:44,201
Amber,

1726
01:23:45,641 --> 01:23:47,580
um, what other one did we

1727
01:23:47,581 --> 01:23:49,300
do? I swear we did another one.

1728
01:23:49,301 --> 01:23:50,260
Oh, Annabelle. The reason I'm

1729
01:23:50,261 --> 01:23:51,660
thinking of that is because we're

1730
01:23:51,661 --> 01:23:54,040
taking fish too, and

1731
01:23:54,041 --> 01:23:55,960
in Oxbow, there's a

1732
01:23:55,961 --> 01:23:57,840
tributary between Annabell

1733
01:23:57,841 --> 01:23:59,160
and Oxbow.

1734
01:23:59,161 --> 01:24:01,000
Annabella is kind of a hot lake.

1735
01:24:01,001 --> 01:24:02,840
It's not as hot as

1736
01:24:02,841 --> 01:24:04,540
this foot, but it has higher mercury

1737
01:24:04,541 --> 01:24:05,541
levels.

1738
01:24:08,581 --> 01:24:10,560
They never did tags in Oxbow,

1739
01:24:10,561 --> 01:24:12,720
we were just doing fin clips and

1740
01:24:12,721 --> 01:24:14,760
we were catching fish

1741
01:24:14,761 --> 01:24:15,761
that had tags

1742
01:24:16,781 --> 01:24:18,620
and I'm not sure

1743
01:24:18,621 --> 01:24:20,640
if Josh did got

1744
01:24:20,641 --> 01:24:22,680
a hold of Brandon to

1745
01:24:22,681 --> 01:24:25,040
see where that tag came from but

1746
01:24:25,041 --> 01:24:26,660
we're pretty sure it came from

1747
01:24:26,661 --> 01:24:28,480
Annabelle because it's

1748
01:24:28,481 --> 01:24:30,300
and we act when we

1749
01:24:30,301 --> 01:24:31,940
did that we actually caught, I can't

1750
01:24:31,941 --> 01:24:32,880
remember if it was three or four

1751
01:24:32,881 --> 01:24:35,210
fish and Butch was like

1752
01:24:35,211 --> 01:24:36,730
He was saying that's probably not

1753
01:24:36,731 --> 01:24:38,510
good either because it means that

1754
01:24:38,511 --> 01:24:40,030
them fish are trying to leave that

1755
01:24:40,031 --> 01:24:42,050
lake for a reason like

1756
01:24:42,051 --> 01:24:43,051
so it's

1757
01:24:46,921 --> 01:24:48,060
So that's what I was saying, Butch

1758
01:24:48,061 --> 01:24:49,940
has a lot of knowledge on

1759
01:24:49,941 --> 01:24:50,941
that stuff, like he's...

1760
01:24:52,801 --> 01:24:54,100
As I was telling him, I was like,

1761
01:24:54,101 --> 01:24:56,040
man, you're a real asset and

1762
01:24:56,041 --> 01:24:57,641
it's like you're gonna be leaving.

1763
01:25:00,311 --> 01:25:01,690
It was like, ah, there'll be other

1764
01:25:01,691 --> 01:25:02,691
people.

1765
01:25:06,161 --> 01:25:08,000
Oh, yeah, my

1766
01:25:08,001 --> 01:25:11,860
name's Marcus Krasco.

1767
01:25:11,861 --> 01:25:14,460
M-A-R-C-U-S-C

1768
01:25:14,461 --> 01:25:16,340
A-R R-A S-C

1769
01:25:16,341 --> 01:25:18,000
O.

1770
01:25:18,001 --> 01:25:20,360
I'm a lab aide and

1771
01:25:23,281 --> 01:25:24,281
just here to cut up fish.

1772
01:25:27,001 --> 01:25:29,340
Yeah, yeah, my title is

1773
01:25:29,341 --> 01:25:31,240
a lab aide,

1774
01:25:31,241 --> 01:25:33,080
because I'm aiding him in

1775
01:25:33,081 --> 01:25:33,990
his studies, so...

1776
01:25:33,991 --> 01:25:35,350
But you also do a lot of other

1777
01:25:35,351 --> 01:25:35,560
things.

1778
01:25:35,561 --> 01:25:37,180
Yeah, whatever whatever

1779
01:25:37,181 --> 01:25:39,200
Did you have to work with the tribe,

1780
01:25:39,201 --> 01:25:40,340
with that river, or was it with the

1781
01:25:40,341 --> 01:25:40,640
Indians?

1782
01:25:40,641 --> 01:25:42,280
It's a good for anything that I've

1783
01:25:42,281 --> 01:25:44,000
done like like that has been with

1784
01:25:44,001 --> 01:25:46,260
Glifwick they

1785
01:25:46,261 --> 01:25:47,300
Go for it.

1786
01:25:47,301 --> 01:25:49,260
Once you're like in here, they

1787
01:25:49,261 --> 01:25:51,220
they tend to want to use

1788
01:25:51,221 --> 01:25:53,140
the employees that

1789
01:25:53,141 --> 01:25:55,020
they got so it's like if something

1790
01:25:55,021 --> 01:25:56,341
comes up like like

1791
01:25:57,761 --> 01:25:59,960
Shocking stuff like that.

1792
01:25:59,961 --> 01:26:02,100
They'll they'll ask internally like

1793
01:26:02,101 --> 01:26:04,120
who's available for how

1794
01:26:04,121 --> 01:26:06,200
long? And that's where

1795
01:26:06,201 --> 01:26:08,080
I got connected with butch

1796
01:26:08,081 --> 01:26:09,440
in them on that.

1797
01:26:09,441 --> 01:26:11,290
So Because we had a

1798
01:26:11,291 --> 01:26:13,570
little bit of a lull where

1799
01:26:13,571 --> 01:26:14,870
we weren't getting fish.

1800
01:26:16,211 --> 01:26:18,150
So I did the fish that we

1801
01:26:18,151 --> 01:26:20,890
did for the lakes that we got,

1802
01:26:20,891 --> 01:26:23,310
and then I

1803
01:26:23,311 --> 01:26:25,130
got to go shocking for a

1804
01:26:25,131 --> 01:26:26,390
couple weeks.

1805
01:26:26,391 --> 01:26:28,210
That was a cool experience

1806
01:26:28,211 --> 01:26:29,350
and everything.

1807
01:26:29,351 --> 01:26:30,530
Like I said, learned a lot doing

1808
01:26:30,531 --> 01:26:31,531
that.

1809
01:26:32,241 --> 01:26:33,320
What do you do?

1810
01:26:33,321 --> 01:26:35,360
Yeah. And you're also a gold member

1811
01:26:35,361 --> 01:26:36,420
of that.

1812
01:26:36,421 --> 01:26:36,421
Yeah.

1813
01:26:36,422 --> 01:26:38,530
Yeah, I'm an enrolled member,

1814
01:26:38,531 --> 01:26:40,591
like I've lived here my whole life,

1815
01:26:42,151 --> 01:26:43,970
so like I was

1816
01:26:43,971 --> 01:26:45,430
trying to say it forward, doing

1817
01:26:45,431 --> 01:26:46,830
stuff like this really means a lot

1818
01:26:46,831 --> 01:26:47,831
to me,

1819
01:26:48,671 --> 01:26:50,510
it just makes me feel

1820
01:26:50,511 --> 01:26:53,270
like I'm making a difference,

1821
01:26:53,271 --> 01:26:54,790
like, I guess everybody kind of

1822
01:26:54,791 --> 01:26:56,650
wants to feel like

1823
01:26:56,651 --> 01:26:58,430
they're doing something positive,

1824
01:26:58,431 --> 01:27:00,410
you know, but yeah, doing

1825
01:27:00,411 --> 01:27:01,790
this type of work really makes me

1826
01:27:01,791 --> 01:27:03,370
like I'm doing a different, doing

1827
01:27:03,371 --> 01:27:04,670
something positive and

1828
01:27:06,511 --> 01:27:07,830
What's the difference between you

1829
01:27:07,831 --> 01:27:08,910
when you were younger and you guys

1830
01:27:08,911 --> 01:27:10,970
would harvest and then share with

1831
01:27:10,971 --> 01:27:12,930
the community versus the feeling now

1832
01:27:12,931 --> 01:27:14,210
when you're out of this?

1833
01:27:14,211 --> 01:27:16,150
Well, I still

1834
01:27:16,151 --> 01:27:17,230
do that.

1835
01:27:17,231 --> 01:27:19,810
If I'm hunting or

1836
01:27:19,811 --> 01:27:22,290
fishing, and I'm

1837
01:27:22,291 --> 01:27:24,190
getting a lot, I

1838
01:27:24,191 --> 01:27:26,610
was always taught you share.

1839
01:27:26,611 --> 01:27:28,331
You share with your family.

1840
01:27:33,491 --> 01:27:35,350
I guess being on this side

1841
01:27:35,351 --> 01:27:37,470
of it, I'm

1842
01:27:37,471 --> 01:27:39,490
more aware of the consumption

1843
01:27:39,491 --> 01:27:41,090
end of it. Because again, it was

1844
01:27:41,091 --> 01:27:43,690
just like, load up on fish.

1845
01:27:43,691 --> 01:27:45,630
Have all the fish you need,

1846
01:27:45,631 --> 01:27:47,450
you know. Like have enough fish that

1847
01:27:47,451 --> 01:27:49,790
you know it's gonna last you a year.

1848
01:27:49,791 --> 01:27:52,170
But now it's like,

1849
01:27:52,171 --> 01:27:54,590
I'm learning about

1850
01:27:54,591 --> 01:27:57,090
how much is

1851
01:27:57,091 --> 01:27:59,050
safe, like a safe

1852
01:27:59,051 --> 01:28:00,850
amount to consume.

1853
01:28:00,851 --> 01:28:03,710
How much is not a safe the amount.

1854
01:28:03,711 --> 01:28:05,590
Like I, again,

1855
01:28:05,591 --> 01:28:06,670
I used to think.

1856
01:28:06,671 --> 01:28:08,710
Eating fish twice a month was

1857
01:28:08,711 --> 01:28:10,550
like normal or even

1858
01:28:10,551 --> 01:28:12,490
more like maybe like four four times

1859
01:28:12,491 --> 01:28:14,350
a month was normal but it's

1860
01:28:14,351 --> 01:28:15,810
really not like you shouldn't be

1861
01:28:15,811 --> 01:28:17,790
doing that like um

1862
01:28:17,791 --> 01:28:19,830
you're and it's

1863
01:28:19,831 --> 01:28:21,150
just not good for your body it's not

1864
01:28:21,151 --> 01:28:22,930
good for you your family and

1865
01:28:22,931 --> 01:28:24,430
everything and i didn't know until

1866
01:28:24,431 --> 01:28:25,910
like talking with josh and

1867
01:28:25,911 --> 01:28:27,810
everything more and reading reading

1868
01:28:27,811 --> 01:28:29,770
about mercury and like

1869
01:28:29,771 --> 01:28:32,010
methyl mercury and stuff but

1870
01:28:32,011 --> 01:28:34,130
dog that doesn't just affect you

1871
01:28:34,131 --> 01:28:36,040
it affects your

1872
01:28:36,041 --> 01:28:38,340
descendants, like your

1873
01:28:38,341 --> 01:28:40,180
kids and like their kids

1874
01:28:40,181 --> 01:28:42,340
are going to be affected by

1875
01:28:42,341 --> 01:28:44,380
the mercury intake from

1876
01:28:44,381 --> 01:28:45,440
from you.

1877
01:28:45,441 --> 01:28:47,300
So it's yeah

1878
01:28:47,301 --> 01:28:49,440
so it's a it's it's all different

1879
01:28:49,441 --> 01:28:51,240
but I again I feel like it's

1880
01:28:51,241 --> 01:28:53,240
important to know it's an important

1881
01:28:53,241 --> 01:28:55,760
to be part of.

1882
01:28:55,761 --> 01:28:57,100
It's got to be a better feeling not

1883
01:28:57,101 --> 01:28:58,580
only to help and provide, but you're

1884
01:28:58,581 --> 01:28:59,510
giving knowledge with.

1885
01:28:59,511 --> 01:29:00,750
Oh yeah, exactly.

1886
01:29:00,751 --> 01:29:02,830
Like I was telling my

1887
01:29:02,831 --> 01:29:05,790
wife and my kids, I was like,

1888
01:29:05,791 --> 01:29:07,270
I used to think we can just sit here

1889
01:29:07,271 --> 01:29:08,510
and max on the fish because it's

1890
01:29:08,511 --> 01:29:09,890
like, we got it, you know?

1891
01:29:09,891 --> 01:29:11,850
But I always tried to give them

1892
01:29:11,851 --> 01:29:14,070
the smaller fish, you now?

1893
01:29:14,071 --> 01:29:16,370
But now it's, like, dang, we've

1894
01:29:16,371 --> 01:29:18,510
got a bunch of fish and we can't

1895
01:29:18,511 --> 01:29:19,570
eat it like we used to.

1896
01:29:20,831 --> 01:29:22,670
For this month,

1897
01:29:22,671 --> 01:29:24,510
we already had fish, so

1898
01:29:24,511 --> 01:29:26,690
now we've gotta wait.

1899
01:29:26,691 --> 01:29:28,530
But again, it's not, I might have

1900
01:29:28,531 --> 01:29:29,890
a lot of fish, but it's just not for

1901
01:29:29,891 --> 01:29:31,190
me.

1902
01:29:31,191 --> 01:29:32,610
Something might come up or somebody

1903
01:29:32,611 --> 01:29:34,110
might pass away.

1904
01:29:34,111 --> 01:29:35,390
There you go, there's some fish for

1905
01:29:35,391 --> 01:29:36,170
that.

1906
01:29:36,171 --> 01:29:38,450
Or somebody has like

1907
01:29:38,451 --> 01:29:40,470
a ghost feast or maybe it's

1908
01:29:40,471 --> 01:29:41,250
something like that.

1909
01:29:41,251 --> 01:29:42,910
Maybe it's somebody's birthday and

1910
01:29:42,911 --> 01:29:44,550
they really wanted a fish fry.

1911
01:29:44,551 --> 01:29:46,570
So here you go man, like have

1912
01:29:46,571 --> 01:29:47,571
at her.

1913
01:29:48,291 --> 01:29:50,470
So yeah, I just,

1914
01:29:50,471 --> 01:29:52,290
I was just

1915
01:29:52,291 --> 01:29:53,170
taught to share.

1916
01:29:53,171 --> 01:29:54,171
I was taught to like,

1917
01:29:55,861 --> 01:29:57,510
Don't be greedy.

1918
01:29:57,511 --> 01:29:59,790
So where does walleye break

1919
01:29:59,791 --> 01:30:01,210
in, and what's the importance of it

1920
01:30:01,211 --> 01:30:03,200
being walleye in here?

1921
01:30:03,201 --> 01:30:04,700
It's a walleye.

1922
01:30:04,701 --> 01:30:05,701
I don't know.

1923
01:30:07,901 --> 01:30:10,180
It's just very

1924
01:30:10,181 --> 01:30:11,840
important. It has been a very

1925
01:30:11,841 --> 01:30:13,720
important resource to

1926
01:30:13,721 --> 01:30:15,700
not just my family, but everybody's

1927
01:30:15,701 --> 01:30:17,320
family in the Indian community

1928
01:30:17,321 --> 01:30:18,860
forever.

1929
01:30:18,861 --> 01:30:20,220
It's been here.

1930
01:30:20,221 --> 01:30:22,340
It is just like sturgeon.

1931
01:30:22,341 --> 01:30:24,041
Sturgeon is very important too.

1932
01:30:25,141 --> 01:30:26,960
But the walleye is...

1933
01:30:27,971 --> 01:30:29,850
Everybody wants to eat walleye.

1934
01:30:29,851 --> 01:30:31,990
Nobody, like, because sturgeon's

1935
01:30:31,991 --> 01:30:33,930
like a bottom feeder,

1936
01:30:33,931 --> 01:30:36,250
not looked at as like primo,

1937
01:30:36,251 --> 01:30:37,910
you know, so.

1938
01:30:37,911 --> 01:30:39,690
But walleye, everybody wants to Eat

1939
01:30:39,691 --> 01:30:41,510
walleye it's

1940
01:30:41,511 --> 01:30:43,310
top notch, A1.

1941
01:30:43,311 --> 01:30:45,150
This guy, he never had a

1942
01:30:45,151 --> 01:30:46,370
walleye before. I was like, are you

1943
01:30:46,371 --> 01:30:47,150
kidding me?

1944
01:30:47,151 --> 01:30:49,470
I was, like dude, it'll

1945
01:30:49,471 --> 01:30:50,470
blow any other fish.

1946
01:30:50,471 --> 01:30:52,370
I don't care how you prepare

1947
01:30:52,371 --> 01:30:54,250
it, it smokes any

1948
01:30:54,251 --> 01:30:55,740
otherfish out of the water.

1949
01:30:55,741 --> 01:30:57,720
Like it could be salt water, fresh

1950
01:30:57,721 --> 01:30:59,720
water, like don't, it's just

1951
01:30:59,721 --> 01:31:01,580
the best fish, okay, and

1952
01:31:01,581 --> 01:31:03,580
it's just, it ranks high

1953
01:31:03,581 --> 01:31:05,020
because it's so good.

1954
01:31:05,021 --> 01:31:07,260
I don't know how to, it just

1955
01:31:07,261 --> 01:31:08,801
a very important commodity.

1956
01:31:09,981 --> 01:31:12,620
And it's because of

1957
01:31:12,621 --> 01:31:14,720
that being, it

1958
01:31:14,721 --> 01:31:15,860
is just hard to describe.

1959
01:31:15,861 --> 01:31:17,600
It's just, it's like deer.

1960
01:31:17,601 --> 01:31:19,340
Like deer is just something that's

1961
01:31:19,341 --> 01:31:20,980
just been part of our culture

1962
01:31:20,981 --> 01:31:21,860
forever.

1963
01:31:21,861 --> 01:31:23,740
Like, it's like, you just can't

1964
01:31:23,741 --> 01:31:24,801
take it away, like...

1965
01:31:26,411 --> 01:31:27,450
Yeah, I don't know.

1966
01:31:27,451 --> 01:31:28,530
It's just, it's hard to describe,

1967
01:31:28,531 --> 01:31:30,410
but it's just if I was

1968
01:31:30,411 --> 01:31:32,230
to put it, it just because taste

1969
01:31:32,231 --> 01:31:34,070
alone, you know, like just taste

1970
01:31:34,071 --> 01:31:36,010
wise, like you, you

1971
01:31:36,011 --> 01:31:37,850
can put it up against any fish out

1972
01:31:37,851 --> 01:31:39,890
there and it's going to

1973
01:31:39,891 --> 01:31:41,750
blow them off the off the market,

1974
01:31:41,751 --> 01:31:44,310
like off the map, like, just you

1975
01:31:44,311 --> 01:31:46,150
can you can fry it,

1976
01:31:46,151 --> 01:31:48,230
you could bake it, you could saute

1977
01:31:48,231 --> 01:31:49,770
it.

1978
01:31:49,771 --> 01:31:51,830
You can you could poach it.

1979
01:31:51,831 --> 01:31:53,690
Like you could do like anything you

1980
01:31:53,691 --> 01:31:55,820
want with it. And you can make that

1981
01:31:55,821 --> 01:31:57,560
taste incredible.

1982
01:31:57,561 --> 01:31:59,540
Like, you can even burn

1983
01:31:59,541 --> 01:32:01,400
the crap out of it,

1984
01:32:01,401 --> 01:32:03,260
and I'm telling you, like, we went

1985
01:32:03,261 --> 01:32:04,560
fishing one time.

1986
01:32:04,561 --> 01:32:06,660
Dawn, she's the

1987
01:32:06,661 --> 01:32:08,560
treaty specialist here, she

1988
01:32:08,561 --> 01:32:10,420
made fish tacos and burnt the crap

1989
01:32:10,421 --> 01:32:12,120
out of the meat, and it was still

1990
01:32:12,121 --> 01:32:13,260
bomb.

1991
01:32:13,261 --> 01:32:15,460
Like, I'm tellin' you, it's just

1992
01:32:15,461 --> 01:32:16,880
a great fish.

1993
01:32:16,881 --> 01:32:19,040
It's, yeah, like I

1994
01:32:19,041 --> 01:32:20,950
was tellin', like, tellin'm for it.

1995
01:32:20,951 --> 01:32:22,330
People don't worry about smelting

1996
01:32:22,331 --> 01:32:23,530
stuff in the springtime.

1997
01:32:23,531 --> 01:32:24,650
It's like, man, we're all about our

1998
01:32:24,651 --> 01:32:25,651
walleye.

1999
01:32:26,511 --> 01:32:27,511
Yeah.

2000
01:32:28,631 --> 01:32:30,470
Growing up, kids were always like,

2001
01:32:30,471 --> 01:32:31,730
oh, smelten season's right around

2002
01:32:31,731 --> 01:32:33,870
the corner. It's, like, smelt.

2003
01:32:33,871 --> 01:32:35,650
Man, we worry about walleye over

2004
01:32:35,651 --> 01:32:37,130
here, man.

2005
01:32:37,131 --> 01:32:39,270
I'll save some for you.

2006
01:32:39,271 --> 01:32:40,271
But yeah,

2007
01:32:42,091 --> 01:32:43,930
it's just something that has

2008
01:32:43,931 --> 01:32:45,610
just been part of our people.

2009
01:32:45,611 --> 01:32:47,370
Creator gave it to us to help

2010
01:32:47,371 --> 01:32:49,210
sustain us. So, it's

2011
01:32:49,211 --> 01:32:50,680
just, it...

2012
01:32:50,681 --> 01:32:52,740
Very important again just like deer

2013
01:32:52,741 --> 01:32:54,940
or anything else like

2014
01:32:54,941 --> 01:32:56,800
it was placed here for

2015
01:32:56,801 --> 01:32:58,980
us to sustain us so

2016
01:32:58,981 --> 01:33:01,540
we can make it and to carry on

2017
01:33:01,541 --> 01:33:03,980
the next generation you know so

2018
01:33:03,981 --> 01:33:06,720
again I want to be able to

2019
01:33:06,721 --> 01:33:08,580
guarantee my kids I can catch

2020
01:33:08,581 --> 01:33:10,540
them something you know like so

2021
01:33:10,541 --> 01:33:12,380
it's yeah it's

2022
01:33:12,381 --> 01:33:14,760
all about sustainability

2023
01:33:14,761 --> 01:33:16,800
I guess is like why it's

2024
01:33:16,801 --> 01:33:19,030
so important like you

2025
01:33:19,031 --> 01:33:21,030
We want to be able to provide the

2026
01:33:21,031 --> 01:33:24,090
next generation with this,

2027
01:33:24,091 --> 01:33:25,030
you know?

2028
01:33:25,031 --> 01:33:27,010
Like, I never thought

2029
01:33:27,011 --> 01:33:28,011
about it, but it's...

2030
01:33:30,651 --> 01:33:33,450
My ancestors really fought for

2031
01:33:33,451 --> 01:33:35,270
my ability to

2032
01:33:35,271 --> 01:33:37,670
come out here and go setting it and

2033
01:33:37,671 --> 01:33:40,450
harvest fish, so yeah,

2034
01:33:40,451 --> 01:33:41,691
it's just important.

2035
01:33:44,071 --> 01:33:45,990
I don't know what else to say, man.

2036
01:33:45,991 --> 01:33:47,890
It's just very, it's just

2037
01:33:47,891 --> 01:33:49,950
part of who we are.

2038
01:33:49,951 --> 01:33:52,130
Just, it was like anything else.

2039
01:33:52,131 --> 01:33:53,910
You got all, like the trees and

2040
01:33:53,911 --> 01:33:55,190
stuff too. It's part of just who we

2041
01:33:55,191 --> 01:33:57,690
were. Like, you got maple trees,

2042
01:33:57,691 --> 01:33:59,350
part of tapping trees, you know,

2043
01:33:59,351 --> 01:34:01,010
like we were making our syrup and

2044
01:34:01,011 --> 01:34:03,010
our sugar and stuff,

2045
01:34:03,011 --> 01:34:05,110
and just part who we as a people.

2046
01:34:05,111 --> 01:34:07,490
So that's why it's

2047
01:34:07,491 --> 01:34:09,770
important. It's a

2048
01:34:09,771 --> 01:34:11,670
resource that Creator put here

2049
01:34:11,671 --> 01:34:13,130
for us to sustain us.

2050
01:34:14,531 --> 01:34:17,010
And we've been taking advantage,

2051
01:34:17,011 --> 01:34:19,350
like, good advantage of it for

2052
01:34:19,351 --> 01:34:21,650
thousands of years and I

2053
01:34:21,651 --> 01:34:23,530
I would like to see it continue as

2054
01:34:23,531 --> 01:34:24,531
long as possible,

2055
01:34:25,491 --> 01:34:27,490
so doing stuff like this, doing work

2056
01:34:27,491 --> 01:34:29,470
like this really does make me feel

2057
01:34:29,471 --> 01:34:31,630
like I am

2058
01:34:31,631 --> 01:34:33,690
providing that, you know,

2059
01:34:33,691 --> 01:34:35,391
so yeah.

2060
01:34:36,591 --> 01:34:38,230
Sorry if I was just lambing on there

2061
01:34:38,231 --> 01:34:39,990
for a little bit, but it was just,

2062
01:34:39,991 --> 01:34:42,000
yeah, it was Just like, I...

2063
01:34:42,001 --> 01:34:43,700
They put all this stuff here for us

2064
01:34:43,701 --> 01:34:45,520
and we

2065
01:34:45,521 --> 01:34:47,660
got to take advantage of it and

2066
01:34:47,661 --> 01:34:49,500
treat it with respect and

2067
01:34:49,501 --> 01:34:51,000
do everything in a good way the

2068
01:34:51,001 --> 01:34:52,001
right way.

2069
01:34:54,091 --> 01:34:55,740
We will grab the mic back from you.

2070
01:34:55,741 --> 01:34:56,741
Yeah, I think so.

2071
01:34:58,311 --> 01:35:00,790
So walk me through the

2072
01:35:00,791 --> 01:35:02,910
science of what we have

2073
01:35:02,911 --> 01:35:05,250
here and what

2074
01:35:05,251 --> 01:35:06,440
step in the process we're at.

2075
01:35:06,441 --> 01:35:08,460
Okay, so we're at nearly the

2076
01:35:08,461 --> 01:35:09,380
beginning.

2077
01:35:09,381 --> 01:35:10,540
We're kind of at the midway point

2078
01:35:10,541 --> 01:35:11,660
here.

2079
01:35:11,661 --> 01:35:13,520
So typically what we do is

2080
01:35:13,521 --> 01:35:15,500
we have, usually

2081
01:35:15,501 --> 01:35:17,000
we have the spearers collect the

2082
01:35:17,001 --> 01:35:19,180
fish for us. We pay usually $10

2083
01:35:19,181 --> 01:35:20,860
a fish or so.

2084
01:35:20,861 --> 01:35:22,400
And then we try to get at least 12

2085
01:35:22,401 --> 01:35:24,400
per lake where we're aiming.

2086
01:35:24,401 --> 01:35:26,080
And so that doesn't always happen.

2087
01:35:26,081 --> 01:35:27,700
Sometimes we collect the fish

2088
01:35:27,701 --> 01:35:29,900
through population assessments.

2089
01:35:29,901 --> 01:35:31,720
And that's the way we got

2090
01:35:31,721 --> 01:35:34,060
these. And these came from Michigan.

2091
01:35:34,061 --> 01:35:35,940
From our sister agency,

2092
01:35:35,941 --> 01:35:36,941
KVSC.

2093
01:35:37,921 --> 01:35:40,240
And so we're assessing,

2094
01:35:40,241 --> 01:35:41,620
right now we're assessing the

2095
01:35:41,621 --> 01:35:43,540
mercury content of the fish,

2096
01:35:43,541 --> 01:35:45,740
as well as the PFOS content

2097
01:35:45,741 --> 01:35:46,680
of a fish.

2098
01:35:46,681 --> 01:35:48,380
And I say mercury, but it's actually

2099
01:35:48,381 --> 01:35:49,460
methylmercury.

2100
01:35:49,461 --> 01:35:50,740
There's a big difference there.

2101
01:35:50,741 --> 01:35:52,300
A lot of people, whenever you speak

2102
01:35:52,301 --> 01:35:54,120
on that, they think of the

2103
01:35:54,121 --> 01:35:55,940
inorganic metal, when really we're

2104
01:35:55,941 --> 01:35:57,720
dealing with the organic metal,

2105
01:35:57,721 --> 01:35:59,620
which is mercury that

2106
01:35:59,621 --> 01:36:01,660
has been methylated by

2107
01:36:01,661 --> 01:36:03,460
typically anaerobic bacteria.

2108
01:36:03,461 --> 01:36:05,360
In, say, a marshland

2109
01:36:05,361 --> 01:36:07,040
or a bog.

2110
01:36:07,041 --> 01:36:09,080
So the factors that

2111
01:36:09,081 --> 01:36:11,160
contribute to that are

2112
01:36:11,161 --> 01:36:13,880
your levels of sulfate,

2113
01:36:13,881 --> 01:36:15,720
your pH contributes, and

2114
01:36:15,721 --> 01:36:18,320
as well as the dissolved oxygen.

2115
01:36:18,321 --> 01:36:20,180
So as anaerobic bacteria work

2116
01:36:20,181 --> 01:36:22,020
on this stuff, a lake

2117
01:36:22,021 --> 01:36:23,680
with lower dissolved oxygen,

2118
01:36:24,981 --> 01:36:26,880
acidity, higher acidity and

2119
01:36:26,881 --> 01:36:28,900
then potentially higher sulfates,

2120
01:36:28,901 --> 01:36:30,640
you'll see an increase in methyl

2121
01:36:30,641 --> 01:36:32,840
mercury in those fish populations.

2122
01:36:32,841 --> 01:36:34,540
So it's important for you to study

2123
01:36:34,541 --> 01:36:36,480
different lakes because even if

2124
01:36:36,481 --> 01:36:37,500
they're next to each other, lakes

2125
01:36:37,501 --> 01:36:38,440
may be different, right?

2126
01:36:38,441 --> 01:36:40,380
Yes, that's exactly right, and we're

2127
01:36:40,381 --> 01:36:42,280
also monitoring trends over time.

2128
01:36:42,281 --> 01:36:43,720
So this program has been enacted

2129
01:36:43,721 --> 01:36:45,680
since, I want to say 1996 or

2130
01:36:45,681 --> 01:36:47,600
so, and so it's been going on

2131
01:36:47,601 --> 01:36:49,480
for nearly 30 years at this point.

2132
01:36:50,861 --> 01:36:52,680
What have you seen over that

2133
01:36:52,681 --> 01:36:53,820
time?

2134
01:36:53,821 --> 01:36:56,200
Actually we've seen the trends

2135
01:36:56,201 --> 01:36:57,281
are steady.

2136
01:36:58,521 --> 01:37:00,480
They follow what you would expect,

2137
01:37:00,481 --> 01:37:02,040
you know, larger fish by

2138
01:37:02,041 --> 01:37:03,041
accumulation.

2139
01:37:03,921 --> 01:37:05,800
They tend to have more

2140
01:37:05,801 --> 01:37:06,961
methylmercury content.

2141
01:37:08,441 --> 01:37:10,480
Right now the focus is actually

2142
01:37:10,481 --> 01:37:11,720
towards PFOS.

2143
01:37:11,721 --> 01:37:14,020
We're trying to detect hot

2144
01:37:14,021 --> 01:37:16,040
spots and so with

2145
01:37:16,041 --> 01:37:17,660
the fish you not only are you making

2146
01:37:17,661 --> 01:37:19,360
a food consumption advisory.

2147
01:37:20,581 --> 01:37:22,620
To let people know if the fish are

2148
01:37:22,621 --> 01:37:24,640
safe to eat within that lake,

2149
01:37:24,641 --> 01:37:26,520
but also we are at the

2150
01:37:26,521 --> 01:37:28,380
same time looking at

2151
01:37:28,381 --> 01:37:29,880
the quality of water, because if

2152
01:37:29,881 --> 01:37:31,440
your water is contaminated, your

2153
01:37:31,441 --> 01:37:32,921
fish will be contaminated as well.

2154
01:37:34,401 --> 01:37:36,840
What are the main concerns with

2155
01:37:36,841 --> 01:37:37,940
methylmercury?

2156
01:37:37,941 --> 01:37:40,000
Obviously the consumption is

2157
01:37:40,001 --> 01:37:40,580
the issue.

2158
01:37:40,581 --> 01:37:42,580
So your main concerns are it

2159
01:37:42,581 --> 01:37:44,780
is a neurotoxicant or

2160
01:37:44,781 --> 01:37:45,860
neurotoxin.

2161
01:37:48,001 --> 01:37:50,480
So with methylmercury, it is

2162
01:37:50,481 --> 01:37:54,400
very

2163
01:37:54,401 --> 01:37:56,280
toxic to

2164
01:37:56,281 --> 01:37:57,401
our special populations,

2165
01:37:58,901 --> 01:38:00,500
to women who may become pregnant,

2166
01:38:00,501 --> 01:38:02,720
women who are pregnant, children,

2167
01:38:02,721 --> 01:38:04,620
infants, newborns,

2168
01:38:04,621 --> 01:38:07,160
anything that

2169
01:38:07,161 --> 01:38:08,810
has a developing brain.

2170
01:38:08,811 --> 01:38:10,770
Is highly susceptible

2171
01:38:10,771 --> 01:38:12,430
to methylmercury toxicity.

2172
01:38:13,571 --> 01:38:15,610
And are people more aware of these?

2173
01:38:15,611 --> 01:38:16,590
I mean, I've obviously been doing
this

2174
01:38:16,591 --> 01:38:17,530
study a long time.

2175
01:38:17,531 --> 01:38:18,970
Are people becoming more aware that

2176
01:38:18,971 --> 01:38:20,450
they should take that serious?

2177
01:38:20,451 --> 01:38:23,130
Ah, more aware,

2178
01:38:23,131 --> 01:38:25,230
we need, all right,

2179
01:38:25,231 --> 01:38:26,690
so more aware.

2180
01:38:26,691 --> 01:38:28,550
They are aware, but as far

2181
01:38:28,551 --> 01:38:30,930
as like the intricate details of it,

2182
01:38:30,931 --> 01:38:32,770
I would say no, we are, we need to

2183
01:38:32,771 --> 01:38:33,950
do more on that part.

2184
01:38:33,951 --> 01:38:35,410
Like I said earlier, a lot of people

2185
01:38:35,411 --> 01:38:37,330
believe it's like the liquid metal

2186
01:38:37,331 --> 01:38:38,710
mercury, but no.

2187
01:38:38,711 --> 01:38:40,850
Here we're dealing with a organic

2188
01:38:40,851 --> 01:38:42,390
form of mercury.

2189
01:38:42,391 --> 01:38:44,250
In fact, a

2190
01:38:44,251 --> 01:38:45,251
lotta metals,

2191
01:38:46,151 --> 01:38:47,970
if a metal is safe, take

2192
01:38:47,971 --> 01:38:49,630
tin, for example.

2193
01:38:49,631 --> 01:38:51,510
If you stick a methyl group, a

2194
01:38:51,511 --> 01:38:53,410
couple methyl groups on tin,

2195
01:38:53,411 --> 01:38:55,450
that metal goes from a safe metal to

2196
01:38:55,451 --> 01:38:56,790
a quite toxic metal.

2197
01:38:58,391 --> 01:39:00,330
So organic metals are

2198
01:39:00,331 --> 01:39:01,930
typically something to always be

2199
01:39:01,931 --> 01:39:03,030
concerned of.

2200
01:39:03,031 --> 01:39:04,950
And mercury is found everywhere

2201
01:39:04,951 --> 01:39:06,070
in the universe, right?

2202
01:39:06,071 --> 01:39:07,271
Yeah, mercury is a natural...

2203
01:39:07,272 --> 01:39:09,300
Yeah, mercury is a natural occurring

2204
01:39:09,301 --> 01:39:10,940
compound.

2205
01:39:10,941 --> 01:39:12,260
When Marcus was speaking on earlier

2206
01:39:12,261 --> 01:39:14,260
how there is atmospheric deposition

2207
01:39:14,261 --> 01:39:15,600
of mercury, that's just something

2208
01:39:15,601 --> 01:39:17,700
that happens naturally from,

2209
01:39:17,701 --> 01:39:18,860
you know, combustion of fossil

2210
01:39:18,861 --> 01:39:20,760
fuels, combustion of, you now,

2211
01:39:20,761 --> 01:39:21,780
anything that's going on in

2212
01:39:21,781 --> 01:39:24,100
industry, goes up into the air,

2213
01:39:24,101 --> 01:39:25,780
and then it slowly will particulate

2214
01:39:25,781 --> 01:39:28,140
out, and they have

2215
01:39:28,141 --> 01:39:30,000
this model, people put

2216
01:39:30,001 --> 01:39:31,860
this down or math and

2217
01:39:31,861 --> 01:39:33,830
then And so

2218
01:39:33,831 --> 01:39:34,930
usually where there's a higher

2219
01:39:34,931 --> 01:39:36,970
concentration of industry, you can

2220
01:39:36,971 --> 01:39:39,550
see more mercury deposition.

2221
01:39:39,551 --> 01:39:41,870
In the past, whenever the

2222
01:39:41,871 --> 01:39:43,710
United States was in its

2223
01:39:43,711 --> 01:39:45,590
industrial age,

2224
01:39:45,591 --> 01:39:47,030
like we were making metal

2225
01:39:47,031 --> 01:39:49,510
manufacturing back here, that's

2226
01:39:49,511 --> 01:39:51,630
when the levels were higher.

2227
01:39:51,631 --> 01:39:53,530
They're looking at, what is that

2228
01:39:53,531 --> 01:39:55,490
bay called out of Duluth?

2229
01:39:55,491 --> 01:39:56,731
St. Louis?

2230
01:39:57,831 --> 01:39:59,130
River Estuary?

2231
01:39:59,131 --> 01:40:01,630
Yeah, so they're monitoring that.

2232
01:40:01,631 --> 01:40:02,770
Keeping track of those levels

2233
01:40:02,771 --> 01:40:04,210
because that's a lot of industry in

2234
01:40:04,211 --> 01:40:05,211
that area.

2235
01:40:08,211 --> 01:40:10,150
We saw one of the fish where we saw

2236
01:40:10,151 --> 01:40:11,970
a lot of the other fish popping out

2237
01:40:11,971 --> 01:40:13,690
of her. Just talk about that food

2238
01:40:13,691 --> 01:40:14,411
prop. OK.

2239
01:40:14,412 --> 01:40:16,650
Okay, so the bioaccumulation.

2240
01:40:16,651 --> 01:40:18,270
So, you know, once the mercury is

2241
01:40:18,271 --> 01:40:20,810
deposited into the soil, the water,

2242
01:40:20,811 --> 01:40:22,610
it then becomes part of the, you,

2243
01:40:22,611 --> 01:40:25,170
know, the natural cycle of things.

2244
01:40:25,171 --> 01:40:26,850
It is taken up, you know, you

2245
01:40:26,851 --> 01:40:28,510
imagine like a little bacterium.

2246
01:40:28,511 --> 01:40:30,850
They just suck that mercury up,

2247
01:40:30,851 --> 01:40:32,670
methylate it, send it out, you

2248
01:40:32,671 --> 01:40:34,470
now, and sometimes it can even

2249
01:40:34,471 --> 01:40:35,910
become double methylated.

2250
01:40:35,911 --> 01:40:37,890
So you have methylmercury

2251
01:40:37,891 --> 01:40:41,110
but typically it the

2252
01:40:41,111 --> 01:40:42,950
the equilibrium tends to fall on the

2253
01:40:42,951 --> 01:40:43,951
methyl mercury side.

2254
01:40:45,771 --> 01:40:47,210
So once it's deposited,

2255
01:40:48,271 --> 01:40:50,170
the anaerobic bacteria, bacteria get

2256
01:40:50,171 --> 01:40:51,470
a hold of it and then the peat and

2257
01:40:51,471 --> 01:40:53,290
the marsh and the bog and the

2258
01:40:53,291 --> 01:40:54,291
soil.

2259
01:40:56,491 --> 01:40:58,310
Slowly gets accumulated up

2260
01:40:58,311 --> 01:41:00,111
through, let's say, the Daphnia, the

2261
01:41:00,112 --> 01:41:02,110
little water fleas, the little water

2262
01:41:02,111 --> 01:41:04,050
bugs, and then they accumulate

2263
01:41:04,051 --> 01:41:05,190
it and then you have the little fish

2264
01:41:05,191 --> 01:41:06,990
come and feed on those, and the

2265
01:41:06,991 --> 01:41:08,810
little fishes get fed on slowly

2266
01:41:08,811 --> 01:41:10,650
but surely by the larger walleye and

2267
01:41:10,651 --> 01:41:12,490
then, you know, up the food chain it

2268
01:41:12,491 --> 01:41:13,910
goes. And so you have a

2269
01:41:13,911 --> 01:41:15,890
bioaccumulation effect,

2270
01:41:15,891 --> 01:41:18,110
a magnification of methylmercury

2271
01:41:18,111 --> 01:41:20,091
in, say, your larger, older fish.

2272
01:41:21,181 --> 01:41:22,440
And that's why there's always the

2273
01:41:22,441 --> 01:41:24,040
warnings about the size of the fish

2274
01:41:24,041 --> 01:41:25,230
and the size of the flay.

2275
01:41:25,231 --> 01:41:26,730
Exactly.

2276
01:41:26,731 --> 01:41:28,110
So that's where, yes, that's exactly

2277
01:41:28,111 --> 01:41:29,410
where the warnings come about

2278
01:41:29,411 --> 01:41:31,870
regarding the size of the fish and

2279
01:41:31,871 --> 01:41:32,890
the age.

2280
01:41:32,891 --> 01:41:34,530
So you typically want to stay below

2281
01:41:34,531 --> 01:41:36,530
20 inches on your fish

2282
01:41:36,531 --> 01:41:38,350
size for eating.

2283
01:41:38,351 --> 01:41:39,910
The sweet spot I would say is around

2284
01:41:39,911 --> 01:41:42,490
15 inches to 18 inches.

2285
01:41:42,491 --> 01:41:43,910
That's your sweet spot for eating

2286
01:41:43,911 --> 01:41:45,810
and safety. So what

2287
01:41:45,811 --> 01:41:46,811
do we know about

2288
01:41:49,451 --> 01:41:51,350
It's a developing field at the

2289
01:41:51,351 --> 01:41:53,350
moment. It is,

2290
01:41:53,351 --> 01:41:55,430
we

2291
01:41:55,431 --> 01:41:57,570
are learning it is a

2292
01:41:57,571 --> 01:41:59,310
compound that we are detecting in

2293
01:41:59,311 --> 01:42:01,350
extremely small quantities.

2294
01:42:01,351 --> 01:42:03,450
That's why we have the foil there to

2295
01:42:03,451 --> 01:42:06,070
help with any cross contamination.

2296
01:42:06,071 --> 01:42:08,050
What we know about PFOS is it's

2297
01:42:08,051 --> 01:42:10,310
another forever chemical.

2298
01:42:10,311 --> 01:42:12,330
Just like PCBs, PFOS will be

2299
01:42:12,331 --> 01:42:14,230
around until we're all dead and

2300
01:42:14,231 --> 01:42:15,571
gone. It'll be around forever.

2301
01:42:16,971 --> 01:42:18,291
And so we're monitoring,

2302
01:42:20,331 --> 01:42:22,090
all right, let's start where we

2303
01:42:22,091 --> 01:42:22,950
know.

2304
01:42:22,951 --> 01:42:24,790
So PFOS, where we expect

2305
01:42:24,791 --> 01:42:26,670
to find PFOS are runoff

2306
01:42:26,671 --> 01:42:29,810
areas around landfills,

2307
01:42:29,811 --> 01:42:31,710
airports, and firefighter

2308
01:42:31,711 --> 01:42:33,370
training areas.

2309
01:42:33,371 --> 01:42:35,330
Those are our three main hotspots,

2310
01:42:35,331 --> 01:42:36,730
so if you live anywhere around

2311
01:42:36,731 --> 01:42:37,731
there.

2312
01:42:39,721 --> 01:42:41,700
And not not say per se a modern

2313
01:42:41,701 --> 01:42:42,980
landfill because now they're being

2314
01:42:42,981 --> 01:42:44,900
designed to control

2315
01:42:44,901 --> 01:42:47,020
for that, but an old landfill that

2316
01:42:47,021 --> 01:42:49,020
doesn't have per se the liner,

2317
01:42:49,021 --> 01:42:50,360
you would have

2318
01:42:52,571 --> 01:42:54,710
runoff you see from the leachate

2319
01:42:54,711 --> 01:42:55,990
off of that landfill and that

2320
01:42:55,991 --> 01:42:57,310
leachates would lead into the

2321
01:42:57,311 --> 01:42:59,430
waterways and then you would see

2322
01:42:59,431 --> 01:43:01,410
from fish, hopefully

2323
01:43:01,411 --> 01:43:03,910
first, testing that area,

2324
01:43:03,911 --> 01:43:05,490
increase amounts of say PFOS.

2325
01:43:05,491 --> 01:43:07,690
So PFOS is a catch all umbrella term

2326
01:43:07,691 --> 01:43:10,990
for many perfluorocarbon

2327
01:43:10,991 --> 01:43:11,991
chains.

2328
01:43:12,931 --> 01:43:15,030
So the main culprits

2329
01:43:15,031 --> 01:43:17,670
we're looking at are PFOS, P-F-O-S

2330
01:43:17,671 --> 01:43:19,810
and PFAS, PF-FAS

2331
01:43:19,811 --> 01:43:21,871
for now, there are many others.

2332
01:43:23,041 --> 01:43:25,020
$15,000 or so to

2333
01:43:25,021 --> 01:43:26,021
be exact or more.

2334
01:43:28,351 --> 01:43:30,210
So, but are they, do we know

2335
01:43:30,211 --> 01:43:31,850
if that's equally distributed in

2336
01:43:31,851 --> 01:43:33,730
every element of the water

2337
01:43:33,731 --> 01:43:35,320
and the fish and the meat?

2338
01:43:35,321 --> 01:43:37,600
No, it's not equally distributed.

2339
01:43:39,401 --> 01:43:42,120
Like I said, you have your hotspots,

2340
01:43:42,121 --> 01:43:42,340
right?

2341
01:43:42,341 --> 01:43:44,360
But I guess if there's a runoff

2342
01:43:44,361 --> 01:43:46,320
area, is it all the fish that come

2343
01:43:46,321 --> 01:43:47,820
through there, or is that what we're

2344
01:43:47,821 --> 01:43:49,320
still trying to figure out, whether

2345
01:43:49,321 --> 01:43:50,920
it's in the filet, or if it's

2346
01:43:50,921 --> 01:43:50,950
constant?

2347
01:43:50,951 --> 01:43:52,910
Yeah, so we do have data

2348
01:43:52,911 --> 01:43:54,810
on that, that comes from Gavin, our

2349
01:43:54,811 --> 01:43:57,150
PFAS guy, he's in Madison.

2350
01:43:57,151 --> 01:43:59,050
So he has data that

2351
01:43:59,051 --> 01:44:00,810
states that the PFAS is concentrated

2352
01:44:00,811 --> 01:44:02,050
in the head.

2353
01:44:02,051 --> 01:44:04,050
And he thinks it's the wildlife

2354
01:44:04,051 --> 01:44:06,010
cheeks, but I disagree.

2355
01:44:06,011 --> 01:44:07,430
I think it's stuck in the brain,

2356
01:44:07,431 --> 01:44:09,250
because it's

2357
01:44:09,251 --> 01:44:10,910
a fatty molecule, but it's not.

2358
01:44:14,821 --> 01:44:16,940
It kind of

2359
01:44:16,941 --> 01:44:18,840
mimics cholesterol and you know

2360
01:44:18,841 --> 01:44:21,000
your brain is high on cholesterol or

2361
01:44:21,001 --> 01:44:22,840
it tries to it gets incorporated

2362
01:44:22,841 --> 01:44:23,841
there.

2363
01:44:25,121 --> 01:44:26,721
But that's where the science, we

2364
01:44:26,722 --> 01:44:27,130
need to know...

2365
01:44:27,131 --> 01:44:28,530
We need to know more.

2366
01:44:28,531 --> 01:44:30,410
So honestly, if I want to write

2367
01:44:30,411 --> 01:44:32,390
a grant, I would write a grant for

2368
01:44:32,391 --> 01:44:34,890
Marcus to collect brains and

2369
01:44:34,891 --> 01:44:36,730
we would sample those brains and

2370
01:44:36,731 --> 01:44:38,090
see if the PFOS is actually

2371
01:44:38,091 --> 01:44:39,910
concentrated. But first, we have to

2372
01:44:39,911 --> 01:44:41,490
find the hot spot to find where

2373
01:44:41,491 --> 01:44:43,590
these PFOS-concentrated fish are.

2374
01:44:43,591 --> 01:44:45,470
We do have a few lakes that we know

2375
01:44:45,471 --> 01:44:47,330
that are hits and so once

2376
01:44:47,331 --> 01:44:49,430
we have those, we can actually focus

2377
01:44:49,431 --> 01:44:51,230
on those areas and then focus on the

2378
01:44:51,231 --> 01:44:52,910
fish in that ecosystem to see how

2379
01:44:52,911 --> 01:44:55,440
that PFOS is actually

2380
01:44:55,441 --> 01:44:57,240
If it is accumulating, where is it

2381
01:44:57,241 --> 01:44:58,961
accumulating? Is it in tissues, is

2382
01:44:58,962 --> 01:45:00,520
it in certain organs, that sort of

2383
01:45:00,521 --> 01:45:01,521
thing.

2384
01:45:01,621 --> 01:45:03,560
It's possible that taking a filet

2385
01:45:03,561 --> 01:45:05,240
sample to look for pithos, you may

2386
01:45:05,241 --> 01:45:07,200
not find it even if it is present

2387
01:45:07,201 --> 01:45:10,000
in that water body, right?

2388
01:45:10,001 --> 01:45:12,080
Or is it simultaneously

2389
01:45:12,081 --> 01:45:13,780
testing the water to determine that

2390
01:45:13,781 --> 01:45:14,781
that's a hot spot?

2391
01:45:15,961 --> 01:45:17,020
Because right now you're only

2392
01:45:17,021 --> 01:45:17,581
testing the filet.

2393
01:45:17,582 --> 01:45:19,180
We're only testing the fish.

2394
01:45:19,181 --> 01:45:21,840
The USGS test the water,

2395
01:45:21,841 --> 01:45:23,980
other agencies handle water,

2396
01:45:23,981 --> 01:45:26,060
but we have within our GIS system,

2397
01:45:26,061 --> 01:45:27,900
we have it mapped out so that

2398
01:45:27,901 --> 01:45:29,980
our lakes are chosen

2399
01:45:29,981 --> 01:45:32,900
that are highly suspected

2400
01:45:32,901 --> 01:45:34,980
to be contaminated

2401
01:45:34,981 --> 01:45:35,981
with PFOS.

2402
01:45:37,311 --> 01:45:39,530
And is that a bigger

2403
01:45:39,531 --> 01:45:41,060
threat long-term than...

2404
01:45:41,061 --> 01:45:42,460
Mercury?

2405
01:45:42,461 --> 01:45:44,640
No, I mean that's

2406
01:45:44,641 --> 01:45:46,000
comparing apples and oranges.

2407
01:45:46,001 --> 01:45:47,840
They both pose their

2408
01:45:47,841 --> 01:45:49,080
own special threats.

2409
01:45:49,081 --> 01:45:50,560
I mean you still have PCBs in the

2410
01:45:50,561 --> 01:45:51,600
background here.

2411
01:45:51,601 --> 01:45:53,481
That's the OG forever chemical.

2412
01:45:55,461 --> 01:45:57,320
Polychlorinated biphenyls,

2413
01:45:57,321 --> 01:45:58,321
PCBs.

2414
01:45:59,201 --> 01:46:01,040
In terms of, like, the work

2415
01:46:01,041 --> 01:46:02,520
that you guys are doing here, is it

2416
01:46:02,521 --> 01:46:03,780
always going to be, like what's the

2417
01:46:03,781 --> 01:46:04,781
new thing to worry about?

2418
01:46:05,811 --> 01:46:08,750
Yeah, kind of, if

2419
01:46:08,751 --> 01:46:09,650
you want to be a little cynical

2420
01:46:09,651 --> 01:46:10,651
about it,

2421
01:46:11,511 --> 01:46:13,310
yeah, we got methylmercury, now we

2422
01:46:13,311 --> 01:46:14,570
have PFAS, soon it will be

2423
01:46:14,571 --> 01:46:16,230
microplastics, after that it will 6

2424
01:46:16,231 --> 01:46:17,891
PPD coming out of your tires.

2425
01:46:19,971 --> 01:46:21,950
I mean, this is

2426
01:46:21,951 --> 01:46:23,710
a sense of monitoring.

2427
01:46:23,711 --> 01:46:25,650
So we're not going to fix what's

2428
01:46:25,651 --> 01:46:27,230
happening, but we were able to

2429
01:46:27,231 --> 01:46:29,450
monitor what's happened.

2430
01:46:29,451 --> 01:46:31,410
So say this is Ruth Lake,

2431
01:46:31,411 --> 01:46:33,450
Ruth Lake right now may be clean,

2432
01:46:33,451 --> 01:46:35,380
but I come back five Years from now.

2433
01:46:35,381 --> 01:46:37,260
My fish are showing numbers that

2434
01:46:37,261 --> 01:46:39,120
weren't there, that

2435
01:46:39,121 --> 01:46:40,260
weren't there in the previous years

2436
01:46:40,261 --> 01:46:41,080
that we sampled.

2437
01:46:41,081 --> 01:46:42,680
So now we know that there's activity

2438
01:46:42,681 --> 01:46:44,860
going around that lake that

2439
01:46:44,861 --> 01:46:45,920
is running off into there.

2440
01:46:45,921 --> 01:46:48,100
And we need to alert whoever needs

2441
01:46:48,101 --> 01:46:51,320
to know so that they can

2442
01:46:51,321 --> 01:46:53,140
figure out how to control

2443
01:46:53,141 --> 01:46:54,580
that point source pollution.

2444
01:46:54,581 --> 01:46:56,560
So the reason for

2445
01:46:56,561 --> 01:46:58,620
choosing Walleye to do the testing,

2446
01:46:58,621 --> 01:47:00,620
is it just, it's an Apex Predator?

2447
01:47:00,621 --> 01:47:02,000
Apex predator.

2448
01:47:02,001 --> 01:47:03,960
Everyone wants it.

2449
01:47:03,961 --> 01:47:06,240
It's a high

2450
01:47:06,241 --> 01:47:07,460
commodity. It is a fish of the

2451
01:47:07,461 --> 01:47:08,461
people.

2452
01:47:10,751 --> 01:47:12,330
I mean, whenever I posted my

2453
01:47:12,331 --> 01:47:14,010
picture, my selfie picture, like

2454
01:47:14,011 --> 01:47:15,270
friends from Louisiana are like,

2455
01:47:15,271 --> 01:47:16,550
that's a walleye.

2456
01:47:16,551 --> 01:47:18,330
I was like, yeah, how'd you know?

2457
01:47:18,331 --> 01:47:19,450
But yeah, they know.

2458
01:47:19,451 --> 01:47:21,010
Everyone knows it's walleye, so.

2459
01:47:21,011 --> 01:47:22,450
I mean you got musky too.

2460
01:47:22,451 --> 01:47:23,570
People love musky, but nothing

2461
01:47:23,571 --> 01:47:25,030
compares to the walleye up here.

2462
01:47:25,031 --> 01:47:26,650
As far as the fishing, everyone

2463
01:47:26,651 --> 01:47:28,490
wants walleye Yeah, everyone want's

2464
01:47:28,491 --> 01:47:28,700
it.

2465
01:47:28,701 --> 01:47:30,460
So that's why you would test that

2466
01:47:30,461 --> 01:47:31,400
rather than something else.

2467
01:47:31,401 --> 01:47:33,000
I mean we also test other fish.

2468
01:47:33,001 --> 01:47:34,820
We test sturgeon, we test murk,

2469
01:47:34,821 --> 01:47:36,660
muskie, we test whitefish out of

2470
01:47:36,661 --> 01:47:38,260
Lake Superior, we test lake trout

2471
01:47:38,261 --> 01:47:39,240
out of lake Superior.

2472
01:47:39,241 --> 01:47:40,520
Right now we're focused on the

2473
01:47:40,521 --> 01:47:41,600
inland lakes. We do the Lake

2474
01:47:41,601 --> 01:47:43,180
Superior in the fall, we work on the

2475
01:47:43,181 --> 01:47:44,700
Inland Lakes in the spring.

2476
01:47:44,701 --> 01:47:46,620
So like we're in the summer now so

2477
01:47:46,621 --> 01:47:47,860
we're wrapping up the project.

2478
01:47:47,861 --> 01:47:49,100
All these samples are due Friday.

2479
01:47:50,351 --> 01:47:52,070
But it's probably hard to imagine

2480
01:47:52,071 --> 01:47:54,150
that people would ever not

2481
01:47:54,151 --> 01:47:55,790
heave walleyes, so you might as well

2482
01:47:55,791 --> 01:47:56,791
know where.

2483
01:47:57,691 --> 01:47:59,110
No one's going to stop.

2484
01:47:59,111 --> 01:48:00,310
No one's gonna stop. So the best

2485
01:48:00,311 --> 01:48:01,930
thing to do is educate.

2486
01:48:01,931 --> 01:48:03,490
So if I can if I could convince

2487
01:48:03,491 --> 01:48:05,330
people to put the big fish up on the

2488
01:48:05,331 --> 01:48:06,710
wall or leave it in the water so it

2489
01:48:06,711 --> 01:48:08,590
keeps responding the lakes

2490
01:48:08,591 --> 01:48:11,370
and he's

2491
01:48:11,371 --> 01:48:13,590
shaking his head.

2492
01:48:13,591 --> 01:48:15,410
You know, but

2493
01:48:17,011 --> 01:48:19,090
I mean you saw that big one we got

2494
01:48:19,091 --> 01:48:20,970
230 grams nearly

2495
01:48:20,971 --> 01:48:23,480
half a pound off of one filet so.

2496
01:48:23,481 --> 01:48:24,700
I'm telling you one thing, my uncle

2497
01:48:24,701 --> 01:48:26,540
always taught me this isn't

2498
01:48:26,541 --> 01:48:27,440
catch and release.

2499
01:48:27,441 --> 01:48:29,140
Yeah, it's not catch and release.

2500
01:48:29,141 --> 01:48:31,000
So the thing is we have to catch

2501
01:48:31,001 --> 01:48:32,200
and educate.

2502
01:48:32,201 --> 01:48:33,241
So catch, educate.

2503
01:48:34,441 --> 01:48:36,640
You can eat a contaminated fish,

2504
01:48:36,641 --> 01:48:38,380
but you're going to want to eat a

2505
01:48:38,381 --> 01:48:39,740
small piece of that filet.

2506
01:48:39,741 --> 01:48:41,540
And you're going to do a literature

2507
01:48:41,541 --> 01:48:42,900
search on anything that can

2508
01:48:42,901 --> 01:48:45,160
attenuate the toxicity of

2509
01:48:45,161 --> 01:48:46,580
methylmercury. And there are studies

2510
01:48:46,581 --> 01:48:48,500
out there that have data to

2511
01:48:48,501 --> 01:48:49,501
back that up.

2512
01:48:50,401 --> 01:48:52,060
I believe the top dog in

2513
01:48:52,061 --> 01:48:53,520
methylmercury studies right now is a

2514
01:48:53,521 --> 01:48:55,950
guy called Michael Aschner.

2515
01:48:55,951 --> 01:48:57,410
Could be even closer to retired, but

2516
01:48:57,411 --> 01:48:59,270
if you go into PubMed, search

2517
01:48:59,271 --> 01:49:00,990
Methylmercury, his name is almost on

2518
01:49:00,991 --> 01:49:01,991
every single publication.

2519
01:49:04,701 --> 01:49:05,900
Anything else that we should know

2520
01:49:05,901 --> 01:49:06,940
what is the next step?

2521
01:49:06,941 --> 01:49:08,420
So you guys are just taking the

2522
01:49:08,421 --> 01:49:09,640
samples here, and then you bring me

2523
01:49:09,641 --> 01:49:10,510
over to a lab, right?

2524
01:49:10,511 --> 01:49:12,430
Right, so typically the next

2525
01:49:12,431 --> 01:49:13,810
step, they would go in the freezer,

2526
01:49:13,811 --> 01:49:15,470
but since we're doing a mock trial

2527
01:49:15,471 --> 01:49:17,350
transport, I have four

2528
01:49:17,351 --> 01:49:19,250
samples, four lakes that

2529
01:49:19,251 --> 01:49:20,490
we're going to do like a little mock

2530
01:49:20,491 --> 01:49:21,550
trial run. I'm going to get

2531
01:49:21,551 --> 01:49:22,850
everything prepped, settled.

2532
01:49:22,851 --> 01:49:23,710
You already got those in the

2533
01:49:23,711 --> 01:49:25,170
freezer? No, they're right there.

2534
01:49:25,171 --> 01:49:26,370
So we had the PFOS.

2535
01:49:26,371 --> 01:49:27,830
The PFOS ones that you saw were the

2536
01:49:27,831 --> 01:49:29,650
ones wrapped in foil to help

2537
01:49:29,651 --> 01:49:30,490
with any kind of

2538
01:49:30,491 --> 01:49:31,730
cross-contamination.

2539
01:49:31,731 --> 01:49:32,890
The mercury ones were the one that

2540
01:49:32,891 --> 01:49:34,430
went into the bag without any foil.

2541
01:49:34,431 --> 01:49:36,250
We have the the otoliths for

2542
01:49:36,251 --> 01:49:38,250
aging We have two sets

2543
01:49:38,251 --> 01:49:39,690
this time, typically there's only

2544
01:49:39,691 --> 01:49:42,250
one set, our sister agency KBFC,

2545
01:49:42,251 --> 01:49:44,230
they're training one of their own

2546
01:49:44,231 --> 01:49:46,170
LTEs to how to age the

2547
01:49:46,171 --> 01:49:47,530
fish. So we get the age, we get

2548
01:49:47,531 --> 01:49:49,350
weight, we the length,

2549
01:49:49,351 --> 01:49:52,070
and we get tissue weight.

2550
01:49:52,071 --> 01:49:54,030
That's going to be, I believe that's

2551
01:49:54,031 --> 01:49:56,350
a wet analysis on that tissue.

2552
01:49:56,351 --> 01:49:57,750
And so all these things factor in

2553
01:49:57,751 --> 01:50:00,050
together to help us know the

2554
01:50:00,051 --> 01:50:01,970
proper mercury content of the

2555
01:50:01,971 --> 01:50:02,971
tissue as well.

2556
01:50:04,071 --> 01:50:06,170
And so the ODA lists,

2557
01:50:06,171 --> 01:50:08,010
one set will go here for

2558
01:50:08,011 --> 01:50:09,230
our aging purposes here, and that

2559
01:50:09,231 --> 01:50:10,170
will go into the database.

2560
01:50:10,171 --> 01:50:11,850
And then the other set will be going

2561
01:50:11,851 --> 01:50:13,730
to KBIC, and

2562
01:50:13,731 --> 01:50:15,570
there they're going to be doing a

2563
01:50:15,571 --> 01:50:17,710
quality assurance

2564
01:50:17,711 --> 01:50:18,811
or quality assessment.

2565
01:50:21,371 --> 01:50:22,491
I got this, this is actually a

2566
01:50:22,492 --> 01:50:23,630
secret, they're going to find out

2567
01:50:23,631 --> 01:50:25,890
after this airs, but I'm

2568
01:50:25,891 --> 01:50:27,230
checking their numbers, seeing that

2569
01:50:27,231 --> 01:50:28,810
they're aging right, and we're going

2570
01:50:28,811 --> 01:50:31,010
to compare the ages, so it's a lab

2571
01:50:31,011 --> 01:50:32,950
lab check. What does KVIC stand

2572
01:50:32,951 --> 01:50:34,630
for? I don't know.

2573
01:50:34,631 --> 01:50:35,751
Keweenaw Bay Indian Community.

2574
01:50:37,691 --> 01:50:38,811
Keweenawe Indian Community

2575
01:50:40,361 --> 01:50:42,280
Alright, can I get you to

2576
01:50:42,281 --> 01:50:43,640
say and spell your name, give your

2577
01:50:43,641 --> 01:50:44,890
title while we got you here?

2578
01:50:44,891 --> 01:50:46,151
Do I do the doctor?

2579
01:50:48,331 --> 01:50:49,771
All right, my name is Dr. Joshua

2580
01:50:49,772 --> 01:50:50,670
Salley.

2581
01:50:50,671 --> 01:50:54,270
Dr. Josh Salley, J-O-S-H-U-A-S

2582
01:50:54,271 --> 01:50:55,830
A-L-L E-Y.

2583
01:50:55,831 --> 01:50:57,210
I'm originally from Louisiana.

2584
01:50:57,211 --> 01:50:58,710
I got a job here at GlyphWake

2585
01:50:58,711 --> 01:51:00,690
beginning in March after

2586
01:51:00,691 --> 01:51:02,590
what, my second

2587
01:51:02,591 --> 01:51:03,591
midlife crisis.

2588
01:51:05,821 --> 01:51:07,150
And what's your title here?

2589
01:51:07,151 --> 01:51:08,970
My title here is the Environmental

2590
01:51:08,971 --> 01:51:10,040
Toxicologist.

2591
01:51:10,041 --> 01:51:11,321
Alright, very cool.

2592
01:51:13,441 --> 01:51:14,840
All right. Are you recording me?

2593
01:51:14,841 --> 01:51:16,120
All right, so we produce a physical

2594
01:51:16,121 --> 01:51:18,580
map, and on that map we have our,

2595
01:51:18,581 --> 01:51:21,580
it's like a section around

2596
01:51:21,581 --> 01:51:23,680
the, say

2597
01:51:23,681 --> 01:51:25,090
around the band.

2598
01:51:25,091 --> 01:51:26,970
Yeah, it's the lakes,

2599
01:51:26,971 --> 01:51:29,170
so there's a map printed for each

2600
01:51:29,171 --> 01:51:30,940
of our member triumphs.

2601
01:51:30,941 --> 01:51:33,560
Okay, and then...

2602
01:51:33,561 --> 01:51:35,420
The links that are on their

2603
01:51:35,421 --> 01:51:37,200
map are the links that that tribe

2604
01:51:37,201 --> 01:51:38,550
declares.

2605
01:51:38,551 --> 01:51:40,690
Right, so there's a map with

2606
01:51:40,691 --> 01:51:42,630
lakes for our member tribes,

2607
01:51:42,631 --> 01:51:45,230
and each look like, alright,

2608
01:51:45,231 --> 01:51:45,860
let me start over.

2609
01:51:45,861 --> 01:51:46,840
No, we got it.

2610
01:51:46,841 --> 01:51:47,841
No, okay.

2611
01:51:48,411 --> 01:51:50,030
Yeah, and then those lakes on the

2612
01:51:50,031 --> 01:51:51,910
map, they're color

2613
01:51:51,911 --> 01:51:53,050
graded.

2614
01:51:53,051 --> 01:51:53,890
And so I think I gave you some.

2615
01:51:53,891 --> 01:51:54,800
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2616
01:51:54,801 --> 01:51:55,700
Please.

2617
01:51:55,701 --> 01:51:57,760
So, yeah, red means don't

2618
01:51:57,761 --> 01:51:59,880
eat, blue means have

2619
01:51:59,881 --> 01:52:01,670
at it, kind of the old.

2620
01:52:01,671 --> 01:52:02,930
So is there more that you guys need

2621
01:52:02,931 --> 01:52:04,530
to do in the lab or is the next one

2622
01:52:04,531 --> 01:52:05,330
there's lux?

2623
01:52:05,331 --> 01:52:06,331
Oh wow.

2624
01:52:13,811 --> 01:52:16,290
Here you see this

2625
01:52:16,291 --> 01:52:17,830
whole cooler, what's inside here and

2626
01:52:17,831 --> 01:52:19,810
right here. This is, uh, this is

2627
01:52:19,811 --> 01:52:21,710
my spring's worth of PFAS

2628
01:52:21,711 --> 01:52:23,830
samples. This is

2629
01:52:23,831 --> 01:52:25,311
I want to say 34 Lake.

2630
01:52:28,861 --> 01:52:30,480
So, since we're about to transport

2631
01:52:30,481 --> 01:52:32,360
to the LSRL lab, I need to gather

2632
01:52:32,361 --> 01:52:33,560
up some ice.

2633
01:52:33,561 --> 01:52:35,100
So, I'll read and grab.

2634
01:52:35,101 --> 01:52:36,360
We'll use these green and white

2635
01:52:36,361 --> 01:52:37,361
things.

2636
01:52:41,091 --> 01:52:42,390
And that should be good.

2637
01:52:42,391 --> 01:52:43,391
And then, uh...

2638
01:52:45,631 --> 01:52:46,930
I'm gonna need another one.

2639
01:52:46,931 --> 01:52:48,150
Sure, I'll get out your way in one

2640
01:52:48,151 --> 01:52:49,151
second.