1 00:00:00,350 --> 00:00:02,549 So, how often 2 00:00:02,550 --> 00:00:04,749 do you talk to friends, 3 00:00:04,750 --> 00:00:06,589 either girlfriends or guy friends, 4 00:00:06,590 --> 00:00:07,869 and they talk about dating, they 5 00:00:07,870 --> 00:00:09,689 talk about fish picks, or like, oh 6 00:00:09,690 --> 00:00:10,749 my gosh, I'm dating a guy who 7 00:00:10,750 --> 00:00:12,369 fishes, will I ever see him? 8 00:00:12,370 --> 00:00:13,818 How does that come up? 9 00:00:13,819 --> 00:00:15,559 Uh with most of my girlfriends that 10 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,179 i talk to you know if they see a 11 00:00:17,180 --> 00:00:19,119 fish pick on the dating app they're 12 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,219 usually um they want to go away 13 00:00:21,220 --> 00:00:23,079 from that um 14 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:25,019 but it really depends on the 15 00:00:25,020 --> 00:00:27,099 person i think people that are 16 00:00:27,100 --> 00:00:28,999 more inclined to be 17 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,759 out in nature and fishing and stuff 18 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,258 maybe that's not their ideal thing 19 00:00:32,259 --> 00:00:34,099 but um if they do see one 20 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:35,799 they're like okay like i might check 21 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,339 it out really depends, on the, 22 00:00:37,340 --> 00:00:38,739 person also how they're holding the 23 00:00:38,740 --> 00:00:40,819 fish you know the fish picks they 24 00:00:40,820 --> 00:00:42,579 make a difference so 25 00:00:42,580 --> 00:00:44,139 What's the proper way? 26 00:00:44,140 --> 00:00:45,959 Uh, this, 27 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,479 this is the proper way. 28 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:49,299 If you're holding them up like this, 29 00:00:49,300 --> 00:00:50,679 I think that's a little, it's a 30 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,079 little weird, but maybe my personal, 31 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:53,879 personal thing. 32 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,439 Okay, and so for you personally, do 33 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,309 you have a fish pick? 34 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:57,869 Oh, I have some fish pics. 35 00:00:57,870 --> 00:00:58,889 Like this. 36 00:00:58,890 --> 00:01:00,339 The right way, the right way. 37 00:01:00,340 --> 00:01:01,819 Yep, we got some good ones. 38 00:01:01,820 --> 00:01:02,939 I mean, I can show them to you later 39 00:01:02,940 --> 00:01:03,940 if you want. 40 00:01:04,679 --> 00:01:07,199 So, what is the 41 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,219 fear, I guess, of a guy with 42 00:01:09,220 --> 00:01:10,220 a fish pick? 43 00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:12,999 There's a lot of women that I've 44 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,259 known who are like, oh, absolutely 45 00:01:14,260 --> 00:01:15,819 not. Is it because they're afraid 46 00:01:15,820 --> 00:01:16,679 that... 47 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,579 I mean, okay, I mean 48 00:01:18,580 --> 00:01:20,439 my boyfriend, he's a really big 49 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,719 fisherman and he has a lot of fish 50 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,539 picks. But I knew him 51 00:01:23,540 --> 00:01:24,899 before I really knew that he was 52 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:26,179 into that. 53 00:01:26,180 --> 00:01:27,999 And so when I saw 54 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,519 that I was like, oh my God, like 55 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,479 usually I think, you 56 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,439 know, like very like 57 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,040 redneck, hick type of thing. 58 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,899 But it really just depends on 59 00:01:37,900 --> 00:01:39,439 the person. 60 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,599 But that is the vibe that you 61 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,179 kind of get off of the fish bait. 62 00:01:43,180 --> 00:01:43,880 If you've seen the- 63 00:01:43,881 --> 00:01:44,619 if you'd seen the fish cook first. 64 00:01:44,620 --> 00:01:46,979 Yeah, yeah, 65 00:01:46,980 --> 00:01:48,919 I don't know but I mean 66 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,079 they're they're pretty good fish 67 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:50,799 though. I mean 68 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,659 is that another fact i mean oh yeah 69 00:01:52,660 --> 00:01:53,599 if you have to have a different 70 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,119 perspective that's true 71 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,199 I mean, if they're holding up a 72 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,099 bluegill, that's, you 73 00:01:58,100 --> 00:01:59,319 know, if it's like a seven pound 74 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,439 bluegilled, that's okay. 75 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,299 That's cool. But you know like if 76 00:02:02,300 --> 00:02:04,039 you got a huge musky, that'd be 77 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:04,879 great, but if you've got like a 78 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,439 little small one, yeah. 79 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,279 But I think it depends on the 80 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,259 fish, yeah, 81 00:02:11,260 --> 00:02:12,260 that'll do. 82 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,439 We've seen memes or things out 83 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,919 there that talk about, like, you 84 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:17,299 know, the only time their guy smiles 85 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:19,358 is when he's got a fish. 86 00:02:19,359 --> 00:02:21,319 I would have to probably 87 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,319 agree. 88 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,999 I think my boyfriend's biggest 89 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,439 smiles are probably when he's 90 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,440 holding a fish, 91 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,639 but you know, it depends on the guy, 92 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:32,559 but yeah, I'd say guys are pretty 93 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,079 much their happiest when they're out 94 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,779 alone fishing on a pond or 95 00:02:35,780 --> 00:02:36,780 something. 96 00:02:37,020 --> 00:02:38,559 Should that be a red flag or would 97 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,859 you advise women to give them more 98 00:02:39,860 --> 00:02:40,429 of a shot? 99 00:02:40,430 --> 00:02:42,329 I think give him more of a shot, 100 00:02:42,330 --> 00:02:44,189 you know, like maybe his real 101 00:02:44,190 --> 00:02:46,069 joy in life is really only fishing. 102 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:47,189 Sure, he probably loves you, 103 00:02:47,190 --> 00:02:49,009 probably, but 104 00:02:49,010 --> 00:02:50,369 fishing's great. The fish don't talk 105 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:52,009 back. The fish, they don't ask you 106 00:02:52,010 --> 00:02:53,089 to get them dinner. The fish are 107 00:02:53,090 --> 00:02:54,250 just there. So you know. 108 00:02:55,450 --> 00:02:57,669 And for you and your experiences, 109 00:02:57,670 --> 00:02:59,609 do you think that you came as 110 00:02:59,610 --> 00:03:01,689 a separate, like, extra bonus? 111 00:03:01,690 --> 00:03:02,819 Because you... I would hope so. 112 00:03:02,820 --> 00:03:05,419 So yeah, yeah, we 113 00:03:05,420 --> 00:03:06,839 met before I was really into fishing 114 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,279 and then I got right back into it. 115 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,559 We tend not to fish together because 116 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,960 it causes some uprising. 117 00:03:15,220 --> 00:03:17,219 But we're working on it, so 118 00:03:17,220 --> 00:03:18,379 he takes it a lot more seriously 119 00:03:18,380 --> 00:03:18,889 than I do. 120 00:03:18,890 --> 00:03:20,469 Is there a rivalry in the book 121 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:20,739 that... 122 00:03:20,740 --> 00:03:22,279 A little bit, yeah. 123 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,699 So what are the most common 124 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:25,199 frictions that exist in a 125 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,059 relationship when one person is 126 00:03:27,060 --> 00:03:28,609 very serious about fishing? 127 00:03:28,610 --> 00:03:30,649 Yeah um i think the 128 00:03:30,650 --> 00:03:32,529 way that we go about fishing 129 00:03:32,530 --> 00:03:34,749 like the lures that we use um 130 00:03:34,750 --> 00:03:36,809 live versus artificial bait uh 131 00:03:36,810 --> 00:03:38,369 especially being on the scientific 132 00:03:38,370 --> 00:03:40,209 side of things he 133 00:03:40,210 --> 00:03:42,249 tends to really just you know want 134 00:03:42,250 --> 00:03:43,429 the fish that he wants and i'm like 135 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:44,809 okay but i want to look at all the 136 00:03:44,810 --> 00:03:46,469 tiny ones and like the bigger ones 137 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:47,749 and i i want a look at the whole 138 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:49,569 ecosystem um so i'm more of kind of 139 00:03:49,570 --> 00:03:51,369 like la di da di da and you know 140 00:03:51,370 --> 00:03:53,029 he's kind of on his his own mission 141 00:03:53,030 --> 00:03:55,989 um so that kind of causes some 142 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:58,259 ruckus there, but yeah. 143 00:03:58,260 --> 00:04:00,659 For this story, we have seen 144 00:04:00,660 --> 00:04:01,979 couples that fish together. 145 00:04:01,980 --> 00:04:02,789 Yeah! 146 00:04:02,790 --> 00:04:04,369 Do you think that they naturally go 147 00:04:04,370 --> 00:04:06,169 together, or is it more, I mean, 148 00:04:06,170 --> 00:04:07,429 like, because they find it common 149 00:04:07,430 --> 00:04:08,489 interest, or like you said, because 150 00:04:08,490 --> 00:04:10,029 a lot of it is solo, or piece in 151 00:04:10,030 --> 00:04:11,689 It is, yeah, I think a lot of the 152 00:04:11,690 --> 00:04:13,429 time it's very much like a solo 153 00:04:13,430 --> 00:04:15,369 adventure, you know, 154 00:04:15,370 --> 00:04:16,349 props to the people who can do it 155 00:04:16,350 --> 00:04:17,509 together. I think it really just 156 00:04:17,510 --> 00:04:19,528 takes two people who really, really 157 00:04:19,529 --> 00:04:21,689 understand what each other want to 158 00:04:21,690 --> 00:04:23,689 go out there and to get to that 159 00:04:23,690 --> 00:04:25,229 point, you have to spend a lot time 160 00:04:25,230 --> 00:04:26,350 with that person fishing. 161 00:04:27,470 --> 00:04:29,349 Otherwise, like the patience, 162 00:04:29,350 --> 00:04:30,509 it just takes patience, especially 163 00:04:30,510 --> 00:04:31,649 if someone doesn't really know how 164 00:04:31,650 --> 00:04:33,629 to fish. It takes a lot patience. 165 00:04:33,630 --> 00:04:35,449 So I think, yeah, I 166 00:04:35,450 --> 00:04:36,369 could probably do a little bit 167 00:04:36,370 --> 00:04:37,370 better. 168 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:39,199 Of learning some of that stuff 169 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,539 because I'm not, I'm not, i wouldn't 170 00:04:40,540 --> 00:04:42,839 call myself a real angler. 171 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:44,259 I'm more of on the scientific side 172 00:04:44,260 --> 00:04:46,209 of things, but yeah. 173 00:04:46,210 --> 00:04:48,049 When you I think there's 174 00:04:48,050 --> 00:04:50,109 a stereotype when people see a woman 175 00:04:50,110 --> 00:04:50,909 fishing with a man 176 00:04:50,910 --> 00:04:51,819 Yeah! 177 00:04:51,820 --> 00:04:53,139 She just wants to be with them. 178 00:04:53,140 --> 00:04:54,419 She doesn't even know what she's 179 00:04:54,420 --> 00:04:56,359 doing. But there's probably a lot 180 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,169 of cases where... 181 00:04:57,170 --> 00:04:59,269 Oh yeah, there's plenty 182 00:04:59,270 --> 00:05:01,369 of people that are much better 183 00:05:01,370 --> 00:05:02,749 than men at fishing. 184 00:05:04,590 --> 00:05:06,449 You know, I haven't met 185 00:05:06,450 --> 00:05:07,409 a whole lot of them. 186 00:05:07,410 --> 00:05:08,629 I think if you go out west there's a 187 00:05:08,630 --> 00:05:09,809 whole lot more of fly fishing and 188 00:05:09,810 --> 00:05:11,349 all that. 189 00:05:11,350 --> 00:05:13,549 But, you know, it's, 190 00:05:13,550 --> 00:05:15,409 I'm hoping it's an up-and-coming 191 00:05:15,410 --> 00:05:17,749 thing that more women take on to it. 192 00:05:17,750 --> 00:05:19,109 It might make those fish pictures 193 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:21,129 more, like, nice. 194 00:05:21,130 --> 00:05:22,289 They're like, you, know, like people 195 00:05:22,290 --> 00:05:23,529 want it more. 196 00:05:23,530 --> 00:05:25,549 But yeah, I don't know, 197 00:05:25,550 --> 00:05:26,649 don't see a whole lot of women 198 00:05:26,650 --> 00:05:28,189 fishing out there anymore. 199 00:05:28,190 --> 00:05:29,809 I guess it's never really been that 200 00:05:29,810 --> 00:05:31,349 way, but hopefully soon. 201 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:31,779 I don't know. 202 00:05:31,780 --> 00:05:33,759 All right, yeah, thank you so much. 203 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,499 Yeah, just so I have it correct for 204 00:05:35,500 --> 00:05:37,429 this section say and spell your name 205 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:39,569 yeah yeah yeah uh kelsey turen 206 00:05:39,570 --> 00:05:42,489 k-e-l s-e y t-h-u-r-i-n 207 00:05:42,490 --> 00:05:44,329 and what would your title be? 208 00:05:44,330 --> 00:05:46,309 An LTE limited term 209 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:47,549 employee, okay 210 00:05:47,550 --> 00:05:49,469 And you are currently a grad student 211 00:05:49,470 --> 00:05:50,409 or are you? 212 00:05:50,410 --> 00:05:52,649 Yeah, current grad student at 213 00:05:52,650 --> 00:05:53,669 UW-Green Bay. 214 00:05:53,670 --> 00:05:54,729 Okay, cool. 215 00:05:54,730 --> 00:05:55,179 Sweet. 216 00:05:55,180 --> 00:05:56,799 Surprised? All right, yeah, I'm 217 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,419 surprised. All right. 218 00:05:59,420 --> 00:06:01,679 So give me your perspective on 219 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,579 fishpicks, dating, fishing and 220 00:06:03,580 --> 00:06:04,399 relationships. 221 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,099 What's the advice you give? 222 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:07,488 What are the questions? 223 00:06:07,489 --> 00:06:09,969 Right yeah so 224 00:06:09,970 --> 00:06:11,969 fish picks are like big thing 225 00:06:11,970 --> 00:06:13,689 in our demographic for sure. 226 00:06:15,030 --> 00:06:18,029 Um I feel like 227 00:06:18,030 --> 00:06:20,829 oh jeez sorry cameras 228 00:06:20,830 --> 00:06:21,969 crazy for me. 229 00:06:21,970 --> 00:06:23,869 All right let me let me think about 230 00:06:23,870 --> 00:06:24,870 that. 231 00:06:27,179 --> 00:06:30,039 So, you're in your mid-20s, 232 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:30,919 approximately? Yeah, I just 233 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,639 graduated. Okay, so you've been 234 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,339 through the dating cycle. 235 00:06:34,340 --> 00:06:36,299 So you've probably seen, you know, 236 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:38,319 online dating sites and so 237 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,219 how often are 238 00:06:40,220 --> 00:06:41,919 most of the pictures of people out 239 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:42,920 there holding? 240 00:06:43,750 --> 00:06:45,449 Yeah, great question. 241 00:06:45,450 --> 00:06:47,789 So I feel like you see it a lot, 242 00:06:47,790 --> 00:06:49,789 especially in the Northwoods because 243 00:06:49,790 --> 00:06:51,109 that's kind of like what a lot of 244 00:06:51,110 --> 00:06:52,409 guys do up here. 245 00:06:52,410 --> 00:06:54,389 And so I went to school in 246 00:06:54,390 --> 00:06:56,069 Ashland, right, so it's right on 247 00:06:56,070 --> 00:06:56,909 Lake Superior. 248 00:06:56,910 --> 00:06:57,910 It's all about fishing. 249 00:07:01,820 --> 00:07:03,539 Is it, you talked about being in the 250 00:07:03,540 --> 00:07:05,379 Northwoods, is it, so, 251 00:07:05,380 --> 00:07:06,919 I guess for people out there, do 252 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,119 they have to be open to that, 253 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,859 or is it if they're from maybe 254 00:07:10,860 --> 00:07:12,859 Madison or farther south, 255 00:07:12,860 --> 00:07:14,799 where they have it more picky, are 256 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,899 women up here a little more open 257 00:07:16,900 --> 00:07:18,219 to them? That's just what you're 258 00:07:18,220 --> 00:07:18,809 gonna get. 259 00:07:18,810 --> 00:07:20,649 I feel like, yeah, it's 260 00:07:20,650 --> 00:07:22,489 definitely what people do 261 00:07:22,490 --> 00:07:23,329 up here. 262 00:07:23,330 --> 00:07:25,309 Jeez, man, I am so bad 263 00:07:25,310 --> 00:07:27,029 at this. Maybe you don't want me on 264 00:07:27,030 --> 00:07:28,249 here. No, you're fine. Just don't 265 00:07:28,250 --> 00:07:29,449 overthink it. Just go with your 266 00:07:29,450 --> 00:07:30,450 first thing. I am, yeah. 267 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,099 So I guess for you, do you have 268 00:07:34,100 --> 00:07:34,979 a fish pick? 269 00:07:34,980 --> 00:07:35,179 Do you? 270 00:07:35,180 --> 00:07:36,819 Oh yeah, for sure. 271 00:07:36,820 --> 00:07:38,859 I love fishing and so it's 272 00:07:38,860 --> 00:07:39,860 like... 273 00:07:42,479 --> 00:07:43,879 What kind of questions do you get 274 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:44,880 from some of your friends? 275 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,099 What are the things they ask you, 276 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:48,418 like if they... 277 00:07:48,419 --> 00:07:50,259 Oh shoot okay 278 00:07:50,260 --> 00:07:52,579 here's my thing i feel like 279 00:07:52,580 --> 00:07:54,479 i'm pro fish pick 280 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,299 you know like so i'm 281 00:07:56,300 --> 00:07:58,259 not the like stereotype maybe you're 282 00:07:58,260 --> 00:07:59,120 looking for no 283 00:07:59,121 --> 00:08:00,589 No, we're looking for everything. 284 00:08:00,590 --> 00:08:01,709 Everything, okay. 285 00:08:01,710 --> 00:08:03,429 No, you have a certain background 286 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:04,969 that obviously is going to make you 287 00:08:04,970 --> 00:08:06,789 predispose to one thought, 288 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:07,790 but that's yours. 289 00:08:08,850 --> 00:08:10,629 All right, so I'm all about the fish 290 00:08:10,630 --> 00:08:12,469 pick, kind of what, 291 00:08:12,470 --> 00:08:13,589 can I reference her? 292 00:08:13,590 --> 00:08:14,429 Yeah. 293 00:08:14,430 --> 00:08:15,949 Yeah, sort of like what Kelsey was 294 00:08:15,950 --> 00:08:17,629 saying, you know, it's all about how 295 00:08:17,630 --> 00:08:19,049 they're holding the fish. 296 00:08:19,050 --> 00:08:21,149 Yeah, it shows a lot how like 297 00:08:21,150 --> 00:08:23,069 natural you are with it and 298 00:08:23,070 --> 00:08:25,049 if it's like forced or what's 299 00:08:25,050 --> 00:08:26,050 going on, right. 300 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,419 Are you one where that's 301 00:08:29,420 --> 00:08:30,859 the most natural smile you're going 302 00:08:30,860 --> 00:08:31,259 to see? 303 00:08:31,260 --> 00:08:33,119 Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it's 304 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,178 just like, fish are so 305 00:08:35,179 --> 00:08:37,259 cool, right, like they 306 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:39,079 swim, like underwater 307 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,178 they're breathing, they're so old, 308 00:08:41,179 --> 00:08:43,219 you know, it's like, 309 00:08:43,220 --> 00:08:44,220 they are so cool. 310 00:08:45,030 --> 00:08:46,989 So should women worry about, 311 00:08:46,990 --> 00:08:48,949 like, will he love me as much as the 312 00:08:48,950 --> 00:08:49,950 fish? 313 00:08:54,870 --> 00:08:56,349 So it depends on what you're looking 314 00:08:56,350 --> 00:08:58,509 for in a relationship, right? 315 00:08:58,510 --> 00:09:00,529 I like look for passion. 316 00:09:00,530 --> 00:09:02,469 So if someone's passionate 317 00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:04,489 about fishing, then that's 318 00:09:04,490 --> 00:09:06,729 the person for me, right. 319 00:09:06,730 --> 00:09:08,669 It's all perspective 320 00:09:08,670 --> 00:09:09,769 in that sense. 321 00:09:09,770 --> 00:09:11,629 I want someone who's going to go 322 00:09:11,630 --> 00:09:13,269 out. 323 00:09:13,270 --> 00:09:15,149 And even if it's raining, 324 00:09:15,150 --> 00:09:16,409 they still want to fish. 325 00:09:16,410 --> 00:09:17,709 That's cool. 326 00:09:17,710 --> 00:09:18,710 Oh, shoot. 327 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:21,739 But I guess all 328 00:09:21,740 --> 00:09:23,719 the women that are into it, that's 329 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,429 just their loss, right? 330 00:09:25,430 --> 00:09:27,469 Totally, it's their loss, you know, 331 00:09:27,470 --> 00:09:28,470 like, 332 00:09:29,770 --> 00:09:30,929 but it's good for me. 333 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:33,649 Can I get you to say and spell your 334 00:09:33,650 --> 00:09:34,449 name, just so I have it clear? 335 00:09:34,450 --> 00:09:36,529 Yeah, yeah, it is Coco, 336 00:09:36,530 --> 00:09:38,649 C-O-C-O, Eberhard, 337 00:09:38,650 --> 00:09:40,969 E-B-E-R-H-A-R 338 00:09:40,970 --> 00:09:41,509 D. 339 00:09:41,510 --> 00:09:43,329 And what is your title here? 340 00:09:43,330 --> 00:09:44,389 Fisheries technician. 341 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:47,679 Like, there'd be times I'd be out 342 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:49,399 working and there's no people within 343 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,239 20 miles of you and you're just 344 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,119 like in the middle of nowhere. 345 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,699 Like, you can't even find something 346 00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:56,359 like that here where you're that 347 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,589 remote. 348 00:09:57,590 --> 00:09:59,029 Yeah, not by that much. 349 00:09:59,030 --> 00:09:59,869 You're good. 350 00:09:59,870 --> 00:10:03,269 All right, so what's 351 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:04,609 your thought on the fish pick? 352 00:10:04,610 --> 00:10:06,210 Because I'm sure as a guy, you 353 00:10:06,211 --> 00:10:07,669 probably have a lot of guy friends, 354 00:10:07,670 --> 00:10:09,109 do they ever ask you, it's like, 355 00:10:09,110 --> 00:10:10,009 hey, does this look like a good 356 00:10:10,010 --> 00:10:11,269 picture? What should I put on my 357 00:10:11,270 --> 00:10:12,769 dating profile? 358 00:10:12,770 --> 00:10:14,409 I'm for it, I don't know, I have a 359 00:10:14,410 --> 00:10:16,009 lot of fish pictures, that's like 360 00:10:16,010 --> 00:10:17,869 most of my camera roll, as 361 00:10:17,870 --> 00:10:19,489 I love to fish, I work with fish, I 362 00:10:19,490 --> 00:10:20,729 take a lot them. 363 00:10:20,730 --> 00:10:22,269 So I'm four it, so I know some 364 00:10:22,270 --> 00:10:23,889 people aren't, like a lot women, or 365 00:10:23,890 --> 00:10:26,049 maybe they don't wanna see that. 366 00:10:26,050 --> 00:10:28,129 For me, like I 367 00:10:28,130 --> 00:10:29,649 would love to see, like pictures of 368 00:10:29,650 --> 00:10:31,309 women with fish. Like I wanna be 369 00:10:31,310 --> 00:10:32,489 dating somebody, marrying somebody 370 00:10:32,490 --> 00:10:33,689 who loves to do the things that I 371 00:10:33,690 --> 00:10:34,969 care about too. 372 00:10:34,970 --> 00:10:36,709 So I am all for it. 373 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:40,289 If there's a woman who 374 00:10:40,290 --> 00:10:42,209 purposely won't swipe the 375 00:10:42,210 --> 00:10:43,689 correct way on a guy with a 376 00:10:43,690 --> 00:10:45,629 fishpick, is that 377 00:10:45,630 --> 00:10:47,009 kind of clearing the field, making 378 00:10:47,010 --> 00:10:49,029 it easier if she's that opposed 379 00:10:49,030 --> 00:10:50,849 to it, or should they be 380 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:51,850 more open? 381 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:53,629 I think that it's important that 382 00:10:53,630 --> 00:10:55,649 people are true to who they kind 383 00:10:55,650 --> 00:10:56,689 of are and the things that they care 384 00:10:56,690 --> 00:10:58,149 about. Like for me, if that's 385 00:10:58,150 --> 00:11:00,089 something that they're not 386 00:11:00,090 --> 00:11:01,749 for, it might not be the right fit 387 00:11:01,750 --> 00:11:02,769 for myself personally, but that 388 00:11:02,770 --> 00:11:03,789 doesn't mean it's an inherently bad 389 00:11:03,790 --> 00:11:05,449 thing because everyone has different 390 00:11:05,450 --> 00:11:07,749 preferences and not everyone cares 391 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:09,449 about the same things that I do. 392 00:11:09,450 --> 00:11:10,869 And in an area like this, you might 393 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:12,709 not see that as frequently because 394 00:11:12,710 --> 00:11:14,409 everybody up here loves to fish and 395 00:11:14,410 --> 00:11:15,549 that's part of why you live up 396 00:11:15,550 --> 00:11:18,369 somewhere like Northern Wisconsin. 397 00:11:18,370 --> 00:11:19,449 But other places in the world, 398 00:11:19,450 --> 00:11:20,729 people care about different things 399 00:11:20,730 --> 00:11:21,829 and have different passions and 400 00:11:21,830 --> 00:11:22,789 hobbies. 401 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:24,069 I think it kind of just depends on 402 00:11:24,070 --> 00:11:24,969 the person. 403 00:11:24,970 --> 00:11:26,509 What is the advice you would give 404 00:11:26,510 --> 00:11:28,409 people who are entering into 405 00:11:28,410 --> 00:11:29,509 a relationship with someone who 406 00:11:29,510 --> 00:11:31,449 loves to fish and if they're not as 407 00:11:31,450 --> 00:11:32,909 much of a fisher person and not as 408 00:11:32,910 --> 00:11:34,809 much of an angler because you know 409 00:11:34,810 --> 00:11:36,069 there's that whole thing of like 410 00:11:36,070 --> 00:11:37,929 well where will their first love 411 00:11:37,930 --> 00:11:39,149 be? 412 00:11:39,150 --> 00:11:41,049 Yeah, I think there's a balance for 413 00:11:41,050 --> 00:11:41,909 sure. 414 00:11:41,910 --> 00:11:43,589 Like you can have a hobby that you 415 00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:44,889 care about very much and do it 416 00:11:44,890 --> 00:11:46,969 frequently and still make time 417 00:11:46,970 --> 00:11:48,829 for the other person that's in your 418 00:11:48,830 --> 00:11:50,029 life. And you can find a way to 419 00:11:50,030 --> 00:11:51,729 balance that. Like they may not like 420 00:11:51,730 --> 00:11:53,329 fishing. Like my mom, for example, 421 00:11:53,330 --> 00:11:55,389 my mom does not fish, my dad does. 422 00:11:55,390 --> 00:11:56,649 But whenever my dad goes out, my mom 423 00:11:56,650 --> 00:11:57,849 loves to come out just to be on the 424 00:11:57,850 --> 00:11:59,509 boat. And so there's ways to balance 425 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:01,529 that sometimes that might mean 426 00:12:01,530 --> 00:12:03,189 that you're picking maybe her hobby 427 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:04,329 over yours, right? 428 00:12:04,330 --> 00:12:05,689 And balancing it that way or, all 429 00:12:05,690 --> 00:12:06,709 right, I'm not gonna go fishing today 430 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:07,589 because we're gonna do the thing 431 00:12:07,590 --> 00:12:08,729 that you like to do. 432 00:12:08,730 --> 00:12:10,229 And I think if you have that balance 433 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:11,409 and you have that honest 434 00:12:11,410 --> 00:12:13,389 communication where you're 435 00:12:13,390 --> 00:12:15,329 able to be doing 436 00:12:15,330 --> 00:12:16,989 the things that both people like to 437 00:12:16,990 --> 00:12:19,109 do, I think it can work just fine. 438 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:20,929 But how does fishing work as a 439 00:12:20,930 --> 00:12:22,449 couple's thing? Like, is it possible 440 00:12:22,450 --> 00:12:24,429 if someone's really focused on 441 00:12:24,430 --> 00:12:25,489 fishing and then they bring a 442 00:12:25,490 --> 00:12:27,429 partner along that, like, 443 00:12:27,430 --> 00:12:28,930 if they don't match the energy, I 444 00:12:28,931 --> 00:12:30,039 mean, can that work? 445 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,239 I think so. 446 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,059 I think you can still, 447 00:12:33,060 --> 00:12:34,499 I've been in relationships where I 448 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:35,599 still fish a lot and they maybe 449 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,419 haven't, and it can still work 450 00:12:37,420 --> 00:12:38,420 just fine. 451 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,479 It might not mean that you're doing 452 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,419 it as much as you did before, 453 00:12:42,420 --> 00:12:43,619 but if you truly care about them 454 00:12:43,620 --> 00:12:44,899 that much, you can work through 455 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:46,919 that, I think. And sometimes, 456 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,479 maybe they just haven't gotten the 457 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,439 opportunity to fish yet. 458 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,419 You bring them along and maybe they 459 00:12:50,420 --> 00:12:51,299 actually like it. 460 00:12:51,300 --> 00:12:52,619 That can happen too. 461 00:12:52,620 --> 00:12:54,339 Spread the gospel of fishing for 462 00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:55,819 sure for sure. 463 00:12:55,820 --> 00:12:57,499 So a question for you. 464 00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:59,359 Do you have pictures of 465 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,159 yourself where you're not holding a 466 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,029 fish and you're smiling 467 00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:04,369 A few, a few. 468 00:13:04,370 --> 00:13:06,329 Some of those I might be or 469 00:13:06,330 --> 00:13:08,589 might not be sitting behind a deer, 470 00:13:08,590 --> 00:13:09,949 which whether that's the same thing 471 00:13:09,950 --> 00:13:11,809 or not, up to the first, 472 00:13:11,810 --> 00:13:13,469 I do have some but not a ton. 473 00:13:13,470 --> 00:13:14,929 I would say like 90% of the pictures 474 00:13:14,930 --> 00:13:16,889 of myself are either with an 475 00:13:16,890 --> 00:13:17,890 animal or a fish. 476 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:20,569 And that's where your biggest smiles 477 00:13:20,570 --> 00:13:21,039 are going to come. 478 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,019 100% 100% I would say the ones that 479 00:13:23,020 --> 00:13:25,359 don't are like me with family or 480 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,919 me with significant other And it's 481 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,699 just us as people but like just 482 00:13:28,700 --> 00:13:29,599 myself. 483 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,119 I don't have a ton of pictures of 484 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:31,629 just me 485 00:13:31,630 --> 00:13:33,069 Alright, so if you're with a picture 486 00:13:33,070 --> 00:13:34,889 of your girlfriend, are you smiling? 487 00:13:34,890 --> 00:13:35,769 Yeah. 488 00:13:35,770 --> 00:13:37,649 As big as when you're holding a 489 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:38,029 big fish. 490 00:13:38,030 --> 00:13:39,030 Absolutely. 491 00:13:40,190 --> 00:13:40,259 Absolutely. 492 00:13:40,260 --> 00:13:41,709 To prove it. 493 00:13:41,710 --> 00:13:42,809 I could, yeah, I could. 494 00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:46,629 Alright, in 495 00:13:46,630 --> 00:13:48,569 terms of the broader 496 00:13:48,570 --> 00:13:50,609 community, do guys or 497 00:13:50,610 --> 00:13:52,469 girls ever come up to you and ask 498 00:13:52,470 --> 00:13:53,869 like, why do guys put so many fish 499 00:13:53,870 --> 00:13:54,889 picks on there? 500 00:13:54,890 --> 00:13:56,469 What should I worry about if I see 501 00:13:56,470 --> 00:13:57,129 all these? 502 00:13:57,130 --> 00:13:59,229 I've never had anyone ask me that. 503 00:13:59,230 --> 00:14:01,149 I think, I don't know, 504 00:14:01,150 --> 00:14:02,289 it might just be a difference in 505 00:14:02,290 --> 00:14:04,069 guys versus girls. 506 00:14:04,070 --> 00:14:05,829 I think girls maybe are more open, 507 00:14:05,830 --> 00:14:07,369 or more wanting to take pictures of 508 00:14:07,370 --> 00:14:09,149 just themselves doing other things. 509 00:14:09,150 --> 00:14:10,989 At least for me, I'm not a huge 510 00:14:10,990 --> 00:14:12,889 picture person on 511 00:14:12,890 --> 00:14:14,749 other things that are not, 512 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:15,909 oh, I caught this awesome fish, or I 513 00:14:15,910 --> 00:14:17,150 got this awesome deer, or whatever. 514 00:14:18,350 --> 00:14:19,849 But that's not something I've ever 515 00:14:19,850 --> 00:14:21,829 been asked about, so I 516 00:14:21,830 --> 00:14:22,629 don't know for sure. 517 00:14:22,630 --> 00:14:24,449 And I guess that is probably 518 00:14:24,450 --> 00:14:25,729 the truth about a lot of guys, if 519 00:14:25,730 --> 00:14:26,989 that's what they're taking pictures 520 00:14:26,990 --> 00:14:28,829 of then that's going to make up 521 00:14:28,830 --> 00:14:29,969 the most of the pictures they have 522 00:14:29,970 --> 00:14:31,469 if they could say, this is who I am. 523 00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:32,929 Yeah, yeah, I would say so for sure. 524 00:14:32,930 --> 00:14:33,809 And those are the two of the things that 525 00:14:33,810 --> 00:14:34,809 I'm most passionate about. 526 00:14:34,810 --> 00:14:35,969 So just naturally, that's what a lot 527 00:14:35,970 --> 00:14:36,970 of the pictures are gonna entail. 528 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:39,759 Can I get you to say and spell your 529 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,760 name so I have it correct? 530 00:14:41,830 --> 00:14:43,829 T-Y-L-E-R Tyler, 531 00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:45,749 and then H-O-F-F M-A-N Hoffman. 532 00:14:45,750 --> 00:14:47,189 All right, and what is your title 533 00:14:47,190 --> 00:14:47,939 here? 534 00:14:47,940 --> 00:14:49,019 I'm a fisheries technician. 535 00:14:49,020 --> 00:14:50,339 Fisheries technician. 536 00:14:50,340 --> 00:14:51,940 So indeed, you want to show us? 537 00:15:01,390 --> 00:15:02,169 There we go. 538 00:15:02,170 --> 00:15:03,959 All right, reach for the camera. 539 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,220 Back up a little bit for me. 540 00:15:08,010 --> 00:15:09,589 And so when's that from? 541 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:10,369 Last fall. 542 00:15:10,370 --> 00:15:11,370 Just hold it there. 543 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,659 It's going to be awkward but we're 544 00:15:16,660 --> 00:15:18,539 just going to count to like 10 more 545 00:15:18,540 --> 00:15:20,119 seconds and we'll get a good shot of 546 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,120 it. 547 00:15:23,850 --> 00:15:24,829 Okay, cool, you can bring your phone 548 00:15:24,830 --> 00:15:25,830 down. 549 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:27,959 Thank you so much. 550 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,899 I appreciate it. 551 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:29,900 Of course.