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Everybody's just going

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like this, please hurry,

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come on.

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We are rolling.

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As the nation honors fallen

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service members this Memorial Day

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on Monday, the tourism industry

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marks the start of the summer

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season.

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A bill in the U.S.

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House would re-designate

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the Apostle Islands as Wisconsin's

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first national park.

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The 21 Islands and 12 miles

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of mainland off Lake Superior

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in northern Wisconsin is

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already a national lakeshore.

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Supporters say the designation

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as a national park would boost

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tourism and local economies.

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Republican Congressman Tom Tiffany

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introduced the measure and it passed

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committee this spring.

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But local governments in and around

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Bayfield County and the Red Cliff

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Band of Lake Superior Chippewa

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oppose the redesignation.

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The county and the tribe drafted a

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formal resolution together opposing

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it.

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We asked Bayfield county board chair

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Jan Lee why.

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And thanks very much for being here.

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Thank you for having me.

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So we've done some reporting in

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Bayfield kind of during the

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summer season and the crush of

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tourists can be difficult for

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small businesses there to

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manage. How would a national park

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designation increase those

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crowds?

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Yes, thank you.

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So I think to

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start,

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like you said, the tourism area

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here in Bayfield in particular,

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at the gateway to the Apostle

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Islands, hasn't

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been a problem in the summer times.

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There's never been a a problem with

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not having enough tourists up here

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in the late spring, summer,

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early fall, like basically through

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Apple Fest every first

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weekend of October.

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As a matter of fact, we're pretty

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much bursting at the seams in terms

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of what we can accommodate,

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in terms lodging

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and restaurants.

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And that affects workforce,

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of course.

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And we don't have housing for people

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up here. It's hard to

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have workforce come in that can

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accommodate all these tourists for

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the businesses.

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And I know that Mr. Tiffany has

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touted this re-designation

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as a boon for tourism.

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But we're basically looking

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for tourism in other directions.

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I think as a whole, we've

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done a lot of work over the last 15

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to 20 years, trying to

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create tourism as an industry up

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here, getting people all the way up

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to Northern Wisconsin to enjoy

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Lake Superior and the inland lakes

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that we have.

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And we've a really good job of that.

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But what we've really been trying to

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do is subsequently also is to try to

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do that in the shoulder seasons and

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in the winter to expand tourism in

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those areas.

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And the big problem with Mr.

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Tiffany's bill at this point in time

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is that we

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don't know where the infrastructure

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is gonna come to support it.

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Infrastructure like roads

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and lodging and parking

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uh... But but wouldn't uh...

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Federal park service be responsible

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for that

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a county for our roads, and I mean,

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the highway department for our

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county roads, and County Highway 13

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is what gets you up to Bayfield.

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It runs through Washburn, which is

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also a small city about

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12 miles south of Bayfield, and that

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is also sort of a gateway point to

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the Apostle Islands, as well as

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north of Bayfiel, where the

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Red Cliff Lake Superior Band

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of Ojibwa live about

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two miles north of the Bayfield is

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where the reservation starts.

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And they have treaty rights, of

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course, to the area.

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Another issue that we've

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been sort of trying to address

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is the treaty rights and

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the fact that we

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have invited Mr. Tiffany to come.

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We want to be a part of the dialog.

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We want share our

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concerns and have our questions

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heard.

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But he hasn't come.

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a year and a half ago, we,

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and by that I mean the county board

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and the Red Cliff Tribal Council,

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first heard about Mr. Tiffany's

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bill, or resolution,

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of H.R. 9-1-1.

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Heard about it.

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We found out that the resolution had

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basically already been

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written and was already on its way

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to Washington D.C.

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the county board or the city of

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Bayfield or the tribal council.

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express our concerns or ask our

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questions. And that pretty much

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left us in an area of

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The only option that we have left at

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the federal level is to enact some

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resolution.

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So that's what we did.

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We don't normally like to enact

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negative resolutions.

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We like to work in the positive.

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But this is an instance of where we

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felt that since we hadn't been

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heard or consulted that we really

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didn't have another option.

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What would you be seeking from

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the federal government or the

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federal park service to make

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this thing work?

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I think, first of all, what we've

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never heard is a

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deeper explanation of

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why.

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The National Lakeshore

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designation is already

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a part of

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the national park's programming of

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designation of land matter

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and bodies of water.

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lakeshore, it is

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at one of the highest, if not

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the highest level of protection.

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Because it is a wild area,

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it's a wilderness area.

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small communities on the shoreline,

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the lake itself and the islands are

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subject to very dramatic weather

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shifts and very cold water

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that, as

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we know, if anybody who knows this

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area knows, has been responsible

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for hundreds of deaths,

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either in ships or boats or

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people out kayaking or canoeing

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who aren't familiar with

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how unpredictable this...

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actually more of an inland sea,

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how quickly the weather can change,

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how cold the water is, and how

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prepared and knowledgeable you have

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to be in order to embark

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on it.

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So that's one of our concerns,

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is just the safety

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of it, of it all as well.

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Well, we will watch this

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bill as it moves through

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and prepare to visit

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and do some field reporting up

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there.

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I'd love to have you come up.

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Take a look, enjoy the area.

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All right, Jan Lee from Bayfield

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County. Thanks very much.

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Thank you.

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That was great.

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I didn't consider that

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piece about the safety

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of it, because obviously you're

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absolutely right.

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besides the county, the other county

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responsibility is EMS.

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So if you can somehow in your future

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visits or arguments about it,

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we are, we just,

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and it's not a failure

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of the people here, because

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we've run on a volunteer EMS system,

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because our Bayfield County, many

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people don't know, is the second

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largest county and the most rural.

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We only have 16,000 people here.

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responsible for providing emergency

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excuse me, we have to, you know,

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raise our levy. We have to raise the

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taxes. We have do something to be,

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it's a responsibility, statutorily,

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that we have do and we

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want to do and are required to do,

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and it's the responsible thing to

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demographic to older and older

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aging out of the workforce, and more

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are coming in, retirement age.

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housing issue to get more working

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families in and also to increase the

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workforce to help with more tourism.

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is EMS because

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our volunteers are aging out and

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we don't have a county run system.

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expanse of the state,

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we're missing calls.

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having trouble manning our

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EMS. We're already in a...

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they're doing fine, but other

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stations or areas of the county are

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really not.

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one of the major things that we're

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trying to be addressing over the

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next few years with the county board

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here within the next year or two

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is to figure out what kind of

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program we need to implement,

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whether it's a combination of local

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control and the individual stations

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and the county's involvement.

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Because right now it's been solely

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local control with individual

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stations and volunteers.

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But now we need to really, you know,

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ante up and we have to figure out

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how we can get from a failed system

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to a functioning

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responsive 100

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percent of time BMS system.

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So that's a big concern of mine

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personally. That's my own personal

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take. I'm not on record as a board

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member necessarily, But on

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behalf of the board.

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The resolution that we passed two

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of them now in 24

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and 26, 25 and 26.

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And they both passed by significant

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majority,

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you know, 11 to 2 or something like

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that. So we, and

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as well as working with the tribal

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council on this

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as our very respected

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neighbors.

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So that's those are our concerns.

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That is super interesting.

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We have a new

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project, well

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it's not really a project, but we

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have a a new emphasis on rural

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reporting with a

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Wisconsin Public Radio reporter and

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a designated PBS Wisconsin

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reporter and videographer.

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And the story, the issue

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you just talked about

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Bayfield County and EMS is.

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Uh... Right in that wheelhouse so

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expect a call on

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that madam chair

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Well, we're pretty overrun at

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the moment with trying

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to figure out. We're heading into

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budget season.

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So we're trying to work with

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our EMS.

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We knew how we knew for the first

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time in the state.

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This is news.

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I mean, you may have heard of this

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already, but we as I know, you

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probably have to get going.

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But Bayfield County and Ashland

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County are the first

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we are the first

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counties to collaborate and

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combine our dispatch service.

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And we just started that last

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year. So, we're still

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transitioning and making that work.

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The transition has happened.

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It's going.

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Ashland and Maple County are

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functioning out of one dispatch

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center.

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But of course, connected to that is

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this EMS situation.

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So that's the next sort of piece

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that we really have to try

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to solve.

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So yeah, so I don't know

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if immediately is a

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great opportunity for option for

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us, but I think because people are

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pretty consumed right

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now and busy with trying to figure

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out solutions.

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But yeah, anytime you could talk to

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Megan, Megan Kwanderer

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is our dispatch coordinator

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for Bayfield County and

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EMS.

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And I could, you know, we could

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reach out to her and suggest that

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I mentioned her and.

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I would be happy to make a

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connection if you'd like.

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Well, thank you. No, super

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interesting. Really appreciate the

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information.

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And thank you for all you do.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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You too! Happy Memorial Day weekend!

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Thank you.

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